From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Thu Jan 27 11:03:00 1994 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 10:54:44 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Jeff Aldrich with Acess Info systems To: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Dated Tues AIS has a 8:30 appointment with Pac Bell, to set up a leased line, he needs to talk to someone about getting some schedualing done. Also, he is having some problems finding a vendor for protmaster 2e's and would like some information on one. Work # 707-422-1034 home # 916-757-6332 email- jeff@access-info.com From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Feb 2 12:04:08 1994 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 12:03:02 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Fri Feb 4 14:27:11 1994 Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 14:19:41 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: info request To: ckoehl@hollownet.com cc: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: THE LITTLE GARDEN -- IP SERVICES The Little Garden (TLG) is a buyers club providing Internet connectivity in the greater San Francisco Bay Area. Our prices are the cost of connectivity plus our reasonably low overhead. In exchange for these low prices, we expect members to be somewhat self-sufficient technically. Many members become involved in the operation of TLG, though this is not necessary. We have Points of Presence (POPs) in San Francisco, Mountain View and Palo Alto. We have affiliates in other regions providing similar service. We are working on extending into other areas. TLG provides high-quality, reliable basic IP connectivity via full-time SLIP or PPP, secondary Domain Name Service (DNS), and in some cases, address space. We provide you with the help necessary to get online. We don't provide shell accounts, shared, part-time IP, etc. TLG places no restrictions on content or use of your connection, including reselling, "back door" hosts, etc. You are of course required to comply with any AUPs of any networks you communicate with or through and of course any applicable laws. Compliance with this is the member's responsibility. PRICES: 56K SERVICE PRICES: One-time installation fee (non-refundable) . . . . . . $400. Monthly connection fee . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $325. T1 SERVICE PRICES: One-time installation fee (non-refundable) . . . . . . $500. Monthly connection fee . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $800. Each member must provide their own CSU/DSU pair, and a 56K or T1 capable connection to their system (such as a router). Each member must also provide a standalone router at the TLG end or pay for a fraction of a multi-port router. OTHER HIGH-SPEED SERVICE: We are more than willing to work out fair prices on other types of connections at other speeds, such as 64Kb/s ISDN, 200Kb/s radio, etc. LOW-SPEED DIAL-UP SERVICE PRICES: TLG offers modem-based full-time IP using telephone lines and dialup-type modems. Additional information is provided near the end of this datasheet. Ask for further details. One-time installation fee (non-refundable) . . . . . . $250. Monthly connection fee . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $70. The following list gives estimates of goods and services that the member must cover. (Probable telco one-time installation fees, total . . $70. (Probable monthly telco charges, total . . . . . . . . $21. (Pair of v32bis/v42bis modems, retail . . . . . . . . $400. PAYMENT DETAILS: One-time installation fees, and member-supplied hardware must be provided before TLG initiates the connection. Members are invoiced for monthly connect fees three months at a time. Net 15 days, unless otherwise arranged. Initial billing starts with the first full week following the connection completion, or three weeks from start of the installation, whichever comes latest. POSSIBLE TLG/MEMBER RESOURCE SHARING: Under certain conditions, TLG may be willing to pay for the leased line to the customer's site, and a portion of the connect fee, if TLG can install a new POP at the member's site. Depending on various factors, this could significantly lower the cost to the member for IP services. As more sites are connected to this new POP, the member housing the POP would receive a portion of each additional connection fee, effectively paying for bandwidth used. Contact information: The Little Garden PO Box 410923 San Francisco CA 94141-0923 415-487-1902 info@tlg.org Associated Networks: Santa Cruz -- Santa Cruz Community Internet (scruz-net) 903 Pacific Ave. #203-A Santa Cruz, CA 95060 (408) 457-5050 info@scruz.net Santa Cruz Community Internet serves the entirety of Santa Cruz County, CA. scruz-net offers the following TCP/IP services: o medium speed 56kb and 64kb o leased line and frame relay o ISDN and centrex IS service at 64kb or 128kb o 14.4kb leased line or 14.4kb centrex o 14.4kb dial-up SLIP and PPP scruz-net offers the following application services: o news and mail forwarding o DNS registration and nameservice o FTP archive and gopher server Marin, Sonoma, and Mendocino Counties -- North Bay Network 20 Minor Court San Rafael, CA 94903 (415) 472-1600 Email: info@nbn.com Oregon, southern Washington state -- RAINet 9501 SW Westhaven Portland, OR 97225 (503) 297-8820 admin@rain.com RAINet offers the following TCP/IP services: o medium speed 56kb and 64kb o leased line and frame relay o 14.4kb leased line o 14.4kb dial-up SLIP and PPP RAINet offers the following application services: o news and mail forwarding o DNS registration and nameservice o UNIX shell accounts o POP mail accounts and POP serial dialup o dialup and PPP/SLIP gopher clients When you are in RAINet's geographic area (Oregon and Southern Washington), RAINet offers free access to customers of other RGnet consortium networks, e.g. The Little Garden. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Sat Feb 5 20:38:26 1994 Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 20:36:29 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: information on The Little Garden To: tom@tatertot.com cc: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: THE LITTLE GARDEN -- IP SERVICES The Little Garden (TLG) is a buyers club providing Internet connectivity in the greater San Francisco Bay Area. Our prices are the cost of connectivity plus our reasonably low overhead. In exchange for these low prices, we expect members to be somewhat self-sufficient technically. Many members become involved in the operation of TLG, though this is not necessary. We have Points of Presence (POPs) in San Francisco, Mountain View and Palo Alto. We have affiliates in other regions providing similar service. We are working on extending into other areas. TLG provides high-quality, reliable basic IP connectivity via full-time SLIP or PPP, secondary Domain Name Service (DNS), and in some cases, address space. We provide you with the help necessary to get online. We don't provide shell accounts, shared, part-time IP, etc. TLG places no restrictions on content or use of your connection, including reselling, "back door" hosts, etc. You are of course required to comply with any AUPs of any networks you communicate with or through and of course any applicable laws. Compliance with this is the member's responsibility. PRICES: 56K SERVICE PRICES: One-time installation fee (non-refundable) . . . . . . $400. Monthly connection fee . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $325. T1 SERVICE PRICES: One-time installation fee (non-refundable) . . . . . . $500. Monthly connection fee . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $800. Each member must provide their own CSU/DSU pair, and a 56K or T1 capable connection to their system (such as a router). Each member must also provide a standalone router at the TLG end or pay for a fraction of a multi-port router. OTHER HIGH-SPEED SERVICE: We are more than willing to work out fair prices on other types of connections at other speeds, such as 64Kb/s ISDN, 200Kb/s radio, etc. LOW-SPEED DIAL-UP SERVICE PRICES: TLG offers modem-based full-time IP using telephone lines and dialup-type modems. Additional information is provided near the end of this datasheet. Ask for further details. One-time installation fee (non-refundable) . . . . . . $250. Monthly connection fee . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $70. The following list gives estimates of goods and services that the member must cover. (Probable telco one-time installation fees, total . . $70. (Probable monthly telco charges, total . . . . . . . . $21. (Pair of v32bis/v42bis modems, retail . . . . . . . . $400. PAYMENT DETAILS: One-time installation fees, and member-supplied hardware must be provided before TLG initiates the connection. Members are invoiced for monthly connect fees three months at a time. Net 15 days, unless otherwise arranged. Initial billing starts with the first full week following the connection completion, or three weeks from start of the installation, whichever comes latest. POSSIBLE TLG/MEMBER RESOURCE SHARING: Under certain conditions, TLG may be willing to pay for the leased line to the customer's site, and a portion of the connect fee, if TLG can install a new POP at the member's site. Depending on various factors, this could significantly lower the cost to the member for IP services. As more sites are connected to this new POP, the member housing the POP would receive a portion of each additional connection fee, effectively paying for bandwidth used. Contact information: The Little Garden PO Box 410923 San Francisco CA 94141-0923 415-487-1902 info@tlg.org Associated Networks: Santa Cruz -- Santa Cruz Community Internet (scruz-net) 903 Pacific Ave. #203-A Santa Cruz, CA 95060 (408) 457-5050 info@scruz.net Santa Cruz Community Internet serves the entirety of Santa Cruz County, CA. scruz-net offers the following TCP/IP services: o medium speed 56kb and 64kb o leased line and frame relay o ISDN and centrex IS service at 64kb or 128kb o 14.4kb leased line or 14.4kb centrex o 14.4kb dial-up SLIP and PPP scruz-net offers the following application services: o news and mail forwarding o DNS registration and nameservice o FTP archive and gopher server Marin, Sonoma, and Mendocino Counties -- North Bay Network 20 Minor Court San Rafael, CA 94903 (415) 472-1600 Email: info@nbn.com Oregon, southern Washington state -- RAINet 9501 SW Westhaven Portland, OR 97225 (503) 297-8820 admin@rain.com RAINet offers the following TCP/IP services: o medium speed 56kb and 64kb o leased line and frame relay o 14.4kb leased line o 14.4kb dial-up SLIP and PPP RAINet offers the following application services: o news and mail forwarding o DNS registration and nameservice o UNIX shell accounts o POP mail accounts and POP serial dialup o dialup and PPP/SLIP gopher clients When you are in RAINet's geographic area (Oregon and Southern Washington), RAINet offers free access to customers of other RGnet consortium networks, e.g. The Little Garden. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Fri Feb 11 19:41:33 1994 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 19:38:39 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: your request for information..... To: meturne@tb1.pacbell.com cc: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: THE LITTLE GARDEN -- IP SERVICES The Little Garden (TLG) is a buyers club providing Internet connectivity in the greater San Francisco Bay Area. Our prices are the cost of connectivity plus our reasonably low overhead. In exchange for these low prices, we expect members to be somewhat self-sufficient technically. Many members become involved in the operation of TLG, though this is not necessary. We have Points of Presence (POPs) in San Francisco, Mountain View and Palo Alto. We have affiliates in other regions providing similar service. We are working on extending into other areas. TLG provides high-quality, reliable basic IP connectivity via full-time SLIP or PPP, secondary Domain Name Service (DNS), and in some cases, address space. We provide you with the help necessary to get online. We don't provide shell accounts, shared, part-time IP, etc. TLG places no restrictions on content or use of your connection, including reselling, "back door" hosts, etc. You are of course required to comply with any AUPs of any networks you communicate with or through and of course any applicable laws. Compliance with this is the member's responsibility. PRICES: 56K SERVICE PRICES: One-time installation fee (non-refundable) . . . . . . $400. Monthly connection fee . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $325. T1 SERVICE PRICES: One-time installation fee (non-refundable) . . . . . . $500. Monthly connection fee . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $800. Each member must provide their own CSU/DSU pair, and a 56K or T1 capable connection to their system (such as a router). Each member must also provide a standalone router at the TLG end or pay for a fraction of a multi-port router. OTHER HIGH-SPEED SERVICE: We are more than willing to work out fair prices on other types of connections at other speeds, such as 64Kb/s ISDN, 200Kb/s radio, etc. LOW-SPEED DIAL-UP SERVICE PRICES: TLG offers modem-based full-time IP using telephone lines and dialup-type modems. Additional information is provided near the end of this datasheet. Ask for further details. One-time installation fee (non-refundable) . . . . . . $250. Monthly connection fee . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $70. The following list gives estimates of goods and services that the member must cover. (Probable telco one-time installation fees, total . . $70. (Probable monthly telco charges, total . . . . . . . . $21. (Pair of v32bis/v42bis modems, retail . . . . . . . . $400. PAYMENT DETAILS: One-time installation fees, and member-supplied hardware must be provided before TLG initiates the connection. Members are invoiced for monthly connect fees three months at a time. Net 15 days, unless otherwise arranged. Initial billing starts with the first full week following the connection completion, or three weeks from start of the installation, whichever comes latest. POSSIBLE TLG/MEMBER RESOURCE SHARING: Under certain conditions, TLG may be willing to pay for the leased line to the customer's site, and a portion of the connect fee, if TLG can install a new POP at the member's site. Depending on various factors, this could significantly lower the cost to the member for IP services. As more sites are connected to this new POP, the member housing the POP would receive a portion of each additional connection fee, effectively paying for bandwidth used. Contact information: The Little Garden PO Box 410923 San Francisco CA 94141-0923 415-487-1902 Email to ... Gets you ... info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. order-form@tlg.org New service Order Form/Questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. The same information is also available by: Anonymous FTP tlg.org World Wide Web tlg.org Associated Networks: Santa Cruz -- Santa Cruz Community Internet (scruz-net) 903 Pacific Ave. #203-A Santa Cruz, CA 95060 (408) 457-5050 info@scruz.net Santa Cruz Community Internet serves the entirety of Santa Cruz County, CA. scruz-net offers the following TCP/IP services: o medium speed 56kb and 64kb o leased line and frame relay o ISDN and centrex IS service at 64kb or 128kb o 14.4kb leased line or 14.4kb centrex o 14.4kb dial-up SLIP and PPP scruz-net offers the following application services: o news and mail forwarding o DNS registration and nameservice o FTP archive and gopher server Marin, Sonoma, and Mendocino Counties -- North Bay Network 20 Minor Court San Rafael, CA 94903 (415) 472-1600 Email: info@nbn.com Oregon, southern Washington state -- RAINet 9501 SW Westhaven Portland, OR 97225 (503) 297-8820 admin@rain.com RAINet offers the following TCP/IP services: o medium speed 56kb and 64kb o leased line and frame relay o 14.4kb leased line o 14.4kb dial-up SLIP and PPP RAINet offers the following application services: o news and mail forwarding o DNS registration and nameservice o UNIX shell accounts o POP mail accounts and POP serial dialup o dialup and PPP/SLIP gopher clients When you are in RAINet's geographic area (Oregon and Southern Washington), RAINet offers free access to customers of other RGnet consortium networks, e.g. The Little Garden. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Fri Feb 11 20:41:44 1994 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 20:41:10 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Re: Want to spend money. To: Lonhyn Jasinskyj cc: Tom Jennings In-Reply-To: <9402092035.AA21560@wps.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: THE LITTLE GARDEN -- IP SERVICES The Little Garden (TLG) is a buyers club providing Internet connectivity in the greater San Francisco Bay Area. Our prices are the cost of connectivity plus our reasonably low overhead. In exchange for these low prices, we expect members to be somewhat self-sufficient technically. Many members become involved in the operation of TLG, though this is not necessary. We have Points of Presence (POPs) in San Francisco, Mountain View and Palo Alto. We have affiliates in other regions providing similar service. We are working on extending into other areas. TLG provides high-quality, reliable basic IP connectivity via full-time SLIP or PPP, secondary Domain Name Service (DNS), and in some cases, address space. We provide you with the help necessary to get online. We don't provide shell accounts, shared, part-time IP, etc. TLG places no restrictions on content or use of your connection, including reselling, "back door" hosts, etc. You are of course required to comply with any AUPs of any networks you communicate with or through and of course any applicable laws. Compliance with this is the member's responsibility. PRICES: 56K SERVICE PRICES: One-time installation fee (non-refundable) . . . . . . $400. Monthly connection fee . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $325. T1 SERVICE PRICES: One-time installation fee (non-refundable) . . . . . . $500. Monthly connection fee . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $800. Each member must provide their own CSU/DSU pair, and a 56K or T1 capable connection to their system (such as a router). Each member must also provide a standalone router at the TLG end or pay for a fraction of a multi-port router. OTHER HIGH-SPEED SERVICE: We are more than willing to work out fair prices on other types of connections at other speeds, such as 64Kb/s ISDN, 200Kb/s radio, etc. LOW-SPEED DIAL-UP SERVICE PRICES: TLG offers modem-based full-time IP using telephone lines and dialup-type modems. Additional information is provided near the end of this datasheet. Ask for further details. One-time installation fee (non-refundable) . . . . . . $250. Monthly connection fee . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $70. The following list gives estimates of goods and services that the member must cover. (Probable telco one-time installation fees, total . . $70. (Probable monthly telco charges, total . . . . . . . . $21. (Pair of v32bis/v42bis modems, retail . . . . . . . . $400. PAYMENT DETAILS: One-time installation fees, and member-supplied hardware must be provided before TLG initiates the connection. Members are invoiced for monthly connect fees three months at a time. Net 15 days, unless otherwise arranged. Initial billing starts with the first full week following the connection completion, or three weeks from start of the installation, whichever comes latest. POSSIBLE TLG/MEMBER RESOURCE SHARING: Under certain conditions, TLG may be willing to pay for the leased line to the customer's site, and a portion of the connect fee, if TLG can install a new POP at the member's site. Depending on various factors, this could significantly lower the cost to the member for IP services. As more sites are connected to this new POP, the member housing the POP would receive a portion of each additional connection fee, effectively paying for bandwidth used. Contact information: The Little Garden PO Box 410923 San Francisco CA 94141-0923 415-487-1902 Email to ... Gets you ... info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. order-form@tlg.org New service Order Form/Questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. The same information is also available by: Anonymous FTP tlg.org World Wide Web tlg.org Associated Networks: Santa Cruz -- Santa Cruz Community Internet (scruz-net) 903 Pacific Ave. #203-A Santa Cruz, CA 95060 (408) 457-5050 info@scruz.net Santa Cruz Community Internet serves the entirety of Santa Cruz County, CA. scruz-net offers the following TCP/IP services: o medium speed 56kb and 64kb o leased line and frame relay o ISDN and centrex IS service at 64kb or 128kb o 14.4kb leased line or 14.4kb centrex o 14.4kb dial-up SLIP and PPP scruz-net offers the following application services: o news and mail forwarding o DNS registration and nameservice o FTP archive and gopher server Marin, Sonoma, and Mendocino Counties -- North Bay Network 20 Minor Court San Rafael, CA 94903 (415) 472-1600 Email: info@nbn.com Oregon, southern Washington state -- RAINet 9501 SW Westhaven Portland, OR 97225 (503) 297-8820 admin@rain.com RAINet offers the following TCP/IP services: o medium speed 56kb and 64kb o leased line and frame relay o 14.4kb leased line o 14.4kb dial-up SLIP and PPP RAINet offers the following application services: o news and mail forwarding o DNS registration and nameservice o UNIX shell accounts o POP mail accounts and POP serial dialup o dialup and PPP/SLIP gopher clients When you are in RAINet's geographic area (Oregon and Southern Washington), RAINet offers free access to customers of other RGnet consortium networks, e.g. The Little Garden. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Fri Feb 11 21:06:25 1994 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 21:04:53 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Re: Want to spend money. To: Lonhyn Jasinskyj cc: Tom Jennings In-Reply-To: <9402092035.AA21560@wps.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: THE LITTLE GARDEN -- IP SERVICES The Little Garden (TLG) is a buyers club providing Internet connectivity in the greater San Francisco Bay Area. Our prices are the cost of connectivity plus our reasonably low overhead. In exchange for these low prices, we expect members to be somewhat self-sufficient technically. Many members become involved in the operation of TLG, though this is not necessary. We have Points of Presence (POPs) in San Francisco, Mountain View and Palo Alto. We have affiliates in other regions providing similar service. We are working on extending into other areas. TLG provides high-quality, reliable basic IP connectivity via full-time SLIP or PPP, secondary Domain Name Service (DNS), and in some cases, address space. We provide you with the help necessary to get online. We don't provide shell accounts, shared, part-time IP, etc. TLG places no restrictions on content or use of your connection, including reselling, "back door" hosts, etc. You are of course required to comply with any AUPs of any networks you communicate with or through and of course any applicable laws. Compliance with this is the member's responsibility. PRICES: 56K SERVICE PRICES: One-time installation fee (non-refundable) . . . . . . $400. Monthly connection fee . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $325. T1 SERVICE PRICES: One-time installation fee (non-refundable) . . . . . . $500. Monthly connection fee . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $800. Each member must provide their own CSU/DSU pair, and a 56K or T1 capable connection to their system (such as a router). Each member must also provide a standalone router at the TLG end or pay for a fraction of a multi-port router. OTHER HIGH-SPEED SERVICE: We are more than willing to work out fair prices on other types of connections at other speeds, such as 64Kb/s ISDN, 200Kb/s radio, etc. LOW-SPEED DIAL-UP SERVICE PRICES: TLG offers modem-based full-time IP using telephone lines and dialup-type modems. Additional information is provided near the end of this datasheet. Ask for further details. One-time installation fee (non-refundable) . . . . . . $250. Monthly connection fee . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $70. The following list gives estimates of goods and services that the member must cover. (Probable telco one-time installation fees, total . . $70. (Probable monthly telco charges, total . . . . . . . . $21. (Pair of v32bis/v42bis modems, retail . . . . . . . . $400. PAYMENT DETAILS: One-time installation fees, and member-supplied hardware must be provided before TLG initiates the connection. Members are invoiced for monthly connect fees three months at a time. Net 15 days, unless otherwise arranged. Initial billing starts with the first full week following the connection completion, or three weeks from start of the installation, whichever comes latest. POSSIBLE TLG/MEMBER RESOURCE SHARING: Under certain conditions, TLG may be willing to pay for the leased line to the customer's site, and a portion of the connect fee, if TLG can install a new POP at the member's site. Depending on various factors, this could significantly lower the cost to the member for IP services. As more sites are connected to this new POP, the member housing the POP would receive a portion of each additional connection fee, effectively paying for bandwidth used. Contact information: The Little Garden PO Box 410923 San Francisco CA 94141-0923 415-487-1902 Email to ... Gets you ... info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. order-form@tlg.org New service Order Form/Questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. The same information is also available by: Anonymous FTP tlg.org World Wide Web tlg.org Associated Networks: Santa Cruz -- Santa Cruz Community Internet (scruz-net) 903 Pacific Ave. #203-A Santa Cruz, CA 95060 (408) 457-5050 info@scruz.net Santa Cruz Community Internet serves the entirety of Santa Cruz County, CA. scruz-net offers the following TCP/IP services: o medium speed 56kb and 64kb o leased line and frame relay o ISDN and centrex IS service at 64kb or 128kb o 14.4kb leased line or 14.4kb centrex o 14.4kb dial-up SLIP and PPP scruz-net offers the following application services: o news and mail forwarding o DNS registration and nameservice o FTP archive and gopher server Marin, Sonoma, and Mendocino Counties -- North Bay Network 20 Minor Court San Rafael, CA 94903 (415) 472-1600 Email: info@nbn.com Oregon, southern Washington state -- RAINet 9501 SW Westhaven Portland, OR 97225 (503) 297-8820 admin@rain.com RAINet offers the following TCP/IP services: o medium speed 56kb and 64kb o leased line and frame relay o 14.4kb leased line o 14.4kb dial-up SLIP and PPP RAINet offers the following application services: o news and mail forwarding o DNS registration and nameservice o UNIX shell accounts o POP mail accounts and POP serial dialup o dialup and PPP/SLIP gopher clients When you are in RAINet's geographic area (Oregon and Southern Washington), RAINet offers free access to customers of other RGnet consortium networks, e.g. The Little Garden. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Sat Feb 12 18:01:23 1994 Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 18:00:14 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: low cost keyboards (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 12 Feb 94 10:00:03 -0800 From: Godzilla's Home Boy To: admin@tlg.org Subject: low cost keyboards Hi Tom, I do volunteer work at computers and You. They have keyboards, monitors, etc. stacked up to the rafters that they can't get rid of. I didn't tell you this, because they sell stuff on the qt. If you find out through taking a tour, then you can make arrangements to buy stuff. Go figure the reasons. email me if you want to prove your moral worth, and get a tour. Donald Wilton If this guy is doing any vga/svga monitors at obsenly low prices, tell him I'm interested. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Tue Feb 22 22:42:50 1994 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 22:41:33 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Re: If a human reads this... To: George JP Perry In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 22 Feb 1994, George JP Perry wrote: > ... what I think that I really want is information on wps.com, but your > service is the reference that I get when I invoke "whois wps.com"... in > fact, the reference that I got was to admin@tlg.net, and I'm kinda' > puzzled that "whois" returned an address that may be no longer in use. > Anyway, this messages and all others derived from a slip of paper reading > "flesh@wps.com". But I'll pay careful attention to the auto-reply that > I'm confident that this message will provoke. With thanks for your patience. I'm really suprised at you. All the conversations that we used to have on Lies Unlimited, and you really don't remember whom I am? I'm really shocked. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Tue Feb 22 22:54:11 1994 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 22:53:39 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: test To: info@tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: testing From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Tue Feb 22 22:57:48 1994 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 22:57:01 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: The Little Garden -- Basic Info To: gorgon@crl.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 22:54:17 -0800 From:Info@tlg.org Subject: The Little Garden -- Basic Info This message is an automatic response to your request for information on The Little Garden (TLG). Your message was forwarded to a human as well, so if you asked any specific questions they'll get answered shortly. Email to ... Gets you ... info@tlg.org This brochure and basic info. modem-faq@tlg.org Modem-based Frequently Asked Questions. ll-faq@tlg.org Leased-line 56K/T1 Frequently Asked Questions. order-form@tlg.org New service Order Form/Questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. The same information is also available by: Anonymous FTP tlg.org World Wide Web tlg.org Signed, Admin@tlg.org THE LITTLE GARDEN -- IP SERVICES 18 Feb 94 The Little Garden (TLG) is a buyers club providing Internet connectivity in the greater San Francisco Bay Area. Our prices are the cost of connectivity plus our reasonably low overhead. In exchange for these low prices, we expect members to be somewhat self-sufficient technically. Many members become involved in the operation of TLG, though this is not necessary. We have Points of Presence (POPs) in San Francisco, Mountain View and Palo Alto. We have affiliates in other regions providing similar service. We are working on extending into other areas. TLG provides high-quality, reliable basic IP connectivity via full-time SLIP or PPP, secondary Domain Name Service (DNS), and in some cases, address space. We provide you with the help necessary to get online. We don't provide shell accounts, shared, part-time IP, etc. TLG places no restrictions on content or use of your connection, including reselling, "back door" hosts, etc. You are of course required to comply with any AUPs of any networks you communicate with or through and of course any applicable laws. Compliance with this is the member's responsibility. PRICES: 18 FEB 94 56K SERVICE PRICES: One-time installation fee (non-refundable) . . . . . $1500. Monthly connection fee . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $325. T1 SERVICE PRICES: One-time installation fee (non-refundable) . . . . . $1600. Monthly connection fee . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $800. Each member must provide their own CSU/DSU pair; TLG can help you with choices. The Installation Fee includes all other equipment on the TLG-end of the connection. OTHER HIGH-SPEED SERVICE: We are more than willing to work out fair prices on other types of member-provided connections, such as 64Kb/s ISDN, 200Kb/s radio, etc. LOW-SPEED DIAL-UP SERVICE PRICES: NEW 18 FEB 94 TLG offers modem-based full-time IP using telephone lines and dialup-type modems. Additional information is provided near the end of this datasheet. Ask for further details. One-time installation fee (non-refundable) . . . . . . $350. Monthly connection fee . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $70. The following list gives estimates of goods and services that the member must cover. (Probable telco one-time installation fees, total . . $70. (Probable monthly telco charges, total . . . . . . . . $21. (Pair of v32bis/v42bis modems, retail . . . . . . . . $400. PAYMENT DETAILS: One-time installation fees, and member-supplied hardware must be provided before TLG initiates the connection. Members are invoiced for monthly connect fees three months at a time. Net 15 days, unless otherwise arranged. Initial billing starts with the first full week following the connection completion, or three weeks from start of the installation, whichever comes latest. POSSIBLE TLG/MEMBER RESOURCE SHARING: Under certain conditions, TLG may be willing to pay for the leased line to the customer's site, and a portion of the connect fee, if TLG can install a new POP at the member's site. Depending on various factors, this could significantly lower the cost to the member for IP services. As more sites are connected to this new POP, the member housing the POP would receive a portion of each additional connection fee, effectively paying for bandwidth used. Contact information: The Little Garden PO Box 410923 San Francisco CA 94141-0923 415-487-1902 Email to ... Gets you ... info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. order-form@tlg.org New service Order Form/Questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. The same information is also available by: Anonymous FTP tlg.org World Wide Web tlg.org Associated Networks: Santa Cruz -- Santa Cruz Community Internet (scruz-net) 903 Pacific Ave. #203-A Santa Cruz, CA 95060 (408) 457-5050 info@scruz.net Santa Cruz Community Internet serves the entirety of Santa Cruz County, CA. scruz-net offers the following TCP/IP services: o medium speed 56kb and 64kb o leased line and frame relay o ISDN and centrex IS service at 64kb or 128kb o 14.4kb leased line or 14.4kb centrex o 14.4kb dial-up SLIP and PPP scruz-net offers the following application services: o news and mail forwarding o DNS registration and nameservice o FTP archive and gopher server Marin, Sonoma, and Mendocino Counties -- North Bay Network 20 Minor Court San Rafael, CA 94903 (415) 472-1600 Email: info@nbn.com Oregon, southern Washington state -- RAINet 9501 SW Westhaven Portland, OR 97225 (503) 297-8820 admin@rain.com RAINet offers the following TCP/IP services: o medium speed 56kb and 64kb o leased line and frame relay o 14.4kb leased line o 14.4kb dial-up SLIP and PPP RAINet offers the following application services: o news and mail forwarding o DNS registration and nameservice o UNIX shell accounts o POP mail accounts and POP serial dialup o dialup and PPP/SLIP gopher clients When you are in RAINet's geographic area (Oregon and Southern Washington), RAINet offers free access to customers of other RGnet consortium networks, e.g. The Little Garden. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Mon Mar 7 18:10:09 1994 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 18:09:55 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: What MTU should I employ? (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 13 Feb 94 13:31:06 -0500 From:uworld!tventure!beccat@uunet.uu.net To: info@tlg.org Subject: What MTU should I employ? TLG: What MTU should I compile into my CSLIP software for communicating with TLG? Thanks for your help with this question, -- Becca Thomas E-MAIL: beccat@uworld.com (Domain address) uunet!tventure!beccat (UUCP route) From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Mon Mar 7 18:10:51 1994 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 18:10:32 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Livingston IP dialup router for sale on the net (fwd) To: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 13 Feb 94 13:31:05 -0500 From:uworld!tventure!beccat@uunet.uu.net To: info@tlg.org Subject: Livingston IP dialup router for sale on the net TWIMC: Here's an item that might interest you guys at TLG. -- Becca Thomas E-MAIL: beccat@uworld.com (Domain address) uunet!tventure!beccat (UUCP route) ========================================================================= >From westes@netcom.com Sun Feb 13 07:58:29 PST 1994 Article: 6186 of ba.market.computers Xref: tventure comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc:3188 misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone:35533 ba.market.computers:6186 Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc,misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone,ba.market.computers Path: tventure!uunet!news.moneng.mei.com!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!netcomsv!netcom.com!westes From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) Subject: Portmaster-11 Livingston dialup router for sale Message-ID: Organization: Mail Group X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 22:12:38 GMT Lines: 7 I have a 10-port Livingston IP dialup router for sale. This is a lightly used Portmaster-11. This is the older model that does a max of 38.4Kbps on a line. It supports dialup SLIP or PPP. It cannot be used with V.FAST. Make offer. -- Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com ========================================================================= From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Mon Mar 7 18:53:03 1994 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 18:52:19 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Re: TLG Setting up affiliate networks (fwd) To: Tom Jennings cc: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 01:06:00 -0800 From: Number 6 To: info@tlg.org Subject: Re: TLG Setting up affiliate networks I saw your server on the Web and I am quite interested in possibly becoming an affiliate network. I currently receive my service through PSI and have become terribly dissatisfied with them for a number of reasons. (Poor service is a primary one). I am a technically competent sysadmin and rarely call on PSI for support - only when they are down! The communities I would like to serve (and could easily) include: Santa Barbara County: Lompoc, Santa Barbara, Santa Maria San Luis Obispo County: Atascadero, Paso Robles, Arroyo Grande, San Luis Obispo, Cambria and Pismo/Grover Beach My company has offices in each of those locations with an already connected backbone among most of the offices. I already have domain registration and would prefer to keep my current registration, if possible. If not, then I would continue to run two Internet connections, one through ".org" (yours, I would guess) and one through my current domain. At our rate of expansion, we currently do need our class B assignment (up from two subnets two years ago to 15 now, with six to be added in the next two months). I would also like to know what *your* connection to the Net is. Can we expect, if we purchase a T1, full T1 at all times? Or are all of your T1's put together at a central hub with just one T1 to the net as a whole at the hub? Most of our traffic is currently intra-net, or internal business use, with little outside traffic (except a news feed), but we expect this to change, especially if we provide POP services for you. If it is not too much of a problem, I'd appreciate an answer soon. The timing is critical, as I have a PSI salesman calling me every other day asking me when I'm going to buy a T1 from them! (To replace our current 56K). Thank you for any information. *********************************************************************** Nathan D. Lane, VP Triicon Systems. Lompoc, CA (805) 733-1849 NaN != 6, 6 == 1. I am not a number, I am a free list! I'm a programmer - my computers are more valuable than my cars. *********************************************************************** From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Mon Mar 7 18:56:06 1994 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 18:54:06 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Re: Packet Radio Internet Link To: Tim Pozar In-Reply-To: <199402201945.LAA03724@tlg.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > Tis possible. I do know of a Packet Radio/Internet link running our of > Palo Alto on 145.75MHz. 2 meters is not a frequency you can hit globally. > You need to use HF gear. > > Of course you cannot pass "commercial" traffic over these links as they > are amatuer radio links. I don't know of a radio service that you could > used to pass commercial traffic to the Internet over long distances. There > is work for localized, FCC Part 15 radio links. There is also the option > of using a satilite linked telephone on your boat and doing a "dial-up" > connecion to a provider like the Well. In regards to this, A freind of mine has been working on computer/radio transmissions for a while also. If you'd like to hook up with him, let me knowand I'll give you the appropriate info. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Mon Mar 7 19:00:02 1994 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 18:59:48 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Help request (fwd) To: Tom Jennings cc: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 18:38:55 -0700 (MST) From: Lloyd Brodsky To: info@tlg.org Subject: Help request I've heard great things about you guys -- I've got an interest in doing something similar in the Mountain West -- is there anybody I could chat with about the details? I've got an 800 number which you're welcome to use (800-864-3111) * Lloyd Brodsky, Phd Internet: lbrodsky@rocksolid.com * * P.O. Box 101804 Voice: 303-758-7030 Fax: 303-758-7277 * * Denver, Colorado 80250-1804, USA * From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Mon Mar 7 19:00:43 1994 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 19:00:29 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: More Info (fwd) To: Tom Jennings cc: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 20 Feb 94 18:22:30 PST From:mpauly@cup.portal.com To: info@tlg.org Subject: More Info I would like further information on dial-up SLIP or PPP connections in Palo Alto. I understand you have a POP here. Could I have an individual dial-up connection using it? If so, pls give me full details. Thank you. Mary Pauly mpauly@cup.portal.com From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Mon Mar 7 19:02:43 1994 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 19:01:08 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Please... (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I don't know if you've gotten anything from him as of yet. I know him both in person, as well as when I was co-sysop at Lies Unlimited. I did get him the information that he requested. Just thought I'd let you know. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 15:01:26 -0800 (PST) From: George JP Perry To: info@tlg.org Subject: Please... ... send me information about your services. flesh@wps.com suggested that it would be good for me, and I remember Tom Jennings from his having brought forth Fido and managed ch@os. I've sent a message to admin@tlg.net, but I'm not sure if it got to you. I've still only a few dozen hours with this account on CRL, and only a few score minutes on-line... On the other hand, everything may be in order, and you all might be celebrating Washington's Birthday. So, happy birthday, George... !Christ, ?what the *Hell* happened to us... Regards. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Mon Mar 7 19:05:01 1994 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 19:03:46 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Re: If a human reads this... To: George JP Perry In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 24 Feb 1994, George JP Perry wrote: > In fact, I do remember you. I didn't recongnise you @ leathertongue 'till > you passed me your address, but it was my recollection of our exchanges on > Lies, in part, that prompted me to acquire (finally) access to the > internet and to try to contact you. > ... I sent a message to you: flesh@wps.com, but maybe that address is > defunct. ... I remember Tom Jennings from his hosting ch@os BBS, and from > his having brought Fido to the world. > ... I'm still so lame on the net; I figure that a good way to > get under way is as a fellow-traveler of journeymen... and that the two of > you "reside" on the same facility, I propose to gain experience with your > help. > ... I've a meeting in the City (in the Richmond) mid-afternoon > Sunday; perhaps in the morning or late afternoon you'll meet with me. If > you would, and would prefer to meet away from computers; then please pick > a place & time, gimme' directions, an' I'll try to be there. ... with > apologies for my shocking behaviour... jv Sorry for the delay. I've just moved, and have been atterly swamped in trying to keep up with several projects all at once, and move at the same time. Sometime in the next couple of weeks would be fine. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Mon Mar 7 19:05:44 1994 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 19:05:24 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: please check and correct (if any0 **BY PHONE ONLY**!! please (fwd) To: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 2 Mar 94 17:52:27 PST From: Jim Warren To: info@tlg.org, mark@path.net, pozar@kumr.lns.com, wslocum@delphi.com Subject: please check and correct (if any0 **BY PHONE ONLY**!! please This is an email copy of what I have already faxed, earlier today. --jim to: Warren Slocum [also by email] Dorothy Yetter Tom Huening Ruben Barrales Mark Graham [also by email] Tim Pozar [via KKSF-KDFC fax; also by email] The Little Garden [by email, only] re: San Mateo County to provide online information via their own Internet host-computer checking a planned public announcement Hi all - The following is part of an announcement that is about to receive wide distribution - and I want to make sure its contents are accurate and appropriate. As some of you know, I maintain an online distirbution-list regarding computer-assisted government-access called "GovAccess." It currently circulates via the global Internet to over 750 electronic addresses - including about 150 public-press and trade-press reporters and about two dozen mail-reflectors and online newsletters that, in turn, copy incoming GovAccess messages to every one of their hundreds or thousands of recipients. (GovAccess is the network distribution-list that is the follow-on to the successful 1993 net-assisted advocacy of AB1624, that made California the first state in the nation to provide almost-all public state legislative information and statutes and state constitution for timely, online, global public access, without charges by the state.) If there are errors, corrections, additions or preferences regarding the following items, please phone now - 415-851-7075 or -7610 (daze or eves). I expect to transmit this tonight or tommorrow. Thank ye kindly. /s/ Jim Warren . . . SAN MATEO COUNTY (CALIF.) COMING ON THE INTERNET IN MARCH; ONE OF THE FIRST?? The ~700,000-population county that is sandwiched between famous San Francisco City & County and famous Santa "Silicon Valley" Clara County -- San Mateo County -- *may* be the first, or one of the first counties in the 32-million-population state and/or perhaps even the nation, to have a public- info host of their own on the Internet, expected to be live by mid-March. (Yes, I'll post details to GovAccess when details are public.) Their computer's already purchased. Mark Graham's Pandora Systems (mark@path.net; 415-346-4188) and Tim Pozar's Late Night Software (pozar@kumr.lns.com) are consulting on and assisting in completing the installation. The Internet connection is through The Little Garden (TLG) -- the super-neat "buyer's club" providing hyper-low-cost host-connections to the Internet, with points-of-presence (POPs) in San Francisco, Palo Alto and Mountain View and growing fast (info@tlg.org; 415-487-1902). The departments initially planning on using it include (1) the Registrar of Voters, the Department of Health Services and the County Board of Supervisors. The folks to especially applaud for this include County Clerk/Recorder/ Registrar/Assessor/Collector Warren Slocum (415-363-4988) [though he keeps wanting to blame me for it :-) ] and County Chief Information Officer Dorothy Yetter (415-363-7800). Also, Board of Supes Prexy Tom Huening and fellow Supe. Ruben Barrales are both known to be actively supporting the project (415-363-4653). &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& WHO'S ON FIRST? - A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION Are there other counties with their own host-computer(s) on the Internet to provide access to county information, and/or receive email communications from their citizens, and/or offer other net-based community-support services? Please provide contact specifics. The exploding number of civic-nets containing local-government information and online forums, run by public-interest groups or civic-minded citizens. And there are numerous stand-alone BBS's (computer bulletin-board systems) run by local agencies. But these ain't the same thing. Non-agency civnets are not under the public's control - not even indirectly, as are agency-operated systems. And BBSs are neat, cheap and often have a *far* more congenial user-interface, e.g. using First Class BBS software like Robert Kim's City Connection system in San Jose CA (rkim@skipper.cityconnect.com; 408-272-4185). But they also limit access to those who (1) are geographically nearby (2) can afford humongous long-distance dial-up charges whenever they dare to be un-local, (3) want little information, rarely, or (4) can accept access- delays that may be *days* long [gasp!] for info by Fidonet email. [Don't po-po multi-day delays in delivery of local-agency information. Elected and appointed decision-making bodies often publish their agendas and supporting reports only a few days before they hold hearings and vote on crucial decisions. *Timely* access to complete public information is an *essential* prerequisite to effective public participation in community governance. --- I want more. More. MORE! - AND WILL SHARE IT ALL, RIGHT HYAR Above question sought *counties* with their own Internet hosts. How about *cities* and other *local* agencies? How about *state* agencies that run their own Internet hosts to provide public info access or other services to the public? How about non-academic public libraries - general, legal, medical, etc.? --- I will echo or compile-and-echo the responses, in later GovAccess postings. &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Wallowing in the luxury of writing about neat-stuff, rather than doin' my duty as endless email slave - I'm jus' plain ol' --jim Jim Warren, columnist for MicroTimes, Government Technology, BoardWatch, etc. 345 Swett Rd., Woodside CA 94062; voice/415-851-7075; fax/415-851-2814 >> To join the GovAccess list, email a request to jwarren@well.sf.ca.us .<< >> Permission herewith granted for unlimited reposting and recirculation.<< From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Mon Mar 7 19:06:43 1994 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 19:06:32 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: LA area Internet co-op info wanted (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 05:36:21 -0800 From: Robert McMillin To: info@scruz.net, info@tlg.org Subject: LA area Internet co-op info wanted I'm interested in starting up a Los Angeles area Internet cooperative. If you can help with any info, it'd be most appreciated. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Mon Mar 7 19:08:02 1994 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 19:07:49 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: cyberspace/Humanities (fwd) To: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 12:07:38 -0800 (PST) From: Arthur Chandler To: info@tlg.org Subject: cyberspace/Humanities Greetings! I'm Professor Arthur Chandler, and this semester I'm teaching a class at San Francisco State University entitled "cyberspace/Humanities," which explores the inter-relationships between the NET and the traditional humanities (society, ideas and the arts). I met some of your folks at the last cypherpunks meeting, where I gave a brief talk about MOOs in general, and BayMOO in particular. I was wondering if anybody from your group might be interested in coming to a session of our class to talk about Internet access. There is a strong feeling among many students that the NET, for all its promises of virtual democracy, will wind up bequeathing more power to those who already have it, and leave "the people" (small p) unempowered and on the outside looking in. Would any of your folks be willing to come out to campus on a Thursday evening to talk about what The Little Garden is about, and how (if at all) you're addressing these issues (and any other issues you'd care to talk about)? From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Mon Mar 7 19:11:04 1994 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 19:09:01 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Re: anyone home? To: Andrew Waegel In-Reply-To: <9403042039.AA09530@wired.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 4 Mar 1994, Andrew Waegel wrote: > Reply to: anyone home? > > Hi, i don't know if anyone reads this, but this is andrew from Wired. We're > wondering what the hispeed port situation is like at 444 Market st; is there > room for a new T1 connection or do we need to get a new router for your end? > Thanks- > ...Andrew Hi Just thought I'd let you know, that when you send mail to info@tlg.com, it generates the order form. To reach an actual human, email admin@tlg.org. Just so you know. I forwarded this to the admin. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Mon Mar 7 19:11:22 1994 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 19:11:11 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: anyone home? (fwd) To: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 4 Mar 1994 12:41:49 -0800 From: Andrew Waegel To: tlg info Subject: anyone home? Reply to: anyone home? Hi, i don't know if anyone reads this, but this is andrew from Wired. We're wondering what the hispeed port situation is like at 444 Market st; is there room for a new T1 connection or do we need to get a new router for your end? Thanks- ...Andrew ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by qm.wired.com with SMTP;4 Mar 1994 12:40:26 -0800 Received: from qm.wired.com by gw.wired.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA09294; Fri, 4 Mar 94 12:33:45 -0800 Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 12:33:45 -0800 From: MAILER-DAEMON@wired.com (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown Message-Id: <9403042033.AA09294@wired.com> To: From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Mon Mar 7 19:11:59 1994 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 19:11:45 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Internet connection? (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 12:48:14 -0800 From: Corwin Nichols To: info@tlg.org Subject: Internet connection? Please reply to this account with any relevant info regarding internet access services which you may render. I am looking for an inexpensive way to get my company onto the net via dial-up IP. We have a small network of PCs and a Sun Sparcstaion for a gateway. I've talked to Netcom and InterNix(sp?) about this and the costs are just too high. They want about $1200 start-up and $160/mo. for the service. Thanks, Corwin From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Mon Mar 7 19:13:29 1994 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 19:13:18 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: news (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 15:06:10 -0800 From: Jesse Montrose To: info@tlg.org Subject: news Hi there, I'm planning a move in a few months to south of market, and I'm seriously considering a connection with you folks. I'm curious about usenet, would I be able to access the full list of groups? Not that I'd want them all, of course, but I'd like to be able to pick the ones I would want.. My initial goal is to run a small server for half a dozen friends that would use mostly email, news, and the occasional ftp. I plan to start with a v.fast and move to 56k sometime in the future when needed.. Much thanks, Jesse From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Mon Mar 7 19:15:51 1994 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 19:15:30 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: dig this!!!!!!!!!!!!INFO (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 12:04:47 -0800 (PST) From: Bizhan Binesh To: info@tlg.org Subject: INFO I am plannig to setup a First Class based network. It will be accessible thru an X.25 link. I also would like to provide a local phone number throughout the USA for the subscribers. Can you help with this kind of arrangement? If not, can you put me in touch with another provider who can help. Thanks. Bizhan Binesh bizhan@netcom.COM Netcom - Online Communication Services San Jose, CA From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Mon Mar 7 19:17:44 1994 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 19:17:08 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Re: new pricing request To: Bill Woodcock In-Reply-To: <9403072208.AA00989@zocalo.zocalo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 7 Mar 1994, Bill Woodcock wrote: > If a human ends up reading this, please send me the new pricing. The new pricing should be in the new docs. Thanks for your interest! From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Mon Mar 7 19:18:57 1994 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 19:18:46 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Direct Connection class (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 17:37:32 -0500 (EST) From: Tyler Johnson To: info@tlg.org Subject: Direct Connection class I just called Climate to make a reservation for the DIRECT CONNECTION class and learned it has been canceled. Oh well, guess I'll have to go skiing instead. I remain very interested in taking the class. Please notify me when you reschedule. Thanks Tyler Johnson thj@world.std.com From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Mon Mar 7 22:30:29 1994 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 22:29:01 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: w00f! To: cs000rrs@selway.umt.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: It's really cool to be on the cutting edge. Did you see our ad in the new issue of Wired? Coming soon: Pigdog: the last lost weekend- Part 4. -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 9 18:23:03 1994 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 18:17:40 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Re: w00f! To: Ryan Snyder--Consultant In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > > > Coming soon: Pigdog: the last lost weekend- Part 4. IT's coming in the next couple of weeks. I already let my editor know of it. "Tim, be prepared in the next couple of weeks for something." "For what?" Something." What? "How the fuck should I know. Strange craziness. That's the best I can say" "Any ideas as to what?" "If I knew, I'd tell you know, wouldn't I?" "Good point. A party perhaps?" "Maybe. All I know, is it's going to be CRAZY." "Interesting." "I do know that it will be EVIL." "Uh oh." From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 9 18:40:15 1994 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 18:27:17 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Re: your mail To: Mark Ratledge In-Reply-To: <9403090418.AA15977@selway.umt.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: This is really fucking wierd. The sig SHOULD be at the bottom of the scren, not at the top.... Oh well.... -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. On Tue, 8 Mar 1994, Mark Ratledge wrote: > > Hey, kill them commies.....thats a laugh. ole ranger is probably up from the bi > tterroot valley south of town here, where he probably lives > in between a member of the posse comitatus (sp?) and the radical mormon settleme > nt. Down the street are the loggers and the regular white trash with "We suppor > t the timber industry" signs in their windows. Actually, he lives in Missoula. You can find out all his personal info, by firing up the student directory, on gopher. Type in his alias, and you'll get two addresses. The jerome one is his... The possee comitatus eh? Never thought I'd see the day when they'd be around in missoula. Be very careful of those fuckers. They are not above making people "disappear" > Suppoed to be a lot of ex spooks in the valley, green berets,etc. And now even > the sherriff of the county has gotten into the act by saying that he won't > enforce the brady law. (not that I think the law will make much difference.) Considering the large population of white supremists, it doesn't suprise me. Ever see 'Blood in the face'? A lot of the interviewees are living in the valley/missoula area. > If you ever call cyber psychosis (sp) here in missoula, be ready for a > suprise. I can't afford to call every bbs in Missoula. However, if you could do me a favor. Login as me (fuck 0wen$, nat) and get me a blue wave packet. I'll do the same for you here, for whatever board you want. Send the bw packet to me. ttyl BTW, reply to this via wps.com tlg.org is my work node. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 9 18:41:13 1994 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 18:40:36 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: SLIP/PPP connection (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Why is this sig showing up at the top of the screen? Hmmmmmmmm. -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 8 Mar 94 20:55:17 PST From: Bill Newlin To: info@tlg.org Subject: SLIP/PPP connection Greetings, J. Matisse Enzer recommended you as a possible provider of a SLIP/PPP connection, en route to establishing a modest gopher server. Could you send me some information at fax (510)843-5567 or telephone me during the day at (510)843-1147? Thanks. Bill Newlin From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 9 18:44:14 1994 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 18:43:18 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Re: purchasing services To: James Nemerovski cc: admin@fnord.tlg.org In-Reply-To: <9403092014.AA07630@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: >I email someone a week ago, with no response. Who did you email? -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 9 18:45:38 1994 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 18:45:19 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Info needed to become a provider (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 11:08:33 -0800 From: Walt Perko To: info@tlg.org Subject: Info needed to become a provider Hi, I am looking to become a provider via my home BBS and for myself. So I need to learn a little bit more about connecting to the Internet BackBone. Per PacBell, I don't have ISDN until 2d quarter '95 and so I guess I'd really have to go with a T1 line. I heard about the seminar to explain more details and that it is cancelled. If this seminar becomes available again, I want to go and clear-up the foggy areas of my understanding. Thanks, l8r, Walt Perko = wperko@netcom.com From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 9 18:46:47 1994 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 18:46:04 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: 2 quick questions (fwd) To: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 09 Mar 94 14:11:19 EST From: Christopher O'Brien To: info@tlg.org Subject: 2 quick questions Hi! I saw your ad in WIRED 2.03 and I was wondering if you could help me. First, do you know of any services similar to yours available in the New York City area? Second, if I had a T1 Internet connection and I wanted to parcel out its usage to users dialing in over POTS (and assuming I had the equipment to do so) how many users could I practically accomodate? (You have no idea how hard it is to look up things like this..) Thanks! :-) Chris O. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 9 18:48:49 1994 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 18:48:30 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: ARA Access via Internet (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 09 Mar 94 05:04:27 EST From:petef@aol.com To: info@tlg.org Subject: ARA Access via Internet I am doing work for a company that would like to allow its employees and contractors a way to access its Macintosh servers via AppleTalk Remote Access via the Internet Is this possible using your service and what are the costs? Also what are the security issues involved? I appreciate any info you can provide me with. Thank you very much, Peter Fierlinger petef@aol.com From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 9 18:50:12 1994 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 18:49:32 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Look who's requesting Info (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 00:07:08 -0800 From: MONDO 2000 / Wes Thomas To: info@tlg.org Subject: Info Pls send info on TLG services. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 9 18:52:04 1994 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 18:51:18 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: General info request (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Should I send him a reply, saying it was due to sprintnet problems? -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 11:31:48 -0800 (PST) From: Zero Hopkins To: info@tlg.org Subject: General info request I'm trying to get some basic information on setting up an Internet node using your services. I was trying to go through FTP, but, for some reason or another, I can't make the connection... Thanks, // Zero From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 9 18:53:21 1994 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 18:53:02 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: possibilities (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 9 Mar 94 15:13 MST From: Jonathan Dasteel To: admin@tlg.org Subject: possibilities I am setting as an internet reseller here in Durango, CO. Durango is east of the four corners, and about as topologically and physically remote from the net as you can get in the contiguous US. Having exhausted all other possibilities, I have been arranging for a lease line (via WilTel and US West) to CIX in Santa Clara. I saw a blurb about you folks, and it occurred to me that we might have possibilities for a mutually beneficial arrangement. Please give me a call. -- JBD PS: The new reseller is ``DurangoNet, Inc.'' a Colorado corporation. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathan Dasteel Snail-mail: (303) 385-6744 Dasteel Software (303) 385-6745 (Facsimile) 777 Main Avenue, Suite 201 jbd@dasteel.com (Internet) Durango, Colorado 81301 {csn,uunet}!dasteel!jbd (UUCP) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GCS/B/T/AT d---(--) p-- c++() l++(+++) u++ e(*) m* s/+ -n+ h---(--) f*(?) g-(+) w+ t r- y? (aren't you glad you asked?) From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Thu Mar 10 19:54:18 1994 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 19:53:56 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Internet Connections (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 9 Mar 94 20:53 PST From: Dusty Deryck To: info@tlg.org Subject: Internet Connections I happened to see one of your cards in a friend's office. Please send me more information on your services. Do you provide full services? Telnet, ftp, WWW, wais, archie, gopher, SLIP, ppp others? What does the $250 setup cover? Iscd\pctools pctools win win defrag c....ooops, don't know what caused that! But, to continue, how does one connect dial up? I am in the (916) area code. Will there be a local or an 800 number? Please respond by e-mail or fax to (916) 626-7850. dusty@spider.lloyd. com Thanks in advance. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Thu Mar 10 19:58:03 1994 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 19:57:30 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Re: The Little Garden -- Basic Info (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 10 Mar 94 11:10 PST From: Dusty Deryck To: Info@tlg.org Subject: Re: The Little Garden -- Basic Info Thanks for the quick response. Follow-up: For dial-up, why TWO modems? Doesn't the host have a modem, and are not modern high speed modems of different types able to communicate with each other? My 14400FX by Prac Peripherals works great with many BBS and others, including the service I now call for Internet connect. Second, What is CSU/DSU. I hope you will pardon my ignorance. I am somewhat technically up...as you see, I use the net...but a lot of the jargon throws me, like CSU/DSU. Hope to hear from you. Prices seem reasonable...except that it appears I would have to use long distance or install lease line (in this remote, rural area that is big bucks). I do not understand the difference between dialup clients and SLIP or PPP clients. Can you explain? I will be appreciative. I hope your service succeeds and the Internet is able to compete better than ISDN will be able to. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Thu Mar 10 19:59:33 1994 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 19:58:11 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Re: The Little Garden -- Basic Info To: Dusty Deryck In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Recieved yout email. Just to clear up any confusion, any questions that need to be answered in person should be sent to admin@tlg.org. I forwarded your mail, so you should recieve a response shortly. Thanks for your interest! -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Thu Mar 10 20:00:31 1994 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 19:59:57 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Wired Magazine (fwd) To: Tom Jennings cc: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 10 Mar 94 19:31:43 UT From: Lynna S Oshita To: The Little Garden Subject: Wired Magazine Tom, My name is Lynna Oshita, and I work at Pacific Bell. I am currently working with Andrew from Wired Magazine to connect his office with the Little Garden. He has requested an ADN T1 service. Please clarify what you mean by an ADN T1. Do you want ADN services running over a T1 or do you want a T1 pipe. I'm also working with Peter Shipley to connect his business with you as well. I'd like to meet with you to see if we can work together on setting up your customer's network into your location. Please respond to this e-mail or call me at (415) 542-0927. lynna [PC CONNECTION 20:123456789:44071] From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Thu Mar 10 20:02:49 1994 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 20:01:13 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Re: Wired Magazine To: Lynna S Oshita In-Reply-To: <"0101382396233278"*@x400-gate.PBConnect.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Recieved your mail that you sent to info@tlg.org I handle that end of the spectrum here at tlg. Just so you know, questions that aren't covered in any of the FAQs, and brochures should be directed to admin@tlg.org. You mail was forwarded, and you should recieve a reply shortly. -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Fri Mar 11 18:42:43 1994 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 18:42:13 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Net connections? (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 16:42:11 -0700 From: Kevin Rogers Coke - UnixOps To: info@tlg.org Cc: coke@refuge.Colorado.EDU Subject: Net connections? Hello, I am moving from Boulder Colorado out to the San Francisco area, I would like to find out about getting a connection to an annex or something that will allow me to telnet out to the world. The questions how much will this cost( set up and monthly maintenance)? What is the process for getting this service? Let me know about your prices and services, Any help is greatly Appreciated, Kevin Coke UnixOps Wiring/Systems Administration University of Colorado -- Boulder From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Fri Mar 11 18:43:32 1994 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 18:42:55 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Connect Midwest (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 17:45:03 -0600 (CST) From: Daniel Taylor To: info@tlg.org Subject: Connect Midwest I represent a budding partnership in the Minneapolis,MN area dedicated to providing affordable Internet access to the individuals in this area. We are interested in acquiring a full time nodal connection at a minimum of 56kbs and noted that you do not yet have a presence in the midwest. Since the Twin Cities is one of the largest computer markets in the US, we would like information on connection opportunities with your organization. If you would be unable to provide this service, perhaps you could recommend a local service (other than MRN,CIC, and MN SuperComp center) or an e-mail address to a higher node level? Dan Taylor From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Fri Mar 11 18:44:21 1994 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 18:43:50 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: San Jose (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 15:06:51 PST From: Mark Papamarcos To: info@tlg.org Subject: San Jose Do you or any affiliates provide local access in the San Jose area? I live in the Evergreen area of San Jose (east side). Mark Papamarcos EDA Associates (emailing from a client's machine for the time being...) From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Tue Mar 22 22:02:08 1994 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 22:01:27 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Re: Failed attempt To: Dave Perkovich In-Reply-To: <2D875030@casm_batch.pacbell.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hell. I'm just verifying that you recieved the information that you requested. If you haven't I will be glad to send it to you. -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Tue Mar 22 22:02:52 1994 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 22:02:31 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Little Garden (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 14:31:15 +0000 From: Bill Seitz To: garden Subject: Little Garden I'm very interested in whether you have a NYC-area affiliate, and how your group works..... SSS CCC PPPP Bill Seitz (bill_seitz@scp.com) S C P P Manager, Electronic Medical Information SSS C PPPP 134 W. 29th St., 4th floor S C P New York, NY 10001 SSS CCC P 212/714-1740; 212/629-3760 fax Communications, Inc. (opinions are my own) From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Tue Mar 22 22:03:52 1994 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 22:03:30 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Info (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 12:29:17 -0800 From: Russ White To: info@tlg.org Subject: Info [This message is converted from WPS-PLUS to ASCII] Mike, AA9IL writes: >>Has anyone in QRP netland worked with the QRP version of the Scout? >>I'm debating as to whether to buy the Scout or go all out and get >>the Argonaut II. I have a Scout and have used it often for QRP. However, I need to correct what are apparently some common mis-conceptions about the Scout. First, it was NOT designed as a QRP rig. Rather, it was designed as a low cost, 50 watt, primarily mobile radio (therefore the plug-in modules). Second, there is no QRP version of the radio. however, there is an access hole in the bottom of the rig which allows you to turn down the power out using a plastic screwdriver. Not a quick operation, but again, that wasn't the real intent of the radio. With that said, I LIKE the Scout a lot. I've used it both mobile and at home, full power and QRP, SSB and CW. I think the receiver is quite good (not as good as my OMNI V, but still quite good). I've gotten excellent audio reports at all power levels. It's small. Relatively lightweight. Current draw is "acceptable" at ~.5 amps on receive and ~1.5 amps TX. My biggest complaint about the radio is the Jones filter it uses. The filter is OK, but not nearly as good as the REAL filters in my OMNI. The radio comes with one band module--I picked 40. I also got the modules for 80, 20 and 15. Throw in shipping, etc., and the package cost me about $600. You can get the new Index Labs rig for the same $ (VERY nice!), but you give up the flexibility of having 50 watts if you want/need it. So, back to your question about getting the Scout or the Argonaut? Depends on what you want. If you only want QRP, then go for the Argonaut (or the Index Labs radio). But if you think you'll ever want a 50 watt radio, or one that's small enough to easily go mobile, chose the Scout. Sorry, to go off on my high horse on this issue, but I feel that Ten Tec and the Scout is getting "knocked" when they don't deserve it. Chet, AA1EX From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Tue Mar 22 22:12:07 1994 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 22:11:20 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Major BARRNet Outage: T-3 carrier @ Stanford University. (fwd) To: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 23:56:27 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Michael Gutierrez To: trouble@noc.ans.net, nsr@merit.edu, barrnet-alert@barrnet.net Subject: Major BARRNet Outage: T-3 carrier @ Stanford University. BARRNet is currently suffering a major T-3 carrier (Pac Bell) outage that has disconnected 18 T-1 customers. These include: Commercial Internet Exchange (CIX) Sun Microsystems Advanced Decision Systems NeXT Computers MasPar Computer Corp. Hybrid Systems Xerox - Palo Alto Research Pacific Bell, San Ramon SRI International Rockwell Science Center Institute for Global Communications (backed up on 56k) Tandem Computers T3Plus Networking Appsoft Inc. VLSI Technology, Inc. Fintronic Applied Biosystems U.S. Geological Survey, Menlo Park, Ca. No ETR has been provided by Pac Bell as of this writing. Robert Gutierrez / BARRNet Engineering. noc@barrnet.net From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Tue Mar 22 22:12:45 1994 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 22:12:26 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Consulting services (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 08:30:36 +0800 From:uomini@gorka.Eng.Sun.COM To: info@tlg.org Cc: uomini@gorka.Eng.Sun.COM Subject: Consulting services Hi, I undertsand TLG provides installation services on a fixed-price basis. I am interested in getting a price for installation of an Internet site. Specifically, I intend to provide commercial Internet access, via an upstream T1 link to TLG and downstream 19.2/14.4 Kb modem connections. Users will have PPP access into a Portmaster router which will be on an Ethernet with a Sparc 10 running SunOS 5.3 or 4.1.x. I need the following help: 1. Installation and configuration of the Portmasters 2. Installation and configuration of Solaris to support PPP. I'm not sure if this is needed, since PPP sessions will be between the user and the Portmaster. 3. Some help getting MacPPP to connect to a USR Sportster modem; it won't dial the modem unless Smartcom dials it first. 4. Recommendations on PPP software (if needed). 5. A quick guide to maintaining the system. Please reply to robert.uomini@eng.sun.com. Thanks! Bob Uomini From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Tue Mar 22 22:15:18 1994 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 22:15:00 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: www homepage (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 15:45:57 PST From:Susan_Adrian@wwire.net To: info@tlg.org Subject: www homepage I am exploring possibilities of putting a homepage on the www, and since I know you run a web server, I thought I'd contact you and find out if you put homepages on the web and if you do how much it costs. If you don't, can you think of other web servers that might provide that service. I'm also interested in general info about tlg. Do you have a generic blurb about tlg, what services you provide, how much they cost and so forth? If you have, I'd appreciate receiving it. Thanks Susan Adrian From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 23 17:15:48 1994 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 17:15:18 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: info (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 15:25:12 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Couture To: info@tlg.org Subject: info Thanks for the Info Richard p.s. I have a Mr Tom Gillen who is going to be getting service from TLG. Can I get an IP for his domain ( gillen.com )? From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 23 17:17:07 1994 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 17:16:33 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Internet startup questions (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 21 Mar 94 13:28:22 EST From: System Technology, Inc. <76570.1361@CompuServe.COM> To: info@tlg.org Subject: Internet startup questions Hello, We're interested in receiving information about becoming an Internet provider. We would like any help possible on] getting an Internet address and also providing new addresses to educational sites (clients of ours) who wish to do the same. Could you please give us a little info, some direction on establishing the necessary steps to meeting those goals? Thanks for your time. Carl Payne, System Technology, Inc (801) 373-4025 (801) 375-6805 fax (801)373-4095 or reply to 76570.1361@compuserve.com From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 23 17:18:53 1994 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 17:18:36 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Internet Info (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 22 Mar 94 01:05:05 EST From:sylvan@aol.com To: info@tlg.org Subject: Internet Info Hmm... I am interested in getting v.fast or 56k internet access, but would definitely prefer an LA/Santa Monica access number. Have you got one, or can you refer me to another service? -Aaron Sylvan (sylvan@aol.com) From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 23 17:19:53 1994 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 17:19:31 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Info request (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 09:18:47 -0800 (PST) From: David Beckemeyer To: info@tlg.org Subject: Info request I'm intersted in your services. Do you provide SLIP/PPP? And do you have NNTP or some other means for transmitting a Usenet newsfeed? Do you have local access phone numbers for Oakland? What are your fees? Send to david@bdt.com or call me at 510-530-9637, or fax 510-530-0451. Thanks. -- David Beckemeyer Voice: 510-530-9637 FAX: 510-530-0451 Oakland, CA davidb@netcom.com BBS: 510-530-9682 From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 23 17:21:20 1994 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 17:20:24 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: "Toaster Nets" (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: What the hell is a 'Toaster Net?' ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 22 Mar 94 10:50:34 PST From: Phil Morton To: info@tlg.org Cc: pmorton@cisco.com Subject: "Toaster Nets" I'm trying to think about what it will take to help my friends get on the Internet for cheap. The ones who can afford it (and some who can't) are signing up for Netcom, either through tty input, or with SLIP connections. What kind of services or information do you have? Thanks Phil Morton From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 23 17:22:27 1994 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 17:21:37 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: what setup do you use (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Although this is in Mich, it's nice to know that there are people out there both reading wired, and seeing the ad. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 18:20:19 -0500 From: John D. Lauer To: info@tlg.org Subject: what setup do you use I read your ad in Wired and am seriously considering setting up a business selling internet access in the Michigan/Ohio area. I would like to know, if you can give me this information, what software and hardware you use for your server. Specifically what computer and operating system do you use as the server for your modems and CSU/DSU's, if any. Are the modems all hooked into a hub or router that is specifically manufactured for IP over serial lines? If the modems are hooked into a computer like a UNIX machine what software are you using and who is the manufacturer of it. Do you use SLIP or PPP as the protocol for the connections? How does it all work together, i.e. how are all the POP servers connected and what media is used for the backbone? I would be extremely greatful if you could send me some information so I can expand my mind and be on my way to providing access to others. John D. Lauer **************************************** Rm. 5136-Scott 1503 Washington Hts. Ann Arbor, MI 48109 Phone: 313.764-1845 From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 23 17:25:25 1994 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 17:23:00 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Re: Mark Graham, Pandora, upset w/our support To: John Gilmore In-Reply-To: <9403222144.AA12123@cygnus.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 22 Mar 1994, John Gilmore wrote: > He says that they've been leaving messages on the voicemail at > 487 1902 since March 4th and have never received a callback. > The msgs are regarding the 56K line from Market St. to San Mateo. > > Is Flesh actually handling the voicemail properly these days? > Or is it just overload on your part that they aren't getting followup > calls or email? I just moved into a new place, and it's been rather helter skelter for the past couple of weeks. Everything's back to normal now. One thing I can say for certain. In regars to these calls, I talked to Tom last night, and have NOT recieved one call like this via voice mail. Are they calling and leaving any kind of message other than the usuak "gimmie a call" type, or are they hanging up? I have LOTS of those noted. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 23 17:26:09 1994 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 17:25:53 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: HELP! (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 14:56:49 PST From: Mark Graham To: info@tlg.org Subject: HELP! This is Mark Graham. Please call me @ (415) 346-4188. We are trying to get help with TLG. Thanks, - mark P.S. Please use voice mail and or our pager... Thanks, - mark From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 23 17:27:17 1994 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 17:26:56 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: info (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: eh????!?!?!?! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 23 Mar 94 11:56:04 PST From:karl@empirical.com To: info@tlg.org Subject: info Wow!! I remember when we created the Little Garden. I thought it had faded away. Anyway, since you are still alive and kicking, what is the hookup policy/charge rates/geographic extent? --karl-- From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 23 17:28:05 1994 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 17:27:49 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Access Information (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 23 Mar 94 15:45:31 PST From: Gary Johnson To: info@tlg.org Subject: Access Information TLG, I would like to get some information on the services you provide, along with the cost of each service. Specifically, I'm looking for SLIP and/or PPP type access to be used with Mosaic. Also, I'm interested in higher speed access capabilities to give many users in the company access to the internet via a direct connection. Thanks, Gary Johnson Failure Analysis Associates 149 Commonwealth Drive Menlo Park, CA 94025 415-688-7302 fax: 415-688-7269 glj@holonet.net From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 23 17:29:48 1994 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 17:28:37 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: request for info To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: A Mark Segal with Tribe computer works would like some info on TLG, and getting his business hooked up. -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 23 17:31:03 1994 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 17:30:05 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: request for info To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Daniel Smyth of Smyth offic systems would like information on how he can get his business hooked up to the internet. 285-7671 -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 23 17:32:31 1994 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 17:31:26 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: hello To: dfuhri@eff.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I'm verifying that you recieved the information that you requested. If you haven't I'll be glad to send it to you. Thanks for your interest. -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 23 17:33:31 1994 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 17:32:41 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: request for info To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: A Tom Ownell called and would like more info on the services provided by TLG. {possible netcom referal} -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 23 17:34:30 1994 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 17:33:38 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: request for info To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: A Neil Fieldman called, and would like information on TLG. He can usually be reached in the evenings @ 642-1183. -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 23 17:58:12 1994 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 17:56:58 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: A Steve Friedrik called and would like to hook up, now that apple is no longer providing this service in Cupertino. He can be reached at 408-725-4041. -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 23 17:59:19 1994 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 17:58:26 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: gateway problems To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Bill Castor called, he seems to be having a gateway (marin/sf) problem. He can be reached at 327-4859. -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 23 18:01:10 1994 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 17:59:32 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I tried to call you on this guy. He talked EXTREMLY fast, so that I could barely even make out any kind of phonetic spelling of his name. Phoneticly his name was/is pee kill comments (that's what it sounded like) who said that his "net is down." No phone number left. -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 23 18:02:05 1994 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 18:01:18 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: modem ordering (wants to order one) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: A "john" would like to order a modem from TLG. His number is 714-721-8603. -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 23 18:04:04 1994 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 18:02:42 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Mark Grahm has an emergency To: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Mark Grahm called twice today. He has "what would be by all standards of the word. an emergency" and needs to speak with someone ASAP. His number is 346-9829. -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 23 18:05:05 1994 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 18:04:12 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Pacific Bell To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: A Steve Dolan from Pacific Bell called, and would like to speak with you. His number is 408-493-7735 -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 23 18:07:42 1994 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 18:05:28 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Request for additional information To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: A David Bekmeir called, and would like to speak with someone about additional questions that the faq doesn't cover (he didn't say what thos questions were though). He can be reached at 510-530-9637, or emailed at david@bdt.com He says that he's sent email. I may have forwarded it, but I haven't seen any as of yet. I'll send him mail just to make sure. -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 23 18:09:39 1994 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 18:07:50 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: To: david@bdt.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello. You said (via voice mail) that you had some additional questions that were not covered in the faq. If they haven't been answered as of yet, may I ask as to what they are? Thanks for your interest. -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Wed Mar 23 18:13:13 1994 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 18:11:35 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: county of san mateo To: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: A darlien Leona from The County Of San Mateo called. She stated that she needed help with IP addressing and sub netting. She said, though, that a tech would be out there today, but would still like to speak with someone. He number is 363-7620, or she can be paged at 377-7620. -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Thu Mar 31 18:18:09 1994 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 18:16:39 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Re: your mail (fwd) To: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 08:42:38 -0800 (PST) From: David Beckemeyer To: Flesh Subject: Re: your mail > You said (via voice mail) that you had some additional questions that > were not covered in the faq. If they haven't been answered as of yet, may > I ask as to what they are? Many questions I have about the phone line setup and such are probably covered in the FAQ, but I'm not completely clear on all points. But I'm not quite to that point yet anyway, so I'll leave those for later. First, I'd like to know if there is a POP in Oakland. If not, then I'd like to ask if there's much demand for East Bay local access PPP/SLIP connections? If you don't have such a connection now, I might be able to provide a link to at least the Oakland/Berkeley area. I figure if 10 users split the cost, I could handle a 56Kb link. Would a 56Kb link handle 10 links? In other words I would have a dozen or so modems off my network of Suns for SLIP/PPP and dialup shell links, and one 56Kb connection to TLG in SF. Where could I receive news if I have a TLG link? Do you have a host that could feed me news via Internet or offer NNTP service? During what hours is someone available by voice? Thanks. -- David Beckemeyer (david@bdt.com) | P.O. Box 21575, Oakland, CA 94620 Beckemeyer Development | UUCP: netcom!bdt!david From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Thu Mar 31 18:23:47 1994 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 18:22:34 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Re: Hello?? To: david@dollar.fea.com In-Reply-To: <9403241733.AA14217@zloty> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I'm not sure if any of the other staff has written to you as of yet. But just so you know, your message has been received. -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Thu Mar 31 18:24:39 1994 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 18:24:15 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: New Member (fwd) To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 24 Mar 94 11:59:30 PST From: Tony Siress To: info@tlg.org Subject: New Member Tom, I know you have been really busy. Just rechecking on the status of a South Bay POP. The following company is interested in becomming a TLG member. They currently do not have any connection because they had a dispute with Portal. When you get time, give Dave Halper a call. He is their sysadmin. Great Job on keeping us on-line. Sincerely, Tony Siress see below for info: Systems Group (SYSGRP-DOM) 970 S. Milpitas Blvd. Milpitas, CA 95035 Domain Name: SYSGRP.COM Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact: Halper, Dave (DH50) jmcbride@JSM.COM (408) 957-7747 Record last updated on 24-Sep-93. Domain servers in listed order: NOVA.UNIX.PORTAL.COM 156.151.254.3 UUCP-GW-1.PA.DEC.COM 16.1.0.18 UUCP-GW-2.PA.DEC.COM 16.1.0.19 From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Thu Mar 31 18:28:15 1994 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 18:27:40 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Forwarded mail.... To: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 25 Mar 94 12:00:44 -0800 From:fossman@tintin.corp.sgi.com Subject: I am considering a T1 connection through TLG. I have digested most hardware and PacBell charges, and requested an order form. At some point should I be talking to a human for a sanity check on this procedure? Bill Foss -- fossman@sgi.com From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Thu Mar 31 18:30:55 1994 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 18:30:36 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Account information= (fwd) To: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 26 Mar 94 18:27:11 EST From:mirth1@aol.com To: info@tlg.org Subject: Account information= Hi- I'm interested in setting up IP service and a friend, Peter Rosberg, recommended you to me. I also saw (and distributed to a few of my clients) your add in WIRED. My name is Robert W. Lantry. At : 1320 California Street. Apt #2 San Francisco, CA 94109 My Phone is 415-929-0291. I would like to set up a permanent (or almost permanent) SLIP account, using ChameleonNFS to provide my basic TCPIP with a US Robotics 14.4 modem. If this sounds doable, please contact me with the pertinent information as soon as possible. If I could, I would like to stop by your San Francisco point of contact to make my payment immediately - and to see your setup(s). Thanx! Robert From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Thu Mar 31 18:32:01 1994 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 18:31:38 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Forwarded mail.... To: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 26 Mar 94 23:32:42 -0500 From: Louis Raphael Subject: To whom it may concern: I suspect that you are the administrator of a public access Internet site or of an Internet service provider that resells dialup accounts to the public. If you are not, please discard this message and accept my apologies for the inconvenience. If you are, you may wish to be listed in my FSLIST, a list of dialup-account providers which contains well over 100 public access sites. A copy of this list is available by anonymous FTP from login.qc.ca:/pub/fslist/FSLIST13. Each new issue is posted to a number of newsgroups including (but not limited to) alt.internet.access.wanted, alt.internet.services, alt.internet.bbs and alt.online-services. If you wish to be listed, mail the completed template (see end of message) back to me. If you have any questions or comments, feel free to write. Thank you for your attention, Louis Raphael Maintainer of FSLIST Blank template (an annotated template is included further below) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Name: Node-name: Area served: Area codes: Voice: Fax: Dialup: Maximum baud rate: Services: Fees: E-mail: Restrictions/notes: Explanation of fields ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Name: The name of your company (service provider) Node-name: Your Internet node, in site.host.dom format Area served: Local dialup area Area codes: (substitute country code + area code if outside NA) Voice: Voice contact Fax: Dialup: Modem dialup numbers. Providers with online registration will want to fill this part in, as well as add a note about the availability of an automatic registration. Maximum baud rate: Services: The services that you provide. Ordinarily, telnet and FTP is the minimum level of service required to be eligible for listing, but I sometimes make exceptions for remote areas with no other providers. Fees: E-mail: Restrictions/notes: This is the place to inform potential users about commercial use restrictions, or anything else that didn't fit in to the standard template. Please try to keep the template as short as possible. You may want to install an automatic e-mail responder for possible clients seeking more information if you can't fit everything in. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Thu Mar 31 18:32:35 1994 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 18:32:20 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: please send info (fwd) To: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 21:04:08 -0800 From: Scott T Boyd To: info@tlg.org Subject: please send info Dear TLG, I'm moving to Montara (just north of Half Moon Bay), and am interested in (a) getting set up with a full-time PPP connection, and (b) perhaps offering access to others (i.e. becoming a POP for TLG). I'd appreciate information, and I'd also like to talk with someone about the possible ways to arrange such a deal. Thanks for your help. Regards, scott boyd boyd@netcom.com 408/252-4605 (after 10am, please) From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Thu Mar 31 18:35:43 1994 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 18:35:22 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: T1 leased line (fwd) To: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 15:47:24 -0500 (EST) From: Adam Curry To: info@tlg.org Cc: Karl.Jacob@eng.sun.com Subject: T1 leased line Hi, My name is Adam Curry, and I'm interested in obtaining a leased T1 line in the Bay Area. I would also like to discuss the possibilities re: POP and resource sharing. Please call me at 201-857-5496 Regards, Adam Curry From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Thu Mar 31 18:40:26 1994 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 18:40:10 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: 56Kb or T1 (fwd) To: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 30 Mar 94 14:26:03 PST From: Christopher Ambler To: info@tlg.org Subject: 56Kb or T1 I'm interested in securing T1 or 56Kb connections, but my location in San Luis Obispo, CA (805-781/805-782) makes it very difficult. Do you have any carrier arrangements, or are you local-loop only? ++Christopher(); From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Thu Mar 31 18:41:27 1994 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 18:41:12 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: 24 hour internet access (fwd) To: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 11:20:55 -0800 (PST) From: Jennifer Cox To: info@tlg.org Subject: 24 hour internet access Hi, I am a teacher at the San Francisco Day School and am trying to arrange internet access for our school. I am hoping to put together three proposals for the administration, one lower cost, one medium cost and one higher cost. low cost: SLIP connection through a telephone line, with a dedicated modem at your end, a sun workstation at ours, ethernet to 6 other computers in the library... medium cost: the above but with a 56K leased line ... high cost: medium cost proposal but with other computers in the school connected via ethernet to the library system... These are just some ideas. Would you be able to help me assess our school's situation and come up with ball park costs for some proposals (not necessarily the above)? I look forward to hearing from you. Thanks! Jennifer Cox Math/Computer Teacher San Francisco Day School (415) 931-2422 FAX (415)931-1753 From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Thu Mar 31 18:41:56 1994 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 18:41:41 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: POP in Hawaii (fwd) To: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 11:23:54 -0800 (PST) From: Del Wong To: info@tlg.org Subject: POP in Hawaii I was wondering if you would consider having a POP here in Hawaii, and if so under what circumstances? Flex Information Network is a Unix based online system here in Honolulu, Hawaii. We are looking for an Internet feed of some sort. We are exploring various options of getting a data line out to San Francisco and the cheapest so far is a GTE Spacenet 56K line for around $2300 per month. Would TLG be interested in having a POP here on the islands? Laters... Del Wong Flex Information Network From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Thu Mar 31 18:46:20 1994 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 18:44:22 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: request for service To: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Tom Hunt 408-481-1950 408-733-8400 Interested in 14.4/V.32 bis connection as well as a POP. -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Thu Mar 31 18:48:07 1994 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 18:46:27 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: request for info on services To: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: Greg Marshal w/ Pac Bell. He supports ISDN and digital connection services, and would be interested in offering his support and services to TLG. -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Thu Mar 31 18:49:28 1994 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 18:48:14 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: request for classes To: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: Jean Silverstein is interested in Bay Area Internet Literacy. Her number is 510-525-4567. -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Thu Mar 31 18:51:21 1994 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 18:50:24 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Greg Marshall To: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Opps. I almost forgot the phone number. Sorry about that. His number is 408-493-7737. -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Thu Mar 31 19:14:36 1994 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 19:10:42 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: voice mail will be down To: admin@fnord.tlg.org cc: garden-list@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII TLG Voice mail will be down on April 16th, during 8:00pm PST until 6:00am PST. During this time Pacific Bell will be performing maintenence on the hardware. -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Thu Mar 31 19:18:35 1994 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 19:14:48 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: potential customer would like to "buy into the internet." To: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Micheal Koffman from KQED would like to discuss with someone about "buying into the internet, and getting KQED hooked-up>." His number is 553-2242. -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Thu Mar 31 19:19:45 1994 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 19:18:58 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Tim called To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Tim called Wed morning. No message left, other than "call me at 346-4188." -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Thu Mar 31 19:20:56 1994 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 19:19:48 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Paul Hadly called To: tim@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Paul Hadley called for you. His number is 363-4483 -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Thu Mar 31 19:22:53 1994 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 19:21:08 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: request for class/ seminar info To: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hazel Blasier is interested in April Internet seminar classes. Her numbers are 738-8199 or 392-2299. -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Thu Mar 31 19:24:31 1994 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 19:22:56 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: microtech needs their security password. To: Tom Jennings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII As the above says, Conklin Nichols from microtech called. They need the password in order to access their services. The phone number is 424-1174. -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Thu Mar 31 19:25:17 1994 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 19:25:10 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: what's the new info (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 31 Mar 94 12:58:38 -0800 From: Arthur Abraham To: info@tlg.org Subject: what's the new info what's up? From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Thu Mar 31 19:36:00 1994 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 19:35:07 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: For Tim To: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Paul Hadley called for you. His number is 363-4483 -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Thu Mar 31 19:37:13 1994 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 19:36:11 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: info request To: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Nancy Hayden would like information on TLG services provided. Her number is 456-3597. -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Thu Mar 31 19:38:25 1994 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 19:37:17 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: information request To: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Carl from system Technology would like information on getting a t1 connection. He is in Provo Utah. His number is 801-373-4025. -- The Little Garden, a San Francisco Bay Area Internetwork info@tlg.org A brochure and basic info. Anon. FTP: tlg.org TLG-FAQ@tlg.org Frequently Asked Questions. Web: http://tlg.org/ order-form@tlg.org New service questionnaire. admin@tlg.org Actual humans. From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Sat Apr 2 09:56:54 1994 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 09:56:25 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: Need slip connection, before 6 April (Wed) if possible (fwd) To: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 1 Apr 94 14:50:04 PST From: Paul Spinrad To: info@tlg.org Subject: Need slip connection, before 6 April (Wed) if possible Hi there! Subject line tells the story. I want to be able to demonstrate Mosaic on Wednesday morning-- is this possible? Call me at 510-337-2115 during office hours, or (don't hesitate) 415-826-0773 in the eve or over the weekend. Thanks a ton!! Paul Spinrad From flesh@fnord.tlg.org Sat Apr 2 09:58:09 1994 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 09:57:41 -0800 (PST) From: Flesh Subject: I want to sign up! (fwd) To: admin@fnord.tlg.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 00:28:22 -0800 From: Luke McCormick To: info@tlg.org Subject: I want to sign up! Hi, I'm ready to hook my Linux machine (rock.net) up to TLG. What do I do, and how long does it take? Do I drive somewhere and give you my modem? Do you register my domain name with NIC or do I take care of that? I'd like to do this soon, I have a big project that's waiting for it. Let me know what the next step is, I can't wait to leave the store and forward world of UUCP to be jacked into the net... luke-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Luke McCormick * lukem@a2i.rahul.net * Free Tracy Miller!! ----------------------------------------------------------------------