From gnu@cygnus.com Mon Sep 13 15:33:22 1993 Received: from cygnus.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA16379; Mon, 13 Sep 93 15:33:20 -0700 Received: from localhost.cygnus.com by cygnus.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09674; Mon, 13 Sep 93 15:33:16 PDT Message-Id: <9309132233.AA09674@cygnus.com> To: tomj@wps.com, gnu@cygnus.com Subject: Walkin' the planks Date: Mon, 13 Sep 93 15:33:16 -0700 From: gnu@cygnus.com X-Status: Status: OR I popped in to a couple of businesses here in the Cygnus complex to ask if they wanted Internet service. One is Remedy Corp, Eric CHristiansen, +1 415 903 5244. Left him a card but haven't talked yet. Another is PCI, just setting up as a branch of a Swiss software company. Christian Caillat is their general manager. I left a card with the one emp there in the wide open office space, and he called me back 20 minutes later. He'll check with his networking experts back in Switzerland and see if they're interested. I had done this with another business here a few weeks ago, which is a market research firm, but they never called back. John From gnu@cygnus.com Mon Sep 20 14:47:17 1993 Received: from cygnus.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA14753; Mon, 20 Sep 93 14:47:14 -0700 Received: from localhost.cygnus.com by cygnus.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19417; Mon, 20 Sep 93 14:47:11 PDT Message-Id: <9309202147.AA19417@cygnus.com> To: tomj@wps.com, pozar@kumr.lns.com, gnu@cygnus.com, ambar@cygnus.com Subject: SC Solutions -- TLG prospect Date: Mon, 20 Sep 93 14:47:11 -0700 From: gnu@cygnus.com X-Status: Status: OR Gregory Loy, President of this company, is interested in Internet access. They are directly across the hall from Cygnus. They want to start with a 14400 connection, by running a serial port across the hall into a terminal concentrator. They do a lot of work with Crays at the various supercomputer centers and are interested in being able to telnet and FTP to them. They are running TCP/IP on cheapernet now, with an RS/6000, a terminal server talking to modems, a Novell server, and some PC's and things. If they start with the $70/mo connection, there's little overhead on their end, and if they like it, they can spring for the higher speed access without having wasted much time or money. Does TLG currently have a terminal server on the Cygnus premises? I thought we served a couple of people from here, but I don't see it on the TLG IP maps. (We may be able to scam a line on the Cygnus term server until it's worth adding the hardware here. Or, if we replace the PC's with a Livingston, we can move a PC down here to serve one or a few folks.) The easiest way to hook up large numbers of people in the Landmark campus would be to put them all on ethernet. But this requires having a good source of ethernet routers. (We could recycle a Sparcstation-1 into a router by adding Ethernet Sbus boards, perhaps.) It also require us pricing these folks' access so that they all don't have to pay $800/mo when they're just little outfits. (How do we handle this at the University Ave campus?) It's the same problem as when Rich Morin wanted ISDN but didn't want to use all that bandwidth except once every three months. John From gnu@toad.com Mon Sep 27 09:45:03 1993 Received: from toad.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA12122; Mon, 27 Sep 93 09:44:59 -0700 Received: from localhost by toad.com id AA13991; Mon, 27 Sep 93 09:44:57 PDT Message-Id: <9309271644.AA13991@toad.com> To: tomj@wps.com Subject: [MAILER-DAEMON@uunet.uu.net (Mail Delivery Subsystem): Returned mail: Host unknown] Date: Mon, 27 Sep 93 09:44:56 -0700 From: gnu@toad.com X-Status: Status: OR ------- Forwarded Message Return-Path: MAILER-DAEMON@uunet.uu.net Return-Path: Received: from relay2.UU.NET by toad.com id AA13775; Mon, 27 Sep 93 09:38:16 PDT Received: from toad.com by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AB29955; Mon, 27 Sep 93 12:38:08 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 93 12:38:08 -0400 From: MAILER-DAEMON@uunet.uu.net (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown Message-Id: <9309271638.AB29955@relay2.UU.NET> To: ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 ... Host unknown ----- Recipients of this delivery ----- ----- Unsent message follows ----- Received: from toad.com by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA29884; Mon, 27 Sep 93 12:38:08 -0400 Received: from localhost by toad.com id AA13772; Mon, 27 Sep 93 09:38:06 PDT Message-Id: <9309271638.AA13772@toad.com> To: tomj@fwps.com, pozar@kumr.lns.com Subject: [Donald Wilton: into a little garden] Date: Mon, 27 Sep 93 09:38:05 -0700 From: gnu@toad.com This guy is involved with networking Glide. It looks like if they have a SLIP link into SF State, we should let SF State have them. But maybe this is a good example for CalREN to subsidize a leased line for, so they can go 56K to us rather than SLIP to SFSU. John - ------- Forwarded Message Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 04:27:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Donald Wilton Subject: into a little garden To: gnu@toad.com Message-Id: I would be interested in a phone conversation or visit to your shop. Our timesharing will get some expewrience, as the people involved have gotten permission to set up a SLIP server, no charge at either end, for Glide memorial church, via SFSU. this will run at 9600 baud. The computers and You center at Glide, will run on the net. I will have an interest in what you do, that this doesn't do. I will have some interest, in using the access in new ways. An example is an alternative to SFNet. this ripoff charges homeless people around $5 an hour, to use onsite machines, to use email. I envision a place with dedicated terminals, operating off of a used Northstar, or other server, that charges a flat rate of $10 a month, for email, Usenet, ftp to your diskette and gopher stuff for data searches. I don't think that homeless folks have a use for all of that, but there are already a couple of hundred people who hustle about $40 a month for SFNet, each! This is enough with used hardware, to pay for your 56K baud line, a server and a small staff. I even know somebody who will sell and install terminals running QNX, and it'll run off of a 386 using coax, to multitask the system. I found a router, called a RACAL, and I *think* that we can set it up to run multiple modems on, so that people can call in, use our stuff and use a bbs as well. Once I have enough information and knowledge to use it, from creating essentially the same thing at Glide, I hope to get started. - ------- End of Forwarded Message ------- End of Forwarded Message From grossman@cygnus.com Tue Oct 5 12:15:23 1993 Received: from cygnus.com by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA21102; Tue, 5 Oct 93 12:15:21 -0700 Received: by cygnus.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08266; Tue, 5 Oct 93 12:15:18 PDT Date: Tue, 5 Oct 93 12:15:18 PDT From: grossman@cygnus.com (Stu Grossman) Message-Id: <9310051915.AA08266@cygnus.com> To: tomj@wps.com In-Reply-To: Tom Jennings's message of Mon, 4 Oct 1993 17:32:01 +0000 (WET DST) <9310050032.AA15063@wps.com> Subject: TLG/RGNET price/service schedule X-Status: Status: OR I brought your price schedule to four people in the complex here. They are: SETI Institute Janel M. Geiewing 415-961-6633 Network Automation Stephen V. Gallucci 415-988-6900 Remedy Systems Eric Christensen 415-903-5244 SC Solutions Gregory Loy 415-903-5050 They have your phone # and e-mail address. One thing about these folks, is that since they are in the same building as us, we can just string ethernet to them, so that the startup costs should be minimal. But, since we charge for bandwidth, we will need some way to monitor their net usage for billing purposes. Stu