From tlc@kumr.lns.com Fri Mar 11 13:46:42 1994 Received: from kumr.lns.com by fnord.tlg.org (8.3/wps.com-hackery) id NAA09584; Fri, 11 Mar 1994 13:46:29 -0800 Received: by kumr.lns.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.3) id ; Fri, 11 Mar 94 13:47 PST Message-Id: From: tlc@kumr.lns.com (Ed Johnson) Subject: SLIP connection request To: admin@tlg.org, @Internet Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 13:47:37 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text Content-Length: 9620 Status: OR The Little Garden - Low speed, Modem-based Internet Service O R D E R F O R M Most recent update: 22 February, 1994 STOP! Have you read the TLG Frequently Asked Questions documents? They are required reading; you can obtain them via FTP from tlg.org as file ""ftp://tlg.org/pub/tlg-modem.faq" for modem-based connections, or ftp://tlg.org/pub/tlg-leased-line.faq" for leased-line-based connections. TLG maintains low overhead and the sanity of its volunteers and miniscule paid staff by having each member do some of the work. Let's start here! The information in this Order Form is needed to start your connection. If you can't answer it all, fill out what you can and mail it to admin@tlg.org with your very specific questions, and someone will contact you. ALWAYS SAVE A COPY! TLG WILL *NOT* NECESSARILY SAVE WHAT YOU SEND US! We might have to pass this back and forth a few tims to get it all filled in. It is up to YOU to save a copy of this file! (For brevity, you can delete all this junk above the long dashed line below.) Please "check boxes" by replace the space with an X -- and nothing else. This way our lazy staff can use nice scripts to process these Order Forms -- and keep overhead and costs low. [ ] Un-checked box [X] Checked box [*] PLEASE DON'T! Postal address: The Little Garden Box 410923 San Francisco CA 94141-0923 Voice phone: 415-487-1902 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Little Garden - Low speed, Modem-based Internet Service O R D E R F O R M Most recent update: January 25, 1994 Reply-to: admin@tlg.org (Order Form) Please do not re-format this document! ---------------- #!! CONTACT INFORMATION All we need at this stage is a way to reliably converse with your, with a very strong preference for email, as we might pass this Order Form back and forth a few times to get it all filled out. ALWAYS SAVE A COPY! TLG WILL *NOT* NECESSARILY SAVE WHAT YOU SEND US! #! tlc@kumr.lns.com *** ---------------- #!! EXPERTISE/EXPERIENCE Specifically with installing TCP/IP and related software. This helps us pick a volunteer to help you get online. While we don't expect you to have done this before, you must be able to take care of the bulk of the work yourself. ANSWERS -- enter one digit into the boxes below. 0 Why, I wrote the RFC, back in the olden dayes. 1 I do it more than occasionally; confident. 2 Some TCP/IP experience, will likely take care of it myself. 3 Limited experience, might need assistence with specifics. 4 Have thoroughly read about it, probably need assistence. 5 No TCP/IP knowledge, some computer experience. 6 Cannot do it myself. #:e [4] IP networking basics (IP addresses vs. domain names, etc). #:e [1] Establishing the modem link. #:e [4] Installing/configuring/debugging SLIP/PPP. #:e [ ] Can make routing work. #:e [ ] Can configure/debug DNS. #:e [ ] I might consider becoming a TLG volunteer; tell me more about it! ---------------- #!! HOST SOFTWARE System software YOU will be using on your end. We don't really care what you use -- but some systems provide enough tools that we won't worry about it -- and some are very limited. If you have a mixed system (unix, DOS, Mac, etc) just let us know what your capabilities are. Unix variants: #oa [ ] NetBSD #oa [ ] BSD386 #oa [ ] Linux #oa [ ] FreeBSD #oa [ ] 386/BSD #oa [ ] SunOS/Solaris #oa [ ] Other UNIX variant DOS/Macintosh/Windows: #oa [ ] NOS.EXE (KA9Q) #oaw1-2 [X] Windows 3.1 with Winsock (note1) #oa [ ] Macintosh Mac TCP/IP (note1) Note1: Mac TCP/IP and Windows/Winsock is still somewhat limited in server software to provide basic Internet services. Generally, FTP, Gopher and Web servers and clients are available; Telnet servers so far are not. It is up to you to determine if the software currently available meets your needs. Check this box if you are using Macintosh TCP/IP or Windows/Winsock to indicate you understand this: #oaw2-2 [X] I understand Macintosh/Windows may have limited services. ---------------- #!! LINE PROTOCOL What protocol will you use? PPP is slightly easier to install, sometimes, but SLIP provides marginally better performance on lower-speed links iff Van Jacobson compression is used. Use whatever you've got. #ob [ ] I will use Van Jacobson compressed SLIP (sometimes called CSLIP). #ob [X] I will use uncompressed SLIP. #ob [ ] I will use PPP. #ob [ ] I have not located driver software yet. ---------------- #!! (domain) NAMES AND (ip) ADDRESSES If you already have a connection to the internet, other than a "shell account", let us know here. Regarding IP addresses: We STRONGLY prefer to assign you a full 8-bit subnet portion of a Class B address, rather than have you obtain one from the NIC. If you REALLY have a need for a separate NIC-assigned address, let us know. #h [ ] I already have a domain name in use. #h [ ] I already have a NIC-assigned subnet in use. #h [ ] I now/recently have/had direct Internet service. (NOTE: We'll ask you what it is later.) #h [X] I'd like TLG to help me set up my domain name. We suggest that you do your own DNS primary, if possible; it's reasonably easy, helps spread the work load, and gives you direct control over your own domain. If you can't do it (eg. Windows which doesn't provide name-service software) we'll gladly do it for you. #h [X] I need TLG to do my primary domain name service. We have an outside-TLG site which will do secondary domain name service for us. You should have at least one not-connected- to-the-same-network secondary server. #h [ ] I'd like TLG to do secondary name service. ---------------- #!! PHONE LINES We take two approaches on phone lines, depending on whether your site is considered a "residence" or a "business". Residential is preferred; as part of your monthly flat-rate you get to call certain exchanges for no additional cost; business rates means you pay $0.01 per minute for all calls. #pr [ ] I have residential service at my site. #pb1-4 [X] I have business phone service at this site. IF YOU DID NOT CHECK "residential" READ THIS CAREFULLY! Because business-rate local calls are charged per-minute, direct dialing into the TLG POP is not practical ($0.01/minute, 43,200 minutes/month...). We have a technological fix that requires your site to be a local call FROM two of our POPs; San Francisco or Palo Alto. Determine this from the charts in the next section. If you are, then you can buy modems that have a "call back" or "security dial back" function; not all do. The ZyXEL U-1496E's work quite well for this. #pc [ ] I need details on modem dial-back functions. 08 Feb 94 NOTE: We haven't got this list together yet; we'll do it manually for now. IF YOUR EXCHANGE IS ONE OF THE FOLLOWING check the box below: (list that can call 444 Market) #pl1-3 [X] SF POPs are accessible. IF YOUR EXCHANGE IS ONE OF THE FOLLOWING check the box below: (list that can call Cygnus) #pl2-3 [ ] Mtn. View POP is accessible. IF YOUR EXCHANGE IS ONE OF THE FOLLOWING check the box below: (list that can call Univ) #pl3-3 [ ] Palo Alto POP is accessible. (Applies only if you checked "business phone service" above) #pb2-4 [ ] My business site is a local call from Palo Alto. #pb2-4 [ ] My business site is a local call from San Francisco. #pb4-4 [X] My business site is not a local call from any TLG POP. ---------------- #!! MODEM There are many fine modems, and a few clunkers to avoid. There are so many choices of modems that we don't pretend to be up on them all. #m [X] I read and understand the modem related issues in the TLG FAQ sheet. #m [X] I understand the business rate dial-back modem requirements. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- #!! NSFNET ACCEPTABLE USE POLICY NSFnet Acceptable Use Policy (AUP) applies to all traffic to and through NSF-funded networks, not necessarily all of the Internet (and certainly not TLG portions of the network.) You can get a copy of the NSFnet AUP, as well as AUP's of other large internetworks, from ftp://nis.nsf.net/nsfnet/acceptable.use.policies/ #n [X] I understand the NSFnet Acceptable Use Policy. #n [X] I understand which of my traffic NSFnet AUP applies to. #n [X] I agree to follow NSFnet AUP for my traffic crossing NSFnet. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please mail this completed Order Form to TLG, to admin@tlg.org. If there's anything you'd like to add, please do -- comments, questions, etc. Once you've decided you want to go ahead with the connection, we'll get going on the connection itself. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Ed Johnson Sherrel & Company 5345 River Point Discovery Bay, CA 94514-9455 510/634-3300 Voice 510/634-3343 Fax Or via Internet mail: tlc@kumr.lns.com or sherrel@aol.com My requirment is as follows. I will not need a full time connection. Since my locattion is some distance from any of your POP's, I will dial in during the lowest rate periods (11:00 p.m. - 8:00 a.m.) to FTP files from a remote host, as needed. I am not looking to receive E-mail, nor to allow other users to FTP from, nor TELNET into my machine. The software I have purchased is Super-TCP for Windows by Frontier Technologies, and it includes a SLIP driver. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------