From tomj Tue Mar 22 12:35:18 1994 Received: from localhost by fnord.tlg.org (8.3/wps.com-hackery) id MAA16143; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 12:35:15 -0800 Received: from mail.netcom.com by fnord.tlg.org (8.3/wps.com-hackery) id PAA12122; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 15:29:57 -0800 Received: from localhost by mail.netcom.com (8.6.4/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id PAA09857; Thu, 17 Mar 1994 15:32:06 -0800 From: imf@netcom.com (Ian McFarland) Message-Id: <199403172332.PAA09857@mail.netcom.com> Subject: no subject (file transmission) To: admin@tlg.org Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 15:31:59 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 8057 Sender: tomj Status: OR --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Little Garden - Low speed, Modem-based Internet Service O R D E R F O R M Most recent update: January 25, 1994 Reply-to: admin@tlg.org (Order Form) Please do not re-format this document! ---------------- #!! CONTACT INFORMATION All we need at this stage is a way to reliably converse with your, with a very strong preference for email, as we might pass this Order Form back and forth a few times to get it all filled out. ALWAYS SAVE A COPY! TLG WILL *NOT* NECESSARILY SAVE WHAT YOU SEND US! #! person@domain to send mail to: imf@netcom.com *** ---------------- #!! EXPERTISE/EXPERIENCE Specifically with installing TCP/IP and related software. This helps us pick a volunteer to help you get online. While we don't expect you to have done this before, you must be able to take care of the bulk of the work yourself. ANSWERS -- enter one digit into the boxes below. 0 Why, I wrote the RFC, back in the olden dayes. 1 I do it more than occasionally; confident. 2 Some TCP/IP experience, will likely take care of it myself. 3 Limited experience, might need assistence with specifics. 4 Have thoroughly read about it, probably need assistence. 5 No TCP/IP knowledge, some computer experience. 6 Cannot do it myself. #:e [4] IP networking basics (IP addresses vs. domain names, etc). #:e [3] Establishing the modem link. #:e [4] Installing/configuring/debugging SLIP/PPP. #:e [3] Can make routing work. #:e [4] Can configure/debug DNS. #:e [X] I might consider becoming a TLG volunteer; tell me more about it! ---------------- #!! HOST SOFTWARE System software YOU will be using on your end. We don't really care what you use -- but some systems provide enough tools that we won't worry about it -- and some are very limited. If you have a mixed system (unix, DOS, Mac, etc) just let us know what your capabilities are. Unix variants: #oa [ ] NetBSD #oa [ ] BSD386 #oa [X] Linux #oa [X] FreeBSD #oa [ ] 386/BSD #oa [ ] SunOS/Solaris #oa [ ] Other UNIX variant DOS/Macintosh/Windows: #oa [ ] NOS.EXE (KA9Q) #oaw1-2 [X] Windows 3.1 with Winsock (note1) #oa [X] Macintosh Mac TCP/IP (note1) Note1: Mac TCP/IP and Windows/Winsock is still somewhat limited in server software to provide basic Internet services. Generally, FTP, Gopher and Web servers and clients are available; Telnet servers so far are not. It is up to you to determine if the software currently available meets your needs. Check this box if you are using Macintosh TCP/IP or Windows/Winsock to indicate you understand this: #oaw2-2 [X] I understand Macintosh/Windows may have limited services. ---------------- #!! LINE PROTOCOL What protocol will you use? PPP is slightly easier to install, sometimes, but SLIP provides marginally better performance on lower-speed links iff Van Jacobson compression is used. Use whatever you've got. #ob [ ] I will use Van Jacobson compressed SLIP (sometimes called CSLIP). #ob [ ] I will use uncompressed SLIP. #ob [X] I will use PPP. #ob [ ] I have not located driver software yet. ---------------- #!! (domain) NAMES AND (ip) ADDRESSES If you already have a connection to the internet, other than a "shell account", let us know here. Regarding IP addresses: We STRONGLY prefer to assign you a full 8-bit subnet portion of a Class B address, rather than have you obtain one from the NIC. If you REALLY have a need for a separate NIC-assigned address, let us know. #h [ ] I already have a domain name in use. #h [ ] I already have a NIC-assigned subnet in use. #h [ ] I now/recently have/had direct Internet service. (NOTE: We'll ask you what it is later.) #h [X] I'd like TLG to help me set up my domain name. We suggest that you do your own DNS primary, if possible; it's reasonably easy, helps spread the work load, and gives you direct control over your own domain. If you can't do it (eg. Windows which doesn't provide name-service software) we'll gladly do it for you. #h [ ] I need TLG to do my primary domain name service. We have an outside-TLG site which will do secondary domain name service for us. You should have at least one not-connected- to-the-same-network secondary server. #h [X] I'd like TLG to do secondary name service. ---------------- #!! PHONE LINES We take two approaches on phone lines, depending on whether your site is considered a "residence" or a "business". Residential is preferred; as part of your monthly flat-rate you get to call certain exchanges for no additional cost; business rates means you pay $0.01 per minute for all calls. #pr [X] I have residential service at my site. #pb1-4 [ ] I have business phone service at this site. IF YOU DID NOT CHECK "residential" READ THIS CAREFULLY! Because business-rate local calls are charged per-minute, direct dialing into the TLG POP is not practical ($0.01/minute, 43,200 minutes/month...). We have a technological fix that requires your site to be a local call FROM two of our POPs; San Francisco or Palo Alto. Determine this from the charts in the next section. If you are, then you can buy modems that have a "call back" or "security dial back" function; not all do. The ZyXEL U-1496E's work quite well for this. #pc [ ] I need details on modem dial-back functions. 08 Feb 94 NOTE: We haven't got this list together yet; we'll do it manually for now. IF YOUR EXCHANGE IS ONE OF THE FOLLOWING check the box below: (list that can call 444 Market) #pl1-3 [X] SF POPs are accessible. IF YOUR EXCHANGE IS ONE OF THE FOLLOWING check the box below: (list that can call Cygnus) #pl2-3 [ ] Mtn. View POP is accessible. IF YOUR EXCHANGE IS ONE OF THE FOLLOWING check the box below: (list that can call Univ) #pl3-3 [ ] Palo Alto POP is accessible. (Applies only if you checked "business phone service" above) #pb2-4 [ ] My business site is a local call from Palo Alto. #pb2-4 [ ] My business site is a local call from San Francisco. #pb4-4 [ ] My business site is not a local call from any TLG POP. ---------------- #!! MODEM There are many fine modems, and a few clunkers to avoid. There are so many choices of modems that we don't pretend to be up on them all. #m [X] I read and understand the modem related issues in the TLG FAQ sheet. #m [ ] I understand the business rate dial-back modem requirements. ---------------- #!! NSFNET ACCEPTABLE USE POLICY NSFnet Acceptable Use Policy (AUP) applies to all traffic to and through NSF-funded networks, not necessarily all of the Internet (and certainly not TLG portions of the network.) You can get a copy of the NSFnet AUP, as well as AUP's of other large internetworks, from ftp://nis.nsf.net/nsfnet/acceptable.use.policies/ #n [X] I understand the NSFnet Acceptable Use Policy. #n [ ] I understand which of my traffic NSFnet AUP applies to. #n [X] I agree to follow NSFnet AUP for my traffic crossing NSFnet. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is my situation: I want to go ahead and set up the connection/complete the DNS registration right away, and use my Mac IIx temporarily to connect to you. I then want to buy a machine to run UNIX on (Linux or FreeBSD very likely, but any suggestions would be appreciated) to run BIND on along with everything else. Does this sound reasonable, more or less? I've read most of the Nutshell Handbooks on this stuff, but any other sources you could recommend would also be appreciated. Thanks much, -Ian