From MSSANDERS@VAX1.UMKC.EDU Fri Jun 17 15:58:26 1994 Received: from VAX1.UMKC.EDU by fido.wps.com (8.6.5/wps.com-hackery) id IAA29698; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 08:57:36 -0700 Received: from VAX1.UMKC.EDU by VAX1.UMKC.EDU (PMDF V4.2-11 #4431) id <01HDN9XTSP5S9JDDJK@VAX1.UMKC.EDU>; Fri, 17 Jun 1994 10:57:11 CST Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 10:57:11 -0600 (CST) From: SEE HOW YOU ARE? Subject: well bless mah buttons To: deke@fido.wps.com Message-id: <01HDN9XTTI3M9JDDJK@VAX1.UMKC.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"deke@fido.wps.com" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Status: OR Guess who? Martha. Same ole. A message you sent to a list got forwarded to me. Wow. Where are you? I looked for you when I was in SF at the beginning of last month, to no avail. How goes it? :-) martha From deke Thu Jun 23 17:54:17 1994 Received: from localhost by fido.wps.com (8.6.5/wps.com-hackery) id KAA14073; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 10:53:01 -0700 From: deke (Deke Motif Nihilson) Message-Id: <199406231753.KAA14073@wps.com> Subject: Re: well bless mah buttons... To: MSSANDERS@VAX1.UMKC.EDU (SEE HOW YOU ARE?) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 10:53:00 -0700 (PDT) Cc: deke (Deke Motif Nihilson) In-Reply-To: <01HDN9XTTI3M9JDDJK@VAX1.UMKC.EDU> from "SEE HOW YOU ARE?" at Jun 17, 94 10:57:11 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1237 Status: OR ...but, if they're Precious Mao buttons being distributed to the Poor in the Region of Thud, they're already Blessed! > Guess who? > > Martha. Same ole. A message you sent to a list got forwarded to > me. Which one was that-- the Earth First! thing? > Wow. Indeed! Such a world we live in... > Where are you? I looked for you when I was in SF at > the beginning of last month, to no avail. How goes it? I'm in S.F. I just moved back here the day after May Day, cuz I got a job doing internet stuff. Pays pretty good, and I can do my own shit, too... you know how I get! I'm doing well. > :-) *;) What are you up to these days? Are you a hugger of trees? I'm a revolutionary anarchosyndicalist (just a bit redundant there); I'm involved in a lot of things, but most primarily I'm an organizer for the I.W.W. (Industrial Workers of the World), as I have been for the last coupla years. The revolution's coming right along, too. How's Kowtown Coty, MOE? Say "High" to folks for me, feel free to drop a line... Tell me what you're interested in, and I'll send along copies of any pertinent info I come across... For a world without bigots or bosses, your Big Fag friend --Deke Motif Nihilson "Ewige Blumenkraft!" From MSSANDERS@VAX1.UMKC.EDU Thu Jun 23 18:36:19 1994 Received: from VAX1.UMKC.EDU by fido.wps.com (8.6.5/wps.com-hackery) id LAA14160; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 11:36:17 -0700 Received: from VAX1.UMKC.EDU by VAX1.UMKC.EDU (PMDF V4.2-11 #4431) id <01HDVSF1HCBK9KMWJW@VAX1.UMKC.EDU>; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 13:35:52 CST Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 13:35:52 -0600 (CST) From: SEE HOW YOU ARE? Subject: DOING! To: deke@fido.wps.com Message-id: <01HDVSF1HVMA9KMWJW@VAX1.UMKC.EDU> X-VMS-To: DEKE MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Status: OR *********:-) * :-) * :-) * :-) * :-) * :-) * :-) *********************** I got two messages forwarded to me - one about a march (in SF I think, so I didn't quite get the directions) and yes, the Earth First one. My sister and my husband are both on that list...Ruth forwarded me the messages for your address. Here's the great irony - when we were out in CA, we had several things that we wanted to do but couldn't, as Eric's dad (who we were visiting) is the devil. I wanted to spend some time trying to track you down and Eric (hubby o mine) wanted to go visit the wobbly office. Two stones with one bird, it would've been. Eric is quite the syndacalist himself - I don't think he posts too much to the list, but he forwards some of the stuff to me. I don't do lists, you know how one's mailbox can get, and I don't have that much disk space. Anyway, he's working on his undergrad degree with intentions of law school, and labor and labor history are his main fields of interest. I'm in school full time too - I'm an English (journalism/creative writing) major, hmmm...most of the stuff that I'm doing is on sex and gender, although I've been putting on and off again two big projects on conceptions of socialism and feminism and socialism. I see Skye a lot - she's graduated and finishing up with summer school, and she might be staying with us through July and August, but her lease isn't up until then, so she's still in Lawrence. I keep in pretty regular touch with Mindy, she was just in town actually. She graduated from Antioch with a degree in video communications and she's working for the Austin Public Television, in Austin, amazingly enough. She seems pretty happy, she went through some pretty bad times towards the end of college, her girlfriend left her and she had a little crisis, but she seems like she's gotten it together. I guess Mikey is still in Joplin, the last I heard he was working in the restaurant at the (gasp) Precious Moments Chapel there. I see Jay at school sometimes, he's doing some math computer degree thing, nothing that I understand. Do you ever hear from Aaron? I wonder what happened to him. Sounds like you're happy - is it so? Actually, it just sounds like you. Not that you don't sound happy, but when I was reading that stuff Ruth forwarded to me, it was so YOU, I could hear your voice. I think that's a neat function of e mail in general - but this was a rattling, unexpected blast from the past, making it that much more cool. Deke in cyberspace. Who would've thunk it? hope to hear from you again, much love, martha From deke Thu Jun 23 19:10:16 1994 Received: from localhost by fido.wps.com (8.6.5/wps.com-hackery) id MAA14209; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 12:09:00 -0700 From: deke (Deke Motif Nihilson) Message-Id: <199406231909.MAA14209@wps.com> Subject: Re: DOING! To: MSSANDERS@VAX1.UMKC.EDU (SEE HOW YOU ARE?) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 12:09:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <01HDVSF1HVMA9KMWJW@VAX1.UMKC.EDU> from "SEE HOW YOU ARE?" at Jun 23, 94 01:35:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1407 Status: OR Wow... well, that's a lot you got going on there, gurleen! Married, school, travel... I'm gonna need time to digest it all. Mindy came out!!! (I always, secretly wondered...) Sounds like the boys are doing their ruts... Me, I don't know nothing bout nobody. Last contact I had with the old crew was when Ben and, um, Mike came through (they were *so* cute together, everyone thought they was fags...) I haven't seen Katie since I've been back in town. But Kook City has Precious Moments galore... as the techies say, "It's not a bug, it's a *feature*". That was some quick response there, hon. You must be really wired in. I'm usually around the terminal, slurping the Net as it were, M-F, 10 a.m. to 6 p.m. Pacific Whatever Time. The march thing was about the Queer March in S.F. It could have only come from a wobbly. I'm intrigued... if you could track down its route, it would be a cool thing to know. We're all closer than ever. Has anyone else come out of the proverbial closet? (I do the queer activist thing a lot, too. And clinic defense. And anarchist community-type stuff, too, but not so much the "lifestylist" stuff (like gatherings) so much anymore. And, and, and...) I'll be in touch, and am looking forward to likewise! *-) P.S. If you want mildly bombarded with propaganda 'n' things, you have but to say the word.... Yours for Optional Features! --th'Deke Motif From MSSANDERS@VAX1.UMKC.EDU Thu Jun 23 20:24:28 1994 Received: from VAX1.UMKC.EDU by fido.wps.com (8.6.5/wps.com-hackery) id NAA14515; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 13:24:27 -0700 Received: from VAX1.UMKC.EDU by VAX1.UMKC.EDU (PMDF V4.2-11 #4431) id <01HDVWNUCAPS9KN19I@VAX1.UMKC.EDU>; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 15:23:05 CST Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 15:23:04 -0600 (CST) From: SEE HOW YOU ARE? Subject: talk about quick responses! To: deke@fido.wps.com Message-id: <01HDVWNUD3NM9KN19I@VAX1.UMKC.EDU> X-VMS-To: DEKE MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Status: OR >From: IN%"deke@fido.wps.com" 23-JUN-1994 14:30:19.37 >To: IN%"MSSANDERS@VAX1.UMKC.EDU" >CC: >Subj: RE: DOING! >Wow... well, that's a lot you got going on there, gurleen! Married, >school, travel... >I'm gonna need time to digest it all. Mindy came out!!! (I always, >secretly wondered...) Sounds like the boys are doing their ruts... Wow! You really haven't heard from her. She's been 'out' for four years now! She had a longtime gal who left, mostly because Mindy is a dork. They lived with us for awhile, on a 4 month vacation from school. I miss Erica (her ex) a lot - she was very cool, if youngish. >Me, I don't know nothing bout nobody. Last contact I had with the old >crew was when Ben and, um, Mike came through (they were *so* cute >together, everyone thought they was fags...) I haven't seen Katie since >I've been back in town. But Kook City has Precious Moments galore... as >the techies say, "It's not a bug, it's a *feature*". Katie was in town right before my wedding - I didn't see her. My sister showed her a school picture of my stepdaughter and Katie reportedly said "Oh gross, what a stuck up little princess" (about a then-3-year-old no less), so that was about the last I wanted to see or hear of her. >That was some quick response there, hon. You must be really wired in. I'm >usually around the terminal, slurping the Net as it were, M-F, 10 a.m. to >6 p.m. Pacific Whatever Time. Yuppers. I'm doing transcripion for a living, so I take my breaks online... >The march thing was about the Queer March in S.F. It could have only come >from a wobbly. I'm intrigued... if you could track down its route, it >would be a cool thing to know. We're all closer than ever. Oh, I thought I did. Ruth is on the union lever list and she saw it and forwarded it to me. It was posted there, right? >Has anyone else come out of the proverbial closet? (I do the queer >activist thing a lot, too. And clinic defense. And anarchist >community-type stuff, too, but not so much the "lifestylist" stuff (like >gatherings) so much anymore. And, and, and...) Oh, a bunch of St Teresa girls have - but I don't think anyone you know. If by lifestylist you mean the 'let's have a community where everyone focuses on their individual issues of abuse' - GAG PUKE, I hope they get over it. KC gay and lesbian community is run by that philosophy...what sort of 'community' is that individually focused, that I don't know. :-) martha From deke Thu Jun 23 23:11:50 1994 Received: from localhost by fido.wps.com (8.6.5/wps.com-hackery) id QAA14705; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 16:11:31 -0700 From: deke (Deke Motif Nihilson) Message-Id: <199406232311.QAA14705@wps.com> Subject: Re: talk about quick responses! To: MSSANDERS@VAX1.UMKC.EDU (SEE HOW YOU ARE?) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 16:11:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <01HDVWNUD3NM9KN19I@VAX1.UMKC.EDU> from "SEE HOW YOU ARE?" at Jun 23, 94 03:23:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 754 Status: OR Oh, you're a *transcriber*! Well, thus the luxuriant responses. I type faster than I have any good cause to (just through sheer hack-hack-hackage), but not like that! Guess I can calm down about low long my responses are... So Ruth's on the lever.com mailing list. I know the guy who maintains that-- tiny little world after all. Is she a spectator, or does she get all bothered and active about this interest of hers? (I guess you know by now why I'm interested...) What else? A daughter. Again, Wow. I'm trying to picture you as a mommy (to something besides Graham, giggle giggle). Quite a trip, gal... Say hi to the Union part of your family for me. I hope I get to bother them about current activities-options... In Solidarity! --Deke From deke Thu Jun 23 23:11:50 1994 Received: from localhost by fido.wps.com (8.6.5/wps.com-hackery) id QAA14705; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 16:11:31 -0700 From: deke (Deke Motif Nihilson) Message-Id: <199406232311.QAA14705@wps.com> Subject: Re: talk about quick responses! To: MSSANDERS@VAX1.UMKC.EDU (SEE HOW YOU ARE?) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 16:11:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <01HDVWNUD3NM9KN19I@VAX1.UMKC.EDU> from "SEE HOW YOU ARE?" at Jun 23, 94 03:23:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 754 Status: OR Oh, you're a *transcriber*! Well, thus the luxuriant responses. I type faster than I have any good cause to (just through sheer hack-hack-hackage), but not like that! Guess I can calm down about low long my responses are... So Ruth's on the lever.com mailing list. I know the guy who maintains that-- tiny little world after all. Is she a spectator, or does she get all bothered and active about this interest of hers? (I guess you know by now why I'm interested...) What else? A daughter. Again, Wow. I'm trying to picture you as a mommy (to something besides Graham, giggle giggle). Quite a trip, gal... Say hi to the Union part of your family for me. I hope I get to bother them about current activities-options... In Solidarity! --Deke From MSSANDERS@VAX1.UMKC.EDU Thu Jun 23 23:30:30 1994 Received: from VAX1.UMKC.EDU by fido.wps.com (8.6.5/wps.com-hackery) id QAA14761; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 16:30:29 -0700 Received: from VAX1.UMKC.EDU by VAX1.UMKC.EDU (PMDF V4.2-11 #4431) id <01HDW3CZFB8G9KMT31@VAX1.UMKC.EDU>; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 18:29:49 CST Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 18:29:49 -0600 (CST) From: SEE HOW YOU ARE? Subject: itsy bitsy little world, ain't it? To: deke@fido.wps.com Message-id: <01HDW3CZFUIQ9KMT31@VAX1.UMKC.EDU> X-VMS-To: DEKE MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Status: OR >From: IN%"deke@fido.wps.com" 23-JUN-1994 18:11:29.30 >To: IN%"MSSANDERS@VAX1.UMKC.EDU" >CC: >Subj: RE: talk about quick responses! >So Ruth's on the lever.com mailing list. I know the guy who maintains >that-- tiny little world after all. Is she a spectator, or does she get >all bothered and active about this interest of hers? (I guess you know by >now why I'm interested...) I think that she and Eric are both spooks in the wings on that list. Actually, I don't know what she's doing activist - wise, she's in Colorado now, at CU Boulder, studying anthropology. >What else? A daughter. Again, Wow. I'm trying to picture you as a mommy >(to something besides Graham, giggle giggle). Quite a trip, gal... I'm the meanest mom in the world. :-) martha From deke Fri Jun 24 00:05:29 1994 Received: from localhost by fido.wps.com (8.6.5/wps.com-hackery) id RAA14818; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 17:00:29 -0700 From: deke (Deke Motif Nihilson) Message-Id: <199406240000.RAA14818@wps.com> Subject: yup... To: MSSANDERS@VAX1.UMKC.EDU (SEE HOW YOU ARE?) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 17:00:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <01HDW3CZFUIQ9KMT31@VAX1.UMKC.EDU> from "SEE HOW YOU ARE?" at Jun 23, 94 06:29:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1188 Status: OR > >So Ruth's on the lever.com mailing list. I know the guy who maintains > >that-- tiny little world after all. Is she a spectator, or does she get > >all bothered and active about this interest of hers? (I guess you know by > >now why I'm interested...) > > I think that she and Eric are both spooks in the wings on that list. > Actually, I don't know what she's doing activist - wise, she's in Colorado now, > at CU Boulder, studying anthropology. I'm having virtually-running conversation/mailings with you and the guy who does the 1-UNION mailing list today. > > >What else? A daughter. Again, Wow. I'm trying to picture you as a mommy > >(to something besides Graham, giggle giggle). Quite a trip, gal... > > I'm the meanest mom in the world. > > :-) > > martha Every single-digit-age human in the whole wide world has the meanest mom!!! *:) --Deke P.S. This is *so* rad. Like that silly little man who *raves* now (and lives in NorCal, no shit) once droned: "This is the world now: move a thing and the world moves, sit in a chair and pictures change..." Bonus points if you can identify the quote! But that's not to say *I'm* keeping score... From MSSANDERS@VAX1.UMKC.EDU Fri Jun 24 02:29:07 1994 Received: from VAX1.UMKC.EDU by fido.wps.com (8.6.5/wps.com-hackery) id TAA15080; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 19:29:07 -0700 Received: from VAX1.UMKC.EDU by VAX1.UMKC.EDU (PMDF V4.2-11 #4431) id <01HDW9RN8HY89KN4LF@VAX1.UMKC.EDU>; Thu, 23 Jun 1994 21:28:23 CST Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 21:28:23 -0600 (CST) From: SEE HOW YOU ARE? Subject: Re: yup... To: deke@fido.wps.com Message-id: <01HDW9RNA3TE9KN4LF@VAX1.UMKC.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"deke@fido.wps.com" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Status: OR DING! DING! DING! Timothy Leary at the River City Reunion. martha From deke Fri Jun 24 17:50:48 1994 Received: from localhost by fido.wps.com (8.6.5/wps.com-hackery) id KAA16218; Fri, 24 Jun 1994 10:49:33 -0700 From: deke (Deke Motif Nihilson) Message-Id: <199406241749.KAA16218@wps.com> Subject: Re: yup... To: MSSANDERS@VAX1.UMKC.EDU (SEE HOW YOU ARE?) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 10:49:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <01HDW9RNA3TE9KN4LF@VAX1.UMKC.EDU> from "SEE HOW YOU ARE?" at Jun 23, 94 09:28:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 458 Status: OR > > DING! DING! DING! > > Timothy Leary at the River City Reunion. > > > martha > Oh! (I had to go look at what I sent to figure this out! How time, among other things, flies...) Nope. Actually, it was that whacky Genesis P-Orrige, back in his naughty Throbbing Gristle days (say it slow, roll it under yer teeth a moment, Gri st le, that's a love... outRAGEously bad English accent helps the motif along to bed... heeheehee...) *:) --Deke