From bhogg@netcom.com Mon Feb 21 10:54:30 1994 Received: from netcom9.netcom.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA10608; Mon, 21 Feb 94 10:54:26 -0800 Received: from localhost by netcom9.netcom.com (8.6.4/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id KAA19748; Mon, 21 Feb 1994 10:55:05 -0800 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 10:48:48 -0800 (PST) From: "Robert W. Hogg" Subject: FidoNet specs To: tomj@wps.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Hello! I understand that you are *the* Tom Jennings of FidoNet fame. I found your email address completely by accident while doing a bit of net_surfing. (Found the World Power Systems Gopher) My collegue and I were looking for some technical documentation, and I think you might be able to point us in the right direction. We are in the process of developing a BBS package, and we are looking for more complete technical documentation on FidoNet and Fido-type echomail and netmail. We already have a scanner/tosser, but we would like to build the functionality of FrontDoor or BinkleyTerm directly into the BBS software. I understand the committees in charge of FidoNet have a series of technical documents similar to Internet RFC's that would most likely have the information we seek, but I have not been able to find them on the 'net as of yet. Any assistance you could give us would be most appreciated. I'll even mention you in the acknowledgements in the docs! Bob Hogg MutantBBS Development Team ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sometimes you need to stop and smell the spam...... Bob bhogg@netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bigboss@xmission.com Wed Feb 23 10:13:37 1994 Received: from xmission.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA18079; Wed, 23 Feb 94 10:13:30 -0800 Received: by xmission.com (4.1/Xmission/SMI-4.1) id AA27876; Wed, 23 Feb 94 11:13:10 MST From: bigboss@xmission.com (Travis Tabbal) Message-Id: <9402231813.AA27876@xmission.com> Subject: Fidonet! To: tomj@wps.com Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 11:13:09 -0700 (MST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 629 Status: OR Hello Tom Jennings. I'm sorry to have to bother you, I'm at a last-ditch attempt here. :) .. I am writing a Fido Mail system, and cannot locate the specs on how to send Netmail. It appears to be a Type-2 .PKT file, and I can read the headers. But how is it different from an orphan echo? Or do I toss and hope for the best? If you cannot help me, please direct me to the propper source. I can't figgure how to contact the FTSC. I cannot find it in the FTSC documents I have. I understand there is a flag or something to set but don't see it anywhere. Thanks for your time. Travis Tabbal bigboss@xmission.com 1:311/6 From stat!wierius!f169.n114.z1.resume.stat.com!allen.borovkoff@enuucp.eas.asu.edu Tue Mar 1 11:24:34 1994 Received: from enuucp.EAS.ASU.EDU by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA02402; Tue, 1 Mar 94 11:24:22 -0800 Received: from stat.UUCP by enuucp.eas.asu.edu with UUCP id AA08499 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for wps.com!tomj); Tue, 1 Mar 1994 12:24:13 -0700 Received: by stat.com (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Mon, 28 Feb 94 10:21:52 MST for wps.com!tomj Received: from resume by wierius.stat.com id aa00552; Mon, 28 Feb 94 10:02:52 MST Received: by resume.stat.com (Fred/1.9q) id AA01044; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 10:00:40 From: Allen.Borovkoff@f169.n114.z1.resume.stat.com (Allen Borovkoff) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 23:30:08 Message-Id: <762458440.AA01044@resume.stat.com> Subject: Thanks! To: tomj@wps.com Status: OR Hello Tom! I just wanted to say thank you for all you've done for electronic communications and for your support of our rights to privacy in these ever-changing ways of communications. Sending my "e-mail" as requested in Fidonews 1108. = Allen Borovkoff = = Phoenix Area SecureMail = ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: email - allen.borovkoff@tcc.stat.com :: :: or @f169.n114.z1.fidonet.org :: :: The Cactus Connection BBS * Phoenix, Arizona * (602) 789-9550 :: :: 14.4 kbps USR * Fidonet * Pioneer Net * USAnet * Internet :: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: From schirado@lab.cc.wmich.edu Thu Mar 3 04:31:01 1994 Received: from grog.lab.cc.wmich.edu by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA00577; Thu, 3 Mar 94 04:30:58 -0800 Received: by lab.cc.wmich.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28381; Thu, 3 Mar 94 07:30:54 EST From: schirado@lab.cc.wmich.edu (Schirado) Message-Id: <9403031230.AA28381@lab.cc.wmich.edu> Subject: Yowza! To: tomj@wps.com Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 07:30:54 -0500 (EST) Cc: schirado@lab.cc.wmich.edu Organization: The Frog Farm X-Vegetable: Aardvark! Reply-To: schirado@lab.cc.wmich.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 459 Status: OR Just saw your post in this weeks' CuD. Glad to see you're still around and about. In case I never mentioned this, Fido was the only software I could find to run a BBS on my DEC Rainbow when I first entered the world of telecommunications at the age of 12. Thanks for getting me started. (The other big moment I remember is reading "Famous Homosexuals in Fidonet Revealed!" :) Live long, and prosper! (No, i'm not a trekkie... i just like the sentiment.) From gumby@cygnus.com Sat Mar 5 16:57:14 1994 Received: from cygnus.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA06169; Sat, 5 Mar 94 16:57:12 -0800 Received: from rtl.cygnus.com by cygnus.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28637; Sat, 5 Mar 94 16:57:10 PST From: gumby@cygnus.com (D. V. Henkel-Wallace) Received: from localhost (gumby@localhost) by rtl.cygnus.com (8.6.4/8.6.4) id QAA04515; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 16:57:09 -0800 Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 16:57:09 -0800 Message-Id: <199403060057.QAA04515@rtl.cygnus.com> To: tomj@wps.com Subject: OFFER OF HELP Status: OR Hey there Tom, I was talking with Silke about getting the little garden finances in order and she needs to know even what kind of job it is. Are we talkijg about an evening of plwing through and setting up a system or or severa weeks of work or what? She' be happy to come by Sunday and see what's up. Give us a call if you'd like -- 552 5356 -- talk to the robot if we're not in; we were going to go hiking tmw afternoon. cheers, g From jonl@IO.COM Mon Mar 7 16:15:37 1994 Received: from illuminati.io.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA02207; Mon, 7 Mar 94 16:15:34 -0800 Received: from localhost by illuminati.IO.COM (8.6.4/PERFORMIX-0.9/08-16-92) id SAA08656; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 18:09:39 -0600 From: jonl@IO.COM (Jon K Lebkowsky) Message-Id: <199403080009.SAA08656@illuminati.IO.COM> Subject: April 16 Program To: hlr@well.com, tomj@wps.com, sandy@actlab.rtf.utexas.edu Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 18:09:38 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 771 Status: OR All three of you have confirmed for the April 16 event, and it looks like we've ironed out the kinks, so now we can think about structure. My suggestion is that each of you make a talk of 30-40 minutes, followed by a panel to respond to questions from the group. If this is okay, I need a subject from each of ya... (I know this sounds grueling, but I promise a party at the end... 8) jon -- ******************************************************************** Jon Lebkowsky Prez, FringeWare, Inc. Co-editor, Fringe Ware Review Cyborganic Jivemeister, bOING-bOING Magazine "States of Mind" ed., Millennium Whole Earth Catalog ******************************************************************** From ecavazos@blkbox.COM Thu Mar 10 17:29:25 1994 Received: from blkbox.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA08172; Thu, 10 Mar 94 17:29:16 -0800 From: "Edward A. Cavazos" X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: tomj@wps.com Subject: Your Upcoming Visit to Houston Cc: efh-directors@blkbox.COM, jonl@io.com Date: Thu, 10 Mar 94 19:22:50 CST Message-Id: <9403101923.aa17383@blkbox.COM> Status: OR Hi Tom: As Prentiss Riddle explained in his last e-mail to you, I am going to involved in coordinating the format for your event in Houston in April. I'd very much like your thoughts on what you'd be interested in doing. We have done some brainstorming, and can offer some of our ideas if you are interested: Obviously, we would love to have a lecture on any topic of your choice which you feel might be appropriate for our members (sysops, users, net junkies, cyberartists, civil libertarians, etc.). We have a good auditorium-type room at the University of Houston for the event, and depending on how well our publicity team does its job, we expect anywhere from 30-150 people. We have full audio-visual capabilities (overheads, slides, chalkboards, etc.) at our disposal, if you let us know in advance. If a traditional lecture/take question format isn't what you'd prefer, we have some alternative programs you might want to consider. One idea is to publicize the event as a "discussion" with an emphasis on interaction. We could let people know to have questions/topics prepared (perhaps submitted in writing) beforehand and let things run themselves. If you'd like, we could have a moderator/discussion leader to keep things rolling. Another idea is to make the presentation an interview. We can arrange for someone to sit down with you and pose questions in a conversational setting. I was fortunate enough to sit in when Jon Lebkowsky interviewed you for Fringe Ware Review, and thought the interaction was fascinating. If you like this idea, we might approach Jon about being the interviewer, as he probably wouldn't mind making the short trip from Austin to Houston with you. We also have plenty of folks here in town who would be great for the job. Finally, after reading the Boardwatch profile on you by Jack Rickard and Gary Funk (August 1993), I thought it might be helpful to toss out some topics which might be of interest to our group, regardless of the format. These are just suggestions. Please feel free to talk about any, all or none of them. If there is anything you'd like *not* to focus on (if we choose the non-lecture format), please let me know and I will be sure that we try to de-emphasize them. Here are the things the jumped off the page at me as obvious themes/discussion areas: * The history of FidoNet * FidoNet Politics/Governance * The Future of FidoNet * FidoNet as a tool for Activism * Virtual Community * Commercialization of FidoNet * FidoNet as a Model for Anarchic Social Systems * Content Regulation (or lack thereof) * Counter/Subculture and Cyberspace (hackers, homosexuals, evangelists, etc.) Well, obviously, these are pretty much off the top of my head. Please let me know how they sound to you. Thaks for your participation. I know there is alot of excitment brewing about your visit. On behalf of EFH I want to thank you for taking the time to volunteer. I hope we can make your stay in Houston an enjoyable one. If you'd rather do correspond via voice, you can reach me during the workd day at 1-800-999-0529. If I am out of my office, I'd be happy to return your call. Otherwise, e-mail is just as good. --------------------------------------------------------------- Edward Cavazos, Attorney at Law | polekat@well.sf.ca.us 1000 Louisiana, Suite 1500 | ecavazos@blkbox.com Houston, TX 77002 | (713) 237-3169 From tomj@fnord.tlg.org Fri Mar 18 14:20:27 1994 Received: from tlg.org by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA04842; Fri, 18 Mar 94 14:19:50 -0800 Received: from localhost by fnord.tlg.org (8.3/wps.com-hackery) id OAA16372; Fri, 18 Mar 1994 14:16:52 -0800 Received: from fido.wps.com by fnord.tlg.org (8.3/wps.com-hackery) id JAA00134; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 09:24:30 -0800 Received: by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA01830; Mon, 14 Mar 94 21:13:38 -0800 From: flesh@fido.wps.com (Flesh) Message-Id: <9403150513.AA01830@wps.com> Subject: A bookeeper To: tomj@tlg.org Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 21:13:37 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 164 Sender: tomj@fnord.tlg.org Status: OR A KAren Schiller w/ references from Elain Buchholt called in regards to doing bookeeping. She can be reached at 550-0637- evenings, weekendsor 9-10am weekdays. From mykel Mon Mar 21 11:00:06 1994 Received: by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA09125; Mon, 21 Mar 94 11:00:05 -0800 From: mykel (Mykel Board) Message-Id: <9403211900.AA09125@wps.com> Subject: My Columns To: tomj@fido.wps.com (Tom Jennings) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 11:00:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9403211823.AA08867@wps.com> from "Tom Jennings" at Mar 21, 94 10:23:45 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 668 Status: OR Tom, I'd be glad to let you have my columns for archiving. Problem is, that when I've tried to do an ASCII upload over WPS, I get something called "a type ahead" error, and it cuts off the text. Sometimes it even misses some lines. Should I set my character/line pacing slower or what? I'm using X/on X/off, and I thought that would take care of it. Alternatively, I could zip each column and upload it (Kermit/Xmodem), but you'd have to tell me how to do it step by step to your system. It seems to be different from system to system. (Come to think of it, I would even have to zip the column, I could just upload it-- if I know how. --Mykel From geoperry@crl.com Mon Mar 21 18:11:14 1994 Received: from crl.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA10606; Mon, 21 Mar 94 18:11:09 -0800 Received: by crl.crl.com id AA24401 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for Tom Jennings ); Mon, 21 Mar 1994 18:10:22 -0800 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 18:03:48 -0800 (PST) From: George JP Perry Subject: Re: DefCon II To: Tom Jennings In-Reply-To: <9403211828.AA08921@wps.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Mon, 21 Mar 1994, Tom Jennings wrote: > > So who is all going? > > I am going. Other than that, I have no plans. Though a trip via the > Little Ale'Inn is worth the effort. It's only a slight detour. I hope to have funds by then. In other news: I tried to send you email, hoping to enlist your aid in learning how to navigate internet. I recall your stewardship of ch@os, and hoped that you'd remember Juggler Vain and help him/me. I've a specific project in mind, which is finding data-bases of technical journals, with particular emphasis on process-control and thermo-forming of plastics. I'm so naive, I figure that merely watching you whilst taking notes would get me the start that I need. Still hopeful, then, of your guidance... jv From jim@pacific.pacific.net Tue Mar 22 10:13:25 1994 Received: from pacific.pacific.net by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA13331; Tue, 22 Mar 94 10:13:21 -0800 Received: from localhost (jim@localhost) by pacific.pacific.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) id KAA09625 for tomj@wps.com; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 10:10:21 -0800 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 10:10:21 -0800 From: Jim Persky Message-Id: <199403221810.KAA09625@pacific.pacific.net> To: tomj@wps.com Subject: Please call Status: OR Hi Tom I spoke with you earlier about possible consulting junk. We are Pacific Internet, one of the unmentioned Little Garden members in Mendocino County. I'm up to about 75 customers and it's growing. Still not making any money, but having fun just the same. I want to set up and HTTP server but don't know shit or have any time for a few months. Would you be interested in a possible consulting gig where you could set it up, and give us some pointers on how to add shit to it. We want to tell the world about what we have up here - wine, drugs, wild sex, sheep, etc.... Please let me know - Thanks JIm Persky Pacific Internet (707) 468 1005 From tomj@fnord.tlg.org Mon Mar 28 14:09:09 1994 Received: from tlg.org by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA03360; Mon, 28 Mar 94 14:09:06 -0800 Received: from localhost by fnord.tlg.org (8.3/wps.com-hackery) id OAA18086; Mon, 28 Mar 1994 14:06:53 -0800 Received: from relay2.UU.NET by fnord.tlg.org (8.3/wps.com-hackery) id WAA01505; Thu, 24 Mar 1994 22:26:42 -0800 Received: from uucp1.uu.net by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAwisf29483; Fri, 25 Mar 94 01:26:54 -0500 Received: from lantimes.UUCP by uucp1.uu.net with UUCP/RMAIL ; Fri, 25 Mar 1994 01:26:55 -0500 Received: from cc:Mail by lantimes.lantimes.com id AA764577079 Thu, 24 Mar 94 22:31:19 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 94 22:31:19 From: lantimes!kevin_angus@uunet.UU.NET Encoding: 2335 Text Message-Id: <9402247645.AA764577079@lantimes.lantimes.com> To: uunet!fnord.tlg.org!tomj@uunet.UU.NET, kevin_angus@lantimes.com, lantimes!kevin_angus@uunet.UU.NET Subject: Re: info needed Sender: tomj@fnord.tlg.org Status: OR I somehow never got this information... could you fill it out and return to me? Should I give this to Becca Thomas instead? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Tom, could you help me get wcmh.com setup as a new domain? call me 801-272-1682 we'll talk prices... ******************************************* T H E L I T T L E G A R D E N return this ENTIRE form to: admin@tlg.org (You can delete the dashed line above and everything preceding it.) (You might want to keep a copy for yourself) Please fill any ***'ed items below (ie. information I don't have) and change any incorrect items, and mail it back to me. Some of it will be posted to a contact list available to little garden members; the rest of it I'll keep private. ---------- Please don't remove anything below this line ---------- Your Little Garden POP will be: RGNet, Inc, suite 3075, 444 Market Street, S.F. 94111 Circuit number: *** 83KADA945485-001 You've been assigned 8-bit subnet: 140.174.133 For routing purposes, the address of the Little Garden router/gateway ("next hop") is: 140.174.122.2 *You* tell *us* what the first address is on your end (eg. your SLIP or PPP port that's the gateway to your network): *** (NA) PUBLIC INFORMATION: Company/site name (optional): West Coast McGraw-Hill Person/contact name: *** kevin_angus@lantimes.com (Kevin Angus) Voice phone to contact for problems: Kevin Angus Domain name you'll register: wcmh.com person@domain to send mail to: postmaster@wcmh.com TECHNICAL INFORMATION: Do you want SLIP or PPP? *** PPP UNLISTED INFORMATION: Mailing address (for billing): Company/person if different: Bob Mulvey Street, etc: 1900 O'Farrell Suite 200 City, etc: San Mateo, CA 94403 (Other info required? Add here.) *** -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org modem-faq@tlg.org Modem-based service Frequently Asked Questions. ll-faq@tlg.org 56K/T1 service Frequently Asked Questions. order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire admin@tlg.org Actual humans. Web: http://tlg.org/ From pozar@kumr.lns.com Mon Mar 28 15:14:39 1994 Received: from kumr.lns.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA03511; Mon, 28 Mar 94 15:14:34 -0800 Received: by kumr.lns.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.3) id ; Mon, 28 Mar 94 15:14 PST Message-Id: From: pozar@kumr.lns.com (Tim Pozar) Subject: Platforms (fwd) To: tomj@wps.com Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 15:14:32 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1550 Status: OR John Higdon wrote: From zygot.ati.com!john Mon Mar 28 15:05:00 1994 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 28 Mar 94 15:04 PST From: john@zygot.ati.com (John Higdon) Reply-To: John Higdon Organization: Green Hills and Cows X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.1.2 7/11/90) To: Tim Pozar Subject: Platforms Hi Sorry to take so long to respond, but this AM project is in the final boarding process. In fact, I'm here now. Anyway, all you need for the VM device is a 386 machine (25 MHz, 100 Meg or so), a Dialogic card such as the one you described, and software. I have all the software you need. It will run under DOS and you can use all four lines simultaneously if you like. The lines can be configured the same or differently (such as a back door for message retrieval or other purposes. I will need to know the flow for each type of service you are doing. If you like, you can dump the parts on me and I will configure the thing and hand you a working device (in some ways this is easier than walking someone through installation over the phone). If you want to draw up a flow, you can fax it to 408 264-4407. Or we can discuss it on the phone. -- John Higdon | P.O. Box 7648 | +1 408 264 4115 | FAX: john@ati.com | San Jose, CA 95150 | 10288 0 700 FOR-A-MOO | +1 408 264 4407 -- Internet: pozar@kumr.lns.com Snail: Tim Pozar / KKSF / 77 Maiden Lane / San Francisco CA 94108 / USA POTS: +1 415 788 2022 Radio: KC6GNJ / KAE6247 From zoo@aggregate.com Mon Mar 28 21:36:36 1994 Received: from sol.aggregate.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA04837; Mon, 28 Mar 94 21:36:32 -0800 Received: from neptune by aggregate.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA15332; Mon, 28 Mar 94 23:36:26 CST Message-Id: <9403290536.AA15332@aggregate.com> From: david d `zoo' zuhn Organization: Aggregate Computing, Inc -- +1 612 546 5579 To: tomj@wps.com Subject: Sprint contact? Reply-To: david d `zoo' zuhn X-Punishment: Teacher is not a leper Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 23:36:02 CST Sender: zoo@aggregate.com Content-Length: 469 Status: OR Howdy.... I'm somewhat involved in an outfit called Skypoint out here in Minnesota, and they're in need of a decent IP provider. They've had no luck in talking to anyone from Sprint, so I was wondering if I could get the name and phone # of your Sprint contact person, to see if we could get something rolling here in the Cities. tx -- david d `zoo' zuhn | zoo@aggregate.com | I remember it all as if it really happened.... | From mykel Tue Mar 29 08:14:19 1994 Received: by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA06797; Tue, 29 Mar 94 08:14:19 -0800 From: mykel (Mykel Board) Message-Id: <9403291614.AA06797@wps.com> Subject: Downloading To: tomj@fido.wps.com (Tom Jennings) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 08:14:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9401112028.AA02461@wps.com> from "Tom Jennings" at Jan 11, 94 12:27:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 240 Status: OR Tom, How do I download a file from my space. I got it there aok from gopher, but I have no idea how to get it into my own computer. I tried the commands "download" and "xmodem" but they don't work. What's the process? --Myke; From aranita@muc.de Wed Mar 30 23:21:48 1994 Received: from colin.muc.de by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA14689; Wed, 30 Mar 94 23:15:56 -0800 Received: from wn.muc.de ([193.174.4.106]) by colin.muc.de with SMTP id <135956>; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 09:14:13 +0200 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 19:08:51 +0200 From: Werner Niedermeier Subject: Re: FIDO-CON To: Tom Jennings X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Status: OR Hello Tom, >Yes it did -- I'm having a solid month of panics, every day, about our >main feed to the Internet via Sprint. It's been down 18 hours in the >last week. Sheesh! OOPS... Hope they fill fix their problem... I found a good PPP-Software called Chamaeleon and it seems working - the only problem ist, this software only works with Windows (ARGH!)... I checked another software from Wollongong, called "Pathway" and seems this thing is running under plain DOS! Now I had to order a "Standleitung" (don4t know the English word, it4s a line which is always open) and so my users are able to telnet, ftp and do more Internet-things from within my BBS. FIDO isn4t anymore the thing it was 8 years ago as I started... powerplays, cracy *C4s and such things more :-( >I will call a travel agent this week to find about prices. Sorry for the >delay! No problem - as I know you are fine and there weren4t big technical problems, I feel good :-) Another thing: Do you have informations about the BBS-CON in Atlanta? I wish to participate (if I will have enough money ) but I don4t have any information about this CON. Ok, hope, all will work fine, have a nice day and greetings from the (momentary) sunny Munich. \/\/erner From jonl@io.com Thu Mar 31 06:07:02 1994 Received: from illuminati.io.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA16163; Thu, 31 Mar 94 06:06:59 -0800 Received: from localhost by illuminati.io.com (8.6.5/PERFORMIX-0.9/08-16-92) id IAA00764; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 08:05:59 -0600 From: jonl@io.com (Jon K Lebkowsky) Message-Id: <199403311405.IAA00764@illuminati.io.com> Subject: tshirt design! To: tomj@wps.com, hlr@well.com, sandy@actlab.rtf.utexas.edu Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 08:05:57 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 262 Status: OR EFF-Austin wants to create a special tshirt to sell at the Virtual Communities workshop on 4/16...since you three are the focus of the event, I thought ya might have some ideas re. what image to include... in fact, do ya have images/pix to provide??? thx! jonl From MQB8130@ACFcluster.NYU.EDU Thu Mar 31 11:48:24 1994 Received: from AXP2.ACF.NYU.EDU by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA16994; Thu, 31 Mar 94 11:48:10 -0800 Received: from ACFcluster.NYU.EDU by ACFcluster.NYU.EDU (PMDF V4.2-13 #5342) id <01HAMJ3R1EHWG0UMTY@ACFcluster.NYU.EDU>; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 14:43:28 EST Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 14:43:28 -0500 (EST) From: Mykel --He's Right-- Board Subject: Mykel's xmodem problems To: MQB8130+TOM@ACFcluster.NYU.EDU Message-Id: <01HAMJ3R1EHYG0UMTY@ACFcluster.NYU.EDU> X-Vms-To: IN%TOM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: OR Tom, I've been trying to download a file from my space at WPS.COM using the SX command. but I get about 80 blocks into it and I get a "bad block" error message on this end and then gibberish on the screen. AFter that, I'm stuck and have to drop carrier and recall to establish again. Any idea what's going on? Oh yeah, I'm also setting up a homocore show at ABC NO RIO for Stonewall 25. Should be fun? --Mykel From wicinski@polyp.barn.com Fri Apr 1 07:36:09 1994 Received: from polyp.barn.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA20752; Fri, 1 Apr 94 07:36:01 -0800 Received: from localhost.barn.com by polyp.barn.com via SMTP (920330.SGI/mooooo) for tomj@wps.com id AA26920; Fri, 1 Apr 94 07:35:58 -0800 To: tomj@wps.com (Tom Jennings) Subject: Re: if you are around... In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 01 Apr 1994 01:54:13 PST." <9404010954.AA19577@wps.com> Date: Fri, 01 Apr 1994 07:35:57 -0800 Message-Id: <26918.765214557@polyp.barn.com> From: Tim Wicinski Status: OR ------ Tom Jennings, <9404010954.AA19577@wps.com> writes: You must supply the line, and a pair of DSUs. The latter because you'll want a matched pair, so that you can do remote tests, which are all proprietary. good. I don't understand... this sounds like "routing". A device (bridge, etc) attaches to the TLG ethernet. It must be commanded, "of all the traffic on this ethernet, send only address (subnet) to the serial port side". If it will do this, via telnet, I assume it means it's a router? no, a bridge listens to all ethernet packets, and at first forwards. then once it learns ethernet addresses, it will only send traffic destined to the other side. A T1-capable router is about $1500. A bridge is what, $900? we have a pair of bridges for $800. if we need two routers (one on the TLG side, and one on our side) then this cost is $3000 vs. $800. See why this concerns us? That'll save a bundle on monthlies! yea - ever heard about buying HDSL -> v.35 modems ? adamfast found this out and it sounds cool. if you're in the same CO you can buy a LADD circuit for $20/month, and then two HDSL modems for $5K. the initial price is high, but the LADD circuit is cheap and i think the break-even point is 1 year (where the T1 installation/monthly equals HDSL boxes and LADD monthlies). he is trying it, and will report back. tim From phrack@well.sf.ca.us Fri Apr 1 11:00:36 1994 Received: from well.sf.ca.us by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA21305; Fri, 1 Apr 94 11:00:21 -0800 Received: (from phrack@localhost) by well.sf.ca.us (8.6.8/8.6.6) id PAA05280; Thu, 31 Mar 1994 15:22:12 -0800 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 15:22:12 -0800 From: Chris Goggans Message-Id: <199403312322.PAA05280@well.sf.ca.us> To: phrack-list@well.sf.ca.us Subject: P45-28 Status: OR ==Phrack Magazine== Volume Five, Issue Forty-Five, File 28 of 28 PWN PWN PNW PNW PNW PNW PNW PNW PNW PNW PNW PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN Phrack World News PWN PWN PWN PWN Compiled by Datastream Cowboy PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN PWN Paramount's Hack Attack March 3, 1994 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Reuter News Wire Though the minds of Paramount execs have surely been n potential whackings, computer hacking was the chief focus of execs Bob Jaffe and John Goldwyn last week. The execs got Par to pay a low six-figure fee against mid-six figures to Johnathan Littman for the rights to make a movie from his Sept. 12 LA Times Magazine article "The Last Hacker," and major names are lining up to be involved. It's the story of Kevin Lee Poulsen, a skilled computer hacker who was so inventive he once disabled the phone system of KIIS_FM so he could be the 102nd caller and win the $50,000 Porsche giveaway. Poulsen was caught and has been in jail for the last three years, facing more than 100 years in prison. It was a vicious tug of war between Touchstone, which was trying to purchase it for "City Slickers" director Ron Underwood. Littman, meanwhile, has remained tight with the underground community of hackers as he researches his book. That takes its tool. Among other things, the mischief meisters have already changed his voice mail greeting to render an obscene proposal. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hacker Attempts To Chase Cupid Away February 10, 1994 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ UPI News Sources Two bachelors who rented a billboard to find the perfect mate said Thursday they had fallen victim to a computer hacker who sabotaged their voice mail message and made it X-rated. Steeg Anderson said the original recording that informed callers how they may get hold of the men was changed to a "perverted" sexually suggestive message. "We are getting calls from all over the country," he said. "So we were shocked when we heard the message. We don't want people to get the wrong idea." "It's rare, but we've seen this kind of thing before," said Sandy Hale, a Pac Bell spokeswoman. "There is a security procedure that can prevent this from happening, but many people simply don't use it." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wire Pirates March 1994 ~~~~~~~~~~~~ by Paul Wallich (Scientific American) (Page 90) Consumers and entrepreneurs crowd onto the information highway, where electronic bandits and other hazards await them. [Scientific American's latest articles about the perils of Cyberspace. Sound bytes galore from Dorothy Denning, Peter Neumann, Donn Parker, Mark Abene, Gene Spafford and others. Much better than their last attempt to cover such a thing back in 1991.] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AT&T Warns Businesses December 8, 1993 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Business Wire Sources AT&T urges businesses to guard against increased risk of toll-fraud attempts by hackers, or toll-call thieves, during the upcoming holiday season. Last year nationwide toll-fraud attempts increased by about 50 percent during the Christmas week. Hackers "break into" PBXs or voice-mail systems, obtain passwords or access to outside lines, and then sell or use the information to make illegal international phone calls. Toll fraud cost American businesses more than $2 billion in 1993. "Hackers count on being able to steal calls undetected while businesses are closed during a long holiday weekend," says Larry Watt, director of AT&T's Toll Fraud Prevention Center. "Tis the season to be wary." AT&T is the industry leader in helping companies to prevent toll fraud. Businesses that want more information on preventative measures can request AT&T's free booklet, "Tips on Safeguarding Your Company's Telecom Network," by calling 1-800-NET-SAFE. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sadomasochists Meet Cyberpunks At An L.A. Party June 14, 1993 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ by Jessica Seigel (Chicago Tribune) Sadomasochists meet the cyberpunks. Leather meet hypernormalcy. Body piercing meet network surfing (communicating by computer). It was a night for mingling among the subcultures to share their different approaches to messing with mind and body. The recent party at the S&M club "Club Fuck" was organized by "Boing Boing," a zine that focuses on the kinetic, futuristic world of the new frontier known as cyberspace. This place doesn't exist in a physical location, but anyone can visit from their home computer by hooking into vast electronic networks. A blindfolded man dressed in a jock strap and high heeled boots stood on stage while helpers pinned flashing Christmas lights to his flesh with thin needles. Then a man with deer antlers tied to his forehead whipped him. The crowd of mostly twentysomethings who came to the club because of the cyber theme observed with stony expressions. Chris Gardner, 24, an architecture student who studied virtual reality in school, covered his eyes with his hand. No one, really was "fitting in." The sadomasochists looked curiously at the very-average-looking cyber fans, who openly gawked back at the black leather, nudity and body piercing. Sharing subcultures can be so much fun. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Intruder Alert On Internet February 4, 1994 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ AP News Sources Intruders have broken into the giant Internet computer network and users are being advised to protect themselves by changing their passwords. The breaks-ins may jeopardize the work of tens of thousands of computer users, warned the Computer Emergency Response Team, based at Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh. "Intruders have already captured access information for tens of thousands of systems across the Internet," said an emergency response team sent out on the network late Thursday. Passwords were obtained by the intruders using a "Trojan horse program," so called because it can enter the main computer for some legitimate purpose, but with coding that lets it remain after that purpose is accomplished. The program then records the first 128 keystrokes when someone else connects to the Internet, and the illegal user later dials in and receives that information. The first keystrokes of a user generally contain such information as name and password of the user. Once they know that the intruders can then sign on as the person whose password they have stolen, read that person's files and change them if they wish. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Harding Email Compromised by Journalists February 27, 1994 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ by C.W. Nevius (SF Chronicle) In another example of the media circus that has dogged Tonya Harding, a number of American journalists have apparently obtained the secret computer code numbers that would allow them to read Harding's personal electronic mail at the Winter Olympics. No reporters have admitted reading Harding's electronic mail, but the apparent access to private communications has caused concern among those covering the Games. The Olympic computer system is one of the most popular communications devices at the Games. Any member of the Olympic family -- media, athlete or Olympic official -- can message anyone else from any of several hundred computer terminals all over the Olympic venues. The flaw in the system is that it is not especially difficult to break the personal code. Every accredited member of the Olympic family is given an identification number. It is written on both the front and back of the credential everyone wears at the Games. Anyone who has a face-to-face meeting with an athlete would be able to pick up the accreditation number, if the person knew where to look. Each person is also given a "Secret" password to access the communication system. At the outset, the password was comprised of the digits corresponding to that person's birth date. Although Olympic officials advised everyone to choose their own password, Harding apparently never got around to doing so. Harding's initial password would have been 1112, because her birthday is the 11th of December. Although none of the writers at the Olympics has admitted reading Harding's personal electronic mail, it would be difficult, if not impossible, to determine if anyone did any actual snooping. There are no records kept of who signs on to the computer from any particular terminal. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Reality Check January 1994 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ by Doug Fine (Spin) (Page 62) I ask accused hacker Kevin Lee Poulsen if, as he approaches three years in jail without trial, he has any regrets about his computer-related activities. Without missing a beat, and breaking a media silence that began with his first arrest in 1988, he answers: "I regret shopping at Hughes Supermarket. I'm thinking of organizing a high-tech boycott." Poulsen is referring to the site of his 1991 bust in Van Nuys, California. There, between the aisles of foodstuffs, two zealous bag-boys -- their resolve boosted by a recent episode of Unsolved Mysteries that featured the alleged criminal -- jumped the 25-year-old, wrestled him to the ground, and handed the suspect over to the security agents waiting outside. Poulsen still kicks himself for returning to Hughes a second time that spring evening. According to court documents, a former hacker crony of Poulsen's, threatened with his own prison sentence, had tipped off the FBI that Poulsen might be stopping by. What, I ask him, had he needed so badly that he felt compelled to return to a supermarket at midnight? "Do you even have to ask?" he says. "Condoms, of course." [A very different Kevin Poulsen story. Get it and read it.] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Key Evidence in Computer Case Disallowed January 4, 1994 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Los Angeles Staff Writers (Los Angeles Times) (Page B3) U.S. District Judge Ronald Whyte in San Jose said computer tapes found in a storage locker rented by Kevin Lee Poulsen should not have been examined by prosecutors without a search warrant and cannot be used as evidence. Whyte had ruled the tapes admissible last month but changed his mind, saying he had overlooked evidence that should have put a police officer on notice of Poulsen's privacy rights. In addition to illegal possession of classified government secrets, Poulsen faces 13 other charges, including eavesdroping on telephone conversations, and tapping into Pacific Bell's computer and an unclassified military computer network. He could be sentenced to 85 years in prison if convicted of all charges. His lawyer, Paul Meltzer of Santa Cruz, said the sole evidence of the espionage charge is contained on one of the storage locker tapes. Meltzer said a government analyst found that the tape contained a 1987 order, classified secret, concerning a military exercise. Poulsen, who lived in Menlo Park at the time of his arrest in the San Jose case, worked in the mid-1980s as a consultant testing Pentagon computer security. He was arrested in 1988 on some of the hacking charges, disappeared and was picked up in April, 1991, after a tip prompted by a television show. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hacker to ask charges be dropped January 4, 1994 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ UPI News Sources An attorney for a former Silicon Valley computer expert accused of raiding confidential electronic government files said Tuesday he will ask to have charges dismissed now that a federal judge has thrown out the government's chief evidence. Attorney Peter Leeming said the government's case against Kevin L. Poulsen is in disarray following a ruling suppressing computer tapes and other evidence seized from a rented storage locker in 1988. ''We're ready to go to trial in the case, and actually we're looking forward to it,'' Leeming said. Poulsen is charged with espionage and other offenses stemming from his hacking into military and Pacific Bell telephone computers. The government alleges that Poulsen illegally obtained confidential military computer codes and confidential information on court-ordered wiretaps. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Password is Loopholes March 1, 1994 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ by Joshua Quittner (Newsday) (Page 61) You'd think that Polytechnic University, in Brooklyn, one of the finer technical schools in the country, would know how to safeguard its computer system against hacker intrusions. And you'd think the same of New York University's Courant Institute, which hosts the mathematical and computer science departments. But a teenage Brooklyn hacker, who calls himself Iceman, and some of his friends say they invaded the schools Internet-connected computers and snatched the passwords of 103 students. Internet break-ins have been a national news story lately, with reports that unknown intruders have purloined more than 10,000 passwords in a burst of activity during recent months. The Federal Bureau of Investigation is investigating, since so many "federal-interest computers" are attached to the wide-open Internet and since it is a crime to possess and use other peoples' passwords. Experts now believe that a group of young hackers who call themselves The Posse are responsible for the break-ins, though who they are and what they're after is unclear. Some people believe the crew is merely collecting passwords for bragging rights, while others suspect more insidious motives. Their approach is more sophisticated, from a technical standpoint, than Iceman's. But the result is the same. Now Iceman, who's 18, has nothing to do with The Posse, never heard of it, in fact. He hangs with a group of budding New York City hackers who call themselves MPI. Iceman told me it was simple to steal 103 passwords on the universities systems since each password was a common word or name. What did Iceman and company do with the passwords? He said mostly, they enjoy reading other people's files and e-mail. "Every once in a while," he said, "you get something interesting." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ A Rape In Cyberspace December 21, 1993 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ by Julian Dibbell (Village Voice) (Page 36) [ Some guy made my MUD character do bad things in a public area. And all the other MUDders could do was sit and watch! WAHHHHH. Get a fucking life, people. Wait, let me restate that; Get a FUCKING REAL LIFE!] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hacking Goes Legit February 7, 1993 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ by Ann Steffora and Martin Cheek (Industry Week) (Page 43) Corporations ARE using "tiger teams" and less glamorous methods to check computer security. [Uh, yeah. Sure they are. Hey, is that an accountant in your dumpster? Better tuck in that tie dude. Don't forget your clipboard! I will put a computer security audit by me, or by anyone from the hacker community, against a computer security audit done by ANY of the following: Coopers & Lybrand, Deloitte & Touche, Arthur Andersen or Price Waterhouse. It's no contest. These people are NOT computer people. Period. Get the hell out of the computer business and go do my fucking taxes.] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From pozar@kumr.lns.com Fri Apr 1 17:18:40 1994 Received: from kumr.lns.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA22564; Fri, 1 Apr 94 17:18:37 -0800 Received: by kumr.lns.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.3) id ; Fri, 1 Apr 94 17:18 PST Message-Id: From: pozar@kumr.lns.com (Tim Pozar) Subject: kumr's and my numbers are changing... To: gnu@toad.com, mark@path.net, fogcity!Bill.Essex, shelter!Dan.Sherman, stemish@kumr.lns.com (Brian Clayton), kamins@kumr.lns.com (Scot Kamins), shibumi@joes.garage.com, sommers@kumr.lns.com (William Sommers), fen@imagine.comedia.com, steph@kumr.lns.com (Stephanie Wright (KC6VIT)), matisse@well.sf.ca.us, tomj@wps.com, klinger@kumr.lns.com (Carol Klinger), rcoryell@well.sf.ca.us, grossman@cygnus.com, miken@kumr.lns.com (Mike Newman), kreter@kumr.lns.com (Dan Kreter), frankn@kumr.lns.com (Frank Nellis) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 17:18:27 -0800 (PST) Cc: philkane@kumr.lns.com (Phil Kane), tlc@kumr.lns.com (Ed Johnson), ericks@well.sf.ca.us, amyf@kumr.lns.com (Amy Freundlich), katehora@kumr.lns.com (Kate Hora) Content-Type: text Content-Length: 470 Status: OR KUMR will be moved from the Vermont Street digs to the new house on 45th Ave on April 14th. Expect that service will be nil for the day as I will be moving and twisting wires. After the 14th the new phone number for KUMR will be 665-3793. My new voice number will be 665-3790. Tim -- Internet: pozar@kumr.lns.com Snail: Tim Pozar / KKSF / 77 Maiden Lane / San Francisco CA 94108 / USA POTS: +1 415 788 2022 Radio: KC6GNJ / KAE6247 From randy@psg.com Fri Apr 1 20:40:43 1994 Received: from rip.psg.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA00359; Fri, 1 Apr 94 20:40:41 -0800 Received: by rip.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0pmxVk-00030MC; Fri, 1 Apr 94 20:40 PST Message-Id: Date: Fri, 1 Apr 94 20:40 PST From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) To: tomj@wps.com (Tom Jennings) Subject: visit next week? References: <9404020317.AA22986@wps.com> Status: OR > How about if I come up Tuesday, likely afternoon? Leave Thu very early? Any chance of Wed-Fri? Have guests from Cambridge Mon-Wed early morn. From jonl@io.com Sat Apr 2 08:17:29 1994 Received: from illuminati.io.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA01300; Sat, 2 Apr 94 08:17:26 -0800 Received: from localhost by illuminati.io.com (8.6.5/PERFORMIX-0.9/08-16-92) id KAA21614; Sat, 2 Apr 1994 10:16:23 -0600 From: jonl@io.com (Jon K Lebkowsky) Message-Id: <199404021616.KAA21614@illuminati.io.com> Subject: Re: tshirt design! To: tomj@wps.com (Tom Jennings) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 10:16:22 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <9404021608.AA01273@wps.com> from "Tom Jennings" at Apr 2, 94 08:08:53 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 671 Status: OR > > EFF-Austin wants to create a special tshirt to sell at the Virtual > > Communities workshop on 4/16...since you three are the focus of the > > event, I thought ya might have some ideas re. what image to include... > > in fact, do ya have images/pix to provide??? > > I have a weirdo picture, but my primitive computer graphic system keeps > blowing up. I'll get it to you today? My sched sucks. It's a GIF. Is > that OK? Is size important? Can you scale it? Etc... Tom, can you put it where I can FTP it? I think we need something pdq since the event's around the corner... I can scale and I have a 600dpi printer. Whatever I do will be black & white... thx! Jon From rogerk@queernet.org Sat Apr 2 12:05:43 1994 Received: from unpc.queernet.org by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA02063; Sat, 2 Apr 94 12:05:37 -0800 Received: by unpc.queernet.org (Smail3.1.28.1 #10) id m0pnBzd-000MXzC; Sat, 2 Apr 94 12:08 PST Message-Id: To: tomj@wps.com (Tom Jennings) Subject: Re: Modem In-Reply-To: Your message of Sat, 02 Apr 94 12:02:09 -0800. <9404022002.AA02058@wps.com> Date: Sat, 02 Apr 94 12:08:32 PST From: rogerk@queernet.org Status: OR Things are going fine. Bill me at the $130 rate. One of the SLIP/PPP differences that *doesn't* affect us so far, of course, is the ability to run non-IP protocols over it. When I move the SLIP link, I shouldn't really need to make any other changes, other than internal routing, plus any appropriate name service changes (optional), right? --- ROGER B.A. KLORESE rogerk@QueerNet.ORG 2215-R Market Street #576 San Francisco, CA 94114 +1 415 ALL-ARFF "There is only one real blasphemy: the refusal of joy." -- Paul Rudnick From flesh Sat Apr 2 13:11:05 1994 Received: by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA02390; Sat, 2 Apr 94 13:11:04 -0800 From: flesh (Flesh) Message-Id: <9404022111.AA02390@wps.com> Subject: Re: w00f list To: tomj@fido.wps.com (Tom Jennings) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 13:11:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9404022039.AA02285@wps.com> from "Tom Jennings" at Apr 2, 94 12:39:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 377 Status: OR > Cool. You handled it perfectly with those idiots. > > Hey, I gotta get you a check RSN. More money too. I'm blowing off today, > and Sunday I'll be gone all day long... can you wait until Monday? No problem. Flesh recreation activity #331. Go to a really HAPPY type place. Say the Warf, or Great America. Bring a boom box with you, and play nothing but Joy Division. From flesh Sat Apr 2 13:15:49 1994 Received: by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA02436; Sat, 2 Apr 94 13:15:48 -0800 From: flesh (Flesh) Message-Id: <9404022115.AA02436@wps.com> Subject: Re: little green monkeys come flying out your ass (fwd) To: tomj@fido.wps.com (Tom Jennings) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 13:15:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9404021952.AA01966@wps.com> from "Tom Jennings" at Apr 2, 94 11:52:33 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 286 Status: OR > just picking on people for the fun of it is your business, but it > becomes mine when I get flak for it. What's really funny about this, is that the only people that I've done this to, are people that would get so rabid-frothing mad. In other words Rush Limbaugh, and Rangers. From jonl@io.com Sat Apr 2 13:50:14 1994 Received: from illuminati.io.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA02536; Sat, 2 Apr 94 13:50:11 -0800 Received: from localhost by illuminati.io.com (8.6.5/PERFORMIX-0.9/08-16-92) id PAA26960; Sat, 2 Apr 1994 15:49:08 -0600 From: jonl@io.com (Jon K Lebkowsky) Message-Id: <199404022149.PAA26960@illuminati.io.com> Subject: Re: tshirt design! To: tomj@wps.com (Tom Jennings) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 15:49:07 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <9404021701.AA01424@wps.com> from "Tom Jennings" at Apr 2, 94 09:01:02 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 492 Status: OR > > Tom, can you put it where I can FTP it? I think we need something > > pdq since the event's around the corner... I can scale and I have > > a 600dpi printer. Whatever I do will be black & white... > > SOrry for the delay. I'll explain wghen I get there. I'm working about > 1E99 hours a week! > > Is later today OK? Right now I'm at our POP messing with Sprintlink... > > -- > Tom Jennings -- tomj@wps.com -- World Power Systems -- San Francisco, Calif. > Sure! No hurry... jon From server@ora.com Sat Apr 2 16:30:38 1994 Received: from amber.ora.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA02878; Sat, 2 Apr 94 16:30:30 -0800 Received: by amber.ora.com (5.65c/Spike-2.1) id AA15115; Sat, 2 Apr 1994 13:30:10 -0500 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 13:30:10 -0500 Message-Id: <199404021814.KAA13858@rock> Errors-To: gnn-list@ora.com Reply-To: gnnlist@ora.com Originator: gnn-announce@gnn.com Sender: gnn-announce@ora.com Precedence: bulk From: gnnlist@ora.com (The GNN Subscription Account) To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: A New GNN X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: To subscribe, please send mail to info@gnn.com Status: OR A NEW GNN Thank you for subscribing to GNN. Because you are a registered user, we can inform you of changes that affect how you use GNN. GNN has changed, and you need a new URL to access it. That URL is given at the bottom of this message. 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Dale Dougherty Publisher, Global Network Navigator -- The Global Network Navigator Subscription Account * gnnlist@gnn.com GNN HomePage URL * http://nearnet.gnn.com/GNN-ORA.html 800-998-9938 (US/Canada) 707-829-0515 (all others) 707-829-0104 (FAX) From randy@psg.com Sat Apr 2 17:51:36 1994 Received: from rip.psg.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA03198; Sat, 2 Apr 94 17:51:33 -0800 Received: by rip.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0pnHLW-00030TC; Sat, 2 Apr 94 17:51 PST Message-Id: Date: Sat, 2 Apr 94 17:51 PST From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) To: tomj@wps.com (Tom Jennings) Subject: Re: PGP References: <9404030148.AA03173@wps.com> Status: OR > Hello? Where have you nbeen all these years? Lots of places, but clearly not enough of them. > Yup, but the interface sucks so bad it's almost useless The current version is sufferable by UNIX types, i.e. me, and I managed to snag an Emacs cover (and Emacs is my mail agent). As I exchange passwords and things with folk, I really like it. randy From pozar@kumr.lns.com Sat Apr 2 19:19:31 1994 Received: from kumr.lns.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA03399; Sat, 2 Apr 94 19:19:24 -0800 Received: by kumr.lns.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.3) id ; Sat, 2 Apr 94 19:19 PST Message-Id: From: pozar@kumr.lns.com (Tim Pozar) Subject: Re: The whole CIX concept is flawed (fwd) To: tomj@wps.com Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 19:19:22 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text Content-Length: 7930 Status: OR Karl Denninger wrote: From lists.psi.com!com-priv-forw Sat Apr 2 19:11:21 1994 Message-Id: From: karl@mcs.com (Karl Denninger) Subject: Re: The whole CIX concept is flawed To: jlw@cs.columbia.edu (James Waldrop) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 17:10:55 -0600 (CST) Cc: bilse@eu.net, com-priv@psi.com In-Reply-To: <199404021843.NAB24187@shekel.cs.columbia.edu> from "James Waldrop" at Apr 2, 94 01:42:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 7229 > [ Please note that I blind carbon copied some people on this... ] > > Per Gregers Bilse wrote: > >You want that guarantee for free. Sorry, can't be done. For one > >thing, there are real operational costs (manpower, equipment, office > >space, etc) associated with the CIX itself. The fact that you > >transit via somebody else doesn't reduce the need for the CIX to be > >there. Why should you, as an ISP, be allowed to get all the benefits > >of CIX membership, without chipping in? Foul play. > > I think you're missing our anonymous friend's point. All of the > costs asociated with routing CIX direct connections are presumably > paid by the CIX connection fee, *not* the CIX membership fee. Not true. Have you priced the following lately? Routers (Especially large-frame CISCOs) Ports boards for those routers T1 CSU/DSUs Maintenance on the above Salaries (someone has to maintain these things!) Office space Electricity (NOT a trivial matter) And lots more. I don't mind paying Bill Washburn's salary; I think he happens to earn it. > Exactly what service is CIX returning for its $10K? If ANS CO+RE > suddenly decided to "play fair" and force all of its resellers > to pay the fee, exactly where would that money go? Not into > routers, new leased lines, or any other such thing, since it seems > those are already in place. Such a windfall could be used to line > a few pockets, I'm sure, or it could perhaps be used for other, more > charitable services such as connecting libraries or what-have-you. Oh, but you're wrong! Let's say that ANS CO+RE decided to "play fair" and the resellers ponied up to the bar. What could happen with, say, $200,000 in additional annual income for the CIX? I can think of a couple of things right off the bat: 1) New points of service. We could have a CIX-West, CIX-East, CIX-Midwest and CIX-South. All connected with T1 lines. NOW the cost to an ISP to connect to one directly drops DRAMATICALLY (long lines are charged by mileage). This is a GREAT improvement for nearly everyone (except for those on the west coast who already enjoy the disparity of this setup) 2) More service. As membership grows, those T1s could become T2s and even T3s. Imagine a 45mbps AUP-free backbone, with a $10k/year connection charge. Gods, the mind boggles. Those ISPs who have made their business selling "resale" connections (primarily ANS) are in big trouble in this situation -- is it any wonder they would oppose this? All of a sudden you have available for $10k a year what ANS would like to charge you $70,000 for! There are some very, very entrenched interests who would love to see the day that the CIX dies. Some of them might even be members of the CIX now. Some of them might have even made snide (or not so snide) comments to outside parties indicating that they have no intention of seeing that the above scenario takes place, and in fact their resale policies, explicit or otherwise, might just happen to undermine the above scenario. I leave it up to the reader to decide who might be guilty of what in that area. Remember that the CIX is a 501(c) organization. It cannot make a profit. It cannot pay dividends to members, or otherwise engage in "kickbacks". It can provide services for money, as can any trade association. It can pay for services rendred at market rates. If it is proven that people have done things as board members or in other positions of authority that constitute abuse of their position, they can go to . Screwing with non-profit organizations is a VERY bad idea. Also, the membership has the final vote on the wisdom of fund allocation, and can remove the board if they so choose. > At any rate, "protection" seems to be a perfect description of > what we are talking about here. If two people can agree not to > fight among each other, then there is no need to pay a third > party to enforce the peace. We humans have problems with this, > ornery creatures that we are, but a router doesn't have to deal > with emotional issues... .... > In fact, the $10K seems to me to be more of a barrier to entry -- > an anticompetitive agreement among certain large ISPs. Sprint > can afford to pay the $10K, and is probably happier than not > that Mr Anonymous's company is less able. So in fact this fee > becomes another sort of "protection" -- protection from competition. > And Sprint is one of the founders of CIX. Interesting. What if > the BofD should someday meet and decide that, due to inflationary > pressures etc, the $10K/year fee is now $100K? Cough up or quit > competing. I might speculate that MCS would no longer be able > to afford this fee, and would have to quit reselling IP connections. > > Based on this, I think I can make the assertion that the CIX fee, > prohibitive as it is, actually INHIBITS the growth of the Internet. > > James Waldrop > jlw@cs.columbia.edu > sulam@well.sf.ca.us You'd be wrong. What are you going to do if the following happens? 1) The CIX dies since everyone thinks they should get the service "for free" rather than paying for it. 2) Sprint, ANS, Alternet and PSI decide to stop selling to small resale customers. Note that Alternet already kinda does this, and PSI absolutely does this in the main. There's only two left...... and one of these (ANS) has publically declared, a couple of years ago, that it had every intention of setting up a pay-by-the-byte plan (COMBITS) which it thought it could ram down everyone else's throats. The CIX was formed as a RESPONSE to that threat. 3) Now, as a small ISP you CANNOT get a connection which you can resell easily. Instead, you have to negotiate 30 agreements with 30 other people, and pay all of them. And their incentive to allow you to compete with them by agreeing to allow you to exchange traffic? Zero. Why not just destroy you? There's ZERO reason for the national boys to cooperate with you in this situation, and you have ZERO leverage. There is absolutely no reason for these folks to allow you to compete with them at no cost to you. You think you're going to get a zero-settlement traffic exchange agreement? You're nuts! Bye-bye small ISP marketplace. Anticompetitive? I think the situation above is worst nightmare of the small ISP. You're going to end up with no interconnection at all for the small guy like MCSNet and most others. In fact, I can count the people who WOULD like that scenario on the fingers of one hand. This is the very reason that should there be a threat of this happening I WILL set up a CIX2-Midwest and get the "small" ISPs together to get a loud enough voice as a group to make damn sure it does NOT happen. And, if necessary, press that issue in court and the national media. Be careful what you wish for folks. You might just get it, and find that the unintended consequences of your actions are 100 times worse than the intended consequence. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.COM) | MCSNet - Full Internet Connectivity (shell, Modem: [+1 312 248-0900] | PPP, SLIP and more) in Chicago and 'burbs. Voice/FAX: [+1 312 248-8649] | Email "info@mcs.com". MCSNet is a CIX member. -- Internet: pozar@kumr.lns.com Snail: Tim Pozar / KKSF / 77 Maiden Lane / San Francisco CA 94108 / USA POTS: +1 415 788 2022 Radio: KC6GNJ / KAE6247 From randy@psg.com Sat Apr 2 20:51:39 1994 Received: from rip.psg.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA03666; Sat, 2 Apr 94 20:51:37 -0800 Received: by rip.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0pnK9m-00030NC; Sat, 2 Apr 94 20:51 PST Message-Id: Date: Sat, 2 Apr 94 20:51 PST From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) To: tomj@wps.com (Tom Jennings) Cc: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) Subject: Re: visit next week? References: <9404030333.AA03461@wps.com> Status: OR A Fast anc crazxy wed/thu is fine, or the following Monday is fine. 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=tVxG -----END PGP MESSAGE----- From flesh Sun Apr 3 15:17:51 1994 Received: by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA06377; Sun, 3 Apr 94 15:17:51 -0700 From: flesh (Flesh) Message-Id: <9404032217.AA06377@wps.com> Subject: Warsaw To: tomj (Tom Jennings) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 15:17:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 162 Status: OR Going through my tapes last night, I realized that I had a copy of the complete collection of Joy Division's Warsaw-era recordings. All of them. Want a copy? From dmandl@lehman.com Mon Apr 4 06:07:46 1994 Received: from Lehman.COM by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA08977; Mon, 4 Apr 94 06:07:43 -0700 Received: from relay.lehman.com by lehman.com (8.6.4/LB 0.1) id JAA19169; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 09:07:38 -0400 Received: from disvnm2.lehman.com by relay.lehman.com (4.1/LB-0.6) id AA03115; Mon, 4 Apr 94 09:07:36 EDT Received: from shoe.lehman.com by disvnm2.lehman.com (4.0/SMI-4.1) id AA04305; Mon, 4 Apr 94 09:07:35 EDT Date: Mon, 4 Apr 94 09:07:35 EDT From: dmandl@lehman.com (David Mandl) Message-Id: <9404041307.AA04305@disvnm2.lehman.com> To: tomj@wps.com Subject: Radio Sermonettes Reply-To: dmandl@panix.com Status: OR Hi Tom-- Just wondering--did you ever get Radio Sermonettes converted? Have you put it up on an FTP site? I've gotten a few requests for ASCII copies of it recently (and I wouldn't mind having a copy myself). Regards. --Dave. From mrobbins Mon Apr 4 17:33:03 1994 Received: by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA00500; Mon, 4 Apr 94 17:22:08 -0700 From: mrobbins (Marge Robbins) Message-Id: <9404050022.AA00500@wps.com> Subject: file moving To: astarita@vgis.com (Mark Astarita), david@stat.com (David Dodell), 100321.2327@CompuServe.COM (Bjoern Haase), dallas.hinton@f715.n153.z1.fidonet.org (Dallas Hinton), merlin@zeus.ieee.org (Burt Juda), elmo@cyberspace.net (Jeremy O. Kerr), r3hjl@dax.cc.uakron.edu (Howard J. Lymor), ssdn@cpq.ct.se (Jesper Mertenson), chip@infinet.com (Chip Morrow), max@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Fido News), greg.shaffer@ascicorp.com (greg SHAFFER), Stu@nemesis.wimsey.com (Stuart Smith), John.Souvestre@f1.n396.z1.fidonet.org (John Souvestre), ed@blackbag.com (edward delgrosso), ddrex@okcforum.osrhe.edu (david drexler), tomj@wps.com (tom jennings), fidonet@icaen.uiowa.edu (john johnson), mathew.landry@f109.n267.z1.fidonet.org (Matthew landry), mrobbins@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu (marge robbins), jsw@omahug.org (jack winslade) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 17:22:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 3511 Status: OR Hi folks, Mark Astarita has volunteered to do some scanning. So I'll be sending him copies of old node lists and ifna stuff for conversion to test files. Thanks Mark. Today I moved the last of the graphics to Zeus. They will be available on ftp.fidonet.org by morning. (Mark, we've made giffs and/or jpgs of some memoribilia from TJ's files) Our file distribution system is in place and I have started hatching the files. Thanks to John Souvestre for setting it up. I'll be putting the list of sites and files available in the snooze (not necessarily this week, Syliva) -- Oh yeah and I got a whole 4 paragraphs of David Dodells' tape transcribed over the weekend. I lost my computer to my nephew. (anyone every try to teach an 8 year old how to deal with windows?) Fidonet history files bink_100.zip Binkleyterm V.1 bumper.giff Fidonet bumper sticker bumper.jpg Fidonet bumper sticker cartons.zip fidonet cartoons giff format cert.zip IFNA certificate of incorporation circle.jpg Oklahoma Brothers invent the wheel conf_400.zip Confmail v.4 conf04.jpg Cover page con booklet 4th Fidocon confmail.zip Confmail v.1 doggy.giff Fido at the keyboard doggy.jpg fido at the keyboard fd_1_10.zip Front Door V1. fido11.zip Fido V11 fidohist1.arc Fidonet history by T. Jennings fidohist2.arc Fidonet history by T. Jennings fnewsv1.zip fidonews 1984 fnewsv2.zip fidonews 1985 fnewsv3.arj fidonews 1986 fnewsv4.arj fidonews 1987 fnewsv5.arj fidonews 1988 fnewsv6.arj fidonews 1989 fnewsv7.zip fidonews 1990 fnewsv8.zip fidonews 1991 fnewsv9.zip fidonews 1992 Hi-fido.giff Ad for Fido BBS Hi-Fido.jpg ad for Fido BBS ifna_l1.jpg Letter demanding IFNA stop using trademark josh-tom.lzh a giff Tom Jennings and friend june83.zip the first nodelist in pcx format jun84.jpg the first nodelist in JPG Format kk_bbs.zip Ad for Ken Kaplin's BBS kk_agree Trademark agreement between TJ and K. Kaplin member.zip IFNA membership 1986 mwstar.arj Midwest Star Fiasco nov84.zip November 84 nodelist jpg format obit.jpg Obituary Don Brauns a pioneer puppy.zip Puppy a simplistic BBS written by TJ in 1987 seadog.giff Cover of early Seadog manual seadog.jpg Cover of early Seadog manual tom-at-2.lzh a giff Tom Jennings as a child tom1.lzh a giff Tom Jennings Tom2.jpg News Photo of Tom Jennings trade.zip Trademark Registration Tom Jennings |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | mrobbins@wps.com | |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~: : KEEPER OF THE FIDONET ARCHIVES : : : : Fido grew up and had a lot of puppies : ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From jonl@io.com Mon Apr 4 21:15:56 1994 Received: from illuminati.io.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA01622; Mon, 4 Apr 94 21:15:53 -0700 Received: from localhost by illuminati.io.com (8.6.5/PERFORMIX-0.9/08-16-92) id XAA22283; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 23:14:48 -0500 From: jonl@io.com (Jon K Lebkowsky) Message-Id: <199404050414.XAA22283@illuminati.io.com> Subject: lizards To: jrsumser@well.com, hlr@well.com, diggerjg@well.com Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 23:14:47 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tomj@wps.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 259 Status: OR That idea of Lounge Lizards Friday night the 15th is most excellent...I wuz gonna suggest them for the party, in fact, before Hoots & Holler committed... Will ya have energy enuf for musicks that nite? Also figure on food somewhere in the vicinity... jonl From Janet.Murray@f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org Mon Apr 4 23:39:55 1994 Received: from rain.psg.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA01975; Mon, 4 Apr 94 23:39:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0po4jM-000axeC; Mon, 4 Apr 94 23:35 PDT Received: by puddle.fidonet.org (mailout1.26); Mon, 4 Apr 94 23:34:30 PST Date: Mon, 04 Apr 94 21:36:13 PST Message-Id: <12729.2DA11486@puddle.fidonet.org> From: Janet.Murray@f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Janet Murray) Subject: CFP bust gossip To: tomj@wps.com X-Mailer: mailout v1.26 released Status: OR Hi, TJ - U>Do you have any details on the CFP "bust" in Chicago? I've got U>someone U>looking for tyhe Friday NYTimes biz section, but any information Text from the NYT: 3/26/94 p. 17Y ("Reporter's Notebook" by Peter H. Lewis; "Collisions in Cyberspace on Data Encryption Plan") "And as if to reinforce the paranoia, agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation raided the hotel where this conference is being held this morning and arrested a young man fitting the description of a fugitive hacker, Kevin Mitnick. The arrested man, who was nabbed in his hotel room in his underwear, had registered using a name that is a known alias of the fugitive. Law enforcement agents attending the conference had noticed the name, checked a police photo of the fugitive, and alerted the local F.B.I. office. Although he and his roommates protested that he was not Mr. Mitnick, the man was handcuffed, taken to the local F.B.I. office and fingerprinted. His fingerprints were faxed to a national crime information center. About 30 minutes later, the word came back that the arrested man was not the fugitive. 'They walked me back to the hotel and apologized, basically,' he said." Saturday evening the FBI attendee at the conference met with whoever wanted to attend; he basically confirmed the details as reported by the NYT. The other case, also one of mistaken identity, concerned another young man named "Joe" who was thought to be "Agent Steele" - that case was cleared up "in about two minutes," he said. The person sitting next to me said he had met Agent Steele, that he was probably six inches taller than the suspect. The FBI agent said that could be explained (but didn't). There were at least two tape recorders running during the conversation, and the press was present. (Including "Emmanuel Goldstein" of 2600) Bob Stratton of uunet sat on the "Hackers and Crackers" panel and seemed to know a lot more about what was going on than I did. No e-mail address listed in the attendees . . . Peter Lewis' e-mail address is listed as plewis@netcom.com Hope this helps. --Janet jmurray@psg.com -- uucp: uunet!m2xenix!puddle!23!Janet.Murray Internet: Janet.Murray@f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org From gnu@toad.com Mon Apr 4 23:41:47 1994 Received: from toad.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA01998; Mon, 4 Apr 94 23:41:25 -0700 Received: from localhost by toad.com id AA18492; Mon, 4 Apr 94 23:41:26 PDT Message-Id: <9404050641.AA18492@toad.com> To: tomj@wps.com, hopkins@toad.com, tim@toad.com, wicinski@barn.com Subject: ...and maybe masturbation really IS "the thinking man's television." Date: Mon, 04 Apr 94 23:41:25 -0700 From: gnu@toad.com Status: OR Seems like the kind of thing you'd like... Date: Fri, 1 Apr 94 13:24:32 -0800 From: Peter Langston To: Fun_People@bellcore.bellcore.com Subject: ...and maybe masturbation really IS "the thinking man's television." Reply-To: psl@acm.org (Peter S. Langston) [From the land of the double-latte midnight snack... -psl] Forwarded-by: elshaw@MIT.EDU (Libby Shaw) From: Lennon McAdams III Wangifesto Press Presents: DYSTOPINION ONLINE #1 The following information and reviews have been culled from DystOpinion #s 12-16. We decided that in presenting our first e-zine we needed to offer something different from just the text of the current issue of the hard-copy zine. Due to the importance of graphics in DystOpinion that we are unable to reproduce in this format, if you enjoy this e-zine, we highly suggest you send a S.A.S.E. to Wangifesto Press P.O. Box 45622 Seattle Wa 98145-0622 for the latest issue. Since we are able to pick and choose the reviews for this "best of" edition, we are only including those that reflect things that we really enjoy, unlike the regular DystOpinion, where we review honestly practically anything we are sent. Please feel free to forward this publication to anybody who might be in the slightest bit interested. We love you here at Wangifesto Press! DystOpinion was thrilled to receive word from "Saucer Smear" the ultimate in UFOlogical skepticism. Extremely cynical and in depth, Smear goes to UFO and paranormal conferences around the world, and lets you know what is phony, and in rare cases what might not be. Mixed in is gossip, odd newsclips about people like Uri Geller, and letters from the likes of Robert Anton Wilson. Send them something cool, and they might mail an issue or two to you. P.O. Box 1709, Key West, Fl 33041. It's not exactly a hip secret that with e-mail, the zine world has gone boldly into cyberspace, but nonetheless, once you get online it's not always easy to figure out where to get started. One highly effective e-zine that we were sent is Assemblage, a "deliberately ephemeral, occassional, mobile journal" about rave music and culture with "articles on the social implication of this music (if any)" You can get an issue e-mailed to you merely by contacting Russell Potter via rapotter@colby.edu, and if you have any reviews or articles about techno, ambient, house, hip hop, or related music and art, you are encouraged to submit them as well. Science fiction fans who want to experience exotic worlds in an exotic culture will want to attend the First Baltic Science Fiction Convention BALTCON and the 1994 Lithuanian National Science Fiction Convention LITUANICON in Vilnius from the 24th to the 26th of June. Expect to see interesting people from Finland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Germany, Poland, Russia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and all over the world indulging in films, panels, debates, RPG, exhibitions, and masquerade. If you can handle the airfare, the con is cheap at $25 U.S. For more info contact SF Club DORADO G. Beresnevicius, Antakalnio 65-33, 2040 Vilnius, Lithuania. Be sure to request a copy of their excellent newsletter The Contact to whet your appetite. Not only is Bill Clinton the first U.S. President to admit having smoked pot (sort of,) but he will also be the firs robot president to give a speech at Disneyland. (We're not making this up!) It's a small world after all... Azalia Snail played to a disturbingly empty Capitol Theater in September. Their music echoed in our collective cerebellum for weeks, more so because Ms. Snail was so kind as to give us her album Burnt Sienna and single "Into Your World" b/w "Warm Front." The songs are timelessly psychedelic, with electric and effects-laden acoustic harmonics fused with minimal percussion. Live the "drummer" plays thumb-pianos over a steel barrel. Ms. Snail's voice is haunting, as is her personae when she sings. Songs like "St. Nowhere" and "Hit by a Car" invade consciousness like sweet aether and stay unceasingly. Send eight to ten bucks to Funky Mushroom Records PO Box 100270 Brooklyn, NY 11210 for Burnt Sienna. IF YOU REALLY WANT FREE SMASH INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY The Experiment at Petaluma is a bizarre video of Terrence McKenna melting in psychedelic cinematography while talking about the way that sqids communicate using light, and they have to spray ink to get any privacy. We rented our copy from Mandala Books, 1 block off of Roosevelt on 64th Ave. in Seattle. You can buy it from Rose X, 17 Coleridge, SF CA 94110. "The monster stumbles into pretentiousness and eats himself" is at least part of the theme of issue #18 of FARM PULP Magazine, perhaps the strangest and most well executed trip into the surreal to grace our coffee table(s) recently. Top notch black and white graphics mix with textual suggestions of monstrosity; some stories, some little more than ideas. Luke McGuff contributes "On Getting Pierced", perhaps the most "realistic" piece. Otherwise myth meets B-movie with no clear winner. WELL WORTH the 2 bucks. 217 NW 70th Street, Seattle, Wa 98117-4845. The mailroom here at Wangifesto Press can get a little disorganized at times... sometimes envelopes get lost. So when a band packages their single like CONDEUCENT do, with just a weird logo on one side, and a trippy picture of an archetypical little girl on the other, we can get pretty confused as to who the hell we are listening to and where they are from. Thankfully in this case we found the note with label address from Zadfuc Noises 3468 S. 119th St., West Allis, Wi 53227. $3.50 ppd. This is fine post-punk experimentalism and it wails! We at DystOpinion were blessed to receive a copy of ZenArchy, a book by Kerry Thornley that belongs on the shelf of any practicing anarchist. A humorous and thought provoking book sure to keep even those with the shortest attention span thoroughly entertained. Eastern philosophy bred with the "no-politics-is-good-politics" ideology makes for a blissful state of anarchy, thus the appropriate title ZenArchy. Illuminet Press, PO Box 746, Avondale Estates, GA 30002. BAN STRAIGHTS IN THE MILITARY! Based on a tip left on our now defunct hotline by one of our readers, we went to see Manufacturing Consent, the documentary film about Noam Chomsky. We wish more of our calls had been so useful. This is a great movie that we reccomend seeing by any means. There was a certain irony viewing Chomsky attacking the media in very edited MTVish cuts, but the film-makers are aware enough of what they are doing that it is doubtful they missed this irony. While long (3 hours), it was never boring, and we learned about the genocidal invasion of East Timor by the U.S. backed Indonesian government, a fact that our "free press" has kept us quite ignorant of for twenty-odd years. FREE FORUM VS. THE ARM'S EXTENT: Definately two of the best literary zines in Seattle. Free Forum features a lot of the more experimental people who read at Red Sky Poetry Theatre, while Arm's Extent is more connected with the Owl & Thistle scene. Both zines are very open to submissions, but so far AE has considerably more women , and people from outside Seattle than FF. Both zines are free if you can find them, FF is perhaps easier to find with likely locations listed right on the zine. Free Forum is available from Obscure Writer's Press at Box 33087, Seattle, WA 98133. The Arm's Extent can be reached at 1209 E. Denny Way, Seattle, WA 98122. (note: when we originally ran this "vs." column, the people at Free Forum took issue to a lot of what we said, and decided that they don't like us because of it, that's the risk you take in having an opinion.) One of the most exciting and informative books of 1993 was, for us at least, RE/SEARCH Incredibly Strange Music Volume I, a series of interviews with obscure record collectors and fringe musicians. >From the Cramps to Ertha Kit, from Amok Books to Lypsinka, the cultural refuse of thrift store vinyl is picked apart and mulled over endlessly. The reader learns about more than just music and bizarre album cover art, there's also tiki barbecues and the Unknown Museum. As the words go by on the page you can practically hear the soothing strains of early moog synthesizers and the exotic sounds of Martin Denny. Warning, if you have overcome your urge to buy and collect records, this book will get you started again! It even has an index. Send an SASE for catalog to RE/SEARCH PUBLICATIONS 20 Romolo #B, SF, CA 94133. The Colonists is perhaps the best serious U.F.O. Watch zine we have come across. Not skeptical or cynical like Saucer Smear, they seem to be true believers. The articles are quite well done, covering intersting topics as well, such as EMFs. Box 1161, Ft. Washington, PA 19034. While you're not likely to hear the name on the radio, Fuckface make very interesting music, in the tradition of strange electirc noises emanating from New York. "Tex/Thorn" is almost tribal in scope, and very aggressive in delivery. Zadfruck Noises Label 3468 S. 119th St., West Allis, Wi 53227. Buy Now! Not only does DystOpinion review music and noises by a wide variety of independent and non-commercial artists, but we are now also loosely connected with a radio show on K.A.O.S. 89.3 F.M. in Olympia, What's This Called? airing at 2 A.M. Sunday Nights (Monday Mornings.) So now if you send us something to review, and we REALLY like it, it will not only get a positive review, but also air-play on public radio. The northwest bible of hip hop culture, and an essential read is THE FLAVOR. If you are into rap, or want to find more out, this is your hardcore mainline. Not a lot about the big names, an underground education. 20112 18th NW, Seattle, WA 98177-2210. (note: recent issues of The Flavor have contained a lot more ads, and a lot more big label groups, but nonetheless they are the only NW hip hop zine we've come across, and they believe in their music.) We put the new TVTV$ disc into the player not expecting much. The title "Rap Music Is Killing America" seemed like silly sensationalism, and comments by band members in Flipside always come across the same way. So we had to be won over by good punk rock songs, and we were. Tunes like "What about U.S." recall classic low-budget punk, while the title track actually succeeds quite well as a white noise sampling anthem. It is difficult to tell if the TVTV$ are sincere about the title (or anything!) or if they are mocking media sensationalism in general. Of course if Rap Music really IS killing America, then that is all the more reason to listen to it. Flipside Records PO Box 60790 Pasadena, CA 91116. Now that the city council in Seattle has managed to make it illegal to be homeless, and for anybody to sit down on a public sidewalk, they are once again taking aim at the musicians, artists, and political groups who use the cities telephone poles as a means of communication. Despite a court decision proving it contrary to the first ammendment to prohibit people from flyering, fines of up to $100 have been levied against musicians recently. It is time for the art community to take action. More flyers with anonymous political statements are neeedes (direct them at JANE NOLAND the ordinance's sponsor.) The Seattle music scene must stand up as the powerful economic force it is against this type of bullying. This is a battle that must be fought in the courts and in the streets. Tacoma's most popular export, Girl Trouble, sent us a copy of their true fanzine WiG OUT! (No. 21.) Kind of funny, since Empty hasn't sent us any of their records, but way fun (of course) anyway. We defy anyone to catch Girl Trouble live and not have a good time, and WiG OUT! is the kool kitsch we krave. #21 contains a high school annual version of the archetypical guest list. PO box 44633, Tacoma, WA 98444. !@#$%^&*()_-+={[}]<,>.?/:;"'~`!@#$%^&*()_-+={[}]<,>.?/:;"'~`!@#$%^&*()_-+={[ }] Will the REAL Bob please sit down. What follows is a review of a musical recording and the reaction of a couple of our readers. Sound simple? Not when the question of intellectual property enters the picture. There can be no question that "Bob Dobbs" the recording artist from Toronto stole his name and image from Ivan Stang's Church of the Subgenius, who in turn stole their ideas from too many places to list. But does that mean that the music automatically sucks? Read on, listen, and decide for yourself. Bob's Media Ecology, the cd by Producers For Bob, has been out for over a year now, but we just got to hear it for the first time and are compelled to spread the word. Bob Dobbs claims to have inspired Ivan Stang's creation of the same name, while he himself seems like a cross between Marshal McCluhan, and Tim Leary. The music is not unlike the orb; i.e. slowrave. There is a humorous charm to this project, and maybe masturbation really IS "the thinking man's television." DOVentertainment, 2 Bloor St. W. #100-159 Toronto Ontario Canada M4W 3E2. Dear DystOpinion, My enclosed letter to Urban Spelunker asks: who next will fall for the Bob's Media Ecology scam? Now we know, it was YOU! My condolences that you have joined the list of suckers. I know it is not pleasant to be made a fool of. (why yes, we're sure you do - eds.) I write to you as one who has been close to the heart of the Church of the SubGenius for years, who knows Stang & has broken bread with him in his home with his family -- and I can tell you that BMEco is a rip-off of the dedicated toil of the many people who have labored to make this church truly "the Greatest Joke Ever Told." Not only is it a slap in the face to those who have given so much of themselves, but it's not even that interesting of a rip-off. The church encourages heresy, schism, faction & freelancing among its followers -- but the stale melange of tepid Cyber-New Ageisms flatulated by this human excrement from the sewers of Toronto barely qualifies as what it claims, implicitly, to be: entertainment. (we disagree of course - eds.) This outrage must be stopped. Please help to spread the truth, and thus we shall SMITE this anti-"Bob" where it hurts -- maybe if people stop buying his "product" he'll go back to peddling heroin to school children, or whatever it is he does for a day job. Praise "Bob!" Kenneth Huey (206)632-3759 460 N. 39 #B Seattle, Wa 98103 (Thanks for sharing - eds.) The SubGenius Foundation P.O. Box 140306 Dallas, Texas 75214 You guys must be pretty fuckin' DENSE to give "Bob's Media Ecology" the time of day. -- Rev. Ivan Stang But go ahead, SUCK the CONSPIRACY'S ANUS. GRRR. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~ THE ALARM is the voice of the north-eastern Earth First!, as well as a great networking source for ecovists everywhere. They are pushing to make the EF! movement more open to paganism, feminism, and queer politics. PO Box 804, Burlington, VT 05402. One of the most overlooked recordings to be released in the past year, and one of the few that really makes use of the cd format, is actually a compilation of material dating back as far as 1981. Steve Fisk's excellent retrospective Over and Thru the Night, on K records, features 19 tracks of brilliant tape manipulations, found sounds, and multi-tracked instrumentalisms. Some of it, notably "One More Valley" works very well as song, while other tracks, such as "Government Figures" are suitable for answering machine messages. K Records Box 7154, Olympia, WA 98507. Somebody once asked us if Wangifesto Press is an anarchist press. "No," we replied, "we're not that organized." Nonetheless we do feel and affinity for anybody who talks about smashing the state, and we do like to read a good anti-government rag whenever we can. Two of the best we have received are Wind Chill Factor (PO Box 81961, Chicago, IL 60681,) and Unclean (2128 Ward St. Beserkeley, CA 94704.) WCF is almost impossible to read in its entirety unless you are a graduate student in anti-politics, and contains all sorts of great tips for reeking havoc on the phone company and other fun corporations. Unclean is a bit more punk, and quite a bit more violent. We tend to be a bit closer to WCF's "screw up the system" than Unclean's "off a pig" attitude, but we really dug all the neat posters and D.A.R.E. card that Unclean sent. In a related note, we swear that we saw a black flag with a capital @ on it right next to old glory on Willie Nelson's birthday special. Go figure. If you aren't a disciple of the late paranoid genius Phillip K. Dick, go pick up any of his hundreds of novels. If already a convert, you may be interested in the PKD Society, and their now defunct newsletter. They sent us a copy of #30, the swan song issue, containing a beautifully delusionary letter from PKD to a friend, and one of his ex-wife's rebuttals to his accusations. Back issue price list at Box 611, Glen Ellen, CA 95442. In the sleazy world of promo kits and lame overpackaged-underplayed cds we get inundated with, its a pleasure to encounter non-music labels like ROTENROLL and MARV RECORDS who have joined resources to put out the FREE split 45 between hardcorers Negative Reaction and power-popsters Whatsoever. This is great shit, and it's free! Write: N.R./WSE 7", 222 Jerusalem Ave., Massapequa Park, NY 11762. Conspiracy of the Week: DystOpinion #14 contained info on the great left-of-left, off-the-wall, public access show Political Playhouse. The times given were wrong. Sources say thay former C.I.A. director Casey, pretending to be dead for the past 5 years, while hiding in the Wa state town of Ranier, snuck into our office and altered this very important information to prevent YOU from watching this great program. The CORRECT rimes are: 10 P.M. on Fridays and the 1st Tuesday of every month at 8 P.M. That's channel 29 (Seattle only, sorry.) Readers in NYC can catch it on channel 17 Mondays at 2:30 and channel 16 Saturdays at 9 P.M., and it's also on Austin public access (check your local listings.) Clinton Heylin succeeds very well at the difficult task of telling the story of the early New York, Detroit, and Cleavland punk rock scenes in his book >From the Velvets to the Voidoids - A Pre-Punk History for a Post-Punk World. Undoubtedly there is an underlying bias of one fan's opinion (such as Heylin's belittling of the Dead Boys), but that makes it seem all the more sincere. It focuses on the following bands in roughly chronological order: the Velvet Underground, MC5, Stooges, Modern Lovers, pre-Pere Ubu roots, Suicide, New York Dolls, Television, Patti Smith, Blondie, Ramones, Heartbreakers, Talking Heads, Dictators, Dead Boys, Voidoids, DNA, and Lydia Lunch. Notably absent in the later half is Sonic Youth, though there is mention of Richard Hell's work with with Thurston Moore in the Dim Stars. There's a lot of info about what these bands were doing that didn't necessarily ever make it on record. Makes us wonder why there are so few bands today as good as most of these. Available from Penguin Books. Now that the Rocket has become a biweekly update of Major Label success stories, where do you turn to find out about the uncorporate NW rock scene? Besides DystOpinion? 10 Things Jesus Wants You To Know of course. 10 Things is fast becoming the voice of NW punk, and an undeniably audible voice at that. #5 has Crunt, The Putters, Pain Teens and lots more including zine reviews and music reviews with a very indie approach (even some demos.) $1.50 cash or stamps to 1407 NE 45th St. #17, Seattle, WA98105. Tried U.F.O.s, Reincarnation, Neo-Paganism, a Bob or two, and you're still looking for something new to cash in all your assets to believe? We suggest Revelations of Awareness the newsletter of Cosmic Awareness Communications and the Aquarian Church of Universal Service. The newsletter is completely channeled, and answers such pertinent questions as: who was Topiltzin or Quetzacoatl? Will our Constitution be preserved? and Well pinhole glasses really help the eyes? Issue #416 deals with the Goddess Energies. Sample Copy FREE P.O. Box 115, Olympia, WA 98507. Punk lives in Reno! Second Guess is a very interesting read. While at times juvenille, we're sure that's the idea, and editor Bob is very honest in opinions (something we admire.) It would be easy to compare this to MRR, but that would only lessen its unique impact. $2 PO Box 9382, Reno, NV 89507. Whether Bruce Roberts' compilation of writings about the political conspiracy and the involvement of organized crime in the U.S. government - writings that consider the Kennedy assassinations, the disappearance of Howard Hughes, Chappaquidick, and Watergate - are reflections of fact, or deluded ramblings, may never be fully known. We find The Gemstone File by Jim Keith to be a noble effort to place the file in a historical context without attempting to substantiate or invalidate any claims made within the body of Roberts' work. By surrounding a synopsis of the Gemstone File (the "Skeleton Key") with historical documents and interviews, Keith examines the people and events in an even-handed manner. Available through Illuminet Press PO Box 746, Avondale Estates, GA 30002. Michelle Rau is an artist/writer who does work for Factsheet Five, and has been corresponding with DystOpinion since the beginning. She sent us two wonderful publications, A Rage of Maidens ($2 ppd.) and Horlodge House ($4 ppd.) Rage turned out to be some of the best erotica we've consumed: line drawings of seductive clothed women, accompanied by text that should arouse all orientations attracted to females. Horlodge is a collection of dreams for the psychological voyeur. How Do You Spell It Productions, Box 460896, SF, CA 94146-0896. Packed with elaborate (she even illustrates the edges of each panel) strips of varying length with tales of 2-headed freaks, a pointy-boobed owner of a pet scampi, a mermaid & her pez-necked friend, and our favorite, the next holy virgin, comes Meat Cake #1 by the lovely & brilliant Dame Darcy from Fantagraphics. Don't miss the chance to enter the world of Dame Darcy (this comic is just the tip of the berg) she even makes dolls. c/o Fantagraphics Books 7563 Lake City Way, Seattle, WA 98115 or Tedium House (box 424762 SF, CA 94142.) (reviewed by a woman in case you care.) Global Mail is a zine that takes networking to a new extreme. Kind of like a postal version of a BBS. Ashley Parker Owens receives over 100 pieces of mail per week and lists every return address 3 times a year, along with what individuals want or can offer. This is a monumental piece of work, and uncopywritten at that! PO Box 597996 Chicago, IL 60659. An incredibly good band with an incredibly big sound is Montreal's Megalo who we caught at the Capitol Theater with four other good but lesser bands. Megalo are a three piece who take the best elements of NoMeansNo and Helmet, then throw in a singer with a good voice and sense of restraint. We bought their tape for 2 bucks to help defray the $450 they blew crossing our wonderful border to play in tiny clubs. It contains two cool songs "T.V. RASH" and "BORN 2 DIE", and can be yours from P.O. Box 463, Place Du Parc, Montreal, QC, H2W 2N9. Booking Info. (514)849-8602. :):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):) :) That's it for this first issue collector's item. There's a lot more where this came from, and still more to come. If you were reviewed in DystOpinion and we didn't choose to run your review in this issue, please do not take it personally, we just got sick of typing! Write us and tell us you would like it included in the next issue, and it will be done. If you have anything for us to review send it to Wangifesto Press, P.O. Box 45622, Seattle, WA 98145-0622, unless it's an e-zine, then just e-mail it to us. We love you here at Wangifesto Press! ------- End of Forwarded Message From cs000rrs@selway.umt.edu Tue Apr 5 06:27:16 1994 Received: from selway.umt.edu by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA03018; Tue, 5 Apr 94 06:27:13 -0700 Received: by selway.umt.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA17772; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 07:27:11 -0600 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 07:27:11 -0600 (MDT) From: Ryan Snyder--Consultant Subject: Re: news of the weird To: Tom Jennings In-Reply-To: <9404042029.AA10353@wps.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR On Mon, 4 Apr 1994, Tom Jennings wrote: > What's your source for this? It's pretty funny. Someone's doing a good > job of combing the nooze... Write to notw-request@nine.org. I don't remember the syntax (it may be a human). Ryan Snyder, Consultant | --->Finger me for my PGP public key.<--- ___ University of Montana CIS| |\ /| CS000RRS@SELWAY.UMT.EDU | Copyright 1994 by Ryan R. Snyder. | 0 | RYE@ILLUMINATI.IO.COM | |/_\| RYE@CYBERSPACE.ORG | From randy@psg.com Tue Apr 5 06:37:05 1994 Received: from rip.psg.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA03043; Tue, 5 Apr 94 06:37:02 -0700 Received: by rip.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0poBJE-000304C; Tue, 5 Apr 94 06:36 PDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 5 Apr 94 06:36 PDT From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) To: rcollet@icm1.icp.net, syoung@icp.net Cc: tomj@wps.com Subject: a problem seen from the customer view Status: OR Bob, this is what a SprintLink problem looks like to your customer. I kept a log. My impression o I was not told of a planned outage that might (and did) affect me. o Sprint did not care enough to call back when I was down, or check if I was back up and happy. randy ---------- Monday 94.04.04 (all times PDT) 10:15 a rainet customer reports problems to me i notice that net performance is bad and dying i assume it is my problem so reboot all routers no packet loss within RAINet 16% packet loss to ftp.uu.net and climbing 10:24 call sprint 800 number ticket number 1764 she will call back in a few minutes (she never did) packet loss 20% and still climbing 10:26 call TJ in SF he shows 5% packet loss to ftp.uu.net 10:35 net starts to wake up 5% packet loss to ftp.uu.net and descending looks like route fallbacks in Stockton i call my customer and confirm they perceive things getting better 10:40 tj gets ticket 1765 10:50 network alive, no packet loss i check that my customer is happy still no call back from Sprint Tuesday 94.04.05 04:10 Sprint DC calls back, 18 hours later! he says my line is the cleanest he has ever seen i say the problem seemed to resolve 17.5 hours ago he says that they were doing cable work in stockton, and that might have been it i said to close the ticket -30- From hermes@selway.umt.edu Tue Apr 5 06:37:19 1994 Received: from selway.umt.edu by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA03039; Tue, 5 Apr 94 06:36:27 -0700 Received: by selway.umt.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA18420; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 07:36:23 -0600 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 07:36:22 -0600 (MDT) From: - Subject: Incunabula, Part 1 To: w00f Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR I N C U N A B U L A -------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Catalogue of Rare Books, Manuscripts & Curiosa Conspiracy Theory Frontier Science & Alternative Worlds Emory Cranston,Prop. Incunabulum/ cocoon/ swaddling clothes/ cradle/ in-cunae, in the cradle/ koiman, put to sleep/winding- sheet/ koimetarium (cemetery)/ printed books before 1501, hence by extension any rare & hermetic book... ________________________ INTRODUCTION No book for sale here was actually printed before 1501, but they all answer to the description " rare and hermetic"-even the mass market paperbacks,not to mention the xeroxes of unpiblished manuscripts, which cannot be obtained from any other source! The symbol INCUNABULA was chosen for our company for it's shape- cocoon,egg-like,gourd like-the shape of Chaos according to Chaung Tzu.Cradle: beginings.Sleep: dreams. Silken white sheets of birth and death; books, white pages, the cemetery of ideas. This catalogue has been put together with a purpose: to alert YOU to a vast cover up, a conspiracy so deep that no other researcher has yet become aware of it (outside certain Intelligence circles,needless to say!)- and so dangerous that the "winding sheet" imagery in our title seems quite appropriate; we know of at least two murders so far in connection with this material. Unlike other conspiracy theories,such as Hollow earth, Men In Black, cattle mutilation,UFO,Reich & Tesla or what have you, the INCUNABULA Theory harmonizes with genuine frontier quantum mechanics and chaos mathematics, and does not depend on any quack nostrums,psuedoscience or ESP for proof.This will become clear to anyone who takes the trouble to read the background material we recommend and offer for sale. Because of the unprecedented nature of the INCUNABULA File we have included short descriptions of some of the books, pamphlets, flyers, privately-circulated or unpublished manuscripts, ephemera & curiosa available through us.Some of this is highly inflammable and sexual in nature, so an age statement must be included with each order. Cash(or stamps) only.No cheques or money orders will be accepted. Thank You, Emory Cranston,Prop. INCUNABULA PRESS ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1. Wolf, Fred Alan. Parallel Universes:The Search for Other Worlds (New York,Simon & Schuster,1988) cloth; 351 pp.;$25 Written by a scientist for non-scientists,simplistic and jokey,makes you feel a bit talked-down-to.Nevertheless Wolf uses his imagination (or other scientists imaginations) so well he seems to hit accidentally on certain truths-(unless he knows more than he reveals). For example: the parellel universes must have all come into being simultaneously "at the begining" in order for quantum uncertainty to exist, because there was no observer present at the Big Bang, thus no way for the Wave Function to collapse and produce one universe out of all the bubbles of possibility (p.174).If an electron can dissapear in one universe and appear in another (as suggested by the Everett/Wheeler material), a process called "quantum tunneling",then perhaps information can undergo a similar tunneling effect.Wolf suggests (p. 176) that this might account for certain "psychic phenomenon, altered states of awareness", even ghosts and spirits!Actual travel between worlds must of course involve tunneling by both electrons AND information-any scientist would have predicted as much-but the mention of "altered states" of consciousness is extremely revealing! Elsewhere (p.204), Wolf speculates that afuture "highly developed...electronic form of biofeedback" will allow us to observe quantum effects in the electrons of our own bodies, making the enhanced consciousness and the body itself a "time machine" (which is what he calls a device for travel between universes).He comes so close to the truth then shies away! For instance (p.199) he points out that the Wave Function has a value BETWEEN zero and one until it collapses.If the wave function does not collapse,the "thing" it describes exists in two universes simultaneously.How strange of him not to mention that fractal geometry also deals with values between zero and one! As we know the secret of travel between worlds is rooted in the marriage of quantum and chaos,particularly in the elusive mathematics of fractal tesseracts (visualize a 4-dimension Mandelbrot Set-one of the simplest of the trans- dimensional "maps" or "catastrophic topologies").Wolf appears so unaware of this ,we must sadly conclude that he's not part of the conspiracy. Particularly interesting-and not found in any other material-are Wolf's specualtions about schizophrenia.Are schizophrenics recieving information from other worlds? Could a schizoid observer actually observe (in the famous double slit experiments) a wave becoming two particles and then one particle? Or could such an observation be made by an extremely blank and simple-minded watcher (a sort of zen simpleton perhaps)? If so, the perfect subject for parellel-worlds experiments would be a paradoxically complex simpleton, a "magnetized schizophrenic" who would be aware of the split into two worlds which occurs when a quantum measurement is made.Oddly enough,such a mental state sounds very close to the "positive schizophrenia" of certail extreme psychedelic experiences as well as the meditation-visualiztaion exercises of actual travelers between worlds. Despite it's flaws, an essential work. 2. Herbert, Nick. Quantum Reality(NAL,1986)Cloth,$40 A masterful and lucid exposition of the different versions of reality logically describable from various interpretations of quantum mechanics.The Everett/Wheeler Theory is here given it's clearest explanation possible in lay persons terms,given the authors awwareness(at the time) of experimental verification. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. ibid. Faster Than Light:Superluminal Loopholes in Physics (NAL,1988) cloth,$30 Some of the theorists who touch on the Many-Worlds "hypothesis"place too much emphasis on time distortions and the implication of "time travel".These of course seem present in the theorems,but in practice have turned out(so far) to be of little consequance.Chaos Theory places much more emphasis on the temporal directionality than most quantum theory (with such exceptions as R.Feyman and his "arrow of time"), and offers strong evidence for the past-present-future evolution that we actually experience.As K.Sohrawardi puts it, "the universe is in a state of Being,true,but that state is not static in the way suggested by the concept o'reversibility' in Classical physics.The 'generosity' of Being,so to speak, is becoming, and the result is not reversibility but multiplicity,the unmeasurable resonant chaos-like fecundity of creation."Nevertheless,Herberts second book is a brilliant speculative work-and it led him directly to a certain circle of scientists and body of research concerned with dimensional travel, rather than "time travel",with the result that his third book (see next item) finally struck paydirt. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. "Jabir ibn Hayaan" (Nick Herbert). Alternate Dimensions (publication suppressed by Harper & Row,1989);bound uncorrected galleys, 179pp. $100. (We have 5 sets of proofs for sale,after which only xerox copies will be available at $125) While working on _Faster_Than_Light_ Herbert came into contact with one of the "travel cults" operating somewhere in California,perhaps one with a sufiistic slant("Jabir ibn Hayaan" was a famous 10th century sufi alchemist); according to the preface of _Alternate_Dimensions_,which is irritatingly vague and suggestive,this group seems to have trained him and sent him on at least one trip to America2.Herbert suggests that he already had so much experience of altered states of consciousness and ability to visualize complex space/time geometries that only a minimum of "initiatic" training proved necessary. In any case,despite it's vagueness and brevity,this book is the most accurate and thoroughly-informed work on travel between worlds in our entire collection.So far we have been unable to obtain and deep theoretical work,and only a few papers dealing with practical aspects- but Herbert provides a magnificent overviewof the entire field.Written for the lay person,with his usual clear and succint approach to theory,Herbert's is the first "popular" study to make all the basic links:the Everett/Wheeler hypothesis,Bell's Theorem, the E/R Bridge, fractal geometry and chaos math,cybernetically- enhanced biofeedback, psychotropic and shamanic techniques,crystallography,morphogenetic field theory,catastrophe topology,etc. Of course he's strongest in discussing the quantum aspects of travel,less sure when dealing with the math outside his field,and most inspiring when describing(pp.98-101) visualization techniques and "embodied ecstasy" (ex-stasis, "standing outside" the body;hence embodied ecstasy paradoxically describes the transdimensional experience). Herbert makes no claim to understand the traveling itself, and goes so far as to suggest that even the (unnamed) pioneers who made the first breakthroughs may not have completely understood the process,any more than the inventor of the steam engine understood Classical physics(p.23).This definitely ties in with what we know about the persons in question. Unfortunately the six illustrations promised in the table of contents are not included in the galleys-one of them was a "Schematic for a Trans-dimensional Express" which might be worth killing for!-and the publishers claim that Herbert never supplied the illustrations.They refuse to say why they suspended publication of _Alternate_Dimensions _ and in fact at first denied ever having handled such a title!Moreover Herbert has apparently dropped out of sight;if he hasn't met with foul play, he may have returned permanently to Earth2. We regret having to sell copies of a flawed book for such an outrageous price; we'd like to publish a massmarket edition affordable by all-but if Harper & Row ever find out what we're doing, we'll need the money for court costs and lawyers' fees!So get it while you can-this is THE indispensable background work for understanding the Conspiracy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5. Thomsen,Dietrick E. "A Knowing Universe Seeking to be Known" (Xerox offprint from _Science_News_,Vol.123,1983);$5 Unwittingly demonstrates the resonance between quantum reality theory and the sufism of (for example) "the Greatest Shaykh" Ibn'Arabi, who discusses in his _Bezels_of_Wisdom_ a saying attributed to God by Mohammad (but not in the Koran): "I was a hidden treasure and I wanted (lit.'loved')to be known;so I created the universe,that I might be known." 5a. We also have a few offprints (at the same price) of Thomsen's witty "Quanta at Large:101 Things TO DO with Schrodinger's Cat"(op.cit,129,1986). ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6. DeWitt,Bryce S. & Neill Graham. The Many Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics (Princeton,NJ,1973);cloth,$50 The standard (and far from "easy"!)work on the Everett/Wheeler hypothesis-a bible for the early pioneers. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7. Cramer,John G. "Alternate Universes II" (Analog,Nov.1984) A popularization of the Theory by a prominent physicist-no knowledge of the Conspiracy is detectable.We're selling copies of the SciFi mag itself for $10 each. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8. Greenberg,D.M.,ed. New Techniques & Ideas in Quantum Measurement Theory (Vol.480 Annals of the NY Academy of Sciences,1986);cloth,$50 Contains the valuable if somewhat whimsical article by D.Z.Albers,"How to take a Photograph of Another Everett World".Also the very important "Macroscopic Quantum Tunneling at Finite Tempatures" by P.Hanggi (we suspect him of being a Conspiracy member). -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9. (Anonymous). Course Catalogue for 1978-79, Institute of Chaos Studies and Imaginal Yoga(no address);xerox of mimeographed flyer,7pp,$15 An in-house document from the Institute where the first breakthrough was attained (probably in the late winter or early spring of 1979)- therefore,although it makes no overt mention of Travel or the Egg,the catalogue is of prime importance for an understanding of the intellectual and historical background of the event. According to an unrelaible source (see ESCAPE FROM EARTH PRIME!,#15 in this list),the Institute was located somewhere in Dutchess County,New York,where the founder and director,Dr,Kamadev Sohrawardi,was employed by IBM in the 1960's,"dropped out" and began investigations into "consciousness physics";it is also claimed that Sohrawardi was a Bengali of mixed English,Hindu and Moslem origin,descended from an old sufi family, and initiated into Tantra.All this disagrees with clues in other sources and is perhaps not to be trusted.Other groups take credit for Breakthrough, and sohrawardi may have been a fraud-but we're convinced that the catalogue is authentic and Sohrawardi's claim the most certain. At first glance,the Catalogue appears an example of late-hippy/early -New-Age pretentiousness.Thus there are courses in "Visions of Color & Light in Sufi Meditation","Inner Alchemy in Late Taoism","Metaphysics of the Ismaili 'Assassins'","Imaginal Yoga & the Psychotoplogy of the Imagination","Hermetic & Neo-Pagan Studies",(apparently based on Golden Dawn teachings),"Visualization Techniques in Javanese Sorcery","Stairways to Heaven:Shamanic Trance & the Mapping of Consciousness","Stirner,Nietzsche & Stone age Economy-An Examination of Non-Authoritarian Hunter/Gatherer Societies",and-interestingly enough!- "Conspiracy Thoery". The "shamanic" course may have been a blind for research in psychotropic drugs,including such exotica asahuasca(yage,harmaline),ibogaine,yohimbine,Telepathine and Viatmin K, as well as the more standard psychedelicatessan of the late 70's. However,the Catalogue also contains amazing courses in frontier science,any combination of which could have provided the key or final puzzle-bit to the Breakthrough:apparently Sohrawardi taught or supervised most of them.Thus "The Universe in a Grain of Sand" promised information on models of brain activity,cybernetically-enhanced feedback,Sheldrake's morphogenetic field theory,Rene' Thom's Catastrophic Theory as applied to consciousness, lucid-dreaming research,John Lilly's work on "altered states" and other mind-related topics.Then in "Strange Attractors & the Mathematics of Chaos",Sohrawardi discussed discussed matters unknown outside of the margins of academia till the mid-80's,and made the astounding prediction that Chaos in the macroscopic world somehow be found to mirror Uncertainty in the microscopic or Quantum World,a truth still unrecognized in "official" scientific circles today.He felt that n- dimensional strange attractors could be used to model the quantum behavior of particles/waves,and that the "so-called collapse of the wave function" could actually be mapped with certain bizzare ramifications of Thom's catasrophic topology.Making references to work by Ilya Prigogine which was still being circulated in private "preprint" or samizdat form at the time,Sohrawardi suggests that "creative chaos" (as opposed to "deterministic" or entropic chaos) provides the link that will unify Relativity,Quantum,Complexity and consciuosness itself into a new science. Finally in his"Advanced Seminar on Many Worlds",he states baldly that the alternative universes predicted by Relativity (Black Hole Theory) are the same as the many worlds predicted by Quantum,are the same as fractal dimensions revealed in Chaos!This one-page course description is the closest thing we have to an explanation of why travel to other worlds actually works.Hence the Catalogue is an indespensable document for the serious student of the Conspiracy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10. Beckenstein,J. "Black holes & Entropy",(xerox offprint from Physical Review,Vol.D7,1973;28pp),$15 An early (pre-Breakthrough) speculation with suggestive hints about quantum and chaos-as-entropy- although no knowledge of actual Chaos Theory is demonstrated.This paper was referred to in an in-house memo from the Inst. for Chaos Studies & Imaginal Yoga,believed to have been composed by K.Sohrawardi himself (see #9). ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11. Sohrawardi,Dr Kamadev. "Pholgiston & the Quantum Aether",(Offprint from the J. of Paranormal Physics,Vol.XXII,Bombay,1966),$40 An early paper by Sohrawardi,flooded with wild speculations about quantum and oriental spirituality,probably dating from the period when he was still working for IBM, but making visits to Millbrook,nearby in Dutchess Co.,and participating in the rituals of the League of spiritual discovery under Dr.T Leary, and the psychedelic yoga of Bill Haines' Sri Ram Ashram,which shared Leary's headquarters on a local millionaires estate.The basic insight concerns the identity of Everett/Wheeler's "many worlds" and the "other worlds" of sufism,tantrik Hinduism and Vajrayana Buddhism.At the time,Sohrawardi apparently believed he could "prove" this by reviving the long-dead theories of phlogiston and aether in the light of quantum discoveries!(Phlogiston Theory-based on the thinking oof the sufi alchemist Jabir ibn Hayaan-the original Jabir-was propounded seriously in the 18th century to unify heat and light as "one thing".)Totally useless as science,this metaphor nevertheless inspired Sohrawardi's later and genuinely important work on alternate realities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12. ibid. "Zero Work & Psychic Paleolithism", East Village Other,Vol.IV #4 (Dec.1968);xerox reprint,single sheet 11 1/2 x 17 $5 Unfortuantely no scientific speculations,but a fascinating glimpse into the political background of the inventor of Travel (or rather,one of the inventors).Making reference to French Situationist and Dutch "Provo" ideas which helped spark the "Events" and upheavals of Spring '68 all over Europe and America,Sohrawardi looks forward to a world without "the alienating prison of WORK",restored to the "oneness with Nature of the Old Stone Age" and yet somehow based on "green technology and quantum weirdness." Wild and wooly as it is,this text nevertheless poses a fascinating scientific question in the light of the author's later accomplishments-a question still unanswered.All the "First Breakthroughs" we know of with any degree of certainty (those in New York,california, and Java-the actual sequence is unclear) without exception entered paralell worlds without human inhabitants,virtual forest-worlds.Most science fiction predicated other worlds almost like ours.populated by "us",with only a few slight differences,worlds "close" to ours.Instead-no people! Why? Two possible explanations:(1) We cannot enter worlds containing "copies" of ourselves without causing paradox and violating the consistency principle of the "megaverse"-hence only wild (or feral) worlds are open to Travel.(2) Other worlds exist,in a sense,only as probabilities;in order to "become fully real" they must be observed.In effect,the parallel universes are observer-created,as soon as a traveller "arrives" in one of them.Sohrawardi wanted a paleolithic world of endless forest,plentiful game and gathering,virgin,empty but slightly haunted-therefore,that's what he got!Either explanation raises problems in the light of what actually happened;perhaps there is a third,as yet unsuspected. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 13. (Anonymous). Ong's Hat:A Color Brochure of the Institute of Chaos Studies (photocopy of the original color brochure) $25 *Note-I am in the process of puting this in a file that will be available here or in my files.This is the only RARE pamphlet from this series that I have been able to procure. - Joseph Matheny mediak@well.sf.ca.us This bizarre document,disguised as a brochure for a New Age health retreat,reveals some interesting information about the activities of Sohrawardi's group or a closely-associated group.a fairly accurate description of the Egg is provided,as well as a believable account of the first (or one of the first) Breakthroughs.However,everthing else in the pamphlet is sheer disinformation.The New Jersey Pine Barrens were never a center of alternate-worlds research,and all the names in the text are false.A non-existant address is included.Nevertheless,highly valuable for background. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14. "Sven Saxon". The Stone Age Survivalist (Loompanics,UnLtd.,Port Townsend,WA 1985),Pb,$20 " Imagine yourself suddenly plunked down buck-nacked in the middle of a large dark forest with no resources except your mind," says the preface."What would you do?" What indeed? and who could possibly care?-except a trans- dimensional Traveller!Loompanics specializes in books on dissapearances and survival involving a good deal of escapist fantasy-but as we know,this situation is all too real for the Visitor to Other Worlds. Part I:Flint-knapping,an exellent illustrated handbook of paleolithic tool-production;II Zero-tech hunting and trapping;III,Gathering (incl. a materia medica); IV, Shelter; V, Primitive warfare; VI,Man & Dog:trans-species symbiosis; VII,Cold weather survival;VIII,Culture ("Sven" recommends memorizing a lot of songs,poems and stories-and ends by saying "Memorize this book-'cause you can't take it with you."Where is "Mr.Saxon now,we wonder?). ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 15. Balcombe,Harold S. Escape From Earth Prime!(Foursquare Press,Denver,Colo.,1986),Pb,$15 This-unfortunately!-is the book that blew the lid off the Conspiracy for the first time.We say "unfortuantely" because ESCAPE!, to all appearances,is a piece of unmitigated paranoid pulp tripe.Written in breathless ungrammatical subFortean prose,unfootnoted and nakedly sensationalistic,the book sank without trace,ignored even by the kook- conspiracy fringe;we were able to buy out unsold stock from the vanity press which published it,just before they went out of business and stopped answering their mail. Balcombe(whom we've been unable to trace and who may have "vanished"),is the author of one other book we've seen-but are not offering for sale-called "Drug Lords from the Hollow Earth"(1984) in which he claims that the CIA obtained LSD and cocaine from Dero-flying- saucer-nazis from beneath Antarctiac.So much for his credentials.How he got hold of even a bit of the authentic Other Worlds story is a miracle. According to Balcombe,the first breakthrough was due not solely to K.Soharawardi-despite his importance as a theoretician-but also a "sinister webwork of cultists,anarchists,commies,fanatical hippies and renegade traitor scientists who made fortunes in the drug trade"(p.3).Balcombe promises to name names,and out of the welter of rant and slather,some hard facts about the pioneers actually emerge. Funding (and some research) emanated in the 70's from a "chaos cabal" of early Silicon Valley hackers interested in complex dynamical systems,randomicity,and chance,and-gambling!-as well as a shadowy group of "drug lords" (Balcombe's favorite term of abuse), with connections to certain founders of the Discordian Illuminati.Money was channelled through a cult called the Moorish Orthodox Church,a loose knit confederation of jazz musicians,oldtime hipsters,white "sufis" and black moslems,bikers and street dealers (see" A Heresologist's Guide to Brooklyn",#24 in this list) who came into contact with Sohrawardi in Millbrook in the mid-60's. Sohrawardi was a naive idealist and somewhat careless about his associations. He received clandestine support from people who were in turn connected to certain Intelligence circles with an interest in psychedelic and fringe mind-science. According to Balcombe this was not the CIA (MK-ULTRA) but an unofficial offshoot of several groups with Masonic connections! The Conspiracy was penetrated almost from the start, but was actually encouraged in the hope of gleaning useful information about parallel worlds, or at least about the "mental conditioning techniques" developed as part of the basic research. By the mid-70's, Sohrawardi and his various cohorts and connections (now loosely referred to as "the Garden of Forked Paths" or GFP) had become aware of the Intelligence circles (now loosely grouped as "Probability Control Force" or PCF) and had in turn planted double- agents, and gone further underground.In 1978 or 79 an actual device for transPdimensional Travel, the "Egg" (also called the Cocoon or the Cucurbit, which means both gourd and alchemical flask) was developed in deepest secrecy, probably at Sohrawardi's institute in Upstate New York, certainly not at a branch lab supposedly hidden away in the NJ Pine Barrens near the long-vanished village of Ong's Hat (see #13 in this list), since no such lab ever existed, nor does it exist now, despite what some fools think. The PCF were unable to obtain an Egg for several years and did not succeed in Breakthrough until (Balcombe believes) 1982.The California groups, however, began EggPproduction and broke through (into "BigSur2") in early 1980 (again, Balcombe's chronology).(Balcombe clearly knows nothing of the situation in Java.) It remains unclear whether the East Coast and West Coast groups both entered the same alternate world, or two different but similar worlds. Communication between the two outposts has so far proved impossible because, as it happens, the Egg will not transport non-sentient matter.Travellers arrive Over There birthPnaked in a Stone Age world - no airplanes, no radio, no clothes ... no fire and no tools! Only the Egg, like a diamond Faberge easter gift designed by Dali, alone in the midst of "Nature naturing".Balcombe includes a dim out-of-focus photo of an Egg, and claims that the machine is part computer but also partly- living crystal, like virus or DNA, and also partly "naked quantumstuff". Eggs are costly to produce, so the early pioneers had to return after each sortie and forego permanent settlement on E2 until a cheaper mode of transport could be discovered.However, emigration via the Egg proved possible when the "tantrik" or "double-yolk" effect was discovered: two people (any combination of age, gender, etc.) can Travel by Egg while making love, especially if one of the pair has already done the trip a few times and "knows the way" without elaborate visualization techniques and so forth.Balcombe has a field day with this juicy information and spends an entire chapter (VIII) detailing the "perversions" in use for this purpose.Talent for Travel ranges from brilliant to zero - probably no more than 15% of humanity can make it, although the less-talented and even children can be "translated" by the tantrik technique - and extensive training methods have somewhat improved the odds.California2 now contains about 1000 emigrants scattered along the coast, and the eastern settlements add up to 500 or 600.A few children have been born "over there" - some can Travel, some can't, although the talented percentage seems greater than among the general population of Earth- prime.And being "stuck" on E2 is no grave punishment in any case!, unless you object to the Garden of Eden and the "original leisure society" of the Paleolithic flintknappers. Balcombe claims that the PCF was severely disappointed by the sentience "law" of Travel, since they had hoped to use the parallel worlds as a weapons-delivery system! Nevertheless they continued to experiment, hoping for a more "mechanistic" technique;meanwhile they devote their efforts to (a)suppressing all information leaks,(b)plotting against the independent GFP and infiltrating the E2 settlements,(c)attempting to open new worlds where technology might be possible.They are however handicapped by a shortage of talent:the kind of person who can Travel is not usually the kind of person who sympathizes with the "patriotic discipline of the PCF" and rogue Masonic groups, but some of these end up defecting and "doubling", and anyway most of them are much too weird for the taste of the rigidly reactionary inner core of PCF leadership, who wonder (as does Balcombe) whether these agents are "any better than the scum they're spying on?" More worlds have been discovered Q E3 and E4 are mentioned in ESCAPE! (and we know that E5 was opened in 1988) Q but all of these are "empty" forest worlds apparently almost identical with E2. In summary, Balcombe's style is execrable and attitude repulsive, but his book remains the most accurate overview of the Conspiracy to date.If you're only going to order one item from us, this is it. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- 16. (Anonymous)."Bionic Travel:An Orgonomic Theory of the Megaverse",(xerox of unpubl. typescript headed "Top Secret Q Eyes Only";27pp),$15 If this paper emanates from PCF sources, as we believe, it indicates the poor quality of original research carried out by the enemies of Sohrawardi and the GFP, and may explain the PCF's relative lack of progress in the field (especially considering their muchPlarger budget!).The author attempts to revive W. Reich's Orgone Theory, with "bions" as "lifePforce particles" and some sort of orgone accumulator (Reich's "box") as a possible substitute for the Egg.An unhealthy interest is shown in "harnessing the force of Deadly Orgone" as a weapon for use on other worlds.References are also made to Aliester Crowley's "sex magick techniques" of the Ordo Templi OrientisQeven speculations on human sacrifice as a possible source of "transdimensional energy".A morbid and crackpot document, devoid of all scientific value (in our opinion) but affording a fascinating insight into PCF mentality and method. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 17. Corbin, Henry. Creative Imagination in the Sufism of Ibn'Arabi (trans. by R.Mannheim;Princeton,NJ,1969),cloth,$50;Pb,$20 One of the few books mentioned by title in the Catalogue of the Inst. of Chaos Studies & Imaginal Yoga (see #9 in this list).The "mundus imaginalis", also called the World of Archetypes or the "Isthmus" (Arabic, barzakh), lies inPbetween the World of the Divine and the material World of Creation. It actually consists of "many worlds", including two "emerald cities" called Jabulsa and Jabulqa (very intriguing considering the situation on Java2!). The great 14thPcentury HispanoPMoorish sufi Ibn'Arabi developed a metaphysics of the "Creative Imagination" by which the adept could achieve spiritual progress via direct contemplation of the archetypes, including the domains of djinn, spirits and angels. Ibn'Arabi also speaks of seven alternate Earths created by Allah, each with its own Mecca and Kaaba! Some parallelPuniverse theorists believe that Travel without any tech (even the Egg) may be possible, claiming that certain mystics have already accomplished it.If so, then Ibn'Arabi must have been one of them. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 18. Gleick, James. CHAOS: Making a New Science (Viking Penguin, NY,1987),cloth,254pp,$30 The first and still the most complete introduction to chaos Q required reading Q BUT with certain caveats.First: Gleick has no philosophical or poetic depth; he actually begins the book with a quote from John Updike! No mention of chaos mythology or oriental sources. No mention of certain nonPAmerican chaos scientists such as Rene Thom and Ilya Prigogine! Instead, alongside the admittedly useful info, one gets a subtle indoctrination in "deterministic chaos", by which we mean the tendency to look on chaos as a weapon to fight chaos, to "save" Classical physics Q and learn to predict the Stock Market! (As opposed to what we call the "quantum chaos" of Sohrawardi and his allies, which looks on chaos as a creative and negentropic source, the cornucopia of evolution and awareness.) Warning: we suspect Gleick of being a PCF agent who has embedded his text with subtle disinformation meant to distract the chaosPscience community from any interest in "other worlds". ----------------------------------------------------------------------- --- 19. Pak Hardjanto. "Apparent Collapse of the Wave Function as an nPDimensional Catastrophe" (trans.by "N.N.S."in Collected Papers of the SE Asian Soc.for Advanced Research,Vol.XXIX,1980),47pp,xerox of offprint,$15 An early paper by the littlePknown scientific director of the Javanese "Travel Cult" which succeeded in breakthrough, possibly in the year this essay was published or shortly thereafter.Hardjanto is known to have been in touch with Sohrawardi since the 60's;no doubt they shared all information, but each kept the other secret from their respective organizations.The pioneers of Java2 became known to the GFP and PCF only around 1984 or 85. This article, the only scientific work we possess by Hardjanto, shows him to be a theoretician equal or even superior to Sohrawardi himself Q and if Hardjanto is also the anonymous author of the following item, as we believe, then he appears a formidable "metaphysicist" as well! "Apparent Collapse", while certainly not a blueprint for Egg construction, nevertheless constitutes one of the few bits of "hard" science published openly on our Subject.Unfortunately, its theorems and diagrams are doubtless comprehensible only to a handful of experts.The topological drawings literally boggle the mind, especially one entitled "Hypercube Undergoing 'Collapse' Into 5PSpace Vortex"! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- --- 20. (Unsigned, probably by Pak Hardjanto).A Vision of Hurqalya (trans.by K.K.Sardono; Incunabula Press, 1988),Pb,46pp,$20 The Indonesian original of this text appeared as a pamphlet in Yogjakarta (E.Java) in 1982.We ourselves at Incunabula commissioned the translation and have published this handsome edition, including all the illustrations from the original, at our own expense. If one knew nothing about the Conspiracy or ManyPWorlds Theory, A Vision would seem at first to be a mystical tract by an adherent of kebatinan, the heterodox sufiPinfluenced freeform esoteric/syncretistic complex of sects which has come to be influential in GFP circles, inasmuch as the idea of "spiritual master" (guru, murshed) has been replaced by "teacher" (pamong);some kebatinan sects utilize spontaneous nonPhierarchical organizational structures. However, in the light of our knowledge of the material existence of other worlds, Vision takes on a whole new dimension Q as a literal description of what Hardjanto and his fellow pioneers found on Java2. They discovered another uninhabited world Q but with one huge difference.The author of Vision steps out of his "alchemical Egg" into a vast and ancient abandoned City! He calls it Hurqalya (after a traditional sufi name for the Other World or alamPe mithal).He senses his total aloneness Q feels that the City's builders have long since moved on elsewhere Q and yet that they still somehow somewhere exist. The author compares Hurqalya to the ancient ruined city of Borobadur in E.Java, but notices immediately that there are no statues or images Q all the decoration is abstract and severe Q but "neither Islamic nor Buddhist nor Hindu nor Christian nor any style I ever saw".The "palaces" of Hurqalya are grand, cyclopaean, almost monolithic Q far from "heavy" in atmosphere, despite the black basalt from which they seem to have been carved.For the City is cut through by water ... it is in fact a waterPcity in the style of the Royal Enclave of Yogjakarta (now so sadly derelict) Q but incomparably bigger.Canals, aqueducts, rivers and channels crisscross and meander through the City; flowing originally from quiescent volcanic mountains looming green in the West, Water flows down through the City which is built on a steep slope gradually curving into a basin and down to the placid Eastern Sea, where a hundred channels flow dark and clear into the green salt ocean. Despite the air of ruin Q huge trees have grown through buildings, splitting them open Q mosses, ferns and orchids coat the crumbling walls with viridescence, hosting parrots, lizards, butterflies Q despite this desolation, most of the waterworks still flow: canalPlocks broken open centuries ago allow cascades, leaks, spills and waterfalls in unexpected places, so that the City is wrapped in a tapestry of waterPsounds and songbird voices.Most amazingly, the water flows at different levels simultaneously, so that aqueducts cross over canals which in turn flow above sunken streams which drip into wells, underground cisterns and mysterious sewers in a bewildering complex of levels, pipes, conduits and irrigated garden terraces which resemble (to judge by the author's sketches) a dreamscape of Escher or Piranesi.Viewed from above, the City would be mapped as an arabesque 3PD spederweb (with waterbridges aboveground, streams at ground level and also underground) fanning out to fill the area of the basin, thence into the harbor with its huge cracked basaltPblock docks. The slope on which the City is built is irregularly terraced in ancient SE Asian style Q as many staircases as streets thread their way up and down, laid out seemingly at randowm, following landPcontours rather than gridPlogic, adding to the architectural complexity of the layer of waterways with a maze of vinePencrusted overpasses, arched bridges, spiralling ramps, crooked alleyways, cracked hidden steps debouching on broad esplanades, avenues, parks gone to seed, pavilions, balconies, apartments, junglePchoked palazzos, echoing gloomy "temples" whose divinities, if any, seem to have left no forwarding address ... all empty, all utterly abandoned.And nowhere is there any human debris Q no broken tools, bones or midden heaps, no evidence of actual habitation Q as if the ancient builders of the City picked up and took everything with them when they departed Q "perhaps to one of the other Seven Worlds of the alamPe mithal" Q in other words, to a "higher dimension. Thus ends the Vision of Hurqalya Q raising more questions than it answers! There is no doubt that it describes exactly what was discovered in Java2 in 1980 or 81.But if the "observerPcreated" theory of otherPworlds Travel is true, "Hurqalya" represents the "imaginal imprint" of what Hardjanto (or whoever) expected to find.Yet again, if that theory is false ... who built Hurqalya? One current explanation (arising from timePdistortion theorems which have so far remained unsolvable) suggests that the Builders "moved" in prehistoric times to EarthPprime and became the distant ancestors of the Javanese ("Java Man"). Another guess: the Builders have indeed moved on to a "distant" alternate universe, and eventually we may find them. A small settlement now exists in Hurqalya.Once the American groups heard of the City's existence, members of both the GFP and PFC were able to visualize it and Travel to it from America (the Javanese can do the same from JavaPprime to America2). Since 1985 all three groups have expanded most of their exploratory effort on "opening up" new worlds in the Java series.Apparently Indonesian sorcerers and trance adepts are very good at this, and we believe they have reached Java7 Q without, however, finding replications of the City or any trace of the Builders Q only more empty forest. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- --- 21. Von Bitter Rucker, Dr R." 'The Cat Was Alive, But Looked Scared As Hell': Some Unexpected Properties of Cellular Automata in the Light of the EverettPWheeler Hypothesis" (Complex Dynamical Systems Newsletter no.8,1989),offprint,$10 Who is this man and what does he know? No other serious mathematician has so far made any connection between cellular automata and the Many Worlds.TonguePinPcheek (?), the author suggests that Schrodinger's poor cat might be both alive and dead, even after the box is opened, IF parallel universes are "stacked" in some arcane manner which he claims to be able to demonstrate with a piece of software he has hacked and is selling for an outrageous sum;we have also seen and ad for this program in a magazine called MONDO 2000, published in Berkeley and devoted to "reality hacking".We'd love to know what certain members of the Conspiracy would make of this bizarre concept! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- --- 22. Kennedy, Alison. "Psychotropic Drugs in 'SharedPWorld'& Lucid Dreaming Experiments" (Psychedelic Monographs & Essays, Vol.XIV,no.2,1981,offprint,$5 This writer appears to have inside information.The notion of a drugPinduced hallucination so powerful it can be shared by many (in a proper "blind" experiment) and can actually come into existence, into material reality;the idea that drugPenhanced lucid dreaming can be used to discover objective information from "other ontological levels of being";and finally the "prediction" that "a combination of these methods utilizing computerPaided biofeedback monitoring devices" will actually make it possible to "visit 'other' worlds in 'inner' space" (which suggests that the author adheres to the "observerPcreated" theory of parallel universes) Q all this leads us to believe that the author is probably a member of one of the California Travel Cults Q as well as an expert bruja! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- --- 23. (Anonymous). A Collection of Cult Pamphlets, Flyers, Ephemera & Curiosa from the Library of a Traveller (Looseleaf portfolio of photocopied originals) sold by lot,$25 The unknown compiler of this Collection (whom for convenience we'll call "X") left it behind when he "vanished", whence it came into our possession.We know something of the compiler's career from an untitled document written by him and found with the Collection, which we call The Poetic Journal of a Traveller (#24 in this list), as well as a pamphlet believed to be by the same author, Folklore of the Other Worlds (#25).(The Ong's Hat Color Brochure was also discovered in the same cache, and is sold by us as #13.) The Collection contains the following items: 1) A History & Catechism of the Moorish Orthodox Church, which traces the origins of the sect to early (1913) American Black Islam, the "Wandering Bishops", the Beats of the 50s and the psychedelic churches movement of the 60s Q deliberately vague about the 70s and 80s however. 2) The World Congress of Free Religions, a brochurePmanifesto arguing for a "fourth way", a nonPauthoritarian spiritual movement in opposition to mainstream, fundamentalist and New Age religion.The WCFR is said to include various sects of Discordians, SubGeniuses, Coptic Orthodox People of the Herb, gay ("faery") neoPpagans, Magical Judaism, the Egyptian Church of New Zealand, Kaos Kabal of London, Libertarian Congregationalists, etc.Q and the Moorish Orthodox Church.Several of these sects are implicated in the Conspiracy, but no overt mention of the Travel Cults is made here. 3) Spiritual Materialism, by "the New Catholic Church of the Pantarchy, Hochkapel von SS Max und Marx", a truly weird flyer dedicated to "Saints" Max Stirner and Karl Marx, representing a group claiming foundation by the 19th century Individualist Stephen Pearl Andrews, but more likely begun in the 1980s as a Travel Cult.Uses Nietzsche to contend that material reality itself constitutes a (or the) spiritual value and the principle of Infinity "which is expressed in the existence of many worlds." It argues for a utopia based on "individualism, telepathic socialism, free love, high tech, Stone Age wilderness and quantum weirdness"! No address is given, needless to say. 4) The Sacred Jihad of Our Lady of Chaos, this otherwise untraceable group calls for "resistance to all attempts to control probability." It quotes Foucault and Baudrillard on the subject of "disappearance", then suggests that "to vanish without having to kill yourself may be the ultimate revolutionary act ... The monolith of Consensus Reality is riddled with quantumPchaos cracks ... Viral attack on all fronts! Victory to Chaos in every world!" 5) The Temple of Antinous, a Travel Cult of pedophile boyPlovers and neoPpagans devoted to Eros and Ganymede. (Warning: this leaflet contains some justPbarelyPlegal graphic material.) "Wistfully we wonder if the boygod can manifest only in some other world than this dreary puritanical polluted boobocracy Q then, gleefully, we suddenly recall: there ARE other worlds!" 6) A Collage, presumably made by X himself, consisting of a "mandala" constructed from cutPouts of Strange Attractors and various Catastrophic topologies interwoven with photos of young girls and boys clipped from Italian fashion magazines.Eroticizing the mathematical imagery no doubt helps one to remember and visualize it while operating the Egg. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- --- 24. (Anonymous). Poetic Journal of a Traveller; or, A Heresologist's Guide to Brooklyn (Incunabula Press,pamphlet,$15. Believed to be by "X",the compiler of the Collection,&transcribed by us from manuscript.) Apparently X began this MS with the intention of detailing his experiences with a Travel Cult and eventual "translation" to the various alternatePworld settlements, but unfortunately abandoned the project early on, possibly due to PCF interference. It begins with a summary account of X's spiritual quest, largely among the stranger sects of his native Brooklyn: Santeria in Coney Island, Cabala in Williamsburg, sufis on Atlantica Avenue, etc.He is disappointed or turned away (and even mugged on one occasion). He becomes friendly with a Cuban woman of mixed Spanish, black, amerindian and Chinese ancestry who runs a botanica (magical supplies and herbs). When he asks her about "other worlds", she is evasive but promises to introduce him to someone who knows more about such matters. She orders her grandPdaughter, a 14PyearPold named Teofila, to escort X through the "rough neighborhoods" to the old man's shop.The girl is wearing a tPshirt that says "Hyperborean Skateboarding Association", and indeed travels by skateboard, "gliding on ahead of me like Hermes the Psychopomp." X is clearly attracted to Teofila and becomes embarrassedly tonguePtied and awkward. The old man, called "the Shaykh", who claims to be Sudanese but speaks "pure Alabaman", runs a junk shop and wears a battered old Shriners fez.His attitude toward X is severe at first, but X is enchanted by his rather disjointed rambling and ranting Q which reveal a surprisingly wide if erratic reading in Persian poetry, the Bible, Meister Eckhardt, William Blake, Yoruba mythology and quantum mechanics. Leaving the girl in the shop, the old man takes X into his back office, "crowded with wildly eclectic junk, naive paintings, cheap orientalismo, HooDoo candles, jars of flower petals, and an ornate potbellied stove, stoked up to cherryred, suffusing waves of drowsy warmth." The Shaykh intimidates X into sharing a big pipe of hashish mixed with amber and mescaline, then launches into a streamPofPconsciousness attack on "Babylon, the Imperium, the Con, the Big Lie that there's nowhere to go and nothing to buy except their fifthPrate imitations of life, their bullshit piePinPthePsky religions, cold cults, cold cuts of selfPmutilation I call 'em, and woe to Jerusalem!" X, now "stoned to the gills", falls under the Shaykh's spell and bursts into tears.At once the old man unbends, serves X a cup of tea "sweetblack as Jamaica run and scented with cardamon", and begins to drop broad hints about "a way out, not to some gnosticPneverPland with the body gone like a fart in a sandstorm, no brother, for the Unseen World is not just of the spirit but also the flesh Q Jabulsa and Jabulqa, Hyperborea, Hurqalya Q they're as real as Brooklyn but a damn sight prettier!" Late afternoon; X must return home before dark, and prepare to take leave of the Shaykh Q who gives him a few pamphlets and invites him to return.To X's surprise, Teofila is still waiting outside the shop, and offers to escort him to the subway.The girl is now in a friendlier mood and X less nervous.They strike up a conversation, X asking about Hyperborea and Teofila answering, "Yeah, I know where it is Q I've been there." The main narrative ends here, but we have added some other poetic fragments included with the original MS, despite the fact that they might offend some readers, in light of the importance of the "tantrik technique" of otherPworld Travel. (And let us remind you that a statement of age must be included with every order from Incunabula Inc.). These rather pornographic fragments suggest that X, too shy to attempt anything himself, was in fact seduced by Teofila, and that his subsequent "training" for EggPnavigation consisted of numerous "practice sessions for doublePyolking" with a very enthusiastic young tutor. We believe that X subsequently made an extended visit to America2 and Java2, that he returned to EarthPprime on some Intelligence or sabotage mission for the GFP, that he composed a paper on Folklore of the Other Worlds (see #25), that he and Teofila somehow came to the attention of PCF agents in New York, aborted their mission and returned to Java2, where they presumably now reside. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- --- 25. (Anonymous). Folklore of the Other Worlds (Incunabula Press,pamphlet,$15.By the same author as #24,transcribed by us from manuscript.) Our anonymous Traveller from Brooklyn appears to have composed this little treatise after his first extended stay in E2.It deals with tales of Travellers and inhabitants of the otherPworld settlements, pioneers' experiences and the like.Of great interest is the claim that ESP and other paranormal abilities increase in the parallel universes, that the effect is magnified by passing through the series of discovered "levels", and that a small band of psychic researchers has therefore settled on Java7, the present frontier world.The "temple" of Hurqalya (or whatever these vast buildings may have been) are used for sessions of meditation, martial arts and psychic experimentation. X claims that telepathy is now accepted as fact "over there," with strong evidence for telekinesis and perhaps even EggPless Travel. Also intriguing are various accounts of "spirits" seen or sensed around the settlements, werePanimals supposedly glimpsed on higher levels, and legends which have arisen concerning the lost Builders of Hurqalya.Something of a cult has grown up around these hypothetical creatures who (it is said) are "moving toward us even as we move toward them, through the dimensions, through Time Q perhaps backwards through Time"! X points out that this legend strikes an eerie resonance with "complex conjugate wave theory" in quantum mechanics, which hypothesizes that the "present" (the megaverse "now") is the result of the meeting of two infinite quantum probabililty waves, one moving from past to future, the other moving from future to past Q that space/time is an interference effect of these two waves Q and that the many worlds are bubbles on this shoreline! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- --- 26. Eliade, Mircea. Shamanism: Archaic Techniques of Ecstasy (Univ.of Chicago Press),Pb,$30 This "bible" of the modern neoPshamanic movement also served as a metaphorical scripture for the pioneers of interdimensional consciousness physics and alternatePworld explorers.Not only does it contain innumerable practical hints for the Traveller, as well as a spiritual ambience conducive to the proper state of mind for Travel Q it is also believed that Eliade's mythic material on the prototypal Stone Age shamans who could physically and actually visit other worlds, offers strong evidence for the possibility of EggPless Travel Q which however so far remains in the realm of "folklore", speculation and rumor. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- --- 27. Lorde, John. Maze of Treason (Red Knight Books, Wildwood,NJ,1988),Pb,204 pp,$10 You may remember that after the Patty Hearst kidnapping it was discovered that a cheap pornographic thriller, published before the event, seemed to foretell every detail of the story.Jungian synchronicity? Or did the Symbionese Liberation Army read that book and decide to act it out? It remains a mystery. Maze of Treason is also a pornographic thriller, complete with tawdry 4Pcolor cover, sloppy printing on acidulous pulp, and horrendous style.It's marketed as Science Fiction, however.And there is no mystery about the author's inside knowledge."John Lorde" not only knows about the Conspiracy, he's obviously been there.This book is probably a roman a clef, as it appears to contain distorted portraits of Sohrawardi and Harjanto (depicted as FuPManchuPtype villains) as well as several actual agents of both the GFP and PCF Q and even a character apparently based on the realPlife "X", author of several titles in our list (#s 24 & 25). The hero, Jack Masters, is an agent of an unnamed spyforce of American patriots who jokingly call themselves the Quantum Police.Their mission is to regain control of the alternate worlds for "the forces of reason and order" and "make trouble for agents of chaos in every known universe." The QPCops' secret underground HDQ contains a number of Eggs granting access to hidden bases on the other worlds, including "the Other America" and "the Other Indonesia". Jack Masters is investigating the activities of a Chaote named Ripley Taylor, a "childPmolester and black magician> who runs a Travel Cult out of a comicbook store in a "raciallyPmixed neighborhood" of New York.The Cops hope to catch Taylor with his "juvenile delinquent girlfriend", blackmail him and turn him into a double agent. The hero now becomes involved with Amanita, a beautiful woman performance artist from the Lower East Side who seems to know a lot about Taylor and the Travel Cult, but also seems quite attracted to the virile Jack Masters.At first he suspects her of duplicity, but soon decides he needs to "convert" her by making her "fall for me, and fall hard." Jack's problem is that his own "talent" will not suffice for solo Travelling, and in fact he has never managed to "get across" Q since the Cops do not practice Tantrik techniques! He suspects her of being an "OtherPWorlder" and hopes she can convey him thence via the "infamous 'doublePyolk' method." Meanwhile Taylor has laughed off the blackmail attempt, burned down the comic shop and escaped "into the fourth dimension Q or maybe the fifth." Masters heats up his affair with the artist Amanita, and finally convinces her to "translate" him Q after three chapters of unininterrupted porno depicting the pair in many littlePknown ritual practises, so to speak. (The author rises above his own mediocrity here, and attains something like "purple pulp", an inspired gush of horny prose, especially in the oralPgenital area.) Masters now rises to the occasion for yet a fourth chapter in which a "governmentPissue Egg" becomes the setting for a "yabPyum ceremony of searing obscenity." Immediately upon arrival in "Si Fan" (the author's name for Hurqalya), Amanita betrays our hero and turns him over naked to one of the tribes of "chaosPshamans who inhabit these Lemurian ruins". At this point Maze begins to add to our knowledge of the realPlife situation by depicting morePorPless accurately the state of affairs and mode of life in presentPday Hurqalya Q at least, as seen through the eyes of a paranoid rightPwing spy. The thousand or so inhabitants have made few changes in Hurqalya, preferring a life of "primitive sloth" and minimal meddling with Nature.Sex, hallucinogenic mushrooms and songPimprovisation contests comprise the nightPlife, with days devoted to the serious business of "sorcery, skinnydipping, flintknapping and maybe a couple of hours of desultory fishing or berrypicking." There is no social order."People with bones in their noses sitting around arguing about Black Hole Theory or recipes for marsupial stew Q lazy smoke from a few clan campfires rising through the hazy bluegold afternoon Q children masturbating in trees Q bees snouting into orchids Q signal drum in the distance Q Amanita singing an old song by the Inkspots I remember from my childhood..." Masters Q or rather the author Q claims to be disgusted by all this "anarchist punk hippy immorality Q all this jungle love!" Q but his ambivalence is revealed in his continued desire for Amanita, and the ease with which he falls into his own curmudgeonly version of dolce far niente in "Si Fan". We won't give away the rest of the plot, not because it's so great, but because it's largely irrelevant (Taylor flees to distant dimensions, Masters gets Girl and returns to EarthPprime in triumph, etc.,etc.) Q the book's true value lies in these pictures of daily life in Hurqalya.Sadly, Maze of Treason is still our only source for such material. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- --- The Conspiracy to deny the world all knowledge of the Many Worlds is maintained by both the forces active in the parallel universes Q the GFP and PCF both have their reasons for secrecy, evasion, lies, disinformation, distortion and even violence.Maze of Treason is not our only source for claiming that people have lost their lives as a result of getting too deeply involved in all this. But we at INCUNABULA believe that truth will out, because it must. To stand in the way of it is more dangerous than letting it loose. Freedom of information is our only protection Q we will tell all, despite all scorn or threat, and trust that our "going public" will protect us from the outrage of certain private interests Q if not from the laughter of the ignorant! Remember: parallel worlds exist. They have already been reached. A vast coverPup denies YOU all knowledge. Only INCUNABULA can enlighten you, because only INCUNABULA dares. Thank You, Emory Cranston, Prop. ============================================================================= In modern thought, (if not in fact) hermes@selway.umt.edu Nothing is that doesn't act, So that is reckoned wisdom which Describes the scratch but not the itch. - Anonymous ============================================================================= From hermes@selway.umt.edu Tue Apr 5 06:38:28 1994 Received: from selway.umt.edu by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA03042; Tue, 5 Apr 94 06:37:01 -0700 Received: by selway.umt.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA18490; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 07:36:58 -0600 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 07:36:57 -0600 (MDT) From: - Subject: Incunabula, Part 2 To: w00f Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR ONG'S HAT: GATEWAY TO THE DIMENSIONS! A full color brochure for the Institute of Chaos Studies and the Moorish Science Ashram in Ong's Hat,New Jersey. Introductions ------------ You would not be reading this brochure if you had not already penetrated half-way to the ICS.You have been searching for us without knowing it, following oblique references in crudely xeroxed marginal 'samsidat" publications,crackpot mystical pamphlets,mailorder courses in "Kaos Magick"-a paper trail and a coded series of rumors spread at street level through circles involved in the illicit distribution of certain controlled substances and the propagation of certain acts of insurrection against the Planetary Work Machine and the Consensus Reality-or perhaps through various obscure mimeographed technical papers on the edges of "chaos science"-through pirate computer networks-or even through pure syncronicity and the pursuit of dreams. In any case we know something about you,your interests,deeds and desires,works and days-and we know your address. Otherwise...you would not be reading this brochure. Background ---------- During the 1970s and '80s, "chaos" began to emerge as a new scientific paradigm,on a level of importance with Relativity and Quantum Mechanics.It was born out of the mixing of many different sciences-weather prediction,Catastrophe Theory,fractal geometry, and the rapid development of computer graphics capable of plunging into the depths of fractals and "strange attractors;"hydraulics and fluid turbulence,evolutionary biology,mind/brain studies and psychopharmacology also played major roles in forming the new paradigm. The slogan "order out of chaos" summed up the gist of this science,whether it studied the weird fractional- dimensional shapes underlying sworls of cigarette smoke or the distribution of colors in marbled paper-or else dealt with "harder" matters such as heart fibrillation,particle beams or population vectors. However,by the late '80s it began to appear as if this "chaos movement" had split apart into two opposite and hostile world-views,one placing emphasis on chaos itself,the other on *order*. According to the latter sect-the Determinists-chaos was the enemy,randomness a force to be overcome or denied.They experienced the new science as a final vindication of Classical Newtonian physics,and as a weapon to be used *against* chaos,a tool to map and predict reality itself.For them, chaos was death and disorder, entropy and waste. The opposing faction however experienced chaos as something benevolent, the necessary matrix out of which arises spontaneously an infinity of variegated forms-a pleroma rather than an abyss-a principle of continual creation, unstructured, fecund, beautiful, spirit of wildness.These scientists saw chaos theory as vindication of Quantum indeterminacy and Godel's Proof, promise of an open-ended universe, Cantorian infinities of potential...chaos as *health*. Easy to predict which of these two schools of thought would recieve vast funding and support from goverments, multi-nationals and intelligence agencies.By the end of the decade, "Quantum/Chaos" had been forced underground, virtually censored by prestigious scientific journals-which published only papers by Determinists. The dissidents were reduced to the level of the *margin*- and there they found themselves part of yet another branch of the paradigm,the underground of cultural chaos- the "magicians"-and of political chaos-extremist anti- authoritarian "mutants". Unlike Relativity, which deals with the Macrocosm of outer space,and Quantum, which deals with the Microcosm of particle physics, chaos science takes place largely within the Mesosphere-the world as we experience it in "everyday life".,from dripping faucets to banners flapping in the autumn breezes.Precisely for this reason useful experimental work in chaos can be carried on without the hideous expense of cyclotrons and orbital observatories. So even when the leading theoreticians of Quantum/Chaos began to be fired from university and corporate positions,they were still able to pursue certain goals.Even when they began to suffer political pressures as well, and sought refuge and space among the mutants and marginals, still they perservered.By a paradox of history, their poverty and obscurity forced them to narrow the scope of their research to precisely those areas which would ultimately produce concrete results- pure math, and the mind-simply because these areas were relatively inexpensive. Up until the crash of '87, the "alternative network" amounted to little more than a nebulous weave of pen- pals and computer enthusiasts,Whole Earth nostalgists, futurologists, anarchists, food cranks, neo-pagans and cultists, self-publishing punk poets, armchair schizophrenics, survivalists and mail artists.The Crash however opened vast but hard-to-see cracks in the social and economic control structures of America.Gradually the marginals and mutants began to fill up those fissures with the wegs of their own networking.Bit by bit they created a genuine black economy, as well as a shifting insubstantial"autonomous zone", impossible to map but real enough in its various manifestations. The orphaned scientists of Q/C theory fell into this invisible anti-empire like a catalyst-or perhaps it was the other way around.In either case, something crystallized.To explain the precipitation of this jewel, we must move on to the specific cases, people and stories. History ------- The Moorish Orthodox Church of America is an offshoot of the Moorish Science Temple, the New World's first Islamic heretical sect, founded by a black circus magicain named Noble Drew Ali in Newark, New jersey in 1913.In the 1950s some white jazz musicians and poets who held "passports" in the M.S.T. founded the Moorish Orthodox Church, which also traced its spiritual ancestry to various "Wandering Bishops" loosely affiliated with the Old Catholic Church and schisms of Syrian Orthodoxy. In the '60s the church acquired a new direction from the Psychedelic Movement, and for a while maintained a presence at T.Leary's commune in Millbrook, New York.At the same time the discovery of sufism led certain of its members to undertake journeys to the East. One of these Americans, known by the Moorish name Wali Fard, travelled for years in India, Perisa, and Afghanistan, where he collected an impressive assortment of exotic initiations:Tantra in Calcutta, from an old member of the Bengali Terrorist Party;sufism from the Ovayssi Order in Shiraz, which rejects all human masters and insists on visionary experience; and finally, in the remote Badakhshan Province of Afghanistan, he converted to an archaic form of Ismailism (the so-called Assassins) blended out of Buddhist Yab-Yum teachings, indigenous shamanic sorcery and extremist Shiite revolutionary philosophy-worshippers of the *Umm al- kitab*,the "Matrix Book." Up until the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and the reactionary orthodox "revolution" in Iran,Fard carried on trade in carpets and other well-known Afghan exports.When history forced him to return to America in 1978, he was able to launder his savings by purchasing about 200 acres of land in the New Jersey Pine Barrens.Around the turn of the decade he moved into an old rod & gun club on the property along with several runaway boys from Paramus,New Jersey, and an anarchist lesbian couple from Brooklyn, and founded the Moorish Science Ashram. Through the early-to-mid-'80s the commune's fortunes fluctuated (sometimes nearly flickering out).Fard self- published a series of xeroxed "Visionary Recitals" in which he attempted a synthesis of heretical and antinomian spirituality,post-Situationist politics, and chaos science.After the Crash, a number of destitute Moors and synpathizers began turning up at the Ashram seeking refuge.Among them were two young chaos scientists recently fired from Princeton (on a charge of "seditious nonesense"), a brother and sister,Frank and Althea Dobbs. The Dobbs twins spent their early childhood on a UFO-cult commune in rural Texas,founded by their father, a retired insurance salesman who was murdered by rogue disciples during a revival in California.One might say that the siblings had a head start in chaos-and the Ashram's modus vivendi suited them admirably.(The Pine Barrens have often been called "a perfect place for a UFO landing.")They settled into an old Airstream trailer and constructed a crude laboratory in a rebuilt barn hidden deep in the Pines.Illegal sources of income were available from agricultural projects, and the amorphous community took shape around the startling breakthroughs made by the Dobbs twins during the years around the end of the decade. As undergraduates at the University of Texas the siblings had produced a series of equations which, they felt certain, contained the seeds of a new science they called "cognitive chaos."Their dimissal from Princeton followed their attempt to submit these theorems, along with a theoretical/philosphical system built upon them, as a joint PhD thesis. On the assumption that brain activity can be modeled as a "fractal universe," an outre' topology interfacing with both random and determined forces, the twins' theorems showed that consciousness itself could be presented as a set of "starnge attractors" (or "patterns of chaos") around which specific neuronal activity would organize itself.By a bizzare synthesis of mandelbrot and Cantor, they "solved the problem" of n-dimensional attractors, many of which they were able to generate on Princeton's powerful computers before their hasty departure.While realizing the ultimately indeterminate nature of these "mind maps," they felt that by attaining a thorough (non- intuitive and intuitive) grasp of the actual *shapes* of the attractors, one could "ride with chaos" somewhat as a "lucid dreamer" learns to contain and direct the process of REM sleep.Their aborted thesis suggested a boggling array of benefits which might accrue from such from such links between cybernetic processes and awareness itself, includiing the exploration of the brain's unused capacities, awareness of the morphogentic field and thus conscious control of autonomic functions, mind-directed repair of tissue at the cellular/genetic level (control over most diseases and the aging process), and even a direct perception of the Heisenbergian behavior of matter ( a process they called "surfing the wave function").Their thesis advisor told them that even the most modest of these proposals would suffice for their expungement from the Graduate Faculty-and if the whole concept (including theorems) were not such obvious lunacy, he would have reported them to the FBI as well. Two more scientists-already residents of Ong's Hat- joined with Fard and the twins in founding the Institute of Chaos studies.By sheer "chance" their work provided the perfect counterparts to the Dobbs' research.Harold Acton, an expatriate British computer-(and reality- )hacker, had already linked 64 second-hand personal computers into a vast ad-hoc system based on his own _I_ Ching_ oriented speculations.And Martine Kallikak, a native of the Barrens from nearby Chatsworth, had set up a machine shop. Ironically, Martine's ancestors once provided guinea pigs for a notorious studt in eugenics carried out in the 1920s at the Vineland NJ State Home for the Insane.Published as a study in "heredity and feeblemindness," the work proclaimed poverty, non-ordinary sexuality, reluctance to hold a steady job, and enjoyment of intoxicants as *proofs* of genetic decay-and thus made a lasting contribution to the legend of bizarre and lovecraftian Piney backwoodspeople, incestuous hermits of the bogs. Martine had long since proven herself a *bricoleuse*, electronics buff and back-lot inventor of great genius and artistry.With the arrival of the Dobbs twins, she discovered her tre metier' in the realization of various devices for the implementation of their proposed experiments. The synergy levelat the ICS exceeded all expectations.Contacts with other underground experts in various related fields were maintained by "black modem" as well as personal visits to the Ashram. The spiritual rhythms permeating the place proved ideal:periods of dazed lazy contemplation and applied hedonics alternating with "peak" bursts of self-overcoming activity and focused attention.The hodgepodge of "Moorish Science" (Tntra,sufism,Ismaili esotericism,alchemy and psychopharmacology,bio-feedback and "brai machine" meditation techniques,etc.) seemed to harmonize in unexpectedly fruitful ways with the "pure" science of the ICS. Under these conditions progress proved amazingly swift, stunning even the Institutes founders.Within a year major advances had been made in all the fields predicted by the equations.Somewhat more than three years after founding there occurred *the* breakthrough, the discovery which served to re-orient our entire project in a new direction:the Gate. But to explain the Gate we must retrace some step, and reveal exactly the purposes and goals of the ICS and Moorish Science Ashram-the curriculum upon which our activities are based, and which constitutes our *raison d'etre.* The Curriculum -------------- The original and still ultimate concern of our community is the enhancement of consciousness and consequent enlargement of mental, emotional and psychic activities.When the Ashram was founded by W.Fard the only means available for this work were the bagful of oriental and occultist meditational techniques he had learned in Central Asia, the first-generation "mind machines" developed during the '80s, and the resources of exotic pharmacology. With the first successes of the Dobbs twin's research, it became obvious to us that the spiritual knowledge of the Ashramites could be re-organized into a sort of prearatory course of training for workers in "Cognitive Chaos."This does not mean we surrendered our original purpose-attainmeny of non-ordinary consciousness-but simply that ICS work could be viewed as a prolongation and practical application of the Ashram work.The theorems allow us to re-define "self liberation" to include physical self-renewal and life-extension as well as the exploration of material reality which (we maintain) remains *one* with the reality of consciousness.In this project, the kind of awareness fostered by meditational techniques plays a part just as vital as the *techne'* of machines and the pure mentation of mathematics. In this scenario, the theorems-or at least a philosophical understanding of them-serve the purpose of an abstract *icon* for contemplation.Thus the theorems camn be absorbed or englobed to the point where they become part of the inner structure (or "deep grammar" ) of the mind itself. In the first stage, intellectual comprehension of the theorems parallels spiritual work aimed at refining the faculty of *attention*.At the same time a kind of psychic anchor is constructed, a firm grounding in celebratory body-awareness.The erotic and sensual for us cannot be ritualized and aimed at anything "higher" than themselves- rather, they constitute the very *ground* on which our dance is performed, and the atmosphere oor *taste* which permeates or whole endeavor. We symbolize this first course of work by the tripartite Sanskrit term *satchitananda*, "Being/consciousness/bliss"-the ontological level symbolized by the theorems, the psychological level by the meditation, the level of joy by our "tantrik" activity. The second course (which can begin at any time during or after the first) involves practiacl instruction in a variety of "hard sciences", especially evolutionary biology and genetics, brain physiology, Quantum Mechanics and computer hacking.We have no need for these disciplines in any academic sense-in fact our work has already overturned many existing paradigms in these fields and rendered the textbooks useless for our purposes-so we have tailored these courses specifically for relevance to our central concern, and jettisoned everything extraneous. At this point a Fellow of the ICS is prepared for woork with the device we call the "egg."This consists of a modified sensory-deprivation chamber in which attention can be focused on a computer terminal and screen.Electrodes are taped to various body parts to provide physiological data which is fed into the computer.The explorere now dons a peculiar helmet, a highly sophisticated fourth-generation version of the early "brain machines," which can sonically stimulate brain cells either globally or locally and in various combinations, thus directing not only "brain waves" but also highly specific menatl-physical functions.The helmet is also plugged into the computer and provides feedback in various programmed ways. The explorer now undertakes a series of exercises in which the theorems are used to generate graphic animations of the "strange attractors" which map various states of consciousness, setting up feedback loops between this "iconography" and the actual states themselves, which are in turn generated through the helmet simultaneously with their representation on the screen.Certain of these exercises involve the "alchemical" use of mind-active drugs, including new vasopressin derivatives, beta-endorphins and hallucinogens (usually in "threshold" dosages).Some of these tinctures are simply to provide active-relaxation and focused-attention states, others are specifically linked to the requirments of "Cognitive Chaos" research. Even in the earliest and crudest stages of the egg's development the ICS founders quickly realized that many of the Dobbs twins' PhD thesis predictions might be considered cautious oor conservative.Enhanced control of autonomous body functions was attained even in the second-generation version, and the third provided a kind of bathysphere capable of "diving "down even to the cellular level.Certain unexpected side-effects included phenomena usually classified as paranormal.We knew we were not hallucinating all this, quite bluntly, because we obtained concrete and measurable results, not only in terms of "yogic powers" (such as suspended animation,"inner hear,"lucid dreaming and the like) but also in observable benefits to health:rapid healing,remission of chronic conditions, *absence of disease*. At this point in development of the egg (third generation) the researchers attempted to "descend" (like SciFi micronauts) to the Quantum level. Perhaps the thorniest of all Quantum paradoxes involves the "collapse of the wave function"-the state of Schrodinger's famous cat.When does a wave "become" a particle? At the moment of observation? If so< does this implicate human consciousness in the actual Q-structure of reality itself? By observing do we in effect "create?"The ICS team's ultimate dream was to "ride the wave" and actually experience (rather than merely observe) the function-collapse.Through "participation" in Q-events, it was hoped that the observer/observed duality could be overcome or evaded. This hope was based on rather "orthodox" Copenhagian interpetations of Quantum reality.After some months of intensive work, however, no one had experienced the sought-for and expected "moment"...each wave seemed to flow as far as one cared to ride it, like some perfect surfer's curl extending to infinity.We began to ssuspect that the answer to the question"when?" might be "never!" This contingency had been described rigorously in only one interpretation of Q-reality, that of J.Wheeler-who proved that the wave function need never collapse provided that every Q-event gives rise to an "alternating world"(the Cat is both alive and dead). To settle this question a fourth generation of the egg was evolved and tested, while simultaneously a burst of research was carried out in the abstruse areas of "Hillbert space" and the topology of n-dimensional geometry, on the intuituve assumptions that new "attractors" could thereby be generated and used to visualize or "grok" the transitions between alternate universes. Again the ICS triumphed...although the immediate success of the fourth-generation egg provoked a moment of fear and panic unmatched in the whole history of "Cognitive Chaos." The first run-through of the "Cat" program was undertaken by a young staff-member of great brilliance (one of the original Paramus runaways) whose nickname happened to be Kit-and it happened to take place on the Spring Equinox.At the precise moment the heavens changed gears, so to speak, the entire egg vanished from the laboratory. Consternation would be a mild term for what ensued.For about seven minutes the entire ICS lost its collective cool.At that point however the egg reappeared with its passenger intact and beaming...like Alice's Chesire Cat rather than Schrodinger's poor victim. He had succeeded in riding the wave to its "destination"- an alternate universe.He had observed it and- in his words- "memorized its address." Instinctively he felt that certain dimensional universes must act as "starnge attractors" in their own right, and are thus far easier to access (more "probable") than others.In practical terms, he had not been dissolved but had found the way to a "universe next door." The Gateway had been opened. Where is Ong's Hat? ----------------- According to Piney legend, the village of Ong's Hat was founded sometime in the 19th century whena man named Ong threw his hat up in the air, landed it in a tree and was unable to retrieve it (we like to think it vanished into another world).By the 1920s all traces of settlement other than a few crumbling chimneys had faded away.But the name appealed so much to cartographers that some of them retained it-a dot representing nothing in the midst of the most isolated flat dark scrub-pines and sandy creeks in all the vast, empty and perhaps haunted Barrens. W.Fard's acreage lies in the invisible suburbs of this invisible town, of which we are the sole inhabitants.You can find it easily on old survey maps,even trace out the the old dirt road leading into the bogs where a little square represents the decrepit "Ong's Hat Rod & Gun Club," original residence.However, you might discover that finding the ICS itself is not so simple. If you compare your old survey map with the very latest, you will note that our area lies perilously cl;ose to the region infamous in recent years, the South Jersey Nuclear Waste Dump near Fort Dix.The "accident" that occurred there has made the Barrens even more mepty and unpopular, as any hard-core Pineys fled the pollution melting into the state's last untouched wilderness.The electrified fence shutting off the deadly zone runs less than a mile above our enclave. The Accident occurred while we were in the first stages of developing the fourth-generation egg,the Gate.At the time we had no idea of its full potential.However all of us ,except for the very youngest (who were evacuated), had by then been trained in elementary self-directed generation.A few tests proved that with care and effort we could resist at least the initial onslaught of radiation sickness.We decided to stick it out, at least until "the authorities" (rather than the dump) proved too hot to endure. Once the Gate was discovered, we realized the situation had been saved.The opening and actual interdimensional travel, can only be effected by a fully trained "cognitive chaote;" so the first priority was to complete the course for all our members.A technique for "carrying" young children was developed (it seems not to work for adult "non-initiates"), and it was discovered that all inanimate matter within the egg is also carried across with the operator. Little by little we carted our entire establishment (including most of the buildings) across the topological abyss.Unlike Baudelaire who pleaded, "Anywhere!-so long as out of this world!" we knew where we were going.Ong's Hat has indeed vanished from New Jersey,except for the hidden laboratory deep in the backwoods where the gate "exists." On the other side of the Gate we found a Pine Barrens similar to ours but in a world which apparently never developed human life.Of course we have since visited a number of other worlds, but we decided to colonize this one, our first newfoundland.we still live in the same scattering of weather-gray shacks,Airstream trailers,recycled chicken coops, and mail-order yurts, only a bit more spread out-and considerably more relaxed.We're still dependent on your world for many things-from coffee to books to computers-and in fact we have no inclination of cutting ourselves off like anchorites and merely scampering into a dreamworld.We intend to spread the word. The colonization of new worlds-even an infinity of them- can never act as a panacea for the ills of Consensus Reality-only as a palliative.we have always taken our diseases with us to each new frontier...everywhere we go we exterminate aborigines and battle with our weapons of law and order against the chaos of reality. But this time, we believe, the affair will go differently- because this time the journey outward can only be made simultaneously with the journey inward-and because this bootstrap-trick can only be attained by a consciousness which, to a significant degree, has overcome itself, liberated itself from self-sickness-and "realized itself." Not that we think ourselves saints, or try to behave morally, or imagine ourselves a super-race, absolved from good and evil.Simply, we like to consider ourselves awake when we're awake, sleeping when we sleep.we enjoy good health.We have learned that desire demands the *other* just as it demands the self.We see no end to growth while life lasts, no cessation of unfolding, of continual outpouring of form from chaos.We're moving on, nomads or monads of the dimensions.Sometimes we feel almost satisfied...at other times, terrified. Meanwhile our agents of chaos remain behind to set up ICS courses,distribute Moorish Orthodox literature ( a major mask for our propaganda) to subvert and evade our enemies...We haven't spoken yet of our enemies.Indeed there remains much we have not said.This text, diguised as a sort of New Age vacation brochure, must fall silent at this point, satisfied that it has embedded within itself enough clues for its intended readers (who are already halfway to Ong's hat in any case) but not enough for those with little faith to follow. CHAOS NEVER DIED! %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% For further research in this area refer to: incunabula- gopher.well.sf.ca.us "Advances in Skin Science" Joseph Matheny interviews Nick Herbert about Quantum Tantra. bOING-bOING #11 Oct,1993. ============================================================================= In modern thought, (if not in fact) hermes@selway.umt.edu Nothing is that doesn't act, So that is reckoned wisdom which Describes the scratch but not the itch. - Anonymous ============================================================================= From hermes@selway.umt.edu Tue Apr 5 06:39:27 1994 Received: from selway.umt.edu by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA03054; Tue, 5 Apr 94 06:38:25 -0700 Received: by selway.umt.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA18618; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 07:38:21 -0600 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 07:38:19 -0600 (MDT) From: - Subject: Incunabula, Part 3 To: w00f Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Journal entry 1/23/94 After interviewing Nick Herbert and being stuck with the check for lunch, I discovered that Mr. Herbert had scribbled a phone number on the back of the reciept before leaving. It was a New Jersey exchange, I recognized it almost instantly,and underneath it the letters E.C. were scrawled. Finally, a lead ! This had to be the phone number for none other than Emory Cranston, proprietor of INCUNABULA books. So, Cranston was still on Earth Prime, and accessible by phone. I went back to my motel room and dialed the number. [ring] [ring] EC: Hello ? JM: Hi, is this Emory Cranston ? EC: Who wants to know ? JM: My name is Joseph Matheny. I got your phone number from Nick Herbert. I'm a reporter investigating the Ong's Hat story, and I thought you might give me some insight into where you came across all the material in INCUNABULA. I got the catalogue from a group of Culture Hackers in San Francisco. (silence) Is this Emory Cranston ? EC: Who did you say you were again ? JM: A freelance investigative reporter, doing a story on the travel cults and the Ong's Hat Institute. EC: And who gave you this phone number ? JM: Nick Herbert. I was trying to find out where INCUNABULA is located now. EC: (Audible sigh on other end of line) Oh, well.At least he could have warned me. But it doesn't really matter...after all,there's no "here" here anyway, so I won't be here tommorrow. Does that answer your first question ? JM: You mean INCUNABULA is located in "virtual space" ? EC: As far as your concerned, yes. JM:Well, in the introduction to the INCUNABULA catalogue, you stated that you had uncovered "...a conspiracy so deep that no other researcher has yet become aware of it (outside of certain intelligence circles, needless to say)..." Is that still true? Why hasn't this become a more popular conspiracy theory? How did you come across this information? EC:No, it's no longer true. Since I published the catalogue, everthing has changed. Everthing ! And look, this is no longer a "theory". I admit, when I first published, I really didn't know jack-shit about anything. Yes, I was a "conspiracy theorist", how pathetic ! Let me ask you, what kind of epistemological black hole...I mean, if the conspiratoligists "know" anything it wouldn't be a "theory" anymore, would it? It'd be "fact". Who killed Kennedy? Where are the UFOs from? They don't "know", do they? JM: You have answers to these questions ? EC: Pal, I've got lots of answers ! Alternative answers. Get it? But that's not important. You ask why "my theory" isn't better known or more "popular" ? Why aren't they discussing it at UFO conferences, eh? Why isn't it on TV? Well, there's an easy answer to that. The truth is never popular, and it's never seen on TV ! You know in your heart I'm right about this don't you? If you think about what's really important to you, you'll realize it's not popular and it's never been seen on TV (or if it has...well then I'm sorry for you). It's true, when I first came across the information...I was living in Chatsworth, in the Pine Barrens, near Ong's Hat...I was doing a catalogue...Tesla, Reich, Bioshamanics, Hollow Earth, crop circles, Mae Brussell...that sort of thing. Strange stories were circulating about the Institute out at Ong's Hat. They wouldn't talk to me. Then they disappeared. That's when I got "really" interested, and began collecting the literature. A few years later I published the catalogue to see if they'd get in touch with me. I wanted to flush them out. I wanted to know. JM: So what happened? EC: Let's just say I succeeded in stiring the shit beyond my wildest expectations. You know, most conspiratologists would die of shock if they suddenly received proof that their thoeries were real. You'll notice that not one UFO "expert" has ever been abducted. And not one Kennedy-Conspiracy nut has ever been assassinated. These things happen to *other people*, not to Conspiracy Theorists, right? Well, let's just say...that's what I mean when I say...this isn't a "theory" anymore. JM: Do you feel endangered in anyway, being so outspoken about info that has obviously gotten some people killed? How do you deal with the danger, what precautions have you taken? Why are you talking to me for example? EC: Why am I talking to you? There are reasons...reasons you don't really need to know. Just go ahead and do what ever you intend to do. Publish. But be careful. At this point, the cat's out of the bag, as Alice Schroedinger would say, (laughs).I doubt they...I don't think anyone would bother anymore...it's gone so far beyond that. Now, as to my state of savvy when I published the INCUNABULA catalogue...you know how conspiracy buffs like to pretend they're running a great risk...that hidden forces will try to silence them, blah blah. So buy my stuff *now*, before it's *too late*, etc.,etc. Not one of them really believes it. I didn't believe it. I was extremely fortunate. The catalogue fell into the right hands...just about five minutes before it fell into the *wrong* hands. I was contacted. I was protected. Literally whisked away. In the *nick* of time. Next question, please. JM: But... EC: No no no. Read the catalogue. Think about it. Chance are you'll figure it out. You were smart enough to find this phone number, after all. *That's* why I'm talking to you. Next question. JM: Ok. How many books have you sold? How many people do you think you've convinced? EC: I'm not really running the catlogue anymore. It can't be suppressed -it's *out* there, it's *circulating*. But I'm not selling the books now. Those who *need* the books, get the books. I don't need the money, after all. Those who can really *read* the catalogue and figure out the next step...well, not everything in INCUNABULA is accurate, of course. But the clues are there. Follow the garden of forking paths. Ah, how many , you ask? I can tell you exactly. The answer is precisely 16 people have followed the thread so far. We're aware of another dozen or so who are working on it. At a certain point in their researches they'll be *helped*...if possible. One may *blunder*, you see. Some tracks lead to the Minotaur, know what I mean? And some of those dozen or so are working for the wrong people. They won't be helped. JM: How did you obtain the more "esoteric" material, like _Alternate_ Dimensions_ by "Jabir ibn Hayaan" aka Nick Herbert? EC: Oh, _Alternate_Dimensions_ can hardly be called one of the more "esoteric" titles in the list. After all, Herbert was still a *Theorist* when he wrote it. The book is actually wrong on a number of points, though quite brilliant as an *approach*. The fact is, I tracked down Dr. Herbert when I was assembling the catalogue. I'd read his other work, and realized he *must* be heading in the right direction. At first he wouldn't talk to me at all. He suspected I was an agent of whatever Shadowy Forces were trying to suppress the book, and *succeeding*. From various angry remarks he dropped I was able to piece together the story. His manuscript and files had been stolen right out of his house, and the publishers refused to return their copies, or any of the page proofs. They were stonewalling him. So I...well, I stole it. JM: What? EC: I went to the publisher. I had a very strong intuition as to which group was blocking publication. I posed as an agent of that group.Apparently I was correct, and it seems I knew enough to convince the publisher of my *bona fides*, so to speak. He was so glad to hand over the book you'd've thought it was a bomb ! Later he was fired. I suppose he's lucky to be alive, the schmuck. I copied the proofs and returned the originals to Dr. Herbert. He agreed to let me list it. After all, it was the only way his work was ever going to be distributed. Of course it's a moot point now. I mean, the book is seriously out-of-date and there's not going to be a revised edition. JM: Well, it's obvious that you've been in contact with some of the travel cult members. Can you tell me who? EC: That would be telling. JM: Aw, come on ! This is not turning out to be much of an interview. EC: Nonsense, young man. What I'm giving you is gold, pure gold. All right, then...would it surprise you to hear that you've already met a fair number of "cult members"? The heiress in the Berkeley Hills who knows all about Tarantula venom? That Irish humorist who lives in James Joyce's Martello tower in Howth, outside Dublin? The aging psychedelic guru...the so called Persian Anarchist...the so called Satanic rock-star...the Montana cowboy-secret-agent-hacker...the cyberpunk SciFi Surrealist... JM: No ! They would've told me... EC: Guess again. JM: I believe you're...you're disinforming me here, Mr. Cranston. EC: Check it out. JM: I will. EC: Do. Next question. JM: Um, ok. Uh...what new information have you come across since the catlogue was published? What new developments have there been in this "science" of travel? EC: I can't really tell you that. "Cult member" means nothing now. All the players know who the other players are. I'm not giving anything away. But...new developments on the tech end? No. Certain people could gain an edge just from a vague description...well, I can tell you a few things. A paper came out right after my catalogue, so it's not listed, but everyone knows about it by now. It's by Suhrawardi, it's called _Not_the_Egg,_the_Joke_, a bad pun on yoga. Eggless travel has become S.O.P. for advanced travellers. Some permanent doorways have been constructed which work even for non-initiates, sort of like _The_Lion_the_Witch_and_the_Wardrobe_ . They're very nicely camouflaged-Fu Manchu couldn't do better. And of course they're guarded. JM: Raiders of the Lost Ark... EC: Eh? Oh yes...booby trapped. Definitely. It's a zero-sum game I'm afraid. Either you're on the bus or you're not on the bus. The Gateways...that's what we call them, the Gateways-have to be there for those few who, shall we say, solve the catalogue without any help from any group. People that smart do exist- I have to admit I wasn't one of them ! I compiled the catalogue and even I didn't "get it" ! But people who are capable of such...such quantum jujitsu, are people we need. For them the Gateways aren't guarded, but protected. As for the others who might somehow locate the translational nexi...well, you know who I mean... JM: No, who? EC: The Tri-Lateral Commission ! Read the catalogue ! Figure it out ! Who knows? Maybe you'll need to know, one of these days. JM: Is the secret goverment still active in this area, and if so what do they hope to achieve? EC: Are you implying that because a "liberal" regime has taken over from a "conservative" regime, that you people are free of "secret goverment"? Haven't you heard of the present leader's fascination with "virtual reality"? Where do you suppose power comes from, an" Invisible College" of "Illuminati"? (I use the terms metaphorically , of course.) Nothing has changed-only gotten hotter. In Baghdad...no, forget I said that. Scratch that. Dump the whole file. Next? JM: Hmmmm, ok. Have you been to Earth2 or any of the other "worlds" and is this where you've been hiding? EC: Well, no harm in telling you I suppose. Yes, in fact I've been spending quite a lot of time in Java2. It's not even a security thing anymore, really. Or not always. The truth is that, well, you can't possibly imagine- a whole world for a utopia, complete with flora, fauna, picturesque ruins, and maybe, oh, ten people per square continent. Fresh air ! That alone is enough to...a universe next door, let's go ! (was it e.e.cummings who said that?) JM: And if that one gets too crowded? EC: Precisely. A number of Davy Crockett types have already "moved on" where they can't see the smoke of their neighbors fires, to put it mildly. We have no idea of the extent of the Series- it may be "infinite" for all practical (or impractical) purposes. JM: Why not just tell everbody, then? EC: Would you want to be responsible for infecting the halls of infinity with, say the L.A. Police? Do you think the Penatgon deserves infinity? (and what if it isn't infinite?) Etcetera? JM: Who were the occupants of Java2 , that left behind the ruins? EC: Well, that's the biggest news of all really. We found them- or rather they've found us. They calim to be an alternative evolutionary branch of Homo Sapiens through h.Javanesis and h.Neanderthalensis. They look like they're descended from lemurs rather tha chimps, like us. A bit like the characters from Javanese shadow puppet plays. They discovered how to travel long ago, in a time we might think of as the time of Atlantis or Mu (only we would be wrong...) It's all rather Lovecraftian, inas much as they claim to be responsible for certain aspects of human culture, aspects which are uncanny, but not maleficent. Not only in Java. The Tuartha de Danaan of Ireland who vanished "underground ", and other "faery" and "hollow earth" clues...the whole idea of another physical world, not a heaven or hell, but a Magickal universe next door...anyway, we were wrong about them. Travelling in time, either fast forward or backward. They simply set out to explore the Series. They think it may be endless, and some decided to return "home" to Java2. They're a completely non -hierarchic segmentary society, like primitive hunter/gatherers, but with a highly evolved culture. A lot of Terrans have completely "converted" to their way of life, even their language. You should hear their music ! The returnees brought back some of their artifacts and...well, "furniture" I guess you'd call it. Their ancestors built a city during a "High Civilization" period in their history, but they rejected hard technology for cognitive sciences long ago. Our travel techniques are crude by comparison and lacking their whole mythopoetic value sytem. We're planning soon to release certain archival material here in Earth Prime, certain bits of art and music, which we expect to act in a viral fashion to produce profound paradigm shifts. The traveller's culture is now, I beleive, our most effective "weapon". JM: So what's your bottom line, is this all co-creative or what? EC: A smartass question. JM: No, really. EC: Who can say? What about our own cosmic locale, our own provincial reality? You can't make it go away by ceasing to believe in it. "Give me a place to stand and I'll move the world"-but there *is* noplace-place, no "outside" vantage point, from which to challenge concensus reality. "Magick" is notoriously difficult and vague, and terribly incremental- the utopian imagination seems futile- reforms of consciousness appear to fail, unless they implement the emergence of new ruling classes or elites. "Religion" is a perfect case in point. But was religion the cause of "civilization"- or the effect? Now, however, you see, it's a whole new game. There is an "outside" now, maybe an infinite number of outsides, places to stand with a lever in one hand- and a magic mushroom in the other. The disposessed have always believed in a millenium, a magickal resistance, a heaven on earth, a world turned upside down. This is it. Well, time's up. JM: I had a million more questions. In fact... EC: This phone number and address will become inoperative. Don't call us, we'll call you. And don't worry. The Reality check is in the mail. [click] (JM's note: the phone was indeed disconnected the next day, and the premises it was registered to vacated with no forwarding address left) For further info on the INCUNABULA enigma see: INCUNABULA and INCUNABULA 2 on gopher well.sf.ca.us and "Advances in Skin Science" Joseph Matheny interviews Nick Herbert bOING-bOING #11, Fall 93. ============================================================================= In modern thought, (if not in fact) hermes@selway.umt.edu Nothing is that doesn't act, So that is reckoned wisdom which Describes the scratch but not the itch. - Anonymous ============================================================================= From tomj@fnord.tlg.org Tue Apr 5 14:34:40 1994 Received: from tlg.org by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA04564; Tue, 5 Apr 94 14:34:38 -0700 Received: from localhost by fnord.tlg.org (8.3/wps.com-hackery) id OAA05640; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 14:33:51 -0700 Received: from mail.netcom.com by fnord.tlg.org (8.3/wps.com-hackery) id SAA01012; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 18:03:15 -0700 Received: from idiot.montage.com by mail.netcom.com (8.6.4/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id SAA21253; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 18:04:35 -0700 Received: by idiot.montage.com (4.1/smail2.5/01-14-91) id AA10204; Mon, 4 Apr 94 18:01:19 PDT Message-Id: <9404050101.AA10204@idiot.montage.com> To: admin@fnord.tlg.org (Tom Jennings) Cc: tomj@fnord.tlg.org (Tom Jennings) Subject: Re: need info In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 21 Mar 94 19:01:45 PST." <199403220301.TAA12773@tlg.org> Date: Mon, 04 Apr 94 18:01:18 -0700 From: Don Coleman Sender: tomj@fnord.tlg.org Status: OR The note said: > @1: BEFORE YOU FILL OUT THIS FORM: > You need to have the telephone line installed at the TLG POP. So I was waiting for the line to be installed... note that I do not yet know the phone circuit number. don ------------------------------------------------------------------ T H E L I T T L E G A R D E N return this ENTIRE form to: admin@tlg.org (You can delete the dashed line above and everything preceding it.) (You might want to keep a copy for yourself) Please fill any ***'ed items below (ie. information I don't have) and change any incorrect items, and mail it back to me. Some of it will be posted to a contact list available to little garden members; the rest of it I'll keep private. ---------- Please don't remove anything below this line ---------- Your Little Garden POP will be: RGNet, Inc, suite 3075, 444 Market Street, S.F. 94111 Telephone circuit number: You've been assigned 8-bit subnet: 140.174.145--148 Initial networks you want routed: 140.174.145--148 For routing purposes, the address of the Little Garden router/gateway ("next hop") is: 140.174. TBD *You* tell *us* what the first address is on your end (eg. your SLIP or PPP port that's the gateway to your network): 140.174.145.1 PUBLIC INFORMATION: Company/site name (optional): Montage Software, Inc. Person/contact name: Don Coleman Voice phone to contact for problems: 510-869-6330 Domain name you'll register: montage.com person@domain to send mail to: coleman@montage.com TECHNICAL INFORMATION: Do you want SLIP or PPP? PPP (SLIP only) Want van Jacobson compression? (y,n) [recommended] *** UNLISTED INFORMATION: Phone/circuit number at TLG site: Mailing address (for billing): Company/person if different: Montage Software Street, etc: 1111 Broadway, Suite 2000 City, etc: Oakland, CA, 94607 (Other info required? Add here.) From pozar@kksf.tbo.com Tue Apr 5 14:40:00 1994 Received: from slip1.lns.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA04578; Tue, 5 Apr 94 14:39:56 -0700 Received: from localhost by kksf.tbo.com (8.3/1.34) id OAA07082; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 14:39:32 -0700 From: pozar@kksf.tbo.com (Tim Pozar) Message-Id: <199404052139.OAA07082@kksf.tbo.com> Subject: Kevin Angus phone number is... To: tomj@wps.com Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 14:39:32 -40962758 (PDT) Cc: tomj@tlg.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 68 Status: OR 415-513-6926 I called him. He is calling PacBell right now.. Tim From wadlow@millennium.tw.com Tue Apr 5 14:51:56 1994 Received: from millennium.tw.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA04638; Tue, 5 Apr 94 14:51:46 -0700 Received: by millennium.tw.com (4.1/9999.1) id AA06204; Tue, 5 Apr 94 14:54:55 PDT Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 14:54:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Wadlow Subject: Re: Portmaster configuration (Resending) To: Tom Jennings In-Reply-To: <9404052026.AA04305@wps.com> Message-Id: Status: OR According to the manual ("Dialnet User's Manual"), the way you set up a connection to redial is one of two ways: - Set up an "On Demand" connection with a really long idle timeout - Set up a "Continuous" connection The first will hang up if the timeout is reached, or it will redial when the first packet comes along and tries to cross the link. The second tries to reestablish the link whenever it is dropped, even if there is no traffic. This is probably the right one. To set this up, what you want to do is use the EDIT command, and find your way to the Dial Out Configuration Parameters screen. From there, change the "Type: " to Continuous, and save. That should do it. --Tom From wicinski@polyp.barn.com Tue Apr 5 15:29:28 1994 Received: from polyp.barn.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA04792; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:29:13 -0700 Received: by polyp.barn.com (920330.SGI/mooooo) for tomj@wps.com id AA03630; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:28:58 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:28:58 -0700 From: wicinski@polyp.barn.com (Tim Wicinski) Message-Id: <9404052228.AA03630@polyp.barn.com> To: tomj@wps.com Subject: TLG upgrades Status: OR where will the demand-dial setup be workoing out of? we should discuss this sort of stuff as this will be in a competing/conflicts. thanks tim From wicinski@polyp.barn.com Tue Apr 5 15:34:01 1994 Received: from polyp.barn.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA04819; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:33:48 -0700 Received: by polyp.barn.com (920330.SGI/mooooo) for tomj@wps.com id AA03648; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:33:36 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:33:36 -0700 From: wicinski@polyp.barn.com (Tim Wicinski) Message-Id: <9404052233.AA03648@polyp.barn.com> To: tomj@wps.com Subject: Sprint Status: OR we had 1 hour of downtime and they gave my company (dvts.com) a free month (a 6K value)! you should getg more than 1 month of free service. ours was also a "cable in stockton" problem. the only reason it was not down much longer than that was the fact that Spreint also controls the PacBell T1 lines for us. they can do point-point debugging, which is not the case with MFS. small point, tim From DSTOLZ@msu.edu Tue Apr 5 15:55:00 1994 Received: from ibm.cl.msu.edu by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA04890; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:54:58 -0700 Message-Id: <9404052254.AA04890@wps.com> Received: from MSU.BITNET by msu.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2707; Tue, 05 Apr 94 18:54:57 EDT Received: by MSU (Mailer R2.08 PTF008) id 6525; Tue, 05 Apr 94 18:54:57 EDT Date: Tue, 05 Apr 94 18:54 EDT To: tomj@wps.com From: "Doug.Stolz" Subject: new order In-Reply-To: The letter of Tuesday, 5 April 1994 6:08pm ET Status: OR sir, IRX 114 at $ 2,438.00 each. Rack-1 at $ 58.00 each. DC-6 at $ 38.00 each. (only 6 footers from Livingston these days) total order $ 5,260.00 plus shipping, net 20. ups ground . From jonathan@wired.com Tue Apr 5 22:32:45 1994 Received: from cyborganic.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA06105; Tue, 5 Apr 94 22:32:26 -0700 Received: from dairyland.cyborganic.com by ramona.cyborganic.com.cyborganic.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA24354; Tue, 5 Apr 94 22:31:27 -0700 Message-Id: <9404060531.AA24354@cyborganic.com> X-Sender: jonathan@cyborganic.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 22:32:33 -0700 To: Tom Jennings From: Jonathan Steuer Subject: tlg expansion Status: OR A follow-up on our discussion the other day, prompted by the latest tlg newsletter... Would you be interested in getting together sometime in the next couple of weeks with Andrew Anker and myself to talk about possibilities for expanding TLG? Also, on a separate matter, is everything set for Wired's T1 to go in on Friday?? Did the other customer pan out and get their act together? Did the PacBell guy ever deal with getting the line installed?? Thanx again for all you efforts hassling with Sprint... l8r- -j- From pozar@kumr.lns.com Tue Apr 5 23:04:44 1994 Received: from kumr.lns.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA06173; Tue, 5 Apr 94 23:04:41 -0700 Received: by kumr.lns.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.3) id ; Tue, 5 Apr 94 23:04 PDT Message-Id: From: pozar@kumr.lns.com (Tim Pozar) Subject: Re: NOS4... To: tomj@wps.com (Tom Jennings) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 23:04:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9404060512.AA06030@wps.com> from "Tom Jennings" at Apr 5, 94 10:12:53 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 484 Status: OR Tom Jennings wrote: > Great! Can you drag the carcass from toad to KKSF in your car? > If not, I can do it this weekend. I may be a bit tied up this week. I will try. All next week I am taking off to move. If it can get over to KKSF in the next day or so, I may be able to bring it up. Tim -- Internet: pozar@kumr.lns.com Snail: Tim Pozar / KKSF / 77 Maiden Lane / San Francisco CA 94108 / USA POTS: +1 415 788 2022 Radio: KC6GNJ / KAE6247 From ship!f0.n153.z1.ship.net!Tony.Bearman@wimsey.com Tue Apr 5 23:56:08 1994 Received: from wolfe.wimsey.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA06414; Tue, 5 Apr 94 23:56:04 -0700 Received: from ship by wolfe.wimsey.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #12) id m0poRWE-0005eUC; Tue, 5 Apr 94 23:55 PDT Received: by ship.net (Fred/1.9n7) id AA00848; Tue, 05 Apr 1994 22:53:12 -0800 From: Tony.Bearman@f0.n153.z1.ship.net (Tony Bearman) Sender: UUCP@ship.net Date: Tue, 05 Apr 1994 20:39:56 -0800 Message-Id: <765611592.AA00848@ship.net> Subject: Rgn17Con '94 To: tomj@wps.com Status: OR Hello Tom. It's the 10th anniversary of the little network that you started away back in 1984. The scale of things is quite a bit different now than in 1985 when you wrote: FidoNet is no longer just a piece of software; it has become complex organism. There are about 160 Fidos in FidoNet right now; this does not include Fidos being run as Bulletin Board only systems, just ones that you can converse with over the net. If the average unmber of users on each system is 300 people, you can start to guess at the scale of things today. ...although I think this still applies very much today as it did a decade ago: Very simple; it is a hobby, a non-commercial network of computer hobbiests ("hackers", in the older, original meaning) who want to play with, and find uses for, packet switch networking. It is not a commercial venture in any way; FidoNet is totally supported by it's users and sysops, and in many ways is similar to ham radio, in that other than a few "stiff" rules, each sysop runs their system in any way they please, for any reason they want. It is in a sense of the celebration of this hobbiest fellowship that we in Region 17 gather each year at our Region 17 Convention. Pacific Rim Net 153 has been accorded the privilege of hosting this year's Reg17Con, from August 16-19. It is to be held close to Vancouver, B.C., in New Westminster (the oldest city in the Province, and our original Capital). We are planning an interesting blend of seminars and social events, as well as providing forums for good old freestyle bull sessions, and the now-legendary Floppy Toss event. :-) As part of our observance of Fidonet's 10th anniversary, we'd like to reflect a bit on how it all started, and consider where it might all be going. To this end, we're counting on having several long-term members on hand to share some of their perspectives. I would like to personally extend an invitation for you to attend as our guest of honour. We are a large net, but we pride ourselves on being among the most community-minded and cooperatively-spirited. I would count it a singular honour to be able to show you some of our Western Canadian hospitality. Thanks for your ear... Practise random acts of senseless kindness. Tony Bearman NC153 (also at tony@ship.net) From tomj Wed Apr 6 15:20:30 1994 Received: by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA00573; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:20:01 -0700 From: tomj (Tom Jennings) Message-Id: <9404062220.AA00573@wps.com> Subject: Platforms (fwd) To: john@ati.com Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 15:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Cc: pozar@kumr.lns.com (Tim Pozar), tomj (Tom Jennings) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 3453 Status: OR Hi John, I'm working with Tim Pozar on the voicemail system for TLG. Sorry it's taking me so long to get to this, it's been one network disaster after another... I'll have a box to deliver you by Tuesday. It'll be a 386-SX 20MHz; is this adequate? If not I'll get a poopier processor. It'll be 4MB, you didnt' say, but I'm guessing it's just DOS...? The disk will be either a 200 or 340MB IDE, or a 140 MB ESDI drive. Does disk performance matter at all... if not, I'll save the ESDI for a Windows box that does graphics. I have a Dialogics card, and a friend is checking the EPROM rev level. If there's a minimum rev let me know... > you need. It will run under DOS and you can use all four lines > simultaneously if you like. The lines can be configured the same or > differently (such as a back door for message retrieval or other > purposes. I have an ADVISOR pager, and Pac*Tel service. I have a tpage daemon running on my unix box; is it possible to tie in the IXO/TAP stuff? > I will need to know the flow for each type of service you are doing. Not sure how much detail you require. Is this adequate? main menu: "Welcome to TLG... blah blah blah press 3 for info for new members, press 5 to hear TLG network status, or hang on to leave a message". (* Could there simply be N of these, say 2 through 6, that play some recorded announcement then return to the main menu? If I don't have a use for one yet, I can simply record, "This option not used" as the announcement. I assume unimplemented codes, such as 1, 0 etc in this scheme, would be simply ignored. *) 3 pressed: play recorded announcement ("To become a new member...") return to main menu 5 pressed: play recorded announcement ("Current TLG network status is...") return to main menu (* These would be *un-announced* options. Basically they're like informal passwords. The idea is, I personally and seprately give people a "trouble code". When they call, they'd leave a message in a separate "trouble" mailbox, then I'd get paged with a code that would tell me the severity of the trouble call; I'll arbitrarily assign 901 low priority, 903 high priority (etc) so when I get paged, I already know the level of panic. Hopefully the three digits will prevent mis-keys from falling into the trouble system. Can these codes be parameterized so I can change them? Ie like changing passwords. If not it's OK. I don't really care if it's 9xx or whatever. I just thought it would maybe having mixed one and multi-digit codes. *) 901 pressed: play annoucement ("Enter your message; when complete, press 9 to page".) record in mailbox #2 9 pressed: page "#901" hang up 902 pressed: play annoucement ("Enter your message; when complete, press 9 to page".) record in mailbox #2 9 pressed: page "#902" hang up 903 pressed: play annoucement ("Enter your message; when complete, press 9 to page".) record in mailbox #2 9: page "#903" hang up DEFAULT: drop into record-a-message, mailbox #1? hang up > you like, you can dump the parts on me and I will configure the thing > and hand you a working device (in some ways this is easier than walking > someone through installation over the phone). Where are you located, I'll drive it down. -- Tom Jennings -- tomj@wps.com -- World Power Systems -- San Francisco, Calif. From qarchie@sura.net Wed Apr 6 15:23:24 1994 Received: from ragnarok.sura.net by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA00598; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:23:15 -0700 Received: from yog-sothoth.sura.net by ragnarok.sura.net with SMTP for tomj@wps.com (5.65b/(SURAnet $Revision: 1.29 $)) id AA29792; Wed, 6 Apr 94 18:23:10 -0400 Message-Id: <9404062223.AA29792@ragnarok.sura.net> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 22:23:09 0000 To: tomj@wps.com From: qarchie@sura.net Subject: Your search for snmp Reply-To: qarchie@sura.net Precedence: bulk Status: OR Host swdsrv.edvz.univie.ac.at Location: /doc/ietf DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Oct 17 03:44 snmp Host exaic.wu-wien.ac.at Location: / DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 1024 Dec 1 17:27 snmp Host coombs.anu.edu.au Location: /pub/net DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 1024 Mar 28 19:39 snmp Host brain.vifp.monash.edu.au Location: /pub/src/network DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Jul 18 1993 snmp Host bode.ee.ualberta.ca Location: /pub/wuarchive/doc/ietf DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 8192 Jan 16 13:15 snmp Location: /pub/wuarchive/packages DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 8192 Jan 19 16:34 snmp Host cs.ubc.ca Location: /mirror3 DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Dec 16 1992 snmp-mibs Host nic.switch.ch Location: /mirror/ietf DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x 512 Jan 13 01:06 snmp Host ctron.com Location: /pub/ethernet.dni DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x 512 Oct 13 20:09 snmp Location: /pub DIRECTORY dr-xrwxr-x 512 Feb 15 15:57 snmp Location: /pub/token.dni DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x 512 Aug 23 1993 snmp Host vax.ftp.com Location: /pub/datasheets/old FILE -rw-r--r-- 6145 May 5 1991 snmp Location: /support/fixes DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x 0 Jun 29 1993 snmp Host volitans.morningstar.com Location: /pub DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x 512 Aug 4 1992 snmp Host nsco.network.com Location: /tech/IP DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Mar 14 08:47 snmp Host shiva.com Location: /archive DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 1024 Mar 12 04:07 snmp Host gumby.dsd.trw.com Location: /pub/msdos DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Apr 23 1993 snmp Host askhp.ask.uni-karlsruhe.de Location: /pub/tcp/support/fixes DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 24 Jan 20 13:38 snmp Host ftp.uni-kl.de Location: /pub0/internet/Tcp.ip DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x 512 Jan 30 1990 snmp Host info1.rus.uni-stuttgart.de Location: /afs/.rus.uni-stuttgart.de/system/rs_aix32/324/aixwindows1.2.3/usr/include/isode DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 2048 Jul 9 1993 snmp Host gum.isi.edu Location: /share/ietf DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Dec 4 03:40 snmp Host venera.isi.edu Location: /ietf DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Dec 3 19:40 snmp Host bloom-picayune.mit.edu Location: /pub/usenet-by-hierarchy/comp/protocols DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x 512 Mar 5 00:19 snmp Host thyme.lcs.mit.edu Location: /pub DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x 512 Jan 30 1992 snmp Host unixd1.cis.pitt.edu Location: /info/ietf DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 2048 Jun 9 1993 snmp Host aramis.rutgers.edu Location: /ietf DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Oct 16 06:05 snmp Host athos.rutgers.edu Location: /ietf DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Oct 16 06:05 snmp Host mail.unet.umn.edu Location: /mail FILE -rw-rw-rw- 5095158 Mar 19 15:40 snmp Host pith.uoregon.edu Location: /pub/Sun4/lib DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Jan 28 18:21 snmp Host cs.utah.edu Location: /netinfo/rfc FILE -rw-rw-r-- 67742 Sep 5 1988 snmp Host eceserv0.ece.wisc.edu Location: /pub DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Apr 20 1993 snmp Host larry.sal.wisc.edu Location: /pub DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Sep 3 00:00 snmp Host funet.fi Location: /networking DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x 512 May 29 1991 snmp Host imag.imag.fr Location: /archive/tcp-ip DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Oct 17 1992 snmp Location: /doc/rfc/infos FILE -rw-r--r-- 3387 May 4 1993 snmp Location: /doc/routeurs/cisco FILE -rw-r--r-- 3966 Oct 18 1991 snmp Host walton.maths.tcd.ie Location: /src2/iso/isode-7.0/doc DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Jul 15 1991 snmp Location: /src2/iso/isode-8.0-mips DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 3072 May 21 1993 snmp Location: /src2/iso/isode-8.0-sunos DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 3072 Jun 17 1993 snmp Host cs.huji.ac.il Location: /pub/network DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x 512 Mar 14 17:09 snmp Host isfs.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp Location: /ftpmail/ftp.dit.co.jp/pub/misc DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x 512 Feb 13 12:16 snmp Location: /net DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x 512 Sep 12 1991 snmp Host ftp.cfi.waseda.ac.jp Location: /pub3/bsd-sources/NET2/usr/src/contrib/isode DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 2048 Jun 3 1992 snmp Host kum.kaist.ac.kr Location: /doc/IETF DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Oct 16 19:11 snmp Host nic.nordu.net Location: /ietf DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Mar 13 23:45 snmp Host nis.nsf.net Location: /documents/ietf DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Nov 12 15:01 snmp Host ftp.luth.se Location: /pub/unix/network DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Aug 25 1993 snmp Host unix.hensa.ac.uk Location: /pub/uunet/inet/ietf DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Mar 16 02:16 snmp Host cnri.reston.va.us Location: /ietf-mail-archive DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 1024 Mar 2 20:18 snmp Location: /ietf DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x 512 Feb 17 1993 snmp From randy@psg.com Wed Apr 6 16:06:01 1994 Received: from rip.psg.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA00724; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:05:59 -0700 Received: by rip.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0pogfY-00030DC; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:06 PDT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:06 PDT From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) To: tomj@wps.com (Tom Jennings) Subject: NACRs References: <9404062104.AA00197@wps.com> Status: OR nacr@sprintlink.net From john@bovine.ati.com Wed Apr 6 18:26:41 1994 Received: from Slip.Ati.Com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA01178; Wed, 6 Apr 94 18:26:34 -0700 Received: from [198.182.225.2] by zygot.ati.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #10) id m0poirM-0006NhC; Wed, 6 Apr 94 18:26 PDT Message-Id: X-Sender: john@zygot.ati.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 18:26:23 -0700 To: tomj@wps.com (Tom Jennings), john@ati.com From: john@bovine.ati.com (John Higdon) Subject: Re: Platforms (fwd) Cc: pozar@kumr.lns.com (Tim Pozar), tomj@fido.wps.com (Tom Jennings) Status: OR At 3:20 PM 4/6/94 -0700, Tom Jennings wrote: >I'll have a box to deliver you by Tuesday. It'll be a 386-SX 20MHz; is >this adequate? If not I'll get a poopier processor. It'll be 4MB, you >didnt' say, but I'm guessing it's just DOS...? That should work just fine. I have my whole LD reselling switch running in an AT&T 6836WGS which is a grandiose 16 MHz antique. The four meg of RAM can be utilized nicely. >The disk will be either a 200 or 340MB IDE, or a 140 MB ESDI drive. Does >disk performance matter at all... if not, I'll save the ESDI for a >Windows box that does graphics. I have twenty-four line machines using IDE with no problems. >I have a Dialogics card, and a friend is checking the EPROM rev level. >If there's a minimum rev let me know... Ver 56 or better, please. >I have an ADVISOR pager, and Pac*Tel service. I have a tpage daemon >running on my unix box; is it possible to tie in the IXO/TAP stuff? If I get the details. >main menu: > "Welcome to TLG... blah blah blah press 3 for info for new > members, press 5 to hear TLG network status, or hang on to > leave a message". > >(* Could there simply be N of these, say 2 through 6, that play some >recorded announcement then return to the main menu? If I don't have a >use for one yet, I can simply record, "This option not used" as the >announcement. Piece-o-cake. The trick will be "dumbing down" some existing wares! >I assume unimplemented codes, such as 1, 0 etc in this scheme, would >be simply ignored. *) Or play "you are a big dummy...". For the final config, we probably need to talk. Also, you would probably want to set up a "back door" so that you can call in and get the messages without tying up the public line. You have four lines available on the Dialogic card--might as well use them as much as possible. >Where are you located, I'll drive it down. I am in San Jose, specifically the Willow Glen district. I might just meet you at my office which is in Santa Clara and much easier from the City in that you don't have to negotiate the SJ sprawl. The office is at 2118 Walsh Ave. #240, right near 101 and San Tomas Expressway. Call me any time except early (before 10) in the morning. -- John Higdon | P.O. Box 7648 | +1 408 264 4115 | FAX: john@ati.com | San Jose, CA 95150 | 10288 0 700 FOR-A-MOO | +1 408 264 4407 From pozar@kumr.lns.com Wed Apr 6 18:33:43 1994 Received: from kumr.lns.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA01214; Wed, 6 Apr 94 18:33:40 -0700 Received: by kumr.lns.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.3) id ; Wed, 6 Apr 94 18:33 PDT Message-Id: From: pozar@kumr.lns.com (Tim Pozar) Subject: Re: Platforms (fwd) To: john@bovine.ati.com (John Higdon) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 18:33:39 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tomj@wps.com In-Reply-To: from "John Higdon" at Apr 6, 94 06:26:23 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 828 Status: OR John Higdon wrote: > At 3:20 PM 4/6/94 -0700, Tom Jennings wrote: > >I have a Dialogics card, and a friend is checking the EPROM rev level. > >If there's a minimum rev let me know... > > Ver 56 or better, please. I talked to Richard and he said it was ver 60. > >I have an ADVISOR pager, and Pac*Tel service. I have a tpage daemon > >running on my unix box; is it possible to tie in the IXO/TAP stuff? > > If I get the details. TJ, remember to plug me in there. > Piece-o-cake. The trick will be "dumbing down" some existing wares! Are there some features that we could use? Is there a poop sheet on things we could ask for? Tim -- Internet: pozar@kumr.lns.com Snail: Tim Pozar / KKSF / 77 Maiden Lane / San Francisco CA 94108 / USA POTS: +1 415 788 2022 Radio: KC6GNJ / KAE6247 From curt@mofo.toad.com Wed Apr 6 22:30:03 1994 Received: from mofo.toad.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA01852; Wed, 6 Apr 94 22:29:58 -0700 Received: from localhost (curt@localhost) by mofo.toad.com (8.6.5/8.3) id WAA21035; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 22:29:31 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 22:29:31 -0700 From: Curt mayer Message-Id: <199404070529.WAA21035@mofo.toad.com> To: tomj@wps.com Subject: stuff and stuff Status: OR the 486SLC has a 16 bit bus. i has a lot of cache on chip, but if it has to go to memory, you lose big. I have a J-random (the company does not exist anymore) S3-911 card. I suggest something like an orchid farenheit 1280 if you can find it. note that the best you can do is 1024x900 or so with 1M of memory. stay away from dram based cards, they won't give you a decent refresh rate. get VRAM if you can. there's a FAQ for XFREE86 somewhere. I'd go with the 486DX-2 66, if only because of the much higher bandwidth. the latest PC magazine has a eval of 17 inch monitors. curt From verve@well.sf.ca.us Wed Apr 6 22:31:58 1994 Received: from well.sf.ca.us by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA01871; Wed, 6 Apr 94 22:31:54 -0700 Received: (from verve@localhost) by well.sf.ca.us (8.6.8/8.6.6) id VAA10872; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 21:45:57 -0700 From: "Eric S. Theise" Message-Id: <199404070445.VAA10872@well.sf.ca.us> Subject: Queers Online, Modern Times, 4/10 To: jacked-in@well.sf.ca.us Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 21:45:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 690 Status: OR JACKING IN: A Series on Cyberspace Literacy Presents Sunday, April 10 * 7:30 p.m. Queers Online: Gays and Lesbians on the Net Computer networks and conferencing systems have been a boon to gays and lesbians. Activism -- such as campaigns against Colorado's Amendment 2 and quests for accurate health and medical information -- has gone hand in hand with more social uses of these tools. Join us for a survey of national and local projects, as well as a consideration of the mesh between a gay and lesbian presence and family-oriented online services such as America OnLine. $3-$5 sliding scale Modern Times Bookstore 888 Valencia Street (at 20th) San Francisco, CA 94114 415/282.9246 From curt@mofo.toad.com Thu Apr 7 01:32:12 1994 Received: from mofo.toad.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA02375; Thu, 7 Apr 94 01:32:07 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mofo.toad.com (8.6.5/8.3) with SMTP id BAA21361; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 01:31:45 -0700 Message-Id: <199404070831.BAA21361@mofo.toad.com> X-Authentication-Warning: mofo.toad.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: tomj@wps.com (Tom Jennings) Cc: curt@mofo.toad.com Subject: Re: adi microscan 5A - i spent 750 bucks about 6 months ago. In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 06 Apr 94 23:16:09 PDT." <9404070616.AA01973@wps.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.2gamma 12/21/93 Date: Thu, 07 Apr 1994 01:31:35 -0700 From: & mayer Status: OR 17 inch. From nacr@sprintlink.net Thu Apr 7 06:27:46 1994 Received: from tiny.sprintlink.net by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA03160; Thu, 7 Apr 94 06:27:41 -0700 Received: by sprintlink.net (5.65/1.34) id AA29836; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:27:32 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:27:32 -0500 From: nacr@sprintlink.net (NACR ACCOUNT) Message-Id: <9404071427.AA29836@sprintlink.net> To: nsfnet-admin@merit.edu Subject: NACRs Cc: tomj@fido.wps.com, nacr@sprintlink.net Status: OR Steve, Please process the following nacrs. thanks Lisa CArlson Tom, Please note the changes I have made to your nacr request. The appropriate response to indicate agreement to the acceptable use policy is an N in the aup area. In addition you can group your nacrs only including the netnum through the orgzip if the subsequent information on the form is identical. Just be sure to organize the information such that the nacr's begin with the %begin nsfnet nacr v7.1 and use the end description at the end of all your nacr's. I will forward you the v7.1 nacr form which must be used for all nacr requests. Please be sure to leave all the acceptable use text on the form when submitting it because that text is necessary for merit to process the request. If you have other questions just ask away. thanks Lisa Carlson ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From tomj@fido.wps.com Thu Apr 7 03:55:23 1994 From: tomj@wps.com (Tom Jennings) Subject: NACRs To: nacr@sprintlink.net Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 00:55:13 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tomj@tlg.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2542 Enclosed please find five completed NACR forms. I am the manager of RGNET (THE LITTLE GARDEN, ASN2914). Stu Grossman (grossman@cygnus.com) has been submitted them thusfar; likely they'll come from me also. Please inform me of any errors; I'll correct them ASAP. I'd appreciate it if you could acknowledge receipt of this, or forward me any document outline the NACR proceedure, if there is such a thing. Thanks, Tom Jennings ---- Network Announcement Change Request ---- NSFNET NACR Template Version 7.1 The administrators of the regional/midlevel/peer service providers that submit this request have promulgated to their service subscribers the "NSFNET BACKBONE SERVICES ACCEPTABLE USE POLICY" (NSFNET AUP) dated June 1992. These service subscribers acknowledge that they have read the NSFNET AUP and agree that traffic from their networks that will transit the NSFNET backbone service complies with the NSFNET AUP. %begin nsfnet nacr v7.1 netnum: 199.165.174.0 netname: TRIPS netcc: US orgname: TRIPS CENTRAL PARTNERSHIP orgaddr: 325A River St orgcity: Santa Cruz orgstate: CA orgzip: 95060 orgcc: US orgtype: C bbone: T3 homeas: 2914 aslist: 1:1240 2:1800 aup: N action: A comment: netnum: 199.4.218.0 netname: NFBCAL netcc: US orgname: The National Federation of the Blind of California orgaddr: 317 Laurel St. #2 orgcity: Santa Cruz orgstate: CA orgzip: 95060 orgcc: US orgtype: C bbone: T3 homeas: 2914 aslist: 1:1240 2:1800 aup: N action: A comment: netnum: 199.164.166.0 netname: ARMORY-SUB netcc: US orgname: THE ARMORY orgaddr: 305 McMillan Dr orgcity: Santa Cruz orgstate: CA orgzip: 95060 orgcc: US orgtype: C bbone: T3 homeas: 2914 aslist: 1:1240 2:1800 aup: N action: A comment: netnum: 199.79.249 netname: BOULDERCREEK netcc: US orgname: North Star Financial orgaddr: 2-2600 East Cliff Drive orgcity: Santa Cruz orgstate: CA orgzip: 95062 orgcc: US orgtype: C bbone: T3 homeas: 2914 aslist: 1:1240 2:1800 aup: N action: A comment: scruz-net netnum: 199.89.187 netname: SEI2 netcc: US orgname: Silicon Engineering (NET-SEI2) orgaddr: 269 Mt Hermon Road, Suite #207 orgcity: Scotts Valley orgstate: CA orgzip: 95066 orgcc: US orgtype: C bbone: T3 homeas: 2914 aslist: 1:1240 2:1800 aup: N action: A comment: %end nsfnet nacr -- Tom Jennings -- tomj@wps.com -- World Power Systems -- San Francisco, Calif. ----- End Included Message ----- From nacr@sprintlink.net Thu Apr 7 06:29:49 1994 Received: from tiny.sprintlink.net by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA03171; Thu, 7 Apr 94 06:29:46 -0700 Received: by sprintlink.net (5.65/1.34) id AA29846; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:29:39 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:29:39 -0500 From: nacr@sprintlink.net (NACR ACCOUNT) Message-Id: <9404071429.AA29846@sprintlink.net> To: tomj@wps.com Subject: Re: nacr 7.1 template Status: OR Tom Here is the new version of the nacr form. Lisa Carlson ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From nacr Mon Mar 21 09:10:01 1994 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 94 09:09:59 -0500 From: nacr (NACR ACCOUNT) To: chong@cola.tiac.net Subject: Re: nacr 7.1 template Cc: nacr@sprintlink.net Content-Length: 1104 > > > ----- Begin Included Message ----- > > > > --- Network Announcement Change Request ---- > > NSFNET NACR Template Version 7.1 > > > > The administrators of the regional/midlevel/peer service providers that submit this request have promulgated to their service subscribers the "NSFNET BACKBONE SERVICES ACCEPTABLE USE POLICY" (NSFNET AUP) dated June 1992. These service subscribers acknowledge that they have read the NSFNET AUP and agree that traffic from their networks that will transit the NSFNET backbone service complies with the NSFNET AUP. > > > > %begin nsfnet nacr v7.1 > > > > > ># Any entry must look like: > > > >netnum: > >netname: > >netcc: > >orgname: > >orgaddr: > >orgcity: > >orgstate: > >orgzip: > >orgcc: > >orgtype: > >bbone: > >homeas: > >aslist: > >aup: > >action: > >comment: > > > ># any other entry... > > > >%end nsfnet nacr > > > > > >----- End Included Message ----- > > > > > ----- End Included Message ----- From aa@wired.com Thu Apr 7 07:43:17 1994 Received: from wired.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA03361; Thu, 7 Apr 94 07:43:09 -0700 Received: from DialupEudora (gw.wired.com [140.174.72.1]) by gw.wired.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA11733; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 07:42:06 GMT Message-Id: <199404070742.HAA11733@gw.wired.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 07:42:26 -0800 To: tomj@wps.com (Tom Jennings), edgar@wired.com From: aa@wired.com (Andrew Anker) Subject: Re: SPCOM upgrade, WIRD CD-ROM drive... Status: OR Both the CD-ROM drive and the 1.1 disk are at Wired. I think Edgar is done doing the upgrde to Wired. Assuming he is done, it would be great if you could do the spcom upgrade (and you can borrow the CD-ROM drive). By the way, while I've got you both listening: is everything set for the Wired upgrade to T-1? I know the line's installed and by Thursday (today) we should have both CSU's. We've got our new router; is TLG's in yet? At 12:25 AM 4/7/94 -0700, Tom Jennings wrote: >Andrew, it's probably about tim I did the 1.1 upgrade to SPCOM... I'd >also like to borrow the CD-ROM myself. Is it at SP or Wired? > >Edgar, do you mind if I borrow the CD-ROM drive? > >-- > Tom Jennings -- tomj@wps.com -- World Power Systems -- San Francisco, Calif. -aa From empire@cyborganic.com Thu Apr 7 07:43:24 1994 Received: from cyborganic.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA03366; Thu, 7 Apr 94 07:43:19 -0700 Received: from dr-stupid.cyborganic.com by ramona.cyborganic.com.cyborganic.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA06261; Thu, 7 Apr 94 07:23:34 -0700 Message-Id: <9404071423.AA06261@cyborganic.com> X-Sender: jonathan@cyborganic.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 07:25:18 -0700 To: You Are Invited From: You Will Be Assimilated Subject: Three-D Happening - 16 April 1994 Status: OR -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-ramona.empire-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------->59------->67------->65 a happening in three dimenions... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=SATURDAY APRIL 16th @ 9 o'clock p.m.-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=at 59, 65, and 67 Ramona Avenue, San Francisco, CA-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-between 14th and 15th and Dolores and Guerrero=-=-=-=-=- -=-=on the fringe of San Francisco's scenic Mission District-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- RSVP: telnet cyborganic.com, login as rsvp, and prepare to be ======================>>>>ASSIMILATED<<<<======================= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ============Please do not disturb our neighbors at 61.========== ===============They have not yet been assimilated.============== -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-additional ambience provided by C3=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^SEE YOU^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^AT^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THE^PARTY^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ =========================END TRANSMISSION======================= From jonathan@cyborganic.com Thu Apr 7 08:20:03 1994 Received: from cyborganic.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA03425; Thu, 7 Apr 94 08:19:57 -0700 Received: from dr-stupid.cyborganic.com by ramona.cyborganic.com.cyborganic.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA06597; Thu, 7 Apr 94 08:19:14 -0700 Message-Id: <9404071519.AA06597@cyborganic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 08:18:43 -0700 To: tomj@wps.com (Tom Jennings) From: Jonathan Steuer Subject: Re: tlg expansion Cc: Andrew Anker Status: OR >> Would you be interested in getting together sometime in the next couple of >> weeks with Andrew Anker and myself to talk about possibilities for >> expanding TLG? > >Yes; how about early next week? Mon is bad, but Tues/Wed/Thu OK. Friday >15 I leave for Austin for 5 days. How about next Tuesday afternoon? >> Also, on a separate matter, is everything set for Wired's T1 to go in on >> Friday?? Did the other customer pan out and get their act together? Did the >> PacBell guy ever deal with getting the line installed?? > >Router is being shipped tomorrow. Telco, they're wiring it to the >26th floor. I talked to them about this Friday or Monday, but then >the installer was confused. S.N.A.F.U. > >Umm, do you have a pair of DSUs? Wired needs to provide them... I >didn't ask specifically before, maybe I should have. It's in the >FAQ. They are ordered; should be in tomorrow (they arrived yesterday COD but in usual bonehead fashion, Wired did not have a check ready. Duh.) -j- From spoon@well.sf.ca.us Thu Apr 7 08:43:08 1994 Received: from cyborganic.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA03492; Thu, 7 Apr 94 08:43:03 -0700 Received: from well.sf.ca.us by ramona.cyborganic.com.cyborganic.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA06619; Thu, 7 Apr 94 08:22:16 -0700 Received: (from spoon@localhost) by well.sf.ca.us (8.6.8/8.6.6) id IAA12456; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 08:22:44 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 08:22:44 -0700 From: Mark Petrakis Message-Id: <199404071522.IAA12456@well.sf.ca.us> To: empire@cyborganic.com, party@cyborganic.com Subject: Re: Three-D Happening - 16 April 1994 Status: OR Cool, will be at Digital DIner all day, and will likely find assimilation facscinatin'. From syoung@sprintlink.net Thu Apr 7 10:11:29 1994 Received: from tiny.sprintlink.net by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA03792; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:11:27 -0700 Received: from [144.224.5.44] by sprintlink.net (5.65/1.34) id AA02464; Thu, 7 Apr 94 13:11:20 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 94 13:11:20 -0500 Message-Id: <9404071811.AA02464@sprintlink.net> From: Susan Young To: tomj@wps.com (Tom Jennings) Subject: Re: yet another delay Status: OR Tom - I need you to send me a detailed account of the circus you suffered re SprintLink OPS. Susan From pozar@kumr.lns.com Thu Apr 7 16:09:20 1994 Received: from kumr.lns.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA04877; Thu, 7 Apr 94 16:09:16 -0700 Received: by kumr.lns.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.3) id ; Thu, 7 Apr 94 16:09 PDT Message-Id: From: pozar@kumr.lns.com (Tim Pozar) Subject: ISDN to PC -- summary (fwd) To: gnu@cygnus.com, tomj@wps.com Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 16:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1908 Status: OR FYI... Tim -- blumberg@aol.com wrote: > From uunet.uu.net!owner-post-info-nets Thu Apr 7 15:58:13 1994 > Errors-To: owner-info-nets@Think.COM > From: blumberg@aol.com > X-Mailer: America Online Mailer > Message-Id: <9404071629.tn519843@aol.com> > To: info-nets@Think.COM > Date: Thu, 07 Apr 94 16:29:00 EDT > Subject: ISDN to PC -- summary > Errors-To: owner-info-nets@Think.COM > Sender: Info-Nets Mailing List > X-Administrator: Robert L. Krawitz > Precedence: bulk > Approved: info-nets@think.com > > Thanks all for helping. Here's a summary of what I've learned to date for > any who might be interested... > > Still, any additional info on the following would be welcome: > 1) cheaper ISDN cards/modems > 2) differences between ISDN & EuroISDN (are they compatible?) > > SUMMARY TO DATE: > > ISDN Cards for PC: > ---------------- > * AccessWorks! (NJ) external TA-NT1 $500 > * ISDN Systems Corp: $500 > (should ship this spring or soon thereafter) > * The IBM Waverunner lists for $520- $545 > * ISC (Vienna VA): about $600. > > Caution: "Some (like the $500 ISDN Systems Corp. board) right now only use > their own encapsulation, not standard PPP, so they only talk to their own > dial-in hubs." (-->goldstein@carafe.enet.dec.com) > > In Europe: > ---------- > "We have here in Holland, for EuroISDN, the AVM A1 card which is sold by > PTT-Telecom for some $400. This a a card with no additional functionality." > (-->Victor.Reijs@SURFnet.nl) > > "The cheapest terminal adaptor I have heard about is from TELES in Berlin > Germany. This is about 298 ECU i.e.459 DM. " (-->jmota@cet.pt) > (--> that's $US 290 (1DM=.63$US) -mlb) > -- Internet: pozar@kumr.lns.com Snail: Tim Pozar / KKSF / 77 Maiden Lane / San Francisco CA 94108 / USA POTS: +1 415 788 2022 Radio: KC6GNJ / KAE6247 From edgar@wired.com Thu Apr 7 21:14:53 1994 Received: from gw.wired.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA05820; Thu, 7 Apr 94 21:14:50 -0700 Received: from localhost (edgar@localhost) by gw.wired.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) id VAA03969; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 21:14:00 GMT Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 21:14:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Edgar Nielsen Subject: Weird serial/slip bug with 1.1 To: Tom Jennings Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Hi, I've found that if the slip modem is power cycled OR the phone line is disconnected, BSDI 1.1 will panic and crash. I haven't checked to see if our dialin modem(non-SLIP) causes similar problems. I'll do more testing tomorrow..... edgar From edgar@wired.com Thu Apr 7 21:21:37 1994 Received: from gw.wired.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA05844; Thu, 7 Apr 94 21:21:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (edgar@localhost) by gw.wired.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) id VAA04082; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 21:20:47 GMT Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 21:20:47 +0000 (GMT) From: Edgar Nielsen Subject: CSU/DSU To: Tom Jennings Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Yo I hear you installed our CSU/DSU tonite - thanks. I've never used one of these beasts before, do you have any hints on using them, especially on diagnosing problems using the loopback stuff? Edgar From jonl@io.com Thu Apr 7 22:06:53 1994 Received: from illuminati.io.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA05929; Thu, 7 Apr 94 22:06:50 -0700 Received: from localhost by illuminati.io.com (8.6.5/PERFORMIX-0.9/08-16-92) id AAA21908; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 00:05:27 -0500 From: jonl@io.com (Jon K Lebkowsky) Message-Id: <199404080505.AAA21908@illuminati.io.com> Subject: Re: more on lizards To: hlr@well.sf.ca.us (Howard Rheingold) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 00:05:25 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tomj@wps.com, sandy@actlab.rtf.utexas.edu In-Reply-To: <199404080332.UAA08909@well.sf.ca.us> from "Howard Rheingold" at Apr 7, 94 08:32:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 971 Status: OR > I have a CNN gig on the 15th so I'm taking a later flight, arriving > around 9. So by the time I get outta the airport and check into my > hotel, it will prolly be over. When does the action start on the > morning of the 16th? > We can grab a late breakfast at Las Manitas and talk about what we're doing with the virtual community event...I better copy this to Tom and Sandy, too. I'll suggest we meet around 11am and plan to be in place at the Hyatt by 1, which gives us plenty of time to pull our routines together. 8) Room's limited to 100 folks, so we it'll still be borderline intimate. heh. We'll probably cram over the limit.... What I'm after is a workshop feel, a sense that we're meeting with the folks rather than lecturing and presenting. Tentative timeline would be something like Tom at 1:30 for 30-45 minutes plus questions, then Sandy, then you...tho order can be changed. Then everybody together as a panel fielding questions/discussion. thx Jon From daemon Fri Apr 8 04:11:45 1994 Received: by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA07147; Fri, 8 Apr 94 04:02:01 -0700 Message-Id: <9404081102.AA07147@wps.com> From: root (Cron Daemon) To: root Subject: cron for root@fido said this Date: Fri Apr 8 04:03:00 1994 X-Cron-Cmd: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: Status: O Started at Fri Apr 8 04:02:01 PDT 1994 Filesystem 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/wd0a 15758 11728 2454 83% / /dev/wd0h 321678 275750 13760 95% /usr /dev/wd1a 103482 88832 4300 95% /u /dev/wd1h 533988 429252 51336 89% /hell Connects: (logged to /etc/connect.log) Apr 7 04:28:03 fido telnetd[2876]: connect from crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us Apr 7 12:35:04 fido telnetd[4187]: connect from AXP2.ACF.NYU.EDU Apr 7 19:02:18 fido ftpd[5518]: connect from miniac.etu.gel.ulaval.ca Apr 7 23:39:19 fido telnetd[6161]: connect from ACF1.NYU.EDU Authlog errors, etc who /var/log/wtmp ttyp5 Apr 7 04:30 flesh tty03 Apr 7 06:48 tty03 Apr 7 06:51 mykel ttyp5 Apr 7 12:35 (AXP2.ACF.NYU.EDU) ttyp5 Apr 7 12:44 flesh tty03 Apr 7 17:19 tty03 Apr 7 17:35 simone ttyp7 Apr 7 18:17 (dos) ttyp7 Apr 7 18:47 dina ttyp5 Apr 7 18:52 (dos) ttyp5 Apr 7 18:55 mykel ttyp5 Apr 7 23:39 (ACF1.NYU.EDU) ttyp5 Apr 7 23:41 Contents of /u/ftp/writable total 4 drwxrwxrwx 2 root guest 512 Feb 11 18:18 ./ dr-xr-xr-x 6 ftp guest 512 Feb 11 18:17 ../ Contents of messages (filtered) : Apr 7 04:35:01 fido kernel: wt: density QIC150 Apr 7 04:35:02 fido kernel: wt0: illegal command Apr 7 17:34:32 fido kernel: we0: timed out, resetting Apr 7 17:35:02 fido kernel: we0: timed out, resetting Apr 7 23:48:19 fido named[64]: reloading nameserver Apr 8 00:26:55 fido ftpd[6338]: FTP LOGIN REFUSED FROM dog.wps.com, tomj Contents of maillog: root 1 244 Emptying unused logs; /var/cron/log, /var/cron/log, Mail Queue (1 request) --QID-- --Size-- -----Q-Time----- ------------Sender/Recipient------------ AA07147 (no control file) Started security at Fri Apr 8 04:02:04 PDT 1994 /dev/fd0a on /mnt (read-only, local) Check for new/different SUIDs/SGIDs 17d16 < -rwsr-xr-x 1 root bin 143360 Mar 7 02:16 /usr/bin/passwd 45,46c44,45 < -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 192648 Jan 20 21:30 /usr/local/bin/ntpdate < -rws--x--x 1 root staff 64686 Mar 22 09:54 /usr/local/bin/watcher --- > -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 192648 Apr 4 18:47 /usr/local/bin/ntpdate > -rwsr-xr-x 1 root staff 64686 Apr 4 18:47 /usr/local/bin/watcher 69,75c68,74 < -r-s------ 1 root wheel 98 Mar 23 04:51 /hell/tlg.org/tlg/named/restart < -rwsr-x--x 1 root wheel 64582 Mar 20 06:25 /hell/tlg.org/usr/local/bin/watcher < -rwsr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1499136 Nov 13 23:35 /hell/X11/bin/X < -rwsr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1499136 Nov 13 23:35 /hell/X11/bin/X386-SGCS < -rwsr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1305029 Nov 13 23:35 /hell/X11/bin/Xbsdi386 < -rwsr-xr-x 1 root wheel 479232 Nov 13 23:35 /hell/X11/bin/xload < -rwsr-xr-x 1 root wheel 589824 Feb 3 19:59 /hell/X11/bin/xterm --- > -r-s------ 1 root wheel 98 Apr 7 04:47 /hell/tlg.org/tlg/named/restart > -rwsr-x--x 1 root wheel 64582 Apr 3 06:21 /hell/tlg.org/usr/local/bin/watcher > -rwsr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1499136 Apr 5 12:42 /hell/X11/bin/X > -rwsr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1499136 Apr 5 12:41 /hell/X11/bin/X386-SGCS > -rwsr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1305029 Apr 5 12:41 /hell/X11/bin/Xbsdi386 > -rwsr-xr-x 1 root wheel 479232 Apr 5 12:42 /hell/X11/bin/xload > -rwsr-xr-x 1 root wheel 589824 Apr 5 12:42 /hell/X11/bin/xterm ### Phase 1: Reading configuration file ### Phase 2: Generating file list ### Phase 3: Creating file information database ### Phase 4: Searching for inconsistencies ### ### Total files scanned: 1154 ### Files added: 80 ### Files deleted: 3 ### Files changed: 735 ### ### After applying rules: ### Changes discarded: 551 ### Changes remaining: 350 ### added: -rwx------ root 20 Mar 30 23:31:16 1994 /etc/sendmail/bin/tpage added: drwx------ root 1536 Apr 8 00:08:56 1994 /etc/copy added: 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-rw------- root 18 Apr 8 00:04:07 1994 /etc/copy/exports.unused added: -rwx------ root 835 Apr 8 00:04:07 1994 /etc/copy/fingerfuck added: -rw------- root 104 Apr 8 00:04:07 1994 /etc/copy/fstab added: -rw------- root 104 Apr 8 00:04:07 1994 /etc/copy/fstab.ok added: -rwx------ root 78 Apr 8 00:04:07 1994 /etc/copy/fsuid added: -rw------- root 153 Apr 8 00:04:07 1994 /etc/copy/ftpusers added: -rw------- root 313 Apr 8 00:04:07 1994 /etc/copy/group.fido added: -rw------- root 718 Apr 8 00:04:07 1994 /etc/copy/hosts added: -rw------- root 602 Apr 8 00:04:07 1994 /etc/copy/hosts.allow added: -rw------- root 425 Apr 8 00:04:07 1994 /etc/copy/hosts.deny added: -rw------- root 37 Apr 8 00:04:07 1994 /etc/copy/hosts.lpd added: -rw------- root 1652 Apr 8 00:04:08 1994 /etc/copy/inetd.conf added: -rw------- root 1508 Apr 8 00:04:08 1994 /etc/copy/inetd.conf.kerberos added: -rwx------ root 817 Apr 8 00:04:08 1994 /etc/copy/localtime added: -rw------- root 98 Apr 8 00:04:08 1994 /etc/copy/mail.rc added: -rw------- root 2440 Apr 8 00:04:12 1994 /etc/copy/ttys.fido added: -rw------- root 1575 Apr 8 00:04:08 1994 /etc/copy/master.passwd added: -rw------- root 700 Apr 8 00:04:08 1994 /etc/copy/monthly added: -rw------- root 108 Apr 8 00:04:08 1994 /etc/copy/monthly.local added: -rw------- root 292 Apr 8 00:04:08 1994 /etc/copy/motd added: -rw------- root 953 Apr 8 00:04:09 1994 /etc/copy/mtoolsrc added: -rw------- root 1346 Apr 8 00:04:09 1994 /etc/copy/named.boot added: -rw------- root 336 Apr 8 00:04:09 1994 /etc/copy/networks added: -rw------- root 1301 Apr 8 00:04:09 1994 /etc/copy/passwd added: -rw------- root 154 Apr 8 00:04:09 1994 /etc/copy/phones added: -rw------- root 562 Apr 8 00:04:09 1994 /etc/copy/ppp.sys added: -rw------- root 1668 Apr 8 00:04:09 1994 /etc/copy/printcap added: -rw------- root 708 Apr 8 00:04:09 1994 /etc/copy/profile added: -rw------- root 492 Apr 8 00:04:09 1994 /etc/copy/protocols added: -rw------- root 11520 Apr 8 00:04:09 1994 /etc/copy/pwd.db added: -rw------- root 2613 Apr 8 00:04:11 1994 /etc/copy/services.fido added: -rw------- root 1305 Apr 8 00:04:10 1994 /etc/copy/remote added: -rw------- root 782 Apr 8 00:04:10 1994 /etc/copy/rpc added: -rwx------ root 705 Apr 8 00:04:10 1994 /etc/copy/save-crit added: -rwx------ root 1309 Apr 8 00:04:10 1994 /etc/copy/security added: -rw------- root 14120 Apr 8 00:04:10 1994 /etc/copy/sendmail.cf added: -rw------- root 0 Apr 8 00:04:10 1994 /etc/copy/sendmail.cw added: -rw------- root 106068 Apr 8 00:04:11 1994 /etc/copy/sendmail.fc added: -rw------- root 178 Apr 8 00:04:11 1994 /etc/copy/shells added: -r-x------ root 80 Apr 8 00:04:11 1994 /etc/copy/slip-start added: -rw------- root 105 Apr 8 00:04:11 1994 /etc/copy/slip.hosts added: -rwx------ root 681 Apr 8 00:04:11 1994 /etc/copy/slip.login added: -r-x------ root 45942 Apr 8 00:04:11 1994 /etc/copy/smrsh added: -rw------- root 12288 Apr 8 00:04:11 1994 /etc/copy/spwd.db added: -rw------- root 0 Apr 8 00:04:11 1994 /etc/copy/start-X added: -r-x------ root 176 Apr 8 00:04:12 1994 /etc/copy/tlg-backup added: -r-x------ root 79 Apr 8 00:04:12 1994 /etc/copy/tlg-daily added: -rwx------ root 115 Apr 8 00:04:12 1994 /etc/copy/watcher-urgent added: -rw------- root 710 Apr 8 00:04:12 1994 /etc/copy/watcher.conf added: -rw------- root 3804 Apr 8 00:04:07 1994 /etc/copy/gettytab.fido added: -rw------- root 2035 Apr 8 00:04:09 1994 /etc/copy/netstart.fido added: -rw------- root 1653 Apr 8 00:04:09 1994 /etc/copy/rc.local.fido added: -rw------- root 269 Apr 8 00:04:12 1994 /etc/copy/syslog.conf.fido added: -rwx------ root 24 Mar 26 23:44:56 1994 /etc/slip-start added: -rwxr-xr-x root 115 Mar 30 21:17:46 1994 /etc/watcher-urgent added: drwxr-x--x root 512 Apr 1 11:11:51 1994 /usr/local/etc/tpage added: drwxrwxrwt root 512 Apr 7 13:39:56 1994 /usr/local/etc/tpage/pqueue added: -rwx--x--x root 41103 Apr 1 11:01:31 1994 /usr/local/etc/tpage/ixocico added: -rw-r--r-- root 482 Apr 1 13:30:22 1994 /usr/local/etc/tpage/table added: -rw-r--r-- root 2140 Mar 30 14:17:22 1994 /usr/local/etc/tpage/schedule added: -rwx------ root 630 Mar 30 19:36:15 1994 /usr/local/etc/tpage/startdaemon added: -rwx------ root 12061 Mar 31 23:35:28 1994 /usr/local/etc/tpage/tpaged added: -rw-r--r-- tomj 67340 Apr 2 22:27:07 1994 /u/ftp/pub/smiley-hand-cut.gif deleted: -rw-r--r-- root 180224 Mar 14 11:57:21 1994 /etc/core.X deleted: -rw-r--r-- root 1089 Dec 17 15:05:36 1993 /etc/named/tlg.rg.net deleted: -rw-r--r-- root 995 Dec 29 11:32:15 1993 /etc/named/tlg.org changed: drwxrwxr-x root 512 Apr 8 00:36:28 1994 / changed: drwxr-xr-x root 2048 Apr 8 02:20:11 1994 /etc changed: -rw-r--r-- root 11264 Apr 6 14:18:09 1994 /etc/aliases.db changed: -rw-r--r-- root 1710 Apr 6 14:18:01 1994 /etc/sendmail/aliases changed: drwxr-xr-x root 512 Mar 30 23:31:37 1994 /etc/sendmail/bin changed: -rw-r--r-- root 1323 Mar 30 21:23:44 1994 /etc/crontab changed: -rw------- root 176 Apr 4 16:32:54 1994 /etc/dumpdates 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changed: drwxr-xr-x root 512 Apr 8 01:28:50 1994 /hell changed: drwx------ root 1024 Apr 7 04:21:43 1994 /hell/cobol changed: -rwsr-sr-x root 1499136 Mar 24 17:40:12 1993 /usr/X11/bin/X changed: -rwsr-sr-x root 1499136 Mar 24 17:40:12 1993 /usr/X11/bin/X386-SGCS changed: -rwsr-sr-x root 1305029 Mar 28 06:42:10 1993 /usr/X11/bin/Xbsdi386 changed: -rwxr-xr-x root 57344 Mar 28 06:38:27 1993 /usr/X11/bin/bdftopcf changed: -rwxr-xr-x root 118784 Mar 28 06:38:29 1993 /usr/X11/bin/mkfontdir changed: -rwxr-xr-x root 49152 Mar 28 06:38:30 1993 /usr/X11/bin/fsinfo changed: -rwxr-xr-x root 53248 Mar 28 06:38:32 1993 /usr/X11/bin/fslsfonts changed: -rwxr-xr-x root 118784 Mar 28 06:38:34 1993 /usr/X11/bin/fstobdf changed: -rwxr-xr-x root 53248 Mar 28 06:38:35 1993 /usr/X11/bin/showfont changed: -rwxr-xr-x root 180224 Mar 28 06:41:38 1993 /usr/X11/bin/fs changed: -rwxr-xr-x root 53248 Mar 22 18:35:04 1993 /usr/X11/bin/rgb changed: -rwxr-xr-x root 45056 Mar 28 06:42:24 1993 /usr/X11/bin/showrgb 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/usr/X11/bin/xcutsel changed: -rwxr-xr-x root 462848 Mar 28 06:43:37 1993 /usr/X11/bin/xclock changed: -rwxr-xr-x root 118784 Mar 28 06:43:39 1993 /usr/X11/bin/xcmsdb changed: -rwxr-xr-x root 540672 Mar 28 06:43:58 1993 /usr/X11/bin/xedit changed: -rwxr-xr-x root 491520 Mar 28 06:44:01 1993 /usr/X11/bin/xfd changed: -rwxr-xr-x root 532480 Mar 28 06:43:45 1993 /usr/X11/bin/xconsole changed: -rwxr-xr-x root 614400 Mar 28 06:43:50 1993 /usr/X11/bin/xditview changed: -rwxr-xr-x root 114688 Mar 28 06:43:53 1993 /usr/X11/bin/xdpyinfo changed: -rwxr-xr-x root 151552 Mar 28 06:44:04 1993 /usr/X11/bin/xkill changed: -rwsr-sr-x root 479232 Mar 28 06:44:07 1993 /usr/X11/bin/xload changed: -rwxr-xr-x root 458752 Mar 28 06:44:11 1993 /usr/X11/bin/xlogo changed: -rwxr-xr-x root 102400 Mar 28 06:44:13 1993 /usr/X11/bin/xlsatoms changed: -rwxr-xr-x root 106496 Mar 28 06:44:15 1993 /usr/X11/bin/xlsclients changed: -rwxr-xr-x root 184320 Mar 28 06:44:17 1993 /usr/X11/bin/xlsfonts changed: -rwxr-xr-x 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Nov 13 23:35:33 1993 /hell/X11/bin/X386-SGCS st_ctime: Tue Apr 5 12:41:49 1994 Sat Nov 13 23:35:34 1993 /hell/X11/bin/Xbsdi386 st_ctime: Tue Apr 5 12:41:49 1994 Sat Nov 13 23:35:35 1993 /hell/X11/bin/xload st_ctime: Tue Apr 5 12:42:08 1994 Sat Nov 13 23:35:36 1993 /hell/X11/bin/xterm st_ctime: Tue Apr 5 12:42:08 1994 Thu Feb 3 19:59:02 1994 Ended at Fri Apr 8 04:11:44 PDT 1994 From skw@merit.edu Fri Apr 8 08:31:47 1994 Received: from merit.edu by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA07927; Fri, 8 Apr 94 08:31:39 -0700 Received: (skw@localhost) by merit.edu (8.6.8.1/merit-1.0) id KAA24942; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 10:59:59 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 10:59:59 -0400 From: "Steven K. Widmayer" Message-Id: <199404081459.KAA24942@merit.edu> To: nacr@sprintlink.net, nsfnet-admin@merit.edu Subject: Re: NACRs Cc: tomj@fido.wps.com Status: O Your request has been processed in the NSFNET/ANSnet policy-based routing database. The new configuration will be installed on the backbone by 08:00 ET. --Steve Widmayer / Merit *********************************************************************** From nacr@sprintlink.net Thu Apr 7 09:27:39 1994 Received: from sprintlink.net (tiny.sprintlink.net [199.0.55.90]) by merit.edu (8.6.8.1/merit-1.0) with SMTP id JAA28095 for ; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 09:27:38 -0400 Received: by sprintlink.net (5.65/1.34) id AA29836; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:27:32 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:27:32 -0500 From: nacr@sprintlink.net (NACR ACCOUNT) Message-Id: <9404071427.AA29836@sprintlink.net> To: nsfnet-admin@merit.edu Subject: NACRs Cc: tomj@fido.wps.com, nacr@sprintlink.net Status: OR Steve, Please process the following nacrs. thanks Lisa CArlson Tom, Please note the changes I have made to your nacr request. The appropriate response to indicate agreement to the acceptable use policy is an N in the aup area. In addition you can group your nacrs only including the netnum through the orgzip if the subsequent information on the form is identical. Just be sure to organize the information such that the nacr's begin with the %begin nsfnet nacr v7.1 and use the end description at the end of all your nacr's. I will forward you the v7.1 nacr form which must be used for all nacr requests. Please be sure to leave all the acceptable use text on the form when submitting it because that text is necessary for merit to process the request. If you have other questions just ask away. thanks Lisa Carlson ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From tomj@fido.wps.com Thu Apr 7 03:55:23 1994 From: tomj@wps.com (Tom Jennings) Subject: NACRs To: nacr@sprintlink.net Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 00:55:13 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tomj@tlg.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2542 Enclosed please find five completed NACR forms. I am the manager of RGNET (THE LITTLE GARDEN, ASN2914). Stu Grossman (grossman@cygnus.com) has been submitted them thusfar; likely they'll come from me also. Please inform me of any errors; I'll correct them ASAP. I'd appreciate it if you could acknowledge receipt of this, or forward me any document outline the NACR proceedure, if there is such a thing. Thanks, Tom Jennings ---- Network Announcement Change Request ---- NSFNET NACR Template Version 7.1 The administrators of the regional/midlevel/peer service providers that submit this request have promulgated to their service subscribers the "NSFNET BACKBONE SERVICES ACCEPTABLE USE POLICY" (NSFNET AUP) dated June 1992. These service subscribers acknowledge that they have read the NSFNET AUP and agree that traffic from their networks that will transit the NSFNET backbone service complies with the NSFNET AUP. %begin nsfnet nacr v7.1 netnum: 199.165.174.0 netname: TRIPS netcc: US orgname: TRIPS CENTRAL PARTNERSHIP orgaddr: 325A River St orgcity: Santa Cruz orgstate: CA orgzip: 95060 orgcc: US orgtype: C bbone: T3 homeas: 2914 aslist: 1:1240 2:1800 aup: N action: A comment: netnum: 199.4.218.0 netname: NFBCAL netcc: US orgname: The National Federation of the Blind of California orgaddr: 317 Laurel St. #2 orgcity: Santa Cruz orgstate: CA orgzip: 95060 orgcc: US orgtype: C bbone: T3 homeas: 2914 aslist: 1:1240 2:1800 aup: N action: A comment: netnum: 199.164.166.0 netname: ARMORY-SUB netcc: US orgname: THE ARMORY orgaddr: 305 McMillan Dr orgcity: Santa Cruz orgstate: CA orgzip: 95060 orgcc: US orgtype: C bbone: T3 homeas: 2914 aslist: 1:1240 2:1800 aup: N action: A comment: netnum: 199.79.249 netname: BOULDERCREEK netcc: US orgname: North Star Financial orgaddr: 2-2600 East Cliff Drive orgcity: Santa Cruz orgstate: CA orgzip: 95062 orgcc: US orgtype: C bbone: T3 homeas: 2914 aslist: 1:1240 2:1800 aup: N action: A comment: scruz-net netnum: 199.89.187 netname: SEI2 netcc: US orgname: Silicon Engineering (NET-SEI2) orgaddr: 269 Mt Hermon Road, Suite #207 orgcity: Scotts Valley orgstate: CA orgzip: 95066 orgcc: US orgtype: C bbone: T3 homeas: 2914 aslist: 1:1240 2:1800 aup: N action: A comment: %end nsfnet nacr -- Tom Jennings -- tomj@wps.com -- World Power Systems -- San Francisco, Calif. ----- End Included Message ----- From ee@lever.com Fri Apr 8 10:22:41 1994 Received: from lever.lever.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA08148; Fri, 8 Apr 94 10:22:37 -0700 Received: by lever.lever.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.7) id ; Fri, 8 Apr 94 10:17 PDT Message-Id: To: admin@tlg.org Cc: Tom Jennings Subject: Potential customer Reply-To: ee@lever.com Date: Fri, 08 Apr 1994 10:17:20 -0700 From: Edward Elhauge Status: OR Try calling Kurt at Colossal Pictures. They want to put in a T1 line soon. They want to decide in the next day or two. Colossal, 2800 Third Street, SF, 415-550-8772 -- Edward Elhauge |"The strongest reason for the people to retain the Lever Industries | right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, San Francisco | to protect themselves against tyranny in government." ee@lever.com | -- Thomas Jefferson From tomj Fri Apr 8 10:38:06 1994 Received: from localhost (tomj@localhost) by fido.wps.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) id KAA00289 for tomj; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 10:38:05 -0700 From: Tom Jennings Message-Id: <199404081738.KAA00289@fido.wps.com> Subject: foo To: tomj@wps.com (Tom Jennings) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 10:38:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 84 Status: OR -- Tom Jennings -- tomj@wps.com -- World Power Systems -- San Francisco, Calif. From pozar@kksf.tbo.com Fri Apr 8 10:39:03 1994 Received: from kksf.tbo.com (slip1.lns.com [140.174.7.51]) by fido.wps.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA00307 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 10:38:53 -0700 Received: from localhost by kksf.tbo.com (8.3/1.34) id SAA00515; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 18:34:22 -0700 From: pozar@kksf.tbo.com (Tim Pozar) Message-Id: <199404090134.SAA00515@kksf.tbo.com> Subject: sendmail.cf To: tomj@wps.com Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 18:34:22 -40962758 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 12916 Status: OR # # Sendmail # Copyright (c) 1983 Eric P. Allman # Berkeley, California # # Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. # All rights reserved. The Berkeley software License Agreement # specifies the terms and conditions for redistribution. # # @(#)tcpproto.mc 1.2 (Berkeley) 1/24/89 # @(#)proto.mc 1.20 (Berkeley) 1/25/89 # # built by phil on Wed Jan 25 11:48:18 PST 1989 # in /usr/src/local/nettables/sendmail.cf/cf on monet.Berkeley.EDU # ############################################################ ############################################################ ##### ##### SENDMAIL CONFIGURATION FILE ##### ############################################################ ############################################################ ################## # local info # ################## # file containing our internet aliases #Fw/usr/lib/sendmail.cw ############################# ### Setup Information ### ############################# ###################### # General Macros # ###################### # local domain name DDtbo.com # UUCP relay host DRrelay1.uu.net # csnet relay host DCrelay1.uu.net # bitnet relay host DBrelay1.uu.net # my official hostname Dj$w ############### # Classes # ############### # Internal ("fake") domains that we use in rewriting CIUUCP BITNET CSNET # Domainist hack from Kenton Hoover (see named file tbo.com) # Cw == other names this host is known by. # Cwtbo.com # Cwtbo kksf.tbo.com # CwLNS LNS.LNS.COM ###################### # Version Number # ###################### DZ1.34 ###################### # Special macros # ###################### # my name DnMAILER-DAEMON # UNIX header format DlFrom $g $d # delimiter (operator) characters Do.:%@!^=/[] # format of a total name Dq$g$?x ($x)$. # SMTP login message De$j Sendmail $v/$Z ready at $b ############### # Options # ############### # location of alias file # OA/var/lib/aliases OA/etc/aliases # wait up to ten minutes for alias file rebuild Oa10 # substitution for space (blank) characters OB. # (don't) connect to "expensive" mailers #Oc # default delivery mode (deliver in background) Odbackground # temporary file mode OF0600 # default GID Og1 # location of help file OH/usr/share/sendmail.hf # log level OL9 # default network name ONARPA # default messages to old style Oo # queue directory OQ/var/spool/mqueue # read timeout -- violates protocols Or2h # status file OS/var/log/sendmail.st # queue up everything before starting transmission Os # default timeout interval OT3d # time zone names (V6 only) OtPST,PDT # default UID Ou1 # wizard's password OW* # load average at which we just queue messages Ox8 # load average at which we refuse connections OX12 ########################### # Message precedences # ########################### Pfirst-class=0 Pspecial-delivery=100 Pbulk=-60 Pjunk=-100 ##################### # Trusted users # ##################### Troot Tdaemon Tuucp ######################### # Format of headers # ######################### H?P?Return-Path: <$g> HReceived: $?sfrom $s $.by $j ($v/$Z) id $i; $b H?D?Resent-Date: $a H?D?Date: $a H?F?Resent-From: $q H?F?From: $q H?x?Full-Name: $x HSubject: # HPosted-Date: $a # H?l?Received-Date: $b H?M?Resent-Message-Id: <$t.$i@$j> H?M?Message-Id: <$t.$i@$j> ########################### ### Rewriting Rules ### ########################### ################################ # Sender Field Pre-rewriting # ################################ S1 #R$*<$*>$* $1$2$3 defocus ################################### # Recipient Field Pre-rewriting # ################################### S2 #R$*<$*>$* $1$2$3 defocus ################################# # Final Output Post-rewriting # ################################# S4 R@ $@ handle <> error addr # resolve numeric addresses to name if possible R$*<@[$+]>$* $:$1<@$[[$2]$]>$3 lookup numeric internet addr # externalize local domain info R$*<$+>$* $1$2$3 defocus R@$+:@$+:$+ @$1,@$2:$3 canonical # UUCP must always be presented in old form R$+@$-.UUCP $2!$1 u@h.UUCP => h!u # delete duplicate local names R$+%$=w@$=w $1@$w u%host@host => u@host R$+%$=w@$=w.$D $1@$w u%host@host => u@host ########################### # Name Canonicalization # ########################### S3 # handle "from:<>" special case R$*<>$* $@@ turn into magic token # basic textual canonicalization -- note RFC733 heuristic here R$*<$*<$*<$+>$*>$*>$* $4 3-level <> nesting R$*<$*<$+>$*>$* $3 2-level <> nesting R$*<$+>$* $2 basic RFC821/822 parsing # make sure <@a,@b,@c:user@d> syntax is easy to parse -- undone later R@$+,$+ @$1:$2 change all "," to ":" # localize and dispose of route-based addresses R@$+:$+ $@$>6<@$1>:$2 handle # more miscellaneous cleanup R$+ $:$>8$1 host dependent cleanup R$+:$*;@$+ $@$1:$2;@$3 list syntax R$+:$*; $@$1:$2; list syntax R$+@$+ $:$1<@$2> focus on domain R$+<$+@$+> $1$2<@$3> move gaze right R$+<@$+> $@$>6$1<@$2> already canonical # convert old-style addresses to a domain-based address R$+^$+ $1!$2 convert ^ to ! R$-!$+ $@$>6$2<@$1.UUCP> resolve uucp names R$+.$-!$+ $@$>6$3<@$1.$2> domain uucps R$+!$+ $@$>6$2<@$1.UUCP> uucp subdomains R$+%$+ $:$>9$1%$2 user%host R$+<@$+> $@$>6$1<@$2> already canonical R$-.$+ $@$>6$2<@$1> host.user ################################# # special local conversions # ################################# S6 R$*<@$=w>$* $:$1<@$w>$3 get into u@$w form R$*<@$=w.$D>$* $:$1<@$w>$3 R$*<@$=U.UUCP>$* $:$1<@$w>$3 ################################ # Change rightmost % to @. # ################################ S9 R$*%$* $1@$2 First make them all @'s. R$*@$*@$* $1%$2@$3 Undo all but the last. R$*@$* $@$1<@$2> Put back the brackets. ################### ### Mailers ### ################### ############################################################ ############################################################ ##### ##### Local and Program Mailer specification ##### ############################################################ ############################################################ Mlocal, P=/usr/libexec/mail.local, F=lmnrsDFM, S=10, R=20, A=mail -d $u Mprog, P=/bin/sh, F=lsDFMe, S=10, R=20, A=sh -c $u S10 R@ $n errors to mailer-daemon ############################################################ ############################################################ ##### ##### Local Domain SMTP Mailer specification ##### ##### Messages processed by this specification are assumed to remain ##### the local domain. Hence, they can refer to hosts that are ##### not registered in the NIC host table. ##### ############################################################ ############################################################ Mtcpld, P=[IPC], F=mDFMueXLC, S=17, R=27, A=IPC $h, E=\r\n S17 # cleanup forwarding a bit R$*<$*>$* $1$2$3 defocus R$* $:$>3$1 canonicalize R$*%$*<@$w> $:$>9$1%$2 user%localhost@localdomain # pass 's through R<@$+>$* $@<@$[$1$]>$2 resolve # map colons to dots everywhere R$*:$* $1.$2 map colons to dots # output local host as user@host.domain R$- $@$1<@$w> user w/o host R$+<@$w> $@$1<@$w> this host R$+<@$=w> $@$1<@$w> or an alias R$+<@$-> $:$1<@$[$2$]> ask nameserver R$+<@$w> $@$1<@$w> this host R$+<@$-> $@$1<@$2.$D> if nameserver fails # if not local, and not a "fake" domain, ask the nameserver R$+<@$+.$~I> $@$1<@$[$2.$3$]> user@host.domain R$+<@[$+]> $@$1<@[$2]> already ok # output fake domains as user%fake@relay R$+<@$+.BITNET> $@$1%$2.BITNET<@$B> user@host.bitnet R$+<@$+.CSNET> $@$1%$2.CSNET<@$C> user@host.CSNET R$+<@$+.UUCP> $@$2!$1<@$w> user@host.UUCP S27 # cleanup R$*<$*>$* $1$2$3 defocus R$* $:$>3$1 now canonical form R$*%$*<@$w> $:$>9$1%$2 user%localhost@localdomain # pass 's through R<@$+>$* $@<@$[$1$]>$2 resolve # map colons to dots everywhere R$*:$* $1.$2 map colons to dots # output local host as user@host.domain R$- $@$1<@$w> user w/o host R$+<@$w> $@$1<@$w> this host R$+<@$=w> $@$1<@$w> or an alias R$+<@$-> $:$1<@$[$2$]> ask nameserver R$+<@$w> $@$1<@$w> this host R$+<@$-> $@$1<@$2.$D> if nameserver fails # if not local, and not a "fake" domain, ask the nameserver R$+<@$+.$~I> $@$1<@$[$2.$3$]> user@host.domain R$+<@[$+]> $@$1<@[$2]> already ok # output fake domains as user%fake@relay R$+<@$+.BITNET> $@$1%$2.BITNET<@$B> user@host.BITNET R$+<@$+.CSNET> $@$1%$2.CSNET<@$C> user@host.CSNET R$+<@$+.UUCP> $@$2!$1 user@host.UUCP ############################################################ ############################################################ ##### ##### Internet SMTP Mailer specification ##### ##### Messages processed by this specification are assumed to leave ##### the local domain -- hence, they must be canonical according to ##### RFC822 etc. This means that machines not registered with ##### the NIC must be hidden behind our Internet relay. ##### ############################################################ ############################################################ Mtcp, P=[IPC], F=mDFMueXLC, S=14, R=24, A=IPC $h, E=\r\n S14 # pass 's through R<@$+>$* $@<@$[$1$]>$2 resolve # map colons to dots everywhere R$*:$* $1.$2 map colons to dots # output local host in user@host.domain syntax R$- $1<@$w> user w/o host R$+<@$=w> $:$1<@$w> this host R$+<@$-> $:$1<@$[$2$]> canonicalize into dom R$+<@$-> $:$1<@$2.$D> if nameserver fails R$+<@$=N.$D> $@$1<@$2.$D> nic-reg hosts are ok R$+<@$*.$D> $@$1%$2.$D<@$A> else -> u%h@gateway # if not local, and not a "fake" domain, ask the nameserver R$+<@$+.$~I> $@$1<@$[$2.$3$]> user@host.domain R$+<@[$+]> $@$1<@[$2]> already ok # output internal ("fake") domains as "user%host@relay" R$+<@$+.BITNET> $@$1%$2.BITNET<@$B> user@host.BITNET R$+<@$+.CSNET> $@$1%$2.CSNET<@$C> user@host.CSNET R$+<@$+.UUCP> $@$2!$1<@$w> user@host.UUCP S24 # put in <> kludge R$*<$*>$* $1$2$3 defocus R$* $:$>3$1 now canonical form # pass 's through R<@$+>$* $@<@$[$1$]>$2 resolve # map colons to dots everywhere..... R$*:$* $1.$2 map colons to dots # output local host in user@host.domain syntax R$- $1<@$w> user w/o host R$+<@$=w> $:$1<@$w> this host R$+<@$-> $:$1<@$[$2$]> canonicalize into dom R$+<@$-> $:$1<@$2.$D> if nameserver fails R$+<@$=N.$D> $@$1<@$2.$D> nic-reg hosts are ok R$+<@$*.$D> $@$1%$2.$D<@$A> else -> u%h@gateway # if not local, and not a "fake" domain, ask the nameserver R$+<@$+.$~I> $@$1<@$[$2.$3$]> user@host.domain R$+<@[$+]> $@$1<@[$2]> already ok # Hide fake domains behind relays R$+<@$+.BITNET> $@$1%$2.BITNET<@$B> user@host.BITNET R$+<@$+.CSNET> $@$1%$2.CSNET<@$C> user@host.CSNET R$+<@$+.UUCP> $@$2!$1 user@host.UUCP ##################### ### Rule Zero ### ##################### ############################################################ ############################################################ ##### ##### RULESET ZERO PREAMBLE ##### ##### The beginning of ruleset zero is constant through all ##### configurations. ##### ############################################################ ############################################################ S0 # first make canonical R$*<$*>$* $1$2$3 defocus R$+ $:$>3$1 make canonical # handle special cases R$*<@[$+]>$* $:$1<@$[[$2]$]>$3 numeric internet addr R$*<@[$+]>$* $#tcp$@[$2]$:$1@[$2]$3 numeric internet spec R$+ $:$>6$1 R$-<@$w> $#local$:$1 R@ $#error$:Invalid address handle <> form # canonicalize using the nameserver if not internal domain R$*<@$*.$~I>$* $:$1<@$[$2.$3$]>$4 R$*<@$->$* $:$1<@$[$2$]>$3 R$*<@$->$* $:$1<@$2.$D>$3 if nameserver fails # now delete the local info R<@$w>:$* $@$>0$1 @here:... -> ... R$*<@$w> $@$>0$1 ...@here -> ... ################################## # End of ruleset zero preamble # ################################## ############################################### ### Machine dependent part of Rule Zero ### ############################################### # resolve fake top level domains by forwarding to other hosts R$*<@$+.BITNET>$* $#tcp$@$B$:$1<@$2.BITNET>$3 user@host.BITNET R$*<@$+.CSNET>$* $#tcp$@$C$:$1<@$2.CSNET>$3 user@host.CSNET # forward non-local UUCP traffic to our UUCP relay R$*<@$*.UUCP>$* $#tcpld$@$R$:$1<@$2.UUCP> uucp mail # hide behind our internet relay when talking to people in the arpa domain R$*<@$*.arpa>$* $#tcp$@$2.arpa$:$1<@$2.arpa>$3 user@host.arpa # but speak domains to them if they speak domains too R$*<@$*>$* $#tcpld$@$2$:$1<@$2>$3 user@host.domain # remaining names must be local R$+ $#local$:$1 everything else From pozar@kksf.tbo.com Fri Apr 8 10:42:59 1994 Received: from kksf.tbo.com (slip1.lns.com [140.174.7.51]) by fido.wps.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA00114 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 10:42:48 -0700 Received: from localhost by kksf.tbo.com (8.3/1.34) id SAA00572; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 18:36:56 -0700 From: pozar@kksf.tbo.com (Tim Pozar) Message-Id: <199404090136.SAA00572@kksf.tbo.com> Subject: sendmail.cf To: tomj@wps.com Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 18:36:55 -40962758 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 12915 Status: OR # # Sendmail # Copyright (c) 1983 Eric P. Allman # Berkeley, California # # Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. # All rights reserved. The Berkeley software License Agreement # specifies the terms and conditions for redistribution. # # @(#)tcpproto.mc 1.2 (Berkeley) 1/24/89 # @(#)proto.mc 1.20 (Berkeley) 1/25/89 # # built by phil on Wed Jan 25 11:48:18 PST 1989 # in /usr/src/local/nettables/sendmail.cf/cf on monet.Berkeley.EDU # ############################################################ ############################################################ ##### ##### SENDMAIL CONFIGURATION FILE ##### ############################################################ ############################################################ ################## # local info # ################## # file containing our internet aliases #Fw/usr/lib/sendmail.cw ############################# ### Setup Information ### ############################# ###################### # General Macros # ###################### # local domain name DDtbo.com # UUCP relay host DRrelay1.uu.net # csnet relay host DCrelay1.uu.net # bitnet relay host DBrelay1.uu.net # my official hostname Dj$w ############### # Classes # ############### # Internal ("fake") domains that we use in rewriting CIUUCP BITNET CSNET # Domainist hack from Kenton Hoover (see named file tbo.com) # Cw == other names this host is known by. # Cwtbo.com # Cwtbo kksf.tbo.com # CwLNS LNS.LNS.COM ###################### # Version Number # ###################### DZ1.34 ###################### # Special macros # ###################### # my name DnMAILER-DAEMON # UNIX header format DlFrom $g $d # delimiter (operator) characters Do.:%@!^=/[] # format of a total name Dq$g$?x ($x)$. # SMTP login message De$j Sendmail $v/$Z ready at $b ############### # Options # ############### # location of alias file # OA/var/lib/aliases OA/etc/aliases # wait up to ten minutes for alias file rebuild Oa10 # substitution for space (blank) characters OB. # (don't) connect to "expensive" mailers #Oc # default delivery mode (deliver in background) Odbackground # temporary file mode OF0600 # default GID Og1 # location of help file OH/usr/share/sendmail.hf # log level OL9 # default network name ONARPA # default messages to old style Oo # queue directory OQ/var/spool/mqueue # read timeout -- violates protocols Or2h # status file OS/var/log/sendmail.st # queue up everything before starting transmission Os # default timeout interval OT3d # time zone names (V6 only) OtPST,PDT # default UID Ou1 # wizard's password OW* # load average at which we just queue messages Ox8 # load average at which we refuse connections OX12 ########################### # Message precedences # ########################### Pfirst-class=0 Pspecial-delivery=100 Pbulk=-60 Pjunk=-100 ##################### # Trusted users # ##################### Troot Tdaemon Tuucp ######################### # Format of headers # ######################### H?P?Return-Path: <$g> HReceived: $?sfrom $s $.by $j ($v/$Z) id $i; $b H?D?Resent-Date: $a H?D?Date: $a H?F?Resent-From: $q H?F?From: $q H?x?Full-Name: $x HSubject: # HPosted-Date: $a # H?l?Received-Date: $b H?M?Resent-Message-Id: <$t.$i@$j> H?M?Message-Id: <$t.$i@$j> ########################### ### Rewriting Rules ### ########################### ################################ # Sender Field Pre-rewriting # ################################ S1 #R$*<$*>$* $1$2$3 defocus ################################### # Recipient Field Pre-rewriting # ################################### S2 #R$*<$*>$* $1$2$3 defocus ################################# # Final Output Post-rewriting # ################################# S4 R@ $@ handle <> error addr # resolve numeric addresses to name if possible R$*<@[$+]>$* $:$1<@$[[$2]$]>$3 lookup numeric internet addr # externalize local domain info R$*<$+>$* $1$2$3 defocus R@$+:@$+:$+ @$1,@$2:$3 canonical # UUCP must always be presented in old form R$+@$-.UUCP $2!$1 u@h.UUCP => h!u # delete duplicate local names R$+%$=w@$=w $1@$w u%host@host => u@host R$+%$=w@$=w.$D $1@$w u%host@host => u@host ########################### # Name Canonicalization # ########################### S3 # handle "from:<>" special case R$*<>$* $@@ turn into magic token # basic textual canonicalization -- note RFC733 heuristic here R$*<$*<$*<$+>$*>$*>$* $4 3-level <> nesting R$*<$*<$+>$*>$* $3 2-level <> nesting R$*<$+>$* $2 basic RFC821/822 parsing # make sure <@a,@b,@c:user@d> syntax is easy to parse -- undone later R@$+,$+ @$1:$2 change all "," to ":" # localize and dispose of route-based addresses R@$+:$+ $@$>6<@$1>:$2 handle # more miscellaneous cleanup R$+ $:$>8$1 host dependent cleanup R$+:$*;@$+ $@$1:$2;@$3 list syntax R$+:$*; $@$1:$2; list syntax R$+@$+ $:$1<@$2> focus on domain R$+<$+@$+> $1$2<@$3> move gaze right R$+<@$+> $@$>6$1<@$2> already canonical # convert old-style addresses to a domain-based address R$+^$+ $1!$2 convert ^ to ! R$-!$+ $@$>6$2<@$1.UUCP> resolve uucp names R$+.$-!$+ $@$>6$3<@$1.$2> domain uucps R$+!$+ $@$>6$2<@$1.UUCP> uucp subdomains R$+%$+ $:$>9$1%$2 user%host R$+<@$+> $@$>6$1<@$2> already canonical R$-.$+ $@$>6$2<@$1> host.user ################################# # special local conversions # ################################# S6 R$*<@$=w>$* $:$1<@$w>$3 get into u@$w form R$*<@$=w.$D>$* $:$1<@$w>$3 R$*<@$=U.UUCP>$* $:$1<@$w>$3 ################################ # Change rightmost % to @. # ################################ S9 R$*%$* $1@$2 First make them all @'s. R$*@$*@$* $1%$2@$3 Undo all but the last. R$*@$* $@$1<@$2> Put back the brackets. ################### ### Mailers ### ################### ############################################################ ############################################################ ##### ##### Local and Program Mailer specification ##### ############################################################ ############################################################ Mlocal, P=/usr/libexec/mail.local, F=lmnrsDFM, S=10, R=20, A=mail -d $u Mprog, P=/bin/sh, F=lsDFMe, S=10, R=20, A=sh -c $u S10 R@ $n errors to mailer-daemon ############################################################ ############################################################ ##### ##### Local Domain SMTP Mailer specification ##### ##### Messages processed by this specification are assumed to remain ##### the local domain. Hence, they can refer to hosts that are ##### not registered in the NIC host table. ##### ############################################################ ############################################################ Mtcpld, P=[IPC], F=mDFMueXLC, S=17, R=27, A=IPC $h, E=\r\n S17 # cleanup forwarding a bit R$*<$*>$* $1$2$3 defocus R$* $:$>3$1 canonicalize R$*%$*<@$w> $:$>9$1%$2 user%localhost@localdomain # pass 's through R<@$+>$* $@<@$[$1$]>$2 resolve # map colons to dots everywhere R$*:$* $1.$2 map colons to dots # output local host as user@host.domain R$- $@$1<@$w> user w/o host R$+<@$w> $@$1<@$w> this host R$+<@$=w> $@$1<@$w> or an alias R$+<@$-> $:$1<@$[$2$]> ask nameserver R$+<@$w> $@$1<@$w> this host R$+<@$-> $@$1<@$2.$D> if nameserver fails # if not local, and not a "fake" domain, ask the nameserver R$+<@$+.$~I> $@$1<@$[$2.$3$]> user@host.domain R$+<@[$+]> $@$1<@[$2]> already ok # output fake domains as user%fake@relay R$+<@$+.BITNET> $@$1%$2.BITNET<@$B> user@host.bitnet R$+<@$+.CSNET> $@$1%$2.CSNET<@$C> user@host.CSNET R$+<@$+.UUCP> $@$2!$1<@$w> user@host.UUCP S27 # cleanup R$*<$*>$* $1$2$3 defocus R$* $:$>3$1 now canonical form R$*%$*<@$w> $:$>9$1%$2 user%localhost@localdomain # pass 's through R<@$+>$* $@<@$[$1$]>$2 resolve # map colons to dots everywhere R$*:$* $1.$2 map colons to dots # output local host as user@host.domain R$- $@$1<@$w> user w/o host R$+<@$w> $@$1<@$w> this host R$+<@$=w> $@$1<@$w> or an alias R$+<@$-> $:$1<@$[$2$]> ask nameserver R$+<@$w> $@$1<@$w> this host R$+<@$-> $@$1<@$2.$D> if nameserver fails # if not local, and not a "fake" domain, ask the nameserver R$+<@$+.$~I> $@$1<@$[$2.$3$]> user@host.domain R$+<@[$+]> $@$1<@[$2]> already ok # output fake domains as user%fake@relay R$+<@$+.BITNET> $@$1%$2.BITNET<@$B> user@host.BITNET R$+<@$+.CSNET> $@$1%$2.CSNET<@$C> user@host.CSNET R$+<@$+.UUCP> $@$2!$1 user@host.UUCP ############################################################ ############################################################ ##### ##### Internet SMTP Mailer specification ##### ##### Messages processed by this specification are assumed to leave ##### the local domain -- hence, they must be canonical according to ##### RFC822 etc. This means that machines not registered with ##### the NIC must be hidden behind our Internet relay. ##### ############################################################ ############################################################ Mtcp, P=[IPC], F=mDFMueXLC, S=14, R=24, A=IPC $h, E=\r\n S14 # pass 's through R<@$+>$* $@<@$[$1$]>$2 resolve # map colons to dots everywhere R$*:$* $1.$2 map colons to dots # output local host in user@host.domain syntax R$- $1<@$w> user w/o host R$+<@$=w> $:$1<@$w> this host R$+<@$-> $:$1<@$[$2$]> canonicalize into dom R$+<@$-> $:$1<@$2.$D> if nameserver fails R$+<@$=N.$D> $@$1<@$2.$D> nic-reg hosts are ok R$+<@$*.$D> $@$1%$2.$D<@$A> else -> u%h@gateway # if not local, and not a "fake" domain, ask the nameserver R$+<@$+.$~I> $@$1<@$[$2.$3$]> user@host.domain R$+<@[$+]> $@$1<@[$2]> already ok # output internal ("fake") domains as "user%host@relay" R$+<@$+.BITNET> $@$1%$2.BITNET<@$B> user@host.BITNET R$+<@$+.CSNET> $@$1%$2.CSNET<@$C> user@host.CSNET R$+<@$+.UUCP> $@$2!$1<@$w> user@host.UUCP S24 # put in <> kludge R$*<$*>$* $1$2$3 defocus R$* $:$>3$1 now canonical form # pass 's through R<@$+>$* $@<@$[$1$]>$2 resolve # map colons to dots everywhere..... R$*:$* $1.$2 map colons to dots # output local host in user@host.domain syntax R$- $1<@$w> user w/o host R$+<@$=w> $:$1<@$w> this host R$+<@$-> $:$1<@$[$2$]> canonicalize into dom R$+<@$-> $:$1<@$2.$D> if nameserver fails R$+<@$=N.$D> $@$1<@$2.$D> nic-reg hosts are ok R$+<@$*.$D> $@$1%$2.$D<@$A> else -> u%h@gateway # if not local, and not a "fake" domain, ask the nameserver R$+<@$+.$~I> $@$1<@$[$2.$3$]> user@host.domain R$+<@[$+]> $@$1<@[$2]> already ok # Hide fake domains behind relays R$+<@$+.BITNET> $@$1%$2.BITNET<@$B> user@host.BITNET R$+<@$+.CSNET> $@$1%$2.CSNET<@$C> user@host.CSNET R$+<@$+.UUCP> $@$2!$1 user@host.UUCP ##################### ### Rule Zero ### ##################### ############################################################ ############################################################ ##### ##### RULESET ZERO PREAMBLE ##### ##### The beginning of ruleset zero is constant through all ##### configurations. ##### ############################################################ ############################################################ S0 # first make canonical R$*<$*>$* $1$2$3 defocus R$+ $:$>3$1 make canonical # handle special cases R$*<@[$+]>$* $:$1<@$[[$2]$]>$3 numeric internet addr R$*<@[$+]>$* $#tcp$@[$2]$:$1@[$2]$3 numeric internet spec R$+ $:$>6$1 R$-<@$w> $#local$:$1 R@ $#error$:Invalid address handle <> form # canonicalize using the nameserver if not internal domain R$*<@$*.$~I>$* $:$1<@$[$2.$3$]>$4 R$*<@$->$* $:$1<@$[$2$]>$3 R$*<@$->$* $:$1<@$2.$D>$3 if nameserver fails # now delete the local info R<@$w>:$* $@$>0$1 @here:... -> ... R$*<@$w> $@$>0$1 ...@here -> ... ################################## # End of ruleset zero preamble # ################################## ############################################### ### Machine dependent part of Rule Zero ### ############################################### # resolve fake top level domains by forwarding to other hosts R$*<@$+.BITNET>$* $#tcp$@$B$:$1<@$2.BITNET>$3 user@host.BITNET R$*<@$+.CSNET>$* $#tcp$@$C$:$1<@$2.CSNET>$3 user@host.CSNET # forward non-local UUCP traffic to our UUCP relay R$*<@$*.UUCP>$* $#tcpld$@$R$:$1<@$2.UUCP> uucp mail # hide behind our internet relay when talking to people in the arpa domain R$*<@$*.arpa>$* $#tcp$@$2.arpa$:$1<@$2.arpa>$3 user@host.arpa # but speak domains to them if they speak domains too R$*<@$*>$* $#tcpld$@$2$:$1<@$2>$3 user@host.domain # remaining names must be local R$+ $#local$:$1 everything else From qarchie@sura.net Fri Apr 8 18:39:56 1994 Received: from ragnarok.sura.net by fido.wps.com (8.6.5/wps.com-hackery) id LAA00442; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 11:39:52 -0700 From: qarchie@sura.net Received: from yog-sothoth.sura.net by ragnarok.sura.net with SMTP for tomj@wps.com (5.65b/(SURAnet $Revision: 1.29 $)) id AA10524; Fri, 8 Apr 94 21:37:20 -0400 Message-Id: <9404090137.AA10524@ragnarok.sura.net> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 01:37:19 0000 To: tomj@wps.com Subject: Your search for xearth Reply-To: qarchie@sura.net Precedence: bulk Status: OR Host plaza.aarnet.edu.au Location: /X11/contrib FILE -r--r--r-- 172289 Nov 15 01:49 xearth-0.6.tar.gz Host sunb.ocs.mq.edu.au Location: /Linux/OTHER_SOFTWARE FILE -rw-r--r-- 124051 Nov 2 23:30 xearth-b1_1.tgz Host bode.ee.ualberta.ca Location: /pub/unix/HPUX/hpux9/X11R5/Demos FILE -rw-r--r-- 173990 Nov 15 00:24 xearth-0.6.tar.gz Host cs.ubc.ca Location: /mirror2/x-contrib FILE -rw-r--r-- 194622 Jul 23 1993 xearth-0.5.tar.Z Host nic.switch.ch Location: /mirror/X-contrib FILE -rw-rw-r-- 194622 Jul 24 1993 xearth-0.5.tar.Z FILE -rw-rw-r-- 172289 Nov 15 02:49 xearth-0.6.tar.gz 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172289 Nov 16 23:26 xearth-0.6.tar.gz From pozar@kksf.tbo.com Fri Apr 8 18:48:57 1994 Received: from fnord.tlg.org by fido.wps.com (8.6.5/wps.com-hackery) id LAA00580; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 11:48:54 -0700 Received: from kksf.tbo.com by fnord.tlg.org (8.3/wps.com-hackery) id SAA22199; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 18:19:26 -0700 Received: from localhost by kksf.tbo.com (8.3/1.34) id SAA00832; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 18:19:01 -0700 From: pozar@kksf.tbo.com (Tim Pozar) Message-Id: <199404090119.SAA00832@kksf.tbo.com> Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable (fwd) To: tomj@wps.com Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 18:19:00 -40962758 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1666 Status: OR Did get this on the last message I sent to you and cc to your pager... Tim -- Mail Delivery Subsystem wrote: > From daemon Fri Apr 8 18:16:26 1994 > Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 11:19:02 -0700 > From: MAILER-DAEMON@fido.wps.com (Mail Delivery Subsystem) > Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable > Message-Id: <199404081819.LAA00379@wps.com> > To: > > The original message was received at Fri, 8 Apr 1994 11:18:58 -0700 > from slip1.lns.com [140.174.7.51] > > ----- The following addresses had delivery problems ----- > "|tpage -m -M -e tomj tomj -" (unrecoverable error) > (expanded from: ) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > 554 "|tpage -m -M -e tomj tomj -"... Service unavailable > > ----- Original message follows ----- > Return-Path: > Received: from kksf.tbo.com by fido.wps.com (8.6.5/wps.com-hackery) > id LAA00378; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 11:18:58 -0700 > Received: from localhost by kksf.tbo.com (8.3/1.34) > id SAA00802; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 18:16:09 -0700 > From: pozar@kksf.tbo.com (Tim Pozar) > Message-Id: <199404090116.SAA00802@kksf.tbo.com> > Subject: got the page... > To: tomj@wps.com > Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 18:16:09 -40962758 (PDT) > Cc: tomj-page@wps.com > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Length: 39 > > Glad to know you got it going... > > Tim > > > -- Internet: pozar@kksf.tbo.com Snail: Tim Pozar / KKSF / 77 Maiden Lane / San Francisco CA 94108 / USA POTS: +1 415 788 2022 Radio: KC6GNJ / KAE6247 From flesh@wps.com Sat Apr 9 04:37:25 1994 Received: from deeptht.armory.com by fido.wps.com (8.6.5/wps.com-hackery) id VAA01761; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 21:37:14 -0700 Subject: Re: is it really painless? To: w00f@fido.wps.com Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 21:37:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Leavitt In-Reply-To: <199404081835.LAA00269@wps.com> from "Flesh" at Apr 8, 94 11:35:01 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 474 Message-ID: <9404082137.aa20180@deeptht.armory.com> Ack! Goddamn mo' CENSORED idiot! Man... why the hell'd he have to go and do that? Just pisses me off... just goes to prove what a CENSORED up world it is when Axl Rose get's his head shrunk and Kurt Cobain blows his off. Man the music shredded my brain and ripped up my soul. No more... dammit I'm gonna be fifty some day and still listening to that beat up CD wonderin' what might've been. Thomas (Do I really have to set up a FILTER/KILL file to get off this list?) From flesh@wps.com Sat Apr 9 04:50:38 1994 Received: from crl.crl.com by fido.wps.com (8.6.5/wps.com-hackery) id VAA01800; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 21:50:35 -0700 Received: by crl.crl.com id AA27311 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for w00f@fido.wps.com); Fri, 8 Apr 1994 21:49:27 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 21:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: George JP Perry Subject: Re: is it really painless? To: Thomas Leavitt Cc: w00f@fido.wps.com In-Reply-To: <9404082137.aa20180@deeptht.armory.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 8 Apr 1994, Thomas Leavitt wrote: > (Do I really have to set up a FILTER/KILL file to get off this list?) If list-mail came to me, and I wanted it not... better that it forget my name, yes, but first I would apply a filter...