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THE PEOPLE WITH HOLES IN THEIR HEADS

Amanda Feilding lives in a charming flat looking over London's
river with her companion, Joey Mellen, and their infant son, Rock.
She is a successful painter, and she and Joey have an art gallery
in a fashionable street of the King's Road. Another of her talents
is for politics. At the last two General Elections she stood for
Parliament in Chelsea, more than doubling her vote on the second
occasion from 49 to 139. It does not sound much, but the cause
for which she stands is unfamiliar and lacks obvious appeal.
Feilding and her voters demand that trepanning operations be made
freely available on the National Health. Trepanation means cutting
a hole in your skull.

The founder of the trepanation movement is a Dutch savant, Dr
Bart Hughes. In 1962 he made a discovery which his followers proclaim
as the most significant in modern times. One's state and degree of
consciousness, he realized, are related to the volume of blood in
the brain. According to his theory of evolution, the adoption of
an upright stance brought certain benefits to the human race, but
it caused the flow of blood through the head to be limited by
gravity, thus reducing the range of human consciousness. Certain
parts of the brain ceased or reduced their functions while others,
particularly those parts relating to speech and reasoning, became
emphasized in compensation. One can redress the balance by a number
of methods, such as standing on one's head, jumping from a hot bath
into a cold one, or the use of drugs; but the wider consciousness
thus obtained is only temporary. Bart Hughes shared the common goal
of mystics and poets in all ages: he wanted to achieve permanently
the higher level of vision, which he associated with an increased
volume of blood in the capillaries of the brain.

The higher state of mind he sought was that of childhood. Babies
are born with skulls unsealed, and it is not until one is an adult
that the bony carapace is formed which completely encloses the
membranes surrounding the brain and inhibits their pulsations in
repsonse to heart-beats. In consequence, the adult loses touch with
the dreams, imagination and intense perceptions of the child.  His
mental balance becomes upset by egoism and neuroses. To cure these
problems, first in himself and then for the whole world, Dr Huges
returned his cranium to something like the condition of infancy by
cutting out a small disc of bone with an electric drill.  Experiencing
immediate beneficial effects from this operation, he began preaching
to anyone who would listen to the doctrine of trepanation. By
liberating his brain from its total imprisonment in his skull, he
claimed to have restored its pulsations, increased the volume of
blood in it and acquired a more complete, satisfying state of
consciousness than grown-up people normally enjoy. The medical and
legal authorities reacted to Huges's discovery with horror and
rewarded him with a spell in a Dutch lunatic asylum.

Joseph Mellen met Bart Huges in 1965 in Ibiza and quickly became
his leading, or rather one and only, disciple. Years later he wrote
a book called _Bore Hole_, the contents of which are summarized in
its opening sentence: 'This is the story of how I came to drill a
hole in my skull to get permanently high.' ...(a few paragraphs
detail Joseph Mellen's early experiments with LSD, and how he finds
out about Bart Huges.)

The time came when Joey felt he had preached enough and that he
now had to act. He did not agree with Holingshead that the third
eye was merely a figure of speech, believing in its physical
attainment through self-trepanation.  Support for this can be found
in archaeology. Skulls of ancient people all over the world give
evidence that their owners were skillfully trepanned during their
lifetimes, and many of these appear to have been of noble or priestly
castes. The medical practice of trepanation was continued up to
the present century in treatment of madness, the hole in the skull
being seen as a way of relieving pressure on the brain or letting
out the devils that possessed it. By his scientific explanation of
the reasons for the operation, Bart Huges had removed it from the
area of superstition, and Joey Mellen proposed to be the second
person to perform it on himself in the interest of enlightenment.

Bart had become a close friend of Amanda Feilding, and they went
off to Amsterdam together while Joey took care of Amanda's flat.
This was the opportunity he had been waiting for to bore a hole in
his head.  The most gripping passages in _Bore Hole_ describe his
various attempts to complete the operation. They are also extremely
gruesome, and those who lack medical curiosity would do well to
read no further. Yet to those who might contemplate trepanation
for and by themselves, Joey's experiences are a salutary warning.
It should be empahasized that neither he, Bart nor Amanda has ever
recommended people to follow their example by performing their own
operations. For years they have been looking for doctors who would
understand their theories and would agree to trepan volunteer
patients as a form of therapy Strangely enough, not one member of
the medical profession has been converted.

In a surgical store Joey found a trepan instrument, a kind of auger
or cork- screw designed to be worked by hand. It was much cheaper
and, Joey felt, more sensitive than an electric drill. Its main
feature was a metal spike, surrounded by a ring of saw-teeth.  The
spike was meant to be driven into the skull, holding the trepan
steady until the revolving saw made a groove, after which it could
be retracted. If all went well, the saw-band should remove a disc
of bone and expose the brain.

Joey's first attempt at self-trepanation was a fiasco. He had no
previous medical experience, and the needles he had bought for
administering a local anaesthetic to the crown of his head proved
to be too thin and crumpled up or broke. Next day he obtained some
stouted needles, took a tab of LSD to steady his nerves and set to
in earnest. First he made an incision to the bone, and then applied
the trepan to his bared skull. But the first part of the operation,
driving the spike into the bone, was impossible to accomplish.
Joey described it as like trying to uncork a bottle from the inside.
He realized he needed help and telephoned Bart in Amsterdam, who
promised he would come over and assist at the next operation. This
plan was frustrated by the Home Office, which listed Dr Huges as
an undesirable visitor to Britain and barred his entry.

Amanda agreed to take his place. Soon after her return to London
she helped Joey re-open the wound in his head and, by pressing the
trepan with all her might against his skull, managed to get the
spike to take hold and the saw- teeth to bite. Joey then took over
at cranking the saw. Once again he had swallowed some LSD. After
a long period of sawing, just as he was about to break through, he
suddenly fainted. Amanda called an ambulance and he was taken to
hospital, where horrified doctors told him that he was lucky to be
alive and that if he had drilled a fraction of an inch further he
would have killed himself.

The psychiatrists took a particular interest in his case, and a
group of them arranged to examine him. Before this could be done,
he had to appear in court on a charge of possessing a small amount
of cannabis. The magistrate demanded another psychiatrist's report
and demanded him for a week in prison.

There followed a period of embarrassment as the rumour went round
London that Joey Mellen had trepanned himself, whereas in fact he
had failed to do so.  As soon as possible, therefore, he prepared
for a third attempt. Proceeding as before, but now with the benefit
of experience, he soon found the groove from the previous operation
and began to saw through the sliver of bone separating him from
enlightenment or, as the doctors had predicted, instant death. What
followed is best quoted from _Bore Hole_.

'After some time there was an ominous sounding schlurp and the
sound of bubbling. I drew the trepan out and the gurgling continued.
It sounded like air bubbles running under the skull as they were
pressed out. I looked at the trepan and there was a bit of bone in
it. At last! On closer inspection I saw that the disc of bone was
much deeper on one side than on the other. Obviously the trepan
had not been straight and had gone through at one point only, then
the piece of bone had snapped off and come out. I was reluctant to
start drilling again for fear of damaging the brain membranes with
the deeper part while I was cutting through the rest or of breaking
off a splinter. If only I had an electric drill it would have been
so much simpler. Amanda was sure I was through. There seemed no
other explanation for the schlurping noises I decided to call it
a day. At the time I thought that any hole would do, no matter what
size. I bandaged up my head and cleared away the mess.'

There was still doubt in his mind as to whether he had really broken
through and, if so, whether the hole was big enough to restore
pulsation to his brain.  The operation had left him with a feeling
of wellbeing, but he realized that it could simply be from relief
at having ended it. To put the matter beyond doubt, he decided to
bore another hole at a new spot just above the hairline, this time
using an electric drill. In the spring of 1970, Amanda was in
America and Joey did the operation alone. He applied the drill to
his forehead, but after half and hour's work the electric cable
burnt out. Once again he was frustrated. An engineer in the flat
below him was able to repair the instrument and next day he set
out to finish the job. 'This time I was not in any doubt.  The
drill head went at least an inch deep through the hole. A great
gush of blood followed my withdrawal of the drill. In the mirror
I could see the blood in the hole rising and falling with the
pulsation of the brain.'

The result was all he had hoped for. During the next four hours he
felt his spirits rising higher until he reached a state of freedom
and serenity which he claims, has been with him ever since.

For some time now he had been sharing a flat with Amanda, and when
she came back from America she immediately noticed the change in
him. This encouraged her to join him on the mental plane by doing
her own trepanation. The operation was carefully recorded. She had
obtained a cine-camera, and Joey stood by, filming, as she attacked
her head with an electric drill. The film shows her carefully at
work, dressed in a blood-spattered white robe. She shaves her head,
makes an incision in her head with a scalpel and calmly starts
drilling. Blood spurts as she penetrates the skull. She lays aside
the drill and with a triumphant smile advances towards Joey and
the camera.  Ever since, Joey and amanda have lived and worked
together in harmony. From the business of buying old prints to
colour and resell, they have progressed to ownership of the Pigeonhole
Gallery and seem reasonably prosperous. They have also started a
family.  There is nothing apparently abnormal about them, and many
of their old friends agree in finding them even more pleasant and
contented since their operations. There is plenty of leisure in
their lives, mingled with the kind of activities they most enjoy.
These of course include talking and writing about trepanation. They
have lectured widely in Europe and America to groups of doctors
and other interested people, showing the film of Amanda's
self-operation, entitled _Heartbeat in the Brain_. It is generally
received with awe, the sight of blood often causing people to faint.
At one showing in London a film critic described the audience
'dropping off their seats one by one like ripe plums'. Yet it was
not designed to be gruesome.  The soundtrack is of soothing music,
and the surgical scenes alternate with some delightful motion
studies of Amanda's pet pigeon, Birdie, as a symbol of peace and
wisdom."

Bill jacobs
I've got seven holes in my skull.
_______________________________________________________________________
William Jacobs    | Someday we'll look back on all this
Astronomy Dept., San Diego State and plow into a parked car.
bjacobs@ucssun1.sdsu.edu



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 The Little Garden -- admin@admin.tlg.rg.net -- S.F. Bay Area Internetwork


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Wow!

Josh found a flyer a few weeks ago that read:

		1993 anti-christmas SPECTACULAR!
			   featuring
       LA performance diva and splatter performance legend

                          JOHANNA WENT

                    international noise combo 
                          POO POO BOMB
                 with MATTHEW & REJOICE! PIBLOKTO!
                    and special guest: RODNEY

                  HORROR! NOISE! MESS! RELIGION!

                At the Purple Onion, north beach, etc
                    10 pm Friday, December 17th
                                $5

The Purple Onion is an ancient 50's jazz club or something, actually
a really neat place; a small stage, with booths and tables around
it, and a dance floor in front of the stage. Bar (beer & wine) in
one corner.  It's in a basement. Very cozy.

Piblokto opened. 1982 new wave! Guitarist in a bunny suit, bass
player wrapped in wrapping paper (ribbons and all), woman drummer,
and woman singer in a sheer brown "doe" costume. She was actually
better than her band, which was rather uninspired in spite of the
costumes. But it really sounded like the B side of some 7" punk
single you'd find fallen down inside the wall of some South of
Market warehouse.

Matthew and Rejoice were two guys in waiter/religious proseletyzer
drag (black pants and shoes, white shirt, slicked back hair,
restrained and overly cheerful demeanor, little gold crosses) who
did umm, basically one of those Jee-zus gosh-golly stage shows.
They went through the audience handing out Chick comics ("THE
ANGELS") and giving sincere handshakes.

Back on stage, they lip-synced to religous theme songs (sung by
children...), gushed about Jesus said to Timothy... then couldn't
find their place in the bible... Break out into song (Matthew
stepping to the front of the stage to lip-sync the solos by the
little religious chilredn on the tape), making numerous references
to "lifestyle" blather and normalcy and such, occasionally pointing
to Josh and me (the two fags in the place), but never getting in
the slightest mean. They didn't drop character the whole time. It
was very sick and very funny.

Then this woman comes out. She looked like her older sister was
Exine Cervenka, and Greta S. her younger sister. Black strech
tights, top and skirt, think reddish hair with bangs made her face
seem small. An amazing sound track behind her, industrial scary
power trance stuff, occasional muffled groans into the mike, she
puts on a series of odd hats, bags over her head. We were both
thinkign and Josh said, gee, this is very Johanna-like, what an
odd choice.

It got weirder and weirder. The music got more intense, and I
noticed the huge boxes of props. Her props became more demented,
and I find it impossible to describe them; they were disturbing
mixes and blurs of obvious and non-obvious things with loaded
meanings. She had a sign board behind her, with words written on
them, that periodically she'd flip over to reveal the next underneath,
that gave a sort of check-point, though usually tangential or
not-yet-expressed, to the...  thing unfolding. She put on a huge
ugly single tit, gnawed at the nipple, which extended into a hideous
black snake, dangling and shaking, she bit off the end and a gross
brownish liquid spread aver her, she rubbed it all over.

It became obvious, oh, this *is* Johanna Went! She looks *so*
totally different that her pictures in INDUSTRIAL CULTURE!

She underwent transformation after transformation, donning funny
and sick costumes. There was some sort of narrative or something
just under the surface, though I wasn unable to make it explicit.

Sex and death and her body and ugliness and giant tampons, mean
men who wanted to fuck her, sticky fluids, four quarts of blood,
pleasure, craziness, it wound up and up, there was a fascination
to it that lrevented you from looking away though that would never
ahd occurred to me. She started off somewhat self conscious, and
goofy, and ended up in a trance, moving about the stage fluidly
but posessed. Her vocal stuff got more distance and scary.

The final scene-thing, she flipped the final board, and it read,
"He wanted to fuck me in the ass, and beat me up, so I KILLED THEM",
she fucked happy boy, the life-size red silky manthing, with a
round flat yellow head with a smiley-face-inspired horror, impaled
on a stand so that it stood at an uncomfortable-looking angle,
after pulling out his stand/pole so he slumped over a table; she
had on a huge, hideous, reptilian penis-thing which she was tuggging,
stroking, and chewing on the end, over and over, the tip got longer
and harder and finally, after chewing the very tip off, it exuded
sticky gunk, and in a frenzy, fucked the slumped-over happy boy,
screaming, "he wanted to fuck me in th eass, and beat me up, SO I
KILLED HIM".

Yeow! So Iraya and I went *immediately* and asked, "can we be your
fans?" and Iraya asked, are you doing other shows in the area, etc,
and Johanna, looking tired, and disassembling some of her props by
putting her foot on one part and yanking with two hands, said no,
this was the only show, she likes to do clubs because they're small,
but she really wants to be able to to her full show (!) and neess
more space. She said she's been sick all year, and hasn't performed
in years (I think she said).

Iraya and I briefly talked about doing a show, the chance I guess
is slim, but not impossible, I mena, we've both been involved in
such things. It would be an amazing thing. We got her phone number,
then she said she was tired, and had to get stuff clean up. Bye!

Wow!

Next was POO POO BOMB. Two tiny tables with junky electronic doodads,
behind each some housey looking person. They noises made were really
elementary, sounding like indulgent art-stoont stuff from... 82.
The "performance" was by "Nurse Poo Poo", and it was pretty silly.
It was deafning too. It was "performance art", ie. boxes of kid's
toys, a scarecrow like thing Nruse hacked up w th a saw, etc. Very
messy. Very bad choice to follow up Johanna with. But it at least
wasn't in the slightest pretentious. In fact, the whole night was
fun and goofy.

I somehow forgot to say how funny Johanna's thing was. I mean, I
laughed thruogh most of it. It was intentionally funny, but almost
no one was laughing. Too bad!


Special Guest never showed, or we were unable to discern him/her from
the background.


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Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 16:14:54 CST
From: ALAN DUNKIN <tk0jut2@mvs.cso.niu.edu>
Subject: File 1--CUMMULATIVE SUBJECT/TOPIC INDEX TO CuDS - Vols 1 to 4

     THE COMPUTER UNDERGROUND DIGEST CUMULATIVE INDEX (VOLS 1-4)

((MODERATORS' NOTE: ALAN DUNKIN compiled the following index of
subjects and names featured in CuD from Volume 1 through Volume 4.  It
was a time-consuming and rather arduous task, and we're certain that
readers share our enthusiasm and gratitude for his efforts.  We've
found the index invaluable in tracking down subject/issues that we
occasionally need.

Alan recently switched his mail address, and he can be contacted
through us for the time being. We'll publish his address in the first
of the year.

Alan is also working on Volume 5. Thank gopod for hard-working
masochists, especially when they share with others. To Alan, a
magnitudinous THANKS!!

+++

This is an index of things, people, handles, events, magazines, places,
events, books, hackers, TV shows, speeches, conventions, search
warrants, phreakers, secret service agents, news prints, and of
cyberspace itself.  Anything mentioned in an issue of the Digest, with
significance, is included in the Index.  For instance, a paper
regarding "Knight Lightning" will be in the Index, but the fact that
he liked UNIX would not go under the UNIX heading.

Catagories which consist of different names have "identifiers", like
BBS, the word "magazine", "convention", or somesuch to aide in
searches.  Books and magazines are surrounded by underscores while
aliases and hacker handles in double quotes.  Where acronyms occur I
have tried to offer a pointer to what the acronym refers to (or alias,
if known).

The Cumulative Index is numbered so like so:

                        ABBBC/DD

                        A - Volume number
                        B - Issue number (taken into account that volume
                                          five may exceed 100 issues)
                        C - Subissue letter (for Alcor issue mainly)
                        D - File number

I look forward to all comments and suggestions about the Index.  In the
future they may reflect how it is presented, with new issues and re-editing
can change it at any time.  There will probably be things that I have
missed or have typed in wrongly.  I am currently available at
tk0jut2@mvs.cso.niu.edu ((temporary address until CuD editors
dig out his new one--eds.)).
Also, please cite examples if you can, sometimes I may have problems
in understanding what you are presenting.

                                                        --- Alan Dunkin
                                                            10/24/93


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90 North BBS                                            343/11
_2600 Magazine_                                         110; 112/5; 215/3;
                                                        307/6; 337/6; 433/1;
                                                        433/3; 433/4; 433/5;
                                                        457/1; 457/2; 457/3;
                                                        457/4; 457/5; 457/6;
                                                        459/2; 464/1
Abene, Mark                                             305/3; 306/4; 337/3;
                                                        430/1; 430/2; 430/3;
                                                        431/1; 432/4; 451/2
"Acid Phreak", see Ladopoulos, Elias
_Activist Times, Inc._                                  112/5; 205/3
"Adrian Vole"                                           212/9
Advanced Network and Services                           205/7; 206/5
Adventure Software Ltd.                                 465/2
Air Force Office of Special Investigations              201/6
AIS, see Automated Information System BBS
Akron Anomaly BBS                                       462/8
Alcor Life Extension Foundation                         104a; 104b; 104c;
                                                        104d; 118/2; 125/3;
                                                        325
Aldrich, Jeffery                                        213/2
Alexander, Kent                                         454/2; 454/3
Aliases, use of                                         100/3; 300/2
Amateur Action BBS                                      409/8; 410/6
America On-Line                                         344/3
American Telephone & Telegraph Company                  117/3; 128/2; 128/3;
                                                        200/3; 201/5; 203/2;
                                                        311/4; 311/5; 312/2;
                                                        322/3; 335/8; 430/6
Ames Research Center                                    462/3
Andrews, Rich                                           110; 203/2; 211;
                                                        421/3
ANS, see Advanced Network and Services
Apple                                                   204/6
_Art of Technology Digest_                              441/2
AT&T, see American Telephone and Telegraph company
Attctc public access UNIX                                   201/5; 203/2; 421/3
Automated Information System BBS                        437/4
_Austin-American Statesman_                             101/3
Barlow, John                                            121/5; 122/6; 123/4;
                                                        318
Bauer, David                                            211
Bechtold, Alan                                          108/4; 118/2
Bell Company Research                                   200/3; 211; 433/1;
                                                        433/3; 433/4; 433/5;
                                                        434/3; 434/5; 435/3;
                                                        436/2
Bellcore, see Bell Company Research
Bell South Telephone Company                            100/4; 100/5; 110;
                                                        115; 116; 124/4;
                                                        125/2; 126/3; 211;
                                                        213/3; 215/3; 216;
                                                        217/3; 217/7; 317/2;
                                                        325; 333/3; 341/3;
                                                        407/2; 435/5; 454/3
Ben-Menashe, Ari                                        404/3; 451/1
Berman, Jerry                                           428/2
Biliographies - Cu Related                              303/4;
                                                        336; 340/5
                                                        422/4
                                                        434/7
Bibliographies - E-Mail Privacy                         344/6
Bibliographies - Codes/Viruses                          465/9
BITNET                                                  123/2
BJS, see Bureau of Justice Statistics
Black Ice BBS                                           216; 317/3
Blanchard, Margaret                                     305/7
Blankenship, Loyd                                       106/3; 110; 101/3;
                                                        211; 421/3
Blumenthal, David                                       410/7; 421/7
_Boardwatch_ magazine                                   331/5
Book Reviews:                                           332/2; 425/5
    CLOAK AND DAGGER (Levy)                             204/6
    COMPUTER ETHICS (Forrester)                         201/7, 308/5
    CUCKOO'S EGG (Stoll)                                106/4, 112/3, 444
    CYBERPUNKS (Hafner and Markoff)                     332/SI
    GRAY AREAS -- 'Zine Review                          465/8
    GURPS (Jackson)                                     126/2
    HACKER CRACKDOWN (Sterling)                         461/SI
    INFORMATION WEB (Gould)                             321/5
    INTERTEK MAGAZINE (Newsbytes Reprint)               409/5
    PRACTICAL UNIX SECURITY (Garfinkel and Spafford)    330/1,2
    PROTECTORS OF PRIVILEGE (Donner)                    321/4
    REVIEW OF SITE SECURITY HANDBOOK                    333/7
    SYSLAW (Rose)                                       467/4,5
    UNDERCOVER (Marx)                                   321/3
    WHOLE INTERNET USER'S GUIDE (Krol)                  462/5,6,7
    ZEN AND THE ART OF THE INTERNET (Kehoe)             438/7,8
Bootleggers                                             103/5
Boykin, Charles                                         203/2
Brazil                                                  449/7
British Tymnet North America Inc.                       430/2; 430/3; 431/1
Brown, Michael                                          437/5
Bua, Nicholas                                           116; 123/4; 124/2
Bulletin Board Systems, General                         103/5; 108/4; 115;
                                                        202/5; 205/4; 211;
                                                        216; 219/3; 219/4;
                                                        300/2; 305/8; 307/6;
                                                        315/2; 330/3; 334/3;
                                                        334/4; 334/5; 334/6;
                                                        334/7; 334/8; 340/4;
                                                        405/1; 405/2; 415/1;
                                                        422/2; 467/4; 467/5;
                                                        467/6
Bulletin Board Systems, Monitoring of                   102/3; 105/4; 118/5;
                                                        201/5; 306/5; 342/2
Bulletin Board Systems, Sting operations                111/3; 302; 462/8
Bureau of Justice Statistics                            446/9
Canada                                                  313/4; 323/1; 343/11;
                                                        423/3; 438/3; 449/8;
                                                        451/3; 452/6; 453/3;
                                                        453/5; 455/3
Canadian Alliance Against Software Theft                343/11
"Cap't Crunch", see Draper, John
Casolaro, Daniel                                        330/4; 331/7; 333/5;
                                                        404/3; 436/8; 436/9;
                                                        451/1
CCC, see Chaos Computer Club
Censorship                                              208/3; 208/4; 209/3;
                                                        209/4; 210/5; 212/5;
                                                        214/5; 305/6
Cellular phones                                         323/4; 324/8; 466/2
CERT, see Computer Emergency Response Team
Chaos Computer Club                                     202/5; 218/4; 305/5;
                                                        327/9; 402/4; 422/4
Chasin, Scott                                           322/1; 324/3; 325;
                                                        454/2; 454/3
_Chicago Tribune_                                       435/9
CitiCorp                                                101/4; 445/5
Cisler, Steve                                           424/4
Clinton, Bill                                           421/6; 443/6; 447/5;
                                                        455/2; 459/5; 465/6
Cloak and Dagger                                        204/6
COCOT, see Customer-Owned Coin-Operated Telephone
Comprehensive Crime Control Act                         109/4
CompuServe Information Service                          343/12; 402/8
_Computer Addiction_                                    344/5
Computer Emergency Response Team                        314/4; 333/7; 437/4;
                                                        448/3; 465/1; 466/6
_Computer Ethics_                                       207/7; 308/5; 328/2;
                                                        328/3
Computer Fraud and Abuse Act of 1984                    100/2
Computer Fraud and Abuse Act of 1986                    116
Computers, Freedom and Privacy Conference               213/4; 306/2; 344/7;
                                                        415/8; 415/9; 418/6;
                                                        427/3
Computer Misuse Act                                     205/7; 209/8
Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility        105/4; 118/5; 122/6;
                                                        201/3; 207/3; 214/3;
                                                        304/4; 313/4; 324/7;
                                                        334/2; 342/2; 342/3;
                                                        411/6; 412/6; 417;
                                                        419/2; 427/4; 427/5;
                                                        432/2; 434/10; 437/8;
                                                        445/4; 449/3; 462/1;
                                                        462/2; 466/1
_Computer Security Basics_                              335/3
Computer Sciences Corporation                           453/8
Computer underground                                    100/1; 111/2; 111/4;
                                                        113/2; 207/5; 215/7;
                                                        300/4; 301; 306/6;
                                                        309/1; 314/3; 435/2
Comsec Data Security                                    322/1; 324/3; 324/4;
                                                        325
Cook, William                                           106/3; 118/4; 124/2;
                                                        125/2; 128/4; 129/6;
                                                        320/4; 326/3; 333/3;
                                                        341/3; 407/2; 421/3
COPS                                                    219/2; 300/5
"Corrupt", see Lee, John
CPSR, see Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility
Credit card fraud                                       109/3; 109/4; 418/8
Cryptography                                            219/2; 315/1; 327/6;
                                                        411/6; 418/6; 429/2;
                                                        432/1; 438/9; 449/7;
                                                        465/9
CSC, see Computer Sciences Corporation
_Cuckoo's Egg, The_                                     106/4; 112/3; 306/6;
                                                        444/1; 444/2; 444/3;
                                                        444/4; 444/5
Cupps, Robert                                           324/3; 325
Customer-Owned Coin-Operated Telephone                  420/1; 422/3
Cyberpunk                                               129/5; 200/4; 323/1;
                                                        324/1; 447/1
_Cyberpunk_                                             332/1; 332/2; 333/3;
                                                        333/4; 333/5; 335/2;
                                                        425/5
Cyberview                                               312/2
Cyberspace                                              329/4; 330/3; 335/10;
                                                        423/3; 446/4; 450/6
Darden, Franklin Jr.                                    123/4; 124/4; 124/5;
                                                        212/3; 213/3; 215/3;
                                                        216; 217/3; 319/2
Dark Side BBS                                           302
Data Encryption Standard                                432/1
Dateline NBC                                            454/2; 454/3
David, Lowell                                           464/1
Davy Jones Locker BBS                                   426/7
DEA, see Drug Enforcement Agency
"Dead Lord", see Fancher, Bruce
Defense Conversion Commission                           449/2
De La Fe, Alfredo                                       430/2; 430/3
Delphi information service                              465/4
Denning, Dorothy                                        207/5; 207/6
Department of Justice                                   204/7; 319/4; 411/4;
                                                        436/7; 436/8; 451/1;
                                                        465/1
DES, see Data Encryption Standard
DiCiccio, Lenny                                         332/3; 332/5
_Difference Engine_                                     335/4
Digital Communications                                  411/4; 411/5; 412/5;
                                                        417; 429/1
Digital Signature Standard                              432/1; 438/9
Digital telephony proposal                              429/1; 445/4; 449/3
"Doc Holiday", see Chasin, Scott
"Doc Savage", see Majette, Baron
DOJ, see Department of Justice
Donner, Frank                                           321/4
Douchette, Leslie Lynn                                  129/6
Download tax                                            334/3; 334/4; 334/5;
                                                        334/6; 334/7; 334/8;
                                                        335/7
Draper, John                                            446/6
"Dr. Ripco", see Esquibel, Bruce
Drug Enforcement Agency                                 213/5; 214/8
DSS, see Digital Signature Standard
E911, see Emergency/Enhanced 911
Earth First!                                            103/4
Edwards, Don,                                           118/5
EFF, see Electronic Frontier Foundation
Effective Performance In Candidates project             213/2
Ek, Brian                                               212/4
Electronic Bill of Rights                               122/6
Electronic Communications Privacy Act                   102/3; 104c; 104d;
                                                        125/3; 304/3; 305/2;
                                                        330/3
Electronic Frontier Foundation                          122/6; 123/4; 124/3;
                                                        128/4; 200/2; 207/4;
                                                        209/5; 210/3; 210/4;
                                                        217/3; 307/4; 307/4;
                                                        310/4; 310/5; 315/3;
                                                        318; 319/4; 320/6;
                                                        343/2; 414/3; 421/3;
                                                        428/2; 432/3; 437/7;
                                                        443/5; 446/5; 466/4;
                                                        466/5
Electronic Mail                                         100/4; 104a; 104b;
                                                        104c; 104d; 115
                                                        204/7; 211; 214/6;
                                                        326/6; 329/5; 333/4;
                                                        344/3
Elephant public access UNIX                             421/3
ELINT/CE                                                103/2
Emergency/Enhanced 911                                  100/4; 100/5; 103/6;
                                                        107/2; 110; 115;
                                                        116; 119; 120;
                                                        124/2; 125/2; 211;
                                                        216; 217/3; 341/3;
                                                        407/2; 451/3
Encryption, see Cryptography
EPIC, see Effective Performance In Candidates project
"Erik Bloodaxe", see Goggans, Chris
Esquibel, Bruce                                         109/1; 126/4; 127/3;
                                                        202/3; 302; 311/1;
                                                        314/3; 434/8; 437/2;
                                                        437/3
Event Horizons BBS                                      426/5
_Exporting the First Amendment_                         305/7
Fancher, Bruce                                          451/3
05/4;
                                                        201/3; 204/3; 204/6;
                                                        214/3; 306/5; 321/4;
                                                        323/2; 344/3; 411/4;
                                                        412/5; 416/3; 416/4;
                                                        429/2; 439/2; 445/4;
                                                        446/5;  449/3; 457/1
Federal Communications Commission                       305/6
Federal High-Performance Computing Act                  205/7
Federal Whistleblower BBS, The                          413/4
Federal Wiretapping Law of 1968                         102/3
Ferguson, Thomas                                        432/5
Fernandez, Julio                                        430/1; 430/2; 430/3;
                                                        431/1; 432/4; 451/2
Ferrell, Michael                                        300/6
"Ferret"                                                117/6
Figallo, Cliff                                          110; 432/3; 443/5
File Transfer Protocol                                  123/2
Films                                                   307/5
"Flash", see Kong, Albert
Foley, Timothy                                          125/2; 200/3; 201/5;
                                                        203/2; 211; 311/1;
                                                        315/3; 322/3; 326/3;
                                                        339/2; 341/3; 401/2;
                                                        421/3
_Forbes_ magazine                                       466/7
Forrester, Owen                                         213/3
Forrester, Tom                                          328/3; 328/4
Fox Television                                          309/1; 321/6
Freedom of Information Act                              105/4; 201/3; 339/3;
                                                        342/2; 402/9; 412/6;
                                                        415/5; 417
_Freaker's Bureau Incorporated_                         333/6
Freriks, R. David                                       467/2
FTP, see File Transfer Protocol
_Full Disclosure_                                       302
Gallaway, Jim                                           204/5
GAO, see General Accounting Office
Garbage Dump BBS, The                                   438/2
GateKeeper Telecommunications Systems, Inc.             323/4
Gateway/WINDO                                           446/7; 446/8; 447/2
General Accounting Office                               103/3; 204/7
"Genesis"                                               406/1
GEnie                                                   318
Gibson, William                                         447/1
Gleason, William                                        216
Goggans, Chris                                          106/3; 110; 211;
                                                        324/3; 325; 421/3
Golden, Barbara                                         200/3; 211; 315/3;
                                                        401/2; 421/4
Goldman, Stuart                                         307/3; 309/1; 310/2;
                                                        314/3; 321/6
Goldstein, Emmanuel                                     110; 307/6; 337/3;
                                                        337/6
Gould, Carol                                            321/5
Grant, Adam                                             123/4; 124/4; 124/5;
                                                        212/3; 213/3; 215/3;
                                                        216; 217/3; 319/2;
                                                        454/2; 454/3
_Gray Areas_                                            465/8
GTE                                                     108/4; 420/1
_GURPS Cyberpunk_                                       113/5; 126/2; 127/4;
                                                        202/5; 209/5; 320/4
_Hacker Crackdown_                                      447/1; 461/1; 461/2;
                                                        461/3; 461/4; 461/5
_Hacker Files, The_                                     438/6
Hackers                                                 100/4; 103/3; 106/4
                                                        112/3; 116; 119;
                                                        121/2; 126/2; 201/4;
                                                        206/4; 207/5; 207/6;
                                                        209/7; 209/8; 210/9;
                                                        211; 212/2; 212/9;
                                                        213/5; 214/4; 214/8;
                                                        215/6; 217/2; 217/6;
                                                        217/7; 218/3; 218/5;
                                                        303/2; 305/5; 306/6;
                                                        311/2; 315/2; 319/4;
                                                        320/5; 323/1; 323/3;
                                                        326/4; 327/10; 328/3;
                                                        328/4; 337/2; 337/3;
                                                        337/5; 343/10; 402/4;
                                                        411/7; 415/9; 417;
                                                        418/1; 418/8; 419/1;
                                                        422/4; 433/6; 438/6;
                                                        447/3; 453/4; 454/2;
                                                        454/3; 466/7
"HackRat"                                               457/3
Hafner, Katie                                           332/2; 425/5
Handles, see Aliases
Haugh, John                                             421/3
Hay, Penny                                              212/4
Henson, H. Keith                                        104a; 104b; 104c;
                                                        104d; 311/5; 325
HoHoCon convention                                      440/4; 445/1; 445/2;
                                                        456/3; 464/2; 464/4
"Hollywood Hacker", see Goldman, Stuart
Hopson, Ron                                             313/4; 315/2
HR 1400                                                 324/6
HR 2772                                                 446/7; 446/8
HR 3459                                                 442/5
HR 3515                                                 413/3
HR 5096                                                 435/5
HR 5983                                                 447/2
Huebner, Hans                                           332/1; 332/2; 332/3;
                                                        332/5
Illuminati BBS                                          110; 126/2; 319/4;
                                                        421/3
Imhoff, James                                           305/8
Incident tracking and vulnerability reporting database  448/3
_Informatik_                                            338/6
_Information Web, The_                                  321/5
Ingraham, Don                                           337/1; 337/2; 337/3;
                                                        338/3; 338/4
"Inhuman"                                               457/3
Inslaw, Inc.                                            319/4; 330/4; 331/7;
                                                        333/5; 404/3; 436/7;
                                                        436/8; 436/9; 445/5;
                                                        451/1; 452/2
Interactive Systems Corporation                         209/2
Internal Revenue Service                                437/6
International Information Retrieval Guild               214/4
Internet Society                                        418/2
Internet worm                                           107/2; 123/4; 202/5;
                                                        218/3
_Intertek_ magazine                                     409/5
IRS, see Internal Revenue Service
Izenberg, Bob                                           421/3
Johnson, Al                                             457/1; 457/5; 457/6;
                                                        457/7; 459/2; 464/1
Jolnet public access UNIX                               110; 115; 211;
                                                        421/4
Kapor, Mitch                                            113/4; 121/5; 122/6;
                                                        123/4; 204/6; 318
Kehoe, Brendan                                          438/7; 438/8
Kenadek, Richard                                        426/7
Kennedy, Bill                                           421/3
Kent, Dora                                              104a; 325
Kermit                                                  211
Keystroke monitoring                                    465/1; 466/6
Killer, see Attctc
Kluepfel, Henry                                         211; 315/3; 421/3;
                                                        421/4; 422/1; 434/5
"Knight Lightning", see Neidorf, Craig
Kong, Albert                                            306/4
Krol, Ed                                                439/4; 462/5
Kroupa, Patrick                                         451/3
Kuykendall, Bill                                        110
Ladopoulos, Elias                                       305/3; 306/4; 430/1;
                                                        430/2; 430/3; 431/1;
                                                        432/4; 451/2
Landsat                                                 419/4
Lauffenburger, Michael                                  406/3
Laws, California                                        117/5; 204/4; 406/5;
                                                        408/4; 418/4
Laws, Finland                                           335/6
Laws, General                                           215/5; 330/3
Laws, United Kingdom                                    102/2; 128/4; 205/7
Lawsuits                                                125/4; 204/7; 304/4
Lee, John                                               430/1; 430/2; 430/3;
                                                        431/1; 432/4; 451/2
Leemah Datacom Security Corporation                     205/7; 300/2; 303/2
Legion of Doom                                          100/2; 100/4; 100/5;
                                                        101/3; 101/4; 102/1;
                                                        106/3; 110; 113/3;
                                                        115; 116; 117/3;
                                                        117/4; 119; 123/4;
                                                        124/4; 126/2; 128/3;
                                                        129/6; 202/5; 211;
                                                        216; 310/4; 312/3;
                                                        317/4; 322/1; 324/3;
                                                        325; 341/3; 407/2;
                                                        421/4; 451/3; 452/6;
                                                        453/3
Lehrer, Mark                                            462/8
Levy, Steven                                            204/6
Lewis, John                                             203/2
"Lex Luthor"                                            452/6
"Lithium Bandit"                                        457/3
_LIttle Black Book of Computer Viruses_                 455/1
LoD, see Legion of Doom
"Lord Digital", see Kroupa, Patrick
Luce, Doug                                              457/3
Ludwig, Mark                                            455/1
Luke, Ed                                                206/3
Majette, Baron                                          311/3; 326/5
"Malefactor", see Shulman, Kenyon
Markoff, John                                           332/2; 332/5
Marrou, Andre                                           315/2
MARS BBS                                                206/3; 208/4
Marx, Gary                                              321/3
Masters of Destruction, see Masters of Disasters
Masters of Disasters                                    200/5; 430/1; 430/2;
                                                        430/3; 431/1; 431/2
                                                        432/4; 433/7; 433/8;
                                                        451/2
"Maverick", see Maverick, Scott
Maverick, Scott                                         451/3; 452/6; 453/3
McCarthy, Timothy                                       311/4
McDonnell, Patrick                                      100/5
McMenamin, Brigid                                       466/7
_Media Information Australia_                           429/5
Meeks, Brock                                            457/1; 457/6; 457/7
Meyer, Gordon                                           339/3
Michigan Bell Telephone                                 219/4; 305/8
Michigan Telecommunications Act                         307/6
Microbec                                                438/3
_Microtimes_                                            306/2
Mindvox public access UNIX                              441/1
Minitele                                                214/6
Mitnick, Kevin                                          300/6; 303/4; 332/1;
                                                        332/2; 332/3; 332/5;
                                                        335/2
MoD, see Masters of Disasters
Modem User's Association of America                     108/4; 118/2; 128/4
_Mondo 2000_                                            314/6
Morris, Robert                                          107/2; 108/3; 123/4;
                                                        129/5; 129/6; 202/5;
                                                        216; 217/3; 317/5;
                                                        319/2; 332/1; 332/2;
                                                        332/3; 332/5; 344/4
MUAA, see Modem User's Association of America
"Multiplexer"                                           418/9
NASA, see National Aeronautics and Space Administration
National Aeronautics and Space Administration           103/3; 329/5; 333/3;
                                                        343/9; 343/13; 414/9;
                                                        462/3
National Computer Security Conference                   207/5; 207/6
National Institute of Standards and Technology          118/2; 325; 429/2;
                                                        432/1; 438/9
National Research and Education Network                 329/2; 331/6; 433/10;
                                                        434/10; 448/2
National Science Foundation                             206/3; 208/4; 209/4;
                                                        321/2
National Security Agency                                201/6; 429/2; 432/1;
                                                        433/8; 438/9
National Security Associates, Inc.                      319/4
"Necron 99", see Grant, Adam
Neidorf, Craig                                          100/4; 100/5; 103/6
                                                        110; 114/3; 115;
                                                        116; 118/4; 121/5;
                                                        122/6; 123/1; 124/2;
                                                        124/3; 124/5; 126/3;
                                                        128/1; 128/4; 129/6;
                                                        200/3; 202/5; 211;
                                                        213/3; 217/3; 218/2;
                                                        302; 309/2; 314/3;
                                                        337/1; 337/2; 337/3;
                                                        338/3; 338/4; 340/2;
                                                        341/3; 401/2; 407/2;
                                                        421/3; 421/4; 421/5;
                                                        457/3
Nemeth, Gary                                            315/2
Newlin, Reed                                            211
_Network Information Access_                            306/2
_Neuromancer_                                           447/1
New York Telephone company                              427/7; 431/1
NIA, see Network Information Access
Norman, Neal                                            323/4
"NotSoHumble Babe"                                      406/1
_Now it can be Told_                                    337/1; 337/2; 337/3;
                                                        337/5; 338/3; 338/4
NREN, see Nation Research and Education Network
NSA, see National Security Agency
NSF, see National Science Foundation
NuPrometheus League                                     204/3; 204/6; 205/5
Ochoa, Enedina                                          437/6
Operation Sun Devil                                     109/3; 109/4; 109/5;
                                                        110; 113/2; 114/2;
                                                        114/5; 117/2; 126/4;
                                                        202/2; 202/5; 204/3;
                                                        204/6; 206/3; 218/2;
                                                        302; 310/4; 310/5;
                                                        311/3; 312/3; 314/3;
                                                        319/4; 320/4; 325;
                                                        334/2; 412/6; 419/2;
                                                        421/3; 437/2;
                                                        453/3
Orange County Transportation Authority                  454/4
Oregon Public Utility Commission                        405/1; 405/2; 406/4;
                                                        408/3
OSI, see Air Force Office of Special Investigations
"Outlaw", see Fernandez, Julio
Pacific Bell telephone company                          436/5; 436/6; 437/1;
                                                        437/8
Packet BBSs                                             305/6
Paperwork Reduction Act                                 404/4; 404/5; 404/6
Pedophilia                                              415/7
"Pengo", see Huebner, Hans
Pentagon City Mall                                      457/1; 457/2; 457/3;
                                                        457/4; 457/5; 457/6;
                                                        457/7; 464/1; 465/10;
_Phantasy_                                              214/4
Phantom Access BBS                                      451/3
"Phiber Optik", see Abene, Mark
Phoenix Project BBS, The                                110; 118/4; 211;
                                                        317/5; 407/2; 421/3;
                                                        422/1; 434/5
_Phrack Inc._ Newsletter                                100/4; 100/5; 110;
                                                        112/5; 114/4; 115;
                                                        116; 119; 120;
                                                        123/3; 125/2; 127/3;
                                                        128/4; 202/5; 211;
                                                        212/1; 309/2; 326/3;
                                                        341/3; 407/2; 421/3
Physician Computer Network Inc.                         418/3
Pilgrim, Mark                                           421/7
Pinz, Ronald                                            455/4
Pioneer awards                                          414/3; 466/4
Piracy, see software piracy
Playboy  Enterprises                                    426/5
Pluchino, David                                         453/3
Point, The                                              110
Pornography                                             344/3; 401/4; 409/8;
                                                        410/6
Poulsen, Kevin                                          320/2
Povich, Murray                                          314/5
PRA, see Paperwork Reduction Act
_Practical UNIX Security_                               330/1; 330/2; 333/9;
                                                        335/5
Privacy Protection Act of 1980                          401/2
Prodigy                                                 208/3; 209/4; 212/4;
                                                        214/6; 303/2; 313/4;
                                                        316/2; 316/3; 316/4;
                                                        316/5; 316/6; 319/2;
                                                        320/7; 343/12
Project Hermes                                          118/2
PROMIS                                                  436/8; 451/1
_Protectors of Privilege_                               321/4
PumpCon convention                                      455/4; 460/1
"Quintin"                                               454/2; 454/3
Raphaelson, Ira                                         100/5
Rheingold, Howard                                       423/7
Riconosciuto, Michael                                   404/3
Riggs, Robert                                           100/4; 100/5; 103/6;
                                                        115; 116; 123/4;
                                                        124/4; 124/5; 125/2;
                                                        128/4; 211; 212/3;
                                                        213/3; 215/3; 216;
                                                        217/3; 317/3; 319/2;
                                                        341/3; 407/2; 421/4
Ripco BBS                                               109/1; 111/4; 126/4;
                                                        127/3; 202/3; 302;
                                                        314/3; 437/2; 437/3;
                                                        438/1
Rivera, Geraldo                                         337/1; 337/2; 337/3;
                                                        338/3; 338/4
"Robert Johnson", see Riggs, Robert
Roberts, Glen                                           302
Rose, Leonard                                           112/4; 113/3; 126/1;
                                                        128/2; 128/3; 200/3;
                                                        202/5; 203/2; 209/2;
                                                        210/2; 214/2; 215/2;
                                                        310/3; 310/4; 310/5;
                                                        311/2; 311/4; 312/2;
                                                        313/2; 313/3; 314/2;
                                                        314/3; 319/2; 321/7;
                                                        322/3; 326/3; 339/2;
                                                        339/4; 340/5; 413/2;
                                                        421/3; 421/4; 434/6;
                                                        466/7
Rosenfeld, Morton                                       430/2; 430/3
Ross Perot for President BBS                            420/3
Rothman, Herb                                           212/4
Rpp386 computer system                                  421/3
S.266                                                   327/6
S.516                                                   340/6
S.893                                                   447/4; 450/2; 450/3;
                                                        453/9
S.1543                                                  210/4
S.1929                                                  402/9
S.1940                                                  402/9; 415/5
S.2112                                                  413/3
S.2476                                                  201/2
S.2813                                                  427/6; 446/7; 446/8
Salzman, Peter                                          129/6
SB.1447                                                 408/4
"Scarecrow"                                             117/6
SCAT, see Special Computereized Attack Team
Schwartz, John                                          106/3
Scott, Jon                                              454/2; 454/3
"Scorpion", see Stira, Paul
Search and seizure                                      331/4
Search warrant                                          104a; 200/3; 211;
                                                        460/1
Secret Service, see United States Sercret Service
Security                                                210/9; 218/5; 219/2;
                                                        300/5; 304/4; 319/4;
                                                        330/1; 330/2; 333/7;
                                                        335/3; 437/4; 442/6;
                                                        448/3; 453/7; 453/8
Sexism                                                  300/3; 300/4; 301;
                                                        303/2
Shadur, Milton                                          129/6
Shergold, Craig                                         423/2
Shif, Zohar                                             453/3
Shotton, Margaret                                       344/5
Shulman, Kenyon                                         324/3; 325; 327/5
Sigman, Randy                                           455/4
Simple Mail Transfer Protocol                           106/5
Simplex locks                                           337/6
SJG, see Steve Jackson Games
Sklar, Robert Matthew                                   107/2
SMTP, see Simple Mail Transfer Protocol
Social Engineering                                      210/9; 314/4; 431/1;
SNEAKERS (movie review)                                 446/6
                                                        454/2; 454/3
Software patents                                        416/1
Software piracy                                         103/5; 105/3; 111/3;
                                                        435/7; 436/10; 436/11;
                                                        436/12; 436/13; 442/7;
                                                        443/2; 443/3; 446/1;
                                                        446/3; 447/4; 449/4;
                                                        450/2; 450/3; 450/4;
                                                        460/6; 460/7; 463/1;
                                                        463/2; 463/3; 467/2
Software Publishers Association                         103/5; 105/3; 109/6;
                                                        117/6; 308/6; 315/2;
                                                        406/2; 426/7; 435/7;
                                                        436/12; 436/13; 442/7;
                                                        443/2; 443/3; 460/7;
                                                        463/1; 463/2; 463/3;
                                                        467/2
Software Rental                                         206/5
South Africa                                            313/4
Southwestern Bell Company                               200/3; 213/5; 219/4;
                                                        303/2; 307/6; 308/2;
                                                        405/2; 430/2; 430/3;
                                                        431/1
Soviet Union                                            201/6
SPA, see Software Publishers Association
Space Physics Analysis Network                          103/3; 107/3
SPAN, see Space Physics Analysis Network
Spafford, Eugene                                        100/2
Special Computerized Attack Team                        323/2
Sprint                                                  108/4
Sterling, Bruce                                         101/3; 415/8; 461/1;
                                                        461/6
Steve Jackson Games                                     100/2; 101/3; 106/3;
                                                        110; 113/5; 122/6;
                                                        123/4; 126/2; 127/4;
                                                        202/5; 209/5; 211;
                                                        213/1; 312/3; 314/3;
                                                        315/3; 318; 319/4;
                                                        320/4; 415/4; 421/3
Stira, Paul                                             305/3; 306/4; 430/1;
                                                        430/2; 430/3; 431/1;
                                                        432/4; 451/2
Stoll, Clifford                                         106/4; 107/3; 112/3;
                                                        306/6; 332/3; 337/3;
                                                        444/1; 444/2; 444/3;
                                                        444/4; 444/5
Stone, Robert                                           324/8
Stratton, Bob                                           457/2
Summercon convention                                    302; 460/1
Swinyard, William Jr.                                   423/6
_SysLaw_                                                449/5; 467/4; 467/5;
                                                        467/6
Taito Software, Inc.                                    107/5
_TAP_                                                   112/5; 126/5; 303/2
"Taran King", see Tishler, Randy
Taxpayer Assets Project                                 442/5
Technophiliacs                                          459/7; 459/8
_Tel Line, The_                                         106/2
_TELECOM Digest_                                        342/3; 410/2
"Terminus", see Rose, Leonard
Texas Public Utilities Commission                       307/6; 308/2
Texas Tech University                                   467/2
Thackeray, Gail                                         202/5; 219/5; 306/2;
                                                        311/3; 323/4; 326/5
"The Dictator"                                          302; 305/4
"The Grim Reaper"                                       406/1
"The Leftist", see Darden, Franklin Jr.
"The Mentor", see Blankenship, Loyd
"The Prophet", see Riggs, Robert
"The Ur-vile", see Grant, Adam
Thomas, Bob                                             409/8; 410/6
Thrifty-Tel                                             319/3; 323/3
Ticer, Scott                                            454/2; 454/3
Title 18 USC 1343                                       118/3; 118/4; 121/2;
                                                        122/5
Title 18 USC 2314                                       123/4
Tisher, Randy                                           211
Toxic Shock                                             207/8;208/2
Trashing                                                216; 454/2
Tripwire integrity-monitor                              455/5
Trojan horse programs                                   113/3; 203/2
TRW Information Services                                107/2; 430/2; 430/3;
                                                        431/1; 437/2; 437/3
Townson, Patrick                                        100/2; 342/3
_Undercover: Police Surveillance in America_            321/3
United Software Alliance                                406/1
United States Long Distance                             420/1
United States Secret Service                            100/2; 106/3; 109/3;
                                                        109/4; 109/5; 110;
                                                        111/4; 112/4; 113/3;
                                                        113/5; 114/2; 117/4;
                                                        117/6; 118/5; 119;
                                                        123/4; 124/2; 125/2;
                                                        126/2; 126/4; 127/3;
                                                        129/6; 200/3; 201/5;
                                                        202/5; 203/2; 204/3;
                                                        204/6; 206/2; 206/3;
                                                        207/6; 209/5; 211;
                                                        216; 302; 305/3;
                                                        309/1; 310/1; 313/4;
                                                        315/3; 319/4; 320/4;
                                                        323/2; 325; 326/3;
                                                        339/2; 339/3; 342/2;
                                                        342/3; 342/4; 407/2;
                                                        412/6; 415/4; 419/2;
                                                        421/3; 421/4; 457/1;
                                                        457/3; 457/5; 457/6;
                                                        464/2; 465/10; 467/2
United States vs. Craig Neidorf                         124/2; 124/3; 125/2;
                                                        341/3; 407/2
Usenet                                                  409/6; 409/7; 410/1;
                                                        410/2; 410/3; 414/4;
                                                        439/5
User Bill of Rights                                     404/2
USLD, see United States Long Distance
USSR, Soviet Union
USSS, see United States Secret Service
US West Communications                                  405/1; 405/2; 406/4;
                                                        408/3
Vajk, Bill                                              302
Variety and Spice BBS                                   219/4; 305/8
Virtual reality                                         423/7
Virus, Christmas                                        206/5; 207/2
Virus, eastern                                          201/6; 217/7; 303/4
Virus, general                                          218/3; 305/5; 409/9;
                                                        437/4; 447/4; 449/1;
                                                        452/3; 452/5; 453/1;
                                                        453/2; 455/1; 456/1;
                                                        459/3; 459/4; 465/7
Virus, MBDFA                                            410/7
Virus, Michelangelo                                     409/9; 449/1
Virus, military                                         129/6; 331/8; 343/8
Virus, western                                          212/9; 219/7; 322/2;
                                                        329/7; 410/7; 465/5
Voice mail                                              212/9
Ward, Grady                                             204/6
Well, The                                               110
White House Conference Library and Information Services 329/2
_Whole Internet User's Guide & Catalog, The_            439/4; 462/5; 462/6;
                                                        462/7
_Windows_ magazine                                      456/5
"Wing"                                                  325
Wittman, Richard                                        343/9; 343/13; 414/9
Woodward, Byron                                         455/4
Wozniak, Steve                                          122/6; 123/4
Wraith of the Black Manta                               107/5
WWIV bulletin board software                            129/2
Xiox                                                    453/7
X-PRESS Informations Services, Ltd.                     424/4; 425/1
"Zeke", see Shif, Zohar
_Zen and the Art of the Internet_                       438/7; 438/8; 439/5
Zenner, Sheldon                                         121/5; 123/4; 124/2;
                                                        125/2; 202/5; 207/7;
                                                        215/2; 407/2
"Zod"                                                   129/6; 200/5; 203/4



END Index

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End of Computer Underground Digest #5.95 / END OF VOLUME 5)
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-- 
 Tom Jennings -- tomj@wps.com -- World Power Systems --  San Francisco, Calif.
 The Little Garden -- admin@admin.tlg.rg.net -- S.F. Bay Area Internetwork

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Subject: People like this should be KILLED
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...and all traces of their existence wiped from every database on the
planet, every phonebook every phone-sex hotline. Maybe through
extreme vigilance we can stamp this kind of thing out!

Probably not. But we can try!!!

*This* is what poison, rabid rats, blow-darts, electrical torture,
and being run over slowly by a truck as your family is forced to
watch, are for! Self defense!

The crime?! Bad taste? Idiocy? Foolishness? No -- the pinheaded
assumption other people want to indulge in this mall-inspired
rubbish.

Happy fucken holydays indeed.




Forwarded message:
> From white@interval.com Mon Dec 20 11:02:46 1993
> Message-Id: <9312201858.AA24545@interval.interval.com>
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 11:00:55 -0800
> To: everyone@interval.com, lubdub@aol.com, MOONUNIT@orange.cc.utexas.edu,
>         pavel@parc.xerox.com, electric@netcom.com (F. Randall Farmer),
>         "frank chen" <frank_chen@go.com>, Diane Li <dli@us.oracle.com>,
>         <dshurman_+p_ATC_+a_HumanNet_+lDaniel_Shurman+r%MHS+d_DACC342C01349D20-DACC342C02349D20%Humanware@mcimail.com>,
>         knutson@itsa.ucsf.EDU (Brian Knutson),
>         Joshua.Loftus@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU, msomol@us.oracle.com,
>         tmeritt@leland.stanford.edu, arnoma01@dons.ac.usfca.edu,
>         rauchway@leland.stanford.edu, johnmcw@violet.berkeley.edu,
>         sunrise@Euphrates.Stanford.EDU, esquivel@Euphrates.Stanford.EDU,
>         jtsherman@aol.com, renosboy@aol.com, rachelc106@aol.com, kjj@tenet.edu,
>         jonathan@casa.stanford.edu, skropf@us.oracle.com, jwishnie@vivid.com,
>         ellen@cs.stanford.edu, ly@cs.stanford.edu, dli@us.oracle.com,
>         chun@mcc.com, srinija@MCC.COM, vemuri@CS.Stanford.EDU,
>         dianazon@leland.stanford.edu, opel@leland.stanford.edu,
>         piggie@leland.stanford.edu, shazam@leland.stanford.edu,
>         goose@leland.stanford.edu, asd-board@Euphrates.Stanford.EDU,
>         pcd-students@Euphrates.Stanford.EDU
> From: white@interval.com (Sean Michael White)
> Subject: Happy Holidays
> Cc: asb@MEDIA-LAB.MEDIA.MIT.EDU, electronic.cafe@pro-palmtree.socal.com,
>         mark@path.net, tomj@fido.wps.com, kathyr@aol.com,
>         ullmer@bigcheese.math.scarolina.edu, hlr@well.sf.ca.us,
>         emma@csli.stanford.edu, HARTFIELD@AppleLink.Apple.COM,
>         75030.1004@CompuServe.COM, claudlee@aol.com,
>         workinger@leland.stanford.edu
> 
> Happy Chanukah,
> merry Christams,
> joyous Kwanza,
> happy New Year,
> and safe passage to you all.
> 
> If I've left you out, you have different needs this season, or even if you
> have everything you need, I wish you hope and fulfillment in the coming
> year. And please remember to have fun!
> 
> With my love,   <--- I can see tears running down your cheek now...;-)
> Sean
> 
> 
> 
> *%\@/*%$%*\@/*%$%*\@/*%$%*\@/*%$%*\^/*%$%*\@/*%$%*\@/*%$%*\@/*%$%*\@/*%*
> *  X   !   X   !   X   !   X   !   .   !   X   !   X   !   X   !   X   *
> *      O       O       O       O  .|.  O       O       O       O       *
> *                                 -*-                                  *
> *   Athbhliain Faoi Mhaise!       '|`           _    Happy New Year!   *
> *   Inpakaramaana Vidumurai!      *:*          ("D     Chag Sameach!   *
> *   Frohliche Weihnachten!       * . *        ~(=r      Boas Festas!   *
> *   Sarbatori Fericite!         **   **    .../__\       Gut Yontif!   *
> *   Joyous Solstice!          *** o   ***     [MJ]       Iyi YIllar!   *
> *   Mele Kalikimake!           *\    O *              Hyvaeae Lomaa!   *
> *   Merry Christmas!          ** \\    **            Wesolych Swiat!   *
> *   Happy Hanukkah!         ***    \\   ***        Stastny Novy Rok!   *
> *   Pari Artsagourt!         * o     \\  *       Kellemes Unnepeket!   *
> *   Shub Naya Baras!        **    O    \\**     Blwyddyn Newydd Dda!   *
> *   Vesele Vanoce!        ***\\       o  \***    Ching Chi Shen Tan!   *
> *   Feliz Navidad!         *   \\  o       *      Felichan Jarfinon!   *
> *   Joyeux Noel!          **  o  \\    O   **       Joy to the World   *
> *   Bom Natal!         ****        \\     o ****      - And to All a   *
> *   God Jul!             ** o     o  \\ o   **           Good Night!   *
> *   Cheers!            ***     O       \\    ***                       *
> *   *:D       o_     *****************************      e@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
> *     _      <' )~      ___      #####  _v_            @@@"""""""""""""*
> *    /<~    ["""] V  o [___] _@_ #####__|~|_ A        @" ___ ___________
> *   %'=    @|HHH|[~] U |\ /|/^^^\##[{}{}{}{](") !    II__[w] | [i] [z] |
> *  %' )   /%|HHH||$|/V\|XXX|~~~~~##[}{}{}{}](:)<*>  {======|_|~~~~~~~~~|
> * %(__6 |==D|HHH||$|\^/|/ \|=====##[{}{}{}{](:) V  /oO--000'"`-OO---OO-'
> ************************************************************************
> 
> I don't know the original creator of this ascii-art but I thought
> it was the closest thing to the season.
> 
> -------
> white@interval.com            "I'm being followed by a moon shadow..."
> 
> 
> 


-- 
 Tom Jennings -- tomj@wps.com -- World Power Systems --  San Francisco, Calif.
 The Little Garden -- admin@admin.tlg.rg.net -- S.F. Bay Area Internetwork

From sciww@ucscb.UCSC.EDU Mon Dec 20 17:32:59 1993
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To: shit-list@fido.wps.com, tomj@wps.com
Subject: Re: People like this should be KILLED

Ooooooh- icky! Tom, that *was* gross. Nasty. It should be taken out back, and
put out of our misery!!! 

Happy Fucken Genocide, --Deke


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Well. You know, we all could reply to Mr White. A nice little message 
like....


Mr. White.

Having recieved your xmas greeting, I would like to take this opprotunity 
to point out that it is this holiday season, the most suicides a year 
occur. I would've been one of them, however, I  decided to happily imursh 
myself in my work. It was working too! Was, until I recived your letter. 

I'm going to slit my wrists now. Thanks for pushing me over the edge.



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In the electronic-universe section of the gopher, I installed a link with 
the Moral Decay mud. I don't realy go for muds, mushes, and so on, 
however this one is both interesting, original, and fun. It's an 
incredible time-waster, but then again, there are times when using your 
brain requires a break. This does the trick. Flesh-bob sez check it out.



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From owner-cypherpunks@toad.com Thu Dec 30 18:43:27 1993
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 93 21:26:34 -0500
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Subject: End of Year E-Zine Listing
Organization: Anarchy for Tentacles

Once again, we find ourselves facing a new jahre and pondering
the untold wonders of the anarchy of cyberspace!

In celebration of this joyous occasion, I've decided to 
post a compilation of electronic 'zines for your perusal.

I especially like the reference for Practical Anarchy and will
probably send a copy of this message to our old chum, Larry
"the squid" Detweiler.

Enjoy,

- Spooge

/---------------- good stuff follows ------------------/


Last updated: 27-Aug-93 by John Labovitz <johnl@netcom.com>

This is a summary of electronically-accessible zines.  The format should 
be fairly self-explanatory.  In most cases, descriptions are excerpted from 
the masthead of the zine listed.

[For those of you not acquainted with the zine world, "zine" is short for 
either "fanzine" or "magazine," depending on your point of view.  Zines are 
generally produced by one person or a small group of people, done mostly for 
fun, and often irreverent, bizarre, and/or esoteric.  Zines are not 
"mainstream" publications -- they generally do not contain advertisements 
(except, sometimes, advertisements for other zines), do not have a large 
subscriber base, and are not produced to make money.]

If you have any additions, deletions, or changes to this list, please email
them to johnl@netcom.com.

I will post this list (and/or changes to the list) to various mailing lists 
and Usenet news groups.  It can also be obtained via anonymous FTP from 
netcom.com as "/pub/johnl/zines/e-zine-list", and via email (either single 
issues or subscriptions) from e-zines-request@netcom.com.

If you publish an e-zine, or know someone who does, please send a copy to 
e-zines@netcom.com and I'll add the relevant info to this database.

All comments, suggestions, changes, deletions, etc., are welcomed and 
encouraged.

        John Labovitz
        johnl@netcom.com

-----

Arm The Spirit
 "Arm The Spirit is a anti-imperialist/autonomist collective that 
  disseminates information about liberation struggles in advanced capitalist 
  countries and in the so-called 'Third World.'  Our focus is on armed 
  struggle and other forms of militant resistance but we do not limit 
  ourselves to this.  In Arm The Spirit you can find news on political 
  prisoners in North America and Europe, information on the struggles of 
  Indigenous peoples in the Americas, communiques from guerrilla groups, 
  debate and discussion on armed struggle and much more. We also attempt 
  to cover anti-colonial national liberation struggles in Kurdistan, 
  Puerto Rico, Euskadi and elsewhere."

  Editor(s): Autonome Forum <aforum@moose.uvm.edu>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Politics/Arm.the.Spirit
     E-Mail: aforum@moose.uvm.edu, subject: "ATS: e-mail request"
     Postal: Arm The Spirit, c/o Wild Seed Press, POB 57584, Jackson Stn.,
               Hamilton, Ontario, L8P 4X3, Canada
             Arm The Spirit, c/o Autonome Forum, POB 1242,
               Burlington, VT 05402-1242, USA
      Phone: +1 416 527 2419 (FAX for Canadian group)


Armadillo Culture
 "Being the excremeditation of a hyperactive armadillo's activities, 
  opinions, and other stuff..."

  Editor(s): Steve Okay <sokay@mitre.org>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Armadillo.Culture
     Postal: Armadillo Culture, 2857 Foxmill Rd. Herndon, VA 22071, USA


ART COM
 "An online magazine forum dedicated to the interface of contemporary art 
  and new communication technologies."

  Editor(s): Carl Eugene Loeffler <artcomtv@well.sf.ca.us>
     Format: ASCII text
     Usenet: alt.artcom
     Postal: ART COM, POB 193123 Rincon, San Francisco, CA 94119-3123, USA
      Phone: +1 415 431 7524 (voice), +1 415 431 7841 (fax)
      Other: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link (WELL): ART COM Electronic Network 
               (ACEN)


BLINK
 "BLINK would like to be a forum for the issues surrounding the intersection
  of consciousness and technology.  This is our best defense against
  postmodern angst: To critically look at and anticipate the cultural and
  social changes spurred by the rapid development of technology."

  Editor(s): Justin Kerr <ratsbats@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>
             Joe Germuska (managing editor)
             Danny Dunlavy (chiphead)
             Jake Eldridge (assistant editor)
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: blink.acns.nwu.edu:/pub/blink
     Gopher: gopher.well.sf.ca.us


Computer Underground Digest
 "An open forum dedicated to sharing information among computerists and 
  to the presentation and debate of diverse views."

  Editor(s): Jim Thomas and Gordon Meyer <TK0JUT2@NIU.BITNET>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: ftp.eff.org:/pub/cud
             etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/CuD/cud
             halcyon.com:/pub/mirror/cud
             aql.gatech.edu;/pub/eff/cud
             ftp.ee.mu.oz.au:/pub/text/CuD (Australia)
             nic.funet.fi:pub/doc/cud (Finland)
             ftp.warwick.ac.uk:pub/cud (United Kingdom)
     Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu
     Postal: Jim Thomas, Department of Sociology, NIU, DeKalb, IL 60115, USA
      Phone: +1 815 753 0303 (voice), +1 815 753 6302 (fax)
     Usenet: comp.society.cu-digest
 CompuServe: DL0 and DL4 of the IBMBBS SIG; DL1 of LAWSIG; DL1 of TELECOM
      Other: GEnie: PF*NPC RT libraries; VIRUS/SECURITY library
             America Online: PC Telecom forum under "computing newsletters"
             Delphi: General Discussion database of the Internet SIG
             PC-EXEC BBS (+1 414 789 4210)
             Rune Stone BBS (IIRG WHQ) (+1 203 832 8441) NUP:Conspiracy
             RIPCO BBS (+1 312 528 5020)
             via Fidonet File Request from 1:11/70
             ComNet in LUXEMBOURG BBS (+352 466893)
             Bits against the Empire BBS (+39 461 980493) (Italy)


Crash
 "A guide to traveling through the underground.  Alternative travel
  stories, hints, and tips."

  Editor(s): John Labovitz <johnl@netcom.com>
             Miles Poindexter
             Nigel French
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: netcom.com:/pub/johnl/zines/crash
     Postal: Crash, 519 Castro #7, San Francisco, CA 94114, USA
  

CTHEORY -- Virtual Review of Books for Post-Modem Theory
 "CTHEORY is a new international, electronic review of books on theory, 
  technology and culture. Reviews are posted monthly of key books in 
  contemporary discourse as well as theorisations of major 'event-scenes' in 
  the mediascape. Editors and contributors include: Kathy Acker, Jean 
  Baudrillard, Bruce Sterling, Arthur and Marilouise Kroker, Deena and 
  Michael Weinstein. CTHEORY will also offer the possibility of interactive 
  discussions among its subscribers in the electronic theory 
  'sim-posium/salon.'"

  Editor(s): <ed22@musica.mcgill>
     Format: ASCII text
     E-Mail: LISTSERV@VM1.MCGILL.CA
               with text body: "SUBSCRIBE CTHEORY <full-name>"


Cyberspace Vanguard
 "News and Views of the Science Fiction and Fantasy Universe"

  Editor(s): TJ Goldstein <tlg4@po.cwru.edu>
             Sarah Alexander, Administrator <aa746@po.cwru.edu>
     Format: ASCII text
     E-Mail: cn577@cleveland.freenet.edu
             Cyberspace Vanguard@1:157/564 (FidoNet)
             CVANGUARD (Delphi)
     Postal: Cyberspace Vanguard, POB 25704, Garfield Heights, OH 44125, USA


Drum
 "Drum is not an isolated event but an ongoing process."

  Editor(s): R. Patrick Jones <dh644@cleveland.Freenet.Edu>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Drum
     Gopher: gopher.well.sf.ca.us


Ego Project
 "This 'zine is a product of me and as such will contain anything I feel 
  like putting in it.  Whatever I feel like putting in it shall include,
  but is not limited too, anything I feel applies to Gothdom in general.   
  Album/single/tape reviews, book and movies reviews, etc. The Sisters of 
  Mercy and the Mission are my main focuses, but since neither of them 
  put out music on anything resembling a frequent basis I imagine other 
  groups will be featured quite frequently."

  Editor(s): Corey Nelson <ieya@byron.u.washington.edu>
     Format: ASCII text
     Gopher: gopher.well.sf.ca.us
     Postal: Ego Project, 1717 Monroe #b, Bellingham, WA 98225, USA


Factsheet Five / Factsheet Five - Electric
 "FactSheet Five is the central clearinghouse of information about zines,
  those opinionated publications with press runs of 50 to 5000 (often done
  through surrepticious use of on-the-job supplies and xerox).  Mike 
  Gunderloy of Rennsalaer, NY published 44 editions of F5.  Hudson Luce 
  published the final issue, #45.  I opened my big mouth (or, rather, let 
  my fingers blab away) about doing an online, net-accessible version of
  FactSheet Five."

  Editor(s): Jerod Pore <jerod23@well.sf.ca.us> (electronic version)
             Seth Friedman <sethf5@well.sf.ca.us> (paper version)
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Factsheet.Five
             nigel.msen.com:/pub/newsletters/F5-E
             src.doc.ic.ac.uk:/literary/newsletters/factsheet-five
     Gopher: gopher.well.sf.ca.us
       WAIS: nigel.msen.com
     Postal: Factsheet Five, 1800 Market St., San Francisco, CA 94102, USA
               (This is for *BOTH* the electronic and paper versions; 
                or for items that can't be delivered to a PO box)
             Seth Friedman, POB 170099, San Francisco, CA 94117-0099, USA
               (This is for the paper version *only*, especially 
                subscriptions)
      Other: The WELL
             BBSes around the world


FUNHOUSE! -- The cyberzine of degenerate pop culture
 "Dedicated to whatever happens to be on my mind at the time I'm writing.  
  The focus will tend to be on those aspects of our fun-filled world which
  aren't given the attention of the bland traditional media, or which have 
  been woefully misinterpreted or misdiagnosed by the same.  FUNHOUSE! is
  basically a happy place, and thus the only real criteria I will try to 
  meet is to refrain from rants, personal attacks, and flames -- and thus 
  FUNHOUSE! is an apolitical place.  Offbeat films, music, literature, and 
  experiences are largely covered, with the one stipulation that articles 
  are attempted to be detailed and well documemnted, although this is no 
  guarantee of completeness or correctness, so that the interested reader 
  may further pursue something which may spark her interest."

  Editor(s): Jeff Dove <jeffdove@well.sf.ca.us>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: netcom.com in /pub/johnl/zines/funhouse


High Weirdness by Email
  random Internet information

  Editor(s): <mporter@nyx.cs.du.edu>
     Format: ASCII text
     Gopher: gopher.well.sf.ca.us


International TeleTimes
 "International Teletimes is a general interest magazine. There are several
  recurring monthly columns but the rest of the content changes from month to
  month as new themes are chosen. The goal of Teletimes is to attract a large
  variety of writers from all over the world so that the readers will be 
  exposed to a great variety of ideas and opinions."

  Editor(s): Ian Wojtowicz <ian@breez.wimsey.com>
     Format: Macintosh Doc-Maker application
        FTP: sumex-aim.stanford.edu:/info-mac/per/teletimes-*.hqx
     Postal: TeleTimes International, 3938 West 30th Ave.,
               Vancouver, BC V6S 1X3, Canada
      Other: OneNet (network of FirstClass BBSes)
  

InterText
 "InterText is a bi-monthly fiction magazine with over 1000 subscribers
  worldwide."

  Editor(s): Jason Snell <intertxt@network.ucsd.edu>
             Geoff Duncan <gaduncan@halcyon.com>
     Format: ASCII text
             PostScript
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/EFF.journals/InterText
 CompuServe: Electronic Frontier Foundation's "Zines from the Net" section, 
               accessible by typing "GO EFFSIG"


Obscure Electronic
 "OBSCURE is the zine that profiles the people in this publishing subculture."

  Editor(s): James P Romenesko <intertxt@network.ucsd.edu>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Obscure.Electric
     Gopher: gopher.well.sf.ca.us
     Postal: POB 1334, Milwaukee, WI 53201, USA


People Power Update
  The newsletter of the bicycle advocacy group "People Power"

  Editor(s): Ron Goodman <goodman@cats.ucsc.edu>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: netcom.com:/pub/johnl/zines/ppu
     Postal: People Power, 226 Jeter Street, Santa Cruz, CA 95060, USA
      Phone: +1 408 425 8851 (voice/fax)


Play by EMail
 "Electronic 'zine about free play-by-electronic-mail wargames.  Reviews, 
  game openings, information."

  Editor(s): Greg Lindahl <gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: ftp.erg.sri.com:/pub/pbm/PBEM-Fanzine
     Gopher: gopher.well.sf.ca.us
     Usenet: rec.games.pbm


Practical Anarchy Online
 "An electronic zine concerning anarchy from a practical point of view, to 
  help you put some anarchy in your everyday life. The anarchy scene is 
  covered through reviews and reports from people in the living anarchy."

  Editor(s): Chuck Munson <cmunson@macc.wisc.edu>
               Bitnet: cmunson@wiscmacc.bitnet
             Mikael Cardell <cardell@lysator.liu.se, 
               Fidonet: Mikael Cardell@2:205/223
     Format: ASCII text
     Gopher: gopher.well.sf.ca.us
     Postal: Practical Anarchy, POB 173, Madison, WI 53701-0173, USA
             Practical Anarchy, c/o Mikael Cardell, Gustav Adolfsgatan 3,
               S-582 20 Linkoping, Sweden


Quanta
 "Quanta is the electronically produced and distributed magazine of science 
  fiction and fantasy.  As such, each issues is packed with fiction from 
  amateur and professional authors from around the world and across the net."

  Editor(s): Daniel K. Appelquist <quanta@andrew.cmu.edu>
     Format: PostScript
             ASCII text
        FTP: export.acs.cmu.edu:/pub/quanta
             ftp.eff.org:/journals/Quanta
             lth.se:/documents/Quanta
             catless.newcastle.ac.uk:/pub/Quanta
     Gopher: gopher-srv.acs.cmu.edu (in the Archives directory)
     Postal: Quanta, 3003 Van Ness St. NW #S919, Washington, DC 20008, USA
 CompuServe: "Zines from  the Net" area of  the EFF forum
               (accessed by typing GO EFFSIG)


Scream Baby
 "What do I want?  Besides world peace, a sexy Mexican maid, and someone to 
  use their fucking brains around here, I want a really good
  all-encompassing-sub-culture zine.  Music, literature, art, television,
  film, weird space-time kinks, events, information, news, humor, interviews,
  and re:views of 'Stuff I Think Is Cool.'  Not all at once, of course.  
  Each issue of Scream Baby will come out whenever I can scrape together 
  25-30 kilobytes of really good stuff."

  Editor(s): Blade X <bladex@bladex@wixer.cactus.org>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/ScreamBaby
             ftp.eff.org:/pub/journals/ScreamBaby
     Postal: Cyberlicious <tm>, POB 4510, Austin, TX 78765 USA
      Other: WWIV: 46@5285


Unplastic News
 "the odd e-mail magazine w/a fever"

  Editor(s): <tibbetts@hsi.hsi.com>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: ftp.eff.org:/pub/cud/misc/journals
             etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/EFF.journals/Unplastic_News
             quartz.rutgers.edu:pub/journals
     Gopher: gopher.well.sf.ca.us


Voices from the Net
 "There are a lot of folks with at least one foot in this complex region we
  call (much too simply) "the net." There are a lot of voices on these wires.
  From IRC to listservs, MUDspace to e-mail, Usenet group to commercial bbs
  -- all kinds of voices -- loud and quiet, anonymous and well-known. And yet,
  it's far from clear what it might mean to be a "voice" from, or on, the
  net. Enter "Voices from the Net": one attempt to sample, explore, the
  possibilities (or perils) of net.voices. Worrying away at the question.
  Running down the meme. Looking/listening, and reporting back to you."

  Editor(s): Bookish <tibbetts@hsi.hsi.com>
             CountZer0 <mgardbe@andy.bgsu.edu>
             NEURO <fbohann@andy.bgsu.edu>
     Format: Macintosh HyperCard stack
             ASCII text
        FTP: sumex-aim.stanford.edu:/info-mac/per/voices-*.hqx
             etext.archive.umich.edu:pub/zines/Voices
     E-Mail: Voices-request@andy.bgsu.edu
               to subscribe:
                 subject: Voices from the Net
                 body: subscribe


Whole Earth Review
 "We are dedicated to demystification, to self-teaching, and to 
  encouraging people to think for themselves.  Thus our motto: 'ACCESS TO
  TOOLS AND IDEAS.'  Tools in the Whole Earth sense include hammers, books, 
  and computer conferencing systems.  Our readers are a community of 
  tool-users who share information with one another.  The ideas we make 
  accessible have not often been found in university courses, but are 
  becoming recognized as part of what you need to know to be truly educated.  
  Our readers contribute to the editorial content as well, with both reviews 
  and articles."

  Editor(s): <>
     Format: ASCII text
             Macintosh PageMaker 4.2 files
     Gopher: gopher.well.sf.ca.us
     E-Mail: wer@well.sf.ca.us
     Postal: Whole Earth Review, 27 Gate Five Road, Sausalito, CA 94965, USA
      Phone: +1 415 332 1716 (voice), +1 415 332 3110 (fax)


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Sites archiving e-zines with FTP:

  ftp.eff.org
  etext.archive.umich.edu
  ftp.cic.net
  quartz.rutgers.edu
  ftp.msen.com
  ftp.halcyon.com
  world.std.com
  netcom.com in /pub/johnl/zines)
  nigel.msen.com in /pub/newsletters
  grind.isca.uiowa.edu (128.255.19.233) in /info/journals

Sites archive e-zines with Gopher:

  gopher.eff.org
  etext.archive.umich.edu
  gopher.cic.net
  gopher.msen.com
  gopher.well.sf.ca.us
  world.std.com
  gopher.unt.edu

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Flesh pulled this from the cypherpunks mailing list. I edited all the
(((((((Forwarded from...)...)...)...)...)...)...)... junk.

Especially note the archives of ezines at the end.



Last updated: 27-Aug-93 by John Labovitz <johnl@netcom.com>

This is a summary of electronically-accessible zines.  The format should 
be fairly self-explanatory.  In most cases, descriptions are excerpted from 
the masthead of the zine listed.

[For those of you not acquainted with the zine world, "zine" is short for 
either "fanzine" or "magazine," depending on your point of view.  Zines are 
generally produced by one person or a small group of people, done mostly for 
fun, and often irreverent, bizarre, and/or esoteric.  Zines are not 
"mainstream" publications -- they generally do not contain advertisements 
(except, sometimes, advertisements for other zines), do not have a large 
subscriber base, and are not produced to make money.]

If you have any additions, deletions, or changes to this list, please email
them to johnl@netcom.com.

I will post this list (and/or changes to the list) to various mailing lists 
and Usenet news groups.  It can also be obtained via anonymous FTP from 
netcom.com as "/pub/johnl/zines/e-zine-list", and via email (either single 
issues or subscriptions) from e-zines-request@netcom.com.

If you publish an e-zine, or know someone who does, please send a copy to 
e-zines@netcom.com and I'll add the relevant info to this database.

All comments, suggestions, changes, deletions, etc., are welcomed and 
encouraged.

        John Labovitz
        johnl@netcom.com

-----

Arm The Spirit
 "Arm The Spirit is a anti-imperialist/autonomist collective that 
  disseminates information about liberation struggles in advanced capitalist 
  countries and in the so-called 'Third World.'  Our focus is on armed 
  struggle and other forms of militant resistance but we do not limit 
  ourselves to this.  In Arm The Spirit you can find news on political 
  prisoners in North America and Europe, information on the struggles of 
  Indigenous peoples in the Americas, communiques from guerrilla groups, 
  debate and discussion on armed struggle and much more. We also attempt 
  to cover anti-colonial national liberation struggles in Kurdistan, 
  Puerto Rico, Euskadi and elsewhere."

  Editor(s): Autonome Forum <aforum@moose.uvm.edu>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Politics/Arm.the.Spirit
     E-Mail: aforum@moose.uvm.edu, subject: "ATS: e-mail request"
     Postal: Arm The Spirit, c/o Wild Seed Press, POB 57584, Jackson Stn.,
               Hamilton, Ontario, L8P 4X3, Canada
             Arm The Spirit, c/o Autonome Forum, POB 1242,
               Burlington, VT 05402-1242, USA
      Phone: +1 416 527 2419 (FAX for Canadian group)


Armadillo Culture
 "Being the excremeditation of a hyperactive armadillo's activities, 
  opinions, and other stuff..."

  Editor(s): Steve Okay <sokay@mitre.org>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Armadillo.Culture
     Postal: Armadillo Culture, 2857 Foxmill Rd. Herndon, VA 22071, USA


ART COM
 "An online magazine forum dedicated to the interface of contemporary art 
  and new communication technologies."

  Editor(s): Carl Eugene Loeffler <artcomtv@well.sf.ca.us>
     Format: ASCII text
     Usenet: alt.artcom
     Postal: ART COM, POB 193123 Rincon, San Francisco, CA 94119-3123, USA
      Phone: +1 415 431 7524 (voice), +1 415 431 7841 (fax)
      Other: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link (WELL): ART COM Electronic Network 
               (ACEN)


BLINK
 "BLINK would like to be a forum for the issues surrounding the intersection
  of consciousness and technology.  This is our best defense against
  postmodern angst: To critically look at and anticipate the cultural and
  social changes spurred by the rapid development of technology."

  Editor(s): Justin Kerr <ratsbats@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>
             Joe Germuska (managing editor)
             Danny Dunlavy (chiphead)
             Jake Eldridge (assistant editor)
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: blink.acns.nwu.edu:/pub/blink
     Gopher: gopher.well.sf.ca.us


Computer Underground Digest
 "An open forum dedicated to sharing information among computerists and 
  to the presentation and debate of diverse views."

  Editor(s): Jim Thomas and Gordon Meyer <TK0JUT2@NIU.BITNET>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: ftp.eff.org:/pub/cud
             etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/CuD/cud
             halcyon.com:/pub/mirror/cud
             aql.gatech.edu;/pub/eff/cud
             ftp.ee.mu.oz.au:/pub/text/CuD (Australia)
             nic.funet.fi:pub/doc/cud (Finland)
             ftp.warwick.ac.uk:pub/cud (United Kingdom)
     Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu
     Postal: Jim Thomas, Department of Sociology, NIU, DeKalb, IL 60115, USA
      Phone: +1 815 753 0303 (voice), +1 815 753 6302 (fax)
     Usenet: comp.society.cu-digest
 CompuServe: DL0 and DL4 of the IBMBBS SIG; DL1 of LAWSIG; DL1 of TELECOM
      Other: GEnie: PF*NPC RT libraries; VIRUS/SECURITY library
             America Online: PC Telecom forum under "computing newsletters"
             Delphi: General Discussion database of the Internet SIG
             PC-EXEC BBS (+1 414 789 4210)
             Rune Stone BBS (IIRG WHQ) (+1 203 832 8441) NUP:Conspiracy
             RIPCO BBS (+1 312 528 5020)
             via Fidonet File Request from 1:11/70
             ComNet in LUXEMBOURG BBS (+352 466893)
             Bits against the Empire BBS (+39 461 980493) (Italy)


Crash
 "A guide to traveling through the underground.  Alternative travel
  stories, hints, and tips."

  Editor(s): John Labovitz <johnl@netcom.com>
             Miles Poindexter
             Nigel French
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: netcom.com:/pub/johnl/zines/crash
     Postal: Crash, 519 Castro #7, San Francisco, CA 94114, USA
  

CTHEORY -- Virtual Review of Books for Post-Modem Theory
 "CTHEORY is a new international, electronic review of books on theory, 
  technology and culture. Reviews are posted monthly of key books in 
  contemporary discourse as well as theorisations of major 'event-scenes' in 
  the mediascape. Editors and contributors include: Kathy Acker, Jean 
  Baudrillard, Bruce Sterling, Arthur and Marilouise Kroker, Deena and 
  Michael Weinstein. CTHEORY will also offer the possibility of interactive 
  discussions among its subscribers in the electronic theory 
  'sim-posium/salon.'"

  Editor(s): <ed22@musica.mcgill>
     Format: ASCII text
     E-Mail: LISTSERV@VM1.MCGILL.CA
               with text body: "SUBSCRIBE CTHEORY <full-name>"


Cyberspace Vanguard
 "News and Views of the Science Fiction and Fantasy Universe"

  Editor(s): TJ Goldstein <tlg4@po.cwru.edu>
             Sarah Alexander, Administrator <aa746@po.cwru.edu>
     Format: ASCII text
     E-Mail: cn577@cleveland.freenet.edu
             Cyberspace Vanguard@1:157/564 (FidoNet)
             CVANGUARD (Delphi)
     Postal: Cyberspace Vanguard, POB 25704, Garfield Heights, OH 44125, USA


Drum
 "Drum is not an isolated event but an ongoing process."

  Editor(s): R. Patrick Jones <dh644@cleveland.Freenet.Edu>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Drum
     Gopher: gopher.well.sf.ca.us


Ego Project
 "This 'zine is a product of me and as such will contain anything I feel 
  like putting in it.  Whatever I feel like putting in it shall include,
  but is not limited too, anything I feel applies to Gothdom in general.   
  Album/single/tape reviews, book and movies reviews, etc. The Sisters of 
  Mercy and the Mission are my main focuses, but since neither of them 
  put out music on anything resembling a frequent basis I imagine other 
  groups will be featured quite frequently."

  Editor(s): Corey Nelson <ieya@byron.u.washington.edu>
     Format: ASCII text
     Gopher: gopher.well.sf.ca.us
     Postal: Ego Project, 1717 Monroe #b, Bellingham, WA 98225, USA


Factsheet Five / Factsheet Five - Electric
 "FactSheet Five is the central clearinghouse of information about zines,
  those opinionated publications with press runs of 50 to 5000 (often done
  through surrepticious use of on-the-job supplies and xerox).  Mike 
  Gunderloy of Rennsalaer, NY published 44 editions of F5.  Hudson Luce 
  published the final issue, #45.  I opened my big mouth (or, rather, let 
  my fingers blab away) about doing an online, net-accessible version of
  FactSheet Five."

  Editor(s): Jerod Pore <jerod23@well.sf.ca.us> (electronic version)
             Seth Friedman <sethf5@well.sf.ca.us> (paper version)
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Factsheet.Five
             nigel.msen.com:/pub/newsletters/F5-E
             src.doc.ic.ac.uk:/literary/newsletters/factsheet-five
     Gopher: gopher.well.sf.ca.us
       WAIS: nigel.msen.com
     Postal: Factsheet Five, 1800 Market St., San Francisco, CA 94102, USA
               (This is for *BOTH* the electronic and paper versions; 
                or for items that can't be delivered to a PO box)
             Seth Friedman, POB 170099, San Francisco, CA 94117-0099, USA
               (This is for the paper version *only*, especially 
                subscriptions)
      Other: The WELL
             BBSes around the world


FUNHOUSE! -- The cyberzine of degenerate pop culture
 "Dedicated to whatever happens to be on my mind at the time I'm writing.  
  The focus will tend to be on those aspects of our fun-filled world which
  aren't given the attention of the bland traditional media, or which have 
  been woefully misinterpreted or misdiagnosed by the same.  FUNHOUSE! is
  basically a happy place, and thus the only real criteria I will try to 
  meet is to refrain from rants, personal attacks, and flames -- and thus 
  FUNHOUSE! is an apolitical place.  Offbeat films, music, literature, and 
  experiences are largely covered, with the one stipulation that articles 
  are attempted to be detailed and well documemnted, although this is no 
  guarantee of completeness or correctness, so that the interested reader 
  may further pursue something which may spark her interest."

  Editor(s): Jeff Dove <jeffdove@well.sf.ca.us>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: netcom.com in /pub/johnl/zines/funhouse


High Weirdness by Email
  random Internet information

  Editor(s): <mporter@nyx.cs.du.edu>
     Format: ASCII text
     Gopher: gopher.well.sf.ca.us


International TeleTimes
 "International Teletimes is a general interest magazine. There are several
  recurring monthly columns but the rest of the content changes from month to
  month as new themes are chosen. The goal of Teletimes is to attract a large
  variety of writers from all over the world so that the readers will be 
  exposed to a great variety of ideas and opinions."

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Date: Sun, 2 Jan 94 10:06:58 -0500
From: ferguson@icm1.icp.net (Paul Ferguson)
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To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: _The_Hacker_Crackdown_, _Three_Years_Later_

 
I bought Bruce Sterling's book, _The_Hacker_Crackdown_ when it
was first published in November 1992. A lot of us followed along with
the events outlined in the book in real time, so it was genuinely
refreshing to see Bruce author an afterward, "...Three Years Later",
in the electronic freeware release, which made its debut on The Well's
gopher yesterday.
 
 
The remainder of the book is available via gopher:
        gopher.well.sf.ca.us 70
 
follow the menu options to:
        /Publications/authors/Sterling/hc
 
 
Cheers.
 
8<--------------------- cut here --------------------------
 
 
Bruce Sterling
bruces@well.sf.ca.us
 
Literary Freeware:  Not for Commercial Use
 
 
                   THE HACKER CRACKDOWN
 
         Law and Disorder on the Electronic Frontier
 
 
Afterword:  The Hacker Crackdown Three Years Later
 
     Three years in cyberspace is like thirty years anyplace
real.  It feels as if a generation has passed since I wrote
this book.  In terms of the generations of computing machinery
involved, that's pretty much the case.
 
     The basic shape of cyberspace has changed drastically
since 1990.  A new U.S. Administration is in power whose
personnel are, if anything, only too aware of the nature and
potential of electronic networks.  It's now clear to all
players concerned that the status quo is dead-and-gone in American
media and telecommunications, and almost any territory on
the electronic frontier is up for grabs.  Interactive
multimedia, cable-phone alliances, the Information Superhighway, fiber-
to-the-curb, laptops and palmtops, the explosive growth of
cellular and the Internet -- the earth trembles visibly.
 
     The year 1990 was not a pleasant one for AT&T.  By
1993, however, AT&T had successfully devoured the computer
company NCR in an unfriendly takeover, finally giving the
pole-climbers a major piece of the digital action.  AT&T
managed to rid itself of ownership of the troublesome UNIX
operating system, selling it to Novell, a netware company,
which was itself preparing for a savage market dust-up with
operating-system titan Microsoft.  Furthermore, AT&T
acquired McCaw Cellular in a gigantic merger, giving AT&T a
potential wireless whip-hand over its former progeny, the
RBOCs.  The RBOCs themselves were now AT&T's clearest
potential rivals, as the Chinese firewalls between regulated
monopoly and frenzied digital entrepreneurism began to melt
and collapse headlong.
 
     AT&T, mocked by industry analysts in 1990, was reaping
awestruck praise by commentators in 1993.   AT&T had
managed to avoid any more major software crashes in its
switching stations.  AT&T's newfound reputation as "the
nimble giant" was all the sweeter, since AT&T's traditional
rival giant in the world of multinational computing, IBM,
was almost prostrate by 1993.  IBM's vision of the commercial
computer-network of the future, "Prodigy," had managed to
spend $900 million without a whole heck of a lot to show for
it, while AT&T, by contrast, was boldly speculating on the
possibilities of personal communicators and hedging its bets
with investments in handwritten interfaces.  In 1990 AT&T
had looked bad; but in 1993 AT&T looked like the future.
 
     At least, AT&T's *advertising* looked like the future.
Similar public attention was riveted on the massive $22
billion megamerger between RBOC Bell Atlantic and cable-TV giant
Tele-Communications Inc.   Nynex was buying into cable
company Viacom International.  BellSouth was buying stock in
Prime Management, Southwestern Bell acquiring a cable
company in Washington DC, and so forth.   By stark contrast,
the Internet, a noncommercial entity which officially did
not even exist, had no advertising budget at all.  And yet,
almost below the level of governmental and corporate awareness,
the Internet was stealthily devouring everything in its path,
growing at a rate that defied comprehension.  Kids who might
have been eager computer-intruders a mere five years earlier
were now surfing the Internet, where their natural urge to
explore led them into cyberspace landscapes of such
mindboggling vastness that the very idea of hacking
passwords seemed rather a waste of time.
 
     By 1993, there had not been a solid, knock 'em down,
panic-striking, teenage-hacker  computer-intrusion scandal
in many long months.  There had, of course, been some striking
and well-publicized acts of illicit computer access, but
they had been committed by adult white-collar industry insiders in
clear pursuit of personal or commercial advantage.  The kids, by
contrast, all seemed to be on IRC, Internet Relay Chat.
 
     Or, perhaps, frolicking out in the endless glass-roots
network of personal bulletin board systems.  In 1993, there
were an estimated 60,000 boards in America; the population
of boards had fully doubled since Operation Sundevil in 1990.
The hobby was transmuting fitfully into a genuine industry.  The
board community were no longer obscure hobbyists; many
were still hobbyists and proud of it, but board sysops and
advanced board users had become a far more cohesive and
politically aware community, no longer allowing themselves
to be obscure.
 
     The specter of cyberspace in the late 1980s, of
outwitted authorities trembling in fear before teenage hacker whiz-
kids, seemed downright antiquated by 1993.  Law enforcement
emphasis had changed, and the favorite electronic villain of
1993 was not the vandal child, but  the victimizer of
children, the digital child pornographer.  "Operation Longarm,"  a
child-pornography computer raid carried out by the previously
little-known cyberspace rangers of the U.S. Customs Service, was
almost the size of Operation Sundevil, but received very
little notice by comparison.
 
     The huge and well-organized "Operation Disconnect,"
an FBI strike against telephone rip-off con-artists, was
actually larger than Sundevil.  "Operation Disconnect" had
its brief moment in the sun of publicity, and then vanished
utterly. It was unfortunate that a law-enforcement affair as
apparently well-conducted as Operation Disconnect, which
pursued telecom adult career criminals a hundred times more
morally repugnant than teenage hackers, should have received
so little attention and fanfare, especially compared to the
abortive Sundevil and the basically disastrous efforts of
the Chicago Computer Fraud and Abuse Task Force.  But the life
of an electronic policeman is seldom easy.
 
     If any law enforcement event truly deserved full-scale
press coverage (while somehow managing to escape it), it was
the amazing saga of New York State Police Senior
Investigator Don Delaney Versus the Orchard Street Finger-
Hackers.  This story  probably represents the real future of
professional telecommunications crime in America.  The
finger-hackers sold, and still sell, stolen long-distance phone
service to a captive clientele of illegal aliens in New York City.
This clientele is desperate to call home, yet as a group, illegal
aliens have few legal means of obtaining standard phone service,
since their very presence in the United States is against
the law.  The finger-hackers of Orchard Street were very unusual
"hackers," with an astonishing lack of any kind of genuine
technological knowledge.  And yet these New York call-sell
thieves showed a street-level ingenuity appalling in its
single-minded sense of larceny.
 
     There was no dissident-hacker rhetoric about  freedom-
of-information among the finger-hackers.  Most of them came
out of the cocaine-dealing fraternity, and they retailed
stolen calls with the same street-crime techniques of lookouts and
bagholders that a crack gang would employ.  This was down-
and-dirty, urban, ethnic, organized crime, carried out by
crime families every day, for cash on the barrelhead, in the harsh
world of the streets.  The finger-hackers dominated certain
payphones in certain strikingly unsavory neighborhoods.
They provided a service no one else would give to a clientele
with little to lose.
 
     With such a vast supply of electronic crime  at hand,
Don Delaney rocketed from a background in homicide to teaching
telecom crime at FLETC in less than three years.  Few can
rival Delaney's hands-on, street-level experience in phone fraud.
Anyone in 1993 who still believes telecommunications crime
to be something rare and arcane should have a few words with
Mr Delaney.  Don Delaney has also written two fine essays,
on telecom fraud and computer crime, in Joseph Grau's *Criminal
and Civil Investigations Handbook* (McGraw Hill 1993).
 
     *Phrack* was still publishing in 1993, now under the
able editorship of Erik Bloodaxe.  Bloodaxe made a determined
attempt to get law enforcement and corporate security to pay
real money for their electronic copies of *Phrack,* but, as
usual, these stalwart defenders of intellectual property
preferred to pirate the magazine.  Bloodaxe has still not
gotten back any of his property from the seizure raids of March 1,
1990.  Neither has the Mentor, who is still the managing
editor of Steve Jackson Games.
 
     Nor has Robert Izenberg, who has suspended his court
struggle to get his machinery back.  Mr Izenberg has
calculated that his $20,000 of equipment seized in 1990 is, in 1993,
worth $4,000 at most.  The missing software, also gone out his
door, was long ago replaced.   He might, he says, sue for the sake
of principle, but he feels that the people who seized his
machinery have already been discredited, and won't be doing any more
seizures.  And even if his machinery were returned -- and in
good repair, which is doubtful -- it will  be essentially
worthless by 1995.  Robert Izenberg no longer works for IBM, but has a
job programming for a major telecommunications company in
Austin.
 
     Steve Jackson won his case against the Secret Service
on March 12, 1993, just over three years after the federal raid
on his enterprise.   Thanks to the delaying tactics available
through the legal doctrine of "qualified immunity," Jackson
was tactically forced to drop his suit against the individuals
William Cook, Tim Foley, Barbara Golden and Henry Kluepfel.   (Cook,
Foley, Golden and Kluepfel did, however, testify during the
trial.)
 
     The Secret Service fought vigorously in the case,
battling Jackson's lawyers right down the line, on the (mostly
previously untried) legal turf of the Electronic
Communications Privacy Act and the Privacy Protection Act of 1980.  The
Secret Service denied they were legally or morally responsible for
seizing the work of a publisher.   They claimed that (1)
Jackson's gaming "books" weren't real books anyhow, and (2)
the Secret Service didn't realize SJG Inc was a "publisher"
when they raided his offices, and (3) the books only
vanished by accident because they merely happened to be inside the
computers the agents were appropriating.
 
     The Secret Service also denied any wrongdoing in
reading and erasing all the supposedly "private" e-mail
inside Jackson's seized board, Illuminati.  The USSS attorneys
claimed the seizure did not violate the Electronic
Communications Privacy Act, because they weren't actually
"intercepting" electronic mail that was moving on a wire,
but only electronic mail that was quietly sitting on a disk
inside Jackson's computer.  They also claimed that USSS agents
hadn't read any of the private mail on Illuminati; and
anyway, even supposing that they had, they were allowed to do that
by the subpoena.
 
     The Jackson case became even more peculiar when the
Secret Service attorneys went so far as to allege that the
federal raid against the gaming company had actually
*improved Jackson's business*  thanks to the ensuing
nationwide publicity.
 
     It was a long and rather involved trial.  The judge
seemed most perturbed, not by the arcane matters of
electronic law, but by the fact that the Secret Service could have
avoided almost all the consequent trouble simply by giving Jackson
his computers back in short order.   The Secret Service easily
could have looked at everything in Jackson's computers, recorded
everything, and given the machinery back, and there would
have been no major scandal or federal court suit.  On the
contrary, everybody simply would have had a good laugh.
Unfortunately, it appeared that this idea had never entered
the heads of the Chicago-based investigators.  They seemed to
have concluded unilaterally, and without due course of law,
that the world would be better off if Steve Jackson didn't
have computers.  Golden and Foley claimed that they had both
never even heard of the Privacy Protection Act.  Cook had heard of
the Act, but he'd decided on his own that the Privacy
Protection Act had nothing to do with Steve Jackson.
 
     The Jackson case was also a very politicized trial,
both sides deliberately angling for a long-term legal precedent
that would stake-out big claims for their interests in
cyberspace. Jackson and his EFF advisors tried hard to establish that
the least e-mail remark of the lonely electronic pamphleteer
deserves the same somber civil-rights protection as that
afforded *The New York Times.*  By stark contrast, the
Secret Service's attorneys argued boldly that the contents of an
electronic bulletin board have no more expectation of
privacy than a heap of postcards.  In the final analysis, very
little was firmly nailed down.  Formally, the legal rulings in the
Jackson case apply only in the federal Western District of Texas.
It was, however, established that these were real civil-
liberties issues that powerful people were prepared to go to the
courthouse over; the seizure of bulletin board systems,
though it still goes on, can be a perilous act for the seizer.
The Secret Service owes Steve Jackson $50,000 in damages, and a
thousand dollars each to three of Jackson's angry and offended
board users.  And Steve Jackson, rather than owning the
single-line bulletin board system "Illuminati" seized in
1990, now rejoices in possession of a huge privately-owned
Internet node, "io.com," with dozens of phone-lines on its  own T-1
trunk.
 
     Jackson has made the entire blow-by-blow narrative of
his case available electronically, for interested parties.
And yet, the Jackson case may still not be over; a Secret Service appeal
seems likely and the EFF is also gravely dissatisfied with the
ruling on electronic interception.
 
     The WELL, home of the American electronic civil
libertarian movement, added two thousand more users and
dropped its aging Sequent computer in favor of a snappy new
Sun Sparcstation.  Search-and-seizure dicussions on the WELL
are now taking a decided back-seat to the current hot topic
in digital civil liberties, unbreakable public-key encryption
for private citizens.
 
     The Electronic Frontier Foundation left its modest home
in Boston to move inside the Washington Beltway of the
Clinton Administration.  Its new executive director, ECPA
pioneer and longtime ACLU activist Jerry Berman, gained a
reputation of a man adept as dining with tigers, as the EFF
devoted its attention to networking at the highest levels of
the computer and telecommunications industry.  EFF's pro-
encryption lobby and anti-wiretapping initiative were
especially impressive, successfully assembling a herd of
highly variegated industry camels under the same EFF tent, in open
and powerful opposition to the electronic ambitions of the
FBI and the NSA.
 
     EFF had transmuted at light-speed from an insurrection
to an institution.  EFF Co-Founder Mitch Kapor once again
sidestepped the bureaucratic consequences of his own
success, by remaining in Boston and adapting the role of EFF guru and
gray eminence.   John Perry Barlow, for his part, left
Wyoming, quit the Republican Party, and moved to New York City,
accompanied by his swarm of cellular phones.   Mike Godwin
left Boston for Washington as EFF's official legal adviser
to the electronically afflicted.
 
     After the Neidorf trial, Dorothy Denning further proved
her firm scholastic independence-of-mind by speaking up
boldly on the usefulness and social value of federal
wiretapping.  Many civil libertarians, who regarded the
practice of wiretapping with deep occult horror,  were
crestfallen to the point of comedy when nationally known
"hacker sympathizer" Dorothy Denning sternly defended
police and public interests in official eavesdropping.
However, no amount of public uproar seemed to swerve the "quaint" Dr.
Denning in the slightest.  She not only made up her own
mind, she made it up in public and then stuck to her guns.
 
     In 1993, the stalwarts of the Masters of Deception,
Phiber Optik, Acid Phreak and Scorpion, finally fell afoul of the
machineries of legal prosecution.  Acid Phreak and Scorpion
were sent to prison for six months, six months of home
detention, 750 hours of community service, and, oddly, a $50
fine for conspiracy to commit computer crime.  Phiber Optik,
the computer intruder with perhaps the highest public
profile in the entire world, took the longest to plead guilty, but,
facing the possibility of ten years in jail, he finally did so.  He
was sentenced to a year and a day in prison.
 
     As for the Atlanta wing of the Legion of Doom, Prophet,
Leftist and Urvile...   Urvile now works for a software
company in Atlanta.  He is still on probation and still
repaying his enormous fine.  In fifteen months, he will once again be
allowed to own a personal computer.  He is still a convicted
federal felon, but has not had any legal difficulties since
leaving  prison.  He has lost contact with Prophet and Leftist.
Unfortunately, so have I, though not through lack of honest
effort.
 
     Knight Lightning, now 24,  is a technical writer for
the federal government in Washington DC.  He has still not
been accepted into law school, but having spent more than
his share of time in the company of attorneys, he's come to
think that maybe an MBA would be more to the point.   He still
owes his attorneys $30,000, but the sum is dwindling steadily
since he is manfully working two jobs.  Knight Lightning customarily
wears a suit and tie and carries a valise.  He has a federal
security clearance.
 
     Unindicted *Phrack* co-editor Taran King is also a
technical writer in Washington DC,  and recently got
married.
 
     Terminus did his time, got out of prison, and currently
lives in Silicon Valley where he is running a full-scale
Internet node, "netsys.com."   He programs professionally for a
company specializing in satellite links for the Internet.
 
     Carlton Fitzpatrick still teaches at the Federal Law
Enforcement Training Center, but FLETC found that the issues
involved in sponsoring and running a bulletin board system
are rather more complex than they at first appear to be.
 
     Gail Thackeray  briefly considered going into private
security, but then changed tack, and joined the Maricopa
County District Attorney's Office (with a salary).  She is
still vigorously prosecuting electronic racketeering in Phoenix,
Arizona.
 
     The fourth consecutive Computers, Freedom and Privacy
Conference will take place in March 1994 in Chicago.
 
     As for Bruce Sterling... well *8-).  I thankfully
abandoned my brief career as  a true-crime journalist and wrote a new
science fiction novel, *Heavy Weather,* and assembled a new
collection of short stories, *Globalhead.*  I also write
nonfiction regularly,  for the popular-science column in
*The Magazine of  Fantasy and Science Fiction.*
 
     I like life better on the far side of the boundary
between fantasy and reality;  but I've come to recognize that
reality has an unfortunate  way of annexing fantasy for its own
purposes. That's why I'm on the Police Liaison Committee for  EFF-
Austin, a local electronic civil liberties group (eff-
austin@tic.com).  I don't think I will ever get over my
experience of the Hacker Crackdown, and I expect to be
involved in electronic civil liberties activism for the rest
of my life.
 
     It wouldn't be hard to find material for another book
on computer crime and civil liberties issues.   I truly believe
that I could write another book much like this one, every year.
Cyberspace is very big.  There's a lot going on out there,
far more than can be adequately covered by the tiny, though
growing, cadre of network-literate reporters.  I do wish I
could do more work on this topic, because the various people of
cyberspace are an element of our society that definitely
requires sustained study and attention.
 
     But there's only one of me, and I have a lot on my
mind, and, like most science fiction writers, I have a lot more
imagination than discipline.  Having done my stint as an
electronic-frontier reporter, my hat is off to those
stalwart few who do it every day.  I may return to this topic some day,
but I have no real plans to do so.  However, I didn't have any
real plans to write "Hacker Crackdown," either.  Things happen,
nowadays.  There are landslides in cyberspace.  I'll just
have to try and stay alert and on my feet.
 
     The electronic landscape changes with astounding speed.
We are living through the fastest technological transformation
in human history.  I was glad to have a chance to document
cyberspace during one moment in its long mutation; a kind of
strobe-flash of the maelstrom.  This book is already out-of-
date, though, and it will be quite obsolete in another five
years. It seems a pity.
 
     However, in about fifty years, I think this book might
seem quite interesting.  And in a hundred years, this book
should seem mind-bogglingly archaic and bizarre, and will
probably seem far weirder to an audience in 2092 than it
ever seemed to the contemporary readership.
 
     Keeping up in cyberspace requires a great deal of
sustained attention.   Personally, I keep tabs with the
milieu by reading the invaluable electronic magazine  Computer
underground Digest  (tk0jut2@mvs.cso.niu.edu with the
subject header: SUB CuD and a message that says:  SUB CuD your
name   your.full.internet@address).  I also read Jack
Rickard's bracingly iconoclastic *Boardwatch  Magazine* for print news
of the BBS and online community.  And, needless to say, I
read *Wired,* the first magazine of the 1990s that actually looks
and  acts like it really belongs in this decade.  There are other
ways to learn, of course, but these three outlets will guide your
efforts very well.
 
     When I myself want to publish something electronically,
which I'm doing with increasing frequency, I generally put
it on the gopher at Texas Internet Consulting, who are my, well,
Texan Internet consultants  (tic.com).  This book can be
found there.  I think it is a worthwhile act to let this work go
free.
 
     From thence, one's bread floats out onto the dark
waters of cyberspace, only to return someday, tenfold.  And of
course, thoroughly soggy, and riddled with an entire amazing
ecosystem of bizarre and gnawingly hungry cybermarine life-
forms.  For this author at least, that's all that really
counts.
 
     Thanks for your attention  *8-)
 
     Bruce Sterling  bruces@well.sf.ca.us  -- New Years' Day
1994, Austin Texas
 
 
8<----------------- cut here ---------------------------------
 
________________________________________________________________________
Paul Ferguson
Sprint Managed Router Network Engineering           tel: 703.904.2437
Herndon, Virginia  USA                         internet: ferguson@icp.net


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This is the end-of-year issue of CuD. It's pretty hackish, but very
smart. I believe you should read some stuff you don't understand, cuz
humans absorb things sideways sometimes. Pretty cool politics here for
the most part.

This is a cumulative index to previous issues, is why I'm maling it.

Flesh, could you add this to the Gopher?



Computer underground Digest    Sun  Jan 02 1994   Volume 6 : Issue 01
                           ISSN  1004-042X

       Editors: Jim Thomas and Gordon Meyer (TK0JUT2@NIU.BITNET)
       Archivist: Brendan Kehoe
       Shadow-Archivists: Dan Carosone / Paul Southworth
                          Ralph Sims / Jyrki Kuoppala
                          Ian Dickinson
       Copy Editor: Craig Shergold, XIII

CONTENTS, #6.01 (Jan 02 1994)
File 1 --Cu Digest Content Index, Vol 5.01 - 5.95 (1993)

Cu-Digest is a weekly electronic journal/newsletter. Subscriptions are
available at no cost electronically from tk0jut2@mvs.cso.niu.edu. The
editors may be contacted by voice (815-753-0303), fax (815-753-6302)
or U.S. mail at:  Jim Thomas, Department of Sociology, NIU, DeKalb, IL
60115.

Issues of CuD can also be found in the Usenet comp.society.cu-digest
news group; on CompuServe in DL0 and DL4 of the IBMBBS SIG, DL1 of
LAWSIG, and DL1 of TELECOM; on GEnie in the PF*NPC RT
libraries and in the VIRUS/SECURITY library; from America Online in
the PC Telecom forum under "computing newsletters;"
On Delphi in the General Discussion database of the Internet SIG;
on the PC-EXEC BBS at (414) 789-4210; and on: Rune Stone BBS (IIRG
WHQ) (203) 832-8441 NUP:Conspiracy; RIPCO BBS (312) 528-5020
CuD is also available via Fidonet File Request from 1:11/70; unlisted
nodes and points welcome.
EUROPE:   from the ComNet in LUXEMBOURG BBS (++352) 466893;
          In ITALY: Bits against the Empire BBS: +39-461-980493

ANONYMOUS FTP SITES:
  AUSTRALIA:      ftp.ee.mu.oz.au (128.250.77.2) in /pub/text/CuD.
  EUROPE:         ftp.funet.fi in pub/doc/cud. (Finland)
  UNITED STATES:
                  aql.gatech.edu (128.61.10.53) in /pub/eff/cud
                  etext.archive.umich.edu (141.211.164.18)  in /pub/CuD/cud
                  ftp.eff.org (192.88.144.4) in /pub/CuD
                  halcyon.com( 202.135.191.2) in mirror2/cud
                  ftp.warwick.ac.uk in pub/cud (United Kingdom)
  KOREA:          ftp: cair.kaist.ac.kr in /doc/eff/cud

COMPUTER UNDERGROUND DIGEST is an open forum dedicated to sharing
information among computerists and to the presentation and debate of
diverse views.  CuD material may  be reprinted for non-profit as long
as the source is cited. Authors hold a presumptive copyright, and
they should be contacted for reprint permission.  It is assumed that
non-personal mail to the moderators may be reprinted unless otherwise
specified.  Readers are encouraged to submit reasoned articles
relating to computer culture and communication.  Articles are
preferred to short responses.  Please avoid quoting previous posts
unless absolutely necessary.

DISCLAIMER: The views represented herein do not necessarily represent
            the views of the moderators. Digest contributors assume all
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 93 00:18:00 BST
From: grmeyer@GENIE.GEIS.COM
Subject: Cu Digest Content Index, Vol 5.01 - 5.95 (1993)

1994 begins with the Contents of articles from 1993, and for those who
missed it, the cummulative subject/topic/name index for Volumes 1-4
were published in #5.94.

Be sure to send in articles, news, and other information you think
readers would find interesting.

Happy '94---

Gordon and Jim

=======================================================

               Cu DIGEST VOLUME 5 (1993) INDEX
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CONTENTS, #5.01 (Jan 6, 1993)
File 1--Index to CuD volume 4 (1992)

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CONTENTS, #5.02 (Jan 10, 1992)
File 1--DoJ Has NOT "Authorized" Keystroke Monitoring
File 2--Re: Dorm Room Raid (CuD #4.67)
File 3--Reports on Ames Raid Available
File 4--Hysteria from Forbes via NPR
File 5--OECD Security Guidelines
File 6--CU IN THE NEWS
File 7--"Any one Who Owns a Scanner is a Hacker, or..."
File 8--FYI: 3rd Computers, Freedom and Privacy Conference

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CONTENTS, #5.03 (Jan 13, 1992)
File 1--Moderators' Cornered
File 2--STEVE JACKSON GAMES TRIAL DATE SET
File 3--Re: COM DAILY ON F.C.C.
File 4--with regards to the DoJ's keystroke logging notice
File 5--Re: White Sands (SIMTEL-20) and copyrighted software
File 6--Re: Dorm Room Raid (CuD #5.02)
File 7--Follow-up to CuD #5.02 File 2 [Re: Dorm Room Raid (CuD #4.67)]
File 8--CFP-3 Scholarships Available
File 9--Canadian Media and BBSes
File 10--United Kingdom Software Seizure Laws
File 11--High Students charged in Computer Burglaries (Reprint)
File 12--Comments on _Hacker_Crackdown_

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CONTENTS, #5.04 (Jan 17, 1992)
File 1--Steve Jackson Games case trial postponed
File 2--MAJOR CHANGES AT THE ELECTRONIC FRONTIER FOUNDATION
File 3--Newsbytes on EFF Reorganization
File 4--Some Questions & Comments on EFF Reorganization
File 5--Transcript of Secret Service Press Conference in Lubbock

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CONTENTS, #5.05 (Jan 20, 1993)
File 1--Balancing Computer Crime Statutes and Freedom
File 2--Encryption issues
File 3--Response to Mark Carter in CuD #5.02 and #5.03
File 4--Released GSA Docs Slam FBI Wiretap Proposal
File 5--Attempted Mindvox Break-in
File 6--Keyboarding Explosive Data for Homemade Bombs

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CONTENTS, #5.06 (Jan 24, 1993)
File 1--Introduction to Second SPA & BSA Issue
File 2--Re: Taking a Look at the SPA (CuD 4.63)
File 3--Reaction to SPA statements in CuD 4.63
File 4--SPA EDUCATES THE PUBLIC ON SOFTWARE COPYRIGHTS - NOT!
File 5--A Comment on the SPA (Gray Areas Reprint)
File 6--Nintendo News Release (Re: BSA APL Bust - Oct '92)
File 7--The BSA, APL BBS, and Anti-Piracy Crackdowns

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CONTENTS, #5.07 (Jan 26, 1993)
File 1--Mark Carter Clears his Name...
File 2--Reply to St.Catharine's "Porn" stories (RE: CuD 5.02)
File 3--Legal Strategy on 2600 Nov. '92 Mall Harassment
File 4--Re: "Explosive Data for Bombs" (CuD #5.05)
File 5--Response to Prosecutor Citarella's Notes (CuD 5.06)

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CONTENTS, #5.08 (Jan 28, 1993)
File 1--Response to "Resistance at Shopping Mall" (CuD 5.07)
File 2--Offworld BBS Raided (StLPD
File 3--Colonel Guilty of Sending Computer Porn
File 4--ISPTS Organizing Information
File 5--New case for EFF, ACLU, and CPSR
File 6--Public Service for Cornell Hackers
File 7--CFP Special Issue on Security [Change in Due Date]
File 8--Talking with the Underground

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CONTENTS, #5.09 (Jan 31, 1993)
File 1--Media hype goes both ways (in re: Forbes article)
File 2--Forbes, NPR, and a Response to Jerry Leichter
File 3--Revised Computer Crime Sent
File 4--Balancing Computer Crime Statutes and Freedom

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CONTENTS, #5.10 (Feb 3, 1993)
File 1--Steve Jackson Games Trial Summary
File 2--More Background on SJG Trial
File 3--Steve Jackson Games case (Day 1)
File 4--Steve Jackson Games Update 1/28/93 Day 2)
File 5--Houston Chron's View of Abernathy Trial (Reprint)
File 6--the most wonderful thing happened at the trial
File 7--Cell-phone encryption and tapping
File 8--Clever Tactics Against Piracy
File 9--Rusty and Edie's BBS raided by FBI

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CONTENTS, #5.11 (Feb 7, 1993)
File 1--Introduction to a Chat with the SPA
File 2--A Chat with the SPA
File 3--How does the SPA Calculate Piracy?

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CONTENTS, #5.12 (Feb 10, 1993)
File 1--CPSR Sues Secret Service for 2600 Docs
File 2--Clever Tactics Against Piracy
File 3--SPA has Banner Year
File 4--Mitch Kapor's Forbes Column on S.893
File 5--Re: Pirate Software
File 6--In Re "Legal Strategy on 2600 Nov. '92" (CuD #5.07)
File 7--Common Carrier Review Request
File 8--Some Comments on "Approach Zero" (review)
File 9--For your mailing lists/newsgroups

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CONTENTS, #5.13 (Feb 14, 1993)
File 1--Talking with the Underground
File 2--System Surfing at U-Cal/Davis
File 3--Unemployed Programmers Turning their Talents to Evil
File 4--"Hackers" take on the UFOs?

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CONTENTS, #5.14 (Feb 17, 1993)
File 1--Re: CuD, #5.11 - SPA's Piracy Estimates
File 2--Cu News: Pirate Amnesty, Toll Fraud Decline, etc
File 3--Re: EFF in Time's Cyberpunk Article
File 4--Behar's Response to Godwin
File 5--Censorship in Cyberspace
File 6--Undercover Rambos?? (NYT Story on "Hakr Trakr")
File 7--Social Engineering (Re: CuD #.13)
File 8--Cybersmut is Good
File 9--Suggestions For a Hi-tech Crime-investigators' Seminar?
File 10--Re:  Unemployed Programmers Turning Talents to Evil (#5.13)

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CONTENTS, #5.15 (Feb 21 1993)
File 1--MODERATORS' Corner  (ah, sundry snippets)
File 2--Re SPA/Piracy (CuD #5.14)
File 3--TIME & Puzzlement
File 4--Technology and Populist Publishing (GEnie Reprint)
File 5--"Time Bomb" Detonated In Pennsylvania
File 6--(fwd) CICnet rural datafication / ubiquitous access

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CONTENTS, #5.16 (Feb 24 1993)
File 1--Clinton's Silicon Valley Speech/SGI (transcript)

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CONTENTS, #5.17 (Feb 28 1993)
Subject: File 1--Police motivations re. computer crime
Subject: File 2--ACLU Interesting in Rusty & Edie's BBS?
Subject: File 3--Re: File 4--Technology & Populist Publishing (#5.15)
Subject: File 4--A Case for Electronic Publishing
Subject: File 5--Obtaining Back Issues of CuD via FTP
Subject: File 6--New Computer Viruses Run Amok (sort of) (Reprint)
Subject: File 7--Netsys Startup

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CONTENTS, #5.18 (Mar 7 1993)
File 1--PKZIP Bankruptcy Rumor is a *HOAX*
File 2--Hackers in the News (Orange County Register Reprint)
File 3--GPO ACCESS - WINDO UPDATE
File 4--London Times Educational Supplement Article
File 5--FWD: The White House Communication Project

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CONTENTS, #5.19 (Mar 10 1993)
File 1--Author responds to Shopping Mall criticism
File 2--Re: Hackers in the News (CuD #5.18)
File 3--Internet Talk Radio (fwd)
File 4--Call for Stories -- Reasons to Build the NII

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CONTENTS, #5.20 (Mar 14 1993)
File 1--Steve Jackson Games WINS! (fwd)
File 1--On-Line GEnie Interview with Bruce Sterling

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CONTENTS, #5.21 (Mar 21 1993)
File 1--CuD Mirror Update
File 2--New Info in 2600 Case
File 3--Official virus-writing contest
File 4--comments on proposed virus writing contest (Bontchev)
File 5--Comments on proposed virus writing contest (Frisk)
File 6--Response: virus-writing contest
File 7--Comments on the Virus Writing Contest
File 8--Bruce Sterling on GEnie (#5.20)
File 9--Re:  The White House Communication Project (#5.18)

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CONTENTS, #5.22 (Mar 25 1993)
File 1--Judge Spark's Decision in Steve Jackson Games Suit

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CONTENTS, #5.23 (Mar 28 1993)
-- Response to Virus Writing Contest (#5.21)
-- Akron BBS Sting Update
-- Getting information to and from the White House

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CONTENTS, #5.24 (Mar 31 1993)
File 1--Special Issue on CFP III (introduction)
File 2--Computer Freedom and Privacy III Conf. (Report 1)
File 3--Computer Freedom and Privacy III Conf. (Report 2)
File 4--Computer Freedom and Privacy III Conf. (Report 4)
File 5--Computer Freedom and Privacy III Conf. (Report 5)
File 6--Computer Freedom and Privacy III Conf. (Report 6)
File 7--Computer Freedom and Privacy III Conf. (Report 7)
File 8--Bridging the Gaps w/Law Enforcement (View 1)
File 9--Bridging the Gaps w/Law Enforcement (View 2)
File 10--Bridging the Gaps w/Law Enforcement (View 3)
File 11--Bridging the Gaps w/Law Enforcement (View 4)
File 12--A Few Final Words about CFP '93

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CONTENTS, #5.25 (Apr 4 1993)
File 1--CPSR Wins SSN Privacy Case
File 2--Re: Debating the Virus contest - 1 (#5.23)
File 3--Re: Debating the Virus contest - 2 (#5.23)
File 4--Re: Debating the Virus contest - 3 (#5.23)
File 5--USPS Freedom of Information Act Requests
File 6--Collecting Cu Files (From "LOD")
File 7--CU in the news
File 8--Comments on SJG Decision (GRID News)

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CONTENTS, #5.26 (Apr 11 1993)
File 1--Re: Debating the Virus contest - clarification
File 2--"The Logic of the Virtual Commons" (Research Report)
File 3--CUN News: Online Defamation Alleged / Pentagon Piracy

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CONTENTS, #5.27 (Apr 14 1993)
File 1--EFF and CPSR testimony against 18 USC 1030 Sent. Revisions
File 2--CPSR Comments on 1030 Guidelines
File 3--EFF Response to Proposed Sentencing Guidelines
File 4--LEGISLATIVE DATA ONLINE -- AB1624 needs support
File 5--AB1624 MANDATES ONLINE PUBLIC ACCESS TO LEGISLATIVE RECORDS
File 6--Some comments on AB1624 re online legislative access
File 7--AB1624 UPDATE#1--Making Leg. Data available Online

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CONTENTS, #5.28 (Apr 18 1993)
File 1--NREN Wrap (or "Joe's Ride at the Houston Chron")
File 2--Clinton Proposes National ID Card
File 3--White House Crypto Statement
File 4--Debate on Gov't Encryption Initiative (from CPSR)
File 5--RU Sirius/Mondo interview (from GEnie)
File 6--Rune Stone BBS (IIRG Home Board) Back On-Line

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CONTENTS, #5.29 (Apr 21 1993)
File 1--LTES article and Gender on the Nets (Re: CuD 5.18)
File 2--LTES article and Gender on the Nets--Response to Larry
File 3--LTES Article -- The author Responds

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CONTENTS, #5.30 (Apr 25 1993)
File 1--New disclosures in 2600 case
File 2--Press release on "Clipper Chip" encryption initiative
File 3--THE CLIPPER CHIP: A TECHNICAL SUMMARY
File 4--Sysop jailed in Georgia (article by Lance Rose)
File 5--Phone Fraud in the Telecom Industry

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CONTENTS, #5.31 (Apr 28 1993)
File 1--Response to 'Gender on the Nets' (Re CuD #5.29)
File 2--Re: Gender on the Nets (Re CuD 5.29)
File 3--Re: Sexual Bias on the Net (Re Cud 5.29)
File 4--A Female Response to the Gender Question in Cyberspace

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CONTENTS, #5.32 (May 2 1993)
File 1--If you missed the Galactic Hacker Party of 1989....
File 2--SPA Needs A Different Direction
File 3--Some thoughts on Clipper and the Constitution (1)
File 4--Some thoughts on Clipper and the Constitution (2)
File 5--Clinton Administration Freedom of Information Policy
File 6--Hacker Accused of Rigging Radio Contests
File 7--"Hacker" Executed in China
File 8--Electronic Privacy Conf w/Oliver North & Chris Goggans

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CONTENTS, #5.33 (May 5 1993)
File 1--Intro to CPSR/EFF Electronic "Hate-Crimes" Inquiry Responses
File 2--SEA letter - Hate Crime
File 3--EFF Response to NTIA "Hate Crimes" Inquiry

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CONTENTS, #5.34 (May 9 1993)
File 1--Another response to gender issues
File 2-- Response to Wes Morgan
File 3--Cryptography and Mythology
File 4--New NIST/NSA Revelations
File 5--About the Clipper Proposal
File 6--Dvorak criticizes the SPA
File 7--New 'Zine (ORA.COM) by O'Reilly & Associates

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CONTENTS, #5.35 (May 12 1993)
File 1--My Thoughts/questions on the "Clipper" chip.
File 2--Response to Jerry Leichter on Clipper Chip
File 3--Response to Rich Mackinnon on Clipper
File 4--Another Letter of Concern to "Hate Speech" Inquiry
File 5--FBI Raids Telco Manager's Home (TELECOM DIGEST SPECIAL)
File 6--DEF CON I Update

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CONTENTS, #5.36 (May 16 1993)
File 1--Yet Another "LOD" Pretender!
File 2--Building Bridges of Understanding in LE & Comp. Community
File 3--Crypto-Schemes/Mobile Digital Services in Australia
File 4--More on Free Speech & Cyberspace
File 5--Gene Spafford's Farewell
File 6--UPDATE #3-AB1624 Online Access to Legislation / ACT BY 5/13

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CONTENTS, #5.37 (May 19 1993)
File 1--CPSR Brief in 2600 FOIA Case
File 2--Response to Russell Brand (Re CuD 5.36)
File 3--"Clipper" Chip Redux
File 4--UPDATE #4-AB1624: Legislative Info Online
File 5--AB1624-Legislation Online - Making SURE it's "right"
File 6--CU In The News--Singapore Piracy / Ethics Conf.

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CONTENTS, #5.38 (May 22 1993)
File 1--Here We Go Again - 2600 Magazine Threatened With Lawsuit
File 2--Obtaining Whitehouse E-Publications
File 3--UK Computer Misuse case
File 4--CPSR Position Openings
File 5--A little feedback on Bridges of Understanding

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CONTENTS, #5.39 (May 30 1993)
File 1--The LOD Files - A CuD Critique
File 2--Histories of BBSes (excerpts from the LOD files)
File 3--LOD Project Summary and Contact Information
File 4--An Interview with the LOD

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CONTENTS, #5.40 (June 02 1993)
File 1--Bridges of Understanding
File 2--MTV News, Nets, Feedback from Users
File 3--CPSR NIST Crypto Statement
File 4--AB 1624/Online Info Bill PASSES MAJOR HURDLE!
File 5--UPDATE #8-AB1624--Press Freedom for Paper Pubs Only?
File 6--Virus News INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE 93

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CONTENTS, #5.41 (June 06 1993)
File 1-- LODCOM@ Mail Bounces Fixed --
File 2-- CuD (and other stuff) for Non-Internet readers
File 3-- A New public CU BBS in Southern Italy
File 4-- Sending E-Mail to Clinton and Gore
File 5-- Electronic fingerprinting of welfare recipients in CA
File 6-- Email "Etiquette"
File 7-- Microstate: Old Empires and New (New Repub. Reprint)

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CONTENTS, #5.42 (June 10 1993)
File 1--UPDATE #11-AB1624: Passed the Assembly, More to Do!
File 2--Rusty and Edies's: More Information
File 3--Timeline for a Network History
File 4--Re: Fingerprinting Welfare Recipients in CA
File 5--Call for Papers for Feminist Theory & Technoculture

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CONTENTS, #5.43 (June 13 1993)
File 1--Hacker testimony to House subcommittee largely unheard
File 2--CPSR Clipper Testimony (6-9-93) in House Subcommittee

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CONTENTS, #5.44 (June 16 1993)
File 1--Interview with a Virus Writer (Gray Area Excerpt)

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CONTENTS, #5.45 (June 20 1993)
File 1--LISTSERVE FOR CuD DESPERATELY NEEDED!!!
File 2--Re: 2600 testimony to Markey's subcommittee
File 3--Newsgroup Moderator Survey -- Respondents Requested
File 4--CUnews - SPA sues software rental; Sega/ratings; Censorship
File 5--Newsletter on work in computer industry
File 6--Course on "Politics and Technology"
File 7--GPO WINDO text here!
File 8--Re-AB1624: dumbing-down leg displays w/o dumbing-down data
File 9--6/17 AB1624: dumbed-down displays - ADDENDA

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CONTENTS, #5.46 (June 23 1993)
File 1--Re: File 6--Course on "Politics and Technology"
File 2--A public experiment in how private our lives really are
File 3--AB1624/Calif Legislature Computer Access -- Full Text
File 4--Summercon Synopsis & Playful Precis
File 5-- Defense Contractor Attacks Full Disclosure (Reprint) (#1)
File 6--The "Offending" Full Disclosure Story (#2)
File 7--The Harris Letter Threatening Litigation against FD (#3)
File 8--The Full Disclosure Atty's Response to Harris (#4)

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CONTENTS, #5.47 (June 27 1993)
File 1--Squelching the Rumor of the CuD ftp Sites
File 2--Another Stupid Rumor Bites the Dust
File 3--UPDATE #14-AB1624: bill-text as amended (*improved)*
File 4--Re: Full Disclosure TRIGGERFISH Hassle (CuD 5.46)
File 5--Response to Interview with a Virus Writer (CuD 5.44)
File 6--Virus Hits White House

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CONTENTS, #5.48 (June 30 1993)
File 1--Time to Review Law Enforcement Forfeiture Practices
File 2--Reform of Civil Asset Forfeiture Act (HR 2417)

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CONTENTS, #5.49 (July 4 1993)
File 1--*GEnie* Roundtable transcript of VIRUS/SECURITY
File 2--CPSR Workplace Privacy Test
File 3--JOB OPENING AT EFF
File 4--CuDs on BBSes: "Other Side of Infinity"

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CONTENTS, #5.50 (July 7 1993)
File 1--New information on Public Key Patents
File 2--Galactic Hacker Party, '93
File 3--On-Line Congressional Hearing
File 4--Hacker Listens to Secretary's Aides
File 5--Virtually no Reality in "Virtual Reality"
File 6--Donation Distinctions (By E-Zine Editors/Moderators)CONTENTS, #5.51
CONTENTS, #5.51  (July 11 1993)
File 1--Introduction to the AIS BBS Controversy
File 2--Response to RISKS' Anonymous Post attacking AIS BBS
File 3--Response to Anonymous: AIS BBS
File 4--A User's View of AIS BBS
File 5--Fear and Loathing: On the Virus Code Trail at AIS
File 6--Media, Anti-virus personnel, Ethics, and AIS

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CONTENTS, #5.52 (July 14 1993)
File 1--Subjective opinion (Paul Ferguson Responds to #5.51)
File 2--Update on 2600 Case
File 3--BBSes Carrying CuDs
File 4--Re: CRYPT Newsletter

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CONTENTS, #5.53 (July 18 1993)
File 1--CPSR Urges Revision of Secrecy System
File 2--CPSR/Berkeley Meeting on access to govt info
File 3--CU in da Newz
File 4--More CuD Sources for Non-Interneters --GEnie
File 5--Hyde For Wiretaps
File 6--Reply to Ferguson
File 7--Re: Cu Digest, #5.51 --The AIS BBS Incident
File 8--Viruses  (Reply to Paul Ferguson)
File 9--Another Reply to Paul Ferguson (RE CuD 5.52)
File 10--CONGRESS ASKED FOR HEARINGS ON OWENS (INFO ACCESS) BIL

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CONTENTS, #5.54 (July 21 1993)
File 1--B. Sterling and W. Gibson Comments on Cyberspace & Educ.
File 2--An open letter to Frank Tirado (from Paul Ferguson)
File 3--Response to The AIS BBS Incident
File 4--AIS BBS "debate"

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CONTENTS, #5.55 (July 21 1993)
File 1--"What is CPSR and how can we Join?"
File 2--Incident Response Workshop info
File 3--"Science & Tech Through Science Fiction" Conference
File 4--New hearing set for E-Fingerprinting in SF

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CONTENTS, #5.56 (July 28 1993)
File 1--Akron Anomaly BBS UpDate (Seizure Warrant)
File 2--Call for Paper: Computer Network Use and Abuse Conference
File 3--Credit Reports and National
File 4--UPDATE #19-AB1624: PROGRAMMERS! START YOUR ENGINES!
File 5--Community Network Survey Results Available

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CONTENTS, #5.57 ( Aug 1 1993)
File 1--Re: Hacker sentencing
File 2--Criminal Records Subject to Abuse
File 3--UPDATE: Ideas-Exchange listserv/ Legis Data Programmers
File 4--Observations from a "non-cyberhead"
File 5--Response to "Observations from a 'non-cyberhead'"
File 6--Rep. Markey's Letter in re AIS BBS
File 7--Response to Rep. Markey's Letter

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CONTENTS, #5.58 ( Aug 4 1993)
File 1--An Apology to Joel Garreau
File 2--The Complexity of Issues in the AIS BBS Affair
File 3--Virus distribution

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CONTENTS, #5.59 (Aug 8 1993)
File 1-- Unfair Newspaper Article on BBS Network & Replies
File 2-- NIRVANAnet BBSes and the Media (CuD Commentary)

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CONTENTS, #5.60 (Aug 11 1993)
File 1--CuD #5.59 Glitch & Some Belated Thanks from CuD to "helpers"
File 2--Computers, Freedom & Privacy, '94 -- Conference INFO
File 3--Congressional Fellowships for PhD/s-telecommunications
File 4--$50,000 Fine for "Software Theft" (Canadian News)
File 5--SKIPJACK Review  (Encryption Background and Assessment)

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CONTENTS, #5.61 (Aug 15 1993)
File 1--ERRATA in CuD #5.60
File 2--EFF Job Opening for ONLINE ACTIVIST
File 3--NSA Seeks Delay in Clipper
File 4--CPSR and the Nat'l Info Infrastructure
File 5--Call for Papers IFIP SEC'94 Caribbean
File 6--UPDATE #21-AB1624: *ACTION ALERT*: END-GAME APPROACHING
File 7--Illinois BBS Sysop Busted for "porn-to-minors"
File 8--In response to E-fingerprinting in Calif
File 9--Re--NIRVANAnet (A View from Brazil)
File 10--Public Domain Internet Information for Teachers <fwd>
File 11--Gory details about texsun (breakin) (fwd)

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CONTENTS, #5.62 (Aug 17 1993)
File 1--CU News ("Software felons," "Valuing Info," et. al.)
File 2--CuNews ("Technofogies" and more)
File 3--Another BBS Seizure in Hartford
File 4--Call for Clipper Comments

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CONTENTS, #5.63 (Aug 19 1993)
File 1--Frequency of CuDs and Mail Service
File 2--Akron BBS Update 6/30/93 - Seeking Equip't Return
File 3--SAVE SIMTEL-20!!!
File 4--UPDATE #23-AB1624: Clarification of Bill's Obstructors
File 5--Digital Library Use (DLU) Project Information
File 6--CPSR's 1993 Annual Meeting

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CONTENTS, #5.64 (Aug 22 1993)
File 1--Has the EFF SOLD OUT?!?
File 2--EICAR '93 conference / members' meeting
File 3--Re SKIPJACK Review (CuD 5.60)
File 4--CuNews  ("Smart Kards," Comp Snooping at IRS/FBI, & more)
File 5--CuNews -- ("Hackers need not Apply" & more)
File 6--Table of Contents for Volume #1 (of P/H Msg Bases)
File 7--Graduate Paper Competition for CFP-'94
File 1--Report on Summer Hack-Tic Conference in the Netherlands
File 2--Another View of the Hack-tic '93 Conference
File 3--Computer Culture and Media Images
File 4--Media Images of Cu Digest - CuD Response to SunWorld
File 5--CORRECTION on Graduate Paper Competition for CFP-'94

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CONTENTS, #5.65 (August 24 1993)
File 7--Graduate Paper Competition for CFP-'94
File 1--Report on Summer Hack-Tic Conference in the Netherlands
File 2--Another View of the Hack-tic '93 Conference
File 3--Computer Culture and Media Images
File 4--Media Images of Cu Digest - CuD Response to SunWorld
File 5--CORRECTION on Graduate Paper Competition for CFP-'94

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CONTENTS, #5.66 (Aug 26 1993)
File 1--SPECIAL ISSUES ON BIBLIOS AND RESOURCES
File 2--Computerization & Controversy (Biblio Resource)
File 3--40Hex is now a print magazine
File 4--"In a Different Format" (Review of gender/comp thesis)
File 5--"Smoking Dope on IRC--Play/Performance in Cyberspace"
File 6--Classifying Grad Theses & Dissertations as "private?"
File 7-- O'Reilly Internet Information Service
File 8--"The Internet Letter"--Internet's First Commercial Digest

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CONTENTS, #5.67 (Aug 29 1993)
File 1--Having Problems Reading CuD with your Software?
File 2--FERPA Redux--more on disses/theses as "private records"
File 3--Cops plead no contest to selling data
File 4--Article on Patient Privacy
File 5--CuNews - Whitehouse Mail; SPA's "Cities of Pirates"
File 6--Technology Conversion Conference
File 7--"Dirty Dan" Teaches "anti-hacking" to 3rd Graders
File 8--Calif Assem. Bill #1624 - Latest Full Text

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CONTENTS, #5.68 (Sep 1 1993)
File 1--SPECIAL ISSUE -- THE INFORMATION SOCIETY (Biblio list)

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CONTENTS, #5.69 (Sep 5 1993)
File 1--The Ware House BBS Case Reconsidered
File 2--Additional Facts in The Ware House (Hartford) BBS Case
File 3--Plea for money forwarded from the IIRG
File 4--Calif AB 1624 *IMMEDIATE* ACTION NEEDED or 1624 will die!
File 5--Model Letter in Support of Cal E-Access Law (AB 1624)

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CONTENTS, #5.70 (Sep 8 1993)
File 1--World Wide Web Newsletter Information
File 2--Big time hacker from the small town
File 3--Re: A Class Like None Other [revised]
File 4--Imaginary Government Reply to Jim Warren's Model Letter
File 5--'Zine Watch: CRYPT, GRAY AREAS and BOARDWATCH
File 6--Other BBSes Carrying CuD
File 7--Phrack now only available on the CuD shadow archives
File 8--EFF Position Opening--DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS
File 9--Canadian Document Database
File 10--UK Privacy International Conference
File 11--CALIF E-ACCESS BILL (AB #1624) PASSES!!!

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CONTENTS, #5.71 (Sep 12 1993)
File 1--Law enforcement in the Elansky case
File 2--The Elansky Case and the (edited) Anarchy Files Reprinted
File 3--More Non-Net Sources for CuDs, Phrack, etc

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CONTENTS, #5.72 (Sep 16 1993)
File 1--Still more on the Elansky/Hartford BBS Case
File 2--Thoughts on the Elansky Case - A Response
File 3--Attitude TV show about hackers in Australia
File 4--CuNews
File 5--CPSR Annual Meeting

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CONTENTS, #5.73 (Sep 19 1993)
File 1--U.S. Gov't Begins Attack on Moby Crypto
File 2--Phil Zimmermann's Comments on the Moby Crypto Incident
File 3--Crypto Witchhunt?
File 4--PRESS RELEASE--Clinton Appoints Sci/Tech Czars (satire)
File 5--Libertarian Responsibility of The Cyberpunk Movement (Reprint)
File 6--CuNews
File 7--Summary of Boys in front of Computers (Thesis)
File 8--UPDATE #30-AB1624: Gov Has Until Oct.10th
File 9--NETSYS.COM - Public Access availability

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CONTENTS, #5.74 (Sep 22 1993)
File 1--Phil Zimmerman Comments on Encryption Flap
File 2--NEW State Dept FLASH on Moby Clipper (Grady Ward)
File 3--"Secret Science"
File 4--Comment on Elansky BBS/Conn. Law
File 5--Fingerprinting Welfare Recipients
File 6--Gov't Computer Databases & Right to Privacy (Thesis Abst)
File 7--Revised WH E-mail FAQ

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CONTENTS, #5.75 (Sep 26 1993)
File 1--THE ANARCHISTS AMONGST US: Is PBS One of *THEM?*
File 2--Elansky/Hartford BBS Update, 25 Sept '93
File 3--Raising the Issue of Copyright on the Nets
File 4--Ethics of reposting
File 5--Number of CuD Articles
File 6--CuD Posting Policies and Processes (A Response)
File 7--September 29 BBLISA meeting]
File 8--The State of Security of Cyberspace (SRI Research Summary)

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CONTENTS, #5.76 (Sep 29 1993)
File 1--Bruce Sterling on ABC/Australia's Attitude (excerpts)
File 2--the Cyberspatial Copyright
File 3--Forum for Research on Virtual Culture
File 4--Computer-Mediated Comm Volume -- Call for Papers
File 5--Question EFF yielding of crypto authority to NIST
File 6--PGP/Zimmermann News Clippings Needed!
File 7--EFF's Comments to NIST on Encryption/Escrow
File 8--Three Cheers for Legal Action; Re: Mody Crypto
File 9--PumpCon II

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CONTENTS, #5.77 (Oct 3 1993)
File 1--Grady Ward DOES NOT Encourage Illegality
File 2--Response to Jerry Leichter in re Moby Crypto
File 3--EFF RESPONDS TO PGP CASE
File 4--Summary of BBLISA meeting (CuD 5.75)
File 5--E-Jrnl of Virtual Culture--Gender Issue Call For Papers
File 6--B. Sterling's Keynote address at EFF/EFF-Austin Crypt Conf
File 7--Summary of EFF/EFF-Austin Cryptography Conference

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CONTENTS, #5.78 (Oct 6 1993)
File 1--The Elansky Case (A Response to CuD's Editors)
File 2--CuD and the Elansky Case (Response to L. Detweiler)
File 3--CA state Legislative Info Bill
File 4--U. Minn. Campus Police Investigate Software Theft Ring
File 5--Computers & Writing Call for Proposals
File 6--ACTIVIST ALERT-CPSR Solicits CLIPPER/SKIPJACK comments

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CONTENTS, #5.79 (Oct 10 1993)
File 1--FOIA Releases  10-4-93
File 2--CPSR Key Escrow Comments
File 3--Sea Joins the Encryption Game
File 4--Re: ITAR and export regulations
File 5--Sexual harassment via computers (newspaper article).
File 6--The Net and Netizens (Paper)
File 7--E-mail Announcements From O'Reilly & Associates
File 8--A Few More CuD-Carrying BBSes
File 9--Survey: what harassment _is_ there on the Net?

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CONTENTS, #5.80 (Oct 13 1993)
File 1--CALIF AB1624 signed into law - PUBLIC INFO ACCESS!
File 2--Thanks to The folks who made AB1624 possible
File 3--Response to Cohen in re ITAR & Export Regs
File 4--Space computer hacker gets bond.
File 5--all eff.org machines moving 10/15-10/18
File 6--IGC Wins Public Interest Aw
File 7--Response to PGP Encryption Flap (RE:CuD 574)
File 8--Elansky/Hartford bbs Hearings - Case Continues


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CONTENTS, #5.81 (Oct 17 1993)
File 1--Another BBS/Bombing Connection (Ill.)
File 2--BBS "Porn" Bust in Oklahoma - Another LE Misstep?
File 3--A Few Biblio Items (Paulsen, Encryption, & P. Zimmerman)
File 4--Fourth Annual HOHOCON
File 5--"Hacker" Documentary Proposed
File 6--CuNews
File 7--Student Pugwash Conference
File 8--Response to CuD 5.80 - Itar article

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CONTENTS, #5.82 (Oct 20 1993)
File 1--Fair Info Practices with Comp. Supported Coop Work
File 2--LA Times does cyphertech; odds & ends
File 3--IGC Wins Social Responsibility Award
File 4--Full Description of Proposed "Hacker" Documentary"

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CONTENTS, #5.83 (Oct 24 1993)
File 1--CuD is taking TWO WEEKS OFF (Returning 7 November)
File 2--Elansky Accepts Plea Agreement (Hartford BBS update)
File 3--A Foreign Embassy Information Infrastructure
File 4--DES Broken?
File 5--Computers & Sustainable Society
File 6--Students Suspended For Electronic Documents
File 7--NOMA (Nat'l Online Media Association) BBS Org. Formed
File 8--A Reporter meets "cyberpunks" (news item)
File 9--"Cyber Comics" (Monterey Cty Coast Weekly Summary)
File 10--Belated response to F. Cohen (CuD 5.80)

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CONTENTS, #5.84 (Nov 7 1993)
File 1--Computers, Freedom, and Privacy '94 Conference
File 2--CFP '94 Scholarship Announcements
File 3--Korea 94: Call for Papers
File 4--CPSR NII Paper
File 5--DES: Broken!
File 6--NAFTA mandates software patents (fwd)
File 7--Phiber Optik Sentenced to One Year in Prison

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CONTENTS, #5.85 (Nov 10 1993)
File 1--Electronic 'Zine List

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CONTENTS, #5.86 (Nov 14 1993)
File 1--Details on Phiber Optik Sentencing (Newsbytes Reprint)
File 2--Sentencing in Elansky Case set for Nov. 19
File 3--BCS Community Technology Publication Available
File 4--NII Call for Action
File 5--On-Line Access to Gov't Info in Texas
File 6--CPSR NII Call for Action
File 7--DOS 6.2 BUG!!!

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CONTENTS, #5.87 (Nov 17 1993)
File 1--Mike Godwin's Letter to Judge Stanton (in re phiber optik)
File 2--Another Comment on Phiber sentencing
File 3--CuD Commentary on Phiber Optik Sentencing
File 4--CPSR Crypto Resolution
File 5--Operation "Root Canal"
File 6--ANNOUNCEMENT/Cyberculture Documenatary (fwd)
File 7--Internet Encyclopedia (Interpedia) group project/mailing list
File 8--Dos Bug (Re CuD 5.86)
File 9--Students Suspended For Electronic Documents
File 10--U.S. Law and the Constitution
File 11--DES Key Search Paper Available

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CONTENTS, #5.88 (Nov 21 1993)
File 1--Michael Elansky ("Ionizer") Sentenced / Saga ends
File 2--Electronic Bill Of Rights and Responsibilities
File 3--Student sues to regain Internet access
File 4--Toll Fraud on French PBXs--Phreaking
File 5--Brendan Kehoe
File 6--Advertise your skills!

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CONTENTS, #5.89 (Nov 28 1993)
File 1--Cyberspace and Social Struggle
File 2--Computers and the Poor: A Brand New Poverty
File 3--A Psychopunk's Manifesto
File 4--ANNOUNCEMENT: Markey Bill debuts in House
File 5--Response to Steshenko case (in re CuD 5.88)
File 6--What's a "CuD?"
File 7--CuD has Moved to a New LISTSERV at UIUC

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CONTENTS, #5.90 (Dec 1 1993)
File 1--Conference in Russia
File 2--HR 3627 - Export Controls on Cryptography Software
File 3--Psuedospoofed again
File 4--re: Student sues to regain Internet access (CuD 5.88)
File 5--Re: Cu Digeset, #5.89
File 6--Commentary on Cyber-issues in Elansky/Ionizer Sentence

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CONTENTS, #5.91 (Dec 5 1993)
File 1--Anarchy Gone Awry
File 2--PC Security books reprints material from AIS (Review)
File 3--Apple Computers bitten by Conservatives
File 4--GAO Report on Computers and Privacy
File 5--New Docs Reveal NSA Role in FBI Digital Tele Proposal
File 6--REMINDER: CFP '94 SCHOLARSHIP DEADLINE APPROACHING
File 7--DIAC-94 Call for Participation

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CONTENTS, #5.92 (Dec 8 1993)
File 1--Senator Simon Introduces Privacy Bill
File 2--Cantwell & Markey bills, GAO report, etc. online at EFF
File 3--ANNOUNCEMENT: DPSWG Crypto-Policy Statement to White House
File 4--A Superhighway Through the Wasteland?
File 5--Health Privacy Radio Program
File 6--Apple "Accepts" Texas Bigotry

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CONTENTS, #5.93 (Dec 12 1993)
File 1--Internet Resources -- U.S. Federal Gov't Information

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CONTENTS, #5.94 (Dec 15 1994)
File 1--EFF Policy on Cryptography and Privacy / 8 Dec '93
File 2--CPSR Clipper Letter to Clinton
File 3--EFF Statement on Markey Infrastructure Bill
File 4--Child Porn Bust in North Carolina
File 5--Complaints prompt Patent Office hearings on SOFTWARE PATENTS
File 6--Edited ASIS '94 Mid Year Meeting Announcement

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CONTENTS, #5.95 (Dec 19 1995)
File 1--CUMMULATIVE SUBJECT/TOPIC INDEX TO CuDS - Vols 1 to 4


       ==============  END CONTENTS, VOL 5  ===================

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End of Computer Underground Digest #6.01
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Subject: Brendan Kehoe critically injured in car accident (fwd)
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Subject:      Brendan Kehoe critically injured in car accident
To: Multiple recipients of list CUDIGEST <CUDIGEST@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu>

Brendan Kehoe, Cu Digest archivist at ftp.eff.org and author of
ZEN AND THE ART OF THE INTERNET, was critically injured in an
automobile accident in Pennsylvania on Friday, 31 December.  He
sustained massive head injuries, but on Monday, the prognosis for
his survival was "cautiously optimistic," according to his
brother. Tragically, the severity of the injuries will likely
produce permanent disability, although the nature and extent
remains uncertain at this time. Doctors expect that he will be
semi-comatose for at least two weeks.

The hospital is not allowing him to receive flowers or other
tangibles.  Cards may be sent to him at:

Brendan Kehoe
c/o Alice Kehoe
Penn Tower Hotel
Civic Center Blvd ad 34th Street
Philadelphia, PA  19104

Brendan will not be able to directly communicate for some time.
But, his brother and a few friends intend to set up a net-link to
keep people informed of his condition.


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Subject: Here come the data fascists (fwd)
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From owner-cypherpunks@toad.com Mon Jan  3 15:12:14 1994
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 14:53:16 -0800
From: Brad Dolan <bdolan@well.sf.ca.us>
Message-Id: <199401032253.OAA00394@well.sf.ca.us>
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Here come the data fascists

Well, here it comes guys:
---------------------------------------------------------------------

LET'S MAKE SURE GOVERNMENT STEERS DATA HIGHWAY IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION

San Jose Mercury News
Sunday, January 2, 1994

By LAWRENCE J. MAGID

(...)
Do we really need Al Gore, Bill Clinton, Congress, the FCC, the FTC and 
countless other bureaucracies meddling in this new industry?

The answer is a qualified yes. While industry will and should take the lead in
developing new products and services, it is the role of government to take the
long view to assure that these services are implemented in a way that is fair
and fruitful. We don't need unnecessary bureaucracies, but we also don't want
the educational equivalent of lead poisoning or data equivalent of gridlock. 
The government's role is especially crucial in a world where physical 
geographic borders are increasingly irrelevant. Think about the 
cybernetic equivalent of illegal immigration and smuggling. The Internet 
doesn't have border patrols to protect our intellectual property. The 
government must be involved, but, as the Vice President has promised,
it must also leave lots of room for both entrepreneurs and the corporate 
giants to play their hands.
 
(...)

Lawrence J. Magid writes a telecommunications column weekly for the Mercury 
News and is author of ''The Little PC Book, a Gentle Introduction to Personal
Computers.'' You can write to him via Mercury Center Online at LarryMagid or 
the Internet at magid@latimes.com.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Crypto?  Why that would make it impossible for the data police to do their 
jobs!  Anyway, only someone with something to hide would use crypto!

Try to hold 'em off with this one, it worked elsewhere for a while:  "When
crypto is outlawed, only outlaws will have crypto".

It's like listening to the raindrops at the start of a storm.  Corporate 
America just woke up and realized we have a good thing that it doesn't 
control.  It will soon rectify that.

Pessimistically yours,  bdolan@well.sf.ca.us







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Subject: sex lies and christianity
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A friend forwarded this to me. This would explain why Falwell, Swaggert, 
and a slew of other  xtains  are the way they are....

Kinda makes me want to go out and have screaming sex with anyone.....

Enjoy... 




> >From noring@netcom.com Tue Jan  4 15:07:35 MST 1994
> Article: 4 of alt.christnet.sex
> Xref: selway.umt.edu alt.christnet.sex:4 alt.sex:63497 soc.couples:8611
> Newsgroups: alt.christnet.sex,alt.sex,soc.couples
> Path: selway.umt.edu!netnews.nwnet.net!news.clark.edu!spool.mu.edu!sgiblab!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!netcomsv!netcom.com!noring
> From: noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring)
> Subject: You may like this!  Advice for the Young Bride
> Message-ID: <noringCJ0rCz.CDH@netcom.com>
> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 1994 20:24:35 GMT
> Lines: 147
> 
> Hello,
> 
> A while ago I pulled this off the net.  Some have said that this is a fake 
> and that it was written much later than 1894 (the evidence is that, to some,
> the language and wording sounds more modern);  however, several people have
> given me evidence to support that it is real.  Whether or not it is authentic,
> it does show how the Christian view of sex can get distorted from what the
> Bible teaches!  I do know real-life, so-called Christians who essentially
> believe what is written below.
> 
> Enjoy!
> 
> Jon Noring
> 
> ******************************************************************************
> 
> INSTRUCTION AND ADVICE FOR THE YOUNG BRIDE
> 
> On the Conduct and Procedure of the Intimate and Personal Relationships of 
> the Marriage State for the Greater Spiritual Sanctity of this Blessed Sacrament
> and the Glory of God by Ruth Smythers, beloved wife of the Reverend L.D.
> Smythers of the Arcadian Methodist Church of the Eastern Regional Conference.
> Published in the year of our Lord 1894, Spiritual Guidance Press, New York
> City.
> 
> To the sensitive young woman who has had benefits of proper upbringing, the
> wedding day is ironically, both the happiest and the most terrifying day of
> her life.  On the positive side, there is the wedding itself, in which the
> bride is the central attraction in a beautiful and inspiring ceremony, 
> symbolizing her triumph in securing a male to provide for all her needs for
> the rest of her life.  On the negative side, there is the wedding night,
> during which the bride must pay the piper, so to speak, by facing for the
> first time the terrible experience of sex.
> 
> At this point, dear reader, let me concede one shocking truth.  Some young
> women actually anticipate the wedding night with curiousity and pleasure!
> Beware such an attitude!  A selfish and sensual husband can easily take
> advantage of such a bride.  One cardinal rule of marriage should never be
> forgotten:  GIVE LITTLE, GIVE SELDOM, AND ABOVE ALL, GIVE GRUDGINGLY.
> Otherwise, what could have been a proper marriage could become an orgy of
> sexual lust.
> 
> On the other hand, the bride's terror need not be extreme.  While sex is 
> at best revolting and at worse rather painful, it has to be endured, and 
> has been by women since the beginning of time, and is compensated for by
> the monogamous home and by the children produced through it.
> 
> It is useless, in most cases, for the bride to prevail upon the groom to 
> forego the sexual initiation.  While the ideal husband would be one who would
> approach his bride only at her request and only for the purpose of begetting 
> offspring, such nobility and unselfishness cannot be expected from the
> average man.
> 
> Most men, if not denied, would demand sex almost every day.  The wise bride
> will permit a maximum of two brief sexual experiences weekly during the first
> months of marriage.  As time goes by she should make every effort to reduce
> this frequency.
> 
> Feigned illness, sleepiness, and headaches are among the wife's best friends
> in this matter.  Arguements, nagging, scolding, and bickering also probe
> very effective, if used in the late evening about an hour before the husband
> would normally commence his seduction.
> 
> Clever wives are ever on the alert for new and better methods of denying
> and discouraging the amorous overtures of the husband.  A good wife should
> expect to have reduced sexual contacts to one a week by the end of the
> first year of marriage.
> 
> By the tenth anniversary many wives have managed to complete their child
> bearing and have achieved the ultimate goal of terminating all sexual
> contacts with the husband.  By this time she can depend upon his love for
> the children and social pressure to hold the husband in the home.
> 
> Just as she should be ever alert to keep the quantity of sex as low as
> possible, the wise bride will pay equal attention to limiting the kind and
> degree of sexual contacts.  Most men are by nature rather perverted, and 
> if given half a chance, would engage in quite a variety of the most revolting
> practices.  These practices include among others performing the normal act
> in abnormal positions: mouthing the female body: and offering their own
> vile bodies to be mouthed in turn.
> 
> Nudity, talking about sex, reading stories about sex, viewing photographs
> and drawings depicting or suggesting sex are other obnoxious habits the 
> male is likely to aquire if permitted.
> 
> A wise bride will make it her goal never to allow her husband to see her
> unclothed body, and never allow him to display his unclothed body to her.
> Sex, when it cannot be prevented, should be practiced only in total darkness.
> Many women have found it useful to have thick cotton nightgowns for
> themselves and pajamas for their husbands.  These should be donned in
> seperate rooms.  They need not be removed during the sex act.  Thus, a 
> minimum of flesh is exposed.
> 
> Once a bride has donned her gown and turned off all the lights, she should
> lie quietly upon the bed and await her groom.  When he comes groping into
> the room she should make no sound to guide him in her direction, lest he
> take this as a sigh of encouragement.  She should let him grope in the
> dark.  There is always the hope that he will stumble and incur some slight
> injury which she can use as an excuse to deny him sexual access.
> 
> When he finds her; the wife should lie as still as possible.  Bodily motion
> on her part could be interpreted as sexual excitement by the optimistic
> husband.
> 
> If he attempts to kiss her on the lips she shuld turn her head slightly so
> that the kiss falls harmlessly on her cheek instead.  If he attempts to kiss
> her anyplace else she should quickly pull the gown back in place, spring 
> from the bed, and announce that nature calls her to the toilet.  This will
> generally dampen his desire to kiss in the forbidden territory.
> 
> If the husband attempts to seduce her with lascivious talk, the wise wife
> will suddenly remember some trivial nonsexual question to ask him.  Once
> he answers she should keep the conversation going, no matter how frivolous
> it may seem at the time.
> 
> Eventually, the husband will learn that if he insists on having sexual
> contact, he must get on with it without amorous embellishment.  The wise
> wife will allow him to pull the gown up no farther than the waist, and only
> permit him to open the front of his pajamas to thus make connection.
> 
> She will be absolutely silent or babble about her housework while he is
> huffing and puffing away.  Above all, she will lie perfectly still and 
> never under any circumstances grunt or groan while the act is in progress.
> 
> As soon as the husband has completed the act the wise wife will start nagging
> him about various minor tasks she wishes him to perform on the 'morrow. Many
> men obtain a major portion of their sexual satisfaction from the peaceful
> exhaustion immediately after the act is over.  Thus the wife must insure 
> that there is no peace in this period from him to enjoy.  Otherwise, he
> might be encouraged to soon try for more.
> 
> One heartening factor for which the wife can be grateful is the fact that
> the husband's home, school, church and social environment have been working
> together all through his life to instill in him a deep sense of guilt in 
> regardst to his sexual feelings, so that he comes to the marriage couch
> apologetically and subdued.  The wise wife seizes upon this advantage and 
> relentlessly pursues her goal first to limit, later to annihilate completely,
> her husband's desire for sexual expression.
> 
> ****end of tract****
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> If you are an INFJ, then join the INFJ mailing list - ask me for more details.
> If you don't know what INFJ means, ask me, and I'll send more info (46Kb file).
> =============================================================================
> | Jon Noring          | noring@netcom.com        | "Fanny Hill" and other   |
> | JKN International   | IP    : 192.100.81.100   | famous literary works in |
> | 1312 Carlton Place  | Phone : (510) 294-8153   | Windows 3.1 Help format  |
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> 
> 
> 
> 


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From owner-cypherpunks@toad.com Thu Jan  6 01:16:39 1994
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 94 03:10:46 -0600
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L.A. Times
Jan. 3, 1994
p. D1

THAT'S WHAT HE GETS FOR COMPLAINING

    SAN FRANCISCO - Apple Computer Inc., after receiving a
complaint from famed scientist Carl Sagan, has changed the
internal code name for an upcoming model to "Butt-Head
Astronomer" from "Carl Sagan," the San Francisco Chronicle
reported.
    Sagan asked the company to stop using his name after an
article about the new computer appeared in MacWeek magazine, the
newspaper said.
    The Computer is one of three Apple models that will use the
PowerPC microprocessor, which was developed by an alliance of
Apple, Motorola Inc. and International Business Machines Corp.
    For those of tender sensibilities, Butt-Head Astronomer will
be known as BHA for short.

   -Bloomberg Business News


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From: flesh (Flesh)
From: nobody@rosebud.ee.uh.edu

L.A. Times
Jan. 3, 1994
p. D1

THAT'S WHAT HE GETS FOR COMPLAINING

    SAN FRANCISCO - Apple Computer Inc., after receiving a
complaint from famed scientist Carl Sagan, has changed the
internal code name for an upcoming model to "Butt-Head
Astronomer" from "Carl Sagan," the San Francisco Chronicle
reported.
    Sagan asked the company to stop using his name after an
article about the new computer appeared in MacWeek magazine, the
newspaper said.
    The Computer is one of three Apple models that will use the
PowerPC microprocessor, which was developed by an alliance of
Apple, Motorola Inc. and International Business Machines Corp.
    For those of tender sensibilities, Butt-Head Astronomer will
be known as BHA for short.

   -Bloomberg Business News




-- 
 Tom Jennings -- tomj@wps.com -- World Power Systems --  San Francisco, Calif.

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I know it's of local usefulness only... just FYI...


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From verve@well.sf.ca.us Thu Jan  6 13:38:58 1994
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Subject: Jacked In 93/Year in Review
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THE JACKED-IN YEAR IN REVIEW

Welcome to 1994!  You're receiving this message via the Jacked-In
mailing list, which I run as part of the Jacked In/Cyberspace Literacy
series at Modern Times Bookstore in San Francisco.  You're on this list
because you asked to be, or because you spoke or are scheduled to speak
at one of these events.

If you'd like to be taken off the list, or if you know someone who'd
like to be on the list, jacked-in-request@well.sf.ca.us is the address
to write to.

This message contains one piece of sad news, announcements of the first
two events of 1994, and a recap of 1993.

The sad news is that Brendan Kehoe, author of ZEN AND THE ART OF THE
INTERNET, and a Cygnus Support engineer, was critically injured in an
automobile accident in Pennsylvania on Friday, 31 December, 1993.
Cygnus has created an online way of finding out how Brendan is doing --
finger brendan-news@cygnus.com -- and the latest news is very good.
He's talking, recognizing friends and family, and eating solid food.
He was moved out of intensive care on Monday of this week.

Your prayers, thoughts, and beams are appreciated, and you can send
cards and other items to Brendan c/o:

  Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania
  Silberstein Pavilion, Room 920
  3400 Spruce St.
  Philadelphia, PA 19104

With today's glut of Internet how-tos, it's easy to forget that just a
few short years ago, there was almost nothing available to help people
use the Internet.  Brendan's online version of Zen was a lifesaver when
it appeared, and the book version was one of the first to market.

Brendan himself appeared at the end of one of my Internet crash courses
(the one where Sharon Fisher spoke), modestly introducing himself, and
expressing enthusaism for what we were doing with the series.

Best wishes for a speedy recovery, Brendan!


We'll have two authors coming in during January.
 
	Sunday, January 16 * 7:30 p.m.
	Jacking In/A Series on Cyberspace Literacy presents:
	JOHN S. QUARTERMAN, The Internet Connection: System
	  Connectivity and Configuration

	Whether it's installing connections, showing people why they'd
	want to be connected, or documenting the growth of the
	networks, John Quarterman (The Internet Connection, The Matrix,
	Matrix News, Matrix Maps Quarterly) has his fingers on the
	pulse of the net like no one else.  John will talk about the
	growth and commercialization of the Internet, with a special
	focus on soho (small office, home office) networking.  $3-$5
	sliding scale.

 
	Sunday, January 30 * 7:30 p.m.
	Jacking In/A Series on Cyberspace Literacy presents:
	LINDA JACOBSON, Garage Virtual Reality
	 
	Linda Jacobson (CyberArts: Exploring Art and Technology)
	returns to Modern Times in celebration of her new book, Garage
	Virtual Reality (Sams 1993).  Linda brings with her a
	multimedia presentation on low cost, low tech entries to
	cyberspace for the artist, the tinkerer, the visionary.  $3-$5
	sliding scale.


Finally, for posterity's sake, I wanted to post a recap of all the
events we did in 1993.  Going down the list, it's amazing to see the
amount of territory we covered.  And I'm pleased to say that BAIL --
Bay Area Internet Literacy -- had two successful Internet workshops at
the end of 1993 and will continue to offer Internet and telecom training
on a monthly basis throughout the area.  The next BAIL event will be at
Climate Theater on Sunday, January 23rd, from 1 to 5.  Press relase on
that to follow.

Thanks again to everyone who's supported the Jacked In series thus far;
speakers, audience, and others who've come through in a pinch to supply
equipment and brainpower.

Best wishes to all of you for a prosperous 1994!

--Eric Theise/verve@well.sf.ca.us

1993 Jacked In events included:
Feb  7: NAVIGATING THE INTERNET: A CRASH COURSE (Theise)
Mar  7: LAW AND DISORDER ON THE ELECTRONIC FRONTIER (Bruce Sterling,
        John Draper, Mitch Ratcliffe, Mike Godwin)
Apr 21: WRITING DOWN THE NETS: CREATIVE LIT IN CYBERSPACE (Will Kreth,
        Tom Maddox, Jerod Pore, Patrizia DiLucchio, Bill Knutson)
May 19: ONLINE COMMUNITIES AROUND THE BAY: THE INNS AND THEIR KEEPERS
        (Gail Ann Williams, Alex Liberman, Wayne Gregori, John Coate)
Jun 16: USING USENET: an alt talk on sci and biz, soc and rec (Theise)
Jun 27: CYBERARTS: EXPLORING ART AND TECHNOLOGY (Mark Petrakis, Mark
        Trayle, Linda Jacobson)
Jul 11: MASTERING YOUR MESSAGING: AN E-MAIL TUTORIAL (Theise)
Aug  8: ACTIVISM ONLINE: Global Communications at PeaceNet, EcoNet,
        LaborNet, and ConflictNet (Howard Frederick, Michael Stein)
Sep 19: NAVIGATING THE INTERNET: A CRASH COURSE (Theise, Sharon Fisher)
Sep 21: THE METAPHYSICS OF VIRTUAL REALITY (Michael Heim)
Oct 17: USING USENET: A Crash Course (Theise)
Oct 22: THE VIRTUAL COMMUNITY: Homesteading on the Electronic Frontier"
        (Howard Rheingold)
Nov 14: OFF-CENTER ELECTRIC (WARNING: CONTAINS EXPLICIT THOUGHTS)
	(Richard Kadrey, Jon Lebkowsky, Paco Xander Nathan, Jerod Pore)
Nov 21: WOMEN ONLINE: TO LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY IN CYBERSPACE (Susan
	Adrian, Hoai-An Truong, Judi Clark, Reva Basch) 
Dec 12: THE ONLINE USER'S ENCYCLOPEDIA: BULLETIN BOARDS AND BEYOND
	(Bernard Aboba)

--
  Eric S. Theise <verve@well.sf.ca.us>
  P.O. Box 460177, San Francisco, CA 94146.0177
  Internet Domain Editor, Millennium Whole Earth Catalog
  The WELL: internet, matrix, & news conference host + gophermeister



-- 
 Tom Jennings -- tomj@wps.com -- World Power Systems --  San Francisco, Calif.

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>From one of Eric Thiese's announcements of events at Modern Times
bookstore here in SF. Which you've probavbly seen before on this list.

John will talk about the growth and commercialization of the Internet,
with a special focus on soho (small office, home office) networking.
                        ^^^^

Egads! Circular references, or what! Is this a cooincidence? Consider
the meaning/value "soho" has taken on in the last 20 years, and
this new? acronymic usage... coincidence? No. It's just too tightly
fitted to the whole upscaley imagery thing. Ha ha, very punny.

Shit like this scares me.


-- 
 Tom Jennings -- tomj@wps.com -- World Power Systems --  San Francisco, Calif.

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It was bound to happen....


John Wayne Gacy's death date has now been set for may 10th of this year. 
In the case that you don't know who Gacy is, he's everyones favorite 
serial killer clown (for further information, check out your local 
library). The chances of clemency and/or a stay are....well, you'll 
probably see a pack of tap dancing polar bears on Market street first.

So with this in mind, on May 10th a "Farwell Johnny" party will be held. 
The exact place is still unknown, as to that I juts found out about the 
date, but do please make plans on attending anyways.



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Subject: punk, and geek
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Don't ask me how, but I was walking down market street, and for some 
reason I began trying to think up punk song with obscure (or obvious) 
computer references in them. I talked to Tom about this....

This is what we've come up with. Feel free to add to it.

Black Flag- SLIP it in
Buzzcocks- Operations Manual
Gary Neuman- Me, I disconnect from you
Throbbing Gristle- IBM
Husker Du- Powerline

That's it so far.


And please....

The Clash's That's No Way To Spend Your Youth, doesn't count.

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At the moment, in the electronic universe section of the gopher (this may 
change on a whim, just because.) you'll find a option that's called Moral 
Decay MUD. Firstly, MUD stands for Multi User Dungen. In short, it's a 
computerized D&D game. Woopie. There's other one simular. to MUDs. 
Mushes, mucks, etc etc. They all have two things in common. All are 
incredibly uncreative. All are incredibly boring, and all are time 
wasters, except one. Moral decay stands heads and shoulders above other 
MUDs. There are several things that make it different than most. Firstly, 
it's the only all-player run game that I know of. Secondly, players set 
up businesses and actually have a micro economy happening. Thirdly, it's 
extremly bizzare. Extremely, is actually an undersatatment. Let me show 
you. On most Muds, (most are either star trek or D&D based. Yawn.) you 
see and do the following....

>you see a Romulan
aim phaser at Romulan
>OK
set phaser on kill
>OK
kill romulan
>Romulan is dead

Woooopie.

On Moral decay, you can do the following...

Kill Bambi
Kill Thumper
Kill prostitutes
Kill roaches, rats, and crickets
Kill happy fuckin' elves
Kill other players
Kill yourself
fondle other players
fondle yourself
shout 
scream
dance

When you get damage (your arm, leg, whatever) you can either sit around 
like a total moron, while you heal, or drink large ammount of alcohol to 
heal yourself up (BTW, in order to make the alcohol, players must dump 
the dead corpses they have into a processor that turns the rotting flesh 
into alcohol). 

There are a lot of other things that make this game really interesting as 
well. However, you should check it out for yourself. What you want to do, 
is logon as 'guest' this will give you access to the demonstration 
charicter. After you've done this, go as far south as you can, and then 
go over two spots west. This will put you in the Comfortably Numbs bar. 
Feel free to ask people questions (to do this simple type say (whatever 
you want to say), and most of the regulars will be glad to answer any 
questions you may have (if they don't kill you). Be warned though. This 
game is an incredible time waster, as well as being incredibly addicting.

Try it out anyways.



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Yeah yeah yeah.

I know. Lots of messages from me. Sorry if I'm filling your mailboxes 
with stuff. I'm catching up on stuff, and this is one of them. This is a 
short intro to those on the list who aren't framiliar with PGP. PGP is an 
encryption program that makes files unreadable by anyone other than the 
people that it's intended for, and/or yourself. you can find out more 
about it, by either accessing the pgp option in the gopher here on 
wps.com (select the about-pgp, or why-you-need-pgp selections), or you 
can simply type pgp at the prompt, or you can ask questions via this list. 
In any case, it's not that bad of an idea to generate yourself up a key. 
You never know when you'll need it. ;)

Here's mine. you can also get my key by fingering me as well.

w00f!


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> >sorry, folks. just couldn`t pass up the chance tp pass this along.
> >
> >- ----
> >
> >From: strnlght@netcom.com
> >Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
> >Subject: (none)
> >Date: 4 Jan 94 02:41:56 GMT
> >
> >
> >        __________________
> >  ---- |                | |-\_
> >-----  |                | | |_\      \ O /           <---Me
> >  ---- |                |_|   |        |
> >       ^^oo^^^^^^^^^oo^^^ o^^o^      _/ \_
> >--
> >David Sternlight         When the mouse laughs at the cat,
> >                         there is a hole nearby.--Nigerian Proverb
> >
> 


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Subject: jesus fucking CHRIST!!!!
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>                                                           BS'D
> 	 	REFUTING MISSIONARIES:
>  
>                                             by Hayyim ben Yehoshua
> 
> 	PART 1:  THE MYTH OF THE HISTORICAL JESUS
> 
> 	Much concern has been expressed in the Jewish media
> regarding the activity of "Jews for Jesus" and other missionary
> organizations who go out of their way to convert Jews to
> Christianity.  Unfortunately, many Jews are ill-equipped to deal
> with Christian missionaries and their arguments.  Hopefully this
> article will contribute to remedying this situation.
> 
> 	When countering Christian missionaries it is important
> to base one's arguments on correct facts.  Arguments based on
> incorrect facts can easily backfire and end up strengthening the
> arguments of the missionaries.
> 
> 	It is rather unfortunate that many well meaning Jewish
> Studies teachers have unwittingly aided missionaries by teaching
> Jewish pupils incorrect information about the origins of
> Christianity.  I can recall being taught the following story
> about Jesus at the Jewish day school which I attended:  
> 
>    	"Jesus was a famous first century rabbi whose
>    Hebrew name was Rabbi Yehoshua.  His father was a carpenter
>    named Joseph and his mother's name was Mary.  Mary became
>    pregnant before she married Joseph.  Jesus was born in a
>    stable in Bethlehem during a Roman census.  Jesus grew up
>    in Nazareth and became a learned rabbi.  He travelled all
>    over Israel preaching that people should love one another. 
>    Some people thought that he was the Messiah and he did not
>    deny this which made the other rabbis very angry.  He
>    caused so much controversy that the Roman governor Pontius
>    Pilate had him crucified.  He was buried in a tomb and
>    later his body was found to be missing since it had
>    probably been stolen by his disciples."
> 
> 	A few years after being taught this seemingly innocent
> story, I became interested in the origins of Christianity and
> decided to do some further reading on the "famous Rabbi
> Yehoshua."  Much to my dismay, I discovered that there was no
> historical evidence of this Rabbi Yehoshua.  The claim that
> Jesus was a rabbi named Yehoshua and the claim that his body was
> probably stolen both turned out to be pure conjecture.  The rest
> of the story was nothing more than a watered down version of the
> story which Christians believe as part of the Christian religion
> but which is not supported by any legitimate historical source. 
> There was absolutely no historical evidence that Jesus, Joseph
> or Mary ever existed, let alone that Joseph was a carpenter or
> that Jesus was born in Bethlehem and lived in Nazareth.
> 
> 	Despite the lack of evidence for Jesus's existence many
> Jews have made the tragic mistake of assuming that the New
> Testament story is largely correct and have tried to refute
> Christianity by attempting to rationalize the various miracles
> that allegedly occured during Jesus's life and after his death.
> Numerous books have been written which take this approach to
> Christianity.  This approach however is hopelessly flawed and is
> in fact dangerous since it encourages belief in the New
> Testament.
> 
> 	When the Israelites were confronted with the worship of
> Baal they did not blindly accept the ancient West Semitic myths
> as history.  When the Maccabees were confronted with Greek
> religion they did not blindly accept Greek mythology as history.
> Why do so many modern Jews blindly accept Christian mythology?
> The answer to this question seems to be that many Christians do
> not know themselves where the distinction between established
> history and Christian belief lies and they have passed their
> confusion on to the Jewish community.  Browsing through the
> religion section of a local bookshop, I recently came across a
> book which claimed to be an objective biography of Jesus.  It
> turned out to be nothing more than a summary of the usual New
> Testament story.  It even included claims that Jesus's miracles
> had been witnessed but that rational explanations for them might
> exist.  Many history books written by Christians take a similar
> approach.  Some Christian authors will suggest that perhaps the
> miracles are not completely historical but they nevertheless
> follow the general New Testament story.  The idea that there was
> a real historical Jesus has thus become entrenched in Christian
> society and Jews living in the Christian world have come to
> blindly accept this belief because they have never seen it
> seriously challenged.
> 
> 	Despite the widespread belief in Jesus the fact remains
> that there is no historical Jesus.  In order to understand what
> is meant by an "historical Jesus," consider King Midas in Greek
> mythology.  The story that King Midas turned everything he
> touched into gold is clearly nonsense, yet despite this we know
> that there was a real King Midas.  Archaeologists have excavated
> his tomb and found his skeletal remains.  The Greeks who told
> the story of Midas and his golden touch clearly intended people
> to identify him with the real Midas.  So although the story of
> the golden touch is fictional, the story is about a person whose
> existence is known as a fact - the "historical Midas."  In the
> case of Jesus, their is however, no single person whose
> existence is known as a fact and who is also intended to be the
> subject of the Jesus stories, i.e.  there is no historical
> Jesus.
> 
> 	When confronted by a Christian missionary, one should
> immediately point out that *the very existence of Jesus has not
> been proven*.  When missionaries argue they usually appeal to
> emotions rather than to reason and they will attempt to make you
> feel embarrassed about denying the historicity of Jesus.  The
> usual response is something like _"Isn't denying the existence
> of Jesus just as silly as denying the existence of Julius Caesar
> or Queen Elizabeth?"_.  A popular variation of this response
> used especially against Jews is _"Isn't denying the existence of
> Jesus like denying the Holocaust?"_ One should then point out
> that there are ample historical sources confirming the existence
> of Julius Caesar, Queen Elizabeth or whoever else is named,
> while there is no corresponding evidence for Jesus.
> 
> 	To be perfectly thorough you should take time to do some
> research on the historical personalities mentioned by the
> missionaries and present hard evidence of their existence.  At
> the same time you should challenge the missionaries to provide
> similar evidence of Jesus's existence.  You should point out
> that although the existence of Julius Caesar or Queen Elizabeth
> etc, is accepted worldwide, the same is not true of Jesus.  In
> the Far East where the major religions are Buddhism, Shintoism,
> Taoism and Confucism, Jesus is considered to be just another
> character in Western religious mythology, on a par with Thor,
> Zeus and Osiris.  Most Hindus do not believe in Jesus, but those
> who do consider him to be one of the many avatars of the Hindu
> god Vishnu.  Muslims certainly believe in Jesus but they reject
> the New Testament story and consider him to be a prophet who
> announced the coming of Muhammed.  They explicitly deny that he
> was ever crucified. 
> 
> 	To sum up, there is no story of Jesus which is uniformly
> accepted worldwide.  It is this fact which puts Jesus on a
> different level to established historical personalities.  If the
> missionaries use the "Holocaust reply," you should point out
> that the Holocaust is well-documented and that there are
> numerous eyewitness reports.  It should be pointed out that most
> of the people who deny the Holocaust have turned out to be
> antisemitic hate-mongers with fraudulent credentials. On the
> other hand, millions of honest people in Asia, who make up the
> majority of the world's population, have failed to be convinced
> by the Christian story of Jesus since there is no compelling
> evidence for its authenticity.  The missionaries will insist
> that the story of Jesus is a well-established fact and will
> argue that there is "plenty of evidence supporting it"_. One
> should then insist on seeing this evidence and refuse to listen
> any further until they produce it.
> 
> 	If Jesus was not an historical person, where did the
> whole New Testament story come from in the first place?  The
> Hebrew name for Christians has always been _Notzrim_.  This name
> is derived from the Hebrew word _neitzer_ which means a shoot or
> sprout - an obvious Messianic symbol.  There were already people
> called Notzrim at the time of Rabbi Yehoshua ben Perachyah (c. 
> 100 B.C.E.).  Although modern Christians claim that Christianity
> only started in the first century C.E., it is clear that the
> first century Christians in Israel considered themselves to be a
> continuation of the Notzri movement which had been in existence
> for about 150 years.  One of the the most notorious Notzrim was
> Yeishu ben Pandeira, also known as Yeishu ha-Notzri.  Talmudic
> scholars have always maintained that the story of Jesus began
> with Yeishu.  The Hebrew name for Jesus has always been Yeishu
> and the Hebrew for "Jesus the Nazarene" has always been "Yeishu
> ha-Notzri."  (The name Yeishu is a shortened form of the name
> Yeishua, not Yehoshua.) It is important to note that Yeishu
> ha-Notzri is not an historical Jesus since modern Christianity
> denies any connection between Jesus and Yeishu and moreover,
> parts of the Jesus myth are based on other historical people
> besides Yeishu.
> 
> 	We know very little about Yeishu ha-Notzri.  All modern
> works that mention him are based on information taken from the
> Tosefta and the Baraitas - writings made at the same time as the
> Mishna but not contained in it.  Because the historical
> information concerning Yeishu is so damaging to Christianity,
> most Christian authors (and even some Jewish ones) have tried to
> discredit this information and have invented many ingenious
> arguments to explain it away.  Many of their arguments are based
> on misunderstandings and misquotations of the Baraitas and in
> order to get an accurate picture of Yeishu one should ignore
> Christian authors and examine the Baraitas directly.
> 
> 	The skimpy information contained in the Baraitas is as
> follows:  Rabbi Yehoshua ben Perachyah once repelled Yeishu with
> both hands.  People believed that Yeishu was a sorcerer and they
> considered him to be a person who had led the Jews astray.  As a
> result of charges brought against him (the details of which are
> not known, but which probably involved high treason) Yeishu was
> stoned and his body hung up on the eve of Passover.  Before this
> he was paraded around for forty days with a herald going in
> front of him announcing that he would be stoned and calling for
> people to come forward to plead for him.  Nothing was brought
> forward in his favour however.  Yeishu had five disciples:
> Mattai, Naqai, Neitzer, Buni, and Todah.
> 
> 	In the Tosefta and the Baraitas, Yeishu's father is
> named Pandeira or Panteiri.  These are Hebrew-Aramaic forms of a
> Greek name.  In Hebrew the third consonant of the name is
> written either with a dalet or a tet.  Comparison with other
> Greek words transliterated into Hebrew shows that the original
> Greek must have had a delta as its third consonant and so the
> only possibilty for the father's Greek name is Panderos.  Since
> Greek names were common among Jews during Hashmonean times it is
> not necessary to assume that he was Greek, as some authors have
> done.
> 
> 	The connection between Yeishu and Jesus is corroborated
> by the the fact that Mattai and Todah, the names of two of
> Yeishu's disciples, are the original Hebrew forms of Matthew and
> Thaddaeus, the names of two of Jesus's disciples in Christian
> mythology.
> 
> 	The early Christians were also aware of the name "ben
> Pandeira" for Jesus.  The pagan philosopher Celsus, who was
> famous for his arguments against Christianity, claimed in 178
> C.E.  that he had heard from a Jew that Jesus's mother, Mary,
> had been divorced by her husband, a carpenter, after it had been
> proved that she was an adultress.  She wandered about in shame
> and bore Jesus in secret.  His real father was a soldier named
> Pantheras.  According to the Christian writer Epiphanius (c. 
> 320 - 403 C.E.), the Christian apologist Origen (c.185 - 254
> C.E.) had claimed that "Panther" was the nickname for Jacob the
> father of Joseph, the stepfather of Jesus.  It should be noted
> that Origen's claim is not based on any historical information. 
> It is purely a conjecture aimed at explaining away the Pantheras
> story of Celsus.  That story is also not historical.  The claim
> that the name of Jesus's mother was Mary and the claim that her
> husband was a carpenter is taken directly from Christian belief.
> The claim that Jesus's real father was named Pantheras is based
> on an incorrect attempt at reconstructing the original form of
> Pandeira.  This incorrect reconstruction was probably influenced
> by the fact that the name Pantheras was found among Roman
> soldiers.
> 
> 	Why did people believe that Jesus's mother was named
> Mary and her husband named Joseph?  Why did non-Christians accuse
> Mary of being an adultress while Christians believed she was a
> virgin?  To answer these questions one must examine some of the
> legends surrounding Yeishu.  We cannot hope to obtain the
> absolute truth concerning the origins of the Jesus myth but we
> can show that reasonable alternatives exist to blindly accepting
> the New Testament.
> 
> 	The name Joseph for Jesus's stepfather is easy to
> explain.  The Notzri movement was particulary popular with the
> Samaritan Jews.  While the Pharisees were waiting for a Messiah
> who would be a descendant of David, the Samaritans wanted a
> Messiah who would restore the northern kingdom of Israel.  The
> Samaritans emphasized their partial descent from the tribes of
> Ephraim and Manasseh, who were descended from the Joseph of the
> Torah.  The Samaritans considered themselves to be "Bnei Yoseph"
> i.e.  "sons of Joseph," and since they believed that Jesus had
> been their Messiah, they would have assumed that he was a "son
> of Joseph."  The Greek speaking population, who had little
> knowledge of Hebrew and true Jewish traditions could have easily
> misunderstood this term and assumed that Joseph was the actual
> name of Jesus's father.  This conjecture is corroborated by the
> fact that according to the _Gospel of Matthew_, Joseph's father
> is named Jacob, just like the Torah Joseph.  Later, other
> Christians, who followed the idea that the Messiah was to be
> descended from David, tried to trace Joseph back to David.  They
> came up with two contradictory genealogies for him, one recorded
> in _Matthew _ and the other in _Luke_.  When the idea that Mary
> was a virgin developed, the mythical Joseph was relegated to the
> position of simply being her husband and the stepfather of
> Jesus.
> 
> 	To understand where the Mary story came from we have to
> turn to another historical character who contributed to the
> Jesus myth, namely ben Stada.  All the information we have on
> ben Stada again comes from the Tosefta and the Baraitas.  There
> is even less information about him than about Yeishu:  Some
> people believed that he had brought spells out of Egypt in a cut
> in his flesh, others thought that he was a madman.  He was a
> beguiler and was caught by the method of concealed witnesses. 
> He was stoned in Lod.
> 
> 	In the Tosefta, ben Stada is called ben Sotera or ben
> Sitera.  Sotera seems to be the Hebrew-Aramaic form of the Greek
> name Soteros.  The forms "Sitera" and "Stada" seem have arisen
> as misreadings and spelling mistakes (yod replacing vav and
> dalet replacing reish).
> 
> 	Since there was so little information concerning ben
> Stada, many conjectures arose as to who he was.  It is known
> from the Gemara that he was confused with Yeishu.  This probably
> resulted from the fact that both were executed for treasonous
> teachings and were associated with sorcery.  People who confused
> ben Stada with Yeishu had to explain why he was also called ben
> Pandeira.  Since the name "Stada" resembles the Aramaic
> expression "stat da," meaning "she went astray" it was thought
> that "Stada" referred to the mother of Yeishu and that she was
> an adultress.  Consequently, people began to think that Yeishu
> was the illegitimate son of Pandeira.  These ideas are in fact
> mentioned in the Gemara and are probably much older.  Since ben
> Stada lived in Roman times and the name Pandeira resembled the
> name Pantheras found among Roman soldiers, it was assumed that
> Pandeira had been a Roman soldier stationed in Israel.  This
> certainly explains the story mentioned by Celsus.
> 
> 	The Tosefta mentions a famous case of a woman named
> Miriam bat Bilgah marrying a Roman soldier.  The idea that
> Yeishu had been born to a Jewish woman who had had an affair
> with a Roman soldier probably resulted in Yeishu's mother being
> confused with this Miriam.  The name "Miriam" is of course the
> original form of the name "Mary."  It is in fact known from the
> Gemara that some of the people who confused Yeishu with ben
> Stada believed that Yeishu's mother was "Miriam the women's
> hairdresser."
> 
> 	The story that Mary (Miriam) the mother of Jesus was an
> adultress was certainly not acceptable to the early Christians.
> The virgin birth story was probably invented to clear Mary's
> name.  The early Christians did not suck this story out of their
> thumbs.  Virgin birth stories were farely common in pagan myths.
> The following mythological characters were all believed to be
> have been born to divinely impregnated virgins:  Romulus and
> Remus, Perseus, Zoroaster, Mithras, Osiris-Aion, Agdistis,
> Attis, Tammuz, Adonis, Korybas, Dionysus.  The pagan belief in
> unions between gods and women, regardless of whether they were
> virgins or not, is even more common.  Many characters in pagan
> mythology were believed to be sons of divine fathers and human
> females.  The Christian belief that Jesus was the son of G-d
> born to a virgin, is typical of Greco-Roman superstition.  The
> Jewish philosopher, Philo of Alexandria (c. 30 B.C.E - 45 C.E.),
> warned against the widespread superstitious belief in unions
> between male gods and human females which returned women to a
> state of  virginity.
> 
> 	The god Tammuz, worshipped by pagans in northern Israel,
> was said to have been born to the virgin Myrrha.  The name
> "Myrrha" superficially resembles "Mary/Miriam" and it is
> possible that this particular virgin birth story influenced the
> Mary story more than the others.  Like Jesus, Tammuz was always
> called Adon, meaning "Lord."  (The character Adonis in Greek
> mythology is based on Tammuz.) As we will see later, the
> connection between Jesus and Tammuz goes much further than this.
> 
> 	The idea that Mary had been an adultress never
> completely disappeared in Christian mythology.  Instead, the
> character of Mary was split into two:  Mary the mother of Jesus,
> believed to be a virgin, and Mary Magdalene, believed to be a
> woman of ill repute.  The idea that the character of Mary
> Magdalene is also derived from Miriam the mythical mother of
> Yeishu, is corroborated by the fact that the strange name
> "Magdalene" clearly resembles the Aramaic term "mgadla nshaya"
> meaning "womens' hairdresser."  As mentioned before, there was a
> belief that Yeishu's mother was "Miriam the women's
> hairdresser."  Because the Christians did not know what the name
> "Magdalene" meant, they later conjectured that it meant that she
> had come from a place called Magdala on the west of Lake
> Kinneret.  The idea of the two Marys fitted in well with the
> pagan way of thinking.  The image of Jesus being followed by the
> two Marys is strongly reminiscent of Dionysus being followed by
> Demeter and Persephone.
> 
> 	The Gemara contains an interesting legend concerning
> Yeishu which attempts to elucidate the Beraita which says that
> Rabbi Yehoshua ben Perachyah repelled Yeishu with both hands.
> The legend claims that when the Hashmonean king Yannai was
> killing the Pharisees, Rabbi Yehoshua and Yeishu fled to Egypt.
> When returning they came upon an inn.  The Aramaic word
> "aksanya" means both "inn" or "innkeeper."  Rabbi Yehoshua
> remarked how beautiful the "aksanya" was (meaning the inn). 
> Yeishu (meaning the innkeeper) replied that her eyes were too
> narrow.  Rabbi Yehoshua was very angry with Yeishu and
> excommunicated him.   Yeishu asked many times for forgiveness
> but Rabbi Yehoshua would not forgive him.  Once when Rabbi
> Yehoshua was reciting the Shema, Yeishu came up to him.  He made
> a sign to him that he should wait.  Yeishu misunderstood and
> thought that he was being rejected again.  He mocked Rabbi
> Yehoshua by setting up a brick and worshipping it.  Rabbi
> Yehoshua told him to repent but he refused to, saying that he
> had learned from him that anyone who sins and causes many to
> sin, is not given the opportunity to repent.
> 
> 	The above story, up to the events at the inn, closely
> resembles another legend in which the protagonist is not Rabbi
> Yehoshua but his disciple Yehuda ben Tabbai.  In this legend,
> Yeishu is not named.  One may thus question whether Yeishu
> really went to Egypt or not.  It is possible that Yeishu was
> confused with some other disciple of either Rabbi Yehoshua or
> Rabbi Yehuda.  The confusion might have resulted from the fact
> that Yeishu was confused with ben Stada who had returned from
> Egypt. On the other hand, Yeishu might have really fled to Egypt
> and returned, and this in turn could have contributed to the
> confusion between Yeishu and ben Stada.  Whatever the case, the
> belief that Yeishu fled to Egypt to escape being killed by a
> cruel king, appears to be the origin of the Christian belief
> that Jesus and his family fled to Egypt to escape King Herod.
> 
> 	Since the early Christians believed that Jesus had lived
> in Roman times it is natural that they would have confused the
> evil king who wanted to kill Jesus with Herod, since there were
> no other suitable evil kings during the Roman period.  Yeishu
> was an adult at the time that the rabbis fled from Yannai; why
> did the Christians believe that Jesus and his family had fled to
> Egypt when Jesus was an infant?  Why did the Christians believe
> that Herod had ordered all baby boys born in Bethlehem to be
> killed, when there is no historical evidence of this?  To answer
> these questions we again have to look at pagan mythology.
> 
> 	The theme of a divine or semi-divine child who is feared
> by an evil king is very common in pagan mythology.  The usual
> story is that the evil king receives a prophecy that a certain
> child will be born who will usurp the throne.  In some stories
> the child is born to a virgin and usually he is son of a god.
> The mother of the child tries to hide him.  The king usually
> orders the slaying of all babies who might be the prophecied
> king.  Examples of myths which follow this plot are the birth
> stories of Romulus and Remus, Perseus, Krishna, Zeus, and
> Oedipus.  Although Torah literalists will not like to admit it,
> the story of Moses's birth also resembles these myths (some of
> which claim that the mother put the child in a basket and placed
> him in a river).  There were probably several such stories
> circulating in the Levant which have been lost.  The Christian
> myth of the slaughter of the innocents by Herod is simply a
> Christain version of this theme.  The plot was so well known
> that one Midrashic scholar could not resist using it for an
> apocryphal account of Abraham's birth.
> 
> 	The early Christians believed that the Messiah was to be
> born in Bethlehem.  This belief is based on a misunderstanding
> of Micah _ 5.2 which simply names Bethlehem as the town where
> the Davidic lineage began.  Since the early Christians believed
> that Jesus was the Messiah, they automatically believed that he
> was born in Bethlehem.  But why did the Christians believe that
> he lived in Nazareth?  The answer is quite simple.  The early
> Greek speaking Christians did not know what the word "Nazarene"
> meant. The earliest Greek form of this word is "Nazoraios,"
> which is derived from "Natzoriya," the Aramaic equivalent of the
> Hebrew "Notzri."  (Recall that "Yeishu ha-Notzri" is the
> original Hebrew for "Jesus the Nazarene.") The early Christians
> conjectured that "Nazarene" meant a person from Nazareth and so
> it was assumed that Jesus lived in Nazareth.  Even today,
> Christians blithely confuse the Hebrew words "Notzri" (_
> Nazarene_, _Christian_), "Natzrati" _Nazarethite_) and "nazir"
> (_nazarite_), all of which have completely different meanings.
> 
> 	The information in the Talmud (which contains the
> Baraitas and the Gemara), concerning Yeishu and ben Stada, is so
> damaging to Christianity that Christians have always taken
> drastic measures against it.  When the Christians first
> discovered the information they immediately tried to wipe it out
> by censoring the Talmud.  The Basle edition of the Talmud (c.
> 1578 - 1580) had all the passages relating to Yeishu and ben
> Stada deleted by the Christians.  Even today, editions of the
> Talmud used by Christian scholars lack these passages!
> 
> 	During the first few decades of this century, fierce
> academic battles raged between atheist and Christian scholars
> over the true origins of Christianity.  The Christians were
> forced to face up to the Talmudic evidence.  They could no
> longer ignore it and so they decided to attack it instead.  They
> claimed that the Talmudic Yeishu was a distortion of the
> "historical Jesus."  They claimed that the name "Pandeira" was
> simply a Hebrew attempt at pronouncing the Greek word for virgin
> - "parthenos."  Although there is a superficial resemblence
> between the words, one should note that in order for "Pandeira"
> to be derived from "parthenos," the "n" and "r" have to be
> interchanged.  However, the Jews did not suffer from any speech
> impediment which would cause this to happen!  The Christian
> response is that possibly the Jews purposefully altered the word
> "parthenos" to either the name "Pantheras" (found in Celsus's
> story) or to "pantheros" meaning a panther, and "Pandeira" is
> derived from the deliberately altered word.  This argument also
> fails since the third consonent of both the altered and
> unaltered "parthenos" is theta.  This letter is always
> transliterated by the Hebrew letter tav, whose pronunciation
> during classical times most closely resembled that of the Greek
> letter.  However, the name "Pandeira" is never spelled with a
> tav but with either a dalet or a tet which show that the
> original Greek form had a delta as its third consonant, not a
> theta.  The Christian argument can also be turned on its head: 
> maybe the Christians deliberately altered "Pantheras" to
> "parthenos" when they invented the virgin birth story.  It
> should also be noted that the resemblence between "Pantheras"
> (or  "pantheros") and "parthenos" is actually much less when
> written in Greek since in the original Greek spelling their
> second vowels are completely different.
> 
> 	The Christians also did not accept that Mary Magdalene
> was connected to Miriam the alleged mother of Yeishu in the
> Talmud.  They argued that the name "Magdalene" does mean a
> person from Magdala and that the Jews evented "Miriam the womens
> hairdresser _mgadla nshaya_)" either to mock the Christians, or
> out of their own misunderstanding of the name "Magdalene."  This
> argument is also false.  Firstly, it ignores Greek grammar:  the
> correct Greek for "of Magdala" is "Magdales" and the correct
> Greek for a person from Magdala is "Magdalaios."  The original
> Greek root of "Magdalene" is "Magdalen-" with a conspicuous "n"
> showing that the word has nothing to do with Magdala.  Secondly,
> Magdala only got its name after the Gospels were written. 
> Before that it was called Magadan or Dalmanutha.  (Although
> "Magadan" has an "n," it lacks an "l" and so it cannot be the
> derivation of "Magdalene.") In fact, the ruins of this area were
> renamed Magdala by the Christian community because they believed
> that Mary Magdalene had come from there.
> 
> 	The Christians also claimed that the word "Notzri" means
> a person from Nazareth.  This is of course false since the
> original Hebrew for Nazareth is "Natzrat" and a person from
> Nazareth is a "Natzrati."  The name "Notzri" lacks the letter
> tav from "Natzrat" as so it cannot be derived from it.  The
> Christians argue that perhaps the Aramaic name for Nazareth was
> "Natzarah" or "Natzirah" (like the modern Arabic name) which
> explains the missing tav in "Notzri."  This is also nonsense
> since the Aramaic word for a person from Nazareth would then be
> "Natzaratiya" or "Natziratiya" (with a tav since the feminine
> ending "-ah" would become "-at-" when the suffix "-iya" is
> added), and besides, the Aramaic form would not be used in
> Hebrew.  The Christians also came up with various other
> arguments which can be dismissed since they confuse the Hebrew
> words "Notzri" and "nazir" or ignore the fact that "Notzri" is
> the earliest form of the word "Nazarene."
> 
> 	To sum up, all the Christian arguments were based on
> impossible phonetic changes and grammatical forms, and were
> consequently dismissed.  Moreover, although the legends in the
> Gemara cannot be taken as fact, the evidence in the Baraitas and
> Tosefta concerning Yeishu can be traced back directly to
> Yehoshua ben Perachyah, Shimon ben Shetach and Yehuda ben Tabbai
> and their disciples who were contemporaries of Yeishu, while the
> evidence in the Baraitas and Tosefta concerning ben Stada can be
> traced to Rabbi Eliezer ben Hyrcanus and his disciples who were
> ben Stada's contempories.  Consequently the evidence can be
> regarded as historically accurate.  Therefore modern Christians
> no longer attack the Talmud but instead deny any connection
> between Jesus and Yeishu or ben Stada.  They dismiss the
> similarities as pure coincidence.  However, one must still be
> aware of the false attacks on the Talmud since many Christian
> books still mention them and they can and do resurface from time
> to time.
> 
> 	Many parts of the Jesus story are not based on Yeishu or
> ben Stada.  Most Christian denominations claim that Jesus was
> born on 25 December.  Originally the eastern Christains believed
> that he was born on 6 January.  The Armenian Christians still
> follow this early belief while most Christians consider it to be
> the date of the visit of the Magi.  As pointed out already,
> Jesus was probably confused with Tammuz born of the virgin
> Myrrha.  We know that in Roman times, the gods Tammuz, Aion and
> Osiris were identified.  Osiris-Aion was said to be born of the
> virgin Isis on the 6 January and this explains the earlier date
> for Christmas.  Isis was sometimes represented as a sacred cow
> and  her temple as a stable which is probably the origin of the
> Christian belief that Jesus was born in a stable.  Although some
> might find this claim to be farfetched, it is known as a fact
> that certain early Christian sects identified Jesus and Osiris
> in their writings.  The date of 25 December for Christmas was
> originally the pagan birthday of the sun god, whose day of the
> week is still known as *Sun*_day.  The halo of light which is
> usually shown surrounding the face of Jesus and Christian
> saints, is another concept taken from the sun god.
> 
> 	The theme of temptation by a devil-like creature was
> also found in pagan mythology.  In particular the story of
> Jesus's temptation by Satan resembles the temptation of Osiris
> by the devil-god Set in Egyptian mythology.
> 
> 	We have already hinted that there was also a connection
> between Jesus and the pagan god Dionysus.  Like Dionysus, the
> infant Jesus was wrapped in swaddling clothes and placed in a
> manger; like Dionysus, Jesus could turn water into wine; like
> Dionysus, Jesus rode on an ass and fed a multitude in the
> wilderness; like Dionysus, Jesus suffered and was mocked.  Some
> early Christians claimed that Jesus had in fact been born, not
> in a stable, but in a cave - just like Dionysus.
> 
> 	Where did the story that Jesus was crucified come from?
> It appears to have resulted from a number of sources.  Firstly
> there were three historical characters during the Roman period
> who people thought were Messiahs and who were crucified by the
> Romans, namely.  Yehuda of Galilee (6 C.E.), Theudas (44 C.E.)
> and Benjamin the Egyptian (60 C.E.).  Since these three people
> were all thought to be the Messiah, they were naturally confused
> with Yeishu and ben Stada.  Yehuda of Galilee had preached in
> Galilee and had collected many followers before being crucified
> by the Romans.  The story of Jesus's ministry in Galilee appears
> to be based on the life of Yehuda of Galilee.  This story and
> the belief that Jesus lived in Nazareth in Galilee, reinforced
> each other.  The belief that some of Jesus's disciples were
> killed in c. 44 C.E.  by Agrippa appears to be based the fate of
> Theudas's disciples.  Since ben Stada had come from Egypt it is
> natural that he would have been confused with Benjamin the
> Egyptian.  They were probably also contempories.  Even some
> modern authors have suggested that they were the same person,
> although this is not possible since the stories of their deaths
> are completely different.  In the New Testament book of _Acts_,
> which uses Josephus's book _ Jewish Antiquities_ (93 - 94 C.E.)
> as a reference, it is made clear that the author considered
> Jesus, Yehuda of Galilee, Theudas and Benjamin the Egyptian, to
> be four different people.  However, by that time it was too late
> to undo the confusions which had already taken place before the
> New Testament was written, and the idea of Jesus's crucifixion
> had become an integral part of the myth.
> 
> 	Secondly, the idea arose that Jesus had been executed on
> the eve of Passover.  This belief is apparently based on
> Yeishu's execution.  Passover occurs at the time of the Vernal
> Equinox, an event considered important by astrologers during the
> Roman Empire.  The astrologers thought of this time as the time
> of the crossing of two astrological celestial circles, and this
> event was symbolized by a cross.  Thus there was a belief that
> Jesus had died on "the cross."  The misunderstanding of this
> term by those who were not initiated into the astrological
> cults, was another factor contributing to the belief that Jesus
> was crucified.  In one of the earliest Christian documents (the 
> _Teaching of the Twelve Apostles_) there is no mention of Jesus
> being crucified yet the sign of a cross in the sky is used to
> represent Jesus's coming.  It should be noted that the centre of
> astrological superstition in the Roman Empire was the city of
> Tarsus in Asia Minor - the place where the legendary missionary
> Paul came from.  The idea that a special star had heralded the
> birth of Jesus, and that a solar eclipse occured at his death,
> is typical of Tarsian astrological superstition.
> 
> 	The third factor contributing to the crucifixion story
> is again pagan mythology.  The theme of a divine or semi-divine
> being sacrificed against a tree, pole or cross, and then being
> resurrected, is very common in pagan mythology.  It was found in
> the mythologies of all western civilizations stretching from as
> far west as Ireland and as far east as India.  In particular it
> is found in the mythologies of Osiris and Attis, both of whom
> were often identified with Tammuz.  Osiris landed up with his
> arms stretched out on a tree like Jesus on the cross.  This tree
> was sometimes shown as a pole with outstretched arms - the same
> shape as the Christian cross.  In the worship of Serapis (a
> composite of Osiris and Apis) the cross was a religious symbol. 
> Indeed, the Christian "Latin cross" symbol seems to be based
> directly on the cross symbol of Osiris and Serapis.  The Romans
> never used this traditional Christian cross for crucifixions,
> they used crosses shaped either like an X or a T.  The
> hieroglyph of a cross on a hill was associated with Osiris.  
> This heiroglyph stood for the "Good One," in Greek "Chrestos," a
> name applied to Osiris and other pagan gods.  The confusion of
> this name with "Christos (= Messiah, Christ)" strengthened the
> confusion between Jesus and the pagan gods.
> 
> 	At the Vernal Equinox, pagans in northern Israel would
> celebrate the death and resurrection of the virgin born
> Tammuz-Osiris.  In Asia Minor (where the earliest Christian
> churches were established) a similar celebration was held for
> the virgin born Attis.  Attis was shown as dying against a tree,
> being buried in a cave and then being resurrected on the third
> day.  We thus see where the Christian story of Jesus's
> resurrection comes from.  In the worship of Baal, it was
> believed that Baal cheated Mavet (the god of death) at the time
> of the Vernal Equinox.  He pretended to be dead but later
> appeared alive.  He accomplished this ruse by giving his only
> son as a sacrifice.
> 
> 	The occurence of Passover at the same time of year as
> the pagan "Easter" festivals is not coincidental.  Many of the
> Pessach customs were designed as Jewish alternatives to pagan
> customs.  The pagans believed that when their nature god (such
> as Tammuz, Osiris or Attis) died and was resurrected, his life
> went into the plants used by man as food.  The matza made from
> the spring harvest was his new body and the wine from the grapes
> was his new blood.  In Judaism, matza, was not used to represent
> the body of a god but the poor man's bread which the Jews ate
> before leaving Egypt.  The pagans used the paschal sacrifice to
> represent the sacrifice of a god or his only son, but Judaism
> used it to represent the meal eaten before leaving Egypt.  
> Instead of telling stories about Baal sacrificing his first born
> son to Mavet, the Jews told how _mal'ach ha-mavet_ (the angel of
> death) slew the first born sons of the Egyptians.  The pagans
> ate eggs to represent the resurrection and rebirth of their
> nature god, but the egg on the seder plate represents the
> rebirth of the Jewish people escaping captivity in Egypt.  When
> the early Christians noticed the similarities between Pessach
> customs and pagan customs, they came full circle and converted
> the Pessach customs back to their old pagan interpretations.  
> The seder became the last supper of Jesus, similar to the last
> supper of Osiris commemorated at the Vernal Equinox.  The matza
> and wine once again became the body and blood of a false god,
> this time Jesus.  Easter eggs are again eaten to commemorate the
> resurrection of a "god" and also the "rebirth" obtained by
> accepting his sacrifice on the cross.
> 
> 	The Last Supper myth is particularly interesting.  As
> mentioned, the basic idea of last supper occuring at the Vernal
> Equinox comes from the story of the last supper of Osiris.  In
> the Christian story, Jesus is present with twelve apostles.  
> Where did the story of the twelve apostles come from?  It appears
> that in its earliest version, the story was understood to be an
> allegory.  The first time that twelve apostles are mentioned is
> in the document known as the _Teaching of the Twelve Apostles_. 
> This document apparently originated as a sectarian Jewish
> document written in the first century C.E., but it was adopted
> by Christians who altered it substantially and added Christian
> ideas to it.  In the earliest versions it is clear that the
> "twelve apostles" are the twelve sons of Jacob representing the
> twelve tribes of Israel.  The Christians later considered the
> "twelve apostles" to be allegorical disciples of Jesus.
> 
> 	In Egyptian mythology, Osiris was betrayed at his last
> supper by the evil god Set, whom the Greeks identified with
> Typhon.  This seems to be the origin of the idea that Jesus's
> betrayer was present at his last supper.  The idea that this
> betrayer was named "Judas" goes back to the time when the twelve
> apostles were still understood to be the sons of Jacob.  The
> idea of Judas (= Judah, Yehuda) betraying Jesus (the "son" of
> Joseph) is strongly reminiscent of the story of the Torah Joseph
> being betrayed by his brothers with Yehuda as the ringleader.
> This allegory would have been particulary appealing to the
> Samaritan Notzrim who considered themselves to be sons of Joseph
> betrayed by mainstream Jews (represented by Judas/Yehuda).
> 
> 	However, the story of the twelve apostles lost its
> original allegorical interpretation and the Christians began to
> think that the "twelve apostles" were twelve real people who
> followed Jesus.  The Christians attempted to find names for
> these twelve apostles.  Matthew and Thaddaeus were based on
> Mattai and Todah, two of Yeishu's disciples.  One or both of the
> apostles named Jacobus (James) is possibly based on Jacob of
> Kfar Sekanya, an early Christian known to Rabbi Eliezer ben
> Hyrcanus, but this is just a guess.  As we have seen, the
> character of Judas is mostly based on the Judah of the Torah but
> there might also be a connection with Yeishu's contemporary,
> Yehuda ben Tabbai the disciple of Rabbi Yehoshua ben Perachyah. 
> As already mentioned, the idea of the betrayer at the last
> supper is derived from the mythology of Osiris who was betrayed
> by Set-Typhon.  Set-Typhon had red hair and this is probably the
> origin of the claim that Judas had red hair.  This idea has led
> to the Christian stereotypical portrayel of Jews as having red
> hair, despite the fact that in reality, red hair is far more
> common among Aryans than among Jews.
> 
> 	Judas is often given the nickname "Iscariot."  In some
> places where English New Testaments have "Iscariot," the Greek
> text actually has "apo Kariotou" which means "from Karyot."  
> Karyot was the name of a town in Israel, probably the modern
> site known in Arabic as Karyatein.  We thus see that the name
> Iscariot is derived from the Hebrew "ish Karyot" meaning "man
> from Karyot."  This is in fact the accepted modern Christian
> understanding of the name.  However, in the past, the Christians
> misunderstood this name and legends arose that Judas was from
> the town of _Sychar_, that he was a member of the extremist
> party known as the _Sicarii_ and that he was from the tribe of
> _Issacher_.   The most interesting misunderstanding of the name
> is its early confusion with the word _scortea_ meaning a leather
> money bag.  This led to the New Testament myth that Judas
> carried such a bag, which in turn led to the belief that he was
> the treasurer of the apostles.
> 
> 	The apostle Peter appears to be a largely fictitious
> character.  According to Christian mythology, Jesus chose him to
> be the "keeper of the keys to the kingdom of heaven."  This is
> clearly based on the Egyptian pagan deity, Petra, who was the
> door-keeper of heaven and the afterlife ruled over by Osiris.  
> We must also doubt the story of Luke "the good healer" who was
> supposed to be a friend of Paul.  The original Greek for "Luke"
> is "Lykos" which was another name for Apollo, the god of
> healing.
> 
> 	John the Baptist is largely based on an historical
> person who practised ritual immersion in water as a physical
> symbol for repentence.  He did not perform Christian style
> sacramental baptisms to cleanse people's souls - such an idea
> was totally foreign to Judaism.  He was put to death by Herod
> Antipas who feared that he was about to start a rebellion.  
> John's name in Greek was "Ioannes" and in Latin "Johannes."  
> Although these names were usually used for the Hebrew name
> Yochanan, it is unlikely that this was John's actual Hebrew
> name.  "Ioannes" closely resembles "Oannes" the Greek name for
> the pagan god Ea.  Oannes was the "God of the House of Water."  
> Sacramental baptism for magically cleansing souls, was a
> practice which apparently originated in the worship of Oannes.  
> The most likely explanation of John's name and its connection
> with Oannes is that John probably bore the nickname "Oannes"
> since he practised baptism which he had adapted from the worship
> of Oannes.  The name "Oannes" was later confused with "Ioannes."
> (In fact, the New Testament legend concerning John provides a
> clue that his real name might have been Zacharia.) It is known
> from Josephus's writings that the historical John rejected the
> pagan "soul-cleansing" interpretation of baptism.  The
> Christians, however, returned to this original pagan
> interpretation.
> 
> 	The god Oannes was associated with the constellation
> Capricorn.  Both Oannes and the constellation Capricorn were
> associated with water.  (The constellation is supposed to depict
> a mythical sea-creature with the body of a fish and the
> foreparts of a goat.) We have already seen that Jesus was given
> the same birthday as the sun god (25 December), when the sun is
> in the constellation of Capricorn.  The pagans thought of this
> period as one where the sun god is immersed in the waters of
> Oannes and emerges reborn.  (The Winter Solstice, when days
> start getting longer, occurs near 25 December.) This
> astrological myth is apparently the origin of the story that
> Jesus was baptised by John.  It probably started as an
> allegorical astrological story, but it appears that the god
> Oannes later became confused with the historical person 
> nicknamed Oannes (John).
> 
> 	The belief that Jesus had met John contributed to the
> belief that Jesus's ministry and crucifixion occured when
> Pontius Pilate was procurator of Judaea.  It should be noted
> that most dates for Jesus quoted by Christians are completely
> nonsense.  Jesus was partly based on Yeishu and ben Stada who
> probably lived more than a century apart.  He was also based on
> the three false Messiahs, Yehuda, Theudas and Benjamin, who were
> crucified by the Romans at various different times.  Another
> fact that contributed to confused dating of Jesus was that Jacob
> of Kfar Sekanya and probably other Notzrim as well, used 
> expressions like "thus was I taught by Yeishu ha-Notzri," even
> though he had not been taught by Yeishu in person.  We know from
> the Gemara that Jacob's statement led Rabbi Eliezer ben Hyrcanus
> to incorrectly conclude that Jacob was a disciple of Yeishu.  
> This suggests that there were rabbis who were unaware of the
> fact that Yeishu had lived in Hashmonean times.  Even after
> Christians placed Jesus in the first century C.E., confusion
> continued among non-Christians.  There was a contempory of Rabbi
> Akiva named Pappus ben Yehuda who used to lock up his unfaithful
> wife.  We know from the Gemara that some people who confused
> Yeishu and ben Stada, confused the wife of Pappus with Miriam
> the unfaithful mother of Yeishu.  This would place Yeishu more
> than two centuries after he actually lived!
> 
> 	The New Testament story confuses so many historical
> periods that there is no way of reconciling it with history.  
> The traditional year of Jesus's birth is 1 C.E.  Jesus was
> supposed to be not more than two years old when Herod ordered
> the slaughter of the innocents.  However, Herod died before 12
> April 4 B.C.E.  This has led some Christians to redate the birth
> of Jesus in 6 - 4 B.C.E.  However, Jesus was also supposed have
> been born during the census of Quirinius.  This census took
> place after Archelaus was deposed in 6 C.E., ten years after
> Herod's death.  Jesus was supposed to have been baptised by John
> soon after John had started baptising and preaching in the
> fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberias i.e.  28 - 29 C.E., when
> Pontius Pilate was governer of Judaea i.e.  26 - 36 C.E.  
> According to the New Testament, this also happened when Lysanias
> was tetrarch of Abilene and Annas and Caiaphas were high
> priests.  But Lysanias ruled Abilene from c. 40 B.C.E until he
> was executed in 36 B.C.E by Mark Antony, about 60 years before
> the date for Tiberias and about 30 years before the supposed
> birth of Jesus!  Also, there were never two joint high priests,
> in particular, Annas was not a joint high priest with Caiaphas. 
> Annas was removed from the office of high priest in 15 C.E
> after holding office for some nine years.  Caiaphas only became
> high priest in c. 18 C.E, about three years after Annas.  (He
> held this office for about eighteen years, so his dates are
> consistent with Tiberias and Pontius Pilate, but not with Annas
> or Lysanias.) Although the book of _Acts_ presents Yehuda of
> Galilee, Theudas and Jesus as three different people, it
> incorrectly places Theudas (crucified 44 C.E.) before Yehuda who
> it correctly mentions as being crucified during the census (6
> C.E.).  Many of these chronological absurdities seem to be based
> on misreadings and misunderstandings of Josephus's book _Jewish
> Antiquities _which was used as reference by the author of _Luke_
> and _Acts_.
> 
> 	The story of Jesus's trial is also highly suspicious.  
> It clearly tries to placate the Romans while defaming the Jews. 
> The historical Pontius Pilate was arrogant and despotic. He
> hated the Jews and never delegated any authority to them.  
> However, in Christian mythology, he is portrayed as a concerned
> ruler who distanced himself from the accusations against Jesus
> and who was coerced into obeying the demands of the Jews.  
> According to Christian mythology, every Passover, the Jews would
> ask Pilate to free any one criminal they chose.  This is of
> course a blatant lie.  Jews never had a custom of freeing guilty
> criminals at Passover or any other time of the year.  According
> the myth, Pilate gave the Jews the choice of freeing Jesus the
> Christ or a murderer named Jesus Barabbas.  The Jews are alleged
> to have enthusiastically chosen Jesus Barabbas.  This story is a
> vicious antisemitic lie, one of many such lies found in the New
> Testament (largely written by antisemites).  What is
> particularly disgusting about this rubbish story is that it is
> apparently a distortion of an earlier story which claimed that
> the Jews demanded that Jesus Christ be set free.  The name
> "Barabbas" is simply the Greek form of the Aramaic "bar Abba"
> which means "son of the Father."  Thus "Jesus Barabbas"
> originally meant "Jesus the son of the Father," in other words,
> the usual Christian Jesus.  When the earlier story claimed that
> the Jews wanted Jesus Barabbas to be set free it was referring
> to the usual Jesus.  Somebody distorted the story by claiming
> that Jesus Barabbas was a different person to Jesus Christ and
> this fooled the Roman and Greek Christians who did not know the
> meaning of the name "Barabbas."
> 
> 	Lastly, the claim that the resurrected Jesus appeared to
> his disciples is also based on pagan superstition.  In Roman
> mythology, the virgin born Romulus appeared to his friend on the
> road before he was taken up to heaven.  (The theme of being
> taken up to heaven is found in scores of pagan myths and legends
> and even in Jewish stories.) It was claimed that Apollonius of
> Tyana had also appeared to his disciples after having been
> resurrected.  It is interesting to note that the historical
> Apollonius was born more or less at the same time as the
> mythical Jesus was supposed to have been born.  In legends
> people claimed that he had performed many miracles which were
> identical to those also ascribed to Jesus, such as exorcisms of
> demons and the raising to life of a dead girl.
> 
> 	When confronted with Christian missionaries one should
> point out as much information as possible about the origins of
> Christianity and the Jesus myth.  You will almost never succeed
> in convincing them that Christianity is a false religion.  You
> will not be able to prove beyond all doubt that the story of
> Jesus arose in the way we have claimed it has, since most of the
> evidence is circumstancial.  Indeed we cannot be certain about
> the precise origin of many particular points in the story of
> Jesus.  This does not matter.  What is important is that you
> yourself realize that logical alternatives exist to blind belief
> in Christian myths and that reasonable doubt can be cast on the
> New Testament narrative.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 		REFUTING MISSIONARIES:
> 
> 	PART 2:  THE LACK OF HISTORICAL EVIDENCE FOR JESUS
> 
> 
> 	The usual Christian response to those who question the
> historicity of Jesus is to palm off various documents as
> "historical evidence" for the existence of  Jesus.  They usually
> start with the canonical gospels of _Matthew_, _Mark_, _Luke_
> and _John_.  The usual claim is that these are "_eyewitness
> accounts of the life of Jesus made by his disciples_."   The
> reply to this argument can be summed up in one word -
> *pseudepigraphic*.  This term refers to works of writing whose 
> authors conceal their true identities behind the names of
> legendary characters  from the past.  Pseudepigraphic writing
> was particularly popular among the Jews  during Hashmonean and
> Roman periods and this style of writing was adopted by  the
> early Christians.
> 
> 	The canonical gospels are not the only gospels.  For
> example, there are also gospels of _Mary_, _Peter_, _Thomas_ and
> _Philip_.  These four gospels are recognized as being
> pseudepigraphic by both Christian and non-Christian scholars.  
> They provide no legitimate historical information since they
> were based on rumours and belief.  The existence of these
> obviously pseudepigraphic gospels makes it quite reasonable to
> suspect that the canonical gospels might also be
> pseudepigraphic. The very fact that early Christians wrote
> pseudepigraphic gospels suggests that this was in fact the norm.
> It is thus the missionaries' claim that the canonical gospels
> are *not* pseudepigraphic which requires proof.
> 
> 	The _Gospel of Mark_ is written in the name of Mark, the
> disciple of the mythical Peter.  (Peter is largely based on the
> pagan god Petra, who was door-keeper of heaven and the afterlife
> in Egyptian religion.) Even in Christian mythology, Mark was not
> a disciple of Jesus, but a friend of Paul and Luke.  _Mark_ was
> written before _Matthew and _Luke_ (c. 100 C.E.) but after the
> destruction of the Temple in 70 C.E.  which it mentions.   Most
> Christians believe it was written in c. 75 C.E.  This date is
> not based on history but on the belief that an historical Mark
> wrote the gospel in his old age.  This is not possible since the
> style of language used in _ Mark_ shows that it was written
> (probably in Rome) by a Roman convert to Christianity whose
> first language was Latin and not Greek, Hebrew or Aramaic.
> Indeed, since all the other gospels are written in the name of 
> legendary characters from the past, _Mark_ was probably written
> long after any historical Mark (if there was one) had died.  The
> contents of _Mark_ is a collection of myths and legends put
> together to form a continuous narrative.  There is no evidence
> that it was based on any reliable historical sources.  _Mark was
> altered and edited many times and the modern version probably
> dates to about 150 C.E.  Clement of Alexandria (c. 150 C.E.  -
> c. 215 C.E.) complained about the alternative versions of this
> gospel which were still circulating in his lifetime. (The
> Carpocratians, an early Christian sect, considered paederasty to
> be a virtue and Clement complained about their versions of _Mark_
> which told of Jesus's homosexual exploits with young boys!)
> 
> 	The _Gospel of Matthew_ was certainly not written by the
> apostle Matthew.  The character of Matthew is based on the
> historical person named Mattai who was a disciple of Yeishu ben
> Pandeira.   (Yeishu, who lived in Hashmonean times, was one of
> several historical people upon whom the character Jesus is
> based.) The _Gospel of Matthew _ was originally anonymous and
> was only assigned the name _Matthew_ some time during the first
> half of the second century C.E.  The earliest form was probably
> written at more or less the same time as the _Gospel of Luke_
> (c. 100 C.E.) since neither seems to know of the other.  It was
> altered and edited until about 150 C.E.  The first two chapters,
> dealing with the virgin birth, were not in the original version
> and the Christians in Israel of Jewish descent prefered this
> earlier version.  For its sources it used _Mark_ and a
> collection of teachings referred to as the _Second Source_ (or
> the _Q Document_).  The _Second Source_ has not survived as a
> separate document, but its full contents are found in _Matthew_
> and _Luke_.  All the teachings contained in it can be found in
> Judaism.  The more reasonable teachings can be found in
> mainstream Judaism, while the less reasonable ones can be found
> in sectarian Judaism.  There is nothing in it which would
> require us to suppose the existence of a real historical Jesus.
> Although _ Matthew_ and _Luke_ attribute the teachings in it to
> Jesus, the _Epistle of James_ attributes them to James.  Thus
> _Matthew_ provides no historical evidence for Jesus.
> 
> 	The _Gospel of Luke_ and the book of _Acts_ (which were
> two parts of a single work) were written in the name of the
> Christian mythological character Luke the healer (who was
> probably not an historical person but a Christian adaptation of
> the Greek healer god Lykos).  Even in Christian mythology, Luke
> was not a disciple of Jesus but a friend of Paul.  _Luke_ and _
> Acts_ use Josephus's _Jewish Antiquities_ as a reference, and so
> they could not have been written before 93 C.E.  At this time,
> any friend of Paul would be either dead or well into senility.  
> Indeed, both Christian and non-Christian scholars agree that the
> earliest versions of the two books were written by an anonymous
> Christian in c. 100 C.E and were altered and edited until c. 150
> - 175 C.E.  Besides Josephus's book, _Luke_ and _Acts _also use
> the _Gospel of Mark_, and the _Second Source_ as references.
> Although Josephus is considered to be more or less reliable, the
> anonymous author often misread and misunderstood Josephus and
> moreover, none of the information about Jesus in _Luke_ and
> _Acts _ comes from Josephus.  Thus _Luke _and _Acts_ is of no
> historical value.
> 
> 	The _Gospel of John_ was written in the name of the
> apostle John the brother of James, son of Zebedee.  The author
> of Luke used as many sources as he could get hold of but hewas
> unaware of _John_.  Thus _John could not have been written
> before _Luke (c. 100 C.E.) Consequently _John_ could not have
> been written by the semi-mythical character John the Apostle who
> was supposed to have been killed by Herod Agrippa shortly before
> his own death in 44 C.E.  (John the Apostle is apparently based
> on an historical disciple of the false Messiah Theudas who was
> crucified by the Romans in 44 C.E.  and whose disciples were
> murdered.) The real author of the _Gospel of John_ was in fact
> an anonymous Christian from Ephesus in Asia Minor.  The oldest
> surviving fragment of _John_ dates to c. 125 C.E.  and so we can
> date the gospel to c. 100 - 125 C.E.  Based on stylistic
> considerations many scholars narrow down the date to c. 110 -
> 120 C.E.  The earliest version of _John _ did not contain the
> last chapter which deals with Jesus appearing to his disciples. 
> Like the other gospels, _John_ probably only attained its
> present form around 150 - 175 C.E.  The author of _John_ used
> _Mark_ sparingly and so one suspects that he did not trust it.  
> He either had not read _ Matthew_ and _Luke_ or he did not trust
> them since he does not use any information from them which was
> not found in _Mark_.  Most of _John_ consists of legends with
> obvious underlying allegorical interpretations and one suspects 
> that the author never intended them to be history.  _John _ does
> not contain any information from reliable historical sources.
> 
> 	Christians will claim that the _Gospel of John _itself
> states that it is an historical document written by John.  This
> claim is based on the verses _John 19.34 - 35 and _John_ 21.20 -
> 24.  _John_ 19.34 - 35 does not claim that the gospel was
> written by John.  It claims that the events described in the
> immediately preceding verses were accurately reported by a
> witness.  The passage is ambiguous and it is not clear whether
> the witness is supposed to be the same person as the author.  
> Many scholars are of the opinion that the ambiguity is
> deliberate and that the author of _ John_ is trying to tease his
> readers in this passage as well as in the passages which tell
> miraculous stories with allegorical interpretations.  _John_
> 21.20 - 24 also does not claim that the author is John.  It
> claims that the disciple mentioned in the passage is the one who
> witnessed the events described.  It is again notably ambiguous
> as regards the question of whether the disciple is the same
> person as the author.  It should be noted that this passage is
> in the last chapter of _John _which was not part of the original
> gospel but was added on as an epilogue by an anonymous redactor.
> One should beware the fact that many "easy to understand"
> translations of the New Testament distort the passages mentioned
> so as to remove the ambiguity found in the original Greek.
> (Ideally one needs to be familiar with the original Greek text
> of the New Testament in order to avoid biased and distorted
> translations used by fundamentalist Christians and
> missionaries.)
> 
> 	In order to back up their claims that the gospels of _
> Mark_ and _Matthew_ were written by the "real" apostles Mark and
> Matthew and that Jesus is an historical person, missionaries
> often point to the so-called "testimony of Papias."  Papias was
> the bishop of Hierapolis(near Ephesus) during the middle of the
> second century C.E.  None of his writings have survived but the
> Christian historian Eusebius (c. 260 - 339 C.E.) in his book,
> _Ecclesiastical History (written c. 311 - 324 C.E.) paraphrased
> certain passages from Papias's book _ Exposition of the Oracles
> of the Lord _(written c. 140 - 160 C.E.).  In these passages,
> Papias claimed that he had known the daughters of the apostle
> Philip and also reported several stories which he claimed came
> from people named Aristion and John the Elder, who had still
> been alive during his own lifetime.  Eusebius appears to have
> thought that Aristion and John the Elder were disciples of
> Jesus.  Papias claimed that John the Elder had said that Mark
> had been Peter's interpreter and had written down accurately
> everything that Peter had to tell about Jesus.  Papias also
> claimed that Matthew had compiled all the "oracles" in Hebrew
> and everyone had interpreted them as best they could.  None of
> this, however, provides any legitimate historical evidence of
> Jesus nor does it back up the belief that _Mark_ and _Matthew_
> were really written by apostles bearing those names.  Papias was
> a name dropper and it is by no means certain that he was honest
> when he claimed that he had met Philip's daughters.  Even if he
> had, this would at most prove that the apostle Philip in
> Christian mythology was based on an historical person.  Papias
> never explicitly claimed that he had met Aristion and John the
> Elder.  Moreover, just because Eusebius in the 4th century
> believed that they were disciples of Jesus does not mean that
> they were.  Nothing at all is known about who on earth Aristion
> actually was.  He is certainly not one of the disciples in the
> usual Christian tradition.  I have seen books in which certain
> fundamentalist Christians claim that John the Elder was the
> apostle John the son of Zebedee and that he was still alive when
> Papias was young.  They also claim that Papias lived in c. 60 -
> 130 C.E.  and that he wrote his book in c. 120 C.E.  These dates
> are not based on any legitimate evidence and are complete
> nonsense:  Papias was bishop of Hierapolis in c. 150 C.E and as
> already mentioned his book was written sometime in the period c.
> 140 - 160 C.E.  Pushing the date for Papias back to 60 C.E.  
> still does not place him during the lifetime of the apostle John
> who according to standard Christian legends was killed in 44
> C.E.  Besides, it is unlikely that John the Elder had anything
> to do with John the Apostle.  According to Epiphanius (c. 320 -
> 403 C.E.), an early Christian named John the Elder had died in
> 117 C.E.  We will have more to say about him when we discuss the
> three epistles named after John.  Whatever the case, the stories
> which Papias collected were being told at least a decade after
> the gospels and _Acts_ had been written and reflect unfounded
> rumours and superstition about the origins of these books.  In
> particular, the story about Mark obtained from John the Elder,
> is nothing more than a slight elaboration of the legend about
> Mark found in _Acts_ and so it tells us nothing about the true
> origins of the _Gospel of Mark_.  The story about Matthew
> writing the "oracles" is simply a rumour, and besides, it does
> nothave anything to do with the _Gospel of Matthew _.  The term
> "oracles" can only be understood as a reference to the
> collection of writings known as the _Oracles of the Lord _ which
> is referred to in the title of Papias's book and which in all
> likelyhood is the same thing as the _Second Source_, not the
> _Gospel of Matthew_.
> 
> 	Besides the the canonical gospels and _Acts ,
> missionaries also try to use the various Christian epistles as
> proof of the Jesus story.  They claim that the epistles are
> letters written by Jesus's disciples and followers.  However,
> epistles (from the Greek _ epistol q _e_, meaning message or
> order) are books, written in the form of letters (usually from
> legendary characters from the past), which expound religious
> doctrines and instructions.  This form of religious writing was
> used by the Jews in Greco-Roman times.  (The most famous Jewish
> epistle is the _Epistle of Jeremiah , which is a lengthy
> condemnation of idolatry written during the Hellinistic period
> in the form of a letter from the prophet Jeremiah to the people
> of Jerusalem just before they were exiled to Babylon.) As in the
> case of the  gospels, there are Christian epistles not contained
> in the New Testament which both Christian and non-Christian
> scholars agree are pseudepigraphic and of no historical value
> since they expound beliefs and not history.  The existence of
> pseudepigraphic epistles and indeed the whole concept of an
> epistle, suggests that epistles were normally pseudepigraphic. 
> Thus again it is the claims by missionaries and Christian
> fundamentalists, that the canonical epistles are genuine
> letters, which requires proof.
> 
> 	The _Epistle of Jude_ is written in the name of Jude
> (Judas) the brother of James.  According to _Mark _ and
> _Matthew_, Jesus had brothers named Judas and James.  Comparison
> with other writings shows that the _Epistle of Jude_ was written
> in c. 130 C.E.  and so it is obviously pseudepigraphic. There is
> no evidence however that its author used any legitimate
> historical sources as regards Jesus.
> 
> 	Two of the canonical epistles are written in the name of
> Peter.  Since Peter is a mythical Christian adaptation of the
> Egyptian pagan deity Petra, these epistles were certainly not
> written by him.  The style and character of the _First Epistle
> of Peter alone shows that it could not have been written earlier
> than c. 80 C.E.  Even according to Christian legend, Peter was
> supposed to have died following the persecutions instigated by
> Nero in c. 64 C.E.  and so he could not have written the
> epistle.  The author of _Luke_ and _Acts_ used all written
> sources he could get hold of and tended to use them 
> indiscriminately, however he did not mention any epistles by
> Peter.  This shows that the _First Epistle of Peter_ was
> probably written after _Luke_ and _Acts_ (c. 100 C.E.).  No
> references to Jesus in the _First Epistle of Peter _ are taken
> from historical sources but instead reflect beliefs and
> superstition. The _Second Epistle of Peter_ speaks out against
> the Marcionists and so it must have been written c. 150 C.E.  It
> is thus clearly pseudepigraphic. The _Second Epistle ofPeter
> uses as sources:  the story of Jesus's transfiguration found in
> _ Mark_, _Matthew_ and _Luke_ , the _Apocalypse of Peter _and
> the _Epistle of Jude_.  The non-canonical _ Apocalypse of Peter_
> (written some time in the first quarter of the second century
> C.E.) is recognized as being non-historical even by
> fundamentalist Christians. Thus the _Second Epistle of Peter _
> also does not use any legitimate historical sources.
> 
> 	We now turn to the epistles supposedly written by Paul. 
> The _First Epistle of Paul to Timothy_ warns against the
> Marcionist work known as the _Antithesis_.  Marcion was expelled
> from the Church of Rome in c. 144 C.E.  and the _First Epistle
> of Paul to Timothy_ was written shortly afterwards.  Thus we
> again have a clear case of pseudepigraphy.  The _Second Epistle
> of Paul to Timothy_ and the _Epistle of Paul to Titus _ were
> written by the same author and date to about the same period.  
> These three epistles are known as the "pastoral epistles."  The
> ten remaining "non-pastoral" epistles written in the name of
> Paul, were known to Marcion by c. 140 C.E.  Some of them were
> not written in Paul's name alone but are in the form of letters
> written by Paul in collaboration with various friends such as 
> Sosthenes, Timothy, and Silas.  The author of _Luke_ and _Acts_,
> went out of his way to obtain all sources available and tended
> to use them indiscriminately, but he used nothing from the
> Pauline epistles.  We can thus conclude that the non-pastoral
> epistles were written after _Luke_ and _Acts_ in the period c. 
> 100 - 140 C.E.  The non-canonical _First Epistle of Clement to
> the Corinthians_ (written c. 125 C.E.) uses the _First Epistle
> of Paul to the Corinthians_ as a source and so we can narrow
> down the date for that epistle to c. 100 - 125 C.E.   However,
> we are left with the conclusion that that all the Pauline
> epistles are pseudepigraphic. (The semi-mythical Paul was
> supposed to have died during the persecutions instigated by Nero
> in c. 64 C.E.) Some of the Pauline epistles appear to be have
> been altered and edited numerous times before reaching their
> modern forms.  As sources they use each other, _Acts_, the
> gospels of _Mark_, _Matthew_ and _Luke_ and the _First Epistle
> of Peter_ .  We may thus conclude that they provide no
> historical evidence of Jesus.
> 
> 	The _Epistle to the Hebrews_ is a particularly
> interesting epistle since it is not pseudepigraphic but
> completely anonymous.  Its author neither reveals his own name
> nor does he write in the name of a Christian mythological
> character.  Fundamentalist Christians claim that it is another
> epistle by Paul and in fact call it the _Epistle of Paul to the
> Hebrews .  This idea, apparently dating to the late fourth 
> century C.E., is not accepted by all Christians however.  As a
> source for its information on Jesus it uses material common to
> _Mark ,  _Matthew_ and _Luke , but no legitimate sources.  The
> author of the _First Epistle of Clement _ used it as a source
> and so it must have been written before that epistle (c. 125
> C.E.) but after at least the _Gospel of Mark _ (c. 75 - 100
> C.E.).
> 
> 	The _Epistle of James_ is written in the name of a
> servant of Jesus called James(or Jacobus).  However, in
> Christian mythology there were two apostles named James and
> Jesus also had a brother named James. It is not clear which
> James is intended and there is no agreement among Christians
> themselves.  It quotes sayings from the _Second Source _ but
> unlike _Matthew_ and _Luke _ it does not attribute these sayings
> to Jesus but presents them as sayings of James.  It contains an
> important argument against the doctrine of "salvation through
> faith" expounded in the _Epistle of Paul to the Romans_.  We can
> thus conclude that it was written during the first half of the
> second century C.E., after _Romans_ but before the time that
> _Matthew_ and _Luke _ were accepted by all Christians.  Thus
> regardless of which James is  intended, the _Epistle of James_
> is pseudepigraphic. It says almost nothing about Jesus and there
> is no evidence that the author had any historical sources for
> him.
> 
> 	There are three epistles named after the apostle John.  
> None of them are in fact written in the name of John and were
> probably only ascribed to him some time after they had been
> written.  The _First Epistle of John_ , like the _Epistle to the
> Hebrews_, is completely anonymous.  The idea that it was written
> by John arises from the fact that it used the _Gospel of John_
> as a source.  The other two epistles named after John are
> written by a single author who instead of writing in the name of
> an apostle, chose simply to call himself "the Elder."   The idea
> that these two epistles were written by John arose from the
> beliefs that "the Elder" referred to John the Elder and that he
> was the same person as the apostle John.  In the case of the
> _Second Epistle of John _ this belief was reinforced by the fact
> that that epistle also uses the _Gospel of John _as a source.  
> We can thus conclude that the first two epistles ascribed to
> John were written after the _Gospel of John_ (c. 110 - 120
> C.E.).  Consequently none of the three epistles could have been
> written by the apostle John.  It should be pointed out that it
> is quite possible that the pseudonym "the Elder" does refer to
> the person named John the Elder, but if this is so, he is
> certainly not the apostle John.  The first two John epistles use
> only the _ Gospel of John_ as a source for Jesus; they do not
> use any legitimate sources.  The _Third Epistle of John_ barely
> mentions "Christ" and there is no evidence that it used any
> historical sources for him.
> 
> 	Besides the epistles named after John, the New Testament
> also contains a book known as the _Revelation to John .  This
> book combines two forms of religious writing, that of the
> epistle and that of the apocalypse.  (Apocalypses are religious
> works which are written in the form of revelations about the
> future made by a famous character from the past.  These
> revelations usually describe unfortunate events occurring at the
> time of writing and also offer some hope to the reader that
> things will improve.) It is not certain how much editing the
> _Revelation to John_ underwent and so it is difficult to date it
> precisely.  Since it mentions the persecutions instigated by
> Nero we can say with certainty that it was not written earlier
> than 64 C.E.  Thus it cannot have been written by the "real
> John."  Thefirst few verses form an introduction which is
> clearly not intended to be by John and which provides a vague
> admission that the book is pseudepigraphic even though the
> author feels that his message is inspired by G-d.  The style of
> writing and the references to the practice of kriobolium
> (baptism in sheeps blood) suggests that the author was one of
> those people of Jewish descent who mixed Judaism with pagan
> practices.  There were many such "pagan Jews" during Roman times
> and it was these people who become the first converts to
> Christianity, established the first churches, and who were
> probably also responsible for introducing pagan myths into the
> story of Jesus.  (They are also remembered for their rediculous
> belief that "Adonai _ Tzevaot_" was the same as the pagan god
> "_Sebazios_ .") The references to Jesus in the book are few and
> their is no evidence that they are based on anything but belief.
> 
> 	Besides the epistles accepted in the New Testament and
> besides the epistles which are unanimously recognized as being
> of no value (such as the _Epistle of Barnabas_), there are also
> several epistles which although not accepted in the New
> Testament, are considered of value by some Christians.  Firstly
> there are the epistles named after Clement.  In Christian
> legend, Clement was the third in succession of Peter as bishop
> of Rome.  The _First Epistle of Clement to the Corinthians_ is
> not in fact written in the name of Clement but in the name of
> the "Church of God which sojourns in Rome."  It refers to a
> persecution which is generally thought to have occured in 95
> C.E.  under Domitian, and it refers to the dismissal of the
> elders of the Church of Corinth in c. 96 C.E.  Christians
> believe that Clement was bishop of Rome during this time and
> this is apparently the reason why the epistle was later named
> after him.  Fundamentalist Christians believe that the epistle
> was in fact written in c. 96 C.E.  This date is not possible
> since the epistle refers to bishops and priests as separate
> groups; a division which had not taken place yet.  Stylistic
> considerations show that it was written in c. 125 C.E.  As
> references it used the _ Epistle to the Hebrews_ and The _First
> Epistle of Paul to the Corinthians_ but no legitimate historical
> sources.  The _Second Epistle of Clement_ is by a different
> author to the first and was written later.  We may thus conclude
> that it was also not written by Clement.  (There is no evidence
> that either of these epistles were named after Clement before
> their incorporation into the collection of books known as the
> _Codex Alexandrinus , in the fifth century C.E.) As sources for
> Jesus, the _Second Epistle of Clement _ uses the _Gospel of the
> Egyptians_, a document which is rejected by even the most
> fundamentalist Christians, and also the New Testament books
> which we have shown to be valueless.  Thus again we have no
> legitimate evidence of Jesus.
> 
> 	Next we have the epistles written in the name of
> Ignatius.  According to legend, Ignatius was the bishop of
> Antioch who was killed under Trajan's rule c. 110 C.E.  
> (Although he is probably based on a real historical person the
> legends about hismartyrdom are largely fictional.) There are
> fifteen epistles written in his name.  Of these, eight are
> unanimously recognized as being pseudepigraphic and of no value
> as regards Jesus.  The remaining seven each have two forms, a
> longer and a shorter.  The longer forms are clearly altered and
> edited versions of the shorter forms.  Fundamentalist Christians
> claim that the shorter forms are genuine letters written by
> Ignatius.  The _ Epistle of Ignatius to the Smyrnaeans_ mentions
> the threefold ordering of bishops, priests and deacons which had
> not yet taken place by Ignatius's death which occurred no later
> than 117 C.E.  and which probably took place c. 110 C.E.  All
> seven shorter epistles attack various Christian beliefs, now
> considered heretical, which only became prevalent c. 140 - 150
> C.E.  The shorter _Epistle of Ignatius to the Romans_ contains a
> quote from the writings of Irenaeus, written after 170 C.E.  and
> published c. 185 C.E.  We can thus conclude that the seven
> shorter epistles are also pseudepigraphic. The shorter _Epistle
> of Ignatius to the Romans_ was certainly written after 170 C.E. 
> (In fact, if it was not written by Irenaeus then it was
> probably written after c. 185 C.E.) and the other six were
> written no earlier than the period c. 140 - 150 C.E.  if not
> later.  There are no sources for Jesus in the Ignatian epistles
> other than the New Testament books and the writings of Irenaeus
> which only use the New Testament.  Thus they contain no
> legitimate evidence of Jesus.
> 
> 	There are two more epistles which Christians claim are
> genuine letters, namely the _Epistle of Polycarp_ and the
> _Martyrdom of Polycarp_.  The Ignatian epistles and the epistles
> concerning Polycarp have always been closely associated.  It is
> quite possible that they were all written by the Christian
> writer Irenaeus and his disciples.  There certainly was a real
> historical early Christian named Polycarp.  He was bishop of
> Smyrna and was killed by the Romans sometime in the period 155 -
> 165 C.E.  When Irenaeus was a boy he knew Polycarp.
> Fundamentalist Christians claim that Polycarp was the disciple
> of the apostle John.  However, even if we accept the legend that
> Polycarp lived to the age of 86, he could not have been born
> earlier than 67 C.E and therefore could not have been a disciple
> of John.  (It is possible that he was a disciple of the
> enigmatic John the Elder.) Since Irenaeus had known Polycarp
> they also assume that Irenaeus was in fact his disciple, a claim
> for which there is no evidence.  _The Epistle of Polycarp_ uses
> most New Testament books and the Ignatian epistles as references
> but it uses no legitimate sources for Jesus.  Those Christians
> who reject the Ignatian epistles but believe the _Epistle of
> Polycarp_ is a genuine letter, claim that the references to the
> Ignatian epistles are a later interpolation.  This idea is based
> on personal bias not on any genuine evidence.  Based on the
> blind belief that this epistle is a genuine letter, some
> Christians date it to around the middle of the second century
> C.E.  shortly before Polycarp's death.  However, the references
> to the Ignatian epistles suggest that it was in fact written
> some time in the last few decades of the secondcentury C.E., at
> least about a decade after Polycarp's death if not later.
> 
> 	The _Martyrdom of Polycarp_ is written in the name of
> "the Church of G-d that sojourns in Smyrna."  It starts off in
> the form of a letter but its main body is written in the form of
> an ordinary story.  It tells the tale of Polycarp's martyrdom.  
> Like the _Epistle of Polycarp_, it was written some time during
> the last few decades of the second century C.E.  Unfortunately,
> there is no evidence that it used any reliable sources for its
> story, only rumours and hearsay.  The story in fact appears to
> be highly fictionalized.  The references to Jesus are not taken
> from any reliable source.
> 
> 	We have thus seen that the epistles used by missionaries
> as "evidence" are just as spurious as the gospels.  Again, the
> reader should beware "easy to understand" translations of the
> New Testament since they call the epistles, "letters," thereby
> incorrectly implying that they are really letters written by the
> people after whom they are named.
> 
> 	Now, besides the books of the New Testament, and besides
> the epistles relating to Clement, Ignatius and Polycarp, there
> is only one more Christian religious work which Christians claim
> as historical evidence of Jesus, namely the _Teaching of the
> Twelve Apostles_ also known as the _Didache_.  All other early
> Christian religious works are either wholly rejected by modern
> Christians or are least recognized as not being primary sources
> as regards Jesus.  The _ Didache_ began as a sectarian Jewish
> document, probably written during the period of turmoil in c. 
> 70 C.E.  Its earliest form consisted of moral teachings and
> predictions of the destruction of the current world order.  This
> earliest version, which obviously did not mention Jesus, was
> taken over by Christians who heavily edited and altered it,
> adding a story of Jesus and rules of worship for early Christian
> communities.  Scholars estimate that the earliest Christian
> version of the _Didache_ could not have been written much later
> than 95 C.E.  It probably only reached its final form around c. 
> 120 C.E.  It appears to have served an isolated Christian
> community in Syria as a "Church Order" during the period c. 100
> - 130 C.E.  However, there is no evidence that its story of
> Jesus was based on any reliable sources, and as we have
> mentioned, the earliest Jewish version had nothing to do with
> Jesus.  In fact, this document provides evidence that the myth
> of Jesus grew gradually.  Like the _Gospel of Mark and the early
> versions of _Gospel of Matthew , the Jesus story in the
> _Didache_ makes no mention of a virgin birth.  It makes no
> mention of the fantastic miracles which were later attributed to
> Jesus.  Although Jesus is referred to as a "son" of G-d, it
> appears that this term is being used figurativly.  The evidence
> we have concerning the origin of the crucifixion myth suggests
> that one of the things leading to this myth was the fact that
> the cross was the astrological symbol of the Vernal Equinox
> which occurs near Passover, when Jesus was believed to have been
> killed.  It is thus not surprising to find that the story in the
> _Didache_ makes no mention of Jesus being crucified, although
> itmentions a cross in the sky as a sign of Jesus.  The twelve
> apostles mentioned in the full title of the  _Didache_ do not
> appear as twelve real disciples of Jesus and the term clearly
> refers to the twelve sons of Jacob representing the twelve
> tribes of Israel.  Thus the _Didache_ provides vital clues
> concerning the growth of the Jesus myth, but it certainly does
> not provide any evidence of an historical Jesus.
> 
> 	Since none of the Christian religious texts provide any
> acceptable evidence of Jesus, missionaries turn next to
> non-Christian texts.  Christians claim that several reliable
> historians recorded information about Jesus.  Although some of
> these historians are more or less accepted, we shall see that
> they do not provide any information about Jesus.
> 
> 	Firstly, Christians claim that the Jewish historian
> Josephus recorded information about Jesus in his book _Jewish
> Antiquities _ (published c. 93 - 94 C.E.) It is true that this
> book contains information about the three false Messiahs, Yehuda
> of Galilee, Theudas and Benjamin the Egyptian, and it is true
> that the character of Jesus appears to be based on all of them
> in part, but none of them can be regarded as the historical
> Jesus.  Moreover, in the book of _Acts_, these people are
> mentioned as being different people to Jesus and so modern
> Christianity actually rejects any connection between them and
> Jesus.  In the Christian edited versions of the _Jewish
> Antiquities_ there are two passages dealing with Jesus as
> portrayed in Christian religious works.  Neither of these
> passages are found in the original version of the _Jewish
> Antiquities_ which was preserved by the Jews.  The first passage
> (XVII,3,3) was quoted by Eusebius writing in c. 320 C.E.  and so
> we can conclude that it was added in some time between the time
> Christians got hold of the _Jewish Antiquities_ and c. 320 C.E. 
> It is not known when the other passage (XX,9,1) was added in. 
> Neither passage is based on any reliable sources.  It is
> fraudulent to claim that these passages were written by Josephus
> and that they provide evidence for Jesus.  They were written by
> Christian redactors and were based purely on Christian belief.
> 
> 	Next the Christians will point to the _Annals _by
> Tacitus.  In the _Annals_ XV,44, Tacitus describes how Nero
> blamed the Christians for the fire of Rome in 64 C.E.  He
> mentions that the name "Christians" originated from a person
> named Christus who had been executed by Pontius Pilate during
> the reign of Tiberias.  It is certainly true that the name
> "Christians" is derived from Christ or Christus (=Messiah), but
> Tacitus' claim that he was executed by Pilate during the reign
> of Tiberias is based purely on the claims being made by the
> Christians themselves and appearing in the gospels of _Mark_,
> _Matthew _and _Luke_ which had already been widely circulated
> when the _Annals_ were being written.  (The _Annals_ were
> published after 115 C.E.  and were certainly not written before
> 110 C.E.) Thus, although the _Annals_ contains a sentence in
> which "Christus" is spoken of as a real person, this sentence
> was based purely on Christian claims and beliefs which are of no
> historical value.It is quite ironic that modern Christians use
> Tacitus to back up their beliefs since he was the least accurate
> of all Roman historians.  He justifies hatred of Christians by
> saying that they committed abominations.  Besides "Christus" he
> also speaks of various pagan gods as if they really exist.  His
> summary of Middle East history in his book the _Histories_ is so
> distorted as to be laughable. We may conclude that his single
> mention of Christus cannot be taken as reliable evidence of an
> historical Jesus.
> 
> 	Once Tacitus is dismissed, the Christians will claim
> that one of the younger Pliny's letters to the emperor Trajan
> provides evidence of an historical Jesus.  (_Letters_ X,96.)
> This is nonsense.  The letter in question simply mentions that
> certain Christians had cursed "Christ" to avoid being punished. 
> It does not claim that this Christ really existed.  The letter
> in question was written before Pliny's death in c. 114 C.E. 
> but after he was sent to Bithynia in 111 C.E., probably in the
> year 112 C.E.  Thus it provides nothing more than a confirmation
> of the trivial fact that around the beginning of the twelfth
> decade C.E.  Christians did not normally curse something called
> "Christ" although some had done it to avoid punishment.  It
> provides no evidence of an historical Jesus.
> 
> 	Christians will also claim that Suetonius recorded
> evidence of Jesus in his book _Lives of the Caesars_ (also known
> as _The Twelve Caesars_).  The passage in question is _Claudius_
> 25, where he mentions that the emperor Claudius expelled the
> Jews from Rome (apparently in 49 C.E.) because they caused
> continual disturbances at the instigation of a certain Chrestus.
> If one blindly assumes that "Chrestus" refers to Jesus then, if
> anything, this passage contradicts the Christian story of Jesus
> since Jesus was supposed have been crucified when Pontius Pilate
> was procurator (26 - 36 C.E.) during the reign of Tiberias and
> moreover, he was never supposed to have been in Rome!  Suetonius
> lived during the period (c. 75 - 150 C.E.) and his book, _Lives
> of the Caesars_, was published during the period 119 - 120 C.E.
> having been written some time after Domitian's death in 96 C.E. 
> Thus the event he describes occurred at least 45 years before
> he was writing about it and so we cannot be certain of its
> accuracy.  The name Chrestus is derived from the Greek
> _Chrestos_ meaning "good one" and it is not the same as Christ
> or Christus which are derived from the Greek _Christos_ meaning
> "anointed one/Messiah."  If we take the passage at face value it
> refers to a person named Chrestus who was in Rome and who had
> nothing to do with Jesus or any other "Christ."  The term
> Chrestos was often applied to pagan gods and many of the people
> in Rome called "Jews" were actually people who mixed Jewish
> beliefs with pagan beliefs and who were not necessarily of
> Jewish descent.  Thus it is also possible that the passage
> refers to conflicts involving these pagan "Jews" who worshipped
> a pagan god (such as Sebazios) titled Chrestos.  On the other
> hand, the words Chrestos and Chr istos were often confused and
> so the passage might even be referring to some conflict
> involving Jews who believed that some person was the Messiah,
> but this person may or may not have actually been in Rome and
> for all we know, he may not have been a real historical person. 
> One should bear in mind that the described event took place
> just several years after the crucifixion of the false Messiah
> Theudas in 44 C.E.  and the passage may be referring to his
> followers in Rome.  Christians claim that the passage refers to
> Jesus and conflicts arising after Paul brought news of him to
> Rome and that Suetonius was only mistaken about Jesus himself
> being in Rome.  However, this interpretation is based on blind
> belief in Jesus and the myths about Paul and there is nothing to
> suggest that it is the correct interpretation.  Thus we may
> conclude that Suetonius also fails to provide any reliable
> evidence of an historical Jesus.
> 
> 	All other writers who mention Jesus, from Justin Martyr
> in the second century C.E.  to the latest expounders of
> Christian myth in the twentieth century, have all based their
> references to Jesus on the sources we have discredited above.  
> Consequently their claims are worthless as historical evidence. 
> We are thus left with the conclusion that there is absolutely
> no reliable and acceptable historical evidence of Jesus.  All
> references to Jesus are derived from the superstitious beliefs
> and myths of the early Christian community.  The majority of
> these beliefs only came into existence after the persecution by
> Nero and the tragedy of 70 C.E.  Many of these beliefs are based
> on the pagan legends about the gods Tammuz, Osiris, Attis,
> Dionysus and the sun god Mithras.  Other myths about Jesus
> appear to be based on various different historical people such
> as the convicted criminals Yeishu ben Pandeira and ben Stada,
> and the crucified false Messiahs Yehuda, Theudas and Benjamin,
> but none of these people can be regarded as an historical Jesus.
> 
> 
> 		*FURTHER READING*
> 
> 
> 1)	J.  Allegro, _The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Christian
> Myth _, Prometheus Books, reprinted 1991.  (Examines how ancient
> myths were misused by the early church and misrepresented as
> history.)
> 
> 
> 2)	J.  Campbell, _Occidental Mythology_, Penguin Books,
> reprinted 1985.  (An exposition of religious mythology in
> western civilization.  Includes important evidence concerning
> the borrowing of pagan myths by Christianity.)
> 
> 
> 3)	E.D.  Cohen, _The Mind of the Bible-Believer_,
> Prometheus Books, reprinted 1991.  (Uncovers the psychological
> ploys around which the New Testament is built and exposes the
> adverse effects of Christian fundamentalism.)
> 
> 
> 4)	R.  Helms, _Gospel Fictions_, Prometheus Books,
> reprinted 1991.  (Exposes the gospels as being largely fictional
> documents composed as a culmination to an extensive mythological
> tradition.)
> 
> 
> 5)	S.  Levine, _You Take Jesus and I'll Take God:  How to
> Refute Christian Missionaries_, revised edition, Hamoroh Press,
> Los Angeles, 1980.  (Exposes the tricks used by missionaries and
> the misquotations of the Tanach in the New Testament.)
> 
> 
> 6)	J.M.  Robertson, _A Short History of Christianity_, 2nd
> Ed., Watts & Co., London 1913.  (One of the first serious
> academic investigations into the origins of Christianity.  
> Exposes the elements of the Jesus story borrowed from pagan
> myths.)
> 
> 
> 7)	_The Talmud_, should be compulsory reading for all Jews
> although it is unfortunately neglected in modern times!
> 
> -- END --
> .
> 


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> 
> 3CHRISTI.TXT   22081  09/20/93  "The Holocaust Issue: Three Christian Views",
>                                 from the September/October 1993 IHR
>                                 _Journal_.
> 66QA.TXT       18724  03/10/92  "66 Questions and Answers on the Holocaust",
>                                 published by the Institute for Historical
>                                 Review.
> ADVENTUR.TXT    6328  09/24/93  "The Adventure of Revisionism", by Robert
>                                 Faurisson.  From the September/October 1993
>                                 IHR _Journal_.
> AIRPHOT1.ZIP 1199753  12/10/93  Excerpts from the 116-page book by John C.
>                                 Ball, AIR PHOTO EVIDENCE: AUSCHWITZ,
>                                 TREBLINKA, MAJDANEK, SOBIBOR, BERGEN BELSEN,
>                                 BELZEC, BABI YAR, KATYN FOREST...  Includes
>                                 62 GIF files, digitized to fit on a
>                                 640*480*256 greyscale (or color) screen.
>                                 This package demonstrates that aerial
>                                 photographs, exposed by the Americans
>                                 and the Germans, DIRECTLY CONTRADICT AND
>                                 DISPROVE THE "HOLOCAUST" STORY, IN MANY
>                                 VITAL AREAS!  Shocking in its revelations,
>                                 very well argued and documented.  An
>                                 analysis of aerial photographs conducted by
>                                 an expert aerial photo analyst.  Its impact
>                                 on the orthodox "Holocaust" story and those
>                                 who propagate it is nothing short of
>                                 devastating!  [Part 1 of 8]
> AIRPHOT2.ZIP 1199289  12/10/93  [Part 2 of 8]
> AIRPHOT3.ZIP 1186409  12/10/93  [Part 3 of 8]
> AIRPHOT4.ZIP 1182704  12/10/93  [Part 4 of 8]
> AIRPHOT5.ZIP 1183152  12/10/93  [Part 5 of 8]
> AIRPHOT6.ZIP 1150838  12/10/93  [Part 6 of 8]
> AIRPHOT7.ZIP 1185634  12/10/93  [Part 7 of 8]
> AIRPHOT8.ZIP  759109  12/10/93  [Part 8 of 8]
> ALOOKBAC.TXT   11774  12/29/93  "THE JOURNAL OF HISTORICAL REVIEW, A Look
>                                 Back", by Greg Raven, from the Nov./Dec. 1993
>                                 IHR _Journal_.
> BOTHSIDE.TXT   19430  03/10/92  "THE HOLOCAUST: Let's Hear Both Sides", by
>                                 Mark Weber.
> BRAD2NAT.TXT    7152  03/10/92  "An Open Letter to Nat Hentoff", by Bradley
>                                 R. Smith (part of "RUB-A-DUB-DUB").
> BUTZNTRO.TXT    8519  10/02/93  "A Brief Introduction to Holocaust
>                                 Revisionism", by Arthur R. Butz, professor of
>                                 electrical engineering at Northwestern
>                                 University, from the Summer 1991 IHR
>                                 _Journal_.
> CAMPSLIB.TXT   24410  03/10/92  "The 'Liberation of the Camps': FACTS vs.
>                                 LIES", by Theodore J. O'Keefe.
> CANADREF.TXT   13283  02/02/93  "Canadian Reflections on the Zundel and
>                                 Irving Cases", by Doug Collins, from the
>                                 Jan./Feb. 1993 IHR _Journal_.  Very good
>                                 article!
> CONTROVE.TXT   20629  05/09/92  Bradley R. Smith's first (and now-famous)
>                                 major campus ad that ran in numerous
>                                 university papers:  "THE HOLOCAUST
>                                 CONTROVERSY:  The Case For Open Debate"
> CRACKDWN.TXT    6559  08/01/92  French Government Cracks Down on
>                                 Revisionists!  Official Suppression of Basic
>                                 Rights!
> CRIMPROS.TXT   13486  11/24/92  "Criminal Prosecution of Holocaust Denial" --
>                                 Opinion statement of the Canadian Free Speech
>                                 League.  Shows clearly why there must be free
>                                 discussion of what happened to the Jews
>                                 during World War II.  Informative!
> CROATIAN.TXT    8831  09/13/93  President Tudjman Refuses to Recant;
>                                 CROATIA'S LEADER DENOUNCED AS HOLOCAUST
>                                 REVISIONIST.  From the July/August 1993 IHR
>                                 _Journal_.
> CULTDEAT.TXT   12461  09/28/93  "CULT OF DEATH", by "Doubting Thomas".  A
>                                 reprint from _REMARKS_.
> DAILYTEX.TXT   10620  03/19/93  AN OPEN LETTER TO THE DAILY TEXAN, by David
>                                 Cole.  Concerning the _Daily Texan_'s refusal
>                                 to print an ad for the video, "David Cole
>                                 Interviews Dr. Franciszek Piper" (described
>                                 in PIPERVID.TXT.)
> DAVIDIRV.TXT   14249  01/30/93  "David Irving: Intrepid Battler for
>                                 Historical Truth", by Mark Weber, from the
>                                 Jan./Feb. 1993 _Journal of Historical Review_
> DCMUSEUM.TXT    6875  01/30/93  "Official US Holocaust Museum To Open in
>                                 April in Washington, DC", from the Jan./Feb
>                                 1993 IHR _Journal_ (plus an article from a
>                                 Rabbi on "Holocaust obsession killing Jews",
>                                 and another..."Most Patriotic".)
> DEFENDER.TXT   17378  01/31/93  "Fred Leuchter: Courageous Defender of
>                                 Historical Truth", by Mark Weber, from the
>                                 Winter 1992-93 IHR _Journal_.  Very
>                                 informative and inspiring!
> DEMJ-ISR.TXT    9978  01/06/94  "Demjanjuk, Israel and The Holocaust", by
>                                 Joseph Sobran, from the Nov./Dec. 1993 IHR
>                                 _Journal_.
> DIESEL1A.TXT   79502  11/03/93  "The Diesel Gas Chambers:  Myth Within a
>                                 Myth", by Friedrich Paul Berg.  Presented
>                                 to the 1983 International Revisionist
>                                 Conference.  Printed in the Spring 1984 IHR
>                                 _Journal_.  Illustrations are in the file
>                                 DIESEL1B.ZIP.
> DIESEL1B.ZIP  511850  11/03/93  Seven .GIF files that go with DIESEL1A.ZIP.
>                                 Figures 1 through 7, digitized from the IHR
>                                 _Journal_ in 640*480*256 greyscale.
> DISSOLUT.TXT    4396  03/10/92  Advertisement for the book, _The Dissolution
>                                 of Eastern European Jewry_.  Where did the
>                                 so-called "Six Million" go if they weren't
>                                 exterminated?
> DOGGLE.TXT      8779  04/24/93  YOU are paying for a Boondoggle of Historic
>                                 Proportions!  (The U.S. Holocaust Memorial
>                                 Museum)
> DSCROLLS.TXT   18493  03/10/92  "Whatever Happened to the Dead Sea Scrolls?",
>                                 by Martin A. Larson, Ph.D.
> ELIEWIES.TXT   16438  03/10/92  "A Prominent False Witness: Elie Wiesel", by
>                                 Robert Faurisson
> EXODUSNO.TXT    2414  03/10/92  "Exodus Never Happened:  Archeologist"  The
>                                 findings of an Israeli archeologist.
> FALSUS.TXT     21302  05/19/92  "Falsus in Uno, Falsus in Omnibus... The
>                                 'Human Soap' Holocaust Myth"
> FANTASYL.TXT   40087  12/05/93  THE ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE OF B'NAI B'RITH:
>                                 TRAPPED IN A NAZI FANTASYLAND, by Bradley R.
>                                 Smith.  Also includes 3 related articles.
> FGASDOOR.TXT    3116  09/10/93  "Gas Chamber Door Fraudulently Portrayed at
>                                 US Holocaust Museum", from the September/
>                                 October 1993 IHR _Journal_.
> FORGED-A.ZIP 1045917  10/18/93  FORGED "WAR CRIME" PHOTOS MALIGN THE GERMAN
>                                 PEOPLE!  [Part 1 of 11]  Contains sixty-eight
>                                 640*480*256 greyscale digitized GIF graphics.
>                                 Viewer not included.
> FORGED-B.ZIP 1046266  10/18/93  [part 2 of 11]
> FORGED-C.ZIP 1085881  10/18/93  [part 3 of 11]
> FORGED-D.ZIP 1035243  10/18/93  [part 4 of 11]
> FORGED-E.ZIP 1074908  10/18/93  [part 5 of 11]
> FORGED-F.ZIP  967510  10/18/93  [part 6 of 11]
> FORGED-G.ZIP 1025388  10/18/93  [part 7 of 11]
> FORGED-H.ZIP 1066765  10/18/93  [part 8 of 11]
> FORGED-I.ZIP 1034956  10/18/93  [part 9 of 11]
> FORGED-J.ZIP 1065608  10/18/93  [part 10 of 11]
> FORGED-!.ZIP   17752  10/18/93  [part 11 of 11]
> FORGDNFO.TXT    3442  10/20/93  A brief introductory text about the
>                                 FORGED-*.ZIP package.  Explains what it is
>                                 and why it was created.  Briefly discusses
>                                 the moral issues involved.  Recommended.
> FRCRTORD.TXT   15312  04/05/93  "French Court Orders Heavy Penalties Against
>                                 Faurisson for Holocaust Views -- New French
>                                 Legal Assault Against Revisionists and
>                                 Freedom of Speech", from the IHR _Journal_,
>                                 March/April 1993.
> FROM-D&B.TXT    5949  01/08/94  Advertisement from David Cole and Bradley
>                                 Smith, printed in the Nov./Dec. 1993 IHR
>                                 _Journal_.  Discusses the powerful Piper
>                                 video and the new video soon to be released!
> FURTHERL.TXT   11469  09/20/93  "In Europe: Further Legal Persecution of
>                                 Revisionists", from the September/October
>                                 1993 IHR _Journal_.
> GASCHMBR.TXT   22483  03/10/92  "The 'Problem of the Gas Chambers'", by
>                                 Professor Robert Faurisson.
> GENIECEN.TXT    6662  11/12/92  "LATEST COMPUTER NETWORK HOLOCAUST DEBATE
>                                 CLOSED DOWN:  'Electronic Democracy' Includes
>                                 Censorship", from the November 1992 _IHR
>                                 Newsletter_.
> GHETOBOY.GIF  133691  09/13/93  (640*480*256) 'Little Ghetto Boy' Prospers in
>                                 London.  Supposedly killed in a "death
>                                 camp", he is alive and well...and rich.
> GWTWISTS.TXT   17306  01/09/94  "My Lunch With George:  How an Influential
>                                 Journalist Twists the Truth", by Mark Weber,
>                                 from the Nov./Dec. 1993 IHR _Journal_.
>                                 Discusses George Will's blatant dishonesty
>                                 and bias.
> HATEMONG.GIF  320811  12/30/93  (1024*768*256) See the hate-monger!  Read his
>                                 lies!  Wonder how he won the NOBEL PEACE
>                                 PRIZE!
> HATEMONG.TXT    6047  06/23/93  "The Nobel Peace Prize for a Hatemonger?"
>                                 Professional Jewish "Holocaust survivor" and
>                                 Nobel Peace Prize winner Elie Wiesel calls
>                                 upon all Jews to HATE all Germans!  Not
>                                 Nazis... all Germans!
> HEBARNES.GIF   31489  10/04/93  (267*200*256) Harry Elmer Barnes, the founder
>                                 of modern Revisionism.  Two pictures side by
>                                 side, in greyscale.
> HITLER1.TXT   147987  12/13/92  "How Hitler Consolidated Power in Germany and
>                                 Launched a Social Revolution", by Leon
>                                 Degrelle, from the Fall 1992 _IHR Journal_.
>                                 Astounding article; a must-read!
> HOLDOUBT.TXT    4776  04/22/93  "A Third of Americans Have Holocaust Doubts",
>                                 from _The Oregonian_, April 20, 1993, page
>                                 A5.  Big Brother's iron hold on the People's
>                                 minds is slipping!
> HOLOFAX1.TXT    2522  11/08/93  Some facts about the DIARY OF ANNE FRANK and
>                                 so-called "experts" on the "GAS CHAMBERS".
>                                 Brief but very informative.
> HOLOHOAX.TXT    4225  11/16/92  IS THE HOLOCAUST A HOAX?  "Within 5 minutes,
>                                 any intelligent, open-minded person can be
>                                 convinced that the Holocaust gassings of WWII
>                                 are a profitable hoax."
> HUMILIAT.TXT   20253  12/21/93  "SCHOLARS" HUMILIATING STUDENTS, by Bradley
>                                 R. Smith.  Includes 3 articles:  the one he is
>                                 responding to (written by Professor Michael
>                                 Berenbaum, who "helped create" the U.S.
>                                 Holocaust Memorial Museum...) and the ad
>                                 which Mr. Berenbaum was responding to.
> HUSTLER1.TXT   18175  06/29/93  From _Hustler_ magazine, August 1993:
>                                 "WHITEWASHING HITLER -- Taking the Gas Out of
>                                 Nazi Infamy", by Jim Redden.
> IHRINTRO.TXT   15323  01/24/93  A few facts about the Institute for
>                                 Historical Review.
> IHRVICTO.TXT   16727  03/10/92  IHR Scores Stunning Victory in Mermelstein
>                                 Trial! (October 1991, IHR Newsletter).
> IRVFIN3X.TXT    2530  03/29/93  Irving Conviction in Germany Upheld, Fine
>                                 Tripled -- Historian Ordered to Pay $18,000
>                                 for "Gas Chamber" Remarks!  From the March/
>                                 April 1993 IHR _Journal_.
> IRVFINED.TXT    9372  07/25/92  "Irving Fined $6,000 in German 'Gas Chamber'
>                                 Trial -- Historian Defies Judge in Dramatic
>                                 Case," from the July/August 1992 _IHR
>                                 Newsletter_.  VERY eye-opening!  Also see
>                                 IRVFIN3X.TXT, PIPERVID.TXT & DAVIDIRV.TXT!
> JEFFRSON.TXT    8906  02/04/93  "Thomas Jefferson's Place in History", by
>                                 Martin A. Larson, from the Jan./Feb. 1993 IHR
>                                 _Journal_.
> JEWISHRV.TXT   14392  08/06/93  "A Jewish Revisionist's Visit to Auschwitz",
>                                 by David Cole, printed in the March/April
>                                 1993 IHR _Journal_.
> JEWSWAR.TXT     4652  03/10/92  Jews ("World Jewry") declared war on Germany
>                                 *before* World War 2!  Some documentation.
> JHRINDEX.TXT  130851  12/25/93  1980-1993 INDEX for the IHR _Journal_.  From
>                                 the November/December 1993 IHR _Journal_.
>                                 Also indicates which entries are currently
>                                 available from Banished CPU's FTP File
>                                 Server, their filenames, etc.
> JUSTICEF.TXT   33581  01/05/94  "My Campaign for Justice for John Demjanjuk",
>                                 by Jerome A. Brentar, from the Nov./Dec. 1993
>                                 IHR _Journal_.  With an introduction by Mark
>                                 Weber.
> KEEPSCHA.TXT    6805  01/08/94  "The Story Keeps Changing", by Doug Collins,
>                                 from the Nov./Dec. 1993 IHR _Journal_.
> KRISTALL.TXT   42678  03/16/92  Excerpts from: _FLASH POINT: Kristallnacht
>                                 1938, Instigators, Victims and Beneficiaries_
> LEUCBANB.TXT    5965  07/12/92  "LEUCHTER BANNED FROM BRITAIN -- IHR Condemns
>                                 New Blow Against Freedom of Speech," from the
>                                 November, 1991 _IHR Newsletter_.
> LEUCFGHT.TXT    8850  03/10/92  "Fred Leuchter Fights Back", from the _IHR
>                                 Newsletter_.
> LEUCHTER.TXT   18290  03/10/92  "Inside the Auschwitz 'Gas Chambers'", by
>                                 Fred A. Leuchter.  An introduction to _The
>                                 Leuchter Report_.
> LEUCRSTD.TXT    5575  01/08/94  "Fred Leuchter Arrested in Germany:  IHR
>                                 Protests Politically-Motivated Act of
>                                 Censorship", from the Nov./Dec. 1993 IHR
>                                 _Journal_.
> LEUCVICT.TXT    7343  03/26/92  Leuchter Wins Tactical Victory in Legal
>                                 Battle -- Trumped-Up Charges Removed!
> LEUCVIND.TXT   65366  01/13/93  "The Leuchter Report Vindicated: A Response
>                                 to J.-C. Pressac's Critique", by Paul
>                                 Grubach, from the Winter 1992-93 _IHR
>                                 Journal_.
> LIBRATRS.TXT   20099  08/11/93  "MULTI-MEDIA 'LIBERATORS' PROJECT EXPOSED AS
>                                 FRAUD -- Historical Truth Survives
>                                 'Politically Correct' Exploitation," by Mark
>                                 Weber and Greg Raven, from the May/June 1993
>                                 IHR _Journal_.
> LIFAFTER.TXT   35999  03/02/93  "Is There Life After Persecution?  The
>                                 Botched Execution of Fred Leuchter", by Fred
>                                 A. Leuchter, Jr., from the Winter 1992-93 IHR
>                                 _Journal_.
> LILIENTH.TXT    3386  11/04/93  A letter from Professor Robert Faurisson to
>                                 Dr. Lilienthal, June 18 1993.  Copied and
>                                 disseminated with permission.  Faurisson's
>                                 addition:  "I received a nice answer from Dr.
>                                 Lilienthal; he apologized."
> LUFTLRPT.TXT   63566  04/08/93  AUSTRIA'S TOP ENGINEER confirms Leuchter's
>                                 findings that the "gas chambers" are hoaxes!
>                                 "The Luftl Report -- An Austrian Engineer's
>                                 Report on the 'Gas Cambers' of Auschwitz and
>                                 Mauthausen", from the Winter 1992-93 IHR
>                                 _Journal_.  A must-read!
> MANUFACT.TXT    6229  09/15/93  "How Fake War Propaganda Stories Are
>                                 Manufactured", from the September/October
>                                 1993 IHR _Journal_.  One of the documents
>                                 declassified by the British Government
>                                 earlier this year!
> MEMORIAL.TXT    6984  10/20/93  Bradley R. Smith's newest campus ad -- now
>                                 being published in university and high school
>                                 newspapers across the country!  "A
>                                 REVISIONIST'S VIEW OF THE U.S. HOLOCAUST
>                                 MEMORIAL MUSEUM IN WASHINGTON, D.C.", by
>                                 Bradley R. Smith.  "You have the right to
>                                 know the truth!"  This has even been printed
>                                 in the _Oregonian_, at Notre Dame, etc.!
> MILWAUK1.TXT    4827  12/25/93  "Challenging facts of Holocaust is
>                                 responsibility of historians", from the "In
>                                 My Opinion" column by Robert Kling, in the
>                                 _Milwaukee Journal_, 08/13/93.  Breakthrough
>                                 article!  Reproduced in the Nov./Dec. 1993
>                                 IHR _Journal_.
> MOSHEPE.TXT     6464  12/22/93  "HOLOCAUST LIES:  BERGEN-BELSEN GASSINGS",
>                                 from the Nov./Dec. 1993 IHR _Journal_.  You
>                                 won't believe how ridiculous a story Moshe
>                                 Peer tells and writes!  And _The Gazette_ of
>                                 Montreal, Canada, publishes it as fact!
> MULTICUL.TXT   16399  01/01/93  "The Challenge of 'Multiculturalism' In How
>                                 Americans View the Past and the Future", by
>                                 Samuel Taylor, from the Summer 1992 _IHR
>                                 Journal_.
> MUSEUM.TXT     19963  04/21/93  "The U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum: A Costly
>                                 and Dangerous Mistake", by Theodore J.
>                                 O'Keefe.
> MUSEUMCH.TXT   21432  09/04/93  "THE U.S. HOLOCAUST MEMORIAL MUSEUM:  A
>                                 CHALLENGE", by Robert Faurisson, printed (in
>                                 translation) in the July/August 1993 IHR
>                                 _Journal_.
> NEVERFRG.TXT   24947  03/10/92  Witness for the Defense:  NEVER FORGET (the
>                                 inaccurate docudrama) and the Mermelstein vs.
>                                 IHR case.
> NEWATTAC.TXT    3468  09/02/93  "New Attack Against Faurisson and Rami in
>                                 Stockholm", from the July/August 1993 IHR
>                                 _Journal_.  Stick-wielding Jewish thugs once
>                                 again violently attacked Revisionists, this
>                                 time wounding two policemen!
> NEWREPUB.TXT    9538  01/01/93  A _New Republic_ article detailing the LIES
>                                 in the PBS "Liberators" special, which showed
>                                 a Black tank battalion "liberating"
>                                 Buchenwald.  The unique thing about it is
>                                 that the _New Republic_ is very Zionist.
> NONDEBAT.TXT   25572  12/16/93  Two articles on THE GREAT NON-DEBATE of 1989,
>                                 published in _Christian News_ (Feb. 27 and
>                                 March 13, 1989.)  This "non-debate" was
>                                 pledged to be "The Debate of the Century"
>                                 by the Holocaustomaniac side, which failed
>                                 to show up, using feeble excuses!
> NOTGUILT.TXT  115299  07/13/93  _Not Guilty at Nuremberg:  The German Defense
>                                 Case_, by Carlos Porter.  Very well written
>                                 and documented.
> OAHCNSRS.TXT   11768  09/06/93  "Organization of American Historians Censors
>                                 the IHR", from the July/August 1993 IHR
>                                 _Journal_.  This file also includes a list of
>                                 the IHR _Journal_'s Editorial Advisory
>                                 Committee members.
> OAHREFLE.TXT    9499  09/06/93  "The Organization of American Historians:
>                                 Faithfully Reflecting Academic Standards",
>                                 from the July/August 1993 IHR _Journal_.
>                                 Written by Mark Weber.
> PAVEDGOO.TXT   23062  06/25/93  Review of _PAVED WITH GOOD INTENTIONS: The
>                                 Failure of Race Relations in Contemporary
>                                 America_, by Jared Taylor. Reviewed by
>                                 Charles Stanwood in the March/April 1993 IHR
>                                 _Journal_.
> PENNSTAT.TXT    5769  09/12/93  "PENN STATE 'HOLOCAUST HISTORY' COURSE: A
>                                 LESSON IN IGNORANCE -- Professor Responds to
>                                 Revisionist Question By Calling Police", from
>                                 the September/October 1993 IHR _Journal_.
> PIPERVID.TXT    8909  01/12/93  "The Video that Justifies Buying a Video
>                                 Player" -- New Documentary Video Torpedos
>                                 Battleship Auschwitz!  "Gas Chambers" Suffer
>                                 Direct Hit!  DECADES-old, CONTINUING
>                                 "Holocaust" LIES CLEARLY EXPOSED!  Must see!
> PLAQUES.TXT     1332  03/10/92  "Auschwitz Plaques Gone" -- _The Oregonian_,
>                                 7/18/90, page A3.
> POLISH.TXT     20919  03/10/92  Polish report supports Leuchter:  the
>                                 Auschwitz "gas chambers" are fraudulent!
> PRESPOLI.TXT    3822  03/10/92  Holocaust Revisionism in Presidential
>                                 Politics:  Bush, Buchanan and Duke and
>                                 "Holocaust Denial".
> PRESSAC1.TXT  101246  09/26/93  "Improvised Gas Chambers & Casual Gassings
>                                 at Auschwitz & Birkenau, According to J.-C.
>                                 Pressac (1989) -- Part I", by Robert
>                                 Faurisson, from the Spring 1991 IHR
>                                 _Journal_.  [Part 1 of 2]
> PRESSAC2.TXT  105132  10/02/93  "Improvised Gas Chambers & Casual Gassings at
>                                 Auschwitz & Birkenau According to J.-C.
>                                 Pressac (1989) -- Part II", by Robert
>                                 Faurisson, from the Summer 1991 IHR
>                                 _Journal_.  [Part 2 of 2]
> RAVENREV.TXT   14329  06/19/93  "Dramatic New Videotape Presentation Takes
>                                 Aim at Key Holocaust Claims -- Auschwitz
>                                 Museum Official Admits 'Gas Chamber' is
>                                 Postwar Reconstruction", by Greg Raven, from
>                                 the IHR _Journal_, March/April 1993.
> REVMEDIA.TXT   61664  07/12/92  "More Media Attention for IHR and
>                                 Revisionism," plus the 2 university campus
>                                 newspaper ads calling for open debate on the
>                                 Holocaust issue!
> SCROLLSO.TXT    4655  03/10/92  FORTY YEAR OLD BAN ON DEAD SEA SCROLLS
>                                 LIFTED, _IHR Newsletter_ #82, October 1991.
> SCROLLSU.TXT    3232  03/10/92  An update on the situation with the Dead Sea
>                                 Scrolls, from the _IHR Newsletter_.  (Soon
>                                 before the ban was lifted.)
> SERBMYTH.TXT    4670  10/24/93  "A Request for Additional Information on the
>                                 Myth of the 'Gassing' of the Serbs in the
>                                 First World War", by Robert Faurisson, from
>                                 the Summer 1991 IHR _Journal_.  The myth of
>                                 the "gassing" of the Jews during the Second
>                                 World War is only a recycling of this myth.
> SEVENSIT.TXT   70129  10/16/93  "The Seven Auschwitz 'Gassing' Sites
>                                 According to J.C. Pressac", by Enrique Aynat,
>                                 from the Summer 1991 IHR _Journal_.
>                                 Translated by Tom Kerr.
> SIMONLIE.ZIP  293669  10/22/93  YES, VIRGINIA:  WIESENTHAL DOES LIE.  "The
>                                 Sleight-of-Hand of Simon Wiesenthal", by Mark
>                                 Weber and Keith Stimely, from the Spring 1984
>                                 IHR _Journal_.  Includes two GIF files which
>                                 demonstrate this particular lie of Simon's.
> SIMONWIE.TXT   19904  03/10/92  "SIMON WIESENTHAL: Bogus 'Nazi Hunter'", by
>                                 Mark Weber.
> SOAPSCAM.TXT   40098  02/18/92  "RUB-A-DUB-DUB"  Notes On the Jewish-Soap
>                                 Scam.
> STARVEGE.TXT    4342  03/10/92  "Did the Americans starve to death German
>                                 POWs in camps like this?"
> SUPPAPER.TXT   61826  06/15/93  "The Suppressed Eichmann and Goebbels
>                                 Papers", presented by British historian David
>                                 Irving at the Eleventh IHR Conference,
>                                 October 1992.  Includes question & answer
>                                 session after.  Very informative!
> THEFRAUD.TXT   23404  11/22/93  THE HOLOCAUST FRAUD.  Author of this essay is
>                                 unknown.  I received it in the mail with no
>                                 name or address.  Very informative essay.
> THUGS.TXT       4272  03/10/92  Thugs Attack Revisionist Speaker [David Cole,
>                                 who is Jewish] at UCLA Meeting -- JDL
>                                 ["Jewish Defense League"] Hoodlums Break Up
>                                 Debate.  JDL leader Irv Rubin (who has been
>                                 arrested on a charge of hiring a hit man to
>                                 kill someone else) even tried to push Cole
>                                 down a flight of stairs!
> TRTHPREV.TXT   18904  01/19/93  REVIEW: Book-Length "Scholarly" Polemic Fails
>                                 to Discredit Leuchter -- _TRUTH PREVAILS:
>                                 Demolishing Holocaust Denial:  The End of the
>                                 Leuchter Report_.  (See LEUCVIND.TXT for a
>                                 thorough technical analysis.)
> UNDRFIRE.TXT   17948  01/30/93  "The Wages of Apostasy: LIFE UNDER FIRE", by
>                                 David Irving.  (Presented at the Eleventh IHR
>                                 Conference, October 1992).
> VINDFORD.TXT    6043  09/20/93  "VINDICATION FOR DEMJANJUK", from the
>                                 September/October 1993 IHR _Journal_.
> WIESEL-3.TXT    2281  09/12/93  "Holocaust Survivor's Stories Contradictory"
>                                 -- Nobel Peace Prize winner (and professional
>                                 "Holocaust survivor") Elie Wiesel is caught
>                                 telling 3 very contradictory stories about
>                                 which "death camp" he was liberated from!
> ZUNDEL12.TXT   44451  02/04/92  The two THOUGHT CRIME TRIALS of Ernst Zundel
>                                 for publishing a revisionist version of the
>                                 "Holocaust".
> ZUNDELWI.TXT   14507  10/27/92  "ZUNDEL WINS IN CANADA'S SUPREME COURT:
>                                 Victory for Free Speech and Revisionism; Now
>                                 Free, Zundel Counters New Attacks;
>                                 Vindication After Nine Years of Legal
>                                 Struggle", from the Oct. '92 _IHR Newsletter_
> 
> 
>  ________________________________
> |                                |
> | Media Control files available: |
> |________________________________|
> 
> 
> JPFOGUN.TXT    14440  03/22/92  Jewish pro-gun group AGREES with "WHO RUNS THE
>                                 MEDIA?  The Alarming Facts"
> MEDIARUN.TXT   28840  03/22/92  "WHO RUNS THE MEDIA?  The Alarming Facts"
> NEWHOUSE.TXT    3967  01/28/93  "The House of Newhouse" -- info. on one of
>                                 the Zionist/Jewish media giants that rule
>                                 America.  Newhouse owns Portland's _The
>                                 Oregonian_, _This Week_, _The Downtowner_
>                                 and many others.
> WHORULES.TXT   31878  11/25/92  "WHO RULES AMERICA?"  Must read!  Shocking
>                                 facts!
> 
> 
>  ________________________________
> |                                |
> | Miscellaneous files available: |
> |________________________________|
> 
> 
> BANFTP-L.TXT   [updated often]  List of all files available from Banished
>                                 CPU's FTP Mail Server.  (The file you are
>                                 reading now.)
> BANFILES.LST   [updated daily]  Banished CPU's master file list [ASCII form]
>                                 This is the list of all files that can be
>                                 downloaded directly from Banished CPU.  As of
>                                 12/15/93, this file was 462589 bytes in size.
>                                 Call 503-232-6566 (14.4k) to connect directly.
> BANFILES.ZIP   [updated daily]  Banished CPU's master file list [ZIP'd]
>                                 As of 12/15/93, this file was 161581 bytes in
>                                 size.
> PDXSBCPU.TXT   19125  10/31/93  "CYBER POST-IT NOTES", by Mitzi Waltz,
>                                 from _PDXS_ magazine, 9/27/93 issue.  Quotes:
>                                 "It's midnight, and the line at Banished CPU
>                                 is still busy."  "Politics, that other topic
>                                 banned at grandma's dinner table, is rarely
>                                 ignored on BBSes.  Banished CPU ... probably
>                                 has the most wide-ranging discussions on the
>                                 subject in Portland.  In fact, it may be the
>                                 only place where rabid white supremacists,
>                                 gays, knee-jerk liberals, anarchists, Ross
>                                 Perot supporters, and everyone in between have
>                                 regular conversations.  Not necessarily *nice*
>                                 conversations, but at least people are
>                                 talking.  Sysop Maynard and I will never
>                                 agree on politics but we agree that free
>                                 speech is a wonderful thing."
> _____________________________________________________________________________
> 
> 
>                     Banished CPU supports Freedom of Speech!
>           ___________________________________________________________
>          |                                                           |
>          |  For 300-9600 bps (3 lines w/V.32) call:  (503) 232-5783  |
>          |  For 14400 bps (2 lines w/V.32bis) call:  (503) 232-6566  |
>          |___________________________________________________________|
> 
>                         Sysop: Maynard "the Main Nerd"
> 
> [end of file]
> 
> 


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Subject: a simple guide to my remailer (fwd)
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Subject: a simple guide to my remailer
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 02:03:27 -0800
From: Eric Hollander <hh@soda.berkeley.edu>


Here's the Official Guide to the hh remailer.  Please post this wherever you
think people will find it useful.

-----
How to use the hh@soda.berkeley.edu Usenet poster and Anonymous Remailer
by Eric Hollander

This document describes some of the special features of the
hh@soda.berkeley.edu remailer.  Because this remailer is essentially just a
modification of the standard Cypherpunk's Remailer, I recomend that you also
read soda.berkeley.edu:/pub/cypherpunks/remailer/hal's.remailer.gz.

= What does this remailer do?

This remailer allows anyone who can send mail to post to Usenet newsgroups,
and also to send mail to anyone else on the Internet.  Both of these
functions can be anonymous (the identity of the sender is hidden from the
recipient) or non-anonymous (the identity of the sender is known to the
recipient).

= Why is this remailer different from the standard Cypherpunks remailers?

The main difference between this remailer and the other Cypherpunk remailers
is that this remailer allows posting to all Usenet newsgroups, either
anonymously, or non-anonymously.  It also has the regular remailer functions
of forwarding mail, either anonymously or non-anonymously (nonymously?).
The other minor difference is that this remailer adds a random time delay
for anonymous mail and posting.

= A note about header fields

This remailer/poster looks at the header of the mail you send it to decide
what to do.  Some mail programs don't allow easy editting of the header.  If
your program doesn't allow editting of the header, you can still use the
remailer.  To do this, send mail in the normal way, but start your message
like this:

	::
	Anon-Post-To: rec.fish

leaving no blank lines before the :: and a blank line after the header field
to be inserted.  The remailer will consider the line after the :: to be a
part of the header.  All of the instructions bellow can be used with actual
header fields or the :: format.

= How do I use this remailer to anonymously post to Usenet?

Send mail to hh@soda.berkeley.edu with a header like this:

	To: hh@soda.berkeley.edu
	Anon-Post-To: rec.fish
	Subject: I flushed a fish on Friday

	On Friday, I did a terrible thing, so I'm posting
	this anonymously...

This message will be posted to rec.fish, with nothing to indicate who was
the original sender.  Only the Subject field will be retained; everything
else in the header will be discarded.

= How do I post non-anonymously?

Send mail like this:

	To: hh@soda.berkeley.edu
	Post-To: rec.fish
	Subject: flushing fish

	How despicable of you to flush a fish!

This will be posted to rec.fish non-anonymously; the From and Subject fields
will be retained in the post.

= Crossposting

To crosspost, simply list the newsgroups, separated by commas, with no
spaces, like this:

	Anon-Post-To: rec.fish,alt.ketchup

Note that excessive crossposting is an abuse of the net.  Some people have
to pay for their news, and they don't want to read "how to make money fast"
in rec.fish.

= Testing

I recomend that you post test messages to make sure you are using the
remailer properly.  Please post these messages to the appropriate test
groups (alt.test, rec.test, etc).  Also, if you post non-anonymously to a
test group, many sites will send you mail confirming that they have received
the post.  To avoid this, put the word "ignore" in the subject line.

= Anonymous mail

This remailer is capable of sending anonymous mail.  To send mail to
foo@bar.com, send a message like this:

	To: hh@soda.berkeley.edu
	Anon-Send-To: foo@bar.com
	Subject: Ronald Sukenick

	I think you should read something by Ronald Sukenick.

and foo@bar.com will recieve the message, without knowing who sent it.

= Non-anonymous mail forwarding

This remailer supports non-anonymous mail forwarding.  To use this feature,
send mail like this:

	To: hh@soda.berkeley.edu
	Send-To: foo@bar.com
	Subject: you know who I am

	This mail is from me!

= Testing mail

Please test the anonymous remailer functions before you use it "for real" by
sending mail to yourself or a friend.

= Chaining, encryption, and other issues

These features are discussed in detail in
soda.berkeley.edu:/pub/cypherpunks/remailer/hal's.remailer.gz.  While you're
looking at that file, you might also want to check out PGP in
/pub/cypherpunks/pgp.  If you haven't installed PGP on your machine yet, you
should try it out.  This remailer doesn't yet support encryption, but it's
coming soon.

= Remailer abuse

This remailer has been abused in the past, mostly by users hiding behind
anonymity to harass other users.  I will take steps to squish users who do
this.  Lets keep the net a friendly and productive place.

= A note to ucb users

This remailer allows posting to ucb.* newsgroups.

= If you have other questions or problems

send normal mail (without any of the above headers) to hh@soda.berkeley.edu.

= Copyright

This file is copyright 1994 Eric Hollander, all rights reserved.  You are
free to distribute this information in electronic format provided that the
contents are unchanged and this copyright notice remains attached.

= Disclaimer

This remailer is not endorsed in any way by the University of California.
I, Eric Hollander, take no responsibility for the content of posts or
messages, and I take no responsibility for the consequences of using my
remailer.  For example, if you post anonymously, and someone manages to
trace it back to you, I am not responsible.


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Hi all.

If you haven't tried out the local gopher here (accessable by typing 
gopher wps.com) you may want to give it a shot. I've included several 
things that I hope everyone finds interesting. 


In the past couple of days, I've forwarded a message concerning Bruce 
Sterling's book 'The Hacker Crackdown.' If you haven't read it, it's 
really a well reasearched book, and fairly non-biased. Sterling has seen 
fit to release it onto those whom have computer internet access. You can 
read it, by accessing the electronic-universe section, and choosing the 
appropriate catagory.

Enjoy!



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                            THE CYBER SLEAZE REPORT
                                       
Wednesday January 12, 1994
==========================================================================

The following materials are copyrighted by CurryCo Ltd. and may not be
re-distributed or Duplicated for any other means than personal entertainment.
Failure is subject to prosecution.
==========================================================================

In an exclusive bit of rather "twisted" news, it seens that MICHAEL HUTCHENCE,
INXS frontman, gets a kick out of playing with his nipples. He told me, "I've
got really sensitive nipples and I'm quite fixated on them. "They're always
erect. Never knowingly limp." Hey, thank god it's only his nips!

Two nine-year-old twins from Virginia are defending MICHAEL JACKSON in song.
The twins, who call themselves BACK 2 BACK, will release a song supporting
Jackson on their debut album, which is due in February. The song includes the
lines "This is dedicated to you Michael from all the kids throughout the world.
We love you! Michael, Michael, Michael, Michael."

BILL WYMAN is fast becoming an English country squire after quitting the
ROLLING STONES last year. Wyman lives in Gedding Hall, an imposing 15th century
moated mansion in Suffolk, England. Up until now the Bill has only had 30 acres
of surrounding land. But he has just snapped up another 115 acres of land. Only
thing missing now are the peasants.

In potentially devestating new for BROOKE SHIELDS, The Australian who she dated
during her down under tour has someone else - just four months after swearing
his love for Brooke. The culprit is none other than my old friend and MTV
Australia VJ RICHARD WILKINS. The deal is that when Brooke left Australia to
return home to America, Richard hitched up again with his long time girlfriend
MICHELLE BURKE, 32. Guests at their wedding including INXS's TIM FARRISS.
Congrats to Richard, and bummer for Brooke.

I've just learned that rock star ADAM CLAYTON is planning an unusual wedding
present for fiancee NAOMI CAMPBELL - he's going to transform her from a
supermodel into a pop star. Clayton decided to use the music muscle of his
group U2 to help Campbell top the charts after she sang for him in private. He
hopes her album will be released soon after their wedding day on Valentine's
Day in February. But, it seems that Clayton is having problems booking a
studio. U2's studio in Dublin is booked in January, and the couple are
searching for another so that Campbell can rush out the wedding album. Hey
guys, if the LP flops, is the wedding off??
==========================================================================

Cyber-Sleaze is copyright 1993 by CurryCo Ltd.
_______________________________________________________________________________
    Cyber Sleaze, Adam Curry


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By KAREN MARTIN
Managing Editor

A video replay of TechUs Sept. 4 game at Tennessee on Louisiana Cablevision Channel 38 in Monroe last Thursday night revealed a bit more than just pigskin.

The game film, which is produced at Tech, was shown with about 10 minutes of an explicit pornographic video dubbed at the end.

Athletic Director Jerry Stovall issued a statement about the incident, but refused to comment further.

RTech has learned that some objectionable material ran following completion of its playback of the Tennessee game on Louisiana Cablevision Thursday night, and the university joins Louisiana Cablevision in a public apology for this inexcusable mistake,S Stovall said.

He added that RMeasures have been taken to insure that this type of mistake will never occur again.S

Cablevision replays TechUs games at 8 p.m. every Thursday on Channel 38 in Monroe.

The game film for Sept. 4 ran about 90 minutes, followed by about two minutes of dead time, then approximately 10 minutes of pornography.

CablevisionUs Steve Wentworth said the tape is played by automation, therefore it ran until the end.

Ron Phillips, Cablevision general manager said, RWhen we received the tape, thatUs the way we received it,S 

Approximately 50 people called Cablevision to complain or even inquire about other viewings of the tape.  

Tech President Dan Reneau also expressed his concern about the video replay. It Rwas a terribly regrettable incident...something happened and we need to find out what,S he said.

RThatUs not our athletic department, thatUs not our team and thatUs not Tech,S Reneau said.


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From: "Eric S. Theise" <verve@well.sf.ca.us>
Message-Id: <199401140251.SAA12743@well.sf.ca.us>
Subject: Ovett harrassment
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Hi All;

Pauline Oliveros asked me to forward this press release to people who
might help get the word out.  Hope you don't mind me sending it on to
you.  I've posted it here in the WELL's news conference.

Thanks, Eric

--
 
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
January 10, 1994
For more information,  Contact:
Christine Ahern (914) 658-3645
 
 
COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS TERRORIZED BY RIGHT WING
ULSTER COUNTY RESIDENTS RESPOND
RENO URGED TO TAKE ACTION
 
Ovett, MS  Brenda and Wanda Henson, longtime community organizers in
southern Mississippi are currently the target of a terrorizing campaign
to throw them off their land.  Incidents include death threats, bomb
threats, shots fired at their land, and other human rights violations
brought on by right wing church related groups in the area.  A call for
support has been issued as well as a call for protection from U.S.
Attorney General Janet Reno.  Two Ulster County residents will travel
to Ovett to aid in the campaign to help them remain on their land.

The harassment is both homophobic and racist.  The Hensons are lesbians
who have been organizing the Gulf Coast Womyn's Festival in Gulfport,
MS for the last six years.  They bought their 120 acre Ovett farm,
which they named Camp Sister Spirit, in July.  Plans for the land
include holding the 7th annual Gulf Coast Womyn's Festival, and
creating a year round educational and cultural center.  Their daughter,
Andrea Gibbs, has been active in prison reform.  While working as a
corrections officer, Gibbs exposed brutality against inmates.  A
statewide investigation followed, resulting in the closure of four
county jails, including the facility in Jones County where the Hensons
and Gibbs reside.

Local right wing churches and townspeople are organizing against these
women.  They have called two meetings, chaired by the town sheriff, to
strategize ways to remove them from their land.  Two hundred and fifty
people attended a December 6 meeting.  An early January meeting drew
four hundred including a film crew from the television news show
20/20.  In addition to death threats, fire bomb threats, shots fired
onto their property, and armed trespassers found on their land, some
local businesses have refused them service.

Ulster County residents Pat Humphries and Gale McGovern are traveling
to Ovett on January 12.  They will be a part of a group of people
arriving at the farm to help the Hensons in their struggle to remain on
their land and protect their civil rights.  Humphries is a political
singer and songwriter whose work focuses on a variety of social justice
issues.  McGovern is a political organizer well known in Ulster County
for her work to encourage the county legislature to create a human
rights law that would protect people on the basis of sexual
orientation.

The situation in Ovett has received some national media attention from
National Public Radio, The New York Times, and Newsweek .  The Hensons
have also appeared on the Oprah Winfrey Show and a 20/20 segment will
air later this month.

There will be a local rally and benefit concert on February 3, 1994 at
a location to be announced.  People are urged to write or call Janet
Reno (202) 514-2001 to request federal intervention in this situation.

-- 
  Eric S. Theise <verve@well.sf.ca.us>
  P.O. Box 460177, San Francisco, CA 94146.0177
  Internet Domain Editor, Millennium Whole Earth Catalog
  The WELL: internet, matrix, & news conference host + gophermeister


-- 
 Tom Jennings -- tomj@wps.com -- World Power Systems --  San Francisco, Calif.

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Subject: TV: Nova & Crypto (fwd)
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Forwared from flesh/from cypherpunks. If you were curious about the PGP
and cryptographical stuff mentioned occasionally in the press and net,
but not curious enough to jump in and ask these idiots to explain what
they're talking about in plain language, likely the TV show will cover
that. It is actually an intersting subject...


> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 94 21:14:15 CST
> From: Karl Lui Barrus <klbarrus@owlnet.rice.edu>
> To: cypherpunks@toad.com
> Subject: TV: Nova & Crypto
> 
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> 
> Cypherpunks,
> 
> On a different note, I see that the NOVA episode on Tuesday the 25th
> of January is supposed to cover cryptography.  It looks like
> historical stuff (Zimmerman note, Enigma, Purple, William Friedman,
> etc.) and may not cover any "current" issues :-)
> 
> But it should be interesting.
> 
> 
> 
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> Version: 2.3a
> 
> iQCVAgUBLTYN1oOA7OpLWtYzAQGemwP/b+cxMmxlIZatbOC9/6l/sBWu+RhXz4Gf
> hTsoChT99JT70lAsORVMd95m75KTy4jtxQrr7YXGrGKmCsDq95UOkDg9jSDcawlv
> kl6Yai16Yc9ikE/YjnPZCxSu62OvPxYnpRfhUPGe9qxkFkex8TlZ7SE3UFcMr2WR
> s66A0C1/+Fo=
> =AKuN
> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-- 
 Tom Jennings -- tomj@wps.com -- World Power Systems --  San Francisco, Calif.

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Subject: Contra.Costa.Times.slander.local.bay.area.bbs.systems.


This article appeared as the FRONT PAGE story in the July 28,1993 issue of 
The Contra Costa Times.  Full of distortions and humorous leaps of logic, I
think you'll find it as amusing as I did.  Can you say "slow news day?"

Biffnix

==========================================================================

MODEM OPERANDI: Tips on crime go on-line
by: Michael Liedtke
staff writer for the Contra Costa Times
Wednesday, July 28, 1993

Tips on how to commit fraud, murder and other mayhem are just a
phone call away in the Bay Area, courtesy of rabble-rousing
electronic bulletin boards that turn the personal computer into a
clearinghouse for crime.

Using the First Amendment as a legal shield, a group of electronic
bulletin boards in the Bay Area has created an information network
providing criminal insights to anyone with a phone, personal
computer and modem.

Essentially, these computer forums, known as bulletin board
services, are electronic libraries.  While some computer bulletin
boards are limited to paying subscribers, the rebel network
distributing criminal expertise is open to everyone, free of
charge.

Most of the bulletin board files can be fetched over phone lines
and brought into the caller's home.  In turn, callers to the
bulletin boards are encouraged to send in files, so the systems
can accumulate advice from experts and novices.

More than 45,000 computer users have called an underground Bay Area
bulletin board, known as "Lies Unlimited," that offers a
roguish gallery of information.  File titles include:

     o     "How to Make Your Own Valid American Express Card"
     o     "How to Rob a Bank"
     o     "How to Break Into Houses"
     o     "Stealing Toyotas and What to Do With Them"
     o     "Simple Way to Make a Car Go BOOM!"
     o     "Twenty-two Ways to Kill"

The bulletin boards also have other categories offering
more-mainstream advice and entertainment, but they appear to be
primarily interested in promoting disorder.

In a self-description appearing on a bulletin board review, Lies
Unlimited said it tries to focus "on political realities.  The
point being that this reality is created by consensus, and the only
way to change the reality is to change the consensus."

Lies Unlimited plans to shut down today and reopen next month after
the system operator, listed as Mick Freen, moves from South San
Francisco, to Salt Lake City.  Mischievous information similar to
Lies Unlimited's archives remains available on several other Bay
Area bulletin boards, including a Walnut Creek-based system known
as "And the Temple of the Screaming Electron."

Based on computer files retrieved by the Times, other
contributors in this unorthodox network include "My Dog Bit
Jesus" in Berkeley, "realitycheck," in Albany, "Burn This Flag" in
San Jose and "The New Dork Sublime" in San Francisco.

Among them, the bulletin boards offer hundreds of files providing
instructions on credit card fraud, money laundering, mail fraud,
counterfeiting, drug smuggling, cable-tv theft, bomb-making and
murder.

The Times left electronic messages on several of those bulletin
boards seeking interviews with the system operators.  None of the
operators responded by late Tuesday.

Virtually anyone who understands how to use a computer and modem
can tap into the rogue bulletin boards, if they have the phone
numbers.  The boards allow callers to create their own logons
and passwords, opening the door for kids to get into the system.
Based on their content, the bulletin boards appear to be
particularly popular among teen-agers.

"This shows why people need to be much more aware of what kids
are doing with their computers," said Hans Von Braun, a
computer security expert who works for San Francisco-based Comsec.

One bulletin board, Burn This Flag, requires callers to fill out
an application before gaining access to an adults-only section
that contains files describing "bizarre sexual behavior."  But in
a written message, Burn This Flag's system operator, known
as "Zardoz," acknowledges there is no foolproof way to ensure
all users of the adult section are at least 18.

The Times isn't publishing the phone numbers of the rebel bulletin
boards as a children's safeguard.

The bulletin boards remain open by straddling a fine line between
the legal definitions of free speech and criminal behavior.

Under First Amendment rights guaranteeing free speech, the
law allows the bulletin boards to serve as criminal primers, as
long as the advice is limited to generic instructions.
Essentially, it's legal for  individuals to discuss how to commit
a crime as long as they don't solicit or encourage the commission
of a crime.

"We're aware of these types of bulletin boards," said Rick Smith,
an FBI spokesman in San Francisco.  "But to shut them down, you

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Don't throw out the computer with the crime
Chicago Tribune (CT) - FRIDAY September 10, 1993
By:  Dick Adler
Edition:  NORTH SPORTS FINAL   Section: PERSPECTIVE   Page: 23
Word Count:  1,137

MEMO:
Dick Adler, a Los Angeles writer, editor, reviewer and electronic
publisher, is working on a book called "TALKING WITH STRANGERS: On the
Frontier of Computer Communications."

TEXT:
    What is there about the words "computer" and "crime" in the same
sentence that makes even the coolest of media heads bubble and boil over?
Although more and more of us use computers in our daily lives, is it
because we have so little idea of how or why they work that we give them
magical, even demonic powers? Does the ghost of HAL-the rebellious computer
in the film "2001"-still hover over us, making us worry about losing
control?

    Suppose you're a reporter for a small daily newspaper. You use a
computer to write and edit your stories, and you even have a modem that
connects you by telephone to an on-line information service such as Prodigy
or CompuServe. But you haven't really had any adventures out there in the
electronic world known as Cyberspace: You have never called a local
bulletin board or tried to understand the mysteries of the giant egghead
system known as the Internet.

    Suppose it's a slow news day, and you get a call from a computer
security specialist with a hot tip. Did you know that by dialing a local
number, computer users of any age in this very area can get information on
all sorts of criminal activities, from bomb-making to credit card fraud? Is
this a great story, or what?

    That's what happened recently to reporter Michael Liedtke of the Contra
Costa Times. Checking out a tip about a loose confederation of bulletin
boards called NIRVANANet in the San Francisco Bay area, Liedtke must have
heard those Pulitzer judges humming in the background as he typed his
savage yet bouncy indictment.

    "Tips on how to commit fraud, murder and other mayhem are just a phone
call away in the Bay Area, courtesy of rabble-rousing electronic bulletin
boards that turn the personal computer into a clearinghouse for crime," he
began. "More than 45,000 computer users have called an underground Bay Area
bulletin board, known as 'Lies Unlimited,' (one of the NIRVANANet
members) that offers a roguish gallery of information. File titles include:
'How to Make Your Own Valid American Express Card,' 'How to Rob a Bank,'
'How to Break Into Houses,' 'Stealing Toyotas and What to Do With Them,'
'Simple Way to Make a Car Go BOOM!' and 'Twenty-two Ways to Kill.' "

    Strong stuff. The trouble-as the people who run the bulletin boards in
question plus many hundreds of their supporters soon pointed out-was that
every single one of the files listed by Liedtke was already freely
available in books (such as "The Anarchist's Cook Book") at local libraries
and bookstores. Had the tipster mentioned that, the reporter would probably
have stifled a yawn and written about something else. But those devil words
" computer" and "crime" in conjunction pushed him over the edge.

    Recently in the Chicago area, a man who operated a computer bulletin
board in Des Plaines was indicted for allowing a 12-year-old Chicago boy
access to pornographic material in a supposedly "adults-only" section of
the board.  The story as depicted in the media conjured up a vivid picture
of pre-teen computer nerds blithely downloading material that would make
the owner of an adult book-and-video store either blanch or turn green with
envy.
    Without getting anywhere near that briarpatch of 1st Amendment rights
vs. the flat-out illegality of supplying pornography to minors, at least
two points might be made here. First, it is not as easy as the media make
it sound for computer users of any age to get access to adult material,
because operators of bulletin board systems know they can go to jail and/or
lose all their expensive equipment if convicted of supplying pornography to
minors. So they've set up the same kind of checks-signed statements of age,
driver's license photographs, credit card payment, passwords-that magazine
publishers and video rental stores use. These checks aren't foolproof, of
course, but any computer-smart 12-year-old who can crack a bulletin board's
moderately elaborate security can also probably figure out some other way
to see dirty pictures and movies.

    Second, the pornography available on computer bulletin boards is
exactly the same stuff to be found at print and video outlets. Just because
it comes through a computer doesn't give it any special powers of "virtual
reality" or high quality. In fact, even the best animated graphics on

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Got this off the cypherpunks list a while ago. Thought I'd share
sorry, folks. just couldn`t pass up the chance tp pass this along.

 
> From: strnlght@netcom.com
> Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
> Subject: (none)
> Date: 4 Jan 94 02:41:56 GMT
> 
> 
>         __________________
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> --
> David Sternlight         When the mouse laughs at the cat,
>                          there is a hole nearby.--Nigerian Proverb
 


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Subject: A game for the 90's
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This was taken fro Odyssey. One of the trashiest magazine in San 
Francisco. Pick up a copy if you can....

MUNI MAYHEM: A GAME FOR OUR 90'S

By  Todd Rosin

  Maybe it was that afternoon back in 1973 when I played Mystery Date 
with the cute guy next door - or maybe it was that crazed naked Monopoly 
match at the frat house - but somthing along the way made me a major game 
player. Now I don't mean the kind of game my freind plays where I say I 
think and he goes over and introduces himself. I mean fun games. The kind 
of games where the winner and loser can both admit that they had fun and 
go have a cup of coffee or get in a sling or whatever. In this happy 
spirit, I've invented MUNI MAYHEM. I don't have all day to explain the 
rules so I kept it simple. Here goes: just xerox (or copy) this page and 
hand it out to your freinds/roomates/tricks/fellow employees/needle 
exchange social worker, et al, before you go to work to or from muni. 
Then every time something listed on the page occurs, you check it off and 
get that many points. (It works best, obviously, if you have people 
playing on different lines.) The most points wins. Remember, you're on 
the honor system. Any questions? Too bad! Have fun!

		MUNI MAYHEM	

INCIDENT					   POINTS	
--------					   ------
__1.  Train makes unexplained stop in empty tunnel.   5
__2.  Someone pulls "stop request" cord on train      5
      for Embarcadero.
__3.  Deafening "ping" sound before announcment.      5
__4.  Fat person on bus or train takes up two seats.  5
__5.  Drunks argue pointlessly in the back.          10 
__6.  Cute guy (or girl) sits next to you.	     10
__7.  Crazed bum rants about 60's social issues as   15
      if they ever mattered.
__8.  Greasy trust fund kid stinks up the whole bus  20
      with patchouli oil.
__9.  Owl service full of menacing thugs. 	     20
__10. Wrong station announced. You get off.	     25
__11. Breakdown! 40 minute wait.		     25
__12. Fast Pass expired! Driver doesn't care.	     25
__13. Bus power pole slip off wires.		     25
__14. Wet graffiti ruins your clothes.		     30
__15. Train slams on brakes, at least three old      30     
      ladies fall down.
__16. While boarding the train, you're swept away    30
      in a torrent of Chinese ladies.
__17. Stink-o! Mayor Jordan is on your bus.    Loose 50
__18. A Falcon star is on your bus!		     50
__19. Bus drives past your stop.		     50
__20. Someone gives their seat to a lady	    100

BONUS QUESTION

__21. Fuck muni. You've got a car.		    500


TOTAL SCORE				         ______




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(This document has been brought to you in part by CRAM. See the 
bottom for more information, including instructions on how to
obtain updates.)

===

This is a summary of electronically-accessible zines.  The format of this 
document should be fairly self-explanatory.  In most cases, descriptions are 
excerpted from the masthead of the zine listed.


RECENT CHANGES TO THIS LIST

  Additions:
    Bad Subjects
    Bits and Bytes Online
    Chaos Corner
    Dogwood Blossoms
    The Neon Gargoyle Gazette
    Slither
    The Trincoll Journal
    Twilight Zone

  Changes:
    Cousins: corrected FTP entry
    DargonZine: added USENET entry
    FactSheetFive-Electric: changed phone number
    FSFNet: corrected editor's e-mail address; added explanation
    InterText: added WWW & GEnie entries

 
ADMINISTRIVIA

If you have any additions, deletions, or changes to this list, please email
them to johnl@netcom.com.

A notice about new editions of this list is posted to the following 
mailing lists:

  Net_Info@gibbs.oit.unc.edu
  ZINES-L@uriacc.uri.edu
  
The full text is posted to the following USENET newsgroups:

  alt.zines
  alt.etext
  misc.writing
  rec.mag
  alt.internet.services
  
It can also be obtained via anonymous FTP from netcom.com as 
"/pub/johnl/zines/e-zine-list", via gopher at gopher.well.sf.ca.us and 
etext.archive.umich.edu, and via email from me (johnl@netcom.com).

If you publish an e-zine, or know someone who does, please send a copy to 
me and I'll add the relevant info to this database.

Comments, suggestions, changes, deletions, etc., are welcomed and encouraged.


WHAT IS A "ZINE"?

For those of you not acquainted with the zine world, "zine" is short for 
either "fanzine" or "magazine," depending on your point of view.  Zines are 
generally produced by one person or a small group of people, done often for 
fun or personal reasons, and tend to be irreverent, bizarre, and/or esoteric.  
Zines are not "mainstream" publications -- they generally do not contain
advertisements (except, sometimes, advertisements for other zines), do not 
have a large subscriber base, and are generally not produced to make a profit.


FORMATS

Most e-zines listed here are in standard ASCII text format, which you can read
on just about any computer or terminal, and print on any printer.  A few are
available in PostScript for printing on a laser printer (or viewing on-screen
if you have a PostScript interpreter in your window system).  A small number 
are available in some system-specific format (i.e., Macintosh HyperCard).


HOW DO I GET THE E-ZINES?

I have listed the various methods of access for each particular
e-zine.  Briefly, I use the following:

  FTP -- File Transfer Protocol
    Only accessible if you are directly on the Internet, or know of an
    FTP-mail server (I don't).  The host/pathname is given in the form
    (host:path) that certain FTPs (like NCFTP) can use directly; otherwise, 
    you'd probably type "ftp host" and then "cd path" or some such.  All
    FTP sites listed accept anonymous logins (use "ftp" as username and your 
    email address as password).
    
  E-Mail -- Electronic Mail
    You can usually request current or back issues via this address.  
    Sometimes a site will run a mail server that automates some of this work.  
    Instructions are listed, if applicable.
    
  Usenet -- Usenet News
    Only accessible if your site carries the specific Usenet group.
    
  Gopher
    Only accessible if your site is directly on the Internet.  Try typing
    "gopher".  If it works, you have a gopher client, and can usually type
    "gopher host".
    
  WWW -- World Wide Web
    Only accessible if your site is directly on the Internet, and supports a
    WWW-compatible hypertext browser.  Current browsers include www (ASCII 
    line mode), lynx (ASCII full-screen mode), xmosaic (X Windows), Mac Mosaic 
    (Macintosh), PC Mosaic (PC), Cello (PC), and probably a few others.
    
  Postal
    Last resort, or point of contact for zines that have paper editions.
    
  Phone
    Why?  I dunno; because it was there.
  
  CompuServe
    You know, that out-dated system that charges ridiculous rates.
    
  Other
    BBSes and other on-line systems the zine resides on.
    
    
SYSTEMS ARCHIVING E-ZINES

The following are sites that archive e-zines.  Many of them are primary
archive points for e-zines in this list.

FTP:
  ftp.eff.org
  etext.archive.umich.edu
  ftp.cic.net
  quartz.rutgers.edu
  ftp.msen.com
  ftp.halcyon.com
  world.std.com
  netcom.com:/pub/johnl/zines
  nigel.msen.com:/pub/newsletters
  grind.isca.uiowa.edu:/info/journals
  nic.cic.net:pub/nircomm/gopher/e-serials
  
Gopher:
  gopher.eff.org
  etext.archive.umich.edu (mirrors all FTPable files)
  gopher.cic.net
  gopher.msen.com
  gopher.well.sf.ca.us
  world.std.com
  gopher.unt.edu


THE E-ZINES

Albert Hofmann's Strange Mistake
 "A hypertext 'zine commemorating the 50th anniversary of the accidental 
  discovery of LSD, 16 April, 1943.  The document contains archives by 
  authorities from Albert Hofmann to Abbie Hoffman, hypertext fac/tion 
  on CIA-sponsored acid tests, and testimonials solicited from users all
  over the world."

  Editor(s): Bobby Rabyd <ST001747@Brownvm.Brown.Edu>
     Format: Storyspace (Macintosh hypertext application)
        FTP: brownvm.brown.edu:/pub/bobby_rabyd/


The Amateur Computerist

  Editor(s): Ronda Hauben <ae547@yfn.ysu.edu> or <ronda@umcc.umich.edu> 
             Michael Hauben <hauben@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: wuarchive.wustl.edu:/doc/misc/acn
     E-Mail: <au329@cleveland.freenet.edu> or <ae547@yfn.ysu.edu>
     Usenet: alt.amateur-comp
     Postal: R. Hauben, P.O. Box 4344, Dearborn, MI 48126, USA


Arm The Spirit
 "Arm The Spirit is a anti-imperialist/autonomist collective that 
  disseminates information about liberation struggles in advanced capitalist 
  countries and in the so-called 'Third World.'  Our focus is on armed 
  struggle and other forms of militant resistance but we do not limit 
  ourselves to this.  In Arm The Spirit you can find news on political 
  prisoners in North America and Europe, information on the struggles of 
  Indigenous peoples in the Americas, communiques from guerrilla groups, 
  debate and discussion on armed struggle and much more. We also attempt 
  to cover anti-colonial national liberation struggles in Kurdistan, 
  Puerto Rico, Euskadi and elsewhere."

  Editor(s): Autonome Forum <aforum@moose.uvm.edu>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Politics/Arm.the.Spirit
     Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu
             gopher.well.sf.ca.us
     E-Mail: aforum@moose.uvm.edu, subject: "ATS: e-mail request"
     Postal: Arm The Spirit, c/o Wild Seed Press, POB 57584, Jackson Stn.,
               Hamilton, Ontario, L8P 4X3, Canada
             Arm The Spirit, c/o Autonome Forum, POB 1242,
               Burlington, VT 05402-1242, USA
      Phone: +1 416 527 2419 (FAX for Canadian group)


Armadillo Culture
 "Being the excremeditation of a hyperactive armadillo's activities, 
  opinions, and other stuff..."

  Editor(s): Steve Okay <sokay@mitre.org>
     Format: ASCII text
Armadillo.Culture
     Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu
     Postal: Armadillo Culture, 2857 Foxmill Rd. Herndon, VA 22071, USA


ART COM
 "An online magazine forum dedicated to the interface of contemporary art 
  and new communication technologies."

  Editor(s): Carl Eugene Loeffler <artcomtv@well.sf.ca.us>
     Format: ASCII text
     Usenet: alt.artcom
     Postal: ART COM, POB 193123 Rincon, San Francisco, CA 94119-3123, USA
      Phone: +1 415 431 7524 (voice), +1 415 431 7841 (fax)
      Other: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link (WELL): ART COM Electronic Network 
               (ACEN)


Athene
 "The online magazine of amateur creative writing."

  Editor(s): Jim McCabe
     Format: ASCII text
             PostScript
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Literary/Athene
             network.ucsd.edu: /intertext/Athene
     Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu

       NOTE: Athene became defunct in 1989.  Intertext is its
             immediate successor.


Bad Subjects
 "Bad Subjects is intended to promote radical thinking and public
  education about the political implications of everyday life.  We offer
  a forum for rethinking American "progressive" or "leftist" politics.
  We invite you to join us and participate in all aspects of Bad Subjects.
  Recent and upcoming issues of Bad Subjects feature articles on malls, 
  _Beverly Hills 90210_, poetry slams, popular music, and the culture
  of addiction."

  Editor(s): The Bad Subjects Collective
               <badsubjects-request@uclink.berkeley.edu>
     Format: ASCII text
     Gopher: gopher-registry.berkeley.edu
     

Bits and Bytes Online
 "An electronic newsletter for text-based life-forms, published irregularly,
  2 or 3 times a month."

  Editor(s): Jay Machado <JAYMACHADO@delphi.com>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: ftp.dana.edu:/periodic
     Gopher: gopher.law.cornell.edu:Discussions and Listserv archives/Teknoids
             gopher.dana.edu:Electronic Journals
      Other: America Online: in telecom files area
 Compuserve: telecom forum library
     Postal: 1529 Dogwood Drive, Cherry Hill, NJ 08003, USA
      Phone: +1 609 795 0998 (evenings)


BLINK
 "BLINK would like to be a forum for the issues surrounding the intersection
  of consciousness and technology.  This is our best defense against
  postmodern angst: To critically look at and anticipate the cultural and
  social changes spurred by the rapid development of technology."

  Editor(s): Justin Kerr <ratsbats@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>
             Joe Germuska <j-germuska@nwu.edu> (managing editor)
             Danny Dunlavy (chiphead)
             Jake Eldridge (assistant editor)
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: blink.acns.nwu.edu:/pub/blink
     Gopher: gopher.well.sf.ca.us
        WWW: http://www.acns.nwu.edu/blink/


Chaos Control
 "Focusing on electronic music.  Chaos Control is published bi-monthly and 
  features interviews with both major and underground acts."
 
  Editor(s): Bob Gourley <rsgour@aol.com>
     Format: ASCII text
             Macintosh Hypercard
     Gopher: gopher.well.sf.ca.us
      Other: America Online
     Postal: $5 to Bob Gourley, 3 Greenville Dr., Barrington, RI 02806, USA
     

Chaos Corner

  Editor(s): Robert D. Cowles <rdc@pelican.cit.cornell.edu>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: pelican.cit.cornell.edu:/pub
     E-Mail: chaos-request@pelican.cit.cornell.edu


Computer Underground Digest
 "An open forum dedicated to sharing information among computerists and 
  to the presentation and debate of diverse views."

  Editor(s): Jim Thomas and Gordon Meyer <TK0JUT2@NIU.BITNET>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: ftp.eff.org:/pub/cud
             etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/CuD/cud
             halcyon.com:/pub/mirror/cud
             aql.gatech.edu;/pub/eff/cud
             ftp.ee.mu.oz.au:/pub/text/CuD (Australia)
             nic.funet.fi:pub/doc/cud (Finland)
             ftp.warwick.ac.uk:pub/cud (United Kingdom)
     Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu
             gopher.cic.net
     Postal: Jim Thomas, Department of Sociology, NIU, DeKalb, IL 60115, USA
      Phone: +1 815 753 0303 (voice), +1 815 753 6302 (fax)
     Usenet: comp.society.cu-digest
 CompuServe: DL0 and DL4 of the IBMBBS SIG; DL1 of LAWSIG; DL1 of TELECOM
      Other: GEnie: PF*NPC RT libraries; VIRUS/SECURITY library
             America Online: PC Telecom forum under "computing newsletters"
             Delphi: General Discussion database of the Internet SIG
             PC-EXEC BBS (+1 414 789 4210)
             Rune Stone BBS (IIRG WHQ) (+1 203 832 8441) NUP:Conspiracy
             RIPCO BBS (+1 312 528 5020)
             via Fidonet File Request from 1:11/70
             ComNet in LUXEMBOURG BBS (+352 466893)
             Bits against the Empire BBS (+39 461 980493) (Italy)


CORE
 "CORE is an electronic journal of poetry, fiction, essays, and criticsm."

  Editor(s): <core-journal@eff.org>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: ftp.eff.org:/pub/journals
             etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Literary/CORE_Zine
     Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu

        
Cousins
 "A place for the Witches, pagans, nature spirits, fey-folk, and assorted
  elder kin of Sherwood to share ideas, challenges, dreams, and projects,
  and to stir up a little magic of our own."

  Editor(s): Susan Gavula <sjgavula@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Cousins
     Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu

CPU: Working in the Computer Industry
 "Dedicated to sharing information among workers in the computer industry.
  CPU is a project of the 'Working in the Computer Industry' working group
  of Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility / Berkeley Chapter."
  
  Editor(s): Michael Stack <stack@starnine.com>
             Jim Davis
     Format: ASCII text
     E-mail: listserv@cpsr.org
               (with a single line in the body of the message:
                 "SUBSCRIBE CPSR-CPU <your first name> <your last name>")
        FTP: cpsr.org:/cpsr/work
             etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/CPSR/work
      Phone: +1 510 601 6740,
     Postal: PO Box 3181, Oakland, CA 94609, USA
             

Crash
 "A guide to traveling through the underground.  Alternative travel
  stories, hints, and tips."

  Editor(s): John Labovitz <johnl@netcom.com>
             Miles Poindexter
             Nigel French
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: netcom.com:/pub/johnl/zines/crash
     Postal: Crash, 519 Castro #7, San Francisco, CA 94114, USA
  

Cropduster
 "Cropduster revolves, as perhaps everything does, around the substance that
  one calls pop-culture.   With various jargon thrown around including:
  post-modernism, nihilism, etc. in an attempt for one generation to 
  understand the next, people forget what the essence of pop-culture really 
  is -- a collection of somewhat useless artifacts which are given exceptional 
  value by groups of people.  What we hope to show is not the trends but 
  rather the idols of pop-culture.  We hope to convey the simplicity of 
  everyday life through the icons which lead generation upon generation 
  onwards."

  Editor(s): Steven Meece <ad522@freenet.carleton.ca>
             Chris Woodill <cwoodill@epas.utoronto.ca>
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Cropduster
     Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu:/Zines/Cropduster/
     Postal: 79 O'Hara Avenue, Toronto, Ontario M6K 2R3, Canada


CTHEORY -- Virtual Review of Books for Post-Modern Theory
 "CTHEORY is a new international, electronic review of books on theory, 
  technology and culture. Reviews are posted monthly of key books in 
  contemporary discourse as well as theorisations of major 'event-scenes' in 
  the mediascape. Editors and contributors include: Kathy Acker, Jean 
  Baudrillard, Bruce Sterling, Arthur and Marilouise Kroker, Deena and 
  Michael Weinstein. CTHEORY will also offer the possibility of interactive 
  discussions among its subscribers in the electronic theory 
  'sim-posium/salon.'"

  Editor(s): Anastassia Khouri St-Pierre <ed22@musica.mcgill.ca>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu
     Gopher: gopher.cic.net
             etext.archive.umich.edu
     E-Mail: LISTSERV@VM1.MCGILL.CA
               with text body: "SUBSCRIBE CTHEORY <full-name>"


Cyberspace Vanguard
 "News and Views of the Science Fiction and Fantasy Universe"

  Editor(s): TJ Goldstein <tlg4@po.cwru.edu>
             Sarah Alexander, Administrator <aa746@po.cwru.edu>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Sci_Fiction/Cyberspace.Vanguard
     Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu
             gopher.well.sf.ca.us
     E-Mail: cn577@cleveland.freenet.edu
             Cyberspace Vanguard@1:157/564 (FidoNet)
             CVANGUARD (Delphi)
     Postal: Cyberspace Vanguard, POB 25704, Garfield Heights, OH 44125, USA
      Other: Cleveland Freenet
             FIDONET: via file request from 1:157/200


DargonZine -- The Magazine of the Dargon Project
 "DargonZine is an electronic magazine printing stories written for
  the Dargon Project, a shared-world anthology similar to (and inspired
  by) Robert Asprin's Thieves' World anthologies, created by  David
  "Orny" Liscomb in his now retired  magazine, FSFNet.  The Dargon
  Project centers around a medieval-style duchy called Dargon in the far
  reaches of the  Kingdom of Baranur on the world named Makdiar, and as
  such contains stories with a fantasy fiction/sword and sorcery flavor."

  Editor(s): Dafydd <White@DUVM.BITNET>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Sci_Fiction/DargonZine
             ftp.eff.org:
     Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu
     Usenet: rec.mag.fsfnet


Dogwood Blossoms
 "An at-least-monthly publication of the Internet community. The goal of this 
  digest is to be a place where Haiku can be shared and discussed with other 
  lovers of the art."

  Editor(s): Gary Warner <GLWARNER@SAMFORD.BITNET>
             Matt Burke <burke@beta.math.wsu.edu>
             Nori Matsui <NORIM@EARLHAM.BITNET>
     Format: ASCII text

Drum
 "Drum is not an isolated event but an ongoing process."

  Editor(s): R Patrick Jones <dh644@cleveland.Freenet.Edu>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Drum
     Gopher: gopher.well.sf.ca.us
             etext.archive.umich.edu


Ego Project
 "This 'zine is a product of me and as such will contain anything I feel 
  like putting in it.  Whatever I feel like putting in it shall include,
  but is not limited too, anything I feel applies to Gothdom in general.   
  Album/single/tape reviews, book and movies reviews, etc. The Sisters of 
  Mercy and the Mission are my main focuses, but since neither of them 
  put out music on anything resembling a frequent basis I imagine other 
  groups will be featured quite frequently."

  Editor(s): Corey Nelson <ieya@byron.u.washington.edu>
     Format: ASCII text
     Gopher: gopher.well.sf.ca.us
     Postal: Ego Project, 1717 Monroe #b, Bellingham, WA 98225, USA


Factsheet Five / Factsheet Five - Electric
 "FactSheet Five is the central clearinghouse of information about zines,
  those opinionated publications with press runs of 50 to 5000 (often done
  through surrepticious use of on-the-job supplies and xerox).  Mike 
  Gunderloy of Rennsalaer, NY published 44 editions of F5.  Hudson Luce 
  published issue #45.  Seth Friedman has published issue #46 onwards.  
  I opened my big mouth (or, rather, let my fingers blab away) about doing 
  an online, net-accessible version of FactSheet Five."

  Editor(s): Jerod Pore <jerod23@well.sf.ca.us> (electronic version)
             Seth Friedman (paper version)
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Factsheet.Five
     Gopher: gopher.well.sf.ca.us
             etext.archive.umich.edu
       WAIS: nigel.msen.com
     Postal: Seth Friedman, POB 170099, San Francisco, CA 94117-0099, USA
               (This is for the paper version *only*, especially 
                subscriptions)
             Factsheet Five, 1800 Market St., San Francisco, CA 94102, USA
               (This is for *BOTH* the electronic and paper versions; 
                or for items that can't be delivered to a PO box)
      Phone: +1 415 668 1781 (paper version *only*)
      Other: The WELL
             BBSes around the world


FSFNet
 "BITNET fantasy-science fiction fanzine."

  Editor(s): "Orny" Liscomb <ornoth%wonky.uucp@stratus.com>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Sci_Fiction/FSFNet
     Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu

       NOTE: Defunct since 1988; replaced by DargonZine (see above)


FUNHOUSE! -- The cyberzine of degenerate pop culture
 "Dedicated to whatever happens to be on my mind at the time I'm writing.  
  The focus will tend to be on those aspects of our fun-filled world which
  aren't given the attention of the bland traditional media, or which have 
  been woefully misinterpreted or misdiagnosed by the same.  FUNHOUSE! is
  basically a happy place, and thus the only real criteria I will try to 
  meet is to refrain from rants, personal attacks, and flames -- and thus 
  FUNHOUSE! is an apolitical place.  Offbeat films, music, literature, and 
  experiences are largely covered, with the one stipulation that articles 
  are attempted to be detailed and well documemnted, although this is no 
  guarantee of completeness or correctness, so that the interested reader 
  may further pursue something which may spark her interest."

  Editor(s): Jeff Dove <jeffdove@well.sf.ca.us>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: netcom.com:/pub/johnl/zines/funhouse
             etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Funhouse
     Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu
             gopher.well.sf.ca.us


GMJ
 
  Editor(s): Anthony Shubert <shubert@usc.edu>
             ace@ace.com
     Format: ASCII text
             ANSI text
             Clipboard (VGA/SVGA pictures with text, IBM PC-compatible)
     Postal: Innovative Creations, 29 David Road, South Carver, MA 02330, USA
               ($2 will get a 30+page printed newsletter)
               

GRIST On-Line
 "A new journal of electronic network poetry, art and culture.  GRIST will be 
  eclectic.  GRIST will be open to all the language and visual art forms that 
  develop on the net."
 
  Editor(s): John Fowler <fowler@phantom.com>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Poetry/Grist
     Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu:/Poetry/Grist
     Postal: GRIST ON-LINE, John Fowler, editor, Columbus Circle Sta., 
               P.O. Box 20805, New York, NY 10023-1496, USA


HardC.O.R.E.
 "The official rap music fanzine of The Committee of Rap Excellence."

  Editor(s): Steve "Flash" Juon, Chief Editor and Chief Rocka 
               <juonsteve@bvc.edu>
             David J. Warner, Music Editor, Director of Network Distribution
               <dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/HardCORE
     Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu:/Zines/HardCORE


Hi-Rez
 "Electronic Journal for CyberBeatniks"

  Editor(s): Will Longman <stormy@well.sf.ca.us>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/CyberPunk/HI-REZ
     Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu
             gopher.well.sf.ca.us


Holy Temple of Mass Consumption
  "Articles, opinions, reviews, and artwork of a loosely-defined collection
   of cranks, weirdos, freaks, net.personalities, curmudgeons, and anyone
   else who turns us on at the time.  Commentary on nearly everything,
   with particular attention to societal decay in general and mass-media  
   conspiracy programming in particular.  Or anything else we decide to
   write about, with strong ties to the finest SubGenius traditions."

   Editor(s): Wayne Aiken <slack@ncsu.edu>
      Format: ASCII text
         FTP: quartz.rutgers.edu:/pub/journals/HToMC
      Gopher: gopher.well.sf.ca.us
      Postal: HToMC, PO Box 30904, Raleigh, NC 27622-0904, USA
       Phone: +1 919 954 5956 (voice)
      Usenet: alt.slack, alt.discordia
       Other: StarFleet BBS (+1 919 954 5028)
              Hardcopy version available from PO Box address
              Free with SASE, otherwise $1, trade, or "neat stuff"


inter\face
 "inter\face is an offering."
  
  Editor(s): Benjamin Henry <BH4781@rachel.albany.edu>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Interface
     Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu


International TeleTimes
 "International Teletimes is a general interest magazine. There are several
  recurring monthly columns but the rest of the content changes from month to
  month as new themes are chosen. The goal of Teletimes is to attract a large
  variety of writers from all over the world so that the readers will be 
  exposed to a great variety of ideas and opinions."

  Editor(s): Ian Wojtowicz <ian@breez.wimsey.com>
     Format: Macintosh Doc-Maker application
        FTP: sumex-aim.stanford.edu:/info-mac/per/teletimes-*.hqx
     Postal: TeleTimes International, 3938 West 30th Ave.,
               Vancouver, BC V6S 1X3, Canada
      Other: OneNet (network of FirstClass BBSes)
  

InterText
 "InterText is a bi-monthly fiction magazine printing stories in all genres
  from mainstream to science fiction. It's read by thousands of subscribers
  on six continents."

  Editor(s): Jason Snell <intertxt@network.ucsd.edu>
             Geoff Duncan <gaduncan@halcyon.com> (assistant editor)
     Format: ASCII text
             PostScript
        FTP: network.ucsd.edu:/intertext
             etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Literary/InterText
     Gopher: ocf.berkeley.edu:OCF On-Line Library/Fiction/InterText
             etext.archive.umich.edu
        WWW: file://network.ucsd.edu/intertext/other_formats/HTML/ITtoc.html
 CompuServe: Electronic Frontier Foundation's "Zines from the Net" section, 
               accessible by typing "GO EFFSIG"
      GEnie: Science Fiction Roundtable #3 (SFRT3) download section
     Postal: InterText, 21645 Parrotts Ferry, Sonora, CA 95370, USA


The Lighthouse
 "Shining Light on Today's Christian Music"

  Editor(s): J. Warner Soditus <jws@sabine.psu.edu> (exec. editor/publisher)
             Beth Blinn
     Format: ASCII text
             Postscript
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu/pub/Zines/lighthouse
             nic.cic.net/pub/Zines/lighthouse
     Postal: The Lighthouse, 256 East College Avenue, Suite 302, 
               State College, PA 16801, USA  (814) 238-6730


LIMINAL -- Liminal Explorations
 "LIMINAL seeks to apply new inter and transdisciplinary methods, theories,
  ideas, concepts, and approaches to the study of cultural phenomena as well 
  as the inventive application of existing approaches.  The term 'cultural 
  phenomena' is taken to mean, but not limited to meaning: 1) an activity 
  engaged in by humans as members of a social network, 2) the product(s) of 
  such engagement(s), 3) the motivators of such activities or engagements, 
  4) the functioning of such social networks themselves."
  
  Editor(s): <swilbur@andy.bgsu.edu>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Liminal
     Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu
     Postal: The Liminal Group, Box 154, BGSU, Bowling Green, OH 43403, USA
        

The Neon Gargoyle Gazette
 "The goal of this magazine is to enlighten the public at large about the 
  world of horror from the tiny details of splatter to the grand sweeping 
  theories of hidden psychological appeal.  The GARGOYLE contains discussion 
  forums on horror in all its forms.  History, art, poetry, biography, modern 
  cinema, professional make-up techniques, and horror productions both 
  present and past are all examined here, as well as a trivia Q&A section."

  Editor(s): Dan Krumlauf <aa666@po.cwru.edu>
     Format: ASCII text
     USENET: alt.horror, alt.cult-movies
      Other: Cleveland Free-Net Community Computer System (+1 216 368 3888
               or IP address 129.22.8.38); once logged in type "GO HORROR"
      Phone: +1 216 491 4616
      

Obscure Electronic
 "OBSCURE is the zine that profiles the people in this publishing subculture."

  Editor(s): James P Romenesko <obscure@csd4.csd.uwm.edu>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Obscure.Electric
     Gopher: gopher.well.sf.ca.us
             etext.archive.umich.edu
     Postal: POB 1334, Milwaukee, WI 53201, USA


Parthenogenesis

  Editor(s): Dan Herrick <dherrick@nyx.cs.du.edu>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Parthenogenesis
     Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu
     Postal: Parthenogenesis, 804 S. College Suite 8363, Ft. Collins, CO 
               80524, USA


People Power Update
  The newsletter of the bicycle advocacy group "People Power"

  Editor(s): Ron Goodman <goodman@cats.ucsc.edu>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: netcom.com:/pub/johnl/zines/ppu
     Postal: People Power, 226 Jeter Street, Santa Cruz, CA 95060, USA
      Phone: +1 408 425 8851 (voice/fax)


Play by EMail
 "Electronic 'zine about free play-by-electronic-mail wargames.  Reviews, 
  game openings, information."

  Editor(s): Greg Lindahl <gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: ftp.erg.sri.com:/pub/pbm/PBEM-Fanzine
     Gopher: gopher.well.sf.ca.us
     Usenet: rec.games.pbm


Power to the People Mover
 "POWER TO THE PEOPLE MOVER concerned with unusual and noteworthy behavior 
  observed on mass transit systems, particularly the bus lines."

  Editor(s): <eric@wendy.ucsd.edu>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/People.Mover
     Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu
     Postal: Cool It, P.O. Box 232741, Leucadia, CA 92023, USA


Practical Anarchy Online
 "An electronic zine concerning anarchy from a practical point of view, to 
  help you put some anarchy in your everyday life. The anarchy scene is 
  covered through reviews and reports from people in the living anarchy."

  Editor(s): Chuck Munson <cmunson@macc.wisc.edu>
               Bitnet: cmunson@wiscmacc.bitnet
             Mikael Cardell <cardell@lysator.liu.se> 
               Fidonet: Mikael Cardell@2:205/223
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Politics/Spunk
     Gopher: gopher.well.sf.ca.us
             etext.archive.umich.edu
     Postal: Practical Anarchy, POB 173, Madison, WI 53701-0173, USA
             Practical Anarchy, c/o Mikael Cardell, Gustav Adolfsgatan 3,
               S-582 20 Linkoping, Sweden


PURPS

  Editor(s): Pope Jephe <jstevens@world.std.com>
             Doc Simpson <scott@plearn.bitnet>
     Format: ASCII text
     E-Mail: <HailOtis@socpsy.sci.fau.edu>
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Purps
     Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu
     Postal: IGHF, 955 Massachusetts Ave., Suite 209, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA


Quanta
 "Quanta is the electronically produced and distributed magazine of science 
  fiction and fantasy.  As such, each issues is packed with fiction from 
  amateur and professional authors from around the world and across the net."

  Editor(s): Daniel K Appelquist <quanta@andrew.cmu.edu>
     Format: PostScript
             ASCII text
        FTP: export.acs.cmu.edu:/pub/quanta
             ftp.eff.org:/journals/Quanta
             lth.se:/documents/Quanta
             catless.newcastle.ac.uk:/pub/Quanta
             etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Sci_Fiction/Quanta
     Gopher: gopher-srv.acs.cmu.edu (in the Archives directory)
             etext.archive.umich.edu
     Postal: Quanta, 3003 Van Ness St. NW #S919, Washington, DC 20008, USA
 CompuServe: "Zines from  the Net" area of the EFF forum (accessed by typing 
               GO EFFSIG)


R.A.D! ON-LINE
 "Review And Discussion of Rock & Roll."

  Editor(s): Keith A. Gordon <GordonKA@CtrVax.Vanderbilt.Edu>
     Format: ASCII text
     Usenet: alt.zines
             alt.music.alternative
     Postal: 826 Old Charlotte Pike East, Franklin, TN 37064, USA
      Other: MONDO GORDO! BBS (+1 615 791 8050)
             A Brother To Dragons BBS (+1 615 781 9943)


Random Access Humor -- The Electronic Humor Magazine
 "A rag-tag collection of fugitive humor, some of which
  is vaguely related to the BBS/Online System world."

  Editor(s): Dave Bealer <dbealer@clark.net>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Humor/RAH
    r/RAH
     Postal: Random Access Humor, c/o Dave Bealer, P.O. Box 595,
                Pasadena, MD 21122, USA
      Other: The Puffin's Nest BBS (FidoNet: 1:261/1129, +1 410 437-3463,
               1200-14400/V.32bis)


SCRATCH
 "One of the things that kept me from doing something sooner was the idea that
  you sort of had to have a focus to do a proper zine. I got over it. I found 
  a new desire and enjoyment in rambling about whatever seems appropriate at 
  the time. So here we are."

  Editor(s): James Barnett <spingo@Panix.Com>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Scratch
     Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu
     Postal: J. Barnett, 28 North Avenue, New Rochelle, NY 10805, USA


Scream Baby
 "What do I want?  Besides world peace, a sexy Mexican maid, and someone to 
  use their fucking brains around here, I want a really good
  all-encompassing-sub-culture zine.  Music, literature, art, television,
  film, weird space-time kinks, events, information, news, humor, interviews,
  and re:views of 'Stuff I Think Is Cool.'  Not all at once, of course.  
  Each issue of Scream Baby will come out whenever I can scrape together 
  25-30 kilobytes of really good stuff."

  Editor(s): Blade X <bladex@wixer.bga.com>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/CyberPunk/ScreamBaby
             ftp.eff.org:/pub/journals/ScreamBaby
     Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu
             gopher.well.sf.ca.us
      Other: WWIV: 46@5285
             Tejas BBS (+1 512 467-0663) (16.8 HST modem)


Screams of Abel
 "SOAE is published weekly giving you the latest in brutal music, from heavy
  gothic metal to grindcore to hardcore and even some... ick.. pop metal.
  But that won't be much, I assure you.. :-)."

  Editor(s): Phil Powell <Phil.Powell@launchpad.unc.edu>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Screams.of.Abel
     Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu
     Usenet: alt.zines
      Other: FIDONET: CCM Conference
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Slither
 "inSobordinate Leftists Intellectual Trash Hopefully Earmarked 
  for Revolution."

  Editor(s): <anon14b4@nyx.cs.du.edu>
     Format: ASCII text
     Postal: 7514 Girard #228, La Jolla, CA 92037, USA
      Phone: +1 619 230 7106  


TapRoot Reviews Electronic Edition
 "Short reviews of micropress poetry, experimental literature and art -- 
  100+ reviews per issue."

  Editor(s): Luigi-Bob Drake <au462@cleveland.freenet.edu>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Taproot
     Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu
     Postal: Burning Press, PO Box 585, Lakewood, OH 44107, USA


Taylorology
 "TAYLOROLOGY is a newsletter focusing on the life and death of William Desmond
  Taylor, a top film Paramount film director in early Hollywood who was shot to
  death on February 1, 1922. His unsolved murder was one of Hollywood's major
  scandals.  This newsletter will deal with: (a) The facts of Taylor's life;
  (b) The facts and rumors of Taylor's murder; (c) The impact of the Taylor
  murder on Hollywood and the nation. Primary emphasis will be given toward
  reprinting, referencing and analyzing source material, and sifting it for
  accuracy."

  Editor(s): Bruce Long <bruce@asu.edu>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Taylorology
     Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu


The Trincoll Journal
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  The Journal is a student-run publication at Trinity College in Hartford,
  Connecticut."

  Editor(s): <Journal@mail.trincoll.edu>
     Format: Macintosh HyperCard stack
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               (make sure you include the words "subscribe Journal" in the 
               subject line) 


Twilight Zone
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  sort of fiction -- although it usually tends to concentrate on fantasy and
  science-fiction."

  Editor(s): Richard Karsmakers <R.C.Karsmakers@stud.let.ruu.nl>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Twilight.Zone
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     Postal: Richard Karsmakers, Looplantsoen 50, NL-3523 GV Utrecht,
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The Undiscovered Country
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  l.b. noire.  it is the latest flatulence from our brains regarding
  life/art/literature/cyberspace/philosophy/etc.  it's a large 
  enchiladaesque bunch of stuff."

  Editor(s): SR Prozak and LB Noire <cblanc@pomona.claremont.edu>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Literary/
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             cs.uwp.edu:/pub/music/lists/tuc
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     Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu


Unit Circle Magazine
 "An eclectic quarterly magazine of art, prose, poetry, music reviews,
   and liberal commentary."

  Editor(s): Kevin Goldsmith <kmg@sgi.com>
     Format: Postscript
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/UnitCircle
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     Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu
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Unplastic News
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  Editor(s): <tibbetts@hsi.hsi.com>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: ftp.eff.org:/pub/cud/misc/journals
             etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Unplastic_News
             quartz.rutgers.edu:pub/journals
     Gopher: gopher.well.sf.ca.us
             etext.archive.umich.edu


uXu
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  could think of." 

  Editor(s): Erik Soderstrom <chief@lysator.liu.se>
     Format: ASCII text
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             etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/UXU
             zero.cypher.com:/pub/uxu
             centreville-3207.dorm.umd.edu:/pub/uxu
             ftp.uu.net:/doc/literary/obi/NewsLetters/UXU
             cs.columbia.edu:/archives/mirror2/world-info/obi/NewsLetters/UXU
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     Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu
     Postal: uXu, P.O. BOX 5, S-790 23 Svardsjo, Sweden
      Other: +46 13 175042 (BBS)
             Plus BBSes in a number of countries including the US,
               Canada, Holland, Australia, Switzerland and Sweden


Voices from the Net
 "There are a lot of folks with at least one foot in this complex region we
  call (much too simply) "the net." There are a lot of voices on these wires.
  From IRC to listservs, MUDspace to e-mail, Usenet group to commercial bbs
  -- all kinds of voices -- loud and quiet, anonymous and well-known. And yet,
  it's far from clear what it might mean to be a "voice" from, or on, the
  net. Enter "Voices from the Net": one attempt to sample, explore, the
  possibilities (or perils) of net.voices. Worrying away at the question.
  Running down the meme. Looking/listening, and reporting back to you."

  Editor(s): Bookish <swilbur@andy.bgsu.edu>
             CountZer0 <mgardbe@andy.bgsu.edu>
             NEURO <fbohann@andy.bgsu.edu>
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             ASCII text
        FTP: aql.gatech.edu:/pub/Zines/Voices_from_the_Net
             etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Voices (ASCII text only)
             wiretap.spies.com:/Library/Zines (ASCII text only)
             sumex-aim.stanford.edu:/info-mac/recent (HyperCard stack only)
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               to subscribe:
                 subject: Voices from the Net
                 body: subscribe


We Magazine
 poetry

kendall,
             Jay Curkendall, Roddy Potter, Chris Funkhouser, Belle Gironda,
             Ben Henry, Katie Yates <cf2785@albnyvms.bitnet>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Literary/We_Magazine
     Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu
     Postal: We Press, Postoffice Box 1503 Santa Cruz, CA 95061, USA


The Web Online Review
 "Reviews of new and reprinted children's books (picture books through young
  adult.)  Our goal is to provide honest, informative reviews that will help 
  parents and educators find the best, most enjoyable books. We also publish a 
  non-electronic journal reviewing the best old and new children's books."

  Editor(s): Wendy E. Betts <webco@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us>
             Evan A.C. Hunt
     Format: ASCII text
     Usenet: rec.arts.books
             misc.kids
             alt.books.reviews
     Postal: P.O. Box 401, Santa Cruz, CA 95061-0401, USA


Whole Earth Review
 "We are dedicated to demystification, to self-teaching, and to 
  encouraging people to think for themselves.  Thus our motto: 'ACCESS TO
  TOOLS AND IDEAS.'  Tools in the Whole Earth sense include hammers, books, 
  and computer conferencing systems.  Our readers are a community of 
  tool-users who share information with one another.  The ideas we make 
  accessible have not often been found in university courses, but are 
  becoming recognized as part of what you need to know to be truly educated.  
  Our readers contribute to the editorial content as well, with both reviews 
  and articles."

  Editor(s): <wer@well.sf.ca.us>
     Format: ASCII text
             Macintosh PageMaker 4.2 files
     Gopher: gopher.well.sf.ca.us
     Postal: Whole Earth Review, 27 Gate Five Road, Sausalito, CA 94965, USA
      Phone: +1 415 332 1716 (voice), +1 415 332 3110 (fax)
      
       NOTE: e-text of WER is currently available *only* via gopher; do not
               e-mail requests for issues


Xenocide
 music

  Editor(s): Jon Konrath <jkonrath@indiana.edu>
     Format: ASCII text
        FTP: etext.archive.umich.edu:/pub/Zines/Music/Xenocide
     Gopher: etext.archive.umich.edu
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               Bloomington, IN 47401, USA

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Subject: Meat (fwd)
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From gnu@toad.com Fri Jan 21 01:49:01 1994
Message-Id: <9401210948.AA05341@toad.com>
To: tomj@wps.com, hugh@toad.com, laura@toad.com
Subject: Meat
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 94 01:48:52 -0800
From: gnu@toad.com

[forwards deleted]

> A dialogue by Terry Bisson.  From a series of stories entitled
> "Alien/Nation" in the April issue of Omni.

"They're made out of meat."

"Meat?"

"Meat. They're made out of meat."

"Meat?"

"There's no doubt about it.  We picked several from different parts of
the planet, took them aboard our recon vessels, probed them all the
through. They're completely meat."

"That's impossible.  What about the radio signals?  The messages to
the stars."

"They use the radio waves to talk, but the signals don't come from
them.  The signals come from machines."

"So who made the machines?  That's who we want to contact."

"They made the machines.  That's what I'm trying to tell you.  Meat
made the machines."

"That's ridiculous.  How can meat make a machine?  You're asking me to
believe in sentient meat."

"I'm not asking you, I'm telling you.  These creatures are the only
sentient race in the sector and they're made out of meat."

"Maybe they're like the orfolei.  You know, a carbon-based
intelligence that goes through a meat stage."

"Nope. They're born meat and they die meat.  We studied them for
several of their life spams, which didn't take too long.  Do you have
any idea the life spam of meat?"

"Spare me.  Okay, maybe they're only part meat.  You know, like the
weddilei.  A meat head with an electron plamsa brain inside."

"Nope.  We thought of that, since they do have meat heads like the
weddilei.  But I told you, we probed them.  They're meat all the way
through."

"No brain?"

"Oh, there is a brain all right.  It's just that the brain is made out
of meat!"

"So... what does the thinking?"

"You're not understanding, are you?  The brain does the thinking.  The
meat."

"Thinking meat!  You're asking me to believe in thinking meat!"

"Yes, thinking meat!  Conscious meat!  Loving meat.  Dreaming meat.
The meat is the whole deal!  Are you getting the picture?"

"Omigod.  You're serious then.  They're made out of meat."

"Finally. Yes, they are indeed made out meat.  And they've been trying
to get in touch with us for almost a hundred of their years."

"So what does the meat have in mind."

"First it wants to talk to us.  Then I imagine it wants to explore the
universe, contact other sentients, swap ideas and information. The
usual."

"We're supposed to talk to meat?"

"That's the idea.  That's the message they're sending out by radio.
'Hello.  Anyone out there?  Anyone home?' That sort of thing."

"They actually do talk, then.  They use words, ideas, concepts?"

"Oh, yes.  Except they do it with meat."

"I thought you just told me they used radio."

"They do, but what do you think is on the radio?  Meat sounds.  You
know how when you slap or flap meat it makes a noise?  They talk by
flapping their meat at each other.  They can even sing by squirting
air through their meat."

"Omigod.  Singing meat.  This is altogether too much.  So what do you
advise?"

"Officially or unofficially?"

"Both."

"Officially, we are required to contact, welcome, and log in any and
all sentient races or multibeings in the quadrant, without prejudice,
fear, or favor.  Unofficially, I advise that we erase the reconds and
forget the whole thing."

"I was hoping you would say that."

"It seems harsh, but there is a limit.  Do we really want to make
contact with meat?"

"I agree one hundred percent.  What's there to say?" `Hello, meat.
How's it going?'  But will this work?  How many planets are we dealing
with here?"

"Just one.  They can travel to other planets in special meat
containers, but they can't live on them.  And being meat, they only
travel through C-space.  which limits them to the speed of light and
makes the possibility of their ever making contact pretty slim.
Infinitesimal, in fact."

"So we just pretend there's no one home in the universe."

"That's it."

"Cruel. But you sid it yourself, who want to meet meat?  And the ones
who have been aboard our vessels, the ones you have probed?  You're
sure they won't remember?"

"They'll be considered crackpots if they do.  We went into their heads
and smoothed out their meat so that we're just a dream to them."

"A dream to meat!  How strangely appropiate, that we should be meat's
dream."

"And we can marked this sector unoccupied."

"Good.  Agreed, officially and unofficially.  Case closed.  Any
others?  Anyone interested on that side of the galaxy?"

"Yes, a rather shy but sweet hydrogen core cluster intelligence in a
class nine star in G445 zone.  Was in contact two galactic rotation
ago, wants to be friendly again."

"They always come around."

"And why not?  Imagine how unbearably, how unutterably cold the
universe would be if one were all alone."

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Here's some fun for you all.

Apparently, some fellow calling himself Bobby BIBLE has put together an
organization/magazine called VIP, which stands for VIrgin Pride.  Clever, no?
This whole thing is about (surprise!) celibacy and what a GREAT idea it is
and there are no problems with it whatsoever so everybody do it or else, ok?
He dedicates his book to "Jesus Christ, a lifleong virgin who never
masturbated."  Right.  

Since I'm always looking for new ways to go to hell, I wrote down the address
for this project.  You can get a FREE copy of their magazine by writing to:

Christian Anti-Defamation League
PO Box 433
Norwalk, CA
90651-0433

A guy on internet sez this thing is a barrel o' laffs, and I'm sending for
my copy as soon as I can find a stamp. 



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>From mvanmeet@nyx.cs.du.edu Thu Nov 11 21:05:59 MST 1993

      Tormenting Telmarketers - A Game You Can Play at Home!

 Everyone has gotten a call from a Telemarketer.  The new Scourge of
the Telephone System.  Previously when the phone rang, you always wondered
if it was someone you knew, or another schmuck with something to sell.  Well,
the time has come to turn the tables.  We need to take control of our own
phones.  We need to take the "market" out of Telemarketing.

 Premise: Telemarketers take the brute force approach to making sales.
  If you talk to a whole bunch of people, someone will buy
  what you are selling.

 Counter-Tactic: Waste as much of their time as you can.  For each
  minute that you waste means several potential customers that
  will not be reached.  Make Telemarketing unprofitable.  Hanging
  up only increases the changes for them to make a sale.  Don't
  let this happen!

 Hints: Most of the preliminary stuff is done by someone making
  minimum wage, and reads a script.  Let them finish.  It's
  easy points, and you were watching Star Trek and weren't
  using your phone anyway.  It's easy to keep them interested
  using "attentive grunting", similar to when your mother calls.

 Scoring:

     Basic Point System:
  For each minute spent on the phone               10 pts.
  Getting transfered to someone who makes
   more than minimum wage                   15 pts
  For each minute spent on the phone with
   person making more than minimum wage     25 pts

     Bonus Points:
  Getting them to repeat part of the "script"       5 pts/each
  Getting answers to stupid questions              15 pts/each
  Changing the subject                             50 pts/each
  Making the sales person angry                   175 pts
  Making the sales person use profanity           750 pts
  Get their boss on the phone, and tell them
   the salesman used profanity            1500 pts
  Getting their 1-800- number                      10 pts
  Posting their 1-800- number to alt.sex as
   a free "Phone Sex" line                  50 pts
  Checking the number a week later and it is
   busy or disconnected                   5000 pts

 Example:

  <Ring>
  Me:     Yes?
  Them:   Hi, I'm with Fly-By-Night Carpet Cleaning
   and we're in your area [...]
[start clock->] Them:   [...] would like to know it you are interested?
  Me:     Sure...
  Them:   Well, we are currently offering [...]
  Them:   [...] depending on the size of the rooms.
  Me:     Well, how much for the whole house?
[15 bonus pts!] Them:   Let me transfer you to <???>
  Them:   Sir?
  Me:     Yes?
[25 pts/min!]   Them:   How large is your house?
  Me:     Oh, about 2,000 sqft.
  Them:   [...] Well, that would be about $xxx
[stupid ?]      Me:     It won't hurt the floor, will it?
  Them:   Oh, no! We use a [...this usually takes some time!...]
   and is completely safe.
[stupid ?]      Me:     Even with my pets?
		Them:   Oh, yes. The chemicals we use [...]
		Me:     Do you have to pre-treat, since I have pets?
		Them:   Yes, and we do that with [...]
[repeat!]       Me:     But the original offer was for $39.95, does that
			include treating for pets?
		Them:   [...]
[subject change]Me:     Well, it is kindof dirty.  The guys were over for
			the game.  Did you see the Cowboys vs. the Rams?
		Them:   Yes.
		Me:     What a game!  That last touchdown pass!  Wasn't that
			a great play?
		Them:   Well, back to your house...
		Me:     Oh yes, what about moving the furniture?
		Them:   [...]
[subject change]Me:     Do you clean furniture, too?  Those guys spilled some
			beer.  Have you smelled old beer on furniture before?
			But what a game, eh?!  I couldn't believe that they
			couldn't move the ball in the second quarter...
			[...]
[angry???]      Them:   Ahem... Would you like us to come out?
		Me:     Well, when could you come out?
		Them:   How about next week?
		Me:     Hmmm...  Morning or afternoon?
		Them:   Either would be fine.
		Me:     Do you have anything the week after?
		Them:   Sure, can I put you down for Tuesday?

[Okay, let's try for those last big bonus points:]

		Me:     Well, I don't think it matters, since I have all
			hardwood floors here!
		Them:   Dammit! <Yes! 250 points!>
		<click>

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The following was taken from the alt.flame off the internet newsgroups. 
It is a group devoted entirely to insults. We're not talking about the 
typical "your mamma" insults here. We're talking about stuff that, if 
said in real life, and ment, would more than likly get your residential 
dwelling firebombed. Summed up, if it can be held against you, it 
will...viscously. This is one of the better ones off of the group. 


BE WARNED!!!!!!!!
BE WARNED!!!!!!!!
BE WARNED!!!!!!!!
BE WARNED!!!!!!!!

>From haushalt@research.nj.nec.com Tue Dec 21 12:13:41 MST 1993

Good evening, folks. I'm Bob Haushalter and I'm your host for
the second annual alt.flame "Hall of Shame" fashion show
here in the beautiful Trump Taj Mahal Casino in exciting
Atlantic City. We've got quite a show lined up for you tonight
and I'd like to get things started.  Joining me here tonight at
the foot of the walkway are a distinguished panel of judges
composed of a few of the alt.flame losers.  Could each of you
stand as I introduce you? On my immediate right here is Mike
Holeburn looking quite a bit like the little man from the
Monopoly game in his tux (nods to crowd), to his right Andy
from Dallas(waves cowboy hat), Babs Abernathy, Karmellow
Cornhole and finally Tony Zugates.
You'll be happy to know also that this year we isolated the
Norwegians, Swedes and the other assorted Scandoscum trash
in a sound proof glass enclosure so we won't have to
experience the disruptions we heard last year.
Well, let me tell you a little bit about what you can expect. As
you are probably aware, alt.flame has recently experienced a
burgeoning influx of a number of transvestites/crossdressers,
transexuals and, above all, several individuals who are just
basically, plain old confused about their sexual identities.  So
we're particularly encouraging these individuals to "strut their
stuff" for you tonight here in Atlantic City, in hopes of them
clarifying and crystallizing their thoughts in this important
area.
Moving right along to our first contestant, directly from the
heart of the cornbelt in Ames Iowa, we have BFG the
Bunghole Fondling Gastropod, Becky Baker. And here she
comes down the runway now. Doesn't she carry her 182 lbs on
her 5'2" frame quite well? Becky is really looking fine with
her fresh shave and crisply starched, crotchless overalls. Well
those see-thru leotards are indeed quite eyecatching.

<Cornhole rapidly moving hands beneath table>

BFG, is that a couple pads of black steel wool peeking out
from the crotch of your stained undies or are you overdue for
a pube job at the local merkin salon? Becky, is that your butt
shaking like that when you walk or do you have 50 lbs of half
melted jello in a plastic garbage strapped to your derriere?
Camera 3, can we get a closeup of Beck and display it on the
big screen here in the Taj Mahal? Love the way you comb
your lipid drenched, prematurely gray hair stright back. Hey
who knows, with these judges, the blackheads and ample
nasal hair could be a plus. Are you blushing? Well, judges,
what say ye?

Babs: Oy! I like you plaid flannel shirt under the overalls. 8

Karmy: <hic> Fuck you, Bob. I make $100,000/year and drive
a BMW. I get laid every night (by women). A 10.

Andy: Bob, you know what boggles my fucking mind? The
stinking Federal Reserve System. Did you know that the US
has a private banking system and that the Federal Reserve is
not part of the Government? Did you know that they've never
been audited except with their own internal audits? And that
these audits don't meet even the minimum requirements of the
National Association of Public Accountants?  I think the
whole crossdressing farmgirl charade sucks . . . 4.

Holeburn: Bob, can ask the contestant a question? Thanks.
BFG, can you tell me what is the proper diameter file to use
on both round and square chisel teeth chain saw chains in both
domestic and foreign *professional* chain saws with over 3cc
engines? Two stroke only, please.

BFG: A constant diameter 0.050" on the domestic and 1.2mm
on the German saws.

OK.  Our next contestant is that zoophilic zarathustrian zulu,
straight from Witwatersrand . . .

[Simonize Anderson]

Si is sporting a blotchy rather dirty, intestine grey-pink
Spandex upper body suit complemented by a very short,
ruffled (Desmond) tutu. His coarsely knit, nurse-like white
nylons with the seam in back allow his kinky leg hairs to
protrude thru the mesh for that furry Kalahari look. Si, do you
have Afro-sheen on your leg hairs? Let's have a hand for Si
and his cross-dressing Willy Mandela look.

<polite applause>

Well Holeburn, what do you think?

Hole: I'm impressed with the shield displaying the wildebeest
penis .  .  . I'll give him an 8.

Andy?

Andy: Bob, there were dozens of men, women and children
incinerated in Waco and righteous Boobus America didn't
even blink an eye. What happened to the "drug labs", "child
pornography" and the other "outrages" that were supposed to
have justified the raid? What did these people do besides
exercise their Constitutional rights for religious freedom and
to bear arms? As soon as the government labels you as a
"cult" or "warlord" or the like, you'd better make out your
will.

Si, your thongs just aren't you . . . I give you a 4.

Babs?

Babs: Oy! Si, I like you legs. You look like a guy that knows

where to find undigested corn . . . a 9.

Cornhole?

Karmy: <hic> Fuck you, Bob. I make $120,000/year and drive
a top of the line BMW. I get laid twice every night (by
women).

Karmy, please keep your hands on the table top . . . what do
you vote?

I haven't had a drink since dinner and can't think too fast . . .
get  the hell off my back.  I say 10.

OK, Tony?

Tony:

OK!  Looking good, Si . . . good luck.

Allright, folks, let's continue.  Our next contestant is from way
up North, ay? Straight from Waterloo in Guelph, it's Lez.

[Lez Stewart]

<clack, clack, clack>

Folks, will you look at this! Here comes Lez down the
walkway. Those 6 inch platform shoes and heels do give her a
certain presence, don't they? Lez is dressed tonight in an
extremely thin, black, skin tight kid glove leather body suit.
Am I seeing things or is your leather only about ten microns
thick. I swear from here I can see every single lucious bump
and crevice on her succulent body!  I think I can actually
make out the outline of the little Indian there in his canoe.
Lez, I'm almost afraid to ask where you got those foreskin
earrings.

<Lez stands, feet apart, auburn hair radiant, hands on hips,
beads of sweat on her upper lip, whip neatly coiled in her
hand, grinning at the end of the walkway>

The stump of a pipe held tight in her teeth
And the smoke it encircled her head like a wreath.
Well judges, I know I got a woody in about four picoseconds
when I saw her, what do you all think?

<entire panel, eyes glazed over, is moving hands beneath the
table>

Comfy, if you can get your tongue back in your mouth tells us
what you think.

Hole: <drool runs slowly down his chin> uuuuhhhh . . . uh . .
10!

Babs: Oy! I like you turgid buttocks . . . 10.

Andy: Bob, how many people do think that crazy bastard on
the Long Island Railroad would have shot if everyone
exercised their second amendment rights and carried a gun?
Maybe two at the most.  I give Lez a 10.

Tony:

Cornhole: Does anyone have any tissues? A 10.

It certainly looks like Lez is the one to "beat" so far. Our next
participant hails from lovely Santa Barbara and here she is  . .

[Katty Corkme]

As our lips slowly parted, I stared deeply into her limpid blue
eyes and pushed her long blonde hair back off her shoulders. I
slowly unbuttoned her white cotton blouse and let it fall to the
floor. She gently placed her hands on either side of my head
and slowly drew my face into the warm softness of her
breasts. As I placed my mouth over her large areola, which
was just slightly darker than the surrounding skin of her firm
breast, her smooth nipple rapidly became erect. As my lips
moved down from her breast, across her stomach and below
her navel, I could feel the muscles in her buttocks becoming
increasingly tense . . .

<ooops, wrong fantasy. Sorry Kath, you'll have to leave this
thread>

Ahem. And now from just outside the main gate of the big
Navy base in San Diego the Ferrous Fanny Fondler

[Vapid Video Vug-head]

Stainette, do you have anything to say to the judges? "Yes . . .
fuckhead. Feh."  Well, that was certainly up to your pithy
standards, Dickcheese. This evening Stainette is wearing the
Wal-Mart special southern California unisex shiny rayon
jogging suit made from recycled polyethylene terephthallate.
Further confusing the gender issue Stainette has apparently
accentuated both her breasts but (s)he has a (rather smallish)
bulge in the crotch area as well. The lipstick/eyeshadow is
nicely offset by the workshoes and hard hat. Well judges,
what do you think of our little San Diego gender bender?
Karmy, please keep your hands up on the table.  Babs?

Babs: Oy! I really don't care for you jumpsuit. I prefer
something with just a tad more ostentatiousness. I'll give you
outfit a 4.

Comfy: (S)he's a colostomy bag. 4

Cornhole: Where are the free drinks you promised? 10

Andy: Bob, what about the MOVE disaster in Philly a few
years back? They didn't fit the mold so the government
firebombed their house. Killed women and children and
burned down an entire city block with 60 houses. I'll give
Stainette a 0, no imagination whatsoever.

Tony:

Well, Stainette, thanks loads. Don't call us, we'll call you.
Being a California weirdo, I guess you forgot to rub your
crystal, pray to Shirley Maclain and eat your alfalfa sprouts,
you new age neophytic neandrathal.


Well folks we're going ohave to stop her for a commercial
break.

Don't forget to stay tuned this evening after the pageant for
our special presentation:

Santa/The Pope/Chelsea Clinton: A KY covered menage a
trois.  Rated XXX



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From seiden.com!mis@seiden.com Tue Jan 25 19:51:34 1994
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The following text has been forwarded around enough that all trace of its
original author's identity has been lost.

- ------- Begin -------

 My girlfriend always seemed to enjoy seeing how much she could
 get away with doing some form of bondage stuff in public. She
 does this partly because she finds it fun, mostly because she
 knows it drives me out of my tree. Usually, I's able to fast-
 talk my way out of potentially embarrassing situations with
 Mundanes, but yesterday she very nearly got me fired.

 Yesterday afternoon we had lunch together. Afterward, she
 accompanied me back to work. I thought this slightly unusual,
 since she had never before expressed in interest in my work
 (electronic engineering), but it didn't occur to me that she
 had something planned.

 We arrived at my workbench, where I currently trying to figure
 why the $&#%@^$ board on which I am working is not performing
 the way it is designed. "Is this where you work?" she asked.

 "At the moment," I replied.
 I reached over to turn on the scope, thereby completely
 failing to notice the huge black studded collar she had
 produced from her purse. Before I could blink (it's amazing
 the speed at which she can do this), she had locked the collar
 snugly around my neck, and locked the end of the 6 foot jack
 chain to the center of the bench ( where there just happened
 to be a mounting hole, dammit). I turned to her in utter
 disbelief, mouth agape.

 "I'll be back for you at five," she said.
 "HAVE YOU GONE COMPLETELY WACKO!??!?!", I yelled in a hushed
 voice. "How the hell am I going to explain this!?!?!"
 "You'll think of something", she said, dropping the keys into
 her cleavage, "you always do".
 "But suppose I have to go to the bathroom", I countered.
 "Don't give me that", she hissed, "I've seen you go a whole
 day without visiting the bathroom"
 "But....," I tried to say.
 "SHHH! The subject is closed. I'll be back at five. Bye"

 She turned around and left, against my hushed protests. I sat
 in panic and tried to think out my situation. I tried to think
 of who might visit. Most of my co-workers were friends who
 knew that my girlfriend and I were a bit odd, so this
 shouldn't surprise them. But I had *no* idea what I was going
 to do if one of my bosses came in. I checked my watch to see
 how long I would have to endure this ignominy. 13:30 (I'm a
 military time weenie). "Three and a half hours," I thought. I
 heaved a heavy sigh, and got to work, such as I could.

 As it happened, three of my co-workers visited for what-not.
 All of them immediately noticed the collar (it would be hard
 not to) and asked if it was my girlfriend's idea. I said yes.
 They asked what I would do if my supervisor saw it. I told
 them I hadn't the faintest idea.

 One of the aforementioned colleagues took the bench next to
 me, and after a few remarks (and a question as to where he
 could get such a collar), settled down to work in silence.

 After some time, I checked my watch. 16:40. "Gee, I just might
 make it through this after all," I thought. I was even
 beginning to get a handle on the problem with the $#%&&$#
 board on which I was working. Murphy must have been standing
 right behind me, reading my thoughts, for not two minutes
 later one of my bosses entered the room. And not just any
 boss. Noooooooo. This was Mr. Narrowminded himself. This was
 the guy who took Lifespring *and* became a born-again funda-
 mentalist. How he came to have the power of hire-and-fire over
 us is one of the Great Mysteries of The Universe. We avoided
 this guy at all costs.

 His eyes fell upon me immediately. A few picoseconds later, he
 saw the collar around my neck in all it's splendor. "My life
 is over," I thought. I still hadn't thought of a plausible
 explanation for this. Mr Solderbrain (the name we called him
 behind his back; a corruption of his real name) started to
 walk slowly and deliberately over to me, his eyes fixed on the
 collar. Fifteen agonizing seconds later, he was standing next
 to me. I thought the guy sitting next to me was going to have
 seizures stifling all his giggles. I continued to work, acting
 as though there were nothing the least bit unusual about my
 predicament.

 Finally, he spoke.

 "What. the. HELL! is. THAT!?!?!" he said.

 I don't know how I thought of what I said. In fact, I'm pretty
 sure I didn't know what I was going to say until I was saying
 it. I'm even more amazed that Solderbrain actually bought it
 and didn't fire me on the spot.

 I turned to face him calmly, with total nonchalance, exuding
 complete confidence in what I was about to say, even though I
 didn't know what it was yet. I didn't even miss a beat.

 "Grounding strap," I said, and returned to work.

 The guy next to me fell off his chair and nearly died
 laughing.




-- 
 Tom Jennings -- tomj@wps.com -- World Power Systems --  San Francisco, Calif.

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        (reprinted without permission from Newsweek, January 3, 1994.)

        The '90s - Looking Back at the Interactive Salad Bar
                   by Dave Barry

        All things considered, the '90s were a pretty good decade.
        This is not to say that technology was an unadulterated plus in the
        '90s.  The Information Superhighway was pretty much of a dud.
        Remember that?  By the mid-'90s, just about everybody was hooked
        up to the vast international computer network, exchanging vast
        quantities of information at high speeds via modems and fiber-optic
        cable with everybody else.  The problem, of course was that even
        though the information was coming a lot faster, the vast majority
        of it, having originated with human beings, was still wrong.
        Eventually people realized that the Information Superhighway was
        essentially CB radio, but with more typing.  By late in the decade
        millions of Americans had abandoned their computers and turned to
        the immensely popular new VirtuLib 2000, a $14,000 device that
        enables the user to experience, with uncanny realism, the sensation
        of reading a book.

        Speaking of entertainment, the '90s saw an explosion of cable TV
        channels, offering innovative programing such as the Home Shopping
        Network's hugely successful show "Interactive Salad Bar," in which
        viewers, by manipulating a console in their homes, can direct the
        selection of ingredients in a studio thousands of miles away, and
        then have the actual salads delivered to their homes, ready to eat,
        WITHIN TWO WORKING DAYS....


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>From Computer Underground Digest #6.10


Date: 22 Jan 94 19:32:19 -0500
From: Conal.Garrity@F8004.N282.Z1.FIDONET.ORG(Conal Garrity)
Subject: File 2--DEF CON ][ Initial Announcement

Updated Last : 1.16.1994

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx DEF CON ][ Convention Initial Announcement

READ & DISTRIBUTE & READ & DISTRIBUTE & READ & DISTRIBUTE & READ & DISTRIBUTE

=============================================================================

What's this?  This is the initial announcement and invitation to DEF
CON ][, a convention for the "underground" elements of the computer
culture.  We try to target the (Fill in your favorite word here):
Hackers, Phreaks, Hammies, Virii coders, programmers, crackers,
Cyberpunk Wannabees, Civil Liberties Groups, CypherPunks, Futurists,
Artists, Etc..

WHO:   You know who you are, you shady characters.
WHAT:  A convention for you to meet, party, and listen to some speeches
       that you would normally never hear.
WHEN:  July 22, 23, 24 - 1994
WHERE: Las Vegas, Nevada @ The Sahara Hotel

So you heard about DEF CON I, and want to hit part ][?  You heard
about the parties, the info discussed, the bizarre atmosphere of Las
Vegas and want to check it out in person?  Load up your laptop muffy,
we're heading to Vegas!

Here is what Three out of Three people said about last years
convention:

"DEF CON I, last week in Las Vegas, was both the strangest and the
best computer event I have attended in years." -- Robert X. Cringely,
Info World

"Toto, I don't think we're at COMDEX anymore." -- Coderipper, Gray
Areas

"Soon we were at the hotel going through the spoils: fax sheets,
catalogs, bits of torn paper, a few McDonald's Dino-Meals and lots of
coffee grounds.  The documents disappeared in seconds."  -- Gillian
Newson, New Media Magazine

DESCRIPTION:

Last year we held DEF CON I, which went over great, and this year we
are planning on being bigger and better.  We have expanded the number
of speakers to included midnight tech talks and additional speaking on
Sunday.  We attempt to bring the underground into contact with
"legitimate" speakers.  Sure it's great to meet and party with fellow
hackers, but besides that we try to provide information and speakers
in a forum that can't be found at other conferences.

While there is an initial concern that this is just another excuse for
the evil hackers to party and wreak havok, it's just not the case.
People come to DEF CON for information and for making contacts.  We
strive to distinguish this convention from others in that respect.

WHAT'S NEW THIS YEAR:

This year will be much larger and more organized than last year.  We
have a much larger meeting area, and have better name recognition.
Because of this we will have more speakers on broader topics.  Expect
speaking to run Saturday and Sunday, ending around 5 p.m.  Some of the
new things expected include:

> An INet connection with sixteen ports will be there, _BUT_ will only
  provide serial connections because terminals are too hard to ship.
  So bring a laptop with communications software if you want to
  connect to the network.  Thanks to cyberlink communications for the
  connection.

> There will be door prizes, and someone has already donated a Cell
  Phone to give away.

> Dr. Ludwig will present his virii creation awards on Sunday.

> A bigger and better "Spot The Fed" contest, which means more shirts
  to give away.

> More room, we should have tables set up for information
  distribution.  If you have anything you want distributed, feel free
  to leave it on the designated tables.  Yes, this year there will be
  a true 24 hour convention space.

> A 24 hour movie / video suite where we will be playing all type of
  stuff.  VHS Format.  Mail me with suggested titles to show, or bring
  your own.

> Midnight Tech Talks on Friday and Saturday night to cover the more
  technical topics and leave the days free for more general
  discussions.


WHO IS SPEAKING:

I was going to run a list of the current speakers we have lined up,
but at this point things are still fluid.  In a few months when the
speakers list is more solidified I will release it.  I'll name the
people who have committed to attending in the next announcement.
Trust me.

WHERE THIS THING IS:

It's in Las Vegas, the town that never sleeps.  Really. There are no
clocks anywhere in an attempt to lull you into believing the day never
ends.  Talk about virtual reality, this place fits the bill with no
clunky hardware.  If you have a buzz you may never know the
difference.  It will be at the Sahara Hotel.  Intel as follows:

        The Sahara Hotel: 1.800.634.6078
        Room Rates: Single/Double $55, Triple $65, Suite $120
                    (Usually $200) + 8% tax
        Transportation: Shuttles from the airport for cheap

   NOTE:  Please make it clear you are registering for the DEF CON ][
   convention to get the room rates.  Our convention space price is
   based on how many people register.  Register under a false name if
   it makes you feel better, 'cuz the more that register the better for
   my pocket book.  No one under 21 can rent a room by themselves, so
   get your buddy who is 21 to rent for you and crash out.  Don't let
   the hotel people get their hands on your baggage, or there is a
   mandatory $3 group baggage fee.  Vegas has killer unions.


OTHER STUFF:

If you check out Wired like 1.5 or 1.6 there was a blurb about the new
Luxor hotel with it's total VR experience.  It looks like the first
true VR ride / experience for a group of people, it seats eight.
Intense.  A friend was just over there, and tested out the various
rides.  Not to be outdone the new MGM grand (Largest hotel in the
world) has a ride called the R360 which is basically a gyroscope they
trap you into with goggles.  We should get a group together and make a
mass trek over there and check it out.  If enough people are
interested I'll call and see if we can book a time to reserve space
for a bunch of us.  Both are within walking distance.

I'll whip up a list of stuff that's cool to check out in town there so
if for some reason you leave the awesome conference you can take in
some unreal sites in the city of true capitalism.

MEDIA:

Some of the places you can look for information from last year
include:

New Media Magazine, September 1993
InfoWorld, 7-12-1993 and also 7-19-1993 by Robert X. Cringely
Gray Areas Magazine, Vol 2, #3 (Fall 1993)
Unix World, ???
Phrack #44

COST:

Cost is whatever you pay for a hotel room split however many ways,
plus $15 if you preregister, or $30 at the door.  This gets you a
nifty 24 bit color name tag (We're gonna make it niftier this year)
and your foot in the door.  There are fast food places all over, and
there is alcohol all over the place but the trick is to get it during
a happy hour for maximum cheapness.

============================================================================

UPDATE:

I wanted to thank whoever sent in the anonymous fax to Wired that was
printed in issue 1.5  Cool deal!

Dan Farmer posted his paper on unix security on the net, and I've put
a copy of it on the ftp site if you want to grab it and take a look.
It's called "zen.txt"

I've received more scanned images from last year, and they will be put
on the ftp site.

=============================================================================

FOR MORE INFORMATION:

For InterNet users, there is a DEF CON anonymous ftp site at
cyberspace.com in /pub/defcon.  There are digitized pictures,
digitized speeches and text files with the latest up to date info
available.

For email users, you can email dtangent@defcon.org for more
information.

For non-net people call:

        The Alliance BBS [612] 251.8596 16.8k speed Dual Standard
        Open Access.  24 Hours.  Users get full access on 1st call.
        iirg disto site, Syncro Net, text files galore.
        Sysop: Metal Head (The huge guy from last year)
        A DEF CON directory is maintained here

For Snail Mail send to: DEF CON, 2709 E. Madison Street Suite #102,
                        Seattle, WA, 98112

For Voice Mail and maybe a human (me), 0-700-TANGENT on an AT&T phone.

A DEF CON Mailing list is maintained, and the latest announcements are
mailed automatically to you.  If you wish to be added to the list just
send email to dtangent@defcon.org.  We also maintain a chat mailing
list where people can talk to one another and plan rides, talk,
whatever.  If you request to be on this list your email address will
be shown to everyone, just so you are aware.

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The next announcement will have more updated information.  I'll hold off
on naming the speakers unless they commit to attending.  It looks to be
a great line up.

- The Dark Tangent

-- 
 Tom Jennings -- tomj@wps.com -- World Power Systems --  San Francisco, Calif.

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I have no idea why, but I typed in the whole SCUM Manifesto, and
converted it to HTML (the WorldWideWeb format). It's easily converted to
plain-er ASCII. 

Not sure what to do with it now.  Her 'tis.


                             the
<p>

                        SCUM Manifesto
<p>

                      by Valerie Solanas
<p>

<p>

This is the only copy of the SCUM Manifesto I've ever seen. This
version was published by PHOENIX PRESS, presumably in the UK (price
given as "75p"), though no contact information was provided. I have
no idea what, if any, changes were made to the text. I tried to
change nothing except change some obvious (to me) Anglicizations
back to Americanisms (eg. empathise to empathize). The copyright
is certainly retained by Valerie, where ever she is; likely jail.
Seeing how it's a manifesto, and the Phoenix people don't own it
either, I figured Valerie Solanas wouldn't mind my typing this all
in and giving it away for free.
<p>

If you have any authoritative data, or additions to make (skip the
comments on content please) please send them along, and I'll include
on my archive.
<p>

  -- tomj@wps.com (Tom Jennings), Jan 1994.
<p>

<p>

>From the back cover of the PHOENIX PRESS booklet:
<p>
<pre>
	"Valerie Solanas' SCUM Manifesto was written in 1967 and
	published in 1968, the year she shot and wounded Andy
	Warhol. The text used here is that of the 1983 edition of
	the Manifesto that was published by the Matriarchy Study
	Group."
</pre>
<p>

And now on with it.
<p>

                             the
<p>

                        SCUM Manifesto
<p>

                      by Valerie Solanas
<p>

<p>

Life in this society being, at best, an utter bore and no aspect
of society being at all relevant to women, there remains to
civic-minded, responsible, thrill-seeking females only to overthrow
the government, eliminate the money system, institute complete
automation and destroy the male sex.
<p>

It is now technically feasible to reproduce without the aid of
males (or, for that matter, females) and to produce only females.
We must begin immediately to do so. Retaining the mail has not even
the dubious purpose of reproduction. The male is a biological
accident: the Y (male) gene is an incomplete X (female) gene, that
is, it has an incomplete set of chromosomes. In other words, the
male is an incomplete female, a walking abortion, aborted at the
gene stage. To be male is to be deficient, emotionally limited;
maleness is a deficiency disease and males are emotional cripples.
<p>

The male is completely egocentric, trapped inside himself, incapable
of empathizing or identifying with others, or love, friendship,
affection of tenderness. He is a completely isolated unit, incapable
of rapport with anyone. His responses are entirely visceral, not
cerebral; his intelligence is a mere tool in the services of his
drives and needs; he is incapable of mental passion, mental
interaction; he can't relate to anything other than his own physical
sensations. He is a half-dead, unresponsive lump, incapable of
giving or receiving pleasure or happiness; consequently, he is at
best an utter bore, an inoffensive blob, since only those capable
of absorption in others can be charming.  He is trapped in a twilight
zone halfway between humans and apes, and is far worse off than
the apes because, unlike the apes, he is capable of a large array
of negative feelings -- hate, jealousy, contempt, disgust, guilt,
shame, doubt -- and moreover, he is <i>aware</i> of what he is and
what he isn't.
<p>

Although completely physical, the male is unfit even for stud
service.  Even assuming mechanical proficiency, which few men have,
he is, first of all, incapable of zestfully, lustfully, tearing
off a piece, but instead is eaten up with guilt, shame, fear and
insecurity, feelings rooted in male nature, which the most enlightened
training can only minimize; second, the physical feeling he attains
is next to nothing; and third, he is not empathizing with his
partner, but is obsessed with how he's doing, turning in an A
performance, doing a good plumbing job.  To call a man an animal
is to flatter him; he's a machine, a walking dildo. It's often said
that men use women. Use them for what? Surely not pleasure.
<p>

Eaten up with guilt, shame, fears and insecurities and obtaining,
if he's lucky, a barely perceptible physical feeling, the male is,
nonetheless, obsessed with screwing; he'll swim through a river of
snot, wade nostril-deep through a mile of vomit, if he thinks
there'll be a friendly pussy awaiting him. He'll screw a woman he
despises, any snaggle-toothed hag, and furthermore, pay for the
opportunity. Why? Relieving physical tension isn't the answer, as
masturbation suffices for that. It's not ego satisfaction; that
doesn't explain screwing corpses and babies.
<p>

Completely egocentric, unable to relate, empathize or identify,
and filled with a vast, pervasive, diffuse sexuality, the male is
pyschically passive. He hates his passivity, so he projects it onto
women, defines the make as active, then sets out to prove that he
is (`prove that he is a Man'). His main means of attempting to
prove it is screwing (Big Man with a Big Dick tearing off a Big
Piece). Since he's attempting to prove an error, he must `prove'
it again and again.  Screwing, then, is a desperate compulsive,
attempt to prove he's not passive, not a woman; but he <i>is</i>
passive and <i>does</i> want to be a woman.
<p>

Being an incomplete female, the male spends his life attempting to
complete himself, to become female. He attempts to do this by
constantly seeking out, fraternizing with and trying to live through
an fuse with the female, and by claiming as his own all female
characteristics -- emotional strength and independence, forcefulness,
dynamism, decisiveness, coolness, objectivity, assertiveness,
courage, integrity, vitality, intensity, depth of character,
grooviness, etc -- and projecting onto women all male traits --
vanity, frivolity, triviality, weakness, etc. It should be said,
though, that the male has one glaring area of superiority over the
female -- public relations. (He has done a brilliant job of convincing
millions of women that men are women and women are men). The male
claim that females find fulfillment through motherhood and sexuality
reflects what males think they'd find fulfilling if they were
female.
<p>

Women, in other words, don't have penis envy; men have pussy envy.
When the male accepts his passivity, defines himself as a woman
(males as well as females thing men are women and women are men),
and becomes a transvestite he loses his desire to screw (or to do
anything else, for that matter; he fulfills himself as a drag queen)
and gets his dick chopped off. He then achieves a continuous diffuse
sexual feeling from `being a woman'. Screwing is, for a man, a
defense against his desire to be female. He is responsible for:
<p>

<b>War</b>: The male's normal compensation for not being female,
namely, getting his Big Gun off, is grossly inadequate, as he can
get it off only a very limited number of times; so he gets it off
on a really massive scale, and proves to the entire world that he's
a `Man'. Since he has no compassion or ability to empathize or
identify, proving his manhood is worth an endless amount of mutilation
and suffering and an endless number of lives, including his own --
his own life being worthless, he would rather go out in a blaze of
glory than to plod grimly on for fifty more years.
<p>

<b> Niceness, Politeness, and `Dignity'</b>: Every man, deep down,
knows he's a worthless piece of shit. Overwhelmed by a sense of
animalism and deeply ashamed of it; wanting, not to express himself,
but to hide from others his total physicality, total egocentricity,
the hate and contempt he feels for other men, and to hide from
himself the hate and contempt he suspects other men feel for him;
having a crudely constructed nervous system that is easily upset
by the least display of emotion or feeling, the male tries to
enforce a `social' code that ensures perfect blandness, unsullied
by the slightest trace or feeling or upsetting opinion. He uses
terms like `copulate', `sexual congress', `have relations with'
(to men <b>sexual</b> relations is a redundancy), overlaid with
stilted manners; the suit on the chimp.
<p>

<b>Money, Marriage and Prostitution, Work and Prevention of an
Automated Society</b>: There is no human reason for money or for
anyone to work more than two or three hours a week at the very
most. All non-creative jobs (practically all jobs now being done)
could have been automated long ago, and in a moneyless society
everyone can have as much of the best of everything as she wants.
But there are non-human, male reasons for wanting to maintain the
money system:
<p>

1.  Pussy. Despising his highly inadequate self, overcome
    with intense anxiety and a deep, profound loneliness when by
    his empty self, desperate to attach himself to any female in
    dim hopes of completing himself, in the mystical belief that
    by touching gold he'll turn to gold, the male craves the
    continuous companionship of women. The company of the lowest
    female is preferable to his own or that of other men, who serve
    only to remind him of his repulsiveness. But females, unless
    very young or very sick, must be coerced or bribed into male
    company.
<p>

2.  Supply the non-relating male with the delusion of
    usefulness, and enable him to try to justify his existence by
    digging holes and then filling them up. Leisure time horrifies
    the male, who will have nothing to do but contemplate his
    grotesque self. Unable to relate or to love, the male must
    work. Females crave absorbing, emotionally satisfying, meaningful
    activity, but lacking the opportunity or ability for this, they
    prefer to idle and waste away their time in ways of their own
    choosing -- sleeping, shopping, bowling, shooting pool, playing
    cards and other games, breeding, reading, walking around,
    daydreaming, eating, playing with themselves, popping pills,
    going to the movies, getting analyzed, traveling, raising dogs
    and cats, lolling about on the beach, swimming, watching TV,
    listening to music, decorating their houses, gardening, sewing,
    nightclubbing, dancing, visiting, `improving their minds'
    (taking courses), and absorbing `culture' (lectures, plays,
    concerts, `arty' movies). Therefore, many females would, even
    assuming complete economic equality between the sexes, prefer
    living with males or peddling their asses on the street, thus
    having most of their time for themselves, to spending many
    hours of their days doing boring, stultifying, non-creative
    work for someone else, functioning as less than animals, as
    machines, or, at best -- if able to get a `good' job --
    co-managing the shitpile. What will liberate women, therefore,
    from male control is the total elimination of the money-work
    system, not the attainment of economic equality with men within
    it.
<p>

3.  Power and control. Unmasterful in his personal relations with
    women, the male attains to masterfulness by the manipulation
    of money and everything controlled by money, in other words,
    of everything and everybody.
<p>

4.  Love substitute. Unable to give love or affection, the male
    gives money. It makes him feel motherly. The mother gives milk;
    he gives bread. He is the Breadwinner.
<p>

5.  Provide the male with a goal. Incapable of enjoying the moment,
    the male needs something to look forward to, and money provides
    him with an eternal, never-ending goal: Just think of what you
    could do with 80 trillion dollars -- invest it! And in three
    years time you'd have 300 trillion dollars!!!
<p>

6.  Provide the basis for the male's major opportunity to control
    and manipulate -- fatherhood.
<p>

<b>Fatherhood and Mental Illness (fear, cowardice, timidity,
humility, insecurity, passivity)</b>: Mother wants what's best for
her kids; Daddy only wants what's best for Daddy, that is peace
and quiet, pandering to his delusion of dignity (`respect'), a good
reflection on himself (status) and the opportunity to control and
manipulate, or, if he's an `enlightened' father, to `give guidance'.
His daughter, in addition, he wants sexually -- he givers her
<b>hand</b> in marriage; the other part is for him. Daddy, unlike
Mother, can never give in to his kids, as he must, at all costs,
preserve his delusion of decisiveness, forcefulness, always-rightness
and strength. Never getting one's way leads to lack of self-confidence
in one's ability to cope with the world and to a passive acceptance
of the status quo. Mother loves her kids, although she sometimes
gets angry, but anger blows over quickly and even while it exists,
doesn't preclude love and basic acceptance. Emotionally diseased
Daddy doesn't love his kids; he approves of them -- if they're
`good', that is, if they're nice, `respectful', obedient, subservient
to his will, quiet and not given to unseemly displays of temper
that would be most upsetting to Daddy's easily disturbed male
nervous system -- in other words, if they're passive vegetables.
If they're not `good', he doesn't get angry -- not if he's a modern,
`civilized' father (the old-fashioned ranting, raving brute is
preferable, as he is so ridiculous he can be easily despised) --
but rather express disapproval, a state that, unlike anger, endures
and precludes a basic acceptance, leaving the kid with the feeling
of worthlessness and a lifelong obsession wit being approved of;
the result is fear of independent thought, as this leads to
unconventional, disapproved of opinions and way of life.
<p>

For the kid to want Daddy's approval it must respect Daddy, and
being garbage, Daddy can make sure that he is respected only by
remaining aloof, by distantness, by acting on the precept of
`familiarity breeds contempt', which is, of course, true, if one
is contemptible. By being distant and aloof, he is able to remain
unknown, mysterious, and thereby, to inspire fear (`respect').
<p>

Disapproval of emotional `scenes' leads to fear of strong emotion,
fear of one's own anger and hatred. Fear of anger and hatred combined
with a lack of self-confidence in one's ability to cope with and
change the world, or even to affect in the slightest way one's own
destiny, leads to a mindless belief that the world and most people
in it are nice and the most banal, trivial amusements are great
fun and deeply pleasurable.
<p>

The affect of fatherhood on males, specifically, is to make them
`Men', that is, highly defensive of all impulses to passivity,
faggotry, and of desires to be female.  Every boy wants to imitate
his mother, be her, fuse with her, but Daddy forbids this; <b>he</b>
is the mother; <b>he</b> gets to fuse with her. So he tells the
boy, sometimes directly, sometimes indirectly, to not be a sissy,
to act like a `Man'.  The boy, scared shitless of and `respecting'
his father, complies, and becomes just like Daddy, that model of
`Man'-hood, the all-American ideal -- the well-behaved heterosexual
dullard.
<p>

The effect of fatherhood on females is to make them male -- dependent,
passive, domestic, animalistic, insecure, approval and security
seekers, cowardly, humble, `respectful' of authorities and men,
closed, not fully responsive, half-dead, trivial, dull, conventional,
flattened-out and thoroughly contemptible. Daddy's Girl, always
tense and fearful, uncool, unanalytical, lacking objectivity,
appraises Daddy, and thereafter, other men, against a background
of fear (`respect') and is not only unable to see the empty shell
behind the facade, but accepts the male definition of himself as
superior, as a female, and of herself, as inferior, as a male,
which, thanks to Daddy, she really is.
<p>

It is the increase of fatherhood, resulting from the increased and
more widespread affluence that fatherhood needs in order to thrive,
that has caused the general increase of mindlessness and the decline
of women in the United States since the 1920s. The close association
of affluence with fatherhood has led, for the most part, to only
the wrong girls, namely, the `privileged' middle class girls,
getting `educated'.
<p>

The effect of fathers, in sum, has been to corrode the world with
maleness. The male has a negative Midas Touch -- everything he
touches turns to shit.
<p>

<b>Suppression of Individuality, Animalism (domesticity and
motherhood), and Functionalism</b>: The male is just a bunch of
conditioned reflexes, incapable of a mentally free response; he is
tied to he earliest conditioning, determined completely by his past
experiences. His earliest experiences are with his mother, and he
is throughout his life tied to her. It never becomes completely
clear to the make that he is not part of his mother, that he is he
and she is she.
<p>

His greatest need is to be guided, sheltered, protected and admired
by Mama (men expect women to adore what men shrink from in horror
-- themselves) and, being completely physical, he yearns to spend
his time (that's not spent `out in the world' grimly defending
against his passivity) wallowing in basic animal activities --
eating, sleeping, shitting, relaxing and being soothed by Mama.
Passive, rattle-headed Daddy's Girl, ever eager for approval, for
a pat on the head, for the `respect' if any passing piece of garbage,
is easily reduced to Mama, mindless ministrator to physical needs,
soother of the weary, apey brow, booster of the tiny ego, appreciator
of the contemptible, a hot water bottle with tits.
<p>

The reduction to animals of the women of the most backward segment
of society -- the `privileged, educated' middle-class, the backwash
of humanity -- where Daddy reigns supreme, has been so thorough
that they try to groove on labour pains and lie around in the most
advanced nation in the world in the middle of the twentieth century
with babies chomping away on their tits. It's not for the kids
sake, though, that the `experts' tell women that Mama should stay
home and grovel in animalism, but for Daddy's; the tits for Daddy
to hang onto; the labor pains for Daddy to vicariously groove on
(half dead, he needs awfully strong stimuli to make him respond).
<p>

Reducing the female to an animal, to Mama, to a male, is necessary
for psychological as well as practical reasons: the male is a mere
member of the species, interchangeable with every other male. He
has no deep-seated individuality, which stems from what intrigues
you, what outside yourself absorbs you, what you're in relation
to. Completely self-absorbed, capable of being in relation only to
their bodies and physical sensations, males differ from each other
only to the degree and in the ways they attempt to defend against
their passivity and against their desire to be female.
<p>

The female's individuality, which he is acutely aware of, but which
he doesn't comprehend and isn't capable of relating to or grasping
emotionally, frightens and upsets him and fills him with envy. So
he denies it in her and proceeds to define everyone in terms of
his or her function or use, assigning to himself, of course, the
most important functions -- doctor, president, scientist -- therefore
providing himself with an identity, if not individuality, and tries
to convince himself and women (he's succeeded best at convincing
women) that the female function is to bear and raise children and
to relax, comfort and boost the ego if the male; that her function
is such as to make her interchangeable with every other female. In
actual fact, the female function is to relate, groove, love and be
herself, irreplaceable by anyone else; the male function is to
produce sperm. We now have sperm banks.
<p>

In actual fact, the female function is to explore, discover, invent,
solve problems crack jokes, make music -- all with love. In other
words, create a magic world.
<p>

<b>Prevention of Privacy</b>: Although the male, being ashamed of
what he is and almost of everything he does, insists on privacy
and secrecy in all aspects of his life, he has no real <b>regard</b>
for privacy. Being empty, not being a complete, separate being,
having no self to groove on and needing to be constantly in female
company, he sees nothing at all wrong in intruding himself on any
woman's thoughts, even a total stranger's, anywhere at any time,
but rather feels indignant and insulted when put down for doing
so, as well as confused -- he can't, for the life of him, understand
why anyone would prefer so much as one minute of solitude to the
company of any creep around. Wanting to become a woman, he strives
to be constantly around females, which is the closest he can get
to becoming one, so he created a `society' based upon the family
-- a male-female could and their kids (the excuse for the family's
existence), who live virtually on top of one another, unscrupuluously
violating the females' rights, privacy and sanity.
<p>

<b>Isolation, Suburbs, and Prevention of Community</b>: Our society
is not a community, but merely a collection of isolated family
units.  Desperately insecure, fearing his woman will leave him if
she is exposed to other men or to anything remotely resembling
life, the male seeks to isolate her from other men and from what
little civilization there is, so he moves her out to the suburbs,
a collection of self-absorbed couples and their kids. Isolation
enables him to try to maintain his pretense of being an individual
nu becoming a `rugged individualist', a loner, equating non-cooperation
and solitariness with individuality.
<p>

There is yet another reason for the male to isolate himself: every
man is an island. Trapped inside himself, emotionally isolated,
unable to relate, the male has a horror of civilization, people,
cities, situations requiring an ability to understand and relate
to people. So like a scared rabbit, he scurries off, dragging
Daddy's little asshole with him to the wilderness, suburbs, or, in
the case of the hippy -- he's way out, Man! -- all the way out to
the cow pasture where he can fuck and breed undisturbed and mess
around with his beads and flute.
<p>

The `hippy', whose desire to be a `Man', a `rugged individualist',
isn't quite as strong as the average man's, and who, in addition,
is excited by the thought having lots of women accessible to him,
rebels against the harshness of a Breadwinner's life and the monotony
of one woman. In the name of sharing and cooperation, he forms a
commune or tribe, which, for all its togetherness and partly because
of it, (the commune, being an extended family, is an extended
violation of the female's rights, privacy and sanity) is no more
a community than normal `society'.
<p>

A true community consists of individuals -- not mere species members,
not couples -- respecting each others individuality and privacy,
at the same time interacting with each other mentally and emotionally
-- free spirits in free relation to each other -- and co-operating
with each other to achieve common ends. Traditionalists say the
basic unit of `society' is the family; `hippies' say the tribe; no
one says the individual.
<p>

The `hippy' babbles on about individuality, but has no more conception
of it than any other man. He desires to get back to Nature, back
to the wilderness, back to the home of furry animals that he's one
of, away from the city, where there is at least a trace, a bare
beginning of civilization, to live at the species level, his time
taken up with simple, non-intellectual activities -- farming,
fucking, bead stringing. The most important activity of the commune,
the one upon which it is based, is gang-banging. The `hippy' is
enticed to the commune mainly by the prospect for free pussy --
the main commodity to be shared, to be had just for the asking,
but, blinded by greed, he fails to anticipate all the other men he
has to share with, or the jealousies and possessiveness for the
pussies themselves.
<p>

Men cannot co-operate to achieve a common end, because each man's
end is all the pussy for himself. The commune, therefore, is doomed
to failure; each `hippy' will, in panic, grad the first simpleton
who digs him and whisks her off to the suburbs as fast as he can.
The male cannot progress socially, but merely swings back and forth
from isolation to gang-banging.
<p>

<b>Conformity</b>: Although he wants to be an individual, the male
is scared of anything in himself that is the slightest bit different
from other men, it causes him to suspect that he's not really a
`Man', that he's passive and totally sexual, a highly upsetting
suspicion.  If other men are "A" and he's not, he must not be a
man; he must be a fag. So he tries to affirm his `Manhood' by being
like all the other men.  Differentness in other men, as well as
himself, threatens him; it means <b>they're</b> fags whom he must
at all costs avoid, so he tries to make sure that all other men
conform.
<p>

The male dares to be different to the degree that he accepts his
passivity and his desire to be female, his fagginess. The farthest
out male is the drag queen, but he, although different from most
men, is exactly like all the other drag queens like the functionalist,
he has an identity -- he is female. He tries to define all his
troubles away -- but still no individuality. Not completely convinced
that he's a woman, highly insecure about being sufficiently female,
he conforms compulsively to the man-made stereotype, ending up as
nothing but a bundle of stilted mannerisms.
<p>

To be sure he's a `Man', the male must see to it that the female
be clearly a `Woman', the opposite of a `Man', that is, the female
must act like a faggot. And Daddy's Girl, all of whose female
instincts were wrenched out of her when little, easily and obligingly
adapts herself to the role.
<p>

<b>Authority and Government</b>: Having no sense of right and wrong,
no conscience, which can only stem from having an ability to
empathize with others... having no faith in his non-existent self,
being unnecessarily competitive, and by nature, unable to co-operate,
the male feels a need for external guidance and control. So he
created authorities -- priests, experts, bosses, leaders, etc --
and government. Wanting the female (Mama) to guide him, but unable
to accept this fact (he is, after all, a MAN), wanting to play
Woman, to usurp her function as Guider and Protector, he sees to
it that all authorities are male.
<p>

There's no reason why a society consisting of rational beings
capable of empathizing with each other, complete and having no
natural reason to compete, should have a government, laws or leaders.
<p>

<b>Philosophy, Religion, and Morality Based on Sex</b>: The male's
inability to relate to anybody or anything makes his life pointless
and meaningless (the ultimate male insight is that life is absurd),
so he invented philosophy and religion. Being empty, he looks
outward, not only for guidance and control, but for salvation and
for the meaning of life.  Happiness being for him impossible on
this earth, he invented Heaven.
<p>

For a man, having no ability to empathize with others and being
totally sexual, `wrong' is sexual `license' and engaging in `deviant'
(`unmanly') sexual practices, that is, not defending against his
passivity and total sexuality which, if indulged, would destroy
`civilization', since `civilization' is based entirely upon the
male need to defend himself against these characteristics. For a
woman (according to men), `wrong' is any behavior that would entice
men into sexual `license' -- that is, not placing male needs above
her own and not being a faggot.
<p>

Religion not only provides the male with a goal (Heaven) and helps
keep women tied to men, but offers rituals through which he can
try to expiate the guilt and shame he feels at not defending himself
enough against his sexual impulses; in essence, that guilt and
shame he feels at being male.
<p>

Most men men, utterly cowardly, project their inherent weaknesses
onto women, label them female weaknesses and believe themselves to
have female strengths; most philosophers, not quite so cowardly,
face the fact that make lacks exist in men, but still can't face
the fact that they exist in men only. So they label the male
condition the Human Condition, post their nothingness problem,
which horrifies them, as a philosophical dilemma, thereby giving
stature to their animalism, grandiloquently label their nothingness
their `Identity Problem', and proceed to prattle on pompously about
the `Crisis of the Individual', the `Essence of Being', `Existence
preceding Essence', `Existential Modes of Being', etc. etc.
<p>

A woman not only takes her identity and individuality for granted,
but knows instinctively that the only wrong is to hurt others, and
that the meaning of life is love.
<p>

<b>Prejudice (racial, ethnic, religious, etc)</b>: The male needs
scapegoats onto whom he can project his failings and inadequacies
and upon whom he can vent his frustration at not being female. And
the vicarious discriminations have the practical advantage of
substantially increasing the pussy pool available to the men on
top.
<p>

<b>Competition, Prestige, Status, Formal Education, Ignorance and
Social and Economic Classes</b>: Having an obsessive desire to be
admired by women, but no intrinsic worth, the make constructs a
highly artificial society enabling him to appropriate the appearance
of worth through money, prestige, `high' social class, degrees,
professional position and knowledge and, by pushing as many other
men as possible down professionally, socially, economically, and
educationally.
<p>

The purpose of `higher' education is not to educate but to exclude
as many as possible from the various professions.
<p>

The male, totally physical, incapable of mental rapport, although
able to understand and use knowledge and ideas, is unable to relate
to them, to grasp them emotionally: he does not value knowledge
and ideas for their own sake (they're just means to ends) and,
consequently, feels no need for mental companions, no need to
cultivate the intellectual potentialities of others. On the contrary,
the male has a vested interest in ignorance; it gives the few
knowledgeable men a decided edge on the unknowledgeable ones, and
besides, the male knows that an enlightened, aware female population
will mean the end of him. The healthy, conceited female wants the
company of equals whom she can respect and groove on; the male and
the sick, insecure, unself-confident male female crave the company
of worms.
<p>

No genuine social revolution can be accomplished by the male, as
the male on top wants the status quo, and all the male on the bottom
wants is to be the male on top. The male `rebel' is a farce; this
is the male's `society', made by <b>him</b> to satisfy <b>his</b>
needs. He's never satisfied, because he's not capable of being
satisfied. Ultimately, what the male `rebel' is rebelling against
is being male. The male changes only when forced to do so by
technology, when he has no choice, when `society' reaches the stage
where he must change or die. We're at that stage now; if women
don't get their asses in gear fast, we may very well all die.
<p>

<b>Prevention of Conversation</b>: Being completely self-centered
and unable to relate to anything outside himself, the male's
`conversation', when not about himself, is an impersonal droning
on, removed from anything of human value. Male `intellectual
conversation' is a strained compulsive attempt to impress the
female.
<p>

Daddy's Girl, passive, adaptable, respectful of and in awe of the
male, allows him to impose his hideously dull chatter on her. This
is not too difficult for her, as the tension and anxiety, the lack
of cool, the insecurity and self-doubt, the unsureness of her own
feelings and sensations that Daddy instilled in her make her
perceptions superficial and render her unable to see that the male's
babble is babble; like the aesthete `appreciating' the blob that's
labeled `Great Art', she believes she's grooving on what bores the
shit out of her. Not only does she permit his babble to dominate,
she adapts her own `conversation' accordingly.
<p>

Trained from an early childhood in niceness, politeness and `dignity',
in pandering to the male need to disguise his animalism, she
obligingly reduces her own `conversation' to small talk, a bland,
insipid avoidance of any topic beyond the utterly trivial -- or is
`educated', to `intellectual' discussion, that is, impersonal
discoursing on irrelevant distractions -- the Gross National Product,
the Common Market, the influence of Rimbaud on symbolist painting.
So adept is she at pandering that it eventually becomes second
nature and she continues to pander to men even when in the company
of other females only.
<p>

Apart from pandering, her `conversation' is further limited by her
insecurity about expressing deviant, original opinions and the
self-absorption based on insecurity and that prevents her conversation
from being charming. Niceness, politeness, `dignity', insecurity
and self-absorption are hardly conducive to intensity and wit,
qualities a conversation must have to be worthy of the name. Such
conversation is hardly rampant, as only completely self-confident,
arrogant, outgoing, proud, tough-minded females are capable of
intense, bitchy, witty conversation.
<p>

<b>Prevention of Friendship (Love)</b>: Men have contempt for
themselves, for all other men whom they contemplate more than
casually and whom they do not think are females, (for example
`sympathetic' analysts and `Great Artists') or agents of God and
for all women who respect and pander to them: the insecure,
approval-seeking, pandering male-females have contempt for themselves
and for all women like them: the self-confident, swinging,
thrill-seeking female females have contempt for me and for the
pandering male females. In short, contempt is the order of the day.
<p>

Love is not dependency or sex, but friendship, and therefore, love
can't exist between two males, between a male and a female, or
between two females, one or both of whom is a mindless, insecure,
pandering male; like conversation, live can exist only between two
secure, free-wheeling, independent groovy female females, since
friendship is based upon respect, not contempt.
<p>

Even amongst groovy females deep friendships seldom occur in
adulthood, as almost all of them are either tied up with men in
order to survive economically, or bogged down in hacking their way
through the jungle and in trying to keep their heads about the
amorphous mass. Love can't flourish in a society based upon money
and meaningless work: it requires complete economic as well as
personal freedom, leisure time and the opportunity to engage in
intensely absorbing, emotionally satisfying activities which, when
shared with those you respect, lead to deep friendship. Our `society'
provides practically no opportunity to engage in such activities.
<p>

Having stripped the world of conversation, friendship and love,
the male offers us these paltry substitutes:
<p>

<b>`Great Art' and `Culture'</b>: The male `artist' attempts to
solve his dilemma of not being able to live, of not being female,
by constructing a highly artificial world in which the male is
heroized, that is, displays female traits, and the female is reduced
to highly limited, insipid subordinate roles, that is, to being
male.
<p>

The male `artistic' aim being, not to communicate (having nothing
inside him he has nothing to say), but to disguise his animalism,
he resorts to symbolism and obscurity (`deep' stuff). The vast
majority of people, particularly the `educated' ones, lacking faith
in their own judgment, humble, respectful of authority (`Daddy
knows best'), are easily conned into believing that obscurity,
evasiveness, incomprehensibility, indirectness, ambiguity and
boredom are marks of depth and brilliance.
<p>

`Great Art' proves that men are superior to women, that men are
women, being labeled `Great Art', almost all of which, as the
anti-feminists are fond of reminding us, was created by men. We
know that `Great Art' is great because male authorities have told
us so, and we can't claim otherwise, as only those with exquisite
sensitivities far superior to ours can perceive and appreciated
the slop they appreciated.
<p>

Appreciating is the sole diversion of the `cultivated'; passive
and incompetent, lacking imagination and wit, they must try to make
do with that; unable to create their own diversions, to create a
little world of their own, to affect in the smallest way their
environments, they must accept what's given; unable to create or
relate, they spectate.  Absorbing `culture' is a desperate, frantic
attempt to groove in an ungroovy world, to escape the horror of a
sterile, mindless, existence.  `Culture' provides a sop to the egos
of the incompetent, a means of rationalizing passive spectating;
they can pride themselves on their ability to appreciate the `finer'
things, to see a jewel where this is only a turd (they want to be
admired for admiring). Lacking faith in their ability to change
anything, resigned to the status quo, they <b>have</b> to see beauty
in turds because, so far as they can see, turds are all they'll
ever have.
<p>

The veneration of `Art' and `Culture' -- besides leading many women
into boring, passive activity that distracts from more important
and rewarding activities, from cultivating active abilities, and
leads to the constant intrusion on our sensibilities of pompous
dissertations on the deep beauty of this and that turn. This allows
the `artist' to be setup as one possessing superior feelings,
perceptions, insights and judgments, thereby undermining the faith
of insecure women in the value and validity of their own feelings,
perceptions, insights and judgments.
<p>

The male, having a very limited range of feelings, and consequently,
very limited perceptions, insights and judgments, needs the `artist'
to guide him, to tell him what life is all about. But the male
`artist' being totally sexual, unable to relate to anything beyond
his own physical sensations, having nothing to express beyond the
insight that for the male life is meaningless and absurd, cannot
be an artist. How can he who is not capable of life tell us what
life is all about? A `male artist' is a contradiction in terms. A
degenerate can only produce degenerate `art'. The true artist is
every self-confident, healthy female, and in a female society the
only Art, the only Culture, will be conceited, kooky, funky, females
grooving on each other and on everything else in the universe.
<p>

<b>Sexuality</b>: Sex is not part of a relationship: on the contrary,
it is a solitary experience, non-creative, a gross waste of time.
The female can easily -- far more easily than she may think --
condition away her sex drive, leaving her completely cool and
cerebral and free to pursue  truly worthy relationships and
activities; but the male, who seems to dig women sexually and who
seeks out constantly to arouse them, stimulates the highly sexed
female to frenzies of lust, throwing her into a sex bag from which
few women ever escape. The lecherous male excited the lustful
female; he <b>has</b> to -- when the female transcends her body,
rises above animalism, the male, whose ego consists of his cock,
will disappear.
<p>

Sex is the refuge of the mindless. And the more mindless the woman,
the more deeply embedded in the male `culture', in short, the nicer
she is, the more sexual she is. The nicest women in our `society'
are raving sex maniacs. But, being just awfully, awfully nice, they
don't, of course descend to fucking -- that's uncouth -- rather
they make love, commune by means of their bodies and establish
sensual rapport; the literary ones are attuned to the throb of Eros
and attain a clutch upon the Universe; the religious have spiritual
communion with the Divine Sensualism; the mystics merge with the
Erotic Principle and blend with the Cosmos, and the acid heads
contact their erotic cells.
<p>

On the other hand, those females least embedded in the male `Culture',
the least nice, those crass and simple souls who reduce fucking to
fucking, who are too childish for the grown-up world of suburbs,
mortgages, mops and baby shit, too selfish to raise kids and
husbands, too uncivilized to give a shit for anyones opinion of
them, too arrogant to respect Daddy, the `Greats' or the deep wisdom
of the Ancients, who trust only their own animal, gutter instincts,
who equate Culture with chicks, whose sole diversion is prowling
for emotional thrills and excitement, who are given to disgusting,
nasty upsetting `scenes', hateful, violent bitches given to slamming
those who unduly irritate them in the teeth, who'd sink a shiv into
a man's chest or ram an icepick up his asshole as soon as look at
him, if they knew they could get away with it, in short, those who,
by the standards of our `culture' are SCUM... these females are
cool and relatively cerebral and skirting asexuality.
<p>

Unhampered by propriety, niceness, discretion, public opinion,
`morals', the respect of assholes, always funky, dirty, low-down
SCUM gets around... and around and around... they've seen the whole
show -- every bit of it -- the fucking scene, the dyke scene --
they've covered the whole waterfront, been under every dock and
pier -- the peter pier, the pussy pier... you've got to go through
a lot of sex to get to anti-sex, and SCUM's been through it all,
and they're now ready for a new show; they want to crawl out from
other the dock, move, take off, sink out.  But SCUM doesn't yet
prevail; SCUM's still in the gutter of our `society', which, if
it's not deflected from its present course and if the Bomb doesn't
drop on it, will hump itself to death.
<p>

<b>Boredom</b>: Life in a society made by and for creatures who,
when they are not grim and depressing are utter bores, van only
be, when not grim and depressing, an utter bore.
<p>

<b>Secrecy, Censorship, Suppression of Knowledge and Ideas, and
Exposes</b>: Every male's deep-seated, secret, most hideous fear
is of being discovered to be not a female, but a male, a subhuman
animal.  Although niceness, politeness and `dignity' suffice to
prevent his exposure on a personal level, in order to prevent the
general exposure of the male sex as a whole and to maintain his
unnatural dominant position position in `society', the male must
resort to:
<p>

1. Censorship. Responding reflexively to isolated works and phrases
   rather than cereberally to overall meanings, the male attempts
   to prevent the arousal and discovery of his animalism by censoring
   not only `pornography', but any work containing `dirty' words,
   no matter in what context they are used.
<p>

2. Suppression of all ideas and knowledge that might expose him or
   threaten his dominant position in `society'. Much biological
   and psychological data is suppressed, because it is proof of
   the male's gross inferiority to the female. Also, the problem
   of mental illness will never be solved while the male maintains
   control, because first, men have a vested interest in it -- only
   females who have very few of their marbles will allow males the
   slightest bit of control over anything, and second, the male
   cannot admit to the role that fatherhood plays in causing mental
   illness.
<p>

3. Exposes. The male's chief delight in life -- insofar as the
   tense, grim male can ever be said to delight in anything -- is
   in exposing others. It doesn't' much matter what they're exposed
   as, so long as they're exposed; it distracts attention from
   himself. Exposing others as enemy agents (Communists and
   Socialists) is one of his favorite pastimes, as it removes the
   source of the threat to him not only from himself, but from the
   country and the Western world. The bugs up his ass aren't in
   him, they're in Russia.
<p>

<b>Distrust</b>: Unable to empathize or feel affection or loyalty,
being exclusively out for himself, the male has no sense of fair
play; cowardly, needing constantly to pander to the female to win
her approval, that he is helpless without, always on the edge lest
his animalism, his maleness be discovered, always needing to cover
up, he must lie constantly; being empty he has not honor or integrity
-- he doesn't know what those words mean. The male, in short, is
treacherous, and the only appropriate attitude in a male `society'
is cynicism and distrust.
<p>

<b.Ugliness</b>: Being totally sexual, incapable of cerebral or
aesthetic responses, totally materialistic and greedy, the male,
besides inflicting on the world `Great Art', has decorated his
unlandscaped cities with ugly buildings (both inside and out), ugly
decors, billboards, highways, cars, garbage trucks, and, most
notably, his own putrid self.
<p>

<b>Hatred and Violence</b>: The male is eaten up with tension, with
frustration at not being female, at not being capable of ever
achieving satisfaction or pleasure of any kind; eaten up with hate
-- not rational hate that is directed at those who abuse or insult
you -- but irrational, indiscriminate hate... hatred, at bottom,
of his own worthless self.
<p>

Gratuitous violence, besides `proving' he's a `Man', serves as an
outlet for his hate and, in addition -- the male being capable only
of sexual responses and needing very strong stimuli to stimulate
his half-dead self -- provides him with a little sexual thrill..
<p>

<b.Disease and Death</b>: All diseases are curable, and the aging
process and death are due to disease; it is possible, therefore,
never to age and to live forever. In fact the problems of aging
and death could be solved within a few years, if an all-out, massive
scientific assault were made upon the problem. This, however, will
not occur with the male establishment because:
<p>

1. The many male scientists who shy away from biological research,
   terrified of the discovery that males are females, and show
   marked preference for virile, `manly' war and death programs.
<p>

2. The discouragement of many potential scientists from scientific
   careers by the rigidity, boringness, expensiveness, time-consumingness,
   and unfair exclusivity of our `higher' educational system.
<p>

3. Propaganda disseminated by insecure male professionals, who
   jealously guard their positions, so that only a highly select
   few can comprehend abstract scientific concepts.
<p>

4. Widespread lack of self-confidence brought about by the father
   system that discourages many talented girls from becoming
   scientists.
<p>

5. Lack of automation. There now exists a wealth of data which, if
   sorted out and correlated, would reveal the cure for cancer and
   several other diseases and possibly the key to life itself. But
   the data is so massive it requires high speed computers to
   correlate it all. The institution of computers will be delayed
   interminably under the male control system, since the male has
   a horror of being replaced by machines.
<p>

6. The money systems' insatiable need for new products. Most of
   the few scientists around who aren't working on death programs
   are tied up doing research for corporations.
<p>

7. The males like death -- it excites him sexually and, already
   dead inside, he wants to die.
<p>

8. The bias of the money system for the least creative scientists.
   Most scientists come from at least relatively affluent families
   where Daddy reigns supreme.
<p>

Incapable of a positive state of happiness, which is the only thing
that can justify one's existence, the male is, at best, relaxed,
comfortable, neutral, and this condition is extremely short-lived,
as boredom, a negative state, soon sets in; he is, therefore, doomed
to an existence of suffering relieved only by occasional, fleeting
stretches of restfulness, which state he can only achieve at the
expense of some female. The male is, by his very nature, a leech,
an emotional parasite and, therefore, not ethically entitled to
live, as no one as the right to life at someone else's expense.
<p>

Just as humans have a prior right to existence over dogs by virtue
of being more highly evolved and having a superior consciousness,
so women have a prior right to existence over men. The elimination
of any male is, therefore, a righteous and good act, an act highly
beneficial to women as well as an act of mercy.
<p>

However, this moral issue will eventually be rendered academic by
the fact that the male is gradually eliminating himself. In addition
to engaging in the time-honored and classical wars and race riots,
men are more and more either becoming fags or are obliterating
themselves through drugs. The female, whether she likes it or not,
will eventually take complete charge, if for no other reason than
that she will have to -- the male, for practical purposes, won't
exist.
<p>

Accelerating this trend is the fact that more and more males are
acquiring enlightened self-interest; they're realizing more and
more that the female interest is in <b>their</b> interest, that
they can live only through the female and that the more the female
is encouraged to live, to fulfill herself, to be a female and not
a male, the more nearly <b>he</b> lives; he's coming to see that
it's easier and more satisfactory to live <b>through</b> her than
to try to <b>become</b> her and usurp her qualities, claim them as
his own, push the female down and claim that she's a male. The fag,
who accepts his maleness, that is, his passivity and total sexuality,
his femininity, is also best served by women being truly female,
as it would then be easier for him to be male, feminine. If men
were wise they would seek to become really female, would do intensive
biological research that would lead to me, by means of operations
on the brain and nervous system, being able t to be transformed in
psyche, as well as body, into women.
<p>

Whether to continue to use females for reproduction or to reproduce
in the laboratory will also become academic: what will happen when
every female, twelve and over, is routinely taking the Pill and
there are no longer any accidents? How many women will deliberately
get or (if an accident) remain pregnant? No, Virginia, women don't
just adore being brood mares, despite what the mass of robot,
brainwashed women will say.  When society consists of only the
fully conscious the answer will be none. Should a certain percentage
of men be set aside by force to serve as brood mares for the species?
Obviously this will not do. The answer is laboratory reproduction
of babies.
<p>

As for the issue of whether or not to continue to reproduce males,
it doesn't follow that because the male, like disease, has always
existed among us that he should continue to exist. When genetic
control is possible -- and soon it will be -- it goes without saying
that we should produce only whole, complete beings, not physical
defects of deficiencies, including emotional deficiencies, such as
maleness. Just as the deliberate production of blind people would
be highly immoral, so would be the deliberate production of emotional
cripples.
<p>

Why produce even females? Why should there be future generations?
What is their purpose? When aging and death are eliminated, why
continue to reproduce? Why should we care what happens when we're
dead? Why should we care that there is no younger generation to
succeed us.
<p>

Eventually the natural course of events, of social evolution, will
lead to total female control of the world and, subsequently, to
the cessation of the production of males and, ultimately, to the
cessation of the production of females.
<p>

But SCUM is impatient; SCUM is not consoled by the thought that
future generations will thrive; SCUM wants to grab some thrilling
living for itself. And, if a large majority of women were SCUM,
they could acquire complete control of this country within a few
weeks simply by withdrawing from the labor force, thereby paralyzing
the entire nation.  Additional measures, any one of which would be
sufficient to completely disrupt the economy and everything else,
would be for women to declare themselves off the money system, stop
buying, just loot and simply refuse to obey all laws they don't
care to obey. The police force, National Guard, Army, Navy and
Marines combined couldn't squelch a rebellion of over half the
population, particularly when it's made up of people they are
utterly helpless without.
<p>

If all women simply left men, refused to have anything to do with
any of them -- ever, all men, the government, and the national
economy would collapse completely. Even without leaving men, women
who are aware of the extent of their superiority to and power over
men, could acquire complete control over everything within a few
weeks, could effect a total submission of males to females. In a
sane society the male would trot along obediently after the female.
The male is docile and easily led, easily subjected to the domination
of any female who cares to dominate him. The male, in fact, wants
desperately to be led by females, wants Mama in charge, wants to
abandon himself to her care. But this is not a sane society, and
most women are not even dimly aware of where they're at in relation
to men.
<p>

The conflict, therefore, is not between females and males, but
between SCUM -- dominant, secure, self-confident, nasty, violent,
selfish, independent, proud, thrill-seeking, free-wheeling, arrogant
females, who consider themselves fit to rule the universe, who have
free-wheeled to the limits of this `society' and are ready to wheel
on to something far beyond what it has to offer -- and nice, passive,
accepting `cultivated', polite, dignified, subdued, dependent,
scared, mindless, insecure, approval-seeking Daddy's Girls, who
can't cope with the unknown, who want to hang back with the apes,
who feel secure only with Big Daddy standing by, with a big strong
man to lean on and with a fat, hairy face in the White House, who
are too cowardly to face up to the hideous reality of what a man
is, what Daddy is, who have cast their lot with the swine, who have
adapted themselves to animalism, feel superficially comfortable
with it and know no other way of `life', who have reduced their
minds, thoughts and sights to the male level, who, lacking sense,
imagination and wit can have value only in a male `society', who
can have a place in the sun, or, rather, in the slime, only as
soothers, ego boosters, relaxers and breeders, who are dismissed
as inconsequents by other females, who project their deficiencies,
their maleness, onto all females and see the female as worm.
<p>

But SCUM is too impatient to wait for the de-brainwashing of millions
of assholes. Why should the swinging females continue to plod
dismally along with the dull male ones? Why should the fates of
the groovy and the creepy be intertwined? Why should the active
and imaginative consult the passive and dull on social policy? Why
should the independent be confined to the sewer along with the
dependent who need Daddy to cling to? A small handful of SCUM can
take over the country within a year by systematically fucking up
the system, selectively destroying property, and murder:
<p>

SCUM will become members of the unwork force, the fuck-up force;
they will get jobs of various kinds an unwork. For example, SCUM
salesgirls will not charge for merchandise; SCUM telephone operators
will not charge for calls; SCUM office and factory workers, in
addition to fucking up their work, will secretly destroy equipment.
SCUM will unwork at a job until fired, then get a new job to unwork
at.
<p>

SCUM will forcibly relieve bus drivers, cab drivers and subway
token sellers of their jobs and run buses and cabs and dispense
free tokens to the public.
<p>

SCUM will destroy all useless and harmful objects -- cars, store
windows, `Great Art', etc.
<p>

Eventually SCUM will take over the airwaves -- radio and TV networks
-- by forcibly relieving of their jobs all radio and TV employees
who would impede SCUM's entry into the broadcasting studios.
<p>

SCUM will couple-bust -- barge into mixed (male-female) couples,
wherever they are, and bust them up.
<p>

SCUM will kill all men who are not in the Men's Auxiliary of SCUM.
Men in the Men's Auxiliary are those men who are working diligently
to eliminate themselves, men who, regardless of their motives, do
good, men who are playing pall with SCUM. A few examples of the
men in the Men's Auxiliary are: men who kill men; biological
scientists who are working on constructive programs, as opposed to
biological warfare; journalists, writers, editors, publishers and
producers who disseminate and promote ideas that will lead to the
achievement of SCUM's goals; faggots who, by their shimmering,
flaming example, encourage other men to de-man themselves and
thereby make themselves relatively inoffensive; men who consistently
give things away -- money, things, services; men who tell it like
it is (so far not one ever has), who put women straight, who reveal
the truth about themselves, who give the mindless male females
correct sentences to parrot, who tell them a woman's primary goal
in life should be to squash the male sex (to aid men in this endeavor
SCUM will conduct Turd Sessions, at which every male present will
give a speech beginning with the sentence: `I am a turd, a lowly
abject turd', then proceed to list all the ways in which he is.
His reward for doing so will be the opportunity to fraternize after
the session for a whole, solid hour with the SCUM who will be
present. Nice, clean-living male women will be invited to the
sessions to help clarify any doubts and misunderstandings they may
have about the male sex; makers and promoters of sex books and
movies, etc., who are hastening the day when all that will be shown
on the screen will be Suck and Fuck (males, like the rats following
the Pied Piper, will be lured by Pussy to their doom, will be
overcome and submerged by and will eventually drown in the passive
flesh that they are); drug pushers and advocates, who are hastening
the dropping out of men.
<p>

Being in the Men's Auxiliary is a necessary but not a sufficient
condition for making SCUM's escape list; it's not enough to do
good; to save their worthless asses men must also avoid evil. A
few examples of the most obnoxious or harmful types are: rapists,
politicians and all who are in their service (campaigners, members
of political parties, etc); lousy singers and musicians; Chairmen
of Boards; Breadwinners; landlords; owners of greasy spoons and
restaraunts that play Muzak; `Great Artists'; cheap pikers and
welchers; cops; tycoons; scientists working on death and destruction
programs or for private industry (practically all scientists);
liars and phonies; disc jockies; men who intrude themselves in the
slightest way on any strange female; real estate men; stock brokers;
men who speak when they have nothing to say; men who sit idly on
the street and mar the landscape with their presence; double dealers;
flim-flam artists; litterbugs; plagiarisers; men who in the slightest
way harm any female; all men in the advertising industry; psychiatrists
and clinical psychologists; dishonest writers, journalists, editors,
publishers, etc.; censors on both the public and private levels;
all members of the armed forces, including draftees (LBJ and McNamara
give orders, but servicemen carry them out) and particularly pilots
(if the bomb drops, LBJ won't drop it; a pilot will). In the case
of a man whose behavior falls into both the good and bad categories,
an overall subjective evaluation of him will be made to determine
if his behavior is, in the balance, good or bad.
<p>

It is most tempting to pick off the female `Great Artists', liars
and phonies etc along with the men, but that would be inexpedient,
as it would not be clear to most of the public that the female
killed was a male. All women have a fink streak in them, to a
greater or lesser degree, but it stems from a lifetime of living
among men. Eliminate men and women will shape up. Women are
improvable; men are no, although their behavior is. When SCUM gets
hot on their asses it'll shape up fast.
<p>

Simultaneously with the fucking-up, looting, couple-busting,
destroying and killing, SCUM will recruit. SCUM, then, will consist
of recruiters; the elite corps -- the hard core activists (the
fuck-ups, looters and destroyers) and the elite of the elite --
the killers.
<p>

Dropping out is not the answer; fucking-up is. Most women are
already dropped out; they were never in. Dropping out gives control
to those few who don't drop out; dropping out is exactly what the
establishment leaders want; it plays into the hands of the enemy;
it strengthens the system instead of undermining it, since it is
based entirely on the non-participating, passivity, apathy and
non-involvement of the mass of women. Dropping out, however, is an
excellent policy for men, and SCUM will enthusiastically encourage
it.
<p>

Looking inside yourself for salvation, contemplating your navel, is not,
as the Drop Out people would have you believe, the answer. Happiness
likes outside yourself, is achieved through interacting with others.
Self-forgetfulness should be one's goal, not self-absorption. The
male, capable of only the latter, makes a virtue of irremediable
fault and sets up self-absorption, not only as a good but as a
Philosophical Good, and thus gets credit for being deep.
<p>

SCUM will not picket, demonstrate, march or strike to attempt to
achieve its ends. Such tactics are for nice, genteel ladies who
scrupulously take only such action as is guaranteed to be ineffective.
In addition, only decent, clean-living male women, highly trained
in submerging themselves in the species, act on a mob basis. SCUM
consists of individuals; SCUM is not a mob, a blob. Only as many
SCUM will do a job as are needed for the job. Also SCUM, being cool
and selfish, will not subject to getting itself rapped on the head
with billy clubs; that's for the nice, `privileged, educated',
middle-class ladies with a high regard for the touching faith in
the essential goodness of Daddy and policemen. If SCUM ever marches,
it will be over the President's stupid, sickening face; if SCUM
ever strikes, it will be in the dark with a six-inch blade.
<p>

SCUM will always operate on a criminal as opposed to a civil
disobedience basis, that is, as opposed to openly violating the
law and going to jail in order to draw attention to an injustice.
Such tactics acknowledge the rightness overall system and are used
only to modify it slightly, change specific laws. SCUM is against
the entire system, the very idea of law and government. SCUM is
out to destroy the system, not attain certain rights within it.
Also, SCUM -- always selfish, always cool -- will always aim to
avoid detection and punishment. SCUM will always be furtive, sneaky,
underhanded (although SCUM murders will always be known to be such).
<p>

Both destruction and killing will be selective and discriminate.
SCUM is against half-crazed, indiscriminate riots, with no clear
objective in mind, and in which many of your own kind are picked
off. SCUM will never instigate, encourage or participate in riots
of any kind or other form of indiscriminate destruction. SCUM will
coolly, furtively, stalk its prey and quietly move in for the kill.
Destruction will never me such as to block off routes needed for
the transportation of food or other essential supplies, contaminate
or cut off the water supply, block streets and traffic to the extent
that ambulances can't get through or impede the functioning of
hospitals.
<p>

SCUM will keep on destroying, looting, fucking-up and killing until
the money-work system no longer exists and automation is completely
instituted or until enough women co-operate with SCUM to make
violence unnecessary to achieve these goals, that is, until enough
women either unwork or quit work, start looting, leave men and
refuse to obey all laws inappropriate to a truly civilized society.
Many women will fall into line, but many others, who surrendered
long ago to the enemy, who are so adapted to animalism, to maleness,
that they like restrictions and restraints, don't know what to do
with freedom, will continue to be toadies and doormats, just as
peasants in rice paddies remain peasants in rice paddies as one
regime topples another. A few of the more volatile will whimper
and sulk and throw their toys and dishrags on the floor, but SCUM
will continue to steamroller over them.
<p>

A completely automated society can be accomplished very simply and
quickly once there is a public demand for it. The blueprints for
it are already in existence, and it's construction will take only
a few weeks with millions of people working on it. Even though off
the money system, everyone will be most happy to pitch in and get
the automated society built; it will mark the beginning of a
fantastic new era, and there will be a celebration atmosphere
accompanying the construction.
<p>

The elimination of money and the complete institution of automation
are basic to all other SCUM reforms; without these two the others
can't take place; with them the others will take place very rapidly.
The government will automatically collapse. With complete automation
it will be possible for every woman to vote directly on every issue
by means of an electronic voting machine in her house. Since the
government is occupied almost entirely with regulating economic
affairs and legislating against purely private matters, the
elimination of money wand with it the elimination of males who wish
to legislate `morality' will mean there will be practically no
issues to vote on.
<p>

After the elimination of money there will be no further need to
kill men; they will be stripped of the only power they have over
psychologically independent females. They will be able to impose
themselves only on the doormats, who like to be imposed on.  The
rest of the women will be busy solving the few remaining unsolved
problems before planning their agenda for eternity and Utopia --
completely revamping educational programs so that millions of women
can be trained within a few months for high level intellectual work
that now requires years of training (this can be done very easily
once out educational goal is to educate and not perpetuate an
academic and intellectual elite); solving the problems of disease
and old age and death and completely redesigning our cities and
living quarters. Many women will for a while continue to think they
dig men, but as they become accustomed to female society and as
they become absorbed in their projects, they will eventually come
to see the utter uselessnes and banality of the male.
<p>

The few remaining men can exist out their puny days dropped out on
drugs or strutting around in drag or passively watching the
high-powered female in action, fulfilling themselves as spectators,
vicarious livers*[FOOTNOTE: It will be electronically possible for
him to tune into any specific female he wants to and follow in
detail her every movement. The females will kindly, obligingly
consent to this, as it won't hurt them in the slightest and it is
a marvelously kind and humane way to treat their unfortunate,
handicapped fellow beings.] or breeding in the cow pasture with
the toadies, or they can go off to the nearest friendly suicide
center where they will be quietly, quickly, and painlessly gassed
to death.
<p>

Prior to the institution of automation, to the replacement of males
by machines, the male should be of use to the female, wait on her,
cater to her slightest whim, obey her every command, be totally
subservient to her, exist in perfect obedience to her will, as
opposed to the completely warped, degenerate situation we have now
of men, not only not only not existing at all, cluttering up the
world with their ignominious presence, but being pandered to and
groveled before by the mass of females, millions of women piously
worshiping the Golden Calf, the dog leading the master on a leash,
when in fact the male, short of being a drag queen, is least
miserable when his dogginess is recognized -- no unrealistic
emotional demands are made of him and the completely together female
is calling the shots. Rational men want to be squashed, stepped
on, crushed and crunched, treated as the curs, the filth that they
are, have their repulsiveness confirmed.
<p>

The sick, irrational men, those who attempt to defend themselves
against their disgustingness, when they see SCUM barrelling down
on them, will cling in terror to Big Mama with her Big Bouncy
Boobies, but Boobies won't protect them against SCUM; Big Mama will
be clinging to Big Daddy, who will be in the corner shitting in
his forceful, dynamic pants. Men who are rational, however, won't
kick or struggle or raise a distressing fuss, but will just sit
back, relax, enjoy the show and ride the waves to their demise.
<p>

			- end -
<p>


-- 
 Tom Jennings -- tomj@wps.com -- World Power Systems --  San Francisco, Calif.

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Thank-you TJ. I will make much use of thgis FABulous effort of yours!!!
--th'Deke Motif


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Subject: (fwd) The Day the Yippies Took Over Disneyland
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Subject: The Day the Yippies Took Over Disneyland
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     I'm surprised this hasn't ever come up before.  Doesn't anyone remember 
the day the Yippies took over Disneyland?

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

7 August 1970


            Disneyland Closed 6 Hours Early by Longhair Invasion

 
     Disneyland provided the stage Thursday for wild scenes of Yippie street 
theater, but it was a show that had no appeal for many of the visitors or the 
Disneyland management, which closed the park at 7 p.m. -- six hours early.
     About 300 long-haired youths invaded the Orange County attraction in 
celebration of Yippie Day.
     Disneyland officials gave refunds or rainchecks to almost 30,000 
"straight" visitors after closing the park.  
     Most of the tourists watched the radical circus with toleration, but by 
the end of the day tempers wore thin and parents grew weary of obscenities 
shouted in the faces of children and grandmothers.
     Fistfights and arguments broke out, and riot police, called for the first 
time in the history of the park, helped harried Disney security guards clear 
the grounds.
     Hours after the park was officially closed, police were still trying to 
clear about 50 reluctant longhairs from the area.
     Anaheim Police Department riot squad officers, outfitted in body armor and 
face masks and carrying riot batons, arrested 18 youths, mainly for 
gate-crashing or disturbing the peace.
     The longhairs, urged on by posters and notices in Southern California's 
underground press, showed up at the park about noon, apparently intent on 
"freaking out" the tourists.
     They stormed Tom Sawyer's Island, ran up the Viet Cong flag over the fort 
there, and turned on in Tomorrowland.  They were met in minor confrontations by 
Anaheim police and almost established a strike headquarters in the Disneyland 
City Hall.
     According to the advance notices, the longhair invasion was in observance 
of "Yippie Day," and to mark the anniversary of the first atomic bomb attack on 
Japan.  The notices promised a celebration in the best, raucous Yippie 
tradition.
     For years, Disneyland has had a policy of excluding longhairs from the 
grounds.  That policy -- "unwritten," according to a park official -- was 
relaxed this year.  But a dress code still in effect insists that all patrons 
wear shirts and shoes.
     The first Yippie Day celebrators in the park gathered on the drawbridge to 
Sleeping Beauty's Castle.  When the Disneyland Band made its regular circuit 
down Main Street, the younger band, in full regalia of buckskin fringe, blue 
denim and tie-die shirts, followed along, chanting: "Ho, Ho, Ho, Ho Chi Minh 
is going to win."
     Other chants lauded Charles Manson as a revolutionary hero.
     The longhairs snake-danced through the park, taking in the attractions en 
masse.
     Gathering enthusiasm and numbers as they went, the longhairs were 
scattered into small groups by Anaheim police.  But they gathered again and 
quickly established a beachhead on Tom Sawyer's Island -- and eventually 
controlled it completely.  There they ran up the Viet Cong flag, sang, danced 
and passed around marijuana.
     About 6 p.m., the Yippies, now numbering 300 to 350, attempted to storm 
Disneyland City Hall.  Officers held them back.  One youth hoisted a black flag 
with a red star and a superimposed marijuana leaf.
     As it was torn down, a woman stepped from behind her baby carriage and 
shouted at the crowd to stop yelling obscenities in the presence of children.
     Later, as the youths went on still another march down Main Street, a 
fistfight erupted between a longhair and a tourist.
     "Why don't they leave us alone?" an elderly woman said.
     Then Donald Tatum, Disneyland manager, ordered the park closed.  
Loudspeakers advised patrons to follow security guards and clear the park.
     Later, Jack Lindquist, Disneyland's director of marketing, said: "We went 
out of our way to show that two widely differing groups could have fun together 
at the same place.  And only a couple of hundred spoiled it for everyone."
     Two hours later, police said, a group of 50 longhairs were dispersed when 
they tried to occupy Disneyland Hotel.  As they left, visitors saw them 
snapping radio antennae off cars in the parking lot.


+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|"[Disney's machine] has placed a Mickey Mouse hat on every little developing |
| personality in America.  As capitalism, it is a work of genius; as culture, |
| it is mostly a horror."   --   Richard Schickel, "The Disney Version"       |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|  David P. Mikkelson    Calif. State Univ., Northridge   Northridge, CA  USA |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+

--
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"If you dare condemn my life it will come after you with a sharpened rake."
						- steven jesse bernstein


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>      I'm surprised this hasn't ever come up before.  Doesn't anyone remember 
> the day the Yippies took over Disneyland?
> 
>             Disneyland Closed 6 Hours Early by Longhair Invasion
>  
>      Disneyland provided the stage Thursday for wild scenes of Yippie street 
> theater, but it was a show that had no appeal for many of the visitors or the 
> Disneyland management, which closed the park at 7 p.m. -- six hours early.
>      About 300 long-haired youths invaded the Orange County attraction in 
> celebration of Yippie Day.

<<blah blah blah blah stuff omitted>>

>      Gathering enthusiasm and numbers as they went, the longhairs were 
> scattered into small groups by Anaheim police.  But they gathered again and 
> quickly established a beachhead on Tom Sawyer's Island -- and eventually 
> controlled it completely.  There they ran up the Viet Cong flag, sang, danced 
> and passed around marijuana.

This reminds me of something. A couple years ago I attended the first 
Lollapalooza concert when it stopped here in Atlanta. There was a nice 
mix of heads (stoners, metalheads, punks, rappers, not many yups) and 
positioned close to where I was hanging out in the back of the crowd was 
a young dreaded out white kid selling sweetgrass braids for smudging. 
Needless to say some bouncer type assholes came by to put a stop to this 
dangerous and uncapitalistic (seriously, the only reason they couldn't 
let this kid alone was that they weren't getting their cut, right?) youth. 
Maybe it was because I lived in the 
bay area for seven years, I don't know, maybe it was just the shrooms, 
anyway I knew immediately what the situation called for. If enough of us 
in the crowd would casually and very innocently just start moving around 
we could easily fuck things up enough to give the kid a healthy head 
start. Try as I might, I got no help from anybody, just a bunch of wierd 
looks. Think about it, what would the bouncers have been able to do if 
they suddenly found themselves surrounded by fifty very strange looking 
people who did nothing but, I don't know, how about "booed" at them? It 
would have been so easy to have thwarted the authoritarian assholes 
without resorting to anything more than a simple mind-fuck. What's the 
point? <sigh> I don't know. Is it, *gee those were the days*? I hope not. 
What ever happened to good old fashioned (and fun!) subversion for it's 
own sake?

I was too young to be a yippie but when I was about 14 I wrote a really 
cheesy poem that went something like,

I want to be a hippy, it'd be so cool
I want to be a yippy, Im no fool
Give me the lazy life, one of ease
Give me the hippy life, it'd be a breeze
I'm tired of regulations, I don't want no rules
Let's tear up the registrations, and burn all the schools

There were a few more lines and, as you can see, it was a really bad 
poem, but, hey, at least the sentiment was there. Christ, I've even been 
thinking about getting a <shudder, gasp> real job. Don't worry, I won't 
rush into anything stupid - I'll think it over for the next couple of 
years! 

Well, enough babbling, just consider this a *Howdy* from the bible belt.

just call me tj's little brother,

--
jeneric@wps.com



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Subject: FIRST CYPHERPUNKS VIRTUAL MEETING (fwd)
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It is considered gauche in current nettiquete to forward mail from
a somewhat-private conference, but (1) cypherpunks is a large,
large list and (2) the audience here is small.

Also -- if you cared to take part in this, you would be most welcome.
To a large extent the cypherpunks remain civil, and it's a pretty
smart and friendly bunch. Lots of people of the "L" Persuasion (ie.
libertarian, big and little "L").

Hell I might drop in just to see how it works. I've never played
with MUDs and MOOs, somehow, my interest in shit like this dropped
to zero some years ago. Too little of somethingorother, too much
physical work to say anything.

But it will be a good test of the technology to see if it proves useful;
cypherpunks is both narrow enough and broad enough to test it (as well
as savvy enough to pull it off.)



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              FIRST CYPHERPUNKS VIRTUAL MEETING AT BAYMOO

     The first cypherpunks virtual conference will be held at BayMOO on
Wednesday, February 9, at 8pm PST (11 EST).  To get there:
       telnet (or use a client) mud.crl.com 8888
 Follow instructions for login. Type help for any topic when you get into
the MOO.  @go Cypherpunk Central to get to the main room, then type HALL
to get to the conference hall. 
   One of the virtues of this hall is that there can be large scale AND
small scale discussions going on at the same time. Here, briefly, is how
it works: 
  A. People login and go the Cypherpunk Hall
  B. One person can assume the facilitator's chair. This allows the
facilitator to set several options for the room's function.
  C. In one mode, the facilitator allows open conversation: any can speak,
and all can be heard. 
  D. In another mode, the facilitator sets the allowable number of
speakers. Those wishing to speak must request permission from the
facilitator, who can set the number anywhere from one on up.  Those
wishing to speak must request, and are given a place in line; when any of
the current speakers yield, the next in line move up automatically to
speaker status.
 E. BUT -- and here is the ingenious feature of this
conference room-- folks can sit in any of 8 rows.  If they speak while
sitting in those rows and the room is in facilitated mode, only those
sitting in their row can hear them.  The net effect is that small
conversations can take place within the larger room, but they do not
interrupt the main course of the moderated discussion. 
   F. In addition, the virtual meeting room also has a built-in [about]
function. This feature allows all participants to indicate, by a bracketed
phrase in front of their names, the topic under discussion. In this way,
if the subject begins to drift, explicit acknowledgement of the change
can be made in the [about] header. Example: 
 
   agore [about clipperchips]: So you see, we really have your
                               welfare at heart.
   hthoreau [about clipperchips]: I decline your help.
   agore [about help]: Are you arguing that the government should 
                       just let illicit operations take place unmonitored?
  hthoreau [about interference]: That depends...


  This conference hall is still beta, so be patient if buglets appear. 
  I'll also try to put in a virtual bar for more laid-back chat.  The bar 
will be connected to Cypherpunk Central. Just examine the bartender to 
see how to order drinks -- or to concoct your own.
  Hope to see you there! 





-- 
 Tom Jennings -- tomj@wps.com -- World Power Systems --  San Francisco, Calif.

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 07:35:00 -0800 (PST)

Heard in Zuerich

Q: How many Microsoft engineers does it take to change a light bulb?

A: None.  Marketing declares darkness to be the industry standard.



-- 
 Tom Jennings -- tomj@wps.com -- World Power Systems --  San Francisco, Calif.

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An article or two from:



Computer underground Digest    Sun  Feb 6, 1994   Volume 6 : Issue 13
                           ISSN  1004-042X


Date: 31 Jan 1994 16:26:51 -0600
From: ROBERTS@DECUS.CA(Rob Slade, Ed. DECrypt & ComNet, VARUG rep,
Subject: File 2--"DIGITAL WOES" by Wiener (Book Review)

BKDGTLWO.RVW  931223

Addison-Wesley Publishing Co.
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"Digital Woes", Wiener, 1993, 0-201-62609-8, U$22.95/C$29.95
lauren@reed.edu

When reviewing books on technical topics, one quickly learns to dread
the work of those who do not actually practice in the field.  (Yes, we
are told that Wiener is a technical writer.  They may very well be
professionals, but the overwhelming majority are not technical
professionals.)  With this prejudice firmly in place, it came as a
delightful surprise to find that "Digital Woes" is an accurate,
well-researched, and thoroughly engaging treatment of the subject of
software risks.

Chapter one is a list of specific examples of software failures, large
and small.  The stories are thoroughly documented and well told.  The
choice of examples is careful, and useful as well, covering a variety
of problems.  One could, of course, add to the list.  In the virus
field programs are extremely limited in function and rarely exceed
3000 bytes in length, yet almost every viral strain shows some
programming pathology; most of the damage seems to be done by mistake.
The user interfaces of antivirals are subject to hot debate, perhaps
more importantly than in other systems because of the risks involved
in misunderstanding.  In regard to decision support, I recall the
assumption, on the part of Excel, that everyone wants to use linear
forecasting.  Everyone involved in technical fields will be able to
add other specific examples.  For those uninvolved, Wiener's work is
quite sufficient and convincing.

Chapter two is an explanation of why software contains bugs, and why
software errors are so deadly.  Techies will feel somewhat
uncomfortable with the lack of jargon, but persevere.  Initially, I
thought she had missed the point of the difference between analogue
and digital systems--until I realized I was in the middle of a
complete and clear explanation that never had to use the word
"analog".  (Technopeasants will, of course, appreciate the lack of
jargon.  Rest assured that the same ease of reading and clarity of
language holds throughout the book.)

Chapter three examines the various means used to try to ensure the
reliability of software--usually with a depressing lack of success.
As with all who have worked in the field, I can relate to the comments
regarding the difficulty of testing.  At one point I uncovered a bug
in the third minor variant of the fourth major release of the fifth
generation of a communications program.  Apparently I was the first
person on staff who had ever wanted to keep a running log between
sessions--and the functions I used combined to completely lock up the
computer.

Most RISKS-FORUM readers will by now be nodding and muttering, "So
what else is new".  However, Wiener here proves herself capable of
some valuable and original contributions beyond the pronouncements of
those working in the field.  Noting that she is familiar with
programmers who have never, in twenty years of work, had their code
incorporated into a delivered product, she raises the issue of what
this type of work environment does to the psyche of the worker.  My
grandfather carved the wooden decorations in our church, and, fifty
years after his death, I can still point that out.  However, in a
career of analysis, training and support, I can point to little beyond
an amount of Internet bandwidth consumed.  (Many would say "wasted".)
To the ephemeral nature of the craft, though, one must add the legacy
of constant failure.  Martin Seligman's "Learned Helplessness" points
out the danger quite clearly.  A similar thought was voiced some years
ago over the impact on developing youth of the then new video games,
and the fact that you could advance through levels but never,
ultimately, win.  These children are grown now.  You may know them as
"Generation X".

Chapter four deals with means to prevent failure.  Actually most of
the material discusses recovery--assuming that the system will
eventually fail, how to ensure that the failure causes the least
damage.

Chapter five is entitled "Big Plans" and looks at various proposed new
technologies and the risks inherent in them.  In this discussion
Wiener warns against those who are overly thrilled with the promises
of the new technology.  I agree, but I would caution that public
debate is also dominated by those strident with fear.  The arguments
of both sides tend to entrench to defeat the opposition, while the
public, itself, sits bemused in the middle without knowing whom to
believe.  It is a major strength of Wiener's work that the field is
explored thoroughly and in an unbiased manner.

Many books which try to present an objective view of a controversial
problem tend to trail off into meaningless weasel-words, but the final
chapter here concerns "The Wise Use of Smart Stuff."  Wiener lists a
good set of criteria to use in evaluating a proposed system.  The one
item I would recommend be toned down is the axiom that personal care
be excluded.  I keep an old Berke Breathed "Bloom County" cartoon in
my office wherein Opus, the Penguin, berates a computer for depriving
him of his humanity until the bemused machine attempts to confirm that
Opus is human.  The perceived coldness of our institutions is often
illusory.  I once worked in a geriatric hospital and thought it a
shame that our culture did not keep aging parents at home.  Until,
that is, I lived in a culture that did, and found that the
"technology" of our hospitals provided more human contact to the old
folks than did the "organic" home care.  I also note that the
belittled ELIZA is the only program to have passed the Turing test so
far.  A limited, unexpected, and hilarious pass, perhaps, but a pass
nonetheless.

I note, as I am reviewing this book, a press release by a headhunting
agency that half of all executives are computer illiterate.  The
survey method is extremely suspect, and I assume these figures are so
kind as to be ridiculous.  I would heartily recommend this work to
technical and non-technical workers alike.  Particularly, though, I
recommend it to those executives who are the ones to make the ultimate
decisions on major projects.  Please re-read it after the next vendor
demo you attend.

copyright Robert M. Slade, 1993   BKDGTLWO.RVW  931223

Postscriptum - my wife agrees with Peter Denning that I tend to
editorialize in my reviews.  This is likely true.  "Digital Woes",
however, deals with a topic which has prompted many editorials--and
deals with it well.  Permission granted to distribute with unedited
copies of the Digest
======================
DECUS Canada Communications, Desktop, Education and Security group
newsletters Editor and/or reviewer ROBERTS@decus.ca, RSlade@sfu.ca,
Rob Slade at 1:153/733 DECUS Symposium '94, Vancouver, BC, Mar 1-3,
1994, contact: rulag@decus.ca

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Date: 31 Jan 94 15:24:24 EST
From: Urnst Kouch/Crypt Newsletter <70743.1711@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject: File 3--Review: "Computer Viruses, Artificial Life & Evolution"

Just after Christmas, on December 27th, Addison-Wesley France
was served with a temporary legal notice prohibiting the
distribution of its recently published French language
edition of Mark Ludwig's "Little Black Book of Computer Viruses,
Volume 1." Entitled "Naissance d'un Virus," or "Birth of a Virus," the
French edition was selling for about $50 cash money. The company is
also distributing a disk containing copies of Ludwig's TIMID,
INTRUDER, KILROY and STEALTH viruses separately for a few dollars
more.

However, before the ink was dry on the paper a French judge dismissed
the complaint, said Ludwig between laughs during a recent interview.
Addison-Wesely France, he said, subsequently worked the fuss into good
publicity, enhancing demand for "Naissance d'un Virus."

Almost simultaneously, Ludwig has published through his American Eagle
corporation, its follow-up:  "Computer Viruses, Artificial Life and
Evolution," which will come as a great surprise to anyone expecting
"The Little Black Book of Computer Viruses, Part II."

For those absent for the history, "The Little Black Book of Computer
Viruses," upon publication, was almost uniformly denounced - by the
orthodox computer press - as the work of someone who must surely be a
dangerous sociopath.

Most magazines refused to review or mention it, under the working
assumption that to even speak about viruses for an extended length -
without selling anti-virus software - only hastens the digital
disintegration of the world.  Ludwig found himself engaged in a
continued battle for advertising for his book, losing contracts
without notice while the same publications continued to stuff their
pages with spreads for cosmological volumes of pornography.  This has
always been a curious, but consistent, hypocrisy. The real truth, for
the entirety of the mainstream computer press, is that it has _always_
been OK for anyone among the citizenry - including children - to
potentially rot their minds with various digital pictographic
perversions; it is not OK for the same audience to have the potential
to electronically rot their computers' files with Ludwig's simple
viruses, none of which are in the wild over a year after publication
of the book.  Another consideration the mainstream journals must deal
with is that if they were to suddenly and unilaterally control
pornographic advertising, the loss in revenue would cause some of them
to fail. In the end, it's always been a money thing. Pornographers
have it. Mark Ludwig is only one account.

[This has gotten more interesting since one of the larger computer
porn advertisers, the manufacturer of the CD-ROM "For Adults Only
(FAO) Gold" collection, has also entered the virus business, selling
issues of the virus-programming journal 40HEX on its "Forbidden
Secrets" CD-ROM. The "Forbidden Secrets" disk has been advertised in
the same full-page ads as the "FAO Gold" collections.]

Not surprisingly, the controversy has kept sales of "The Little Black
Book" brisk since its initial printing and financed the expansion of
American Eagle.

Which brings us, finally, to "Computer Viruses, Artificial Life and
Evolution," a book which takes a hard scientific look at life and the
theory of evolution, and only incidentally contains working viruses.

To grapple with the underlying philosophy behind "CVAL&E," its helpful
to know Ludwig was a physics major at Caltech in Pasadena, CA, at a
time when Nobel-laureate theoretical physicists Richard Feynman and
Murray Gell-Mann were in residence.  The ruthlessness with which these
scientists dealt with softer disciplines not up to the task of
thorough theoretical analysis coupled with the academic meat-grinder
that is Caltech's reputation, casts its shadow on "CVAL&E."

Ludwig writes in the introduction:

". . . Once I was a scientist of scientists.  Born in the age of
Sputnik, and raised in the home of a chemist, I was enthralled with
science as a child. If I wasn't dissolving pennies in acid, I was
winding an electromagnet, or playing with a power transistor, or . . .
freezing ants with liquid propane.  When I went to MIT for college I
finally got my chance to totally immerse myself in my first love.  I
did rather well at it too, finishing my undergraduate work in two
years and going on to study elementary particle physics under Nobel
laureates at Caltech.  Yet by the time I got my doctorate the spell
was forever broken . . . I saw less and less of the noble scientist
and more and more of the self-satisfied expert."

And this sets the tenor for the rest of the book, as Ludwig analyzes
Darwinian evolution and, by the standards of intellectual rigor
imposed by post-War theoretical physics, declares it even more squishy
than theories of quantum gravity and black holes; the answer as to how
present day life came from the primordial soup of biopolymers is
always skittering away out of reach in an impenetrable fog of
hypothetical bullshit.

It's not clear at all how a mixture of even the most complex
biomacromolecules resulted in predecessors of _E. coli_, the simplest
algae or any precursors of the archaebacteria, without resorting to
creationism or spontaneous generation.  Ludwig - using some heavy math
- chews the probabilities up and spits them out as miraculous, not
very helpful when you're wearing the traditional scientist's hat.
Then he does the same for the simplest of computer viruses - using as
examples a disk copying program which, if altered in one line of
instructions, can be made into a primitive boot sector virus.

To understand the material fully is a tough job; if you don't have
some experience with statistical thermodynamics, probabilistic studies
and differential equations, frankly, it will take you a while to get
up to the speed where the lion's share of "CVA&E" doesn't lose you.

Ludwig's science is good, his understanding of basic biochmemistry and
microbiology solid enough to support any arguments made as he works
his way through the inadequacies of evolution.  Unlike Steven Levy's
"Artificial Life," Ludwig makes no chirpy assertions that such as the
Brain virus are a mere step away from animation.  Instead, in "CVA&E"
he asks the reader to concede that Darwinian theory doesn't seen
likely to explain anything about genesis satisfying to pure
determinists.  And, outside of whole-heartedly buying into astronomer
Fred Hoyle's ideas about freeze-dried virus and bacterial suspensions
frozen in cometary ice and dropped into the atmosphere as seed from
the depths of space, research into the dawn of life of Earth is going
nowhere fast. So Ludwig asks us not to discard computer viruses and
computerized artificial life as potential tools to look at the
problem.

By the finish Ludwig, of course, hasn't come up with the answer
either.  And, he admits, you have to fudge a bit
 - maybe a lot - to swallow the contemporary ideas about artificial
life.  And then he takes another risk by asking readers to entertain
the fancy that if we don't get a handle on some fresh ideas about
evolution and the origins of life, sooner or later something will show
up in our backyard and get a handle on us. It's a wild ride, but an
enjoyable one.

"CVAL&E" also includes some interesting programs, most notably
SLIP-Scan, a variably encrypting virus which uses the Trident
Polymorphic Encryptor and a code construct Ludwig calls the Darwinian
Genetic Mutation Engine.  This engine, which Ludwig has written to
mimic a simple gene, encodes constantly changing information within
the virus that is used to modulate the operation of the Trident
encryptor, thus confering on the virus a directed evolution in
successive generations sensitive to the presence of anti-virus
software elimination of replicants in large numbers of infections.

SLIP-Scan replicates and places a segment of information produced by
the Darwinian Engine in an unused portion of computer memory, where it
is read by a different member of the SLIP-Scan population and used to
hybridize the data carried in the subsequent progeny.  Ludwig has made
this a computerized mimic of one of the simplest ways in which
bacteria exchange genetic information, via small connecting tubes
through the medium called pili. In SLIP-Scan's case, computer RAM is
the bridge through the environment along which the "genetic" material
is transferred between virus offspring.  The result of this is that
polymorphic progeny of SLIP-Scan not caught by anti-virus software
slowly are selected in a Darwinian manner for offspring which cannot
be detected.  While this might sound threatening, the population of
viruses required to demonstrate the effect is such that it is unlikely
it would be a factor on real world computers, even if the virus were
in the wild.

The winning program in Ludwig's First International Virus Writing
Contest is also in "CVAL&E."  Written by a virus programmer known as
Stormbringer, the Companion-101 virus is used by the author to work
out the probability of viruses evolving into different variations
through faults in computer memory and translation.

"Computer Viruses, Artificial Life and Evolution" is an intriguing,
thorough read.  If you go looking for it, be prepared to spend some
time.

[American Eagle, POB 41401, Tucson, AZ  85717]

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End of Computer Underground Digest #6.13
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-- 
 Tom Jennings -- tomj@wps.com -- World Power Systems --  San Francisco, Calif.

From tomj Mon Feb 14 13:23:50 1994
Received: by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery)
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From: tomj (Tom Jennings)
Message-Id: <9402142123.AA05683@wps.com>
Subject: protest made easy...
To: shit-list
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 13:23:42 -0800 (PST)
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CPSR (Computer Professionals For Social responsibility) are putting
together a couple of petitions. You can add your name to them simply by
sending email with the text-in-quotes below, anywhere within the message
body. (SOme machinery scans for it automatically.)

Clipper is the incredibly stupid system the Feds are mking a big push
(as of a week ago) to pass. It's realyl bad policy.

HR 3627 is about encryption and such,  I just read a fair amount about
it less than a week ago, and now can't recall anything, except its a
"good thing" from a civil-liberty POV. Sigh.

Max, could you run this in FidoNews? Of course it's only pertinent to us
USers, but it has some impact on non-USers cuz the feds want this shit
exported -- Clipper especialyl is reputed to have a back door, and hence
furrin nationals data encrypted thusly isn't safe from the Amurrican
data police!


If you have a unix shell, do this:

        echo "I oppose clipper"    | mail clipper.petition@cpsr.org
        echo "I support H.R. 3627" | mail cantwell@eff.org


-- 
 Tom Jennings -- tomj@wps.com -- World Power Systems --  San Francisco, Calif.

From tomj Mon Feb 21 13:46:45 1994
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Subject: International Connectivity list
To: shit-list
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Imperialism continued, or Reach out and Take someones Money. Or maybe
it's not that bad. I'm uncertain.

the two-letter code in the table is the domain for that country, ie.
".ca" is Canada (aka 51st State, or is that Puerto Rico, nahh, ain't
worth as much money).


Message-Id: <9402212129.AA10679@toad.com>
To: tomj@wps.com, randy@psg.com
Subject: International Connectivity list
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 94 13:29:48 -0800
From: gnu@toad.com

------- Forwarded Message

Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 12:14:39 -0500
From: farber@central.cis.upenn.edu (David Farber)
Subject: International Connectivity
To: interesting-people@eff.org (interesting-people mailing list)

The following is a list of countries reachable via the Internet .. djf

Date: Mon, 21 Feb 94 11:05:54 -0600
From: lhl@cs.wisc.edu (L.H. Landweber)
To: farber@central.cis.upenn.edu
Subject: International Connectivity

Dave
Here is the latest list.
Regards
Larry
PS Five days after this was published, Peru joined the
Internet.
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INTERNATIONAL CONNECTIVITY
Version 10 - February 15, 1994

Please send corrections, information and/or comments to:

Larry Landweber
Computer Sciences Dept.
University of Wisconsin - Madison
1210 W. Dayton St.
Madison, WI 53706
lhl@cs.wisc.edu
FAX 1-608-265-2635

Include details, e.g., on connections, sites,  contacts,  protocols,
etc.

Thanks to the many people from around the world  who  have  provided
information. This version (postscript, ditroff, text forms), maps in
postscript,  and earlier versions  may also be obtained by anonymous
ftp from ftp.cs.wisc.edu in the connectivity_table directory.

In the following, "BITNET" is used generically to  refer  to  BITNET
plus  similar networks around the world (e.g., EARN, NETNORTH,
GULFNET, etc.).

SUMMARY

NUMBER OF ENTITIES WITH INTERNATIONAL NETWORK CONNECTIVITY = 146
NUMBER OF ENTITIES WITHOUT INTERNATIONAL NETWORK CONNECTIVITY = 91

BITNET
Col. 2 (Entities with international BITNET links.)
b: minimal, one to five domestic BITNET sites, 19 entities
B: widespread, more than five domestic BITNET sites, 32 entities

IP INTERNET
Col. 3 (Entities with international IP Internet links.)
I: = operational, accessible from entire open IP Internet, 62 entities

UUCP
Col. 4 (Entities with domestic UUCP sites which  are  connected
to the Global Multiprotocol Open Internet.)
u: minimal, one to five domestic UUCP sites, 57 entities
U: widespread, more than five domestic UUCP sites, 68 entities

FIDONET
Col. 5 (Entities with domestic FIDONET  sites  which  are
connected to the Global Multiprotocol Open Internet)
f: minimal, one to five domestic FIDONET sites, 29 entities
F: widespread, more than five domestic FIDONET sites, 59 entities

OSI
Col. 6 (Entities with international  X.400  links  to  domestic
sites  which  are  connected  to  the Global Multiprotocol Open
Internet).
o: minimal, one to five domestic X.400 sites, 8 entities
O: widespread, more than five domestic X.400 sites, 23 entities

ISO 3166 country codes are included in the Table for each
entity. Note that these do not always agree with the top level
DNS code(s) used for a particular country.

Network connections to Algeria and Lebanon will soon be operational.
Testing of network connections to Antigua and Barbuda, Bahamas,
Guyana, St. Vincent and the Grenadines is underway.

 ----- AF       Afghanistan (Islamic Republic of)
 ----- AL       Albania (Republic of)
 ----- DZ       Algeria (People's Democratic Republic of)
 ----- AS       American Samoa
 ----- AD       Andorra (Principality of)
 ----- AO       Angola (People's Republic of)
 ----- AI       Anguilla
 -I--- AQ       Antarctica
 ----- AG       Antigua and Barbuda
 BIUF- AR       Argentina (Argentine Republic)
 --U-- AM       Armenia
 ---f- AW       Aruba
 -IUFo AU       Australia
 BIUFO AT       Austria (Republic of)
 --U-- AZ       Azerbaijan
 ----- BS       Bahamas (Commonwealth of the)
 b---- BH       Bahrain (State of)
 ----- BD       Bangladesh (People's Republic of)
 --u-- BB       Barbados
 --UF- BY       Belarus
 BIUFO BE       Belgium (Kingdom of)
 --u-- BZ       Belize
 ----- BJ       Benin (People's Republic of)
 --Uf- BM       Bermuda
 ----- BT       Bhutan (Kingdom of)
 --U-- BO       Bolivia (Republic of)
 ----- BA       Bosnia-Herzegovina
 --uf- BW       Botswana (Republic of)
 ----- BV       Bouvet Island
 BIUFO BR       Brazil (Federative Republic of)
 ----- IO       British Indian Ocean Territory
 ----- BN       Brunei Darussalam
 bIUF- BG       Bulgaria (Republic of)
 --U-- BF       Burkina Faso (formerly Upper Volta)
 ----- BI       Burundi (Republic of)
 ----- KH       Cambodia
 --u-- CM       Cameroon (Republic of)
 BIUFO CA       Canada
 ----- CV       Cape Verde (Republic of)
 ----- KY       Cayman Islands
 ----- CF       Central African Republic
 ----- TD       Chad (Republic of)
 BIUF- CL       Chile (Republic of)
 --u-O CN       China (People's Republic of)
 ----- CX       Christmas Island (Indian Ocean)
 ----- CC       Cocos (Keeling) Islands
 B-u-- CO       Colombia (Republic of)
 ----- KM       Comoros (Islamic Federal Republic of the)
 --u-- CG       Congo (Republic of the)
 --u-- CK       Cook Islands
 bIuf- CR       Costa Rica (Republic of)
 --uf- CI       Cote d'Ivoire (Republic of)
 -IuFo HR       Croatia
 --U-- CU       Cuba (Republic of)
 bI--- CY       Cyprus (Republic of)
 BIUF- CZ       Czech Republic
 bIUFO DK       Denmark (Kingdom of)
 ----- DJ       Djibouti (Republic of)
 ----- DM       Dominica (Commonwealth of)
 --Uf- DO       Dominican Republic
 ----- TP       East Timor
 bIu-- EC       Ecuador (Republic of)
 bIU-- EG       Egypt (Arab Republic of)
 ----- SV       El Salvador (Republic of)
 ----- GQ       Equatorial Guinea (Republic of)
 -IUF- EE       Estonia (Republic of)
 ---f- ET       Ethiopia (People's Democratic Republic of)
 ----- FK       Falkland Islands (Malvinas)
 --u-- FO       Faroe Islands
 -Iu-- FJ       Fiji (Republic of)
 BIUFO FI       Finland (Republic of)
 BIUFO FR       France (French Republic)
 --u-- GF       French Guiana
 --u-- PF       French Polynesia
 ----- TF       French Southern Territories
 ----- GA       Gabon (Gabonese Republic)
 ----- GM       Gambia (Republic of the)
 --UF- GE       Georgia (Republic of)
 BIUFO DE       Germany (Federal Republic of)
 --uF- GH       Ghana (Republic of )
 ----- GI       Gibraltar
 BIUFO GR       Greece (Hellenic Republic)
 -I-f- GL       Greenland
 --u-- GD       Grenada
 b-uf- GP       Guadeloupe (French Department of)
 -I-F- GU       Guam
 --u-- GT       Guatemala (Republic of)
 ----- GN       Guinea (Republic of)
 ----- GW       Guinea-Bissau (Republic of)
 ----- GY       Guyana (Republic of)
 ----- HT       Haiti (Republic of)
 ----- HM       Heard and McDonald Islands
 ----- HN       Honduras (Republic of)
 BI-F- HK       Hong Kong
 BIUFo HU       Hungary (Republic of)
 -IUFo IS       Iceland (Republic of)
 bIUfO IN       India (Republic of)
 --u-- ID       Indonesia (Republic of)
 b---- IR       Iran (Islamic Republic of)
 ----- IQ       Iraq (Republic of)
 BIUFO IE       Ireland
 BIUF- IL       Israel (State of)
 BIUFO IT       Italy (Italian Republic)
 --u-- JM       Jamaica
 BIUF- JP       Japan
 ----- JO       Jordan (Hashemite Kingdom of)
 --Uf- KZ       Kazakhstan
 ---f- KE       Kenya (Republic of)
 --u-- KI       Kiribati (Republic of)
 ----- KP       Korea (Democratic People's Republic of)
 BIUFO KR       Korea (Republic of )
 -I--- KW       Kuwait (State of)
 --U-- KG       Kyrgyz Republic
 ----- LA       Lao People's Democratic Republic
 -IUF- LV       Latvia (Republic of)
 ----- LB       Lebanon (Lebanese Republic)
 --u-- LS       Lesotho (Kingdom of)
 ----- LR       Liberia (Republic of)
 ----- LY       Libyan Arab Jamahiriya
 -I-f- LI       Liechtenstein (Principality of)
 --UFo LT       Lithuania
 bIUFo LU       Luxembourg (Grand Duchy of)
 ---F- MO       Macau (Ao-me'n)
 --u-- MK       Macedonia (Former Yugoslav Republic of)
 --u-- MG       Madagascar (Democratic Republic of)
 ---f- MW       Malawi (Republic of)
 bIUF- MY       Malaysia
 ----- MV       Maldives (Republic of)
 --U-- ML       Mali (Republic of)
 --u-- MT       Malta (Republic of)
 ----- MH       Marshall Islands (Republic of the)
 ----- MQ       Martinique (French Department of)
 ----- MR       Mauritania (Islamic Republic of)
 --uf- MU       Mauritius
 ----- YT       Mayotte
 BIuF- MX       Mexico (United Mexican States)
 ----- FM       Micronesia (Federated States of)
 --uF- MD       Moldova (Republic of)
 ----- MC       Monaco (Principality of)
 ----- MN       Mongolia
 ----- MS       Montserrat
 ----- MA       Morocco (Kingdom of)
 --Uf- MZ       Mozambique (People's Republic of)
 ----- MM       Myanmar (Union of)
 --Uf- NA       Namibia (Republic of)
 ----- NR       Nauru (Republic of)
 ----- NP       Nepal (Kingdom of)
 BIUFO NL       Netherlands (Kingdom of the)
 --u-- AN       Netherlands Antilles
 ----- NT       Neutral Zone (between Saudi Arabia and Iraq)
 --U-- NC       New Caledonia
 -IUF- NZ       New Zealand
 --u-- NI       Nicaragua (Republic of)
 --u-- NE       Niger (Republic of the)
 ---f- NG       Nigeria (Federal Republic of)
 --u-- NU       Niue
 ----- NF       Norfolk Island
 ----- MP       Northern Mariana Islands (Commonwealth of the)
 BIUFO NO       Norway (Kingdom of)
 ----- OM       Oman (Sultanate of)
 --U-- PK       Pakistan (Islamic Republic of)
 ----- PW       Palau (Republic of)
 b-uF- PA       Panama (Republic of)
 --u-- PG       Papua New Guinea
 --u-- PY       Paraguay (Republic of)
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Northern Ireland)
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General news.

Max, is this FidoNet worthy? It's a shit stirrer at least. And points
out the need for more damned comm. to Mexico! Why isn't there more!
(partly rhetorical, I am dimly aware of the power/phone situation in
rural Mexico).

My fear is that any Mexican BBSs would be owned by well off/propertied
types, and might not be very supportive of the Chiapa rebellion. 


Forwarded message:
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 94 15:45:34 EST
From: dmandl@lehman.com (David Mandl)
To: tomj@wps.com
Subject: Zapatismo
Reply-To: dmandl@panix.com

Oh, yeah...Peter [Lamborn Wilson] asked me to send you a copy of this.
(You may have already seen it by now.)

   --D.

-----------------------------------------------------------------

ZAPATISMO
---------
1. The Zapatista uprising in Chiapas has suddenly taken on a certain
importance.  Despite its small scale it has not yet been crushed,
apparently because the PRI fears public outrage.  Moreover,
municipalities in various places in Mexico have been taken over by
various groups in sympathy with the Zapatistas.  This news has been
blacked out of U.S. media, doubtless for reasons connected with NAFTA.
If the PRI begins to totter, U.S. involvement becomes probable.

2. A reading of Zapatista communiques and manifestos (as translated
by the RESIST! group in California) reveals a program completely in
keeping with the principles of E. Zapata himself--modified for
contemporary relevance but basically anarcho-agrarian--"Tierra y
Libertad."  As anarchists we should remember that Zapata's goals were
supported by the Flores Magon brothers, who worked behind the front
organization of the "Mexican Liberal Party," but were in fact out-&-
out revolutionary anarchists. In 1911, European and N. American
anarchists ranging from individualists to wobblies participated in the
short-lived Republic of Tiajuana.  The revolt in Chiapas which began
last New Year's Eve would appear to be the first non-authoritarian
movement with real revolutionary potential since Paris '68 or Italy in
the early '70s.  We should not let marxist-leninist groups in the U.S.
"monopolize" the Zapatistas.  We should demonstrate our support, and
we should make it clear that we offer this support _as anarchists_.

3. Moreover, it seems possible for ALL tendencies within the anarchist
movement to join in offering this support.  Anarcho-communists,
anarcho-syndicalists, wobblies, and others with historical reasons to
welcome a rebirth of Zapatismo, will need no convincing.  As for the
individualists, post-Situ's, "Type 3's," etc., we should consider that
the Chiapas uprising is a courageous adventure in the spirit of human
freedom.  The Zapatistas themselves have evoked the romanticism of
revolt by choosing their name.  "Romanticism" is a value despised only
by those too cynical or too tired to remember that--from an
"existential" p.o.v.--revolt is an end in itself.

4. It's important to note that Chiapas seems to be the first real
"post-1989" radical uprising.  The involvement of the USSR helped
change the Sandinista movement (also named after an anarchist) into an
authoritarian government.  But this time there is no USSR to get
involved.  Zapatista documents make no reference to marxist-leninist
forms of organization.  (The NY Times even went so far as to call the
Zapatistas "post-modern"!)  For the first time since 1916 we don't
have to watch our backs or protect our flank against leninism--or
stalinism.  Anarchism is _free to act_.

5. Some anarchists may dislike the involvement of "Liberation
Theology" in the Zapatista movement.  But since 1989 the meaning of
Liberation Theology has also changed or shifted.  The Vatican, which
tacitly encouraged Lib. Theol. as a wedge into marxism in Latin
America, now no longer needs it and has virtually reduced it to the
status of a near-heresy.  In theory, Lib. Theol. must by now be purged
of its "jesuit" wing and its "marxist" wing, leaving only the sincere
radicals.  The religious situation in Chiapas is very complex,
involving Mayan/Christian syncretistic cults, and other churches
beside the Roman Catholics.  As yet the presence of organized
religions in Chiapas seems to offer no real obstacle to anarchist
enthusiasm for Zapatismo.

6. The Stirnerite anarchist Ret Marut adopted the "existential"
position (see para. 3 above) when he joined the Bavarian Soviet of
1919 with Gustav Landauer and other anarchists.  Escaping a death
sentence in Munich, Marut fled to Mexico and changed his name to B.
Traven.  In the early '20s he lived for a while in Chiapas and wrote a
book about it (unfortunately never translated).  Traven went on to
write the best of all anarchist adventure novels--_The Deathship_, _The
Wobbly_, _Treasure of the Sierra Madre_, and above all his _Mahogony_
series, set in Chipas during the Mexican Revolution.  When Traven died
he was buried in San Cristobal--where the Zapatista revolt broke out
last New Year's Eve.  Traven is someone we might remember, not only
because he was a "gringo" who loved Chiapas and supported the
Revolution, but also because he transcended all limited "ideological"
anarchist tendencies to embrace a grand vision of human tragedy,
endurance, and freedom.

7. As of this writing the Zapatistas have called on radicals outside
Mexico for support but have not yet specified what form they'd like it
to take.  Obviously, in light of the media black-out, _spreading the
word_ has top priority.  Sending medicine and supplies, etc., may soon
become both necessary and possible.  Given the very great chance of
U.S. involvement to protect the PRI and NAFTA, we should begin the
organization of domestic resistance networkds _now_, so as not to be
caught napping again.  The anarchist press should remain closely
informed, and should provide background as well as news (one of our
numbers is in Mexico now, looking for real info).  The authors of this
letter are prepared to join with any responsible non-authoritarian
support group which might emerge.  If you are organizing or would like
to help organize on behalf of Zapatismo, or if you have information
for broadcast, please contact us.

                                       Tierra y Libertad!

                                       Feb. 14, 1994
                                       Moorish Orthodox Radio Crusade
                                       Box 113
                                       WBAI-Pacifica
                                       505 Eighth Ave.
                                       NYC, NY 10018
                                       (email: dmandl@panix.com)

                                       Please distribute widely.




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Subject: AP-CA--Shilts Memorial (TOPS)

This section is from the document '/AP/AP'.

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                                                 -------------------
                                                 ! California News !
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Religious Extremists Chased From Memorial Service For Gay
Journalist
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	   News Directors: Note language
	   
	   (San Francisco) -- More than one thousand mourners gathered
today in San Francisco to honor pioneering gay journalist Randy
Shilts and to counter picketing threatened by the head of a
fundamentalist Kansas church.
	   Shilts, a reporter for the San Francisco Chronicle who began
covering the scourge of AIDS before it had a name, died last
Wednesday of the disease he wrote about in news stories and in
books.
	   As ranks of riot-clad police stood guard in the streets around
Glide Memorial Church, a throng milled outside. Many carried signs
opposing the Reverand Fred Phelps, minister of the Westboro Baptist
Church and Library in Topeka.
	   About a dozen Phelps supporters arrived about 20 minutes after
the service started, carrying signs bearing such slogans as
``Shilts in Hell,'' and ``Fags burn in hell.''
	   They were greeted with a deafening chorus of boos and a volley
of eggs and fruit and quickly fled in vans parked nearby, with a
police escort.
	   
AP-NY-02-22-94 1645EST


 




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Subject: licenceing virtual reality?
From: Sylvia Maxwell <max@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca>
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Organization: Fidonews, editors

saw this on a Fidonet Echo and was amazed.  
Is this for real?
legislating immaginations!?

=======================================================
Area Newschat, Msg#292, Feb-21-94 10:18:00
   From: Kenneth Dawe                         
     To: All                                  
Subject: WA State gov'tal madness

Any Washingtonians out there, you'd better check your state's
congresscritters, ASAP! The bill in question is # 7164, the Public
Health & Safety Act of 1994, sponsered by Senator Phil Talmadge.
Excerpts follow:

       Section 706: (1) A license is required for the comercial use of
       virtual reality technology for entertainment or purposes other
       than bona fide education, training, research, and development.

       Section 702: (4) "Virtual Reality" means any computer or other
       electronic technology that creates an enhanced illusion of
       three-dimensional, real-time or near-real-time interactive
       realirt through the use of software, specialized hardware,
       holograms, gloves, masks, glasses, computer guns, or other item
       capable of producing visual, audio, and sensory effects of
       verismilitude beyond those available with a personal computer.

Senator Talmadge sez "VR will permit 'a realistic illusion of killing
another person and such an illusion will make it easier for someone to
go out and actually commit a crime outside of VR.'" (Quoting my source
quoting Talmadge. Said source telephones Talmadge's office on the bill,
talked to an aid. Further quotes:)

"It isn't just media and entertainment. I specifically compared VR
censorship to being as offensive as banning sales of murder mysteries at
B. Dalton's. Response: Sale of violent novels wil also be covered in
this bill. I went on to ask about limiting bullet sales for hunting
purposes. This is also specifically addressed in the bill."

". . . I asked the official at Talmadge's office about this. {What
constitutes VR?} From his point of view, anything with a CPU in it is
fair game. Nintendo, 3DO, and Sega sounded like prime candidates for
this bill's targets. . ."

Collect your copies of Castle Wolfenstein, especially 3D, there may be
an underground market in them!

Now, is this a suggestion of things to come? When Billary get _their_
Health Care plan rolling, will it look like this? Will we be limited, as
my source suggests, to nothing "more violent than Rainbow Bright
cartoon(s), or reading anything more violent than Joy of Cooking, or
doing anything more violent than meditation. (knitting is out because
you might stab someone with the needles.)"


... Those who give up liberty for security, deserve neither. B Franklin
--- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR]
 * Origin: Murphy's Laws BBS, Where things go rong!!!  (1:128/175)
SEEN-BY: 12/12 221/100 192 300 1000 1100
PATH: 128/175 68 84 1 209/209 270/101 12/12 221/100
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From: rgates@locust.cic.net (Rick Gates)
Subject: March Hunt Questions
Date: 7 Mar 1994 09:12:40 GMT

*****************************************************************
*                                                               *
*                     THE INTERNET HUNT                         *
*                                                               *
*                 QUESTIONS FOR MARCH, 1994                     *
*                                                               *
*      (answers due by Midnight, March 13, (GMT -0700)          *
*                                                               *
*                    Maximum Points: 40                         *
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Sorry, but this is an hour and a half late (if you consider Mountain
Time and all that).  Some system down time (both mine and the host's)
slowed me up a bit.  Would have been even later except that I'm now
beginning to receive some...


HELP FOR THE HUNT
==================

A group of stalwart individuals have decided to forgo the joys of Hunt
competition and instead help come up with the questions that torture
you all so well.  They are a fine and diverse group of people, and
they will help evolve the Hunt into whatever form it takes in the
future.  

We're just starting to gel, so you can expect to hear more from them
as the ball gets rolling (though a few of their questions are below).
I'm very glad to have their help, and I salute them all!


So, here is the usual boilerplate...

THE RULES
---------

1. There are a total of 11 questions.  These all count toward your
score.  I have personally verified that each of these can be answered
using only the resources of the Net.  These are contrived questions.

2. There is no mystery question this time.

3. Each of these first 11 questions carries a value in parentheses.
This point value is my best guess on how tough that question is to
answer.  The scale is 1 (easy), to 10 (hard).  Total points for all
questions is listed after the last question.

4. Answer as many questions as you can.  Partial credit is awarded.

5. Teams are allowed to submit entries.  These must be designated as
such.  Pick a team name.  Team entries will be scored separately from
individual entries.

6. All answers must be mailed to me.  My standard signature will
be at the bottom of this message.

7. The contest will run for one week from the date of posting of this
message.  The deadline should appear in the header at the top of this
message.

8. Feel free to send me potential question for the Hunt, be they
scored, or mystery.

9. I consider this and all Hunt files to be in the public domain.

10. Have fun!  What's it all for, after all?


SCORING 
-------

1. Whoever correctly answers all the questions first shall be declared
the winner.

2. In the event that nobody answers all the questions, the player
with the highest point total shall be declared the winner.

3. If there is a tie for highest point total, the player who
responded first shall be declared the winner.

4. Assume you're answering the question for someone who understands
the basic network tools (ftp, telnet, finger, gopher, etc.), but just
doesn't know where the data is.  Answers like:

        ftp host.university.edu

...will not score as high as:

        anonymous ftp to host.university.edu
        cd /pub/documents
        file is called important.txt.Z

Don't feel that you have to detail how to use ftp.  Instead, tell me
the steps you've taken to find your answers, what tool you used to find
it, and if necessary, the end information itself.  I need to be able
to recreate the steps you took.

5. It's always a good idea to let us know how you decided where to
begin looking.  After all, we can't have everyone thinking that you're
all geniuses with innate Net-knowledge!  :-)

6. Read the question carefully.  If it's asking for specific
information (like "What is the chorus to Jingle Bells?"), then supply
that info in your answer.  Sometimes you may find a pointer to a
source that no longer exists.  Providing the end information tells me
that you actually checked the source out.

PRIZES
======

The following individuals have kindly offered to reward the Hunt
Winners for their hard work.  Many thanks to them!
 
Ivan Pope
---------
One Year Subscription to:
"3W: World Wide Web Newsletter"
(for more info: contact 3W@ukartnet.demon.co.uk)

Daniel Dern
-----------
A signed copy of:
"The Internet Guide for New Users" McGraw-Hill, 1993 609 pgs.
(for more info: Gopher (enews.com) path=1/specialmcgraw-hill/dern
 
Cliff Stoll
-----------
Signed copies of: 
"The Cuckoo's Egg" Pocket Books, 1989, 356 pgs.
 
Michael Strangelove
-------------------
One year subscription to: 
"The Internet Business Journal"
(for more info: contact Mstrange@Fonorola.Net) 


...and on with...


THE HUNT
========

1. (5) I own a company that exports mining machinery and I'd like to
know if Chile would be a good investment.  Could you get me figures
that tell me if U.S. trade with Chile is increasing or decreasing, and
by what percent.  Also, a list of their principle imports would be
nice.
(Question from Alan Shapiro)

2. (6) I really LOVE Lampchop, who I on saw on U.S. televised talk
show a few months ago.  Lambchop was talking about a new book of
children's fables... Could you tell me what show that was and when it
aired?  I'd also like to order a transcript... Can you tell me how
much it costs, and what my delivery options are?  Finally, who is
Lampchop's human?
(Question from Carol and Neil Enns)

3. (4) Who was appointed the Head of the United Nations' International
Tribunal for the Prosecution of Persons Responsible for Serious
Violations of International Humanitarian Law Committed in the
Territory of the Former Yugoslavia since 1991

4. (4) Hi!  I live in Yreka, California, U.S.A.  Who is my California
state senator?

5. (3) Oh No!  My wife's birthday is in 3 days and I'm on the road.
How much will it cost me to send her a dozen red roses via the
Internet?

6. (6) Of Apple and Microsoft, which company spent a higher percentage
of its operation expenses on research and development during the 4th
quarter of 1993?

7. (3) All last winter's snow has melted, and I fear we may be asked
to leave our home till the waters subside.  What does the Emergency
Preparedness Information Exchange suggest we do with our domestic
water system before we go?

8. (2) What is the other profession of Wellington, New Zealand city
council member Sarah Lysaght?

9. (2) What ar the top 10 U.S. television programs according to the
most recent Nielsen ratings?
(Question from Anthony Stevens)

10. (4) How is beer made?

Extra Credit (1) What channel does the HomeWrecker virus leave the TV
tuned to?

------------------------------------------------------
Rick Gates                       rgates@locust.cic.net
Student & Lecturer
Univ. of Arizona                 (602) 621-3958
1515 E. 1st St.
Tucson, AZ  85719




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(from the San Francisco Chronicle)

 	MINISTER, STUDENTS DROWN TRYING TO WALK ON WATER

Dar es Salaam, Tanzania

  A group of Tanzanian students and a minister who tried to walk on water 
have drowned in Lake Victoria Polices said yesterday.

  The members of the Seventh-day Adventist church were traveling in a 
flotilla of canoes to a religious festival when they decided to make the 
walk on water.

  "They decided to test their faith by walking on water like Jesus, but 
they all drowned," a police spokesman said.

"Other participants in the pilgrimage looked on helplessly from the shore 
as the victims drowned. Police are questioning four ministers who 
arranged the pilgrimage, buy they said parents and reletives of the dead 
will not press charges.



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  My attorney was in the bathtub when I returned. Submerged in green 
water-the oily product of some Japanese bath salts he'd picked yp in the 
hotel gift shop, along with a new am/fm radio plugged into the electric 
razor socket. Top Volume. some gibberish by a thing called "Three Dog 
Night," about a frog named Jerimiah who wanted "Joy to the World."

  First Lennon, now this, I thought. Next we'll have Glenn Cambell 
screaming "Where Have All the Flowers Gone?"

 Where indeed? No flowers in this town. Only carnivorous plants. I turned 
the volume down and noticed a hunk of chewed-up white paper beside the 
radio. My attorney seemed not to notice the sound-change. He was lost in 
a fog of green steam; only half his head was visible above the water line.

  "You ate this?" I asked, holding up the white pad.

  He ignored me. But I knew. He would be very difficult to reach for the 
next six hours. The whole blotter was chewed up.

  "You evil son of a bitch," I said," You better hope there's some 
thorozine in that bag, because if thre's not you're in bad trouble tomorrow."

  "Music!" he snarled. "Turn it up. Put that tape on."

  "What tape?"

  "The new one. It's right there."

  I picked up the radio and noticed that it was also a tape recorder -one 
of those things with a cassette-unit built in. And the tape, Surrealistic 
Pillow, needed only to be flipped over. He had already gone through side 
one-at a volume that must have been audible in every room within a radius 
of one hundred yards, walls and all.

  "'White Rabit,'" he said. I want rising sound."

  "You're doomed," I said. "I'm leaving here in two hours-and then 
they're going to come up here abd beat the mortal shit out of you with 
big saps. Right here in the tub.
  
  "I dig my own graves," he said. "Green water and the white rabbit...put 
it on; don't make me use this." His arm lashed out of the water, the 
hunting knife gripped in his fist.

  "Jesus," I muttered. And at that point I figured he was beond 
help-lying there in the tub with a head full of acid and the sharpest 
knife I've ever seen, totally incapable of reason, demanding the White 
Rabbit. This is it, I thought. I've gone as far as I can wqith this 
waterhead. This time it's a suicide trip. This time he wants it. He's 
ready...

  "Ok," I said, turning the tape over and pushing the "play" button. "But 
do me one last favor, will you? Can you give me two hours? That's all I 
ask-just two hours to sleep before tomorrow. I suspect it's going to be a 
difficult day."

  "Of coarse," he said. "I'm your attorney. I'll give you all the time 
you need, at my normal rates: $45 an hour-but you'll be wanting a 
cushion, so why don't you lay one of those $100 bills down there by the 
radio, and fuck off?"

  "How about a check?" I said "On the Sawtooth National Bank. You won't 
need any ID to cash it there. They know me."

  "Whatever's right," he said, begining to jerk with the music. The 
bathroom was like the inside of a huge defective woofer. Heinous 
vibrations, overwhelming sound. The floor was full of water. I moved the 
radio as far from the tub as it would go, then I left and closed the door 
behind me.

  Within seconds he was shouting at me "Help! You bastard! I need help!"

  I rushed back inside, thinking he'd sliced off an ear by accident.

  But no...He was reaching across the bathroom toward the white 
formica shelf where the radio sat. "I want that fuckin radio," he snarled.

  I grabbed it away from his hand."You fool!" I said. Get back in that 
tub! Get away from that godamn radio! I shoved it back from his hand. The 
volume was so far up that it was hard to know what was playing unless you 
knew Surrealistic Pillow note for note...which I did, at the time, so I 
knew that "White Rabbit" had finished; the peak had come and gone.

  But my attorney, it seemed, had not made it. He wanted more. "Back the 
tape up!" he yellaed. "I need it again!" His eyes were full of craziness 
now, unable to focus. He seemed on the verge of some awful psychic orgasm...

  "Let it roll!" he screamed. "Just as high as the fucker can go! And 
when it comes to that fantastic note where the rabbit bites his own head 
off, I want you to throw that fuckin radio in the tub with me."

  I stared at him, keeping a firm grip on the radio. "Not me," I said 
finally. "I'd be happy to ram a goddamn 440-volt cattle prod into that 
tub with you right now, but not this radio. It would blast you right 
through the wall. stone dead in ten seconds." I laughed. Shit, they'd 
make me explain it- drag me down to some rotten coroner's inquest 
about....yes...the exact details. I don't need that."

  Bullshit!" He screamed "Just tell them I wanted to get higher."


  I thought for a moment. "Okay," I said finally. "You're right. This is 
probably the only solution." I picked up the tape/radio- which was still 
plugged in- and held it over the tub. "Just let me make sure I have it 
all lined up," I said. "You want me to throw this thing into the tub when 
'White Rabbit' peaks-is that it?"

  He fell back in the water and smiled gratefully. "Fuck yes," He said "I 
was beginning to think I was going to have to go out and get one of the 
goddamn maids to do it."

  "Don't worry," I said. "Are you ready?" I hit the "play" button and 
"White Rabbit" started building again. Almost immediately he began to 
howl and moan...another fast run up that mountain, and thinking, this 
time, that he would finally get over the top. His eyes were gripped shut 
and only his head and both kneecaps poked up through the oily green water.

  I let the song build while I sorted through a pile of fat ripe 
grapefruit next to the basin. The biggest one of the lot weighed almost 
two pounds. I got a good Vida Blue fastball grip on the fucker- and just 
as "White Rabbit" peaked I lashed it into the tub like a cannonball.

  My attorney screamed crazily, thrashing around in the tub like a shark 
after meat, churning water all over the floor as he struggled to get 
ahold of something.

  I jerked the AC cord out of the tape/radio and moved out of the 
bathroom very quickly...the machine kept on playing, but now it was on 
it's own harmless battery power. I could hear the beat cooling down as I 
moved across the room to my kitbag and fetched up the Mace can...just as 
my attorney ripped the bathroom door open and started out. His eyes were 
still unfocused, but he was waving the balde in front of him like a man 
who ment to cut something.

  "Mace! I shouted. You want this?" I waved the Mace bomb in front of his 
watery eyes.

  He stopped, "You bastard!" he hissed. "Youd do that, wouldn't you?"

  I laughed, still waving the bomb at him. "Why worry? You'll like it. 
Shit, there's nothing in the world like a mace high- fourty-five minutes 
on your knees with the dry heaves gasping for breath. It'll calm you 
right down. 

  He stared in my general direction, trying to focus. "You cheap honky 
sonofabitch," he muttered. "You'd do it, wouldn't you?"

  "Why not? I said. "Hell, just a minute ago you were asking me to kill 
you! And now you want to kill me! What I should do, goddammit, is call 
the police.

  He sagged. "The cops?"

  I nodded. Yeah, there's no choice. I wouldn't dare go to sleep with you 
wandering around in this condition- with a head full of acid and wanting 
to slice me up with that goddamn knife."

  He rolled his eyes for a moment, then tried to smile. "Who said 
anything about slicing you up?" he mumbled. "I just wanted to carve a 
little Z on your forehead- nothing serious." He shrugged and reached for 
a cigarette on top of the TV set.



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1. Cannabis and hemp are the same. "Marijuana" was the Mexican name 
   given to Cannabis.

2. Cannabis was first cultivated in China around 4000 B.C.

3. The original drafts of the Declaration of Independence were written on 
   hemp paper

4. One acre of hemp will produce as much paper as four acres of trees.

5. Hemp is a source of fiber for cloth and cordage for rope.The hemp 
   fiber is located inside the long stem of the plant.

6. George Washington and Thomas Jefferson grew hemp. Washington, our 
   first president, declared "make the most of the hemp seed. Sow it 
   everywhere."

7. Hemp seed is nature's perfect food. The oil from the seeds has the 
   highest percentage of essential fatty acids and the lowest percentage of 
   saturated fats.

8. Serilized hemp seed is commonly sold as bird seed.

9. Rolling papers, like Bambu, are made from hemp paper.

10. In 1937, the Marijuana Tax Stamp Act prohinited the use, sale, and 
    cultivation of hemp/marijuana in the United States.

11. Five years later, during World War II, the U.S Department of 
    Agriculture released the film "Hemp For Victory," which encouraged 
    American farmers to grow hemp for the war effort. (Ironic that the 
    parachute the former president George Bush used to bail out of his shot 
    down plane during the war, was made from hemp.)

12. Hemp is cultivated all over the world. Today, China, Korea, Italy, 
    Hungary, Russia, and France are among the countries that grow hemp for 
    fiber, paper and other products.

13. Cannabis is classified as a schedule 1 drug (a dangerous drug with no 
    medical value). Designated as a narcotic, it cannot be prescribed by 
    physicians to patients.

14. In 1988, the DEA's own administrative law judge concluded that 
    "marijuana is one of the safest, thrapeutically active substances 
    known to man."

15. Cannabis can be used as a medicine to treat nasea, pain and muscle 
    spasms. It alleviates symptoms of glaucoma, multiple sclerosis, AIDS, 
    migrains and other debilitating ailments.

16. Thirty-five states have passed legislation permitting medical use of 
    marijuana.

17. Twelve Americans receive prescribed marijuana from the U.S. government.

18. More than 400,000 Americans are arested each year on Marijuana charges.

19. More than 400,000 Americans die from diseases related to cigarette 
    smoking each year. More than 1500,000 Americans die of alcohol abuse 
    each year, But in 10,000 years of usage, no one has ever died from 
    marijuana.

				source- D.J Muggs. Cypress Hill.

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Computer underground Digest    Sun  Mar 13, 1994   Volume 6 : Issue 24
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CONTENTS, #6.24 (Mar 13, 1994)
File 1--Clipping the Wings of Freedom (Reprint, by J.P. Barlow)
File 2--Leahy to hold hearings on Clipper Chip!
File 3--Survey: communication ethics on the net
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Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 11:30:17 -0500
From: John Perry Barlow <barlow@EFF.ORG>
Subject: File 1--Clipping the Wings of Freedom (Reprint, by J.P. Barlow)

                Clipping the Wings of Freedom           page 1

Jackboots on the Infobahn
by John Perry Barlow
<barlow@eff.org>

[Note: I wish to reserve to Wired Magazine first paper publication of
the following piece. However, given the fairly immediate nature of
this issue, I am net-casting it now. Feel free to pass it on
electronically as you see fit, but please do not turn it into any sort
of hard copy until Wired has done so. I also encourage you to buy the
April issue of Wired in which it will appear.]


On January 11, I managed to schmooze myself aboard Air Force 2. It was
flying out of LA, where its principal passenger had just outlined his
vision of the Information Superhighway to a suited mob of television,
show biz, and cable types who fervently hoped to own it one day...if
they could ever figure out what the hell it was.

>From the standpoint of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, the speech
had been wildly encouraging. The Vice President's announced program
incorporated many of the concepts of open competition, universal
access, and deregulated common carriage which we'd been pushing for
the previous year.

But he had said nothing about future of privacy, except to cite among
the bounties of the NII its ability to "help law enforcement agencies
thwart criminals and terrorists who might use advanced
telecommunications to commit crimes."

On the plane I asked him what this had meant regarding Administration
policy on cryptography. He became non-committal as a cigar store
indian.  "We'll be making some announcements... I can't tell you
anything more." He hurried back to the front of the plane, leaving me
to troubled speculation.


Despite its fundamental role in assuring privacy, transaction
security, and reliable identity within the NII, the Clinton/Gore
Administration policies regarding cryptography have not demonstrated
an enlightenment to match the rest of their digital visions.

The Clipper Chip...which bodes to be either the goofiest waste of
federal dollars since Gerald Ford's great Swine Flu program or, if
actually deployed, a surveillance technology of profound
malignancy...seemed at first an ugly legacy of Reagan/Bush. "This is
going to be our Bay of Pigs," one White House official told me at the
time Clipper was introduced, referring to the distastrous Cuban
invasion plan Kennedy inherited from Eisenhower.

(Clipper, in case you're just tuning in, is an encryption chip which
the NSA and FBI hope will someday be in every phone and computer in
America. It scrambles your communications, making them unintelligible
to all but their intended recipient. All, that is, but the government,
which would hold the "key" to your chip. The key would separated into
two pieces, held in escrow, and joined with the appropriate "legal
authority.")

Of course, trusting the government with your privacy is trusting a
peeping tom to install your window blinds. And, since the folks I've
met in this White House seem extremely smart, conscious, and
freedom-loving...hell, a lot of them are Deadheads...I was sure that
after they felt fully moved in, they'd face down the NSA and FBI, let
Clipper die a natural death, and lower the export embargo on reliable
encryption products.

Furthermore, NIST and the National Security Council have been studying
both Clipper and export embargoes since April. Given that the volumes
of expert testimony they collected opposed them both almost
unanimously , I expected the final report to give the Administration
all the support it needed to do the right thing.

I was wrong about this. Instead, there would be no report. Apparently,
they couldn't draft one which supported, on the evidence, what they
had decided to do instead.


THE OTHER SHOE DROPS

On Friday, February 4, the other jack-boot dropped. A series of
announcements from the Administration made it clear that cryptography
would become their very own "Bosnia of telecommunications" (as one
staffer put it). It wasn't just that the old Serbs in the NSA and the
FBI were still making the calls. The alarming new reality was that the
invertebrates in the White House were only too happy to abide by them.
Anything to avoid appearing soft on drugs or terrorism.

So, rather than ditching Clipper, they declared it a Federal Data
Processing Standard, backing that up with an immediate government
order for 50,000 Clipper devices. They appointed NIST and the
Department of Treasury as the "trusted" third parties that would hold
the Clipper key pairs.  (Treasury, by the way, is also home to such
trustworthy agencies as the Secret Service and the Bureau of Alcohol,
Tobacco, and Firearms.)

They re-affirmed the export embargo on robust encryption products,
admitting for the first time that its purpose was to stifle
competition to Clipper. And they outlined a very porous set of
requirements under which the cops might get the keys to your chip.
(They would not go into the procedure by which the NSA would get them,
though they assured us it was sufficient.)

They even signaled the impending return of the dread Digital
Telephony, an FBI legislative initiative which would require
fundamentally re-engineering the information infrastructure to make
provision of wiretapping ability the paramount design priority.


INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS

Actually, by the time the announcements thudded down, I wan't
surprised by them. I had spent several days the previous week in and
around the White House.

I felt like I was in another re-make of The Invasion of the Body
Snatchers.  My friends in the Administration had been transformed.
They'd been subsumed by the vast mind-field on the other side of the
security clearance membrane, where dwell the monstrous bureaucratic
organisms which feed themselves on fear. They'd adopted the
institutionally paranoid National Security Weltanschauung.

They used all the tell-tale phrases. Mike Nelson, the White House
point man on NII, told me, "If only I could tell you what I know,
you'd feel the same way I do." I told him I'd been inoculated against
that argument during Vietnam. (And it does seem to me that if you're
going to initiate a process which might end freedom in America, you
probably need an argument that isn't classified.)

Besides, how does he know what he knows? Where does he get his
information?  Why the NSA, of course. Which, given its strong interest
in the outcome, seems hardly an unimpeachable source.

However they reached it, Clinton and Gore have an astonishingly simple
bottom line, against which even the future of American liberty and
prosperity is secondary: They believe that it is their responsibility
to eliminate, by whatever means, the possibility that some terrorist
might get a nuke and use it on, say, the World Trade Center. They have
been convinced that such plots are more likely to ripen to their
hideous fruition behind a shield of encryption.

The staffers I talked to were unmoved by the argument that anyone
smart enough to steal and detonate a nuclear device is probably smart
enough to use PGP or some other uncompromised crypto standard. And
never mind that the last people who popped a hooter in the World Trade
Center were able to put it there without using any cryptography and
while under FBI surveillance.

We are dealing with religion here. Though only 10 American lives were
lost to terrorism in the last two years, the primacy of this threat
has become as much an article of faith with these guys as the Catholic
conviction that
human life begins at conception or the Mormon belief that the Lost
Tribe of Israel crossed the Atlantic in submarines.

In the spirit of openness and compromise, they invited EFF to submit
other solutions to the "problem" of the nuclear-enabled terrorist
besides key escrow devices, but they would not admit into discussion
the argument that such a threat might, in fact, be some kind of
phantasm created by the spooks to ensure their lavish budgets into the
Post-Cold War era.

As to the possibility that good old-fashioned investigative techniques
might be more valuable in preventing their show-case catastrophe (as
it was after the fact in finding the alleged perpetrators of the last
attack on the World Trade Center),they just hunkered down and said
that when wire-taps were necessary, they were damned well necessary.

When I asked about the business that American companies lose to their
inability to export good encryption products, one staffer essentially
dismissed the market, saying that total world trade in crypto goods
was still less than a billion dollars. (Well, right. Thanks more to
the diligent efforts of the  NSA than lack of sales potential.)

I suggested that a more immediate and costly real-world effect of
their policies would be reducing national security by isolating
American commerce, owing to a lack of international confidence in the
security of our data lines. I said that Bruce Sterling's fictional
data-enclaves in places like the Turks and Caicos Islands were
starting to look real world inevitable.

They had a couple of answers to this, one unsatisfying and the other
scary.  Their first answer was that the international banking
community could just go on using DES, which still seemed robust enough
to them. [DES is the old federal Data Encryption Standard, thought by
most cryptologists to be nearing the end of its credibility.]

More troubling was their willingness to counter the data-enclave
future with one in which no data channels anywhere would be secure
from examination by some government or another. They pointed to
unnamed other countries which were developing their own mandatory
standards and restrictions regarding cryptography and have said to me
on several occasions words to the effect that, "Hey, it's not like you
can't outlaw the stuff. Look at France."

Of course, they have also said repeatedly...and for now I believe
them...that they have absolutely no plans to outlaw non-Clipper crypto
in the U.S. But that doesn't mean that such plans couldn't develop in
the presence of some pending "emergency." Then there is that White
House briefing document, issued at the time Clipper was first
announced, which asserts that no U.S. citizen "as a matter of right,
is entitled to an unbreakable commercial encryption product."

Now why, if it's an ability they have no intention of contesting, do
they feel compelled to declare that it's not a right? Could it be that
they are preparing us for the laws they'll pass after some bearded
fanatic has gotten himself a surplus nuke and used something besides
Clipper to conceal his plans for it?

If they are thinking about such an eventuality, we should be doing so
as well. How will we respond? I believe there is a strong, though
currently untested, argument that outlawing unregulated crypto would
violate the First Amendment, which surely protects the manner of our
speech as clearly as it protects the content.

But of course the First Amendment is, like the rest of the
Constitution, only as good as the government's willingness of the to
uphold it. And they are, as I say, in a mood to protect our safety
over our liberty.

This is not a mind-frame against which any argument is going to be
very effective. And it appeared that they had already heard and
rejected every argument I could possibly offer.

In fact, when I drew what I thought was an original comparison between
their stand against naturally proliferating crypto and the folly of
King Canute (who placed his throne on the beach and commanded the tide
to leave him dry), my opposition looked pained and said he had heard
that one almost as often as jokes about road-kill on the Information
Superhighway.

I hate to go to war with them. War is always nastier among friends.
Furthermore, unless they've decided to let the NSA design the rest of
the National Information Infrastructure as well, we need to go on
working closely with them on the whole range of issues like access,
competition, workplace privacy, common carriage, intellectual
property, and such.  Besides, the proliferation of strong crypto will
probably happen eventually no matter what they do.

But then again, it might not. In which case we could shortly find
ourselves under a government that would have the automated ability to
log the time, origin and recipient of everycall we made, could track
our physical whereabouts continuously, could keep better account of
our financial transactions than we do, and all without a warrant. Talk
about crime prevention!

Worse, under some vaguely defined and surely mutable "legal
authority," they also would be able to listen to our calls and read
our e-mail without having to do any backyard rewiring. (And wouldn't
even need that to monitor our overseas calls.)

If there's going to be a fight, I'd far rather it be with this
government than the one we'd likely face on that hard day.

Hey, I've never been a paranoid before. It's always seemed to me that
most governments are too incompetent to keep a good plot strung
together all the way from coffee break to quitting time. But I am now
very nervous about the government of the United States of America.

Because Bill 'n' Al, whatever their other new paradigm virtues, have
allowed the very old paradigm trogs of the Guardian Class to the
define as their highest duty the defense of America against an enemy
that exists primarily in the imagination and is therefore capable of
anything.

To assure absolute safety against such an enemy, there is no limit to
the liberties we will eventually be asked to sacrifice. And, with a
Clipper chip in every phone, there will certainly be no technical
limit on their ability to enforce those sacrifices.


WHAT YOU CAN DO

GET CONGRESS TO LIFT THE CRYPTO EMBARGO

The Administration is trying to impose Clipper on us by manipulating
market forces. Purchasing massive numbers of Clipper devices, they
intend to produce an economy of scale which will make them cheap while
their export embargo renders all competition either expensive or
non-existent.

We have to use the market to fight back. While it's unlikely that
they'll back down on Clipper deployment, the Electronic Frontier
Foundation believes that with sufficient public involvement, we can
get Congress to eliminate the export embargo.

Rep. Maria Cantwell (D-WA) has a bill (H.R. 3627) before the Economic
Policy, Trade, and Environment Science Subcommittee of the House
Foreign Affairs Committee which would do exactly that. She will need a
lot of help from the public. They may not care much about your privacy
in DC, but they still care about your vote.

Please signal your support of H.R. 3627, either by writing her
directly or e-mailing her at cantwell@eff.org. Messages sent to that
address will be printed out and delivered to her office. In the
Subject header of your message, please include the words "support HR
3627." In the body of your message, express your reasons for
supporting the bill. You may also express your sentiments to Rep. Lee
Hamilton, the Foreign Relations Committee chairman, by e-mailing
hamilton@eff.org.

Furthermore, since there is nothing quite as powerful as a letter from
a constituent, you should check the following list of subcommittee and
committee members to see if your congressperson is among them. If so,
please copy them your letter to Ms. Cantwell.

Economic Policy, Trade, and Environment Science Subcommittee:
Democrats: Sam Gejdenson (Chairman), James Oberstar, Cynthia McKinney,
Maria Cantwell, Eric Fingerhut, Albert R. Wynn, Harry Johnston, Eliot
Engel, Charles Schumer. Republicans: Toby Roth (ranking), Donald
Manzullo, Doug Bereuter, Jan Meyers, Cass Ballenger, Dana Rohrabacher.

Foreign Affairs Committee:
Democrats: Lee Hamilton (Chairman), Tom Lantos, Robert Torricelli,
Howard Berman, Gary Ackerman, Eni Faleomavaega, Matthew Martinez,
Robert Borski, Donal Payne, Robert Andrews, Robert Menendez, Sherrod
Brown, Alcee Hastings, Peter Deutsch, Don Edwards, Frank McCloskey,
Thomas Sawyer, Luis Gutierrez. Republicans: Benjamin Gilman (ranking),
William Goodling, Jim Leach, Olympia Snowe, Henry Hyde, Christopher
Smith, Dan Burton, Elton Gallegly, Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, David Levy,
Lincoln Diaz-Balart, Ed Royce.


BOYCOTT CLIPPER DEVICES AND THE COMPANIES WHICH MAKE THEM.

Don't buy anything with a Clipper chip in it. Don't buy any product
from a company which manufactures devices with "Big Brother Inside."
It is likely that the government will ask you to use Clipper for
communications with the IRS or when doing business with Federal
agencies. They cannot, as yet, require you to do so. Just say no.


LEARN ABOUT ENCRYPTION AND EXPLAIN THE ISSUES TO YOUR UNWIRED FRIENDS

The administration is banking on the likelihood that this stuff too
technically obscure to agitate anyone but nerds like us. You prove
them wrong by patiently explaining what's going on to all the people
you know who have never touched a computer and glaze over at the
mention of words like "cryptography."

Maybe you glaze over yourself. Don't. It's not that hard. For some
hands-on experience, download a copy of PGP, a shareware encryption
engine which uses the robust RSA encryption algorithm. and learn to
use it.


GET YOUR COMPANY TO THINK ABOUT EMBEDDING REAL CRYPTOGRAPHY IN ITS
PRODUCTS

If you work for a company which makes software, computer hardware, or
any kind of communications device, work from within to get them to
incorporate RSA or some other strong encryption scheme into their
products. If they say that they are afraid to violate the export
embargo, ask them to consider manufacturing such products overseas and
importing them back into the United States. There appears to be no law
against that. As yet.

You might also lobby your company to join the Digital Privacy and
Security Working Group, a coalition of companies and public interest
groups that includes IBM, Apple, Sun, Microsoft (and, interestingly,
Clipper phone manufacturer AT&T) that is working to get the embargo
lifted.


JOIN EFF, CPSR, OR BOTH

Self-serving as it sounds coming from me, I think you can do a lot to
help by becoming a member of one of these organizations. In addition
to giving you access to the latest information on this subject, every
additional member strengthens our credibility with Congress.

Join the Electronic Frontier Foundation by writing membership@eff.org.
Join Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility by writing
[provide e-mail address here.]

In his LA speech, Gore called the development of the NII "a
revolution." And it is a revolutionary war we are engaged in here.
Clipper is a last ditch attempt by the United States, the last great
power from the Industrial Era, to establish imperial control over
Cyberspace. If they win, the most liberating development in the
history of humankind could become, instead, the surveillance system
which will monitor our grandchildren's morality. We can be better
ancestors than that.


John Perry Barlow is co-founder and Vice-Chairman of the Electronic
Frontier Foundation, a group which defends liberty, both in Cyberspace
and the Physical World. He has three daughters.

End of Computer Underground Digest #6.24
************************************

-- 
 Tom Jennings -- tomj@wps.com -- World Power Systems --  San Francisco, Calif.

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Subject: more Clipper
To: shit-list
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Shit-list is supposed to ba amusing, even if painful amusement. I don't
want it to turn into a one-track strident monstrosity. However the
gov'ts Clipper thing is at a curious point. It is very scary
history-making actions here, it reall is a turning point in (U.S.)
societal paradigm re: law enforcement's relation to it's citizenry. 

This outlines a clever trick Gilmore is pulling. He is one of the
very few people who can afford the legal battle, if it goes that
far. I hope they don't silkwood him.


>From surfpunk-0105. Contact info near the end.


From: surfpunk@osc.versant.com (jvgarffvat gur travhf bs senzref)
To: surfpunk@osc.versant.com (SURFPUNK Technical Journal)
Subject: [surfpunk-0105] FOIA: the Clipper Key Escrow databases

*		"I know of no safe depository of the ultimate powers
*		of the society but the people themselves, and if we
*		think them not enlightened enough to exercise that
*		control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not
*		to take it from them, but to inform their discretion."
*
*				-- Thomas Jefferson, 1820
*				[passed along by librarian Ruth Reynolds]


SURFPUNK BACKISSUES:  ftp://ftp.yak.net/pub/surfpunk
               ALSO:  ftp://ftp.eff.org/pub/Publications/CuD/Surfpunk/


John Gilmore has sent a Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) request for
the database of escrowed key components.  These are the half-keys that 
will be required to decrypt conversations on the pre-wiretapped
Clipper encrypted telephones.

The idea behind FOIA is that the U S Government should be accountable
to its citizens by having its files and databases open to public
inspection.  The mechanism for doing this is to file a FOIA request to
a government agency, and they are supposed to send you what you ask
for, with some exceptions.  Requesting the Clipper key databases seems
silly at first, but really it strikes at the heart of why Clipper is
such a bad idea:  FOIA prevents government from collecting information
about citizens that the citizens themselves cannot be trusted with.  If
we do not want other citizens listening in to our private conversations, 
the government has no business doing it, either, because they should be 
working *for* us.

BTW, Eric Hughes points out that "escrowed" is not really the right
word.  An escrow agent is someone chosen and agreed to by both parties
to hold something for future release under certain conditions.  In the
case of Clipper Keys, both parties do not get to agree to who the
escrow agents are.  They are chosen for you: one is the U S Treasury
department, whose Secret Service brought you the Steve Jackson Games
fiasco; the other is NIST, who is plowing ahead with the Clipper
standard despite a nearly unanimous response against it during their
period of public comment.

It looks like John has created a mailing list foia-keys-request@toad.com 
if you're interested in following this.  The Cypherpunks list is still at
cypherpunks-request@toad.com.                 --strick

________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

To: cypherpunks@toad.com, gnu@toad.com
Subject: <6g> I have FOIA'd the Clipper Key Escrow databases
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 94 12:58:40 -0800
From: gnu@toad.com


There appears to be no FOIA exemption that would justify withholding
the key escrow databases which Treasury and NIST are building.  (The
keys are not tied to any individual, so individual privacy isn't a
valid exemption.  The database isn't classified.  Etc.)  I have asked
for a copy of each database, in toto.  Letters were sent yesterday.
One is reproduced below; the other is identical except for the
addressee and minor details.

You too can do things like this.  It's fun and it occasionally
produces highly useful information.  Just think of something that the
government knows, and has written down on paper, that you want to
know.  Ask them for it.  You have the right to know.  They're spending
your taxes to subjugate you, and they're required to answer, though
almost all agencies do it grudgingly.  Post your request to the net,
so that we-all will know it's happening, and can be inspired to think
of other interesting things to ask for.

You don't need all the boilerplate below about exemptions and time
limits and stuff; that is to put the agencies on notice that we will
push them in court, if necessary, to be responsive.  Or you can use
our boilerplate in your own requests, if you like.  Alter the "media
requester" section to suit your own situation.

        John

[[ The actual FOIA request is at the end  --strick ]]


________________________________________________________________________

Date: Mon, 28 Feb 94 11:48:59 -0800
From: hughes@ah.com (Eric Hughes)
Message-Id: <9402281948.AA05053@ah.com>
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: <8c> I have FOIA'd the Clipper Key Escrow databases


Should John's FOIA request for the clipper key database work, it
creates a wonderful hole in the entire key custody system.

It would require a legislative act to plug the hole.

This is extremely significant, since the whole clipper strategy is
based on unchecked and unbalanced actions by the executive branch.  No
laws were passed to create clipper and no judicial review has taken
place.

John's request will be denied, no doubt, and will go to court.  Should
he prevail in court, the executive branch is bound by that decision.
A key custody database which was public would make the system insecure
and unusable.  The executive branch could not change this.  Only the
legislature could.

Now, how many legislators do you know that are going to make a public
record by voting in favor of Big Brother?

We are witnessing the genius of framers of the USA Constitution here,
folks.

Eric

________________________________________________________________________

To: smb@research.att.com
Cc: cypherpunks@toad.com, gnu@toad.com
Subject: <6g> Re: I have FOIA'd the Clipper Key Escrow databases
In-Reply-To: <9402252135.AA04902@toad.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 94 00:21:43 -0800


> I confess -- I expect one of two outcomes.  First, they may say that
> the database is classified, if only at the level of ``For Official
> Use Only''.

`For Official Use Only' is not a valid classification.  A document
with this marking cannot be withheld under FOIA exemption 1.  You have
to read the Executive Orders on classification -- this category got
cleaned up a LONG time ago.

The current Executive Order gives particular criteria for classifying
things.  If this database doesn't fit any of those criteria, it can't
legally be classified.  I don't believe that this database is covered.
And a judge in a FOIA case can do a "de novo" (from scratch) review of
whether the material is legally classified, by examining it himself in
private -- we don't have to take the agency's word that "there really
is some reason it is classified".

Also, giving classified information to unauthorized people is a major
offense.  They threatened me with that offense one time, over texts
that I found in a library.  If the keys in the database are
classified, they can't give them out to cops.  FOIA requires that they
"segregate" any classified part and give me the rest of what's there,
so if they claim that "well, one key isn't classified, but ten or a
thousand of them are classified", I bet we can (1) get some keys out,
(2) challenge this idea in court.  In particular, it should be
possible to record the LEAF from a particular chip (whether you own
it, or not!) and send it to them in a FOIA request asking for the
matching unit key.  They clearly can map a LEAF to a key (they do it
for cops), and FOIA only requires that you "reasonably describe" the
records you want.  Given their mapping capability, the LEAF is a
reasonable description of the record you want.

> Second, maybe they will release it -- but remember that
> the keys are stored encrypted.  Can you file an FOIA request for the
> key, too?

Either I can get the key, or I can get them to decrypt it for me.  If
they could hold arbitrary government records in secret by simply
encrypting them and classifying the keys, FOIA would be entirely
thwarted; the courts wouldn't let them get away with it.

By the way, I did request the keys:

> This request includes your database of the escrowed key
> components.  This request also includes any ancillary information
> about the database, such as data formats, procedures, standards,
> access methods, memos and documents about its use, access
> software, plans, etc.  If the database itself is stored in encrypted
> form, then this request also includes the computer programs and
> keys required to access it.

        John

________________________________________________________________________



law office of
Lee Tien
1452 Curtis Street
Berkeley, California  94702
_______________ 
  tien@well.sf.ca.us      
voice:  (510) 525-0817
fax:  (510) 525-3015


February 24, 1994

Reference:  KEY ESCROW DATABASE-TREASURY


Departmental Disclosure Office
Department of the Treasury
Room 1054-MT
Washington, D.C.  20220
ATTN:  FOIA request

Dear Sir or Madam:

This is a request under the Freedom of Information Act [5 
U.S.C. Sec. 552] on behalf of my client, Mr. John Gilmore.  

I write to request a copy of all agency records or portions 
thereof, in electronic or other form, which relate to the database of 
escrowed key components for encryption using the key escrow 
encryption method.  The Attorney General announced on Friday, 
February 4, 1994, that the Automated Systems Division of the 
Department of the Treasury will be one of the two escrow agents.  


This request includes your database of the escrowed key 
components.  This request also includes any ancillary information 
about the database, such as data formats, procedures, standards, 
access methods, memos and documents about its use, access 
software, plans, etc.  If the database itself is stored in encrypted 
form, then this request also includes the computer programs and 
keys required to access it. 

We specifically request that you make the database available in 
electronic form, such as on magnetic tape.  We remind you that the 
long-standing rule that the FOIA "makes no distinction between 
records maintained in manual and computer storage systems," 
Yeager v. D.E.A., 678 F.2d 315, 321 (D.C.Cir. 1982), has recently 
been amplified in Armstrong v. Executive Office of the President, 
810 F.Supp. 335 (D.D.C. 1993).  Any paper print-outs of electronic 
records, such as e-mail, must include all information in the 
electronic record.  Assuming that there would be no loss of 
releasable information, such as written comments made on paper 
print-outs, we therefore ask you to release all responsive electronic 
records in electronic, i.e., machine-readable, form.  

As you know, the FOIA provides that an agency must make an 
initial determination of whether to comply with a FOIA request 
within ten working days of receiving the request.  

If the records that you possess were originated or classified by 
another organization, I ask that your organization declassify them 
(if needed) and release them to me, as provided in the FOIA, 
within the statutory time limits.  If there is a conflict between the 
statutory time limits and some regulation or policy that requires 
you to refer the records, the statutory requirement takes precedence 
over any Executive-branch regulation, policy or practice.  

Congress placed a limit on the time which may be expended in 
referrals.  The FOIA explicitly provides that referrals to other 
interested agencies or agency components are treated under the 
provision for "unusual circumstances," and cannot justify a delay 
of more than an additional 10 working days.  5 U.S.C. Sec. 
552(a)(6)(B)(iii).   

"[W]hen an agency receives a FOIA request for 'agency 
records' in its possession it must take responsibility for processing 
the request.  It cannot simply refuse to act on the ground that the 
documents originated elsewhere."  McGehee v. C.I.A., 697 F.2d 
1095, 1110 (D.C. Cir. 1983).   Even records originated by other 
agencies are subject to immediate release under the applicable case 
law, if they were at the time of the request in the possession and 
control of your agency.

Simply put, the FOIA and the case law take precedence over 
executive branch regulations or practices regarding referrals.  If 
you do refer documents to any other agency, and they are not 
provided within the time limits, we intend to litigate on this 
point.

As you know, the FOIA provides that even if some requested 
material is properly exempted from mandatory disclosure, all 
segregable portions must be released.  [5 U.S.C. Sec. 552(b)]  If any 
or all material covered by this request is withheld, please inform 
me of the specific exemptions that are being claimed, and mark all 
deletions to indicate the exemption(s) being claimed to authorize 
each individual withholding.  If the (b)(3) exemption is claimed, 
please indicate the relevant withholding statute(s).

If any records are withheld, I request a Vaughn index or its 
equivalent during the administrative process.  "[T]he objective of 
the Vaughn requirements, to permit the requesting party to present 
its case effectively, is equally applicable to proceedings within the 
agency."  Mead Data Central v. Department of the Air Force, 402 
F.Supp. 460 (D.D.C. 1974), remanded, 566 F.2d 242 (D.C. Cir. 
1977) aff'd, 575 F.2d 932 (D.C. Cir. 1978).  

"[A] person cannot effectively appeal a decision about the 
releasability of documents ... if he is not informed of at 
least a list of the documents to which he was denied access 
... and why those decisions were made.  Denial of this 
information would in all likelihood be a denial of due 
process as well as effectively gutting the reasons for 
applying the exhaustion doctrine in FOIA cases."

Shermco Industries, Inc. v. Secretary of the Air Force, 452 F.Supp. 
306, 317 n.7 (N.D. Tex. 1978); see Oglesby v. Department of the 
Army, 920 F.2d 57, 65 (D.C. Cir. 1990) (citing Shermco).   It 
should be simple to prepare a list and the claimed exemptions as 
the records are processed.  Disclosing such information would not 
disclose any exempt information and it would make it easier to 
appeal your initial determination on the merits.  

In addition, I ask that your agency exercise its discretion to 
release information that may be technically exempt.  As you know, 
the Attorney General on October 4, 1993, directed that agencies 
should administer the FOIA under a presumption of disclosure, and 
that information which need not be withheld should not be.

I remind you that under Chrysler v. Brown, 441 U.S. 281, 293 
(1979), the 5 U.S.C. Sec. 552(b) exemptions are discretionary, not 
mandatory.  An agency can generally choose to release exempt 
information.  This discretionary review process for withholding 
cannot take precedence over the law, which requires a response 
within specified time limits.  Moreover, that discretion, according 
to the Attorney General's October 4, 1993 memorandum, must be 
exercised in accordance with a presumption of disclosure.  Even if 
a substantial legal basis exists for withholding, information is not 
to be withheld unless it need be.  

I also request that fees be waived because Mr. Gilmore should 
be deemed a media requester by your agency for FOIA purposes, 
and because the public interest would be furthered by a fee waiver.  


The D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals has held that "a 
representative of the news media is, in essence, a person or entity 
that gathers information of potential interest to a segment of the 
public, uses its editorial skills to turn the raw materials into a 
distinct work, and distributes that work to an audience."  National 
Security Archive v. Department of Defense, 880 F.2d 1381, 1387 
(D.C.Cir. 1989), cert. denied 494 U.S. 1029 (1990).  

This definition applies strongly to Mr. Gilmore, who is a co-
founder and director of the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), a 
Washington, D.C.-based public interest organization.  The EFF has 
been intimately involved in policy discussions concerning key 
escrow encryption and distributes information to the public by 
newsletter and electronic distribution about this and other topics 
involving civil liberties.   Mr. Gilmore is also a skilled computer 
programmer who has spent the last ten years distributing his work 
for public use to a worldwide audience on the Internet and the 
Usenet.  

Mr. Gilmore is also entitled to a fee waiver because "disclosure 
of the information is in the public interest because it is likely to 
contribute significantly to public understanding of the operations 
or activities of the government and is not primarily in the 
commercial interest of the requester."  

There exists a tremendous public debate over the wisdom and 
legality of the key escrow encryption plan, as I am sure you are 
well aware.  Your agency's database is clearly an operation of the 
government in which the public has a great interest.  The Vice 
President himself has publicly expressed doubt about the 
delegating key escrow responsibilities to agencies which are part of 
the executive branch.  The information requested herein relates to 
such doubt.  This information is not yet in the public record, so the 
request makes a substantial contribution to the public 
understanding.  

This request is not primarily in the commercial interest of Mr. 
Gilmore.  He will not benefit financially from this information in 
any way.  He intends to disseminate the requested records widely 
and freely to inform this public debate.   

Should there be any problem in this regard, Mr. Gilmore 
promises to pay up to $1000 in fees, and you should therefore 
begin processing of this request without fee-related delays.  

As provided under the FOIA, I will expect a reply within ten 
(10) working days.  


Sincerely,



Lee Tien
Attorney at Law
On behalf of Mr. John Gilmore

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   Vice President Al Gore's comments:


				By Jay Levin (C) 1994
				From New York Unix Vol 4 #3.
				WASHINGTON, Feb 11

	Under the Clipper plan, the keys would be stored at the
	Treasury Department and the National Insitute of Standards and
	Technology (NIST), whic is part of the Commerce Department.
	Both Treasury and Commerce are from the same branch of
	government, the executive branch.

	"When I saw that I said 'Wow.  That is not right,' and I raised
	hell about that," Gore said in an interview Thursday.

	Having the key holders from the same branch of government
	raises concern because there is no systems of checks and
	balances, Gore said.  "That's going to be changed," he said.

	... The selection of NIST and Treasury "was spun out of the process
	at the low level and was not vetted at the top," Gore said.
	Gore's comments were made after appearing before the first
	meeting of a private sector advisory panel on the development
	of a "national information infrastructure" in Washington, D.C.

		




   From: Carl Ellison <cme@sw.stratus.com>


	>The FBI and the Justice Department say the initiative would
	>not expand their power, but would ensure access to the type of
	>communications they have been entitled to tap for years.


	This is totally bogus.

	The FBI has never had the right to watch computer programs
	execute.  Now that computer programs are being written as
	distributed systems, what was originally written to be an
	internal subroutine call can look like a message over the phone
	system.

	The FBI never had the right to bug corporate conference rooms.
	Now that companies are using videoconferencing, a private
	corporate conference could look like a phone call.

	Etc.

	This needs to be fought.

	 - Carl




   To: cypherpunks@toad.com
   Subject: SQUISH

	I just received a notice concerning your game.  Please send me
	some more information on how to join/play as well as any rules.
	Thanks,
	Jeff







-- 
 Tom Jennings -- tomj@wps.com -- World Power Systems --  San Francisco, Calif.

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Wow, the verbing of silkwood... um, haha. Well, life during wartime, I guess...
--Deke

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Subject: MOO - COWS!!!

Sent from the cyberdeck of: muddy@wam.umd.edu (gregor markowitz)

Sent from the cyberdeck of: muddy@wam.umd.edu (gregor markowitz)

If there's one thing we care about here at muddy river boatworks
besides boats, it's COWS.

Yesterday was the first day wherein it was legal to sell dairy
products from cows injected with rBGH. This is a sick and
trecherous alien technology, the fruits of many cattle mutilations.

People, we are going to have to go without milk and dairy for a
while. This is hard to take at the boatworks. There is no labeling
required on the contaminated products, so all we can hope is that
dairy outfits who do not use the genetically spliced hormones will
label THEIR stuff. We can only hope a boycott will make rBGH 
unworkable and it will be removed from the industry.

PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT USE ANY DAIRY PRODUCTS UNLESS YOU ARE CERTAIN
THEY CONTAIN NO MILK FROM BGH INJECTED COWS.

We affixed this information sheet to the dairy cooler in our
local stores. Please print it on your printer and put it up
in the dairy section of your store.

Also, send this to everyone you can think of. Ask them to put
it up in their stores!

BOYCOTT ALIEN TECHNOLOGIES!
BOYCOTT PUS MILK!

----------------reprint flyer below ------------------

Starting on February 3, 1994, the United States Government's Food and
 Drug Administration (FDA) is allowing the commercial sale and use of
 foods derived from dairy cows that are injected with a genetically-
 engineered hormone known as recombinant "Bovine Growth Hormone" (rBGH),
 also known as "Bovine Somatotropin" or BST.

 There will be no required labeling on these products even though
 98% of American consumers favor labeling of rBGH [contaminated]
 products so that they can avoid buying them.

 Regularly injecting cows with genetically-engineered Bovine Growth
 Hormones drastically increases the amounts of milk that the cows
 produce. Monsanto Corporation, the chemical conglomerate that
 won the FDA approval to market rBGH to American dairy farmers under
 the brand name POSILAC, is pushing the recombinant "Bovine Growth
 Hormone" on the dairy industry as a way to squeeze more milk from
 every cow, boosting milk production by as much as 25 percent.

 But rBGH is a disaster for the cows, the small dairy farmers, and the
 United States taxpayers. And rBGH will likely have HARMFUL EFFECTS
 on human health [our health and our children's health] and on our
 environment, as well. Recombinant "Bovine Growth Hormone" is like
 "crack" for cows. It revs up their systems and forces them to produce
 a lot more milk -- but it also makes them sick! According to numerous
 studies, cows injected with rBGH suffer from increased udder infections
 (mastitis) and from greater stress and disease. rBGH-injected cows
 also may suffer from severe reproductive problems, digestive disorders,
 foot and leg ailments, and persistent body sores and lacerations.

 Sick cows make sick milk. Studies indicate that milk from cows
 injected with the recombinant "Bovine Growth Hormone" has more
 saturated fat and less protein than regular milk. The infections
 that rBGH causes in cows may lead to large amounts of pus in milk.
 "Pus" is defined as "thick, opaque, usually yellowish-white fluid
 matter, comprising an exudate which contains leukocytes, tissue
 debris and microorganisms." Pus is the waste product of bodily
 infections. 





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Subject: passin' da blunt ta hermes
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Dude. 


Thought some additional, information on that list I mailed out earlyier 
would interest you. It's mostly the same stuff re-hased, but this one has 
a few additions. A few extra facts, as well as dates.

......


2727 BC

First recorded use of cannabis as medicine in Chinese phamacopeia. In 
every part of the world humankind has used cannabis for a wide variety of 
health problems.

1937

Cannabis was withdrawn from the American public against the medical 
advice of the medical community. Hemp was excluded from the Class II 
schedule of drugs (having demonstrated medical value) and listed as a 
Class I (dangerous substance with know known medical value) by the Nixon 
administration (one more reason to hate Nixon-F) in 1970- despite all 
evidence to the contrary- and was retained as a Class I by the Bush 
administration in 1989.

1972

The Nixon-appointed Shafer commision urged that the use of cannabis be 
re-legalized, which was not done. Still, medical research continued, 
often with remarkable results.

1975

FDA establishes Compassionate Use Program for medical marijuana.

1988

DEA administrative law Judge Francis Young found after thorough hearings 
that marijuana had clearly established medical use and should be 
reclasified as a prescriptive drug.

"The National Academy of Science reports that marijuana relieves asthma 
attaks and loss of appetite. Furthermore, marijuana can be clinically 
used to combat nausea and vomiting, epilepsy, muscle spasticity, anxiety, 
depression, pain, glaucoma, and symptoms of withdrawl from alcohol and 
narcotics."

National Academy of Science
Marijuana and Health Report
June 1982



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Subject: News of the Weird [317] - 4Mar94 (fwd)
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Sorry Flesh, I swiped these from your list.

Exceprts from:

WEIRDNUZ.317 (News of the Weird, March 4, 1994
by Chuck Shepherd

* In October, Canadian environmentalist William Lishman and an
associate flew two ultralight aircraft from Blackstock, Ontario,
to Gaines, N. Y., and then to Airlie, Va., leading a flock of 18
geese.  The two men were demonstrating to the geese how to fly
south for the winter.  The geese had been raised in captivity and
thus lacked migration skills. [Edmonton Journal-CP, 10- 20-93]

* The trade association International Business Forms Industries,
Inc., recently changed its name to The International Association
Serving the Forms, Information Management, Systems Automation and
Printed Communications Requirements of Business. [Print & Graphics
newsletter, January 1994]

* According to witnesses, a middle-aged man, 6-feet-4, with a gray
beard robbed a convenience store in Perryopolis, Pa., in August.
As a disguise, he was wearing a large rabbit head, including large,
floppy ears.  However, the face had been cut out so that the robber's
face was fully visible. [The Tennessean, 8-28- 93]

* In 1992, the Pro-Line Cap Company of Fort Worth was cited by the
Occupational Safety and Health Administration for not having adequate
restroom facilities for its female employees.  Shortly afterward,
according to an Equal Employment Opportunity Commission complaint
filed in January 1994, the company, rather than add the restroom
facilities, merely fired 30 female employees so as to remove the
need. [Dallas Morning News, 1-5-94]



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Sorry Flesh, I swiped these from your list.

Excerpts from:

WEIRDNUZ.317 (News of the Weird, March 4, 1994
by Chuck Shepherd

* In October, Canadian environmentalist William Lishman and an
associate flew two ultralight aircraft from Blackstock, Ontario,
to Gaines, N. Y., and then to Airlie, Va., leading a flock of 18
geese.  The two men were demonstrating to the geese how to fly
south for the winter.  The geese had been raised in captivity and
thus lacked migration skills. [Edmonton Journal-CP, 10- 20-93]

* The trade association International Business Forms Industries,
Inc., recently changed its name to The International Association
Serving the Forms, Information Management, Systems Automation and
Printed Communications Requirements of Business. [Print & Graphics
newsletter, January 1994]

* According to witnesses, a middle-aged man, 6-feet-4, with a gray
beard robbed a convenience store in Perryopolis, Pa., in August.
As a disguise, he was wearing a large rabbit head, including large,
floppy ears.  However, the face had been cut out so that the robber's
face was fully visible. [The Tennessean, 8-28- 93]

* In 1992, the Pro-Line Cap Company of Fort Worth was cited by the
Occupational Safety and Health Administration for not having adequate
restroom facilities for its female employees.  Shortly afterward,
according to an Equal Employment Opportunity Commission complaint
filed in January 1994, the company, rather than add the restroom
facilities, merely fired 30 female employees so as to remove the
need. [Dallas Morning News, 1-5-94]



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You may now take a peek at what LANL considers acceptable for mere
mortals.  Likely it's 99.9% dull. Maybe there'll be something scary.
Hopefully the by-accident kind, you know, the kind of terrifying
benevolence only true sickos can generate.

BTW, he gave everything except the actual gopher invokation, which
is:

gopher nis5.lanl.gov

You can be certain everything is logged. Keep this in mind before
you go poking around in random hosts at LANL. The public stuff is
fine, but don't play budding cracker from my fucking site!!!!


>From CuD:


Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 09:51:06 -0700 (MST)
From: jeffj@NIS5.LANL.GOV(Jeffrey Johnson)
Subject: New Gopher Service Available

Now available!
                   ----------------------------------

We are now running our own gopher server to facilitate easy access to
group information. Currently, there are plans to  make the following
available:

    Searchable abstracts of group publications
    Foreign travel reports
    A searchable listing of group email addresses
    Pointers to other handy LANL services

At the moment you will not find much information published, but we're
hoping that that will change. If you have any  suggestions about what
should be published, please let me know by sending email to
jeffj@nis5.lanl.gov. Keep in mind  that published information can be text-
only and that it must be non-sensitive information only.  For the moment,
the information on our server can be read by anyone on the  Internet.
Graphics and sound files can also be distributed over the network, but no
mixture of the three is yet possible.  A World Wide Web server is coming
soon, which will allow us greater flexibility in what we can publish on
the network.

Access through the LANL Server:
 +-------------------------------
 1.   Start your gopher software - it should automatically  connect to
      the main LANL gopher server. (TurboGopher for  Macs, HGopher for
      PC's running Windows)
 2.   Select 'Information by Division'
 3.   Select 'Nonproliferation and International Security'
 4.   Select 'NIS-5 Information'

You should now be connected to the NIS-5 Gopher server. Feel  free to
explore. The 'Information by Division' section under  the main LANL server
also contains pointers to all current laboratory Gopher and World Wide Web
servers, so this is a good place to find information about other groups
who run servers.

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From tomj Mon Mar 28 11:56:23 1994
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Cute, huh. Max, maybe you can get FidoNews banned in the country it
originates from! Well... can you discuss discussions about banned items?



FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE                                 Contact:
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Cyberspace Cannot Be Censored
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WIRED Responds to Canadian Ban of Its April Issue

Wednesday, March 23, 1994, San Francisco


WIRED's April issue has been banned in Canada. WIRED's offense?
Publication of a story called "Paul and Karla Hit the Net," a
400-word article about how Canadians are getting around a Canadian
court decision to ban media coverage of details in the  Teale-Homolka
murder case.

This article does not reveal details of the case. Instead, the
article explains why the media ban has proven unenforceable and
reports how information on the case is readily available to Canadians.

According to a survey conducted by the Ottawa Citizen newspaper,
26 percent of those polled said they knew prohibited details of
the trial, because they are continuously leaked by Canadian court
witnesses, police, and others to the international  media. Once
this information is published, it pours back into Canada via fax,
videocassettes, magazines and photocopies of articles, e-mail,
Internet newsgroups, and other online services. In the United
States, People magazine, and the TV show, A  Current Affair as well
as the New York Times and other publications and shows have covered
the story and the ban.

As WIRED's story and the action of Canada's Attorney General make
clear, the ban is not only a waste of time and money,but has actually
had the opposite effect of what was intended. Rumors and sensationalized
accounts of the case abound, and the  Teale-Homolka trial is one
of the hottest topics of discussion among Canadians.

"Banning of publications is behavior we normally associate with
Third-World dictatorships," said WIRED publisher Louis Rossetto.
"This an ominous indication that the violation of human rights is
becoming Canadian policy."

According to Rossetto, the Canadian Government's recent seizure of
gay and lesbian periodicals under the guise of controlling
"pornography" and its behavior in the Teale-Homolka case have made
Canada a leading violator of free speech rights, and  have set a
scary precedent for other nations that would like to control what
its citizens read and think.

"Information wants to be free," said Jane Metcalfe, WIRED's president.
"At the end of the 20th century, attempts to ban stories like this
one are condemned to be futile. That WIRED's criticism of the ban
has itself been banned is supremely ironic  and utterly chilling."

Since WIRED supports free speech, WIRED is making the text of its
"banned" story with details on how readers can get more information
on the case available on the Internet. Canadians and people around
the world can discover exactly what the Canadian  government is
trying to keep hidden.

The banned article text can be obtained via the following WIRED
Online services:

  o WIRED Infobot e-mail server     send e-mail to infobot@wired.com,
                                    containing the words "get
                                    homolka/banned.text" on a single 
                                    line inside the message body

  o WIRED Gopher                    gopher to gopher.wired.com
                                    select "Teale-Homolka "

  o WIRED on World Wide Web         http://www.wired.com
                                    select "Teale-Homolka "

The complete text of WIRED 2.04 will be available from the Infobot, Gopher,
and World Wide Web on April 19.

=-=---==-=---=-  Michael Gold  --=--==---=-  Online Grotto --=--=-=-=--=-=
=-=---==-=---=  WIRED Magazine --=--==---  michael@wired.com  -=-=--=-==--




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