via seiden: i've got a guy who claims to be interested in housing an east bay pop. he's in hayward. he's rein@pyramid.com. (pronounced like Rhine). this seems like a good location because it's reachable from a lot of the east bay that isn't a local call to sf1. i sent him the general posting, talked to him on the phone, and said we'd take it from there a bit later. sameer Bill Woodcock From infinity!sameer@infinity.hip.berkeley.edu Wed Dec 1 23:51:59 1993 Received: from infinity.HIP.Berkeley.EDU by fido.wps.com (5.67/wps.com-hackery) id AA04429; Wed, 1 Dec 93 23:51:49 -0800 Received: from infinity by infinity.hip.berkeley.edu with uucp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0p58jo-000J6qC; Wed, 1 Dec 93 23:46 PST Message-Id: Subject: Setting up an internet house in Berkeley To: queue@echo.com, matthew@echo.com, pozar@kumr.lns.com, hugh@toad.com, gnu@toad.com Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 19:14:44 -0800 (PST) From: Sameer Reply-To: sameer@uclink.berkeley.edu Pgp-Strong-Print: 3C AE E4 00 C2 6A 81 FF 49 4E EE 0C CD CD 1D 80 Pgp-Casual-Print: 9B 09 C6 97 04 B6 83 23 94 88 4F CF 1D 4D D8 E8 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 3564 Sender: sameer@infinity.hip.berkeley.edu Status: OR -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, Adam Fast told me I should get in touch with you folk, so that's what I'm doing. (Adam mentioned Toad Hall-- is that the toad.com of cypherpunks fame? if not, then you toad.com folk please disregard this message.) I hope to be able to set up an internet cooperative living thing in Berkeley (close to campus, I'm a student there) with a 56 kbps connection through TLG. I've written up a little intro-blurb which I'm going to send out to people I know in Berkeley, and see how that goes, and set up an e-list to hash out some issues before we get started. Comments? Advice? Suggestions? I'm hoping to keep the price down to 350/room + 100/person. That seems appropriate, to me, but I don't know how *POSSIBLE* that is. Thanks, Sameer (What follows is my proto-blurb) - ------------------------------------------- Subject: Direct inet to your home? I may have already talked to you about this stuff, or I may not have done so. In any case, tell me what you think. If you have any friends who might be interested, tell me who it is, and I'll send 'em this invitation. At this stage I'd like to keep things relatively small, but once we get a little bit of ground-work done, a post to ba.general and ucb.general would be good, as well as posts to sfraves, cypherpunks, exi-bay, and maybe some other lists. What I'm planning for the fall of '94 is an internet cooperative living situation, also known as a NEXUS. It's a pretty simple concept. I want a direct internet feed to my home. I can't afford a direct internet feed, but if the feed is shared among a few people, then it's very possible. Expanding further, what's possible through the NEXUS is the formation of a NEXUS-network-- a network of NEXI across the globe, to "hardwire the gaia consciousness," to make a truly digital underground economy possible, to establish a virtual libertarian city-state. There is a *lot* of potential for this NEXUS-network, but right now I think the goal should just be set to have an inet-house in Berkeley. My target price is 350/room + 100/person. (I.e. 450 for a single room per person, 275 for a double room per person) I don't know whether this is possible-- I don't really know what housing costs are like around here... Internet houses, Adam Fast tells me, are in existence in San Fransicso and Santa Cruz. The Little Garden provides internet connections at 56 kbps for only 325/month. The biggest expense, I think, will be the hardware. Routers, CSU/DSU, etc. Adam gives me an estimate of 4k for the equipment. That's a bit much-- hopefully through gutter-tech we can pull off something cheaper. Maybe the TLG folk can give us some pointers to cheap equipment. (I've talked with Tom Jennings, he's a really good guy..) If you're interested, reply to this message, and I'll throw you on the startup NEXUS-Berkeley mailing list. At this point I want to leave the list semi-private until more details can be worked out for a more public announcement in other forums, such as ba.* and some e-lists. What say you? Wanna be wired? Wanna take part in the next revolution of networking? (ARPANet [the precursor to the internet] was started by about 11 or so people, so I hear, in a similar fashion.) Peace, Sameer -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLP1dkXi7eNFdXppdAQEMPQP+MPDYSJ7VsZULpNQ7O7aG5W8/KaZE2nv1 LgxdTzqYuX9YNdks9I8zcjAf+iYMWAt6dogEssNrzKXBLjzKF0vNRVt/KnUWn/SR L3KQFdLQQ0r+n/4GVpnOltWNO30FMb/NuS1//2Bk9/UB3GlvwwQ1O5kXXCHX1hIi KO+V7W5JgTg= =Y6OF -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----