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From: bonnie frontino <75211.2515@compuserve.com>
To: Deke Motif Nihilson <deke@fido.wps.com>
Subject: worried mama
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Hi guy! Haven't heard from you in awhile, and you know how I get. Drop me a line

REAL soon. Am planting peas and potatoes in a.m. but should be home in the p.m.
as I have a shitload of seeds to be starting. Stay safe.       Love and
hugs.......bonnie


From deke@wps.com Wed Mar 22 00:07:00 1995
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From: Bob Helms <bhelms@netaxs.com>
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Subject: Helms requests Nelson will.
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Fellow and Sister Workers,

	I have noticed that, to be a Wobbly also means to make incessant 
references to the wills of Anderson and Nelson during life.  I would like 
very much to obtain a copy of these famous documents.  

I would like to propose a discussion group for the Assembly this 
september, entitled, "Wobblies and Wills: Are there meanings To Words?"
	The purpose of the workshop will be to determine whether the 
legacies have been used properly, squandered, or "whatever."
	The reading assignment for this workshop will be the two wills.  
Biographical material about the will writers would also be helpful and 
educative.  Who in this union can help me locate the material I seek?  
Please communicate with me ASAP if you can!

	By the way, I believe that Len Flank's lawyer should be paid in 
full, and that this should be done immediately.  

						In Solidarity, 

						Bob Helms X341465

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To: bhelms@netaxs.com (Bob Helms)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 01:41:54 -0800 (PST)
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> Fellow and Sister Workers,
> 
> 	By the way, I believe that Len Flank's lawyer should be paid in 
> full, and that this should be done immediately.  
> 
> 						In Solidarity, 
> 
> 						Bob Helms X341465

Lenny's posts lately have slaughtered any doubt I'd otherwise have, and 
FW Helms here catalyzes the obvious demands of simple justice. This 
cannot wait for a next monthly report; please consider it supplemental, 
it will be reflected in my next regular report. Please do the kindness of 
letting the GEBster nearest you know about it, and vote accordingly ASAP:

OFFICIAL BOARD MOTION, 21 March 1995 e.v.

DN8: The GEB of the IWW hereby compels and requires that the full legal 
expenses of FW Lenny Flank, X341341 L.V. GMB/Boulevard Bingo Dispute 
Delegate, be covered by the General Administration of the IWW, expenses 
in full to be paid from the Nelson funds and full authority of 
expenditures to be retained by FW Flank and such committee of members in 
good standing as he may gather around him, all decisions of which to be 
made by fully democratic vote (consensus recommended).



P.S. If that's too ostentatious for the full four votes decency demands 
of this board, I shall render it even more bluntly, and/or fully welcome and 
entertain (truly) Friendly Amendments. My aim is to be as clear as 
possible within the demands of the IMMEDIATE EMERGENCY. 

(If) SOLIDARITY (Means Anything),
Deke Motif Nihilson, X341697
of the Dick-Head GEB

Special P.S. :  Academic Quote Du Jour:

"Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish."  --Euripides


From kevin.brandstatter@bbsrc.ac.uk Wed Mar 22 02:25:54 1995
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PLEASE FORWARD TO ALL GEB MEMBERS; PRINT IN THE GOB; AND POST TO THE IWW-LIST


Dear fellow workers

In February UK members convened in Birmingham to consider IWW business.  One of
the issues which arose during discussion of the international report was the
attack on Lenny Flank by the Bosses of Boulevard Bingo.

Because I was privy to the circumstances surrounding Lenny's case I explained
briefly what had happened both to the Bingo Job Shop, the Contract, and the
legal attacks.

In conclusion the meeting unanimously agreed that Lenny be fully supported by
the IWW through the GEB ie:

That in recognition of the fact that FW Flank was being dragged through the
courts because of actions taken in defence and in support of an IWW dispute
between workers and bosses any legal
fees accruing in his defence be paid by the union.

In discussion it was made clear that any member attacked by the bosses must get
full physical, moral and legal support.  To be frank we will not tolerate any
thing less.  This goes for ANY member of the Union regardless of which
political group/faction or more importantly IU or branch they belong to.

I have spoken to other members of the union not present at the meeting and we
have circulated minutes.  This therefore is the collective view of the 60 UK
members of the union.

GEB PLEASE TAKE NOTE.

Kevin Brandstatter



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From: Bob Helms <bhelms@netaxs.com>
To: freevoice@igc.apc.org
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Subject: AIR TICKETS ARE LATE
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Hey josie...

	Bahman just called me and said that your hawai'i tickets have 
still not arrived at his place, and he was concerned that they may come 
too late to turn them around and get them to california in time for your 
flight.  I suppose the ticket vendors could be called, but what do I 
know?  
					Peace, Bob 

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 09:19:07 -0800 (PST)
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I would suggest that the will be reproduced in the GOB, if possible.
That way, everyone could see and study it in advance of the Assembly.
Mike B)
X334260

From josie@iww.org Wed Mar 22 11:48:06 1995
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Hi Deke,
	So what do you want me to do with Fletcher?  I'm getting my sea legs here, and I'm about ready to start.  I will probably need something like root access, though, because I really can't do much without it, it seems.   Send me a specific list if you can of what you want me to work on, and where I might find documentation, if possible.
	Also, Judi Bari is tonight, right?  What do you want to do there?
	Josie, x341890
	slang-genetal head (gender neutral)

From josie@iww.org Wed Mar 22 12:20:40 1995
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Subject: another test
To: deke@fletcher.iww.org (X341697)
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Hi Deke, 
	according to your wall clock its 10:29 am, but if you ask me its 
actually about 12:18 pm on Wed.
	Just got Pico working on elm, Woopie!!
	Solidarity, (in non-gendered fashion)
	Josie, x341890

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Staunching the Hemorhage:  Financial Planing for the IWW

Seeing the Nelson and Anderson wills is an important initative on the 
part of the membership.  It is important to determine wether we are in 
compliance with the terms of those wills.  Fred, can you provide us 
interested members with these documents?  If not, who can?  

The last audit commitee report suggested that there is no mechanism for 
budgeting in the union.  This is a serious lack.  The office and the IW 
are apparently spending loads of money on deficit.  At the current rate 
of spending the Nelson and Anderson funds will be dry in a few years.  
This is a fact that many Wobs have pointed to with alarm.  Action is 
required. 

I would like officers and GEB members and any other interested members to 
explain what sorts of financial planning would make sense to them.  For 
now, please post your responses to the list, later we can sumarize and 
open this discussion in the GOB.  Your response need not be long, as I 
know we are all busy people.  

The idea of spending caps for each of the major union expenditures is one 
idea on how to proceed.  This way, the office or the songbook would have 
x number of dollars to spend in a fiscal year, and any money above that 
could be raised through assessment or other fundraising.  The idea being 
that if membership truly values a service, we will find ways to pay for 
it.  

I look forward to hearing your responses.

Solidarity,

Corin.
x343030



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From deke@wps.com Wed Mar 22 15:33:21 1995
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Proposal for Improving the General Organziation Bulletin 

The poor GOB has been much maligned and undervalued.  There have been 
those who suggest it be sacrificed.  But wheras internal comunication is 
crucial to good decision making, the GOB is therefore indispensable.  We 
must have ways to keep in touch with each other, to share our news, our 
proposals & discussion.  We must all be well informed about the state of 
our union.  And we must have a forum for strategizing how we're going to 
reclaim the title One Big Union.  

Many Wobs have complained that the GOB does a poor job as an internal 
communication forum.  Some even call the GOB, "...our best member loosing 
strategy".  Folks are saying that the GOB is ugly, hard to read, and full 
of pointless bickering.  Surely this situation must be remedied if the GOB 
is to help us communicate to improve our union.

Folowing are some proposed changes intended to revitalize the GOB:

1)  Retyping and Formatting Submissions:  

As it is now, the GOB is composed of mailed submissions which have been 
duplicated and reduced.  Submissions end up fuzzy, misalligned, teeny, and 
eye-straining to read.  I propose the GOB worker go to the trouble to 
enter submission into the computer and lay them out using a word processor 
or page layout program.  This would result in clean text that is much 
easier to read.  An inexpensive hand scanner and it's accompanying Optical 
Character Recognition software would make this process much easier, as 
would e-mail submission of GOB text.  

2)  Organizing the GOB by Subject & including a Table of Contents:

The GOB is a haphazard mishmash of topics which is does not read easily.  
I propose that the GOB be clearly organizied by subject headings, and 
include a table of contents.  Aside from making the GOB easier to read, it 
shows that there has been care and coordination behind the GOB.  This may 
make new members feel better about the union because it gives them a sense 
that the union has a clear structure that is open and accomodating.  

Folowing is a sample GOB Table of Contents page:
------------------------------------------------

General Organization Bulletin--May 1995--Table of Dis(contents)

General Organization Reports
	General Secretary Treasurer Chase
	General Executive Board
	Industrial Worker Editor
	Audit Committe 
	Conflict Resolution Board

Local Branch Reports
	Hawaii:  Our fabulous organizing
	Lehigh Valley:  So you think it's time to pay our lawyers?  Bingo!
	Santa Cruz:  Our recent branch retreat.
	Seattle:  Hellchicks destroy local ruling class
	Philidelphia:  Ben Fletcher Center, financial report, & more

Proposals, Discussion & Debate
	Financial Planning
		Proposal for spending caps -Michael Baukunin
		Spending caps suck!	-Dennis Banks
		Let the money run out and then the'll see -Geordi La Forge
	
	Organizing Manual:  Draft ready for comment

	Making the Union Relevant to Non-White Workers  -Liz Claiborne
		
	Granting Money to Lehigh Valley
		We need it now!!  -Len Flank	
		Money should not be wasted on long court battles -Frank N. Furter
		Here's my GEB proposal 4 U -Prince 
		
	Excerpt & Discussion: Bell Hooks "Feminist Theory From Margin To Center"

News & Announcements

	Come to our Labor Summit
	
	Wobs Attend Bill Bailey Funeral

	Alert!  New Secretary of Labor gutting Wagner Act

-------------------------------------------------

3)  Policy for Including E-mail in the GOB

	I propose that only those messages on the IWW-list which are marked 
for the GOB be included.  Much of the discussion on the list is back and 
forth which would not come accross very well in a print medium like the 
GOB.  However it is vital that e-mail discussion be represented in the 
GOB, so I suggest that participants write synopses, or statements for the 
GOB after carrying on e-mail discussion.  Or just write on the list in 
such a way that it will also sound good in the GOB

4)  Tone and Content of the GOB

	Many are turned off by the constant fruitless bickering that the GOB 
hosts.  If we are to utilize the GOB for strategizing how to reclaim our 
title as the One Big Union, then those who submit to the GOB must examine 
them to ensure that the text is constructive and respectful, not just 
spiteful and bitter.  Anger should be welcomed, but keep it respectful.  

5)  Size of GOB

	The GOB is presently 5 1/2 by 8 1/2 which is too small.  Perhaps we 
could use legal size paper which would be 7 by 8 1/2 which is a fuller 
looking booklet.  another choice would be to use full unfolded letter 
sized sheets.  Since text will be formatted and printed, we should 
actually be saving paper with a larger sized sheet, rather than loosing 
it.  

6)  Abreviation Glossary

	Many abreviations are used in the GOB: GOB, GST, IU, IW, GMB, GEB, 
WSA, IGC, etc.  Many members especially new ones do not know what these 
are.  A glossary should clarify these terms for everyone.  This can just 
be a half a page in the back or something.  

I realize that these proposals will mean more work for the GST or whoever 
assembles the GOB.  I would certanly be willing to help with production if 
the GST could send me all the letters, I could print it up and send them 
back.  There's no reason we can't distribute the work more evenly.  

I want to hear back on this proposal certainly from Fred, and the GEB 
members and any interested members.  Please post your responses to the 
whole list, not just me personally.

In soldiarity

Corin.


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From deke Wed Mar 22 15:35:47 1995
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Um, I'm terribly afraid I've exposed you to body lice, as well as Peter J 
and Michael Reinsborough. I'm real unhappy about it, issues related to my 
re-exposure as well as the impact of this on my community. Like, just 
what I needed right now in my life...

Could you clue in PJ and MR, as you have more chance to do so than I? Do 
let them know I'm eating loads of shit (and a *fourth* dose of DDT in 
this calendar year   *:{   over it?!?

Thanx and sorry,

Itchy and Scratchy, Party of One,
--Deke

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To: JimDBill@aol.com
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 15:53:00 -0800 (PST)
Cc: sciww@wps.com (Santa Cruz IWW), maile@wps.com (Maile Pickett),
        vad@wps.com (Crys-Vad Hyphus), deke@wps.com (Deke Motif Nihilson),
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> 
> Hi.  I'm Jim Bill, a women's clinic defender in the San Jose area.
> 
> I've been sending out reports about anti choice activity at our local
> clinics, and other information, for some time.
> 
> I'm not sure who "sciww" is.  Is there anyone one at this e-mail address who
> is reading the reports that I send or who needs (or wants) to receive these
> reports?
> 
> It would be kind of nice to have the full name of someone at this e-mail
> address, if that is possible.  Is this person involved in clinic defense?  Is
> this  address in Santa Cruz, as I suspect?
> 
> I'm going to remove the "sciww" address from my list temporarily.  When I
> hear back who is getting the reports and that the reports are still wanted,
> I'll put you back on my list and send the reports again.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jim Bill 
> 

	YO Jim Bill!
			The fullest name you're gonna get from me is 
Peter Jay.  The account is a project of the Santa Cruz IWW General 
Membership Branch and a number of people use and check postings on it 
irregularly--they can all speak for themselves.  I would miss getting 
your posting--tho' I am not currently defending a clinic, I have in the 
past and will in the future be on the line.  If ya want to check me out 
futher I was on the line at Los Gatos, Summer'93, when they hit it.  I am 
a Wobbly and sometimes a Refuse&Resister.  Wassup w/ you and Clinic 
Defense in San Jose?  Just remember, there are few secure channels for 
e-mail.  Anything else ya want or need?

			LOVE&
			soli,
			peterj

 "An injury to one, is an injury to all."

From deke@wps.com Wed Mar 22 16:11:45 1995
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 95 16:08:44 PST
From: Corin Royal Drummond <newt@cruzio.com>
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Hey Fire Ant,

I was just going through my mail and I found your your message about IWW 
support for Zapatistas and activist unions.  You ask good questions.  And I 
agree with you that the IWW should be active in support of the kinds of groups 
you outlined.  

In Santa Cruz we are having a branch retreat soon, and one of the agenda items 
will be reaching out to local labor groups.  There is a lot of Latino 
farmworker organizing in this area, and our branch needs to be in touch with 
FW's in those organizations.  We should be writing articles for the IW and GOB 
about the organizing these groups are doing.  Or at the very least, reprinting 
articles about these groups.  

Tsunami is a new IWW publication which may have more of the kind of articles 
you are looking for.  If you are a delegate you probably already got one, if 
not, write to the Philidelphia GMB and the'll send it out.  They're asking a 
donation of twenty cents per copy to help cover costs.  

The question of members maintaining editorial control of the IW is an 
interesting one.  John, could you explain the IW's editorial policy to us?

As far as supporting other activist unions, again this is a Do It Yourself 
kind of point.  I am willing to work on this and since you are, that makes 
two.  Actually many wobs are interested in supporting other organizing, so 
it's just up to us to report back to the larger union.  

Your letter get's me thinking.  What ideas do you have for improving the 
union's response on these issues?

Solidarity,

Corin.



fire ant collective writes:
> 
> 	Wob's!
> 	I saw a tantalizing bit of news on T.V. the other day, and I 
> wonder if any of you can shed any light...I was watching the Japanese 
> news on cable and they showed a violent labor dispute of some kind in 
> Alabama, with a large group of black and white workers fighting with a 
> bunch of Alabama St. Troopers, and holding up signs that said "Industrial 
> Unions"!  Nothing in any other press, and I don't speak Japanese...if any 
> of y'all know anything about that please send me an email.  
> 	I'm also curious if somebody can fill me in on this phenomenon a 
> little: a whole lot of militant independant, radical unions seem to be 
> springing up all over the country, in sectors such as service, 
> janatorial, sheetrocking, other zones of the economy traditionally 
> ignored by all those bad business unions.  Why isn't the IWW forming any 
> contacts with these unions, we seem to actively support the locked out 
> workers at Staley, and got all interested in the newspaper strike in 
> S.F., but I don't see any attempt to get us in touch with what seems to 
> be a new activity in the radical arm of labor...is that considered boring 
> from within or something?  I think an IWW presence would be useful when 
> people are casting about for a new way of defending workers rights and 
> are finally beginning to realize that traditional craft unions are bullshit.
> 	I'm also hoping if someone can explain why our proposal to send 
> some money to the Zapatistas was shot down, and why the IWW has been so 
> relativley unsupportive of the Zapatisas as far as even just distributing 
> the latest news about them in the IW or in any way getting involved with 
> the grass-roots support of the EZLN and the broad movement for real 
> grass-roots democracy in Mexico, all over Mexico.  I mean, can somebody 
> lay out the argument for this aloofness?
> 	On of the reasons that I am confused is that in just about every 
> significant modern IWW pamphlet I've read, and certainly in every single 
> "Industrial Worker" and issue of Bekkens "Libertarian Labor Review", I see 
> inspiring sounding calls for people to resist the world bank, to rize up 
> against the exploitation of the forces of international Capitalism, to 
> take to the streets in response to GATT, and NAFTA, and the EEC etc.  So 
> now that we see the peasants in Chiapas and all over Mexico essentially 
> in direct warfare with Chase Bank and all of the theoretical enemies of 
> OUR cause, the IWW seems uninterested...the IW seems to only grudgingly 
> agnkowlege their existance, and the last issue of LLR I read, though 
> quite good in general, left out all mention of the situation in Chiapas, 
> almost as if they were part of the same frustrating news blackout that 
> persists in all the mainstream North American media.
> 	I know that in the past the IWW assisted Mexican anarchist and 
> radical labor groups in cross-border labor disputes with anaconda steel 
> and against the Mexican government...Is that sort of real-world activity 
> just outside the realm of the modern IWW?  Are we just some sort of 
> argument group for syndicalist "purism", do we intend to play any real 
> role in the struggles of humanity or are we just here to stab each other 
> in the back
> 	A lot of the fellow workers who have helped to keep 
> this union alive have recieved, perhaps to some degree undeserved, a 
> reputation for resisting innovation and development in the union through 
> overzealous fiscal conservatism and bureacratic rigidity.  I'd like to 
> give you folks the benefit of the doubt, but I want to hear what you DO 
> support, what you DO think the IWW should be doing...we already know what 
> you seem to think is wrong for our union. 
> 	Eagerly awaiting encourgaing feedback from the wonderful world of 
> wobblies, 
> 
> 	fire @nts
> 
> .-
> 


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From deke@wps.com Wed Mar 22 16:20:50 1995
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I'm amenable to having the membership of e-mail participants checked 
quarterly (or not, if it proves too burdensome).  

I like the suggestions regarding ways to make the general 
organizing bulletin more readable and more organized.

I don't know if there are other WOBS in town here; I've randomly run into 
a few people who have said that family members had been WOBS or that they 
used to be part of a WOB shop in town (that has since evidently gone by 
the wayside) or (in one case) someone asking directions indicated that he 
too was a current member.  I usually hear from people who see me wearing 
the button.  I've sold a few Industrial Workers and one calendar on 
consignment at a local coffee shop that sells books and magazines.  I 
talked with a couple of people at the local Kinko's regarding management 
attempts to withhold information that had been faxed from the duplication 
network.  I think my primary interest in doing some exploratory work for 
orgainizing, though, is in the area of self-employed 
artists/craftspeople.  My partner is a ceramics artists and we have 
several friends who do everything from jewelry to photography to writing 
stories and poetry to singing/songwriting.  Are any of you in these 
areas?  If so, what experiences have you had working together with other 
artists/craftspeople?  I'm particularly interested in how artists and 
craftspeople can leverage their relationship with retailers who might 
purchase or consign their work.

Larry S. Williams

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***
> I don't know if there are other WOBS in town here; I've randomly run into 
***
> 
> Larry S. Williams
> 

Cool, good to hear from ya Larry. Where's "in town" to you?

Soli,
Deke

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From: Bob Helms <bhelms@netaxs.com>
To: Corin Royal Drummond <newt@cruzio.com>
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Subject: Re: Proposal to Redesign the GOB
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Corin,
	My first thought on the redesign of the GOB proposal is that it's 
too labor-intensive, but the reason I'm responding is because I disagree 
with the "Tone and Content" part.
	For one thing, the union must be friendly to people with little 
or no education, and that means that they'll say whatever pops into thier 
head, sometimes full of foul and abusive language, and everyone responds 
however they like.  To delete a piece for its tone would mean that the 
restrictions placed on the Industrial Worker's content were being 
extended to all channels of the union's communication.  Suppose the GST 
was a nonviolence activist, whose definitions of violence were very 
broad.  You send in a letter that you have toned down as far as you can, 
and do not have any extremist intensions or anything like that.  The 
letter is nixed, and the reason given seems like it's coming from the 
Gandhian colony on Mars.  the argument is kept between you and the GST, 
and the GST wins the argument.  I feel that no restrictions at all should 
go on the GOB's tone and content, and this should remain absolute.  If 
some people are turned off, that's better than if the whole union were to 
be handed a sterilized bulletin, so that there was no way for them to 
learn the actual personality of the union.  
	When people are not able to vent thier anger, they will become 
more angry.  Often they heve good reasons to be angry, and to get very 
personal, and to threaten hostile actions.  Any established control can 
be skillfully manipulated, and will be manipulated by whomever handles 
the thing.


			Yours in Bloodthirsty but "nice" Solidarity,

				Bob Helms  X341465

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I'm writing from Eugene, Oregon.

Larry.

On Wed, 22 Mar 1995, Deke Motif Nihilson wrote:

> Cool, good to hear from ya Larry. Where's "in town" to you?
> 
> Soli,
> Deke
> 

From deke@wps.com Wed Mar 22 16:51:20 1995
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I'm writing from Eugene, Oregon.

Larry.

On Wed, 22 Mar 1995, Deke Motif Nihilson wrote:

> Cool, good to hear from ya Larry. Where's "in town" to you?
> 
> Soli,
> Deke
> 

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Perhaps it would make sense for list members to get in the habit of including 
their location in their signatures.  This would provide new list members with 
more context on the people writing.  

Soli,

Corin.
Santa Cruz GMB


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From deke@wps.com Wed Mar 22 17:20:12 1995
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On Wed, 22 Mar 1995, Bob Helms wrote:

> with the "Tone and Content" part.
> 	For one thing, the union must be friendly to people with little 
> or no education, and that means that they'll say whatever pops into thier 
> head, sometimes full of foul and abusive language, and everyone responds 
> however they like.  To delete a piece for its tone would mean that ...
> 
I haven't had time to study Corin's proposal yet.  I'm all in favor of
making the GOB as accessible as possible.  I'm opposed to editing or
censoring, if you will, the GOB.  Why?
It violates one of my principles, namely that the working class must
make the revolution themselves, for themselves consciously.  They
will not be able to do this, if their fellow workers are "protecting"
them from each others' views; however distasteful they may be.         
Mike B)
X334260

Don't just criticize; get yourself organized in the One Big Union.
Join the Wobblies! e-mail the IWW:  iww@igc.apc.org









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> Deke!
> 	I got a message from Josi stating a new address... x341890@iww.org...
> and it came right back to me.
> 				what's up?

If I could answer that question, it wouldn't be happening!!!   *:)
You see the rub...

I sent out a First Greeting last night, to iww-list from my account at 
fletcher.iww.org, but it didn't go through. Can't tell if that was a 
fluke, or something's really broken, or the intercession of a deific 
entity watchin' my back (faux-vitrolic little piece, it was-- imagine!!!  
*:) or if it's still going to show up fabulously in everyone's mailbox 
shortly, or longly, or what...

At least part of the problem seems to be a bug in the software as 
shipped, far from unusual in a .0 release-- ah! The price of being a 
guinea pig on the cutting edge... eeeek!

ANYway-- not just I'm busting my ass to get this thing up and running, 
fortunately! But I was on it til 3 a.m. last night, and that's sorta the 
way it's going. Josie'll be lending a hand, as are the folx I work with. 
It's all confused by the fact that sometimes it works, and sometimes not, 
for tech reasons I won't go into here. 

For now, try this:  use the FQDN (that's Fully Qualified Domain Name) on 
any mail you send to him or me, thusly:  To:  deke@fletcher.iww.org

and let's see if that won't turn the trick.

Sincerely in Soli and from the point of production,
Deke

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To: bhelms@netaxs.com, deke@wps.com (Deke Motif Nihilson), newt@cruzio.com,
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there's a program in the TCP/IP suite, BTW, called "IRC" which is a way 
to interactively "chat" in pairs and groups. It's a little easier to 
converse than the e-mail protocols allow, and if someione can figure out 
its parameters and implementations, or even where to get clues on such, I 
think running IRC on iww.org may be a real win for our team (that's 
industry talk, BTW... the language of conformity, all too often. Not here 
though!   *:)

Anyway, howdy!  Just thought I'd point out what I see going on, from my 
mailbox...

Soli,
--Deke

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Folowing are some commonly used abreviations in the IWW:

GST-General Secretary Treasurer  
GEB-General Executive Board
IW- Industrial Worker (the newspaper of the IWW)
IU- Industrial Union
GOB-General Organization Bulletin (our internal communication forum)
GMB-General Membership Branch
OBU-One Big Union 
GHQ-General Headquarters
GA- General Administration 

Soli,

Corin.
Santa Cruz GMB


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Are *you* my forest...

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From: Bob Helms <bhelms@netaxs.com>
To: Corin Royal Drummond <newt@cruzio.com>
cc: iww list <iww-list@fido.wps.com>
Subject: Re: Abreviations Glossary
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BUT "GA" also can mean "General Assembly."   Context, folks!

On Wed, 22 Mar 1995, Corin Royal Drummond wrote:

> Folowing are some commonly used abreviations in the IWW:
> 
> GST-General Secretary Treasurer  
> GEB-General Executive Board
> IW- Industrial Worker (the newspaper of the IWW)
> IU- Industrial Union
> GOB-General Organization Bulletin (our internal communication forum)
> GMB-General Membership Branch
> OBU-One Big Union 
> GHQ-General Headquarters
> GA- General Administration 
> 
> Soli,
> 
> Corin.
> Santa Cruz GMB
> 
> 
> -- 
> ===: corin royal drummond :============: newt@cruzio.com :===: herbalist :===
> ===:                                                     :===: anarchist :===
> ===: health care necesitates revolutionary social change :===: wanderer  :===
> 

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Hey dewd!
We're (CUNY students) taking over the brooklyn bridge Thu. morning :-)! and
Friday, Newt is coming for a power breakfast! He dares to show himself here,
a few thousand of us will give him a real NY welcome... cool queer-punk show
@ Knitting Fac. Fri nite... I think I like NY again. gotta' run, See Ya
Love & spit,
John-Fredrick

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Deke - 
Please suscribe me to the IWW-List. (x341369).  Also I would like to ask if
you would be interested or able to come to Salt Lake and speak on labor
issues and gays.  The ralley will be held Sat. April 29.  We will also have a
private party Sunday for all Wobblies and will end the May Day Celibration
with a concert with Utah Phillips & Rosalie Sorrels on Mon. May 1 at 7:00 pm.
 If you are interested please get back with me.

Any and all wobs are invited.  We do need to know about housing arrangements.
 As it stands right now we have about 18 people coming in from out of town.

In Solidarity
Jenn

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Fred,
Could you publish this note in the GOB?
Mike
P.S.
Could someone please send Fred info on how to get on 
the member only listserv so that it too might be published
in the GOB?  If both of these things have already been
done, thanks and disregard this message.
Mike B)
X334260




Fellow Workers,
These are the latest addresses for Spunk Press:

		@

	S P U N K  P R E S S

Spunk Press is an electronic archive of anarchist and related materials.
It is available on the internet as follows:

to ftp: etext.archive.umich.edu		/pub/Politics/Spunk	

to WWW: http://www.cwi.nl/cwi/people/Jack.Jansen/spunk/Spunk_Home.html

to gopher: gopher etext.archive.umich.edu
Also
  WWW catalogue:  http://www.cwi.nl/cwi/people/Jack.Jansen/spunk/Catalog.html
To receive regular information about Spunk Press, subscribe to our
information mailing list by sending a message to 
spunk-info-request@lysator.liu.se
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For the works!
Mike Ballard
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From: Michael Ballard <miballar@leland.Stanford.EDU>
To: Deke Motif Nihilson <deke@wps.com>
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        newt@cruzio.com, Larry Williams <larry_w@efn.org>
Subject: Re: Hey! Looks like we're *all* online right now...
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Deke,

I know that Jamal has used this technology.  He's at jamal@bronze
I can't remember the last part.  If you don't remember either, I can
go through my files and try to find it.
Mike B)

Don't just criticize; get yourself organized in the One Big Union.
Join the Wobblies! e-mail the IWW:  iww@igc.apc.org









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Fred, 
Please include the folowing in the back of the next GOB.  
Thanks,
Corin.


Commonly Used Abreviations in the IWW
=====================================
FW-  Fellow Worker (generally considered gender inclusive)
SW-  Sister Worker (to be totally clear)
IW-  Industrial Worker (the newspaper)
IU-  Industrial Union
GOB- General Organization Bulletin
GMB- General Membership Branch
GOC- General Organizing Committee
GST- General Secretary Treasurer
GEB- General Executive Board
GA-  Either General Assembly or General Administration (context)
GHQ- General Headquarters
OBU- One Big Union 
=====================================



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deke, hey pallyboy it's dan in philly, i got into town last week & 
thought i better write. i still am planning on sending you that sculpture 
so let me know if that address is still ok to send it to. whats up w/ the 
new yr's eve police raid, are you all getting anywhere w/ that?
i'm hoping to get out to sf for the fnb confab,but im trying to get this 
job so i might not be able to go if i get it. its a real 9-5 job where id 
be making a buttload of money so i kindof want it, they're all fags and 
activists so it's better than other jobs. 
the philly wobs are trying to get this union hall all in shape for the 
wobbly confab this fall, i told kim id help out if they want it,so 
hopefully it'll fixed up before to long. im also trying to arrange 
housing for queer wobblies, so we'll see. 
time to go, hopefully i'll see you at the fnb or anar gatherings,take 
care & stay fabulous!!!!

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Hi Deke,
	A few weeks ago I had an exchange with Rob Kelley from Phoenix.
(robkel@primenet.com).  He wanted the union's position on gays and lesbians.  I
told him gays and lesbians had served as delegates, branch chairs, organizers,
negotiators, board members, and workers in General Headquarters; and that in '84
we had what we believe was the first clause in a contract protecting workers
with HIV and AIDS which was considered a "gay disease" back then.  I said that
we don't discriminate against anyone except bosses.
	Guess it was good enough.  His membership application and a year's
minimum dues arrived yesterday.  I had also suggested he contact you.  His
letter today said he had tried, but had gotten no response.  If you can find the
time to welcome him, I think he'll appreciate it.

	Different thread:  I received a bill for $25 from TLGnet for part-time
modem PPP/SLIP monthly service fee.  It was addressed to SF IWW and forwarded
here by the postoffice. Franklin said today that he had gotten one for the
previous month.  He said they don't have a modem.  Do you know what this is for,
and whether it's owed by SF or GHQ?  Please let me know so I can pay it or send
it back to the SF office.

				Regards,

				  Fred 


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> 	A few weeks ago I had an exchange with Rob Kelley from Phoenix.
> (robkel@primenet.com).  He wanted the union's position on gays and lesbians.  I

I'll add him to iww-list directly.

> told him gays and lesbians had served as delegates, branch chairs, organizers,
> negotiators, board members, and workers in General Headquarters; and that in '84
> we had what we believe was the first clause in a contract protecting workers
> with HIV and AIDS which was considered a "gay disease" back then.  I said that
> we don't discriminate against anyone except bosses.

Dig it. I had the same concerns when I joined. We do a damn good job of 
inclusion-- hey, let's give ourselves credit where due! Feel free to 
mention the End-Up victory in this context as well-- we earned it!  *:)

> 	Guess it was good enough.  His membership application and a year's
> minimum dues arrived yesterday.  I had also suggested he contact you.  His
> letter today said he had tried, but had gotten no response.  If you can find the
> time to welcome him, I think he'll appreciate it.

No, I haven't heard from him. I'll be glad to respond to anything he 
sends me, just as I do any FW, with obvious common interest to sustain 
the contact (I mean identity on top of class, "class and kind" as some 
visionary so succinctly put it in a labor song he wrote). Unfortunately, 
my schedule precludes extensive or initiative correspondence (even my 
mama hasta bother me about it  *:)  I tell her the truth-- this damn 
Union keeps me busy! and there's other things too, of course...)

> 	Different thread:  I received a bill for $25 from TLGnet for part-time
                  ^^^^^^ Our GST knows netspeak! How many Unions can 
boast similarly?

> modem PPP/SLIP monthly service fee.  It was addressed to SF IWW and forwarded
> here by the postoffice. Franklin said today that he had gotten one for the
> previous month.  He said they don't have a modem.  Do you know what this is for,
> and whether it's owed by SF or GHQ?  Please let me know so I can pay it or send
> it back to the SF office.

Oh, that. I was hopin' that would slide... sigh. Punt it back to 
Franklin. I'll speak with him about it-- it's intended to be a perk of 
control at the point of production. I set those accounts up as a part of 
my job... Those bills aren't intended to be paid! I thought it had ste. 
616 on it though... hmm. Do you get other branch mail, or mail to 616? 
I'll look into it on the TLG end... meanwhile, if Tom's actually harsh 
enough to yank it, I'll just make another! Direct Action gets the kitty 
fed...

Meanwhile, how about Cory's proposals? I like 'em. That abbr. guide's 
sure gonna help on the new-member-with-first-GOB scene, I can tell!

Well, gotta fly-- more later! BTW, I think I may have an more holistic 
solution to the "mailing list" thing, but, it's still in debug mode...

Soli,
--Deke

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Aloha:

It's deja-vu!  Larry, I reckon that if you put your address in the 
Industrial Worker as a contact in Eugene (email Bekken and he'll get it 
in) you'll find a lot of folks.  That's the way we all got together.  
Back in '92, there was one Wob here, officially.  FW Goldsmith got a PO 
box, put it in the IW (with his home phone), and we've been growing ever 
since.  Still works on occasion.

Corin, this might be an addition to the GOB, eh?  For those FWs wishing 
to avoid the occasional looney by not listing their address or phone 
number in the IW, the GOB may the place.  Well, maybe :-).  By the way, I 
like your ideas for the GOB with FW Helms' caveats.

Getting back to the matter at hand, I reckon we could also do a 
phone/address  book of members (after getting approval from each!), though 
that may be unnecessarily complex.  Deke, is there a way to do a 
directory on the iww-news and/or iww-list for FWs in FW Williams' situation?

The thought has occurred to me to run a classified in the personals section 
local "scene" newspaper:

	LONELY RADICAL LABOR UNION SEEKS . . . 

A hui hou,

Pete Wilcox
O'ahu IWW GMB

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To: Corin Royal Drummond <newt@cruzio.com>
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Aloha Corin and All:

Yeah, its time we put some planning together.  I'd really like to know 
what it costs to run GHQ and the IW annually.  But let's not stop there.  

I put some ideas together awhile back for the GOB, but I'm not sure it 
ever got to GHQ.  Pardon me if I'm being redundant.  Let's talk money.
We need to get a lot better at fundraising if we're going to survive.  
Knowing how much we need is the first step.  What could we do, let's see:

	Lotsa musicians, at least used to be.  How 'bout Wobtour '95 
	(Wobbapalooza?).  Moreover, how many bands could we recruit into 
	the union if we had such events?  By the way, does Buskers' Rag still 
	exist?

	Someone suggested some time ago in the GOB that we produce logo 
	items.  My retail slut heart would sure get a kick out of seeing Wobbly 
	jackets/hats/etc. be the new fashion rage among the rave crowd (i.e., 
	my students).  Any thoughts on producing or licensing?

	Get intellectual property fees from non-members writing about our 
	history, and perhaps put a contribution jar (a big, obvious one) in the 
	entrance to the archive room at Wayne State with a stack of the 
	most recent IW.  Do we have any of "our" folks working there?

	Produce a compilation volume of IWW history for university use, 
	with all royalties going to the IWW.  Those of us who teach could then 
	require the text in our classes.  Evil, I know.  We could do a 
	film too, and this IS our 90th anniversary (whatever happened to 
	Patrick Murfin?).

	We need to do some serious thinking about funding the IW.  I 
	think it's something we need, although we need to add both more IWW 
	news and more world labor news.  It wouldn't hurt if it came out more 
	often, either.  All this requires both staff and bucks though.  Last
	summer a looney Trot group called the Workers League sold me one of
	their papers in Minneapolis.  Not much on content.  Looked real nice, 
	though!  Color type, color photos, lotsa news laid out well.  How 
	do they do it?  They must be about 30 members total nationwide.
	One thing they do, as evidenced by this encounter, is actively 
	sell the thing -- particularly subs (no I didn't!).  Did I 
	mention that their paper is a WEEKLY?

	We also need to press national funding sources.  When we did our 
	"Some Wobbly Proposals for Hawai'i" brochure, we went to the Peoples' 
	Fund, our local representative of the Funding Exchange (FEX - a 
	nationwide organization that raises money and gives it back out to 
	grassroots organizations).  They paid for all printing fees (about 
	$300).  I'll try to get an address list on the net.  Who else can we 
	hit up?

I reckon that there's also stuff we could do individually in our spare time.	
Something that I've got cooking:  sell stamps.  No, not just to each 
other.  Everyone complains how we're just a bunch of stamp collectors, 
eh?  Me, I'm a philatelist (oh stop!).  Last year I gathered a bunch 
of old assessment stamps, did up a little flyer, put an ad in Linn's 
Stamp News, and sold over $200 worth (at their face value).  It was a test, 
and it worked pretty well.  Kinda time-consuming though -- something for 
my summer doldrums.  I'd like to do it again, but I need a larger 
variety of old assessment (and even old dues stamps -- I cancel them so they 
can't be used) stamps.  I'll be sending out a copy of the flyer to all the 
Groups and GMBs I have addresses for soon.  I hope that those of you who have 
stamps that I don't show on the flyer will send at least some of them to me.  
I'm also going to add the local stamps that have been popping up lately 
(Philly, Salt Lake and Santa Cruz have been heard from so far.  Anyone 
else?).  By the way, if anyone wants to part with old red cards, I've got 
a guy who wants to buy them.  Other ideas?

Bottom line is, I think we should actively seek out funds to underwrite 
GHQ and the IW separately from organizing.  Nelson and Anderson could 
then be used to (gasp) pay travelling organizers!  We gotta keep GHQ to stay 
legal with the Feds, and it's not worth the fight not being legal (yet).  The 
IW is one tool in our arsenal for recruiting (at least it is here) -- 
moreso if we perk it up some more.  But we outta plot out how much $$$ we 
need and go get it.  It'd sure be a relief to have all the funding for 
operations in place by, say, March of every year so we could worry about 
more important things.

One question.  I see it cited that it costs something like $10/month per 
member for "servicing."  Moreover, the last dues increase came about 
because this was widely accepted (among other reasons).  Moreover, it was 
suggested that the more members we sign up (I assume at minimum dues) the 
more money we lose.  I can't for the life of me figure out how this could 
be.  Can someone explain this to me?  Personally, I think our dues are too 
expensive at the minimum level and not progressive enough at the upper 
echelons, but I'm not one to beat a dead horses.  By the way, have you 
noticed how cheap baseball bats are this season?

A hui hou,

Pete Wilcox
O'ahu GMB

P.S.  I hope GHQ expenses have gone down substantially since moving from 
hyperrent SF (could've been worse, could've been here) to what I hope is 
more moderately-priced surroundings.  Tell me it's so, FW Chase   :-)
Oh and feel free to put this in the GOB if I'm not repeating myself, ok?



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Fellow workers

Corin Royal Drummond has made an excellenet suggestion regarding the GOB.  I
give it my full support.  

If members wish to attack one another let them do it directly by mail (or
physically if they so desire) 
and let us keep the GOB for internal (mature) debate on how to take the union
forward.

I also agree with Corins idea for budgets to be set for the various activities
of the Union.  These could be agreed either by the Assembly, via a ballot of by
the GEB. If we had an assembly composed of delegates this might be easier and
would give a business focus to it.

Kevin Brandstatter

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	Yeah, I did mention the End-Up too.  Unfortunately your computer
semi-literate GST forgot to auto-file the message.  I seem to do that with some
of the best ones :)  I think I'll add a paragraph to the Wobbly pamphlet on the
g&l issue.  I'll tell Kelley to try you again.  Is fido no longer necessary in
your address?
	I do get some SF mail.  I just sent a batch back.  It's slowing down as
the carrier figures out what's happening.  I'll send the bill back.
	Corin did have some good ideas.  I told him that, but that I want to mull
them over a bit before I respond to the whole.  Some may not be cost effective.
But I also told him I'd prefer to answer in private.  Most of my posts on the
iww-list seem to act like lightning rods.  I don't have any eyebrows left.
	
				Fred		 


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I think I left out part of Kelley's address.

should be robkel@mailhost.primenet.com

			Fred	 


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From: Pete M Wilcox <wilcox@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu>

 
Aloha FWs:  

Though this might be of interest  They sound to me like our kind of 
folks, at least in action.  Do we have anyone in DC?

A hui hou,

Pete Wilcox
O'ahu IWW GMB

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 13:46:06 -1000
From: Talmadge Wright <twright@orion.it.luc.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <psn@csf.colorado.edu>
Subject: Community Action (fwd)

> 
> For the last couple of days in D.C., we ve been treated to some
> fantastic organizing and spectacular successes in direct action
> by the Service Employees' Internation Union's "Justice For
> Janitors Campaign."  The week of mass action targeted the City
> Council's decision to slash property taxes for commercial
> property owners in the face of a gaping budget shortfall (the
> City faces a deficit of roughly 30 percent).  Justice for
> Janitors has been attempting to organize in D.C. commercial
> buildings for a few years, and this week's actions signalled a
> new direction as they broadened their campaign to address the
> equity in the city's budget crisis.  Union members, organizers,
> and community activists from the D.C. area joined together for a
> series of protests aimed at City Hall and Congress.  Police have
> arrested nearly 200 protesters a day in running skirmishes. 
> Yesterday at lunch, a thousand marchers shut down the central
> city, chanting the slogan: "Tax Oliver Carr. Save D.C."   Oliver
> Carr is the City's largest landlord and has been resisting calls
> by janitors in his buildings for unionization.
> 
> Nine protesters barged into House Speaker Newt Gingrich's
> district business office today, where they chanted and put
> stickers on furniture. Capitol police arrested them when they
> refused to leave and charged them with defacing public property,
> unlawful entry and demonstrating in the Capitol.
> 
> Protesters also entered the House chamber and chanted from the
> gallery and continued their shouts as police surrounded them in
> the hallway outside the chamber, where a crowd of tourists stood
> in shocked silence.
> 
> As the protesters were hauled away they said, "D.C. is going down
> the toilet and building owners are getting millions of dollars in
> Tax Breaks."
> 
> 
> Dana Wise
> dwise@capaccess.org;HN0396@HandsNet.com
> 
> 
> 


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From deke@wps.com Fri Mar 24 10:33:47 1995
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And also:

FW: Fellow Worker

It took me about a month to figure that one out (field worker?....fellow 
wanker?.....fund waster?). But then, I'm kinda slow.  ;-)

YFTR,

Justin@bumfuck.au

From josie@iww.org Fri Mar 24 11:22:34 1995
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From: "x341890 (josie)" <josie@iww.org>
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Hey Deke,
	Just for your info, the home page is "running" if not 
particularly interesting.  You can get to it at "http://iww.org:890", see 
how you find it.  See if it will crash, etc., and send me mail.  Also if 
you could send me the html files that Nathan has done and should be 
included if you get a chance (past the hangover *:)).  I'm going to be 
designing the system today, so the home page may change occasionally.
	Solidarity (in virtual supply)
	josie, x341890


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On Fri, 24 Mar 1995, x341890 (josie) wrote:

> Hey Deke,
> 	Just for your info, the home page is "running" if not 
> particularly interesting.  You can get to it at "http://iww.org:890", see 
> how you find it.  See if it will crash, etc., and send me mail.  Also if 
> you could send me the html files that Nathan has done and should be 
> included if you get a chance (past the hangover *:)).  I'm going to be 
> designing the system today, so the home page may change occasionally.
> 	Solidarity (in virtual supply)
> 	josie, x341890
> 

Hey Josie-- 

Got yer mail, at both addresses. Hoooo-ray for our team! Also, isn't Pete 
Wilcox fanTABulous? If I'm not careful I'm gonna have a good morning...

Wonder what the fuck it is with this mail?! Looks like I'm gonna grunge 
around with that today, see whassup. Mebbe I can worker-control to 
announce this damn thing today...

blorg. Um, yeah-- I was just checking out the home page-- pretty neat 
trick. BTW, didn't need the 890 part, from tlg.org at least. 

How to get you these files, esp if the mailer's still fukt? Mebbe figure 
out the ftp thing...

hasta,
--Deke

From josie@iww.org Fri Mar 24 11:56:54 1995
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From: "x341890 (josie)" <josie@iww.org>
To: X341697 <deke@fletcher.iww.org>
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Subject: Re: Home page
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Hey Deke,
	Actually I think that I know how to get the file if you send me 
the tlg URL address.  
	As to the 890 part, great.  That's the port address.  I wasn't 
sure if the routing from the client to the right port would work, but I 
guess it must (BTW, 890 is sort of my first name in x341890, x numbers 
are sort of like chinese *;))
	Hope the rest of your day continues to go good.  I am going to 
link in Spunk, as well as the iww.news conference if I can, as well as 
figure out how to get PGP running for more secure access.  Lastly, I 
wanted to know how we might set up a very restricted "guest" account, 
basically, so that people could telnet to guest to get the web page, if 
their own shell does not permit direct web access (it seems every shell 
these days allows telnet).  This would be a good way to let FW's with 
less technical info to access the system (we could explain how to get 
here really easily step by step).
	Well, it will still be a while before it's all running, and right 
now I'm consuming documentation to get a sense of what's out there before 
I start.
	solidarity (gender neutral)
	josie, x341890
PS ELM sucks, why didn't you show me pine in the first place ;)  

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To: Corin Royal Drummond <newt@cruzio.com>
Cc: iww list <iww-list@fido.wps.com>
Subject: Re: IWW support for Zapatsitas and activist unions.
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	Wow, email has a strange amplifying effect that I've yet to 
figure out 100%... In re-reading my post about the IWW supporting EZLN 
and minor unions, I'm struck by how strident and aggressive it sounded. I 
actually didn't, and don't intend to heap another bucket of bile onto the 
ongoing debates here.  I was interested in finding out two things: 
	1) is there a good standing argument for the IWW to remain aloof 
	from the struggles in Mexico, and

	2) are things going on around the union toward building contacts with
	some of these new radical independant unions or is that a bad 
	idea too?

	I think, however that this would be a good time for me to point 
out a couple of things.  I'm very encouraged by the small but substantial 
progress we seem to have made in this net-discussion toward reaching some 
kind of consensus...I still think that goal is ulimately possible because 
after all kinds of reading and thinking about it I'm convinced that all 
parties involved are good wobs.  I'm also thrilled by the successes and 
hard work carried out by fw's in Philly, Santa Cruz, Lehigh Valley, and 
England especially, and all over the rest of the union.  Finally I think 
that Dekes efforts and the co-operation of the other GEB members toward 
beginning to reform the organization of the union buraucracy is really 
encouraging, as is the realtively swift and sure assistance they have 
given to Santa Cruz in their hour of need.  I think we are moving 
forward, and we may be suprised as hell when after a little more 
tinkering, we'll be shifting this OBU into high gear!
	AS for the Philly Bulletin and delegate status, I havent seen 
Tsunami and I'm not yet a delegate, partially because of being real busy 
with a full work schedule, (De) Center support, Food Not Bombs, the 
Chiapas Support group, planning for the Arrowbear Anarchist Conference, 
and hard drinking all the time, as well as being a little disappointed by 
the levels of IWW activity in LA, I hadnt gotten it together to become a 
delegate yet and I'm even behind on my dues! (Gasp!)
	However, all the stuff that has been happening has really 
convinced me that the IWW is worth even blowing an O-ring through 
overwork (isn't crazy how subversion and revolution begin to become more 
of a job than your work!?).  We fire ants have been talking amongst 
ourselves and among some freinds in LA and San Bernadino about forming 
another GMB, and its starting to look like that may happen now.  At any 
rate this weekend I'm going to send in all my back dues, apply for 
delegate status, and in all respects redeem myself and quit complaining 
and start helping.
	On last thing I want to add is that I think the IW is a very 
valuable component of the IWW, its presence in a sleazy newstand in New 
Orleans 2 years ago is what brought me and another @nt into the union. A
newspaper is not only important to reach potential wobs in areas that 
dont have local branches, it also represents us in the various worlds in 
which we are known if maybe not always loved.  It is to some degree the 
voice of our union, and tho there may be some room to improve the 
efficiency (cost wise) of its production, I don't think that its 
practical to say that we are faced with a choice between having a paper 
or supporting our members in labor disputes etc.  Like food and water, we 
need both to stay alive!
	Regards, cigars, and Bushmills,
	JR of the F@C


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To: fire_ant@delta1.deltanet.com (fire ant collective)
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Jenry, you rock!!!   *:)

I know what you mean about that work/revolution thing-- I mean, I'm 
*always* going off about workin' it! and "better get to Work!" etc. etc. 
That's why I don't write you back a lot (hell, even my *mama* has to wait 
for that sorta shit!) But please do know that I'm so very glad you're in 
the mix, and I value and think about the things you have to say.

Well, back to Work! for me. Watch for the soon-forthcoming announcement 
that fletcher.iww.org is indeed on-air, and up and (near-)running! No, 
really...   *:)

Soli All Over,
--Deke

From josie@iww.org Fri Mar 24 14:04:35 1995
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From: "x341890 (josie)" <josie@iww.org>
To: "X341697 (Deke Nihilson)" <deke@fletcher.iww.org>
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Hi Deke,
	Sabotage should be up and running on the home page.  Let me know 
if you have any problems, and or comments.  It's still a boring page, but 
I'm working on that.  As to the "user" thing, you know more than I do 
about that.  I will check out the creating accounts thing and see how it 
goes.
	In solidarity,
	josie, x341890

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Subject: Re: IWW support for Zapatsitas and activist unions.
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=09Hey thanks a lot, I'm not used to that sort of reaction (usually=20
I just get pelted with trash and driven away...ahem)  Btw I understand=20
you may become involved u2=FC=F2_^=C3

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Subject: EMERGENCY! Headwaters Forest Faces the Axe
To: iww-list@wps.com
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Forwarded from the paper version sent out by Mendo/Humboldt/Local 1 
Earth First!
dated 22 March 1995

*****beginning of message*****

HEADWATERS FOREST RED ALERT!
Cutting Can Begin Tuesday, March 28

The unthinkable is actually happening. The California Department of 
Forestry (CDF) has approved Maxxam's plan to cut ancient redwoods in the 
pristine Headwaters grove, and logging could begin next week. On Tuesday, 
March 28, CDF and Maxxam will be doing a walk-through inspection of 
Headwaters grove to decide which trees to cut. As soon as the inspection 
is done, logging can begin.

To add to the outrage, Maxxam has not even filed a timber harvest plan 
for Tuesday's cutting, as should be required under the California Forest 
Practices Act. Instead they are planning to cut Headwaters under an 
"exemption" just granted by the CDF. CDF's exemption logging rules allow 
Maxxam to cut up to 10% of the trees, under the guise that they are "dead 
or dying," with no public review, and without being subject to most 
environmental restraints. In addition to the 10% of standing trees, they 
can also take as many downed trees as they want.

Maxxam head Charles Hurwitz says he is ready to cut, but he is willing to 
sell if a buyer can be found to pay the $500 million ransom he is 
demanding for these trees he stole in a junk bond scam. Hurwitz also says 
they will voluntarily hold off cutting between April 1 and September 30, 
so the endangered Murrelets can complete their nesting season before he 
slaughters their habitat. But even if he holds to this non-binding 
promise, a lot of damage can be done between the March 28 approval date 
and the April 1 voluntary moratorium. And Maxxam has refused to agree not 
to cut during that period. Hurwitz is certainly not above dropping trees 
in this ancient grove, even if his ultimate plan is to sell it.

EPIC and the Sierra Club are in the process of filing several lawsuits to 
try and stop the cut. But this all happened so quickly, with so little 
public notice or time to prepare, that the lawsuits will not be in until 
next week, and we do not know if a hearing can even be scheduled before 
the logging begins.

But we can't count on either of these avenues to keep Maxxam from cutting 
Headwaters Forest. Only a huge mobilization of public outrage can prevent 
this atrocity. And so we have been put in the position of having to 
instantly organize a full-scale response. When Maxxam and CDF walk 
through Headwaters grove and mark trees for cutting on Tuesday, we must 
be there to protest. If they try to log, we must block them.
 

Direct Action Mobilization

Because of the short notice, we cannot tell you the exact time or 
location of the Tuesday rally yet. But we can't wait any longer to mail 
this notice, because we need you to be there too. There will be a legal, 
non-arrest demonstration on Tuesday, March 28, somewhere near the 
entrance to Headwaters Forest. And there will be non-violent civil 
disobedience in the forest any time they try to cut. We will have 
overnight accomodations, car pools, and a bus available for the Tuesday 
demonstration, and a base camp for the woods actions. If you can help 
with any aspect of actions or support, we need you. Call 707-468-1660 for 
info.


Phoning and Funding

If you can't come to Headwaters, we still need your help. This instant 
mobilization is going to cost a bundle, as we have to cover phones, 
transportation, base camp equipment, etc. etc. Funding is desperately 
needed. Please make checks out to Earth First!, and mail them to: 
Earth First!, 106 West Standley, Ukiah CA  95482

You can also help by calling Governor Pete Wilson at 916-445-2841. Wilson 
could stop this cut in a minute if he wanted, just by ordering the Board 
of Forestry to enforce the law. Wilson has just announced that he is 
meeting with Maxxam for one more round of negotiations on Headwaters. 
Call him and demand that he enforce the Forest Practices Act and stop the 
cut in Headwaters Forest. No trades, no deals. Just stop the cut.

*****end of message*****

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To: fire ant collective <fire_ant@delta1.deltanet.com>
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On Fri, 24 Mar 1995, fire ant collective wrote:
> I was interested in finding out two things: 
> 	1) is there a good standing argument for the IWW to remain aloof 
> 	from the struggles in Mexico, and
         
        I don't think we're aloof.  I think we're small and being small
we appear to be aloof.  There really isn't much the IWW can do to 
support the struggles of the oppressed of Mexico.  If we were larger,
maybe we could mount a general strike in support of the Zapatistas or
in opposition to the so-called NAFTA.  But as it stands now, IMHO the
best thing we can do as Wobs is to organize more workers in to the IWW
or, if one really feels the need, you could do a direct action and drive
a jeep or truck full of medical supplies down to Chiapas.  I can see it
now, a convoy of canvass covered trucks with IWW Solidarity painted on
them, carrying bandages and blood to the Zapatistas.  No, don't laugh.
I remember certain ruling circles in the US State apparatus being 
very upset at a plan by SDS to send plasma to the NLF during the Vietnam
War.
My personal take on the issue and others like it, is that we live in the
belly of the beast already and the best thing we can do for the oppressed
peoples of the world is to organize One Big Union here.


 	2) are things going on around the union toward building contacts with
> 	some of these new radical independant unions or is that a bad 
> 	idea too?

I don't think that it is a bad idea.  We should build solidarity with
workers everywhere; but we should also stick to our principles--class
struggle, abolition of wage labor and the like.  Many other independent
unions don't share these principles, unfortunately.


> 	AS for the Philly Bulletin and delegate status,

Speed the day.  I remember, I think it was Tai, who said that we
Wobs should try to make as many of ourselves delegates as possible.
Your comments about the IW are also well taken.  I joined the Union
after buying a copy myself.  Just filled out the coupon.

Mike B)

Don't just criticize; get yourself organized in the One Big Union.
Join the Wobblies! e-mail the IWW:  iww@igc.apc.org









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To: fire ant collective <fire_ant@delta1.deltanet.com>
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Hello Fire Ants and other Wobs...
	Please send your Snail-mail address and you'll get a bunch of 
tsunamis in your mailbox,  but do it soon please.  
	Fire ant coolectives remarks on the EZLN are most appropriate.   
The Philadelphia IWW held a rally in front of the Mexican Consulate about 
a week after the original uprising, and I think there were others.  I 
wish there were much more to report as far as hard organizing... we 
hosted a speaker at A Space, along with other local anarchists, who 
represented the Zapatistas or at least had good firsthand info ( I was 
out of town).  I would love to see the whole union do a major public push 
on the Zapatistas' behalf, but I can't commit to doing any central work 
right now.  I recall that the LA wobs had much better access to 
information than we did, and I'd imagine that You fire ants do as well, 
being so much closer to Chiapas and being more likely to have Spanish 
speakers among your members... as you can see, I'm rambling a bit.

				stay in touch!

				Bob Helms X341465

On Fri, 24 Mar 1995, fire ant collective wrote:

> 	Wow, email has a strange amplifying effect that I've yet to 
> figure out 100%... In re-reading my post about the IWW supporting EZLN 
> and minor unions, I'm struck by how strident and aggressive it sounded. I 
> actually didn't, and don't intend to heap another bucket of bile onto the 
> ongoing debates here.  I was interested in finding out two things: 
> 	1) is there a good standing argument for the IWW to remain aloof 
> 	from the struggles in Mexico, and
> 
> 	2) are things going on around the union toward building contacts with
> 	some of these new radical independant unions or is that a bad 
> 	idea too?
> 
> 	I think, however that this would be a good time for me to point 
> out a couple of things.  I'm very encouraged by the small but substantial 
> progress we seem to have made in this net-discussion toward reaching some 
> kind of consensus...I still think that goal is ulimately possible because 
> after all kinds of reading and thinking about it I'm convinced that all 
> parties involved are good wobs.  I'm also thrilled by the successes and 
> hard work carried out by fw's in Philly, Santa Cruz, Lehigh Valley, and 
> England especially, and all over the rest of the union.  Finally I think 
> that Dekes efforts and the co-operation of the other GEB members toward 
> beginning to reform the organization of the union buraucracy is really 
> encouraging, as is the realtively swift and sure assistance they have 
> given to Santa Cruz in their hour of need.  I think we are moving 
> forward, and we may be suprised as hell when after a little more 
> tinkering, we'll be shifting this OBU into high gear!
> 	AS for the Philly Bulletin and delegate status, I havent seen 
> Tsunami and I'm not yet a delegate, partially because of being real busy 
> with a full work schedule, (De) Center support, Food Not Bombs, the 
> Chiapas Support group, planning for the Arrowbear Anarchist Conference, 
> and hard drinking all the time, as well as being a little disappointed by 
> the levels of IWW activity in LA, I hadnt gotten it together to become a 
> delegate yet and I'm even behind on my dues! (Gasp!)
> 	However, all the stuff that has been happening has really 
> convinced me that the IWW is worth even blowing an O-ring through 
> overwork (isn't crazy how subversion and revolution begin to become more 
> of a job than your work!?).  We fire ants have been talking amongst 
> ourselves and among some freinds in LA and San Bernadino about forming 
> another GMB, and its starting to look like that may happen now.  At any 
> rate this weekend I'm going to send in all my back dues, apply for 
> delegate status, and in all respects redeem myself and quit complaining 
> and start helping.
> 	On last thing I want to add is that I think the IW is a very 
> valuable component of the IWW, its presence in a sleazy newstand in New 
> Orleans 2 years ago is what brought me and another @nt into the union. A
> newspaper is not only important to reach potential wobs in areas that 
> dont have local branches, it also represents us in the various worlds in 
> which we are known if maybe not always loved.  It is to some degree the 
> voice of our union, and tho there may be some room to improve the 
> efficiency (cost wise) of its production, I don't think that its 
> practical to say that we are faced with a choice between having a paper 
> or supporting our members in labor disputes etc.  Like food and water, we 
> need both to stay alive!
> 	Regards, cigars, and Bushmills,
> 	JR of the F@C
> 

From deke@wps.com Fri Mar 24 18:46:31 1995
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To: Michael Ballard <miballar@leland.Stanford.EDU>
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Mike is right.  There hasn't been a strike for a political reason in the 
US since at least WWII, unless I'm forgetting something.  A European 
friend once asked me, "Why don't workers in the US go on strike for 
reproductive rights?"  and it took me a while to get the answer 
together.  
	I think that the entire labor leadership could not cause a 
unified strike to happen, i.e. all of the US unions at once, even if 
unions were outlawed tomorrow, or something shocking went down, and the 
general strike is quite a long way off for us, to say the least.
	We can pass on information for the people of Chiapas, we can pull 
stunts to dramatize their situation, but this country is a cesspool of 
fascism.  
	About the various radical unions that are sprouting up, Network 
with them, support them, and help other Wobs to do the same.  

	by the way, I know about a radical union called the Lehigh Valley 
IWW, and its principle organizer, Len Flank, is under fire for his Wobbly 
actions by the boss at an IWW shop called Boulevard Bingo.  I am ashamed 
at the way our union is failing to support him.  Are we capable of doing 
the zapatistas any good, if all we can do for our own celebrated X341341, 
i.e. Lenny Flank, is jerk him around when the going gets tough?

				In solidarity,

				Bob Helms  X341465
				Philadelphia, PA

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I think we figured out how to fix this from this end. Essentially, we've 
run into some bugs (I tell ya, I'm bug city these days...) from the new 
version release itself. fletcher does'nt know that he is iww.org, and is 
supposed to. We're tracking down the fix with bsdi, but in the meantime, 
the solution is to use the Fully Qualified Domain Name, i.e. not just 
iww.org, but fletcher.iww.org. The name fletcher simply must be evoked 
for mail to get delivered-- at least around here, buddy!!!  *:)

Erstwhile, I can't seem to hold on to a stack of Tsunamis, anywhere I 
show 'em. I could use some more, and will send money as soon as I 
remember to (all this bug-chasin's got my brain all cluttered up).

Well, I'm gonna go work on the announcement of fletcher.iww.org for the 
iww-list-- watch for it! As ever, I remain

Yours for the revolutions,
th'Deke Motif, "not not bad for a dick-head"  *:)

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 THanks deke!
	I'm closing in on the general neighborhood of being almost ready 
for my trip to the land of voulez-vous.  I don't believe that I'll be 
able to get on line, but I'll look into it when i get over there.  The 
college where my friend teaches doesn't have email, she says.  
	This email stuff really is the cat's meow, though.  I located the 
distributor of the French subtitled version of the film Manufacturing 
consent, and I'm just a Fuckin' beginner!  For my next trick....
	Oh well, I'd better get back to my other chores.  One more pack 
of tsunamis is on its way, ol' buddy.  
	Do you think Corin's glossary of Abreviation should include "DH" 
and "D-H" or is it too early for that?  Did I tell you that my spell 
check rejected both the single-word "dickhead" and the hyphenated 
"dick-head?"  The machine insisted on two words: "dick head."  I think 
that this indicates a non-aligned movement.  seriously, though, if you 
saw that thing from Spunk press that Josie sent me, about KAS versus the 
other group of Russian Anarcho-syndicalists, it is really eerie, how 
things sort of happen the same everywhere.  I wonder if they have a 
"comrade Bekkenov?"

				Yours for The One Big Dick,
					Bob Helms  X341465

On Fri, 24 Mar 1995, Deke Motif Nihilson wrote:

> I think we figured out how to fix this from this end. Essentially, we've 
> run into some bugs (I tell ya, I'm bug city these days...) from the new 
> version release itself. fletcher does'nt know that he is iww.org, and is 
> supposed to. We're tracking down the fix with bsdi, but in the meantime, 
> the solution is to use the Fully Qualified Domain Name, i.e. not just 
> iww.org, but fletcher.iww.org. The name fletcher simply must be evoked 
> for mail to get delivered-- at least around here, buddy!!!  *:)
> 
> Erstwhile, I can't seem to hold on to a stack of Tsunamis, anywhere I 
> show 'em. I could use some more, and will send money as soon as I 
> remember to (all this bug-chasin's got my brain all cluttered up).
> 
> Well, I'm gonna go work on the announcement of fletcher.iww.org for the 
> iww-list-- watch for it! As ever, I remain
> 
> Yours for the revolutions,
> th'Deke Motif, "not not bad for a dick-head"  *:)
> 

From deke@wps.com Fri Mar 24 22:51:27 1995
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From: "X341697 (Deke Nihilson)" <deke@fletcher.iww.org>
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Real transmission forthcoming...

--Deke

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Revolutionary Greetings, fellow workers of all genders,

I write to you this evening from the first Union-run Internet node in the
world. This is that of the IWW-- its name is fletcher.iww.org

Being that this is a machine, online 24-hours-a-day, 7-days-a-week means 
several things. Not only can we have secured accounts for members and 
branches that FWs only need to telnet into (a major feature to those of 
us squatting on-line), it also means the whole of the TCP/IP suite, 
including information services like ftp, gopher, www (web pages) and a 
whole lot more.

***warning: techie part!!! If ya don't want the stats, skip ahead!
	...you know how we in th'industry get  *:) ***

fletcher.iww.org is a 386sx with 1/2 gig hard drive, 32 megs of RAM, and 
not much more, running BSDI and using PPP to connect to the Internet, all 
the time, over 14.4 baud modems on either end of a plain old telephone 
line that's been acquired exclusively for this purpose. There's some bugs 
in the new BSDI release, and myself and my fellow workers at TLGnet (who 
have put much work into this too, with full knowledge of what their 
labor's supporting) are working on tracking these things down and fixing 
them. This is nothing unusual for a .0 release. (By The WAy, I don't want 
to get all tecchie on ya, but thought it would behoove us all to know the 
parameters of what's up with this thing).

Our domain (iww.org) is registered with the InterNIC, so it's ours 
forever. The administrative contact is myself, the tech contact (DNS 
server) is TLGnet and the organizational contact is the S.F. Bay Area 
GMB. You can find all this out, from your unix-like environment, by 
giving the command "whois iww.org" (without the quotes).

Tied to this domain name is an eight-bit subnet, and there's more where 
it came from. fletcher's IP address (the name the computers know) is 
204.188.113.1  Eight-bit means we can assign up to 253 more, and build a 
network of computers all tied to each other on the 'net, but still under 
autonomopus control. IE, there could be a flynn.iww.org at 204.188.113.2, 
a hill.iww.org at 204.188.113.3, a little.iww.org at .4 and so on, 
creating an internetwork of IWW presence online. This is a challenge and 
an opportunity ahead of us, one that will blaze a trail for labor and 
bring the IWW well into the 21st century, even if we're meanwhile 
flat-broke (but more on that in a minute). Organized and decentralized, 
like the Internet itself, the wobblies are coming home to the future,
even as we never forget the past from which we come. 

***end of tecchie warning****

Several wobs, in addition to a couple of my TLGnet FWs, already have 
accounts here, and are helping out not only with debugging but also with 
setting up other of the vast array of information services. This is the 
organizing I've been doing lately, and I haven't talked about it so much 
only because it hadn't happened yet, and no use getting folks all 
expectant about something that might not come off!!! But here it is, it's 
ours to have and hold. 
 
Something to check out, as an example of both the possibilities before us 
and the work that needs doing, is our brand-spanking-new web page. You 
can check it out at:  http://iww.org/
There's plenty of room not only for *your* involvement, but also for 
whatever  it is your branch/group/union entity/self wants to tell the 
world, as a wobbly outfit...

In addition to web pages and individual accounts, others are looking to
set up the ftp site, and majordomo, which is a software suite that will
allow for authorized users to set up their own mailing lists, moderated or
unmoderated, specific or general, so that we may do more in this media
than recreate our already-existant organs. Imagine-- Industry-specific
lists, organizing foci lists, well... whatever we, the rank and file of
the Union want to talk about and in whatever way. 

In case all this isn't enough, here's the scoop-- all of this won't cost
the Union a dime, while being thoroughly and utterly under only our
control.  This has been made possible through the (wo)manifestation of
direct-action-based control at the point of production. Because I work in
the industry, I can do this, and because I can do this, it is ours to run
with. (First and foremost, I'm a delegate, honey!!!  *:) We will need to
delevop ways to insure that it remains in control of the rank and file,
yet remains secure as it's possible for an outpost on a frontier to
remain. Freedom and accountability, as we find more things we want to do
and run into the limitations of our system simultaneously. This is a
challenge indeed, and one in which I ardently hope you all will join.
Together we can do this, and it will not happen on its own. 

The bugs, and the newness of my knowledge, prevented the announcement of 
this New Thing until now. For the record, fletcher's first day online was 
15 March, which just so happens to be the birthday of IWW Organizer Ben 
Fletcher, whom the machine had been previously been named after. This was 
a coincidence, and the date (indeed) was ultimately selected by Pacific 
Bell as the day the phone line was installed. Happy Birthday FW Ben; 
Caesar should indeed fret!

This project (so far) is very much the product of Queer Labor, by the way,
and I would like to take this mere moment to acknowledge that this is yet
one more queer-heavy contribution of labor and love to the whole of our
class, indeed worldwide, as is the Internet. There are 30 million + people
online currently, worldwide, and this figure is growing at about 10% a
*month*! And it's a fact that most of 'em ain't bosses, either... 

So let's go! Where to start? Well, to get an account here, send me mail
at: deke@fletcher.iww.org Because of a software bug, for now at least the
address *must* include the hostname (fletcher) or your mail will bounce.
This will hopefully soon be fixed. I'll need your name and X number, and
at least your X number will be on your "from" line (i.e. an account ID);
let me know which (if any) name you want to go with it. We'll have to
figure out how much (if any) control we want to give GHQ over access; I'd
suggest that bad standing not preclude participation while membership be
required for access. (Just like Organizing, and nothing like the perq
system of GOBs and IWs!!!) So while chronically broke members can still be
in on the action, GHQ can keep us updated on who's ignoring their dues,
which may well affect how much weight you give to some strident opinion or
other!!!  And if someone's complaining a lot, and doing nothing
constructive either online or off, well, the Silent Treatment is a
light-handed yet terrible thing and people with such ego-needs often get
bored and go away.  Otherwise, access can always be denied.... when? How?
Who gets to decide, under what circumstances, etc. etc. etc.  Let's get
this figured out from the start-- let it be part of our dialogue. With any
luck, it will spill over into larger Union-wide debates. 

All this can be facilitated through the x-number, which is so suitable 
for the computer age, and all the anonymity and accountability that 
the X number entails! See, we *did* have it all figured from the start...

Well, that's the 411. I could go on and on (and you *know* I do, honey!), 
but hey-- it's time to hear from you! Bother me, bother each other, tell 
members not online and those you want to persuade to join-- brag about it 
at labor events!!! Get involved, get others involved, make it your own 
because it's the Union's, and this is *your* Union!!! What we say is 
true-- together we can do things that we cannot do alone.

In Solidarity True and from the Point of Production I remain

Yours for the Revolution,
Deke Motif Nihilson, X341697, GA Del. 94-33
IU 560, SFBA G.M.B, '95 GEB member, IWW



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On Fri, 24 Mar 1995, Bob Helms wrote:
	Everybody made good points about the EZLN, I agree we are a small 
union, but I think we could do more distribution of information (although 
the latest IW had more than usual....)  Theres a hell of a lot of real 
interesting stuff going on which relate to the whole broad issues of 
left-libertarian orgs and movements like our own, and I don't see the 
tasks of spreading the word about Mexico or other not specifically union 
stuff such as green news or whatever, and building and supporting our own 
OBU as being mutually exclusive, to the contrary, more activity on that 
front would probably draw more folks into the union who are just 
becoming radicalised by participation in Zapatista support as an 
example.	
	Also, fire @nts have supported both the Lehigh Valley GMB 
and the BPOC at least some, if there is more we can do let us know.  Btw 
everybody should check out the RAND corporation article on how "NETWAR" 
is going to make Mexico ungovernable, posted recently to 1-Union, its a 
real mind blower...what we're doing here is considered terrorism by some 
folks, or at least they want to try to convince people that it is...
	Anyway, for a great drunken sister and brotherhood of wobblies, 
zapatistas, fire @nts, and all good-hearted freaks everywhere...

	"Ni Dios, Ni Amo, Contra Toda Autoridad....
	 ANARQUIA!!"

	JR





> Mike is right.  There hasn't been a strike for a political reason in the 
> US since at least WWII, unless I'm forgetting something.  A European 
> friend once asked me, "Why don't workers in the US go on strike for 
> reproductive rights?"  and it took me a while to get the answer 
> together.  
> 	I think that the entire labor leadership could not cause a 
> unified strike to happen, i.e. all of the US unions at once, even if 
> unions were outlawed tomorrow, or something shocking went down, and the 
> general strike is quite a long way off for us, to say the least.
> 	We can pass on information for the people of Chiapas, we can pull 
> stunts to dramatize their situation, but this country is a cesspool of 
> fascism.  
> 	About the various radical unions that are sprouting up, Network 
> with them, support them, and help other Wobs to do the same.  
> 
> 	by the way, I know about a radical union called the Lehigh Valley 
> IWW, and its principle organizer, Len Flank, is under fire for his Wobbly 
> actions by the boss at an IWW shop called Boulevard Bingo.  I am ashamed 
> at the way our union is failing to support him.  Are we capable of doing 
> the zapatistas any good, if all we can do for our own celebrated X341341, 
> i.e. Lenny Flank, is jerk him around when the going gets tough?
> 
> 				In solidarity,
> 
> 				Bob Helms  X341465
> 				Philadelphia, PA

From liz@moomix.com Fri Mar 24 23:23:49 1995
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Hi Deke,

How are things coming along with the new wobbly domain?

Hope all is well!

-Liz

From tomj@wps.com Sat Mar 25 00:24:26 1995
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From: Tom Jennings <tomj@wps.com>
To: shit-list@wps.com
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Welp, flesh@wps.com is no more, I mean as an electronic entity here;
after repeated warnings about abusing people with his accoun on WPS --
which I get shit for -- I deleted him and his w00f list. The shit-lst
is pretty inactive, until I get a replacement life for the one I
lost somewhere.

I really will reply to all the mail I've been sent. Really.

Flesh sent 52 people a 4 megabyte file containing some idiotic sound
files of no interest to anyone. He and his friends found it amusing to
put people onto his list, then punish them with 13-year-old
cock-and-tit jokes, and all that sorta stuff. Sigh. Boring.

I found out what happened when, an employee heard a well-known local
DJ, Alex Bennett, tell his listeners to flame "flesh at wps.com" on the
air in the morning. Sheesh. Flesh put Alex on his mailing list, then
send out 52 copies of a 4 megabyte file. Poor Fido. It actually
delivered all the mail...

 Tom Jennings -- tomj@wps.com -- World Power Systems --  San Francisco, Calif.


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Please unsubscibe me from the list

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From: Bob Helms <bhelms@netaxs.com>
To: deke@fletcher.iww.org
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Deke,
	Every time I try to get intoiww.org, the connection is "closed by 
foreign host" after a few seconds.

	What's up?

Soli,  Bob H  X341465

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From: Bob Helms <bhelms@netaxs.com>
To: Deke Motif Nihilson <deke@wps.com>
Subject: Re: your mail
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Deke, Itried it again at 8:30 EST and no change.
			Bob 

On Sat, 25 Mar 1995, Deke Motif Nihilson wrote:

> > 	Every time I try to get intoiww.org, the connection is "closed by 
> > foreign host" after a few seconds.
> > 
> > 	What's up?
> 
> Hey, try it now...
> 
> --Deke
> 

From bhelms@iww.org Sat Mar 25 20:40:53 1995
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From: Bob Helms <bhelms@iww.org>
To: deke@fletcher.iww.org
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Hello dear electronic guru,
	I'v arrived at the iww domain, and have read my mail for the 
first time there, but I still got the mail right back when I "reply'd" to 
one of josie's messages.  I guess this means that I can't do that for the 
time being, but have to do a fresh message each time with the fully 
qualified domain name.  
	I hope that the reason two wobs unsubscribed themselves today is 
that they feel newly empowered by the fletcher.iww.organism, and by 
tsunami (It's Wobbly Water)
	there's a big box of 'em on their way to you, BTW.

						Peace,
						Bob x341465

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From: Pete M Wilcox <wilcox@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu>
To: iww-list <iww-list@fido.wps.com>
Subject: Legal Defense
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Aloha GEB Members:

Please consider the following:

I hereby petition the GEB to 1) accord all necessary legal expenses to 
allow FW Lenny Flank to finish the Boulevard Bingo cases and 2) to 
establish an IWW Legal Defense Fund to be funded by quarterly manditory 
assessments of $1 (minimum dues), $2 (regular), $3 (maximum), as well as 
voluntary donations.  In no way should "sub-minimum" dues payers be 
assessed.  Some percentage of proceeds from legal victories with cash awards 
funded by the union should be contributed to the fund as well as the fund being 
reimbursed in such circumstance (I can't think of the proper way to phrase 
this, so someone work it out, ok?)  3) Finally, I propose that FW 
Flank be appointed to oversee this fund until such time as he 
wishes not to or is recalled by a majority of the membership at large.



From deke@wps.com Sun Mar 26 04:03:34 1995
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To: Pete M Wilcox <wilcox@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu>
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Although I am but a new member, this sounds like a good suggestion to 
me.  I know that FW Flank's situation has caused alot of rumbling and 
discontent among the rank and file (and we wouldn't want THAT would we? 
;)  ), not to mention the alienation the FW Flank, himself.  I say, why 
not?  Let's do it. 

In solidarity,

Blake H. Lindsey

On Sat, 25 Mar 1995, Pete M Wilcox wrote:

> Aloha GEB Members:
> 
> Please consider the following:
> 
> I hereby petition the GEB to 1) accord all necessary legal expenses to 
> allow FW Lenny Flank to finish the Boulevard Bingo cases and 2) to 
> establish an IWW Legal Defense Fund to be funded by quarterly manditory 
> assessments of $1 (minimum dues), $2 (regular), $3 (maximum), as well as 
> voluntary donations.  In no way should "sub-minimum" dues payers be 
> assessed.  Some percentage of proceeds from legal victories with cash awards 
> funded by the union should be contributed to the fund as well as the fund being 
> reimbursed in such circumstance (I can't think of the proper way to phrase 
> this, so someone work it out, ok?)  3) Finally, I propose that FW 
> Flank be appointed to oversee this fund until such time as he 
> wishes not to or is recalled by a majority of the membership at large.
> 
> 
> 

From vad Sun Mar 26 08:25:41 1995
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From: Crys-Vad Hyphus <vad@wps.com>
To: Deke Motif Nihilson <deke@wps.com>
cc: Crys-Vad Hyphus <vad@wps.com>
Subject: new e-mail accounts
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Hi Deke!

Did this get through?

Please create the following accounts for our fellow workers with these 
logins:

vad (x342281) Crys-Vad Hyphus
torin (x342656) Torin Robin
crouton (x341337) Crouton Jones
free (x341330) Phil Free
skidmark (x342857)

Thanks!

Stay utterly FABulous!
vad.

From deke@wps.com Sun Mar 26 09:15:51 1995
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Fellow Workers,

Please, please can we have some thought before proposals like this
get circulated?  FW Flank himself a rfew years ago noted reasons why
the IWW should avoid entangling itself in the courts.  The GEB has
already allocated funds for the lawsuit defense (last year) and
received no receipts or accounting as required by the constitution.
This proposal and FW Nihilson's "motion" are simply blank-check 
proposals that would permit an unlimited amount of money to be
spent defending existing suits, beginning new ones, appeals, etc.,
without the least bit of union oversight over the legal strategy
employed.

It is possible that the expenditures to date have been reasonable
and that a thoughtful legal strategy has been employed.  Certainly
there is no way for anyone to know that, since there has been no
accounting (we don't even know how much has been raised).  And if
the reports posted by FW Flank are an accurate account of the legal
proceedings (and I do not mean to suggest that he would be deliberately
misrepresenting things -- only to suggest that he might not fully
understand the legal subtleties involved) that the legal strategy has
been completely botched.  For example, there is very clear SUpreme
Court ruling that no punitive damages can be assessed without
finding actual damages.  To judge by the posting thus far, the
attorney completely failed to point this out to the Judge, who would
have to follow the very clear law on the matter or be subjected to
disciplinary proceedings.  Anyone who knows libel law (as I do)
cannot help but be struck by the very odd accounts that have been
coming down throughout the entire proceedings.

Jon Bekken

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From: Crys-Vad Hyphus <vad@wps.com>
To: deke@fletcher.iww.org
cc: Deke Motif Nihilson <deke@wps.com>
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Did you send it yet? Thanks to an automatic "who" command I put in the 
startup scripts for both ucscb & sciww@fido, I noticed there was someone 
else logged in onto ucscb & in sciww@fido. I sent some e-mail asking who 
it was, and they apparently bailed. I just changed the passwords, so 
perhaps you should, too, & resend the list. I'll get off line so you can 
call me when you're ready.



From deke@fletcher.iww.org Sun Mar 26 15:35:05 1995
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On Sun, 26 Mar 1995, Crys-Vad Hyphus wrote:

> Did you send it yet? Thanks to an automatic "who" command I put in the 
> startup scripts for both ucscb & sciww@fido, I noticed there was someone 
> else logged in onto ucscb & in sciww@fido. I sent some e-mail asking who 
> it was, and they apparently bailed. I just changed the passwords, so 
> perhaps you should, too, & resend the list. I'll get off line so you can 
> call me when you're ready.

Don't sweat it-- just change the passwds asap. This will be just as safe, 
even safer actually... if you do it soon, there will be no time for 
anyone to really do anything...

Please send confirm as soon as this has been dealt with

Soli,
--Deke

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From: len.flank@father.com (Len Flank)
Subject: Re:  Legal Defense
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 1995 22:40:23 GMT
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-> Please, please can we have some thought before proposals like this
-> get circulated?  FW Flank himself a rfew years ago noted reasons why
-> the IWW should avoid entangling itself in the courts.  The GEB has
-> already allocated funds for the lawsuit defense (last year) and
-> received no receipts or accounting as required by the constitution.
-> This proposal and FW Nihilson's "motion" are simply blank-check
-> proposals that would permit an unlimited amount of money to be
-> spent defending existing suits, beginning new ones, appeals, etc.,
-> without the least bit of union oversight over the legal strategy
-> employed.
->
-> It is possible that the expenditures to date have been reasonable
-> and that a thoughtful legal strategy has been employed.  Certainly
-> there is no way for anyone to know that, since there has been no
-> accounting (we don't even know how much has been raised).  And if
-> the reports posted by FW Flank are an accurate account of the legal
-> proceedings (and I do not mean to suggest that he would be deliberate
-> misrepresenting things -- only to suggest that he might not fully
-> understand the legal subtleties involved) that the legal strategy has
-> been completely botched.  For example, there is very clear SUpreme
-> Court ruling that no punitive damages can be assessed without
-> finding actual damages.  To judge by the posting thus far, the
-> attorney completely failed to point this out to the Judge, who would
-> have to follow the very clear law on the matter or be subjected to
-> disciplinary proceedings.  Anyone who knows libel law (as I do)
-> cannot help but be struck by the very odd accounts that have been
-> coming down throughout the entire proceedings.
.
First of all, let me state that "FW" Bekken is making what seems to be
a deliberate ditortion in referring to my previous objections to legal
actions.  He is referring to former FW Judi bari's lawsuit against the
FBI, which I was opposed to then and am still opposed to now.  There
are, however, a few MAJOR differences in these situations:
.
1) Despite all of "FW" Bari's rhetoric and glad-handing, her lawsuit
had nothign whatsoever to do with the IWW, orghanizing workers or
winning or defending IWW contracts or organizers.  In her suit, Bari
did not identify herself with the IWW, did not refer to the IWW, and
made no attempt to use the lawsuit as a means of organizing for the
IWW.  The same is not true in my case--this lawsuit is the direct
result of my activities as an IWW organizer acting on behalf of the IWW
to enforce an existing IWW contract.
.
2)  Judi Bari decided to bring suit against the FBI--she was NOT
responding to a suit filed against her.  Tghis is NOT true in my
case--I did not ask for this suit, I don't want it, and no one would be
happier than me if it just went away.  The countersuit that I filed was
part of an effort to put some pressure on the bingo bosses to drop
their suit against me--an attempt which failed because the bingo bosses
are such shitheads.  This is NOT, repeat NOT, a thing of my own
choosing.  I did not ask Joe Fillman and Allied Air Force to file suit
against me.
.
3) "FW" Bekken's demand for "IWW oversight" (read "GEB oversight and
probably Jon Bekken oversight") strikes me as hollow.  If the GEB is so
goddamned interested in "overseeing" this lawsuit now, where the hell
were they a year and a half ago when I was first hit with this suit and
was asking desperately for some legal help?  Apparently, the GEB
doesn't give a flying fuck about the actions taken against the IWW's
organizers unless it looks like it's gonna cost the GEB a few bucks.
As I have repeatedly pointed out in the past, the Lehigh Valley IWW and
myself have fought the bingo bosses for almost three years--we have had
ten workers reinstated to their jobs afetr being illegally fired, we
have won back pay for them, and we have forced the bosses to sign the
only IWW contract now in existence.  I'd say we've done a few things
right, and for FW Bekken to attempt to paint us as a bunch of
incompetents who need to be "overseen" is insulting.  If FW Bekken
thinks he can do a better job than we have done, he is welcome to fly
here and sleep on my couch until he straightens us all out and shows us
how it is done.  (I do point out that, to my knowledge, "FW" Bekken has
NEVER, reperat NEVER, organized a single solitary Job Shop in his
entire life.  I do not like having our decisions second-guessed by
faraway bean-counters, but I PARTICULARLY don't like being
second-guessed by a self-proclaimed poo-bah who couldn't organzie his
way out of a wet paper bag.
.
4)  As for "FW" Bekken's comments about the legal strategy employed,
may I respectfully suggest that FW Bekken is not licensed to practice
law in the state of Pennsylvania.  My lawyer is.  As for his point
about "the lawyer should have pointe dout to the judge that the verdict
is in violation of established law", had FW Bekken been at the trial
(or if he had read my e-mail posts on the topic) he would know that my
lawyer jumped up as soon as the verdict was read to make a motion to
toss out the verdict, and was summarily rejected.  He then later that
afternoon filed a post-trial motion to have the verdict thrown out on
the grounds that the jury was improperly instructed.  The judge has not
yet ruled on that motion (but given the past history of the judge, we
do not have any hope that he will reverse himself, although it is thus
made EXTREMELY likely that the case will be overturned on appeal--and
probably a new trial will be ordered).  Again, I resent very strongly
the patronizing attitude that we idiots at the Lehigh Valley don't know
what the fuck we are doing, and the big poo-bahs at the GEB need to
keep an eye on us so we don't hurt ourselves.  
.
Despite all of his high-sounding rhetoric, it seems to me that the real
reason for "FW" Bekken's (and some other GEB members') reluctance to
fund my defense is that the IWW is going broke.  No matter how broke we
are, it is my understanding that there is currently at least $2000 in
the IWW's accounts.  If the GEB would rather spend this money on
printing new songbooks and publishign more newspapers instead of coming
to the aid of those who are out here organizing workers and winning
contracts in the name of the IWW, then they should at least have the
guts ewnough to admit it, and spare us all of this self-righteous
bullshit about "oversight".  The simple fact of the matter is that the
current GEB views the Industrial Worker and the songbook as being MORE
IMPORTANT than defending IWW organizers, and simply doesn't want to
spend the money necessary to support its own contracts.  This
reluctance speaks volumes, and points out mroe clearly than anything
else why workers (particularly those who really want to organize) are
staying away from the IWW in droves.  
.
"FW" Bekken says that this issue is simple.  In that, at least he is
correct--it IS simple.  I am being attacked by the bosses because I
have organized workers on behalf of the IWW and won a contract for the
IWW.  As a result of this attack, I know have a judgement against me
for $10,000, after a kangaroo court proceeding in which I wasn't even
allowed to present my defense.  I now have a very limited number of
options--(1) I can pay the bingo bosses the $10,000 and shut up.  (2) I
can refuse to pay the bingo bosses their $10,000 and have a lien placed
against everything I'll ever have for the rest of my life.  (3) I can
appeal the ruling and get it reversed, which means I don't owe the
bingo bosses a fucking dime, and they get no money from me to continue
to finance their union-busting campaign at Boulevard Bingo.  Apparently
the GEB would like me to choose the first or second options.  I have
chosen the third.  I assumed as a matter of course that the IWW means
what it says about solidarity and defending fellow workers who are
under attack and "an injury to one is an injury to all" and all those
nice-sounding phrases.  Instead, I have learned that the IWW's real
motto is "Organize, but if you get into a fix, don't come to us for
help."  
.
So this organizing campaign is going to be my last.  If the IWW is not
willing to back its own organizers, then I see no reason at all why me
or anybody else should stick our necks out for it.  When dedicated
organizers like Corin Royal Drummond risk (and indeed lose) their jobs
to organize for the IWW, and when organizers like myself risk losing
everything they have to organize for the IWW, the most simple
principles of "solidarity" would seem to dictate that the "union" do
whatever needs to be done to defend them.  Instead, the clear message
from the IWW has been "Fuck off.  You're on your own."
.
So I say to certain members of the current GEB, "Congratulations.  You
have done what the cops and the FBI and even the Commies couldn't
do---you have turned the IWW into a labor history club instead of a
real fighting union."
.
.
"To make the IWW a *UNION* once again."
.
.Lenny Flank

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Subject: Re:  Legal Defense
To: Jon Bekken <jbekken@igc.apc.org>
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 95 16:43:55 PST
From: Corin Royal Drummond <newt@cruzio.com>
Cc: iww list <iww-list@fido.wps.com>
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Jon,

I agree with you that the union must have some sort of oversight over the 
disbursement of funds.  But, clearly spending on legal defense is not 
currently a big drain on our finances.  Rather the office and the IW seem to 
be eating up our monies faster than anything.  I trust that these expenditures 
are as much a concern to you, who appear to be a voice for fiscal 
conservatism, as are expenditures on organizing and general defense.  

A little while back I wrote to the list asking for input on how to create a 
process for financial planning which can keep union expenditures withing some 
sort of budgeting framework.  Yet I'm surprised I have heard niether from you 
nor Chase nor other fiscal conservatives in the union.  Do you have any ideas 
on how to address this most blatant overspending in the union?  Are there no 
steps that you, as editor, can take to staunch the hemorrage of spending on 
the IW?  It's a worthy project surely, but it does need some clearer 
budgetting.  

This union needs a free flow of ideas in order to rework our infrastructure.  
When you speak up it's too often to say no to one thing or another.  I'm sure 
you have many constructive contributions to the current discourse.  To refuse 
to share them would seem to indicate that you are comfortable with the IWW's 
current identity as One Small Union.  Tell me it isn't so.

Solidarity,

Corin x343030
Santa Cruz GMB


Jon Bekken writes:
> 
> Fellow Workers,
> 
> Please, please can we have some thought before proposals like this
> get circulated?  FW Flank himself a rfew years ago noted reasons why
> the IWW should avoid entangling itself in the courts.  The GEB has
> already allocated funds for the lawsuit defense (last year) and
> received no receipts or accounting as required by the constitution.
> This proposal and FW Nihilson's "motion" are simply blank-check 
> proposals that would permit an unlimited amount of money to be
> spent defending existing suits, beginning new ones, appeals, etc.,
> without the least bit of union oversight over the legal strategy
> employed.
> 
> It is possible that the expenditures to date have been reasonable
> and that a thoughtful legal strategy has been employed.  Certainly
> there is no way for anyone to know that, since there has been no
> accounting (we don't even know how much has been raised).  And if
> the reports posted by FW Flank are an accurate account of the legal
> proceedings (and I do not mean to suggest that he would be deliberately
> misrepresenting things -- only to suggest that he might not fully
> understand the legal subtleties involved) that the legal strategy has
> been completely botched.  For example, there is very clear SUpreme
> Court ruling that no punitive damages can be assessed without
> finding actual damages.  To judge by the posting thus far, the
> attorney completely failed to point this out to the Judge, who would
> have to follow the very clear law on the matter or be subjected to
> disciplinary proceedings.  Anyone who knows libel law (as I do)
> cannot help but be struck by the very odd accounts that have been
> coming down throughout the entire proceedings.
> 
> Jon Bekken
> .-
> 


-- 
===: corin royal drummond :============: newt@cruzio.com :===: herbalist :===
===:                                                     :===: anarchist :===
===: health care necesitates revolutionary social change :===: wanderer  :===

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>From:  BRANDSTATTER <kevin.brandstatter@bbsrc.ac.uk>

>I would be very interested to hear how 72 hour referendums
>might work.

A Referendum when proposed,  can carry a time frame according to
the nature and subject.  For example emergency aid referendum
would be rushed through ASAP.  Less urgent matters, but on which
there is no need to wait  such as a expression of solidarity with
a campaign, resolution on the environment etc. etc. could proceed
in a week or two.

Also a referendum when proposed can specify secret or open vote.
Some questions need secrecy,  such as election of GA officers  (we
don't need to RUSH elections - we have lots of time to prepare in
advance).

A secret vote would proceed by the present,  paper-mail method,
combined with paper-secret votes in the branches with members
using the old sealed-envelope `ballot box' method.

This question of SECRECY in voting,  is the main  objection or
obstacle to  implementing fast,  multi-media referendums.
Therefore we need to consider just which kind of questions need
secrecy.

The principle of secret balot is so that an officer will not be
able to pressure, discriminate or take revenge on a member who
votes against the officer's opinion.  Or it may be not an officer,
but a clique  within the branch  who put pressure.

So the questions that require secrecy are those on which there is
potential serious controversy and undemocratic pressures being
brought against members for their vote.

Now,  any question at all has some potential for abuse.  It may be
a small question like  `Should our flag be blue?'  yet this might
be a pet project of some delegate,   who would become upset if a
member voted NO.

We have to recognize that there is a human interaction included in
any collective decision making.  To some extent a member has to be
willing to stand up openly against leaders and clique pressures,
and her right is backed up by appeal to the GA.

Even our present secret-mail system is not immune to influence.
Many members currently, don't know the background of a referendum,
so they are influenced by their delegate or branch-sec who
explains it to them.  We have seen it happen where a delegate will
get out and collect back dues, in order to have more votes on a
referendum from his branch.

There is no way to absolutely remove all such influence from the
decision making process.

However,  some security can be added by allowing members a choice
of where they vote  ---  they could vote to their near delegate,
or branch sec, or to any GEB member or directly to the GST.

[They would have to have their dues status vouched by the usual
means.]

To my mind it can be done useing the communication tools that
people use every day.

A slightly different procedure is used to VERIFY a vote according
to the means of communication by which the vote is received.

You might talk on the phone to FW Girling and he tells you his
vote.  You know it is him you are talking to because you know his
number and his voice and can hear his parrot talking.

You, as delegate/sec  write down his vote on a record.  Having
compiled all your branch's votes,  or facing the deadline, you
FAX, email, courier or telephone  your results to G.A.

How does GA know the fax/etc. comes from you?  A fax can include
delegate signature, as well as the fax-# origin where it is sent
from.  In Canada all fax machines have an unremovable code that
identifies the machine itself.

If telephone is used to communicate with GA, then it could be the
GA who calls the delegate [callback].  The GA has the delegate's
telephone number.

When telephone is used to communicate vote results, between a
delegate and GA  [the delegate and GA staff may be personaly
unknown to each other] then we simply rely on the delegate
knowing her delegate number,  as well as her member card no.   [So
if 2 delegates reported using  the same name/ del.#,  GA would
know something was wrong].

In this way,  it would even be possible for a delegate to use a
pay phone to report ballots with a collect call to GA --- the very
minimal communication that is available to even a street person,
in overdeveloped countries.

As you can see , each means of communication  uses a different way
of immediate identity-confirmation  so we know who we are dealing
with both at the branch level, and at the level between branch-GA.
This gets only slightly complicated, since there are really only 5
methods of communication.

Then there is a follow up when all the written records get in to
GA later,   a cross-check can be done to see if the written record
matches the fax/email/phone reports.  Where the names of the
voters are included, the GA can also contact individual members to
confirm how they voted.

########## Initial Confirmation methods  for votes   & vote
reports Member --> delegate/secretary del/sec --> GA

Delegates, when reporting votes must include the following
information for each member vote according to the means used for
voting.

GA, on receiving vote reports from delegates, must note the
following information according to the means by which the
vote-report is received.

1. Face to face verbal:  mem/del #s;  location, date-time.
2. Paper/Mail:   Signature & mem/del #;  return address; postmark.
3. Fax:  Originating fax #;  Signature;  mem-del #

4. Email:  Sender address;  mem-del#; CALLBACK.
5. Telephone:  Phone # of origin;  Mem-del#;  callback;  voice
recognition; GA records all incoming calls.

****Callback would not apply to a public-phonebooth call, but
could be used for del/sec. home-phone or branch phone

**** Voice recog. would apply mostly on local level.  Saved
recorded calls could conceivably be subjected to voiceprint
identity analysis in an extreme case.

**** Future option: It's possible to have a tel # which accepts
calls only FROM a chosen list of numbers.

**** Encryptation of email is possible, however I don't think
needed at this point.

########## 2nd [Follow-up]  Confirmation method A written record
sent to GA of all voting transactions,  by all those charged with
colecting votes.  Must include date-time of member votes; how
voting took place;  how it was confirmed or known to be valid by
the del/sec.;  if by phone, include phone # on which vote
communicated, if by face to face, include where, etc.

Without such info on the written record, the votes would be
declared invalid, retroactively by GA.

Now this ruling on a bunch of votes might happen a month after the
decision has been made and acted upon.  So we know that
referendums must each have its own guideline for time and methods
according to how important it is.

The GA  2nd level confirmation AFTER the fact,  provides a way to
expose any  false reporting on the part of a del or sec,  who can
then be removed by the local members.   The referendum would have
to be re-done, or if it has already been acted on, that is a
loss.

So the upshot is that any referendum question of weighty import,
lots of money,  requiring secrecy,  or simply a question that is
not urgent, can be slated to allow only  sealed-paper,  or certain
voting means according to the degree.  This is chosen by the
people initiating the referendum, and also we must have
guidelines,  for example requiring secret-paper for GA elections.

In the details this flexibility may sound a bit complex,  but it
boils down to two  areas:
1. methods of communication  (5 options)
2. levels of importance  (3 or 4 options)

Operating prodedures can  be drawn for both of these areas.

IN practice I think it will work as well as our present ssytem,
because these are familiar tools of communication,   and the
operating procedures are based on common sense :

1. Provide all the proof you can that this  vote is true.
2.  To what extent are speed, secrecy, or extensive discussion,
priorities?

Naturally those referendums chosen for  speedy process  would also
be announced/discussed by the same speedy methods.   Each branch
or regional delegate  has a  ``phone tree'' of ways to get in
touch with every member, and is required to attempt to do so.

But members initiating referendums would be able to choose the
timeline and methods.  So they might allow all vote-methods,  but
set the vote- time two months off in order to allow more
discussion and persuasion.

The 72 hour  process would include phone, fax, email,  in the
announcement and the voting.   This top-speed process should
probably be restricted to questions of emergency,  because it
requires some long distance phoning, and requires all delegates to
spend time & energy contacting members and reporting `on-demand'.

E-mail is cheap enough it wouldn't matter, but we don't have every
member on email.

There would also have to be a kind of buddy system where for
example, if a delegate was down visiting sunny Chiapas, the next
branch over would take over for her,  on the request of GA.

As for the GA end it would be a simple matter of  turning over
referendum initiatives to the delegates  [or to G.O.B.
accordingly];  compiling vote reports and reporting back the
totals;  and cross checking on the follow up reports.  Votes
received by GST would be processed same as any
delegate.@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

/><\  >\/<
> two members involved in health care now -

I would appreciate if you can get them to write somehting along
this line  to GST:

"I, (name, member number)  hereby petition the IWW to establish
the administration of  Health Service Workers Industrial Union
610." Send to GST.

Also encourage them to write in about their work situation/health
issues/ organizing prospects   to the IW, the GOB,  or to me.
}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}solidarity  Carlos Murray / Ottawa

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>Date: Wed, 22 Mar 95 15:17:30 PST
> From: Corin Royal Drummond <newt@cruzio.com>

 Financial Planing for the IWW

> For now, please post your responses to the list, later we can
> sumarize and open this discussion in the GOB.  ^^^^^^^^ Now
that's creative DEMOCRACY!  From the ground up.

>The idea of spending caps for each of the major union
> expenditures

HOW ,  specifically,  would we do it if we HAD to on our current
income?   Then we can take steps towards those efficient methods.

Then we can consider the extras beyond mere survival.

I suggest that 10 cents per member per year be set aside for the
worldwide 100th birthday party in 2005  :D

Carlos Murray Ottawa
IWW

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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

	 100%  in support of Corin's  GOB  format  plan!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No personal
attacks (unless charges w/evidence), abusive language or name
calling

Unity is made by respect.  Division is made by hostility.  Figure
it out.

We must not confuse the personal right of the individual to
feelings such as anger,  with the social rights of democratic
participation.  An individual has a right to express anger, but
not a right to abuse other people.

I reject the argument that working class people are less capable
of respect than the rich.

I reject the argument that pure freedom can exist in society.

Carlos Murray Ottawa
IWW

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Subject: rainy monday
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Hi there. Thanks for the reassuring message last week; you know how this mama
worries. Having a small moral dilemna today. It's raining (which we need badly)
so I can't work outside. It's a bummer in that Bert got about a quarter of the
3500 or so sq. ft. of planting space tilled and ready for the early stuff. Guess
I shouldn't complain; last yr. it was  so wet we couldn't  even get in to plow
it until June. Anyway, I sat up real late last night messing around on the
internet looking for geneaological shit and found an amazing amt. of stuff on
central Pa. I think I might be able to get material I would otherwise have to
spend months searching thru Pa. libraries for. I'm just not sure how the info
actually gets to me. Both compuserv and aol have FTP now. This is when I wish
you were right here to help me get started; feeling very unsure of myself, and
when I tried this am I couldn't even get on-line. Guess this must be one of
those late night projects. And I really should be starting more seeds (hence the
moral dilemna). But now my curiosity is so peaked that I can hardly stand it.
Where are you when I need you?  This must be the universe telling me to get out
the trays and dirt and get those seeds started. 
Have a good day and drop me a line SOON.    Love and hugs.......Bonnie


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Wowy, Zowy, FW's!
And thanks millions FW Nihilson.  We're going to beat the bosses yet.
Let's all raise our glasses to the Wobs of yesterday, today and tomorrow.
To the salt of the Earth,
Mike B)  

Don't just criticize; get yourself organized in the One Big Union.
Join the Wobblies! e-mail the IWW:  iww@igc.apc.org









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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 12:52:26 -0800 (PST)
From: Michael Ballard <miballar@leland.Stanford.EDU>
To: miballar@leland.Stanford.EDU
Subject: Spunk Addresses 

Fellow Worker,
These are the latest addresses for Spunk Press:

		@

	S P U N K  P R E S S

Spunk Press is an electronic archive of anarchist and related materials.
It is available on the internet as follows:

to ftp: etext.archive.umich.edu		/pub/Politics/Spunk	

to WWW: http://www.cwi.nl/cwi/people/Jack.Jansen/spunk/Spunk_Home.html

to gopher: gopher etext.archive.umich.edu
Also
  WWW catalogue:  http://www.cwi.nl/cwi/people/Jack.Jansen/spunk/Catalog.html
To receive regular information about Spunk Press, subscribe to our
information mailing list by sending a message to 
spunk-info-request@lysator.liu.se
Email IWW specific material to miballar@leland.stanford.edu.us
Email any other material and corrections to spunk@locust.cic.net

For the works!
Mike Ballard
X334260







From deke@wps.com Mon Mar 27 20:12:26 1995
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From: "Michael D. Damore" <mdamore@moose.uvm.edu>
To: Deke Motif Nihilson <deke@wps.com>
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Let's make this quick.  I agree there is absolutely no question about 
this.  I vote yes, in fact I vote YES!!!!!!!!!!!  on DN8.  It is a shame 
that an IWW organizer must beg for money to avoid owing a total slim bag 
$10 grand.

The prioirities of some people in this union are sadly misplaced when the 
figures that Bob Helms reported in a recent post are the finances of this 
union.  Let's stop treating this union as a fucking club.  Do we want to 
effect the status of workers in this country and this world or do we want 
to stand around and tell stories about Spain all day.  I bet your saying 
"he's getting a bit off the subject..." damn right I am because I have 
sat by and been comradely to all of the armchair anarchists in this union 
for too fucking long, while they play games kissing constitutions and 
acting like dictators with money.  This is more than just Lenny's 
situation, this issue is just the final straw of a sad situation.  If I 
had just signed up with the IWW and knew nothing about this organization, 
I would fucking quit tomorrow because it would be blatently obvious that 
the big shots care more about a paper than getting job shops and more 
members in the union.
	Yep that's it folks, just slap an IW in the hands of some 
unsuspecting worker and before you know it s/he will be rushing around 
screaming "eureka, the working class and the employing class have nothing 
in common -- I've seen the light!!!"  On the off hand chance that oesn't 
work give 'em a songbook and they'll really take off.  I don't care how 
many times people say it -- that shit is NOT organizing.  Organizing is 
what Corin is doing in SC, what we did in the LV and what the SF wobs did 
at the End Up.  Its also Kinko's, Philly Wobs, Film workers, POC, 
People's Warehouse, Medicino County, Salt Lake, and dozens more I cannot 
think of right now,  My respect to all who've done it, but come on -- the IW?

Pissed off and proud of it,
Mike

On Wed, 22 Mar 1995, Deke Motif Nihilson wrote:

> > Fellow and Sister Workers,
> > 
> > 	By the way, I believe that Len Flank's lawyer should be paid in 
> > full, and that this should be done immediately.  
> > 
> > 						In Solidarity, 
> > 
> > 						Bob Helms X341465
> 
> Lenny's posts lately have slaughtered any doubt I'd otherwise have, and 
> FW Helms here catalyzes the obvious demands of simple justice. This 
> cannot wait for a next monthly report; please consider it supplemental, 
> it will be reflected in my next regular report. Please do the kindness of 
> letting the GEBster nearest you know about it, and vote accordingly ASAP:
> 
> OFFICIAL BOARD MOTION, 21 March 1995 e.v.
> 
> DN8: The GEB of the IWW hereby compels and requires that the full legal 
> expenses of FW Lenny Flank, X341341 L.V. GMB/Boulevard Bingo Dispute 
> Delegate, be covered by the General Administration of the IWW, expenses 
> in full to be paid from the Nelson funds and full authority of 
> expenditures to be retained by FW Flank and such committee of members in 
> good standing as he may gather around him, all decisions of which to be 
> made by fully democratic vote (consensus recommended).
> 
> 
> 
> P.S. If that's too ostentatious for the full four votes decency demands 
> of this board, I shall render it even more bluntly, and/or fully welcome and 
> entertain (truly) Friendly Amendments. My aim is to be as clear as 
> possible within the demands of the IMMEDIATE EMERGENCY. 
> 
> (If) SOLIDARITY (Means Anything),
> Deke Motif Nihilson, X341697
> of the Dick-Head GEB
> 
> Special P.S. :  Academic Quote Du Jour:
> 
> "Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish."  --Euripides
> 
> 

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Pluralism and Vanguardism Once Again in Conflict Within Love and Rage


I'm am encouraged about the current state of Love and Rage RAF after reading 
the March FedBull.  Therein members were telling stories about their 
participation in groups like the Comittee for Democracy in Mexico, Committee 
Seeking Equal Justice, and Abortion Rights groups.  Before the last FedBull I 
felt like Love and Ragers were more hung up on articulating exactly the right 
political positions than actually getting their hands sullied by difficult 
coalition activism.  As has been stated many times, L&R has an elitist & 
vanguardist reputation, but the stories I was hearing from people in the 
FedBull described honest colaboration with a range of groups which were 
neither all-white, nor all male, nor all North American.  Wow, seems like L&R 
is walking their talk.  Makes me feel like I want to participate again, even 
though I have my hands full with the Industrial Workers of the World 
organizing I've been doing, and the personal consequences of loosing my house 
and job because I got fired from my herb store for shop floor organizing with 
co-workers.  

Just when I'm feeling better about the state of Love and Rage, I read the 
editorial in the March/April issue of the english newspaper.  Written by the 
coordinating committee, this editorial puported to be the official 'position' 
of the L&R RAF.  Given that the editorial did a poor job of representing my 
perspective, I suggest that it is at best premature, at worst pretensious to 
be writing pieces which purport to be the official position of the group.  
While I'm pleased that there seem to be some points of consensus coalescing 
within L&R, I think the editorial made us out to be more unified then we 
are.   Especially with such overwraught language like, "...revolutionary 
pluralism, is the position Love and Rage has arrived at after six years of 
debate and struggle."  Well aren't we just SO fabulous. 

Instead of editorials purporting to speak for us all, why don't we just have 
opinion pieces without such pretensions.  Wouldn't it be more pluralistic and 
less vanguardist to present ourselves in this way?  What are we trying to 
prove anyway?  

The title of the editorial suggested that it would be a contribution toward 
understanding what sort of revolutionary organizations are likely to be 
effective given current conditions.  Yet the editorial's criticisms of Marxist 
movement and the general North American Anarchist scene ammounted to 
dismissals, while Love and Rage touted it's own unique concoction, 
"revolutionary pluralism," as the only form of revolutionary organization that 
had any merit.  This is an example of the kind of vanguardism the editorial 
specifically criticises.  The editorial did not weigh the pros and cons of 
differing strategies and ideologies.  It did not, for example acknowledge the 
importance of Marxist contributions toward class analysis, nor of infoshops as 
resource centers with the potential to radicalize 'reproles'.  Love and Rage 
merely assasinated these rival perspectives in order to justify it's own 
existence and methods.  

Thus once again, Love and Rage betrays it's own aims.  Just as the notoriously 
undemocratic decision making at the San Diego conference birthed it's current 
incarnation as a democratic federation of anarchists,  Love and Rage now 
denounces vanguardism while practicing it in the form of a self-aggrandising 
editorial advocating a 'revolutionary pluralism' which the editorial itself 
disdains to practice.  The tone of the editorial is condescending. "We must 
tell you what is the proper form of revolutionary organization because none 
but us are even close to practicing it."  

I agree with the criticisms the coordinating committee makes of Marxist 
revolutionary organizations, of the limitations of movements with single issue 
approaches, and of the lifestylism characterizing much of the current North 
American anarchist milieu.  But the pluralism the CC advocates requires that 
we acknowlege the contributions of each of these groupings while encouraging 
them to transcend their limitations.  All the editorial accomplished was to 
bludgeon our comrades and assert our own evolving viewpoint as though it were 
THE one and only truth.  Indeed, the three working group foci are hardly 
gospel.  They are three sensible areas of work, that were chosen somewhat 
arbitrarily.  Yet they are mentioned at the end of the editorial as 'guides' 
toward revolution.  Isn't this a bit overstated?  

The dismissive comments about the North American anarchist scene struck my 
housemate Eric and me as retributive for the excessive attacks on Love and 
Rage from papers like the Fifth Estate and Anarchy.  Love and Rage has some 
good things going, but we're not as different from the rest of the anarchist 
scene as the editorial would have us believe.  There is plenty to criticise 
within Love and Rage just as there is plenty to criticise in the infoshop 
movement, or the Industrial Workers of the World, or what ever group one 
chooses to focus on.  

The infoshop movement, for one, deserves far more credit than they got in that 
editorial.  Sure the scene is rife with punk rock lifestylists with little 
criticism of white supremacy or classism.  Certainly this is a serious 
deficiency.  But infoshops do serve as resource centers for activists.  They 
offer meeting space, literature, access to networks of activists & 
organizations.  Love and Rage would do well to work with these groups.  They 
supplement our own deficencies in these areas, just as the critiques of white 
supremacy and classism--which are enough a part of Love and Rage to have 
attracted me to the group--have the potential to open infoshops to whole new 
sectors of activists who don't now have access.  Pluralism, right on!  Let's 
start practicing what we preach.  

We members of the federation have our work cut out for us if we are to repair 
our tattered reputation.  We must prove by deed that we are serious about 
coalitioning.  How are infoshop folks to trust us after such a petty attack.  
It's small wonder our name evokes revulsion.  It's time to drop the pedantic 
and pretensious attitudes this editorial articulated, and time to place 
ourselves in the service of our comrades outside Love and Rage so that 
together we can build strong, truly pluralistic, revolutionary coalitions.  

Corin Royal Drummond
In conversation with Eric Gross,
Together constituting the Mothra Affinity Group,
Santa Cruz California,
3/27/95 11:41:42 PM







-- 
===: corin royal drummond :============: newt@cruzio.com :===: herbalist :===
===:                                                     :===: anarchist :===
===: health care necesitates revolutionary social change :===: wanderer  :===

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I want to correct a misunderstanding that seems to have arisen among
some people I have talked to about the lawsuit situation.  Some people
seem to have gottne the impression that the money I am asking for from
the GEB is to be used to file our own lawsuits against the bingo bosses.
While it is true that the LV Branch and the bingo workers have voted to
file some lawsuits of our own  if the opportunity arises, we have not
done so yet and will not do so, if we do at all, for at least five or
six months.  The funding request pending before the GEB has nothing
whatsoever to do with filing any lawsuits of our own.

When the bingo bosses first filed suit against me, I frantically
searched the entire Lehigh Valley for a lawyer who would be willing to
defend me pro bono.  The first lawyer I went to was Fred Rooney, a
member of the Lawyer's Guild who has helped the LV IWW out in the past.
Fred was very up front in telling us that, although he was willing to
give us occasional advice when we asked, if he were to take on any
serious cases for us we would have to come up with money.  The next
three or four lawyers I talked to all agreed happily that they would
take the case--for $15,000 up front.  I even gave serious consideration
to asking fellow IWW member Marc Janowitz to represent me, but that
would be an unworklable situation since Marc is in California and I am
in Pennsylvania (Marc has played a role by providing advice whenever we
needed it).  I finally found attorney Doug Kunkle, who was impressed by
our dedication to helping the bingo workers and who agreed to take on
the defense for $1,500 .   A large portion of this money came from the
GEB.  The rest came from the legal defense/offense committee which we
set up.

The defense committee has so far raised a bit less than $2000.  Of this,
$500 went directly to the lawyer.  Another $450 went to pay for a
deposition of bingo owner Joe Fillman.  After paying for a search at the
Morning Call newspaper library and some fax and travel expenses to
Philadelphia, we have around $750 left in the defense fund.  This is
needed to pay for the transcript of the trial so we can file a motion
for a directed verdict on the grounds that the jury was impropoerly
instructed and concluded that no damages had occurred.   We still owe
about $100 for fax expenses and other research expenses.  All of these
wree expenses connected with defending the original lawsuit.  NONE of
this money has gone for filing any lawsuits of our own, nor has any
money yet gone towards appealing the lawsuit (other than the costs of
the trial transcript).

As of this moment, there is a judgement against me for $10,000--a
judgement which we are certain can be reversed upon appeal.  As of right
now, I have three choices.  I can (1) pay the $10,000 to the bingo
bosses and shut up.  That would make both the bingo bosses and
apparently the GEB very happy.  Or I can (2) not pay the $10,000 (I
don't happen to have it lying around anyway), which would cause the
court to place a lien against any car, wages, etc I ever get in the
future.  That would make the bosses not so happy, but would make the GEB
very happy.  Or I could (3) fight the judgement by appealing, have the
ruling thrown out, and not owe anybody anything.  That would make ME
happy, would really piss of the bingo bosses, but is apparently what the
GEb does NOT want me to do (unless I can pay for it myself).

So let me be excruciatingly clear on this point--the $2000 that is being
requested is solely and completely for the purpose of appealing the
bogus judgement against me.  The money is to be used solely and
completely for expenses and lawyer costs associated with appealing this
judgement.  Not a single solitary dime of it is to be used to sue the
bingo bosses, the FBI, the GEB or anybody else.  If we decide to go
ahead with such a series of lawsuits, we will raise the money for them
ourselves through the defense fund (and when we win that six-figure
judgement, we promise to do what the GEb has refused to do--provide IWW
organizers with the resources they need to organize).


Lenny Flank
X341341

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From: "X341697 (Deke Nihilson)" <deke@fletcher.iww.org>
To: iww-list@wps.com
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Subject: About All This Coercion...
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ABOUT ALL THIS `COERCIVE' LANGUAGE

There are those who complain that the language of my GEB motions is 
overly coercive, seeking to "compel," "officiate" and otherwise "bind" 
the Union in some matter or another. I would first ask those detractors 
just what they think an EXECUTIVE board exists to do? I would assert 
(ahem) that that is exactly the function of the GEB, for better or 
(often) for worse, and that such language merely renders explicit the 
processes involved in such a body as the GEB. This is not to say that I 
particularly *like* such behavior, at least not without a lot of mutual 
consent and a few "safe words," but it was going on when I got here and 
in no sense has this been a safe, sane OR consensual process within the 
Union. So what's a girl to do?

I would further point out that what I seek to `compel' etc. is this
organization itself, and especially its well-fed bureaucracy, not any
particular member herein. I find it the height of, um, irony that those
who have been so publicly upset by such language in my motions are often
seeking, implicitly, to coerce or bind or whatever, individuals and
"subordinate" entities within the Union, and often confusing the two in
the process to boot (the Philadelphia GMB is a textbook example). I find
the subliminal message in this to be "You'd better behave, but don't tell
*me* what to do"-- as if their liberty as a once or future executive of
the OBU is on the line! Like we say in my neighborhood, "Oh PLEASE,
Mary..."  This sort of cloying, one-sided libertarianism is exactly my 
beef with, for example, anarcho-capitalists, though I'm no bigot, some of 
my best friends etc. etc.

As much as I love our Union, it is unfortunate that such "coercive" 
language continues to be necessary-- but it is merely the form of the
functions served by such entities as an Executive Board and a
Headquarters, all so full of Generals and their generalities, so many of
whom primarily occupy themselves by playing Boss of a very generalized
budget (but not for you!), doling scraps of money and subsequent
persecution to organizers within the Union (lowly GMBs etc.). In this
context, I seek to compel the Union in another, different-than-that
direction-- and hey, that's about all a spot on the GEB is good for.
Meanwhile, myriad are the examples of the GEB being ignored by the
membership, the GHQ, and even itself-- I've characterized this as "going
through the motions," more and less literally. Oh, let me be more specific
than all that... 

Look, okay, I'm pretty unabashedly an anarchist, folks. My leadership 
style is thusly: I am relentlessly fabulous, and encourage others around 
me to be likewise because they can be, and should settle for nothing less 
in their lives and worlds. I bust my ass and ask for help a lot. I 
involve myself in supporting others, not *just* financially if and when 
possible, without subsequent coercion, but also in the efforts of my own 
life and work. This is something akin to the leadership of initiative, 
except maybe a little more existential. It is in this sense that I assert 
(ahem) that we are *all* leaders, or could be, or should be if a better 
world is truly our aim in all this. 

I do not pretend that such leadership is really possible in such an 
outdated format as the GEB. What I do pretend is that playing a role on such 
a board can be a way to hold the line against the implicitly coercive 
behaviors of those who would hold such roles in order to control access 
to resources like the Anderson and Nelson bequests, and to maintain that 
control by persecuting anyone who has gained access to those resources in 
the past, other than their own particular projects of course.

Is this clear enough? Or shall I be encouraged to be even more blunt?

In All the Solidarity You Can Endure,
--Deke Motif Nihilson, X341697
28 March 1995 Era Vulgaris

P.S. I'll be sure to append this to my next Executive Report, for the 
sake of sweet, if general, clarity.  *:)

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Fred:
	I'd like to second Mike Ballard's idea about publishing it in the 
Nelson and Anderson wills in the GOB.  I think its important for the 
membership to have this info since so many funding votes go to 
referendum.  Thanks.

Soli,

Mike

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> There really isn't much the IWW can do to 
> support the struggles of the oppressed of Mexico.  If we were larger,
> maybe we could mount a general strike in support of the Zapatistas or
> in opposition to the so-called NAFTA.  But as it stands now, IMHO the
> best thing we can do as Wobs is to organize more workers in to the IWW
> or, if one really feels the need, you could do a direct action and drive
> a jeep or truck full of medical supplies down to Chiapas.  I can see it

As Subcomandante Marcos has said, the best way for non-Mexicans to help 
the Zapatistas is to become Zapatistas in their own countries.  Todos 
somos Marcos!

-Maria T.
Seattle
helchick@carson.u.washington.edu


From mdamore@moose.uvm.edu Tue Mar 28 13:20:03 1995
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From: "Michael D. Damore" <mdamore@moose.uvm.edu>
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Dear Deke:
	I'm back in VT and on-line capable once again.  While I have you 
on the line, I need to get Bill Meyers' email address again, since I lost 
the letter he sent to us.  Could you forward it please.

Soli,

Mike

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Hi guy. You ain't gonna believe this (and maybe don't want to); I think I've
found out how to get all those wonderful family history files aol dangled in
front of me. The mormons have all that shit on microfilm that can be "rented"
and viewed at their family history centers. And, yes, there's one right here in
Asheville!  Just talked with a guy at the local stake (yes, that's what they
call them) who was very pleasant and said that they do indeed have those
records. Seems their numbers don't quite correspond with the on-line ones, but
as long as I have the names of the records, they can get them from Salt Lake
City. So it seems that the index list is just that - a list, but at least now I
know where to look. Then the guy started asking me how I found this on the
internet. Seems he has a computer and a modem but has just never used it.
Wouldn't it be interesting if I have something he might be able to use?
Unfortunately the office isn't open on Wednesdays and I have to wait until Sat.
to go there, and you know how impatient I can be. Hot on the trail of those
German (and perhaps Welsh) ancestors again.  No I didn't try to e-mail that
other place yet. Got so bummed out that I went outside to play in the sunshine
for awhile. But thanks anyway for your help. It's so nice to have an expert in
the family. Gonna go back outside - there's an elusive patch of dwarf crested
irises in the woods that I've been looking for.  Take care.  Love and
hugs.........Bonnie


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From: Michael Ballard <miballar@leland.Stanford.EDU>
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On Tue, 28 Mar 1995, Michael D. Damore wrote:

> Why not support this?  I think this duty may fall on the SFGMB as the GEB 
> would never get a solidarity motion passed by April, 1.  Besides who 
> needs the GEB, they're just a bunch of bureaucratic gas bags.  Seriously, 
> this is definitely a branch thing to support or not.
> 
> Soli,
> Mike
> 
Thanks.  I'll pass the advice on to Deke who is able to attend the
SFGMB meeting more often than I.
Mike

Don't just criticize; get yourself organized in the One Big Union.
Join the Wobblies! e-mail the IWW:  iww@igc.apc.org









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From: Michael Ballard <miballar@leland.Stanford.EDU>
To: Justin Woodruff <woodruff@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>
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Justin,

Why not write an article in the "IW" about the situation in E.Timor
and then post it to the net--usenet newsgroups--as both an ad for the
"IW" and an appeal for funds.  Don't forget to send a copy to FW Bekken
for final printing.
Solidarity,
Mike B)

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From deke Tue Mar 28 15:32:17 1995
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From: Deke Motif Nihilson <deke@wps.com>
To: Michael Ballard <miballar@leland.Stanford.EDU>
cc: "Michael D. Damore" <mdamore@moose.uvm.edu>,
        Deke Motif Nihilson <deke@wps.com>
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On Tue, 28 Mar 1995, Michael Ballard wrote:
>> that
>> On Tue, 28 Mar 1995, Michael D. Damore wrote:
> 
> > Why not support this?  I think this duty may fall on the SFGMB as the GEB 
> > would never get a solidarity motion passed by April, 1.  Besides who 
> > needs the GEB, they're just a bunch of bureaucratic gas bags.  Seriously, 
> > this is definitely a branch thing to support or not.
> > 
> > Soli,
> > Mike
> > 
To which FW Ballars responded
> Thanks.  I'll pass the advice on to Deke who is able to attend the
> SFGMB meeting more often than I.
> Mike

And then Deke said:

Especially when people on the Board refuse to use any technology more 
modern than the postal system to conduct Pressing Board Business with! 

But meanwhile, we are a branch that is in recovery from four years of 
running GHQ; we can't do anything that quickly, either!   *:)

Our branch meeting is the third Sat. of every month; the next one's the 
16th of April. The next one will be the first in *at least* a calendar 
year to be held in the East Bay (remember that? the other half of our 
branch-- where all the job shops are...)

As I said, we're in recovery. One meeting at a time  *:)

Soli,
--Deke

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Fred Chase writes:
> From dub-img-3.compuserve.com!compuserve.com!73174.77 Tue Mar 28 17:39:43 1995
> Date: 28 Mar 95 20:40:22 EST
> From: Fred Chase <73174.77@compuserve.com>
> To: Corin Royal Drummond <newt@cruzio.com>
> Subject: Re: GOB Redesign, and financial planning
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> 
> Yes, you should expect a reply.  Be assured that while I'm doing my best to
> answer every communication from every Wob, you are hearing from me more often
> than most. 
> 	I think budgeting is a good idea.  Now all we have to figure out is who
> is going to do it and how they're going to get together in this far flung union.
> Believe me, I'm pinching every penny I can, and we are still engaged in deficit
> spending. Before the bequests which have caused as many problems as they have
> solved, the union functioned on a much closer to volunteer basis.  And the work
> didn't get done.  Cards sent in for stamps got stuck in boxes in corners.
> Communication was haphazard at best.  Servicing the membership is not cheap.
> Personally, I think any budget which sent GHQ begging would be a mistake.  We
> need GHQ to meet the requirements of the Gov't. without which we would have to
> re-invent the wheel with every organizing drive.  We need it as a focus of
> communication for new members who are not close to functioning branches - And
> that constitutes at least 50% of the membership.  We need it as a place for
> people to contact who have just heard that the IWW is still alive.  And most of
> them hear that from the IW.  
> 	Without the IW and GHQ it is my assessment that the IWW would cease to
> function as an international union.  I expect that it would become a few
> regional groupings which would eventually fade to non-existence as their most
> energetic organizers moved on to other projects.  It has been tried in the past.
> And those who left to form a less centralized, less bureaucratic union (and I
> find it hard to imagine one surviving which is less centralized and less
> bureaucratic than the IWW)  are no longer around.
> 	So while I'm in favor of budgeting, I'll be opposed to any budget which
> does not recognize the Union's need for an international office and a newspaper.
> I'll try to respond more directly to your previous send in the near future.  But
> I have to divide my time between 400 members who expect my attention.  So it
> will be asap, but not tomorrow.
> 
> 			Solidarity,
> 
> 		            Fred
> 
> .-
> 


-- 
===: corin royal drummond :============: newt@cruzio.com :===: herbalist :===
===:                                                     :===: anarchist :===
===: health care necesitates revolutionary social change :===: wanderer  :===

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Never let it be said that I lack the spirit of solidarity for my fellow
revolutionaries around the globe.  The Zapatistas in Mexico deserve all
the kudos, pledges of solidarity etc etc etc that they've been getting.

But please folks, let us not forget that there are those of us here in
the UNITED STATES who are also trying to fight the good fight and could
use some help doing it.  I think sending solidarity and maybe money to
the Zapatistas is a laudible and wodnerful thing.  But let's also
remember that there are plenty of WOBBLIES who are in some pretty tight
spots (Corin Drummond as well as yours truly) who could use some help
too.

Lenny Flank
X341341

From deke@wps.com Tue Mar 28 22:09:15 1995
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I would like to start by saying I understand why some members are angry and
frustrated with what has been going back and forth on this subject.  I feel
we all can do without the personal attacks on all our fellow workers.  Though
we may not all agree on things there is no reason to resort to inuendo or
name calling from any members,  We are all in these fights togeather even if
we have different views on how  to go about it.

FW Flank has gotten into a heap of trouble by fighting  for the IWW and I do
not feel that we as a Union can not stand behind him.  With whatever
finances, legal, and moral support we can give him.  I also understand that
alot of things in the past have made many people weary of handing out money
and some with good reason . We can work around it so we are not dooped again,
and do not destroy the faith we have in our FW.  We can learn from our
mistakes without hurting the principles of the Union or our members out their
fighting for the IWW.

Flanks situation does not differ that much from the jailing of our past FW's.
 But, not because we do not trust him or any of our members, but to keep
specualtion and accusations out of the picture I feel that it would be
possible to set up a legal fund, where bills for the defense could be sent
directly to GHQ and paid from there.  Records would show payments being made
to Courts, Lawyers, etc.. If Fred Chase would not mind taking on the extra
bookeeping, this would also give FW Flank time to devote to internal fund
raising and fighting his and our fight.  The Unions money is dwindling fast
but if our last dime was spent in refusing to give into the Bosses and
keeping a fellow organizer from being brought down, I feel that we will find
a way to continue operating.  For 90 years this union has scraped by and as
far as I can see we have never forgotten a FW who was in a legal battle.
 Even when there was no mony and our FW's before us were unjustly spending
long terms in prision, the Union managed to find a way to continue to fight
for them and help support their families.

We are brothers and sisters in this and we will have our disagreements and we
don't all have to be best friends but a mutaul respect must be shown to ALL
our FW in this Union.  I ask that we put our personality differences aside
and fight the BOSSES not each other. The GEB is doing what they feel is best
with what knowledge they have,  and when we disagree with their decisions or
reasoning we still should be able to discuss and vote as rank & file without
offending.  These are not personal issues but Union business.

In Solidarity
Jenn Madsen
X341369

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Subject: Let's talk...
To: tomj@wps.com (Tom Jennings)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 22:37:47 -0800 (PST)
Cc: deke@wps.com (Deke Motif Nihilson)
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Dear Tom,

I would very much like you to consider hiring me for your 
operations in San Jose. I fully intend to visit San Francisco as 
soon as I can to talk to you face to face, but I wish to give you 
some background in the meantime to let you know who I am, what my 
background is, and why I am interested.

My computer background is as follows. My first programming 
experience was on a TRS-80 back in 1978, on which I learned BASIC 
& Z-80 assembly language. In 1980, I obtained a 64K Apple II with 
a disk system, on which I learned Apple UCSD Pascal. When I 
entered New College (Sarasota, FL), and later the University of 
South Florida, I became familiar with the Macintosh and used an 
IBM mainframe. I graduated from the University of South Florida 
(Tampa, FL) with an M.A. in mathematics in 1991. During a brief 
stint in the University of Florida (Gainesville, FL), I had a Unix
account on the math department's network of Sun workstations, on 
which I gained a passing familiarity with Unix & X-windows. I have
since gained a solid working knowledge of Unix from my access to 
UCSC & to fido. When Alexander's motherboard died, I scavenged the
peripherals & assembled a new system (Alexandra) using a 386SX 
motherboard. On this system, I have gained a solid working 
knowledge of MS-DOS & Windows, as well as Turbo Pascal.

In the past two years, I became a Wobbly activist, and have made 
it a major goal to improve computer & internet access to my 
community. I live in a two-room apartment, in which one of the 
rooms serves as the Santa Cruz IWW branch's computer center. 
Currently it holds a Macintosh and a 386-based system, on which I 
have been training several Wobs & others on how to do word 
processing & get onto the internet. We just began keeping track of
usage, and these systems have been used daily by an average of 
three people per day.

My goals for this center are to set up a server with a modem pool,
establish a LAN, and set up a web site. Towards this end I have 
been working with four other fellow workers on an internet 
cooperative. One has extensive hardware experience, one has 
connections to inexpensive Ethernet hardware, one is a library 
science major with extensive interest & knowledge of the internet,
& the fourth has done consulting in San Diego. We are only a few 
weeks away from gaving a part-time SLIP or PPP server.

Thus, I am excited by the possibility of learning all I can about 
internet connectivity from the provider end, because that will 
support these goals in Santa Cruz. I am committed to getting as 
many people as I can on-line, and to being a provider & supporting
others as providers, because I believe it's the best hope that the
internet will remain decentralized & open. I believe that I can 
make a contribution to what you're doing because I'm already 
committed to learning this stuff anyway.

Thanks,

Chris Pedonesi, a.k.a. Crys-Vad Hyphus



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So now "FW" Bekken is threatening to file charges against "FW" Chase if
he pays up the money that the GEB voted for my legal defense.  Hmm, "FW"
Bekken filing charges against fellow wobblies . . . now THERE's
something that doesn't happen every day . . .

How about the IWW's illegal practice of using dues money to finance the
Industrial Worker, Jon?  Gonna be filing any charges over that?  What
about the use of Nelson funds to support the newspaper, in direct
violation of the conditions under which this money was given to teh IWW
(the money is specifically and explcitly marked for "organizing"--which
is something that neither the Industrial Worker nor "FW" Bekken have
ever done).  Gonna file any charges over THAT?   Hmm . . . didn't think
so.

Jon, in your mission as self-appointed Pope and in your skills and
adeptness at using bureaucratic and procedural nuances to beat those who
disagree with you into submission, you are worthy of the most
authoritarian Leninists I have ever met.  You make those in the SWP and
PLP look like rank amateurs in comparison.

Is it true, Jon, that you have driven several times as many members OUT
of the IWW as you have ever signed up (indeed, have you ever signed up
ANYBODY)?

Do you get paid by the FBI to create dissension and resntment within the
IWW, Jon, or do you do it just because you enjoy it?

Please be assured, Jon, that if you file ANYTHING against Fred for
supporting me in my fight against the bosses, I will do everything in my
ability to defefnd him against the charges and to have you expelled for
making them.  I am tired of seeing you function as the self-appointed
"defender of the faith", and I am particularly tired of seeing you
dispense your wisdom (backed up by your threats) to organizers in this
union when you yurself have not, to my knowledge, ever organzied a
single solitary job shop in your entire life (or even signed up a
significant number of IWW members).  Keep your authoritarian
weiner-wanking to yourself.


Lenny Flank
X341341


PS--To everyone else--This is NOT a personal attack.  This is a
desperate plea to save the "union" from what is its single most
disruptive influence at the current time.

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Greetings sister Worker!
	Your suggestions and your strong committment to the union's duty 
to its organizer is very encouraging to find on my screen this morning.  
I agree that personalized language and the questioning of motives can 
really poison internal relations, but there's no ignoring one's feelings 
sometimes.  when a person or a tiny local group create spend years of 
life and energy waging battles in the union's name, and actually gain 
ground for the cause, it is enfuriating and bitterly discouraging to be 
left hanging out on the line and for the local organizer's actions to be 
coldly (and sometimes very clumsily) examined by others who act like, but 
shouldn't act like commanding officers.
	With that said, I think that we agree on almost everything you 
covered.  I would clarify this, howver:  The expenses encurred by Len 
Flank's defense effort are the outstanding bills of this union.  There is 
no sense in which this isn't so, legally, ethically, logically, or in any 
way at all.  For fred Chase to leave any part of it unpaid is just as 
wrong as if I was sharing a house with someone and refused to write a 
check to repair the roof, and used my designation as treasurer to argue 
the point where no argument was called for.  Here's why Len raises harsh 
objections when he says $2000 and the GHQ says $1000.  
	The bookkeeping is another thing.  In my opinion, Len Should keep 
his own books, and should continue to report to the union as he has 
always done in the past.  If the general feeling among us that the GST 
needs to keep exact records, the xeroxed receipts in quarterly statements 
AFTER the fact of Len Flank's decisions, and AFTER an adequate fund has 
been put at his disposal, is roughly where the cards belong.
	Again, I am very happy that you have entered the dialog.  Some of 
my own input has been harsh, and there are times when I wonder how many 
of the union's members are thinking about what's being said and care 
about how things will go.  Thank you for reminding us that harsh language 
should be avoided whenever possible.  

					In Solidarity, 
					Bob Helms  X341465
					Philadelphia GMB

On Wed, 29 Mar 1995 Jenn1ww@aol.com wrote:

> I would like to start by saying I understand why some members are angry and
> frustrated with what has been going back and forth on this subject.  I feel
> we all can do without the personal attacks on all our fellow workers.  Though
> we may not all agree on things there is no reason to resort to inuendo or
> name calling from any members,  We are all in these fights togeather even if
> we have different views on how  to go about it.
> 
> FW Flank has gotten into a heap of trouble by fighting  for the IWW and I do
> not feel that we as a Union can not stand behind him.  With whatever
> finances, legal, and moral support we can give him.  I also understand that
> alot of things in the past have made many people weary of handing out money
> and some with good reason . We can work around it so we are not dooped again,
> and do not destroy the faith we have in our FW.  We can learn from our
> mistakes without hurting the principles of the Union or our members out their
> fighting for the IWW.
> 
> Flanks situation does not differ that much from the jailing of our past FW's.
>  But, not because we do not trust him or any of our members, but to keep
> specualtion and accusations out of the picture I feel that it would be
> possible to set up a legal fund, where bills for the defense could be sent
> directly to GHQ and paid from there.  Records would show payments being made
> to Courts, Lawyers, etc.. If Fred Chase would not mind taking on the extra
> bookeeping, this would also give FW Flank time to devote to internal fund
> raising and fighting his and our fight.  The Unions money is dwindling fast
> but if our last dime was spent in refusing to give into the Bosses and
> keeping a fellow organizer from being brought down, I feel that we will find
> a way to continue operating.  For 90 years this union has scraped by and as
> far as I can see we have never forgotten a FW who was in a legal battle.
>  Even when there was no mony and our FW's before us were unjustly spending
> long terms in prision, the Union managed to find a way to continue to fight
> for them and help support their families.
> 
> We are brothers and sisters in this and we will have our disagreements and we
> don't all have to be best friends but a mutaul respect must be shown to ALL
> our FW in this Union.  I ask that we put our personality differences aside
> and fight the BOSSES not each other. The GEB is doing what they feel is best
> with what knowledge they have,  and when we disagree with their decisions or
> reasoning we still should be able to discuss and vote as rank & file without
> offending.  These are not personal issues but Union business.
> 
> In Solidarity
> Jenn Madsen
> X341369
> 

From deke@wps.com Wed Mar 29 10:13:53 1995
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Dear Jenn:
	I don't see why the Defense Fund should be run from the GA.  This 
in my opinion is just needless since the Lehigh Valley has done a fine 
job of handling the money for the legal battle so far.  The problem with 
central control is not only that it leads to elitism, but its slow as 
shit.  Let's face it, there are always going to be those days when a bill 
needs to be paid on that day, and waiting for it to get sent to Ann Arbor 
signed by two people and sent back is just not possible.
	I also feel that the control of money by GA is problematic to the 
free decision making of the locality.  This point is best illustrated 
when we look at Fred (and Bob Rush before him) and his continued defiance 
of a valid GEB motion to send $1000 to the POC.  Now, I don't wnat to get 
into that here, and I don't want to knock Fred too hard because his job 
sucks, but I'm using it as an example.  GA has no business passing 
judgement over local decision making within a project that was funded.  
Flexibility is as important as accountability, and believe me both are 
important to building an organization of equals.

In Solidarity,
Mike

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So how does it work for someone to get an account on fletcher.org?
I mean,  would I have to dial long distance phone to get on?

I don't think I need an account there.  I just wonder how it works
for people who don't live near SCz.

Listen,  we are gonna want a IU 610 mailing-list  fairly soon.  I
could start up right away, but I'm still trying to catch up on
current projects.   Possibly  by the first of May, or sometime in
the summer.   Maybe Corin can help, I'm gonna send him a note.

Thanks again!

Carlos M Ott, Can

******************* You got to keep on rubbin that same old thang.
*****************
--Dutch Mason, blues singer

From deke@wps.com Wed Mar 29 17:38:59 1995
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> How about the IWW's illegal practice of using dues money to finance the
> Industrial Worker
Point of information--what law does this violate?
I'm a certified legal ignoramous.
Mike B)
X334260



From deke@fletcher.iww.org Wed Mar 29 19:33:51 1995
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From: "X341697 (Deke Nihilson)" <deke@fletcher.iww.org>
To: ee@lever.com
cc: deke@iww.org, deke@wps.com
Subject: industrial-strength Revolutionary Greetings...
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Hi Ed, how's things?

I've been pretty hectic lately, but doing well. Maybe you've noticed 
fletcher's indeed up and running, and not without further trial since 
last we spoke! But the OS is in, and some major bugs got their A200 
treatment  *:{, like the sendmail and/or DNS bug that required the use of 
the Fully Qualified Domain Name. In addition to several other wobs, it in 
good part has happened because of the solidarity of my FWs at TLG, and 
though none of them have red cards (yet, yet  *:) they all say 
"iww-dot-org" on a regular basis now, and it's all pretty cool...

Hey-- wanna get together sometime and talk majordomo? I'm gonna be outta 
town from the 2nd til the 10th, but maybe if we even just talk on the 
phone we can figure out how to create the access you need to do whatcha 
want here.  I know for one that's majordomo, and I think it'll be a 
Generally Good Thing all the way around! My policy (such as it is, and so 
far) is quite glasnost, with online wobs at least, though I of course do 
gotta worry about security shit (what with fedspooks everywhere, and 
SATAN hits the 'net next week and and). Maybe you could help with that, 
to any degree? I could sure use it...

I'm sure yer new yob's workin' ya too... geez, San Jose? Actually, I'll 
be down there Fri. to install some modems. Hey! Hmm... what's your 
schedule like? Our POP there, I hear, is like 3 blocks from the CalTrain 
station...

ANYway, or, give me a call, and/or let's hook up at least soon after the 
10th when I get back. Do drop me a line, here or at wps, and let me know 
where you're at...

Stay FABulous! As I remain,

Yours for the Revolutions,
--Deke 

From deke@wps.com Wed Mar 29 20:24:14 1995
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From: "X341697 (Deke Nihilson)" <deke@fletcher.iww.org>
To: bay_wob-list@wps.com
Subject: IWW Benefit @ Long Haul in April
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I.W.W. BENEFIT @ THE INFO CAFE

3124 Shattuck Ave. in Berkeley

Sunday April 9th, 1995, 7 p.m.

The Industrial Workers of the World would like you to invite you and 
yours to come celebrate the opening of a new East bay office. Join us for 
a gourmet vegan dining experience at the Long Haul where the new office 
is opening. At the same time find out more about the Union and what it's 
up to these days. Whether you're a member or not (or used to be), please 
come show your support and enjoy a fine meal.

All for a 3 dollar donation

(510) 540-0751

*****end of text*****

From wilcox@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu Wed Mar 29 20:47:31 1995
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From: Pete M Wilcox <wilcox@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu>
To: Deke Motif Nihilson <deke@wps.com>
Subject: O'ahu Visit
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Aloha Deke!

Hawaiian Creole English (aka "Pidgin") version:

Eh braddah, you stay my place when you come stay, ok?  What kine grinds 
you like?  You one veggie, or you be da kine omnivore?  I try clean 
wikiwiki and send off all da cockaroaches in make style, but beware cuz, 
dis da tropics, yeah?  I stay on da Bay Kane'ohe (oh, like poetry kine!), 
so you at least getta good view off my lanai.  Oh, wen fugat, you like 
what, beer or wine?

Oh, is Charlie going to kill me if she sees this!  
Standard English (haole) version:

I hope all is well with you.  When you arrive, I shall be accomodating 
you at my humble abode.  I'm curious to know what sorts of items to place 
on the menu, or at least in the fridge.  Are you a vegtarian (as are Tai 
and Josie, per their email), or are you an omnivore?  I am working 
dilligently to clean up the aforementioned abode, but I should warn you 
that this is the tropics and I hope you're not too offended by the 
occasional six-legged pest.  I live on Kane'ohe Bay, on the windward side 
of O'ahu, and have a nice view of the Bay off the balcony. Oh, pardon me 
for forgetting, do you prefer beer or wine (it's time to make a liquor run)?

To change the subject a bit, we've been somewhat unsuccessful in hooking 
up with Queer groups here, largely because apparently none of us are (or 
at least we're not connected if we are, no rrrrrrreally!).  FW Lori 
Hidano, who is officially taking out a card next month, is dying to take 
you dancing at the local hot spots where you might connect, however.  She 
ran into a guy at a party last week who was hooked into a "Gay Asian" 
group of some kind.  He said that there's a chapter here, he thought, but 
didn't know where to find them.  As for dancing, I'm more than game to 
come along, but I can't dance for shit and techno gives me a headache 
(whatever happened to rock and roll that took it nice and easy on you, 
like the Ramones and the Dead Kennedys?).  Charlie and Lynette have been 
working on contacting the UH Hawaiian Gay/Lesbian club, we'll see.  Maybe 
more will (or has?) turned up, but if you have any suggestions/contacts...

A hui hou,

Pete

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Hi Deke!

I just tested whether I could indeed send mail from fido to vad@iww.org 
(without "fletcher"), and indeed it worked. Yea!

I'm not quite so unknowledgable about unix that I didn't look for 
.pinerc, or dot.pinerc for that matter. In fact, I looked for the latter 
figuring I might need to rename it just like you said, but I can't find 
either of them! Help!

It's a late night for me on a work day, but I can't sleep. I'm consumed 
with thoughts on how best to bail on my job. I'm losing it there; I'm 
becoming so depressed that I can't even drag myself in for a full 
schedule anymore. It's been so slow that the fact that I only worked 
(only!) 33 hours this week is a bonus for my boss, so I'm not likely to 
get fired for my scheduling liberties, unfortunately. I simply refuse to 
hang around waiting for it to be time to leave with nothing to do, even 
if I get paid for it, and they are more than welcome to fire me for that!

Well, ANYway, I'll keep in touch.

Yours for the revolution,
Vad.

From deke@wps.com Thu Mar 30 11:48:21 1995
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Subject: Re: Bekken's threats
To: 73174.77@Compuserve.com (Fred Chase)
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Fellow Workers,

After having finally received my GOB #1 and having plowed through
various messages on this list, I'm a little concerned.   
What's with all the charges!  If people don't like what a person
is doing in office, s/he should organize a recall.  IMHO, we
can't afford to lose any members, unless they are police agents or
employers.B)  Let's drop all these bloody charges and get on with
the organizing and educating towards emancipation.  As far as I can
tell, the FW's who have been elected to various offices are trying their
level best to get the job done.  If somebody else can do it better, let
them take a shot at running for the office, after any successful recall.
(Just don't expect it to be me.  I've had my turn at the GEB.  Once is
enough for any Wob, in my opinion.  Sure, if you can stand to do it more
than once and you get the votes, fine.)  
Meanwhile, let's turn the auto-destruct button off.

Mike B)


From josie@iww.org Thu Mar 30 12:47:46 1995
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From: X341890 <josie@iww.org>
To: "X341697 (Deke Nihilson)" <deke@fletcher.iww.org>
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hey Deke,
	We're here at your apartment.
	Hope to see you soon
	josie,x341890


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To the GST:
	Here are the long overdue meeting minutes for the January 1995
branch meeting which were finally approved at our last branch meeting
March 24, 1995. As they contain the votes on re-delegation for all branch
delegates we hope we shall receive new delegates credentials for 1995 as
soon as possible. 

				Thank you,
				Maile Pickett x342615
				Branch Secretary
Meeting Minutes January 11, 1995

Agenda 

Check - In
Announcements
Re-delegation
New Delegates
Strategy/ Organizing /Future Direction
Disruption
Secretary's Report; Philly/ 'allegations/insinuations'
Mail Report
Reading of Last Meeting Minutes
Computer Services Committee
Office Search
Love and Rage


1. Check - In;  11 members in attendance, FW Crys Vad Hyphus 
facilitating.

2. Announcements:

	Saturday January 14, Housing Now will be holding its 
annual conference and has invited representatives to attend from 
the IWW Santa Cruz.  8:00pm at Louden Nelson Center.

	Saturday January 14, First Anarchist Coffeehouse in 
several years will be held at 7:00pm 1994 Ocean St. Ext. 
Coffeehouse will be a benefit for Rodney Coronado a Native 
American Animal Rights activist recently captured by the FBI. 
There will be food, and  an open mike for musicians poets speakers
etc.

	FW Vad announces IWW office hours  in his room at 120 
Campbell St. Monday and Wednesday evenings 10pm - 2am.

3. Re-delegation
	FW Vad informs us of the need to vote to re-delegate our 
1994 delegates for the new year. We decide to take a vote for each
current delegate.
All those in favor of 1995 re-delegation of the following:	
					Yes
Erica Baker				 11
Eric Gross				 11
Crys Vad Hyphus				 11
Keith Kjoller				 11
Taiette Miller				 11
Maile Pickett				 11
Matt Shyka				 11
Clayton White				 11
	All current delegates are unanimously re-delegated for 1995 by the
branch. 

4. New Delegates
	There are three new members desiring delegate status. FW 
Peter J. announces his desire to become a delegate. Peter J.  
reads an inspiring statement of intent from new prospective 
delegate Lettie Conrad.  Corin Drummond addresses the meeting by 
conference-phone asking that the branch grant him delegate status 
as well. 
	All in favor of Peter J. Lettie and Corin becoming new 
delegates for 1995:
					Yes
Peter J. 				11
Lettie Conrad				11
Corin Drummond				11

Amidst cheers of approval Peter J., Lettie and Corin are 
unanimously granted delegate status for 1995 by the branch.

5. Stratedgy/Organizing/Future Direction

FW Maile Pickett  initiates discussion on this topic by asking the
branch to consider where we are at, where we are going and what we
want to be doing together as an organization;  where should our 
focus points be? 

A brainstorm discussion format is initiated.
The following is paraphrased from that discussion.

Michael - We need to access our resources, work on process, assist
with local organizing efforts, think about "recruitment, retention
& development..." what happened to the meeting presentation skills
sharing sessions we'd planned? Why do things break down..., 
assessing our mistakes. Restart the delegates meetings...Start a 
Wobbly school? Work on internal organization of the branch produce
job descriptions of the different organizational positions and 
roles as a way of making service/leadership positions more 
accessible to everyone.
Appropriating the definitions of "professionalism". Set up 
personal commitments/expectations? Do we need a more singular 
focus?

Torn- Enthusiasm for working on Info-shop with IWW sponsorship 
perhaps. What services could the IWW provide?  Posting job 
openings? Squatting some of the buildings abandoned by the city as
an office or service center?

Peter J. - We need regular delegate meetings, process 
work,...Wobbly school idea sounds good. We need to really be aware
of all members; what are the interests and concerns of the breadth
of IWW Santa Cruz membership? We need to be in contact with folks 
and follow up on things.

Maile - Interested in building infrastructure both 
organizationally and in terms of resources. What about using an 
affinity group structure to further different focus groups and to 
welcome new members into a close knit  support/ organizing group? 
Also what about increasing our access to resources that can 
support growing organizing efforts? We have a printing press on 
loan to us but we need space to run it. Perhaps we should start a 
branch newsletter to help bring together  the variety of 
activities that are happening in the branch? 

Michael - Do we need a monthly budget perhaps? A 4 month plan? How
can we further sustainable organizing?

Xavier - Committed to providing resources and know how. Is skilled
at creating outdoor water tight storage structures; perhaps a 
possibility for the office? Has a truck for transportation and 
hauling.

Peter J. Having the office in or at a house would only really work
if all the members of that household were not just agreeable but 
really committed to having an IWW office there.

Kristen - We need to consider the larger political environment; 
squatting is not just a financial but a political decision.  
Support for Affinity Group structure idea.

Vad- We need more socially oriented informal space to come 
together.

Maile- What about Cafe nights? At Herland perhaps; like an 
informational night for telling some Wob history/future and 
perhaps signing up new members. But perhaps we'd want to be 
clearer on some sort of branch structure / purpose before trying 
to bring in bunches of new members.

Peter J. - Pacific Security and Investigation seems ripe for 
organizing...what about organizing mall security what do we think 
about this? Kim Argula has had dealings with the Public relations 
person at the Metro...what about the ongoing Metro union 
politics...? How can we further solidarity and connections with 
the Bus drivers...how can we further solidarity and support for 
local unions in general...?

Torn -  Pacific Security and Investigation is hiring now.

Michael - Perhaps a go-around would be good now. What are people 
personally committed to working on?

Go-Around format is accepted by the group and initiated by Peter 
J.

Peter J. - Delegate meetings; committed to making delegate 
meetings a regular part of branch process. Delegates need to focus
on all actual members and spend some time finding out what members
are interested in, what members need from this union.

Lee -  Would like to get more involved in the office and  printing
press access. There is a large common room at the Earth First 
office on Broadway that is available for meetings.

Maile - Committed to finding out about office space; will check 
into the situation at Gaia House...

Heather - will call Matt Shyka about Gaia House...will put her 
computer in the office if/when we finally get one...

Michael -  "Organizers build organizations" lets make skills, 
ideas, strategies, workshops skills sharing more available to 
delegates and members.

Kristen - Will help organize the two libraries as needed...

Vad - Will continue to work on acquiring office space and 
maintaining internet accessibility, willing to teach computer 
skills, want to work on getting more social stuff going. Keith 
Kjoller doing two new radio shows; one on political prisoners, one
on labor issues, we should keep informed of these 
opportunities,...Willing to convert on-line stuff for a branch 
newsletter.
Computer cooperative is in the works 2nd meeting is Monday 8pm at 
Campbell St. Jan. 16.

Torn- Job searching. Interested in making the Computer Cooperative
work and possibly turn into something that could co-exist and or 
support an info-shop in Santa Cruz.

Phil- Used to operate presses and burn plates, can perhaps help 
with this if the press becomes more accessible.

Xavier - Can be considered a resource person; has truck for 
hauling things, has technical knowledge about computers, 
construction, engineering, hardware etc....

Agenda item "Disruption" is tabled by the branch.

Meeting Minutes for Dec. 10 1994 are unanimously approved.

Agenda items are re-prioritized; Computer Services Committee, Mail
Report and then Secretary's report, with 'Office Research' already
covered and Love and Rage agenda item tabled.

Computer Services Committee
Vad proposes the creation of a Computer Services committee 
empowered to spend money generated from a Computer Services 
Assessment stamp. Funds would be spent to purchase further copies 
of Unix for Dummies,  computer paper, replacement parts etc. as 
needed for the use and maintenance of branch technology.
Torn seconds the proposal. Questions/concerns from Lee, Maile, 
Peter J. Xavier requests clarification on what the separation is 
between the IWW computer services committee and the Computer 
Cooperative being formed by Vad and Torn. Vad clarifies that the 
cooperative is a business that is a separate entity from the 
Computer Services Committee and that the purpose in creating the 
latter would be to provide a branch forum for decision making and 
access regarding branch equipment . One motivation for creating 
this committee is a concern that present discussion/decision 
making about branch equipment may be skewed towards the goals of 
the coop and that there should be an organization or committee not
dominated by Coop members existent specifically to meet the 
concerns of the branch regarding the use and maintenance of branch
technology. The Computer Committee would not exclude Coop members 
who would likely be included due to interest.

Branch unanimously supports the proposal. 

Maile gives the secretary's report including an overview for the 
branch about the situation developing with the on-line 
insinuations and apparent accusations being leveled against the 
Philadelphia G.M.B. regarding the use of funds granted by the GEB 
several years back. Maile reads a draft of a letter to the GOB and
the branch discusses different possible responses to the 
situation. Maile announces individual action she has taken 
regarding the situation specifically; mailing out a of a packet of
materials (a copy of Tai's GEB file) pertaining to the 
Philadelphia G.M.B to most of the information obtained from 
on-line letters being sent between the different  GEB members and 
Philadelphia. Maile's delegate report detailing her actions is 
available to anyone interested.  Michael and Maile agree to meet 
and work on the GOB letter  in time for the next deadline.

Further discussion;

Lee - People should always talk to eachother directly when 
possible. Face to face communication is irreplaceable.

Kristen - e-mail tends to encourage and provoke quick hot tempered
responses. PGP should really be utilized for sensitive internal 
conversation.

" First they came for Philadelphia...."
" They might take away our little certificate..."
	-  SCGMB members in response to the fear that SC might get
attacked for 	  	   getting involved in  support of the 
Philadelphia G.M.B...











From deke@wps.com Thu Mar 30 16:06:37 1995
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From: Bob Helms <bhelms@iww.org>
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I'm going to try to address this latest matter of Mr. Bekken threatening 
charges against Mr. Chase if he obeys the will of the GEB and writes a 
$1,000 check to Len Flank defense, but without making any new charges or 
threats.  I'm starting to wonder about where this is all leading, though.
	First I'd like to know exactly what Bekken said, and to whom he 
said it.  If it happened over the email, I hope someone will put it out 
to the list.  
	Next, I'd like to invite any IWW member to deny the following 
statement, if he or she is able to do so:

THE EXPENSES OF THE LEN FLANK DEFENSE FUND ARE THE OUTSTANDING DEBTS OF 
THE INDUSTRIAL WORKERS OF THE WORLD.  THE I.W.W. OWES, AND SHOULD PAY, 
THE ENTIRE AMOUNT OF THESE EXPENSES, WHETHER INCURRED IN THE PAST OR IN 
THE PRESENT OR IN THE FUTURE.

	If Mr. Bekken is threatening to bring Fred Chase up on charges, I 
hope that this will give everyone a push to read, and endore, FW Meyers' 
referendum proposal regarding internal charges, which will probably be in 
the next GOB.  
	A few months back, I endorsed the charges brought against Bekken 
et al by FW Ervin.  I have noticed since then that the discussion has 
moved away from the charges themselves toward the background reasons that 
precipitated the charges.  I'm glad for this because issues are more 
interesting than constitutional language.  Let's remember that although 
five months have passed, the GST's office has yet to write the $1,000 
check to Lorenzo Ervin, and shows no inclination to do so.  To me this 
means two things: 1) There are 1,000 misappropriated dollars in ypsilanti 
that belong in Atlanta, and 2) The power of the GEB to tell the GST any 
kind of instructions, and see those instructions carried out, is in 
doubt, especially since it's happening again in regards to Lenny Flank.
	A few days ago brother Flank called Mr. Bekken the most 
disruptive inflence now happening in the union (I'm paraphrasing).  
Lately I wonder whether Jon is really just a loon, but I'll wait till I 
get a reply about how he threatened charges aginst Chase before I swear 
to it.  I would be a loon if I didn't think he was disruptive.
	I'm trying to take all sides of the discussion seriously, but I 
wonder how this is possible when the explicit instructions of the GEB 
seem to have little influence on the check-writing of the union's 
treasurer.  
	
	I hope that the GST will answer these questions:  Did Mr. Bekken 
threaten you with charges?  Why are you still holding the B/POC money?  
Are you looking for a way to not pay the Len Flank defense bills?  Which 
is more urgent --the ned for the IWW to pay for the defense of Len Flank, 
or the financing of the Industrial Worker?  Let's try to get right to the 
point, and not even worry about what is inferred by these questions.  
Let's assume that we hate each other.  I mean, who cares, anyway?  The 
only one who's got something to lose here is Len Flank, and money needs 
to go from your control into his control if he's to properly defend 
himself.  I'm not attacking anyone here, but defending my comrade in the 
Lehigh Valley.  If the IWW is really walking away from him, that's a 
profoundly fucked up thing.  I want for fred Chase to prove that it's not 
true.  Think of your name in the index of a book called "The IWW in 1995: 
a true story"  what is the reader going to read about your actions in 
this book, when they read it after we're all long dead?  That's what 
really matters, Fred.  The final record of our lives.  There's the old 
line From Greek Tragedy, "We, the living, are only phantoms, and fleeting 
shadows..."   I had to think about this when FW Miller criticized me 
recently, and now I hope you'll think about it, too.

					In Solidarity,
					Bob Helms X341465
					Philadelphia, PA

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Bob,
	Bekken told me that if I issued the Board grant to the LF Defense/Offense
Fund ***without getting either a bill or receipts***, 
he would bring me up on charges.  This was said after I had already 
told him that I had no intention of doing so.  So, while  he was 
serious, it didn't constitute a threat.  I gather he sent a letter to 
FW Flank stating much the same thing.  Lenny posted it as being that 
I would be brought up on charges if I issued the funds, period.  
That was not the case.  It's only receipts/bills/accountability which 
are at issue.
	FW D'Amore may have found a way out of the situation.  He will ask his
mother, the Branch Secretary, to provide receipts for last 
year's grant, if she has them.  The Union has received no receipts in 
the past.  If I receive these receipts and assurances that I will also receive
receipts for the current grant, I will issue it to the LF Defense/Offense Fund
rather than waiting for a bill from the lawyer.  
I only opted for sending the money directly to the lawyer upon presentation of a
bill was a way for the money to be dispensed as is Lenny's right and for
accountability to be met, as is the Union's 
right.
	I deny your statement regarding the Union's financial 
obligation to the LF Defense/Offense Fund.  The union has spent 
around $13,000 on the Bingo Worker organizing drive and the LF 
Defense Fund to date.  One Bingo worker has paid dues since June of 
'94.  An open ended commitment such as you suggest could cost us more than we
have.  There are ways to protect FW Flank from bankruptcy 
without bankrupting the Union.  23 years ago I was hit with a bond forfeiture
for going into sanctuary rather than showing up for trial 
for destroying some draft files.  My income was low.  My lawyer worked out a
deal for me to pay $10 every other month.  I'll be done in the 
year 2000.  If FW Flank's lawyer could make a similar deal, I'd even support the
Union making the payments.
	A check did not get written to the B/PoC committee because 
there were/are indications that FW Ervin has already received more 
than $1,000 in organizing funds.  I turned the issue back to the 
Board and said I would only be willing to issue a check if they told 
me to in light of that information which was not available when my original
motion to grant the money passed in '94.  The proposal to 
send the money has since  failed.  So I am not defying the Board.  
When we receive the financial documentation from you and FW Negabahn showing
these indications are incorrect, I will support paying the 
B/PoC Committee the $1,000 in question, once they show that there is a delegate
authorized to sign people into the union connected to the committee.  
	FW Ervin wrote me he was returning his credentials.  I wrote 
back urging him to keep them because I said once the issue of the 
grant to you and FW Negahban was cleared up, there would be a problem sending
money to the B/PoC Committee if there was no one credentialed 
on it.  He returned his credentials anyway.  FW D'Amore has expressed a similar
reservation on this issue, and has suggested that the money should be set aside
for, say, 6 months to be paid if someone on the 
B/PoC takes out credentials.  That would be fine with me, once the questions
about the grant to you and FW Negahban has been cleared up.
	I try to think on every issue about how my actions will affect the Union.
We clearly aren't going to agree on all of my choices.  But my objective is to
perform the will of the membership.  Until that is changed by referendum, I have
to take my guidance first from the constitution, second from the board.  I don't
believe I am taking any positions which are not supported by the constitution,
and so far by the majority of the board as well.  If I should do so in the
future, recall would be in order.
	And I don't hate you, fellow worker, but I have some very strong
differences with positions you have taken recently and with the tone of some of
your messages on the internet.

			Solidarity,

			  Fred Chase
  


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FW Chase writes in his most recent letter:

> 	A check did not get written to the B/PoC committee because 
> there were/are indications that FW Ervin has already received more 
> than $1,000 in organizing funds.  I turned the issue back to the 
> Board and said I would only be willing to issue a check if they told 
> me to in light of that information which was not available when my original
> motion to grant the money passed in '94.  The proposal to 
> send the money has since  failed.  So I am not defying the Board.  
> When we receive the financial documentation from you and FW Negabahn showing
> these indications are incorrect, I will support paying the 
> B/PoC Committee the $1,000 in question, once they show that there is a delegate
> authorized to sign people into the union connected to the committee.  
> 	FW Ervin wrote me he was returning his credentials.  I wrote 
> back urging him to keep them because I said once the issue of the 
> grant to you and FW Negahban was cleared up, there would be a problem sending
> money to the B/PoC Committee if there was no one credentialed 
> on it.  He returned his credentials anyway.  FW D'Amore has expressed a similar
> reservation on this issue, and has suggested that the money should be set aside
> for, say, 6 months to be paid if someone on the 
> B/PoC takes out credentials.  That would be fine with me, once the questions
> about the grant to you and FW Negahban has been cleared up.
> 
Dear Fred,
	I would refer you to our most recent mailing earlier this month 
which clarifys any questions regarding Nelson money being sent to the 
BPOC by the Philadelphia GMB.  No Nelson money was ever sent to FW Ervin, 
and we currently do not have any plans to do so.  Since by your own 
report in the January GOB, FW Ervin was never under investigation, that 
should more than clear up any questions you might have had.  Frankly, if 
you had simply asked the Philadelphia GMB about this issue rather than 
recklesly acting on hersay, this issue with FW Ervin and the BPOC would 
never have come up.
	FW Ervin returned his delegate credentials because he was
concerned that he might suffer a constitutional lynching for some
prodedural shortcoming in his delegate reporting.  I am afraid that it
will be hard to undo all the damage that has been done in the last few
months, in prestige, trust, and lost contacts, but the least the union
could do is admit that it was wrong and attempt to make amends.  Your
assurance that the funds would be made available on reinstatement of FW
Ervin or another member of the drive as delegate(s) would be a first step
in this process.
	For One Big Diverse Union,
	josie, x341890 

PS I would point out that the motion to send the BPOC the funds not so
much failed as simply deadlocked like everything else in this years GEB. 
It received a majority of all votes cast, but since abstaining is
effectively a no vote under the current GEB rules, it did not become the
official position of the 1995 board.  


From deke@fletcher.iww.org Fri Mar 31 00:07:18 1995
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From: "X341697 (Deke Nihilson)" <deke@fletcher.iww.org>
To: Pete M Wilcox <wilcox@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu>
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On Wed, 29 Mar 1995, Pete M Wilcox wrote:

> Aloha Deke!
> 
> Hawaiian Creole English (aka "Pidgin") version:
> 
> Eh braddah, you stay my place when you come stay, ok?  What kine grinds 

Yo, man, 'sup? How's things? Kickin' it witcha sounds chill, and I dig it...

> you like?  You one veggie, or you be da kine omnivore?  I try clean 

I'm a kindavore. Fish and chicken, sea bugs, allright! Nothing more 
sentient than that tho...

> wikiwiki and send off all da cockaroaches in make style, but beware cuz, 
> dis da tropics, yeah?  I stay on da Bay Kane'ohe (oh, like poetry kine!), 

Bugs ain't about clean, they're just here like the rest of us... I live 
in SF's Mission District, and don't even hablo espan~ol. I'm *lame*...
But we got a cockroach that's bigger than *god* on the ceiling where I 
work, been up there two days and movin' *slow*, but movin'... we've all 
been waiting for it to pounce, just like jehovah... where does a 500 lb. 
cockroach hang around? Etc...

> so you at least getta good view off my lanai.  Oh, wen fugat, you like 
> what, beer or wine?

Oboy, yummy beer!!!  *:)  Wine'll do in a pinch, but I'm, like, *totally* 
a sudsboy...

> 
> Oh, is Charlie going to kill me if she sees this!  
> Standard English (haole) version:

Heeheehee! I won't snitch...

> ... 
> 
> To change the subject a bit, we've been somewhat unsuccessful in hooking 
> up with Queer groups here, largely because apparently none of us are (or 
> at least we're not connected if we are, no rrrrrrreally!).  FW Lori 
> Hidano, who is officially taking out a card next month, is dying to take 
> you dancing at the local hot spots where you might connect, however.  She 

Mmmmm... organizing *can* break the ice and get dates!! proven in field 
tests...  *:)__   No, but really, that's cool. Whatever. I've been up to 
my, well, you-know in boys when least expected, and been for long periods 
without 'em, and barely noticed. I just skate and relate, ya know?

> come along, but I can't dance for shit and techno gives me a headache 
> (whatever happened to rock and roll that took it nice and easy on you, 
> like the Ramones and the Dead Kennedys?).  Charlie and Lynette have been 

Ah, an old punk rock, eh? Me too, no, rrreally! Always have been, as 
minority as rockers are in the fag world. It's not so much a headche that 
bothers me about techno, as the fact that it gets in the way of the 
kindsa conversation that helps me screen out Republicans, self-haters and 
pretensious snots when I'm trying to pick up on guys! I like raves a little
more than clubs, if only because they try to vary environments a little 
more. But a mosh pit's a fine place to cop cheap feels without lettin' on 
that's whassup!  *:)  And punk lyrics are better, too... not so 
happy-happy-happy-all-of-the-time.

> working on contacting the UH Hawaiian Gay/Lesbian club, we'll see.  Maybe 
> more will (or has?) turned up, but if you have any suggestions/contacts...

I know nothing of th'HI scene, in any sense, other than a buncha cool 
wobs can't wait to show me everything they can think of, and I look quite 
forward to it! Some work, some play, some quality time with comrades and 
even a beer supply... shux! What can I say? Well, for one, thanx in 
advance for your already-FABulous hospitality; I look forward to 
returning it, somehow, someday. In addition to being so allured, I really 
need the time out of The City (as we call SF here), and look forward to 
things (especially) that there's no way to forsee, as I'd never imagined. 
I've never really been off of this death-trap of a continent, and am 
quite eager to see a real, different country (never even having been to 
Mexico much), away from the plastecine lies of stateside television (not 
that I've wathced it in years) and with comrades true...

> A hui hou,
> 
> Pete

See ya soon! Oh-- how to find you in the airport!? Guess I'll wear a 
wobbly t-shirt, if that's not too subtle. Lessee, I'm 5'5", 130 lbs., 
Italian (light but naturally brown), may or may not have what's left of a 
mohowk (you got any clippers?) and probably shod in combat boots...

Hasta!
--Deke 

From deke@wps.com Fri Mar 31 02:32:20 1995
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Dear Josie,
	The union has your statement about what happened to the money, which is
different from the original statement.  We have not yet seen the documentation
which will confirm its correctness.
	The first '95 vote on sending the money to the BPoC Committee expired.
It was reinstated and failed by a majority vote of the board.

				Fred Chase 


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	The hearsay upon which I so recklessly acted was the report which you
provided to the Union.  My reckless action was to return the matter to the Board
for reconsideration.
	As for lynching delegates who commit procedural errors...there isn't
enough rope for all of them, for errant GST's and Board members as well.  So I
just point out the errors and hope for correction.  Not accounting for the
expenditure of thousands of dollars of union funds goes beyond procedural error
to my mind.


				Fred Chase
 


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->         FW D'Amore may have found a way out of the situation.  He wil
-> mother, the Branch Secretary, to provide receipts for last
-> year's grant, if she has them.  The Union has received no receipts in
-> the past.  If I receive these receipts and assurances that I will als
.
.
The statement that no reciepts have been given to GHQ is simply not
true.  I sent a copy of a receipt from my lawyer the day after I sent
him the original money to take the case.   
In fact, I am holding a photocopy of the recipt in my hands now, dated
May 27, 1994, in the amount of $1500 (the ONLY GEB money that has gone
into the bingo lawsuit defense so far).  This receipt was sent to
then-GST Rob Rush.  The accusation that the LV IWW has not provided
receipts to GHQ for the money it has sent for the defense fund is
absolute balderdash, and if necessary I will mail a copy of the receipt
to the GOB to prove it.
.
I do want to speak to this issue of receipts and exoenditures.  I have
absolutely no problem with providing receipts to GHQ to document how
their money is spent.  I *do* have ENORMOUS problems if this turns into
(as it seems it will) GHQ "oversight"--i.e., the GHQ, and not the
Branch, will get to make the decisions about how much money is spent
and on what.  May I respectfully suggest that the LV Branch, as an
autonomous unit, has demonstrated conclusively that we know what we are
doing, that we are quite capable of managing our own affairs, and that
the only way we will accept GEB orders as to how to spend the money
would be if the GHQ voted to put the Branch into receivership.  We
appreciate all help we can get towards defending this lawsuit, but we
are NOT willing to abrogate our autonomy and our decision-making role
as the price for this help.  If taking GEB money means bowing to GEB
control over this campaign, then keep your fucking money.
.
.
Lenny Flank 
X341341
.
.
.

From deke@wps.com Fri Mar 31 06:14:50 1995
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 >
 > Dear Josie,
 > 	The union has your statement about what happened to the money, which is
 > different from the original statement.  We have not yet seen the documentation
 > which will confirm its correctness.
 > 	The first '95 vote on sending the money to the BPoC Committee expired.
 > It was reinstated and failed by a majority vote of the board.
 >
 > 				Fred Chase 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear FW Chase,
	Wrong.  The reports are entirely consistent.  The Philadelphia
IWW cannot be held responsible for the wild imaginations of the GHQ. 
That FW Rush seemed unable to understand either english or math (he
decided that we had spent $6000 out of a $4500 grant, without even
accounting for such things as the kinko's drive [wildly successful by
the way, try going into a kinko's with plenty of wobbly sinage on
yourself, and see if they recogize the IWW]) is not our problem.  That
you considered his accounting credible despite its obvious
ridicoulousness is also not our problem.  Had either of you bothered to
ask if your misunderstanding was correct, or taken advantage of our
request for FW Nihilson to mediate(in early December) rather than 
looking for an excuse to lynch the BPOC, which was entirely unconcerned 
in any dispute regarding accounting between GHQ and Philly, we would 
not have had to get all this mired in this years GEB/GHQ inaction.
	If you were serious about your offer to make the money 
available to the BPOC upon their having a delegate, you should act on 
that.  If it was all a nice thing to say, but you have no intention to 
follow through, just admit it.
	In sceptical solidarity,
	josie, x341890


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FW Chase suggests that my lawyer cut a deal with the bigno bosses to
just pay the money and shut up.  And he even suggests that the "union"
pay whatever monthly payments are arranged.


First, Fred, what happens if I agree to pay back $10,000 over the next,
say, twenty years (assuming the bosses will agree to this, which tehy
definitely will NOT, since it would lose much of the harrasment value of
their lawsuit).  What do I do if, in two years, the Union goes broke and
decides it won't pay any more?  Who gets stuck with the rest of the bill
then, Fred?  Me?  You?  Bekken?

Second, the legal responsibility of ANY union is to defend the interests
of its workers.  Giving in to the bosses in this instance is NOT
defending the interests of the workers.  It will provide the bosses with
more moeny to finance their anti-unioin campaign.

Third, I simply will not pay a single solitary nickel to any fucking
union-busting boss, especially for something I didn't do.  Maybe you are
willing to tuck your tail between your legs and run whenever the bosses
threaten "lawsuit", but I'm not.  I intend to fight.  If the "union" is
willing to support me in this fight, great.  If not, then stop calling
yourself a "union".  You are nothing of the sort.



Lenny Flank
X341341

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->         I deny your statement regarding the Union's financial
-> obligation to the LF Defense/Offense Fund.  The union has spent
.
Gee, Fred, thanks for the show of solidarity there.  I really
appreciate all you've done to help me defend myself against the boss's
.
WHAT!!??!!!??!!!??!!!!!
.
With all due respect, what the hell are you talking about, Fred?  Ten
grand for the bigno campaign?  This is pure unadulterated absolutely
pure BULLSHIT.  We fucking WISH that we had ten grand for the bingo
strike.  Fred, the ONLY money that GHQ has granted to the bingo strike
was, if I remember right, $1,000 (or it might have been $500) for
strike support for the workers (remember them, Fred, the ones we're
supposed to be helping here?)--who had been without jobs for several
months and needed to pay such trivial things as heat and food.  Do you
begrudge us that moneyt, Fred?  Or should we have simply let the
workers starve while we'all were playing "let's pretend we're labior
organizers"?
.
The total financial commitment of the GHQ to me defense fund has been
$1500 that I paid to my lawyer to retain him for the case.
.
The rest of the $10,000 or so that we have gotten here was through a
referendum (which GHQ opposed) granting us seed money for two years,
which we used to purchase a photocopier so we could print leaflets and
publish the Branch Bulletin.  This money was granted about a year and a
half BEFORE anybody even heard of Boulevard Bingo.  Not a dime of this
went to the bingo campaign.  None.  Nada.  It was all used as startup
funds for the Branch.  Your implication that GHQ has "wasted" ten grand
on the bingo workers (please explain to me exactly how attempting to
organize workers who have been illegally fired is "wasting money",
Fred) is a bare bald-faced lie.  Please retract this statement.
.
As for your statement that only one bingo worker is current on her
dues, you are absolutely correct.  And I don't blame them.  Here they
are, stuck in the middle of a three year fight to win their jobs back,,
with their primary organizer in the defense dock, and their "union" is
making every effort to resist helping them.  I don't blame them a bit
for being dusgusted with the whole show and with being reluctant to
support any of it with their limited funds (remember, Fred, these folks
haven't had a job in over THREE FUCKING YEARS, because they are trying
ot ORGANIZE.  Does that mean anything at all to you, Fred?)  I highly
encvourage them to not pay GHQ a single fucking dime until GHQ
demonstrates (through actions instead of cheap words) that it intends
to back these workers in their fight, no matter what it takes.  These
people were willing to risk (and lose) their jobs to organize, to put
up with three years of threats, harrassment and intimidation, to
struggle along with virtually no income for three years, and now YOU
are questioning THEIR commitment to this campaign?  You, Fred, are an
unmitigated asshole.
.
.
Lenny Flank
X341341
.
attacks.  It's good to know that the IWW's organizers can count on our
Fellow Workers at GHQ when the chips are down.
.
-> around $13,000 on the Bingo Worker organizing drive and the LF
-> Defense Fund to date.  One Bingo worker has paid dues since June of
-> '94.  An open ended commitment such as you suggest could cost us more
-> have.  There are ways to protect FW Flank from bankruptcy
-> without bankrupting the Union.  23 years ago I was hit with a bond fo
-> for going into sanctuary rather than showing up for trial
-> for destroying some draft files.  My income was low.  My lawyer worke
-> deal for me to pay $10 every other month.  I'll be done in the
-> year 2000.  If FW Flank's lawyer could make a similar deal, I'd even

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Membership

As at 31 March 1995 we have 67 members in the British Isles, the majority of
whom are in continuous good standing.

Union membership

Dept No 1

IU 120  - 1

Dept No 2

IU 210 - 1

Dept No 3

IU 310 - 1

IU 330 - 2

Dept No 4

IU 450 - 2

Dept No 5

IU 510 - 1
IU 520 - 2
IU 530 - 8 (of whom 7 are in the Couriers Union)
IU 560 - 4
IU 570 - 8

Dept No 6

IU 610 - 4
IU 620 - 23
IU 640 - 1
IU 670 - 7
IU 680 - 1

Unknown Industrial Union - 2

Activity - Industrial

Education Workers

Stevenson College members are in the process of applying to the GEB for Job
Branch status, now have seven on site, two delegates, and expect to recruit
many more members over the next few weeks.  They have already intervened with
local management over the monitoring of members sickness and have sought
information on the criteria for union recognition.

Two members of IU 620 attended a rally of 20,000 in London to protest against
cuts in Education. A report is being sent to the Industrial Worker.  The newly
established Research Council Offices IU620 Group have suggested to the IU that
its name be changed to the Education and Research Workers Industrial Union.

A regional newsletter is being planned and recruitment exercises are underway
at a couple of sites.

Couriers Union

The couriers met in London at the end of the month.  Two new members joined at
the small meeting whcih was reduced in size because of the atrocious weather. 
Three more members and they will apply for an IU Branch charter.  Activites are
planned for a press release, local publicity and more targetted recruitment.

Unemployed Workers

IWW memerbs working with the Oxford Claimants and Unemployed Workers are
hosting a conference on 1 April aimed at gathering together all those involved
in autonomous unemployed activity.

Health Workers

Members iemployed in health are drawing together a national leaflet following a
health care workers day of protest on 30 March against a 1 per cent pay offer. 
A report will go to the Industrial Worker.

(Becasue the network I am on is about to crash the rest of the report will
follow after the weekend.)

From deke@wps.com Fri Mar 31 09:09:21 1995
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             <v01510101aba1aa66bb48@[199.6.41.123]> 
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In message <v01510101aba1aa66bb48@[199.6.41.123]>, "Seth Wigderson, Univ. of Ma
ine-Augusta" writes:
>Here's the question: Does anyone know of an example to which I can
>point students where syndicalism was anything more than a perversion
>(mussolini) or an abstraction?  In particular they get confused about

That wasn't syndicalist the was corporatist organization.

>how local syndicats would network with others, and the more they ask,
>the more confused I get.  I know of local attempts at synicats, but are
>there Latin American or European examples (or anywhere else) where
>something akin to a syndicalist network was ever tried long enough
>for us to get a hint?  (Communards?)

>Any thoughts and resources would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Rob Weir
>RWeir@smith.edu

When the Spanish CNT controlled Catalonia during the Spanish Civil War, that
would be a syndicalist organization (or moving in that direction).

In more rural areas like Andalucia there where libertarian-communist
communes formed by geographic area (towns and villages). Some of the bigger
farms were organized in a syndicalist manner. The town communes weren't but
used the same principles of organization.

The miners in Asturia's organized syndicalistically.

In the Ukraine during the Russian revolution, Mahno's Army war organized in
a libertarian fashion and organized farming collectives.

Before Mussolini crushed the workers movement, the USI was an explicitly
syndicalist movement which has hundreds of thousands of workers organized,
but in never took power beyond several general strikes.
--
  Edward Elhauge  |                      | "I want to be a person
 Lever Industries |   ee@lever.com       |  like somebody else once was."
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From <@cmsa.Berkeley.EDU:U441280@uhccmvs.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu> Fri Mar 31 09:25:16 1995
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Deke, If you get this before you leave, please bring back the
cashier's check with you, as I can get a refund (or lose 300),
depending!
We are close to tying down two or three gigs for you next week on
Gay/Lesbian etc. issues. Each is likely to be small, informal,
at this stage. That is in addition to your participation in the
organizing/workshop type of stuff on the advance program.
I will be at the airport to meet your flight on Sunday, either at
the gate or in the baggage claim area.
Durruti

From <@cmsa.Berkeley.EDU:U441280@uhccmvs.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu> Fri Mar 31 10:56:22 1995
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You're talking to someone who's barely compueter literate, so I
don't know. Pete Wilcox and one or two others are much better, though,
so why not bring the software and let's talk about it once you
are here.
Durruti

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FYI FW's
Mike B)

Forwarded message:
From spunk-list-request@lysator.liu.se Fri Mar 31 10:12:05 1995
From: jamal@bronze.lcs.mit.edu (Jamal Hannah)
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Subject: Lorenzo Komboa Ervin
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Hi.. I think that eventualy, we might consider a "writers" section
for Lorenzo Komboa Ervin, an African American Libertarian Socialist/Anarchist
.. his book "Anarchism & the Black Revolution" is freely usable by
anti-authoritarian organizations/individuals.

We already have at least one bit of writing by him in the archive..
"LET'S GET ORGANIZED!"  is the title.    I have his book and I can
scan in some of the chapters.

 - Jamal



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Fred:
	It seems clear to me that the dreaded photocopier is still in the 
possession of the Philadelphia Branch.  This info is drawn from their 
report, no where else.  This issue was never important to me, but it 
seemed to a major part of the reason for you to withold the money.  I 
don't see the reason to withold being there anymore.
	Now the delegate situation, I agree is a problem.  I would not 
support releasing money to any group with no means of signing up new 
members.  But once the POC gets a delegate what's holding up sending the 
money? 

Soli,
 Mike

On 31 Mar 1995, Fred Chase wrote:

> Dear Josie,
> 	The union has your statement about what happened to the money, which is
> different from the original statement.  We have not yet seen the documentation
> which will confirm its correctness.
> 	The first '95 vote on sending the money to the BPoC Committee expired.
> It was reinstated and failed by a majority vote of the board.
> 
> 				Fred Chase 
> 
> 

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Subject: Re: $13 grand?
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Fred:
	I just don't know where you got the figure of $13 grand for the 
Bingo and LF Fund put together.  As I recall we had four motions over the 
years for money and two were for each.  The two for the LF fund totaled 
$1500, and the two for Bingo support totaled somewhere around the same, 
maybe (but I'm not 100% sure on this one yet -- I'll check).
	Anyway you slice it the figures are far away from $13 grand!  I 
don't even think if you add all the grants to the LV IWW (two additional 
motions)  we equal $13 grand.  So this figure is a wee bit off perhaps.

Soli,

Mike 

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howdy folx,

todd here.

i am working on putting a love and rage/amor y rabia home page on the 
system here so that people who are "web surfing" can check it out.  i 
would like it to become a resource for revolutionary anti-authoritarian 
matieral, but for now, i just want to get the main L&R docs and info
online.

the following are some of the topics that i am planning to assemble 
materials on (if you have good stuff on any of these, or if you would 
like to put together a page of your own, please contact me).
L&R pg
ayr gp
mexico sol. wg
prison abolition wb
anti-fa wg
basic L&R docs (by-laws, announcements, etc)
recent postings to the L&R list (this list!)


i have only put together the first page (the one that lets you get to 
those pages) and will start working on the others asap.

any comments, thoughts, help would be appreciated.

the page will be:
http://nmia.com/~bright 
and requires the use of a world wide web browser (netscape, mosaic, 
cello, etc.).

some version of it should be up now!

if you don't have the faintest clue what i'm talking about, either ask 
me, or don't worry about it (the world is obviously not going to change 
for lack of particular kinds of internet access!).

with cierta Liebe aber mit viele Rabia

todd p.
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Sounds great! What about including a FedBullpage too?

Bruce


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> 
> Sounds great! What about including a FedBullpage too?
> 
> Bruce
> 
> 

also, bruce, you can set one up yourself on burn...invoke
the lynx client on burn (or mosaic or whatever from whatever other machine)
and point to http://burn.ucsd.edu

there are instructions there for setting up your own home page.

hope this helps...


andyh

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Some of the fellow worker's questions are over my head.  Can someone 
here give him a good response?  Former fellow worker anxious to rejoin.
Thinks he can get a branch together in Indianapolis.  But he left
the last time because of the fighting in the GOB.  Groan.

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Subject: IWW Web page
Date:    31-Mar-95 at 09:39   
From:    Mitch Rice, INTERNET:mitch
luemarble.net

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Dear Fred, I was so exited about receiving your email, that I forgot
to mention that I have been working with the newest internet tool, the 
World Wide Web (WWW). If you have a web browser (I realize that cis does
not offer this, but then they do have good access, although costly, to 
newsgroups), you could visit my web pages at:

http://www.bluemarble.net/~mitch
The IWW page is at: http://www.bluemarble.net/~mitch/iww.html

You can find there the Southern Indiana Environmental Action Homepage,
as well as my newest link, the IWW!

I included the full text that you sent with the application.  Has anyone
else mounted an IWW web page? If so what is the address?

Do you have any other electronic documents that I could put with what you 
have already sent? Even if someone else has the official IWW page, I would
like to provide as much info here as possible to aid in organizing and 
networking.  

Is the "Industrial Worker" archived anywhere in cyberspace?
What about the current issue, is it available online yet?

I've only had full internet connectivity for 2 months, so I'm perhaps
still a tad too enthusiastic about it all!  Still I would like to help
the IWW become available through the net, there are many keyboard pounders
out there who could use our help.  Most recently here our liscence branch
employees went out on a one day wildcat sickout because of poor wages and 
no union representation - and they were all docked and repremanded.

Let me know if any of this sounds like it is worth doing, and I will respond

Mitch Rice aka Hoosier Slim
 





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Deke Motif Nihilson, X341697
GA Del. #94-33 
IU 560, S.F. GMB, IWW

No Fooling! It's my...
GEB Report #3, March 1995

Ways To Shanghai Me:
	snail-mail: c/o The Little Garden, 3004 16th St. #201, San Francisco CA 		94103
	e-mail: deke@fletcher.iww.org
	tel.: (415) 487-1902 M-F 10 a.m.- 6 p.m., PST; msg. OK

Correspondence Received:
     e-mail: 20 different FWs, with varying degrees of frequency
     snail-mail: FWs Meyers, 3/16; IU 620, 3/17; Philly GMB; O'ahu GMB; Rush

GEB Reports Received:
	ZT 3/4; JB 3/7; TM email 3/13, snail-mail 3/27; MD e 3/14, s 3/29;
	AK 3/16; JD 3/23; ZT 3/30

*****
GEB MEMBER CODES: JB= Jon Bekken, MD= Mike D'Amore, JD= Jeff Ditz, AK= 
Art Kazar, TM= Tai Miller, DN= Deke Nihilson, ZT= Zimya' A. Toms-Trend

VOTE CODES: Y= Yes, N= No, A= Abstain, X= No Vote on Record (to my knowledge)
*****

***** HERE'S WHERE OTHERS VOTE ON MY PRECIOUS THOUGHTS *****

OLD MOTIONS:

DN1 ($2000 to LVGMB/Lenny Flank Legal Defense/Offense):
JB-N/MD-Y/JD-A/AK-N/TM-Y/DN-Y/ZT-X   Status: EXPIRED

DN2 (Charter to Duluth, MN GMB):
JB-A/MD-Y/JD-Y/AK-Y/TM-Y/DN-Y/ZT-Y   Status: PASSES

DN3 (MD for GEB Chair):
JB-N/MD-A/JD-N/AK-A/TM-Y/DN-Y/ZT-N   Status: (virtually) PENDING

DN4 (Put Const. Change to Referendum):
JB-N/MD-Y/JD-N/AK-N/TM-Y/DN-Y/ZT-Y   Status: PASSES

DN5 (Remit Promised $1000 to B/PoC Drive):
JB-N/MD-Y/JD-N/AK-N/TM-Y/DN-Y/ZT-A   Status: GRIDLOCK

DN6 (Conflict Resolution, not Faction Fighting):
JB-N/MD-Y/JD-N/AK-N/TM-Y/DN-Y/ZT-N   Status: FAILS


***** HERE'S WHERE I VOTE ON OTHERS' PRECIOUS THOUGHTS *****

ZT1/JB8 (AK for GEB Chair): No

JD4 (Harrass Philly Even More): No
JD5/AK1 (Drop All Charges By FW Ervin Against FWs Bekken, Chase and 
	Rush): Abstain 

MD12 (Drop Charge 2, Abuse of Authority, Against FW Chase if DN6 Passes): Yes
MD13 ($200 to SLC GMB for 1 May): Yes

*************************************

SUBSEQUENT MOTIONS O' MINE:

DN7 ($1000 to SCGMB for Food Bin and Other, Related Organizing):
JB-X/MD-Y/JD-X/AK-X/TM-X/DN-Y/ZT-X   Status: Overriden by MD6, as amended
	(see my report of 28 Feb., re. discussion of MD6)

DN8 (Full GA Coverage of X341341 Legal Expenses, Under X341341 Control):
JB-X/MD-Y/JD-X/AK-X/TM-X/DN-Y/ZT-X   Status: PENDING


TEXTS OF NEW MOTIONS DN7 and 8 (And Some Context, Too):

***** HOW DN7 HAPPENED-- ONLINE! *****
	DN7 is the exact wording of Cory's letter, appended below, and approval
thereof. This was for the sake of expediency, in the face of the urgency
expressed therein.
	FW Mike D'Amore had already introduced MD6 proactively,
though, as he reported. As that malingered in the gridlocked GEB,
this came along via the online "iww-list";

*****begin Cory's online letter*****
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 95 13:25:29 PST
From: Corin Royal Drummond <newt@cruzio.com>
To: iww list <iww-list@fido.wps.com>
Subject: S.C. GMB proposal for funds from the Gen Admin

Santa Cruz General Membership Branch Request for Funds from the General Admin.

March 6, 1995

The Santa Cruz GMB of the IWW is undergoing a ripening of opportunities to 
support local shop floor struggles in the county.  Several shops have 
approached the local GMB for help.  Currently we are planning a retreat for 
the branch with the intention of clarifying our working strategy, and 
educating ourselves that we may be more effective organiziers.  We are also 
considering sponsoring a series of lectures or workshops open to the general 
public on topics pertaining to labor organizing and coalition building.  

Further, the Food Bin organizing campaign has developed to the point where 
workers are negotiating with the boss for concessions.  This is to be 
considered a victory of sorts, even though the Wob delegate there got fired, 
and that people are afraid to join the union and go the route of collective 
bargaining.  The S.C. GMB will continue to support that struggle, and 
contribute to their radicalization.  

There are many financial costs associated with this on going organizing.  Many 
of which are unanticipated.  I currently need money to print t-shirts which I 
intend to offer to Food Bin employees for slightly less than they cost.  There 
will likely be costs for printing flyers and other materials used in the Food 
Bin campaign, and there are other shops requesting help.  The S.C. GMB intends 
to develop new organizing literature adressing the needs of these shops.  Also 
the retreat and lecture series may encounter unforseen expenses.  

The S.C. GMB has shown itself to be thrifty in it's use of funds.  We are able 
to do for pennies what normally takes big bucks.  We don't expect to swallow 
huge ammounts of money, but we do want a chunk available to us to use.  

Therefore, I request $1000 to be sent to Kieth Kjoler, Treasurer of the S.C. 
GMB to be used for ongoing organizing expenses.  The money would be disbursed 
and accounted for in the usual way, by branch votes, and keeping of reciepts.  

Due to the urgent nature of the t-shirts printing, I request that this 
proposal be conducted by phone votes of the GEB.  

In Solidarity,

Corin Royal Drummond
x343030 delegate # 95-69


-- 
===: corin royal drummond :============: newt@cruzio.com :===: herbalist :===
===:                                                     :===: anarchist :===
===: health care necesitates revolutionary social change :===: wanderer  :===
*****end Cory's online letter*****

...which seemed to answer my (DN) concerns about SC even wanting such a
thing, or being able to use it as organizing contexts shifted in their
locality (as such are wont to do). So then I responded (mind you, this is
to a whole list of FWs):

*****begin Deke's posted response*****
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 14:53:37 -0800 (PST)
From: Deke Motif Nihilson <deke@wps.com>
To: "Michael D. Damore" <mdamore@moose.uvm.edu>
Cc: newt@cruzio.com, iww-list@fido.wps.com
Subject: Re: Food Bin Campaign, Quick Note.

Well, phone vote, sure... that's the kind of thing having a Chairthang is 
for, BTW. I will make calls very soon about this, like, um, tomorrow. No, 
really! I have a meeting to go to tonight, about some sorta radical queer 
thing, you know, the distractions of a petty-bourgeois lifestyle... 
hmmhmmhmm...  *:)

But how about a net-vote?

Just to keep it official, I'll so move and vote yes on the SC proposal. 
If amending MD6 isn't an option, as suggested in my report of 28 Feb., 
then call it DN7, and it's just exactly like SCGMB has laid it out via 
Cory. I'd imagine FW Tai will vote yes, but I'll be glad to call or 
otherwise bother her to be sure; 'sides, she's got access to the sciww 
account. Can whoever reads this down there get word to her to put her 
vote online?

Lessee, who else is anywhere near access? Maria, can you get w/Zimya and
get us an answer? Jeff, you still reading this list? None of your mail
ever bounces; please answer if you're there (as we all know you're not 
hip to phone votes). Jon, you're there, too; please be heard. That's six; 
only GEBster potentially out of the e-loop would be FW Kazar; anyone got 
the 411 on that? Mebbe I can work one phone call in tonight, or tomorrow, 
or, anyone else in GEBland out there able to do so? Or maybe he *is* 
online... or should be...

ANYway, that should give us the full vote of all seven board members, 
quickly, relatively cheaply, and in documented form.

And GHQ is online too, as is the GST. All bureaucracy (virtually) present
and, well, can we now be accounted for? Let's shall see... 

Come on, everybody-- it's a chance for all of us to do anything but bitch 
at each other with iww-list! 21st Century, ahoy...

Yours in Solidarity (despite my status as a differently-abled person 
living with bureaucratic titlage  *:),
--Deke Nihilson, x341697
long string of qualifiers, including GEB Member
*****end Deke's posted response*****

After much more mail, and calls, and things, all very multilateral
and interactive amongst online wobs (which means it's documented
electronically and, it is hoped, maybe you'll even see some of it
in the GOB), the conclusion was that MD6 passed after all...

***** beginning of online announcement of MD6 passage *****
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 12:46:32 -0800 (PST)
From: Deke Motif Nihilson <deke@wps.com>
To: iww-list@wps.com
Subject: $1000 for SCGMB

Fellow Workers,

I am pleased and proud to announce that, through the strategic use of 
telephonic and Internet communications media, I have ascertained that 
there are four YES votes on MD6, $1000 in organizing funds to Food Bin 
organizers, SCGMB. They are as follows:
Voting in favor: Mike D'Amore, Taiette Miller, Zimya A. Toms-Trend and 
Deke Motif Nihilson.

Forthcoming reports on the parts of ZT and TM will confirm this, as will 
any contact with them.

Further, all four votes consider and incorporate my friendly amendment to 
MD6, that the funds may be used for other organizing activities emerging 
out of the interest generated in the Union in Santa Cruz resulting from 
activities at the Food Bin, job shops that may not be the Food Bin 
itself. All four yes voters feel compelled to make this explicitly clear 
as an acceptable use of the $1000 we hereby grant.

FW Chase, please consider this a formal request on my part to expedite 
transfer of funds to SCGMB via its Treasurer, Keith Kjoller, as SCGMB has 
requested through FW Drummond. I'm sure folks there can facilitate you 
with any other details you may need in order to transfer such funds 
forthwith.

In Solidarity for a Living IWW, 
and a speedup for we bureaucrats!  *:)
Deke Motif Nihilson, X341697
Member, GEB
***** end of online announcement of MD6 passage *****

...and the end of DN7, as it was withdrawn upon passage of MD6.


***** DN8 *****
Again, from online...

OFFICIAL BOARD MOTION, 21 March 1995 e.v.
(exact wording here:)

DN8: The GEB of the IWW hereby compels and requires that the full legal 
expenses of FW Lenny Flank, X341341 L.V. GMB/Boulevard Bingo Dispute 
Delegate, be covered by the General Administration of the IWW, expenses 
in full to be paid from the Nelson funds and full authority of 
expenditures to be retained by FW Flank and such committee of members in 
good standing as he may gather around him, all decisions of which to be 
made by fully democratic vote (consensus recommended).

(discussion follows...)

***** HERE'S WHERE I VOTE ON OTHERS' PRECIOUS THOUGHTS *****

ZT1/JB8 (AK for GEB Chair): No

JD4 (Harrass Philly Even More): No
JD5/AK1 (Drop All Charges By FW Ervin Against FWs Bekken, Chase and 
	Rush): Abstain 

MD12 (Drop Charge 2, Abuse of Authority, Against FW Chase if DN6 Passes): Yes
MD13 ($200 to SLC GMB for 1 May): Yes

*************************************

Discussion (Like Ya Weren't Gettin' Enough!):

###
The final disposition of DN1-- which, after all was nothing less than the 
recognition of a Fellow Worker's cries for help from the very trenches-- 
is PATHETIC. This is a mark of shame on the whole of the OBU, and I 
heartily encourage the whole of the membership to a) maximize efforts on the 
local level to raise cash aid for FW Flank and the LVIWW, and b) remember 
the votes well. We Never Forget exactly because, next time, it could be 
ourselves on the line without help.

###
DN4 is a motion to put something to a Referendum of the whole of the
membership. I support (and personally prefer) the gathering of 15
signatures to do same, for all the obvious reasons. But what happens
when you're a loner wob in your area? That's a lot harder to do! That
the GEB can do it for you equalizes the democratic process at hand, and
like they say in my industry, "That's a Win for our team!"

###
What I had to say about DN8 at the time I so moved:
> 
> P.S. If that's too ostentatious for the full four votes decency demands 
> of this board, I shall render it even more bluntly, and/or fully welcome and 
> entertain (truly) Friendly Amendments. My aim is to be as clear as 
> possible within the demands of the IMMEDIATE EMERGENCY. 
> 
> (If) SOLIDARITY (Means Anything),
> Deke Motif Nihilson, X341697
> of the Dick-Head GEB
> 
> Special P.S. :  Academic Quote Du Jour:
> 
> "Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish."  --Euripides

###
JD5/AK1-- So okay, if this passes: 1) there is to be dismissal of
charges for some, 2) there is to be ongoing investigation of others, and
3) the serious concerns that FW Ervin has raised about how justice is
ascertained in this Union is to be dealt with in secret by a bickering
Board, and/or, publicly dismissed and ignored? I find this to be an
unacceptable alternative to what we have now, as it only serves to
perpetuate the problems at hand rather than solve them.
	I don't know how many on the Board have actually spoken with
FW Ervin about the charges he's brought, but I have. I don't pretend
to speak for FW Ervin-- he does that just fine on his own! But it
is my sense that, in feeling squelched by those "above" him in
a heirarchy he could otherwise not hold accountable, he turned to
such extreme and poor measures as our constitution solely provides for-- 
charges toward expulsion. I do not believe that he sought this as
his ultimate end, but rather, as his only path to a sense of justice
under such rules as we hold ourselves to in common.
	It seems to me that to punt on such a complex situation 
(by dismissing the charges) while continuing the pattern that
started it (harassment of a local by GHQ/GEBsters), and further to
dismiss utterly such concerns of a member while offering absolutely
*no* proactive alternative in which those concerns may more widely
be addressed, reeks of, at very least, a certain flagrance of denial
unbecoming the IWW.
	At worst, it's downright unjust. In the absence of a wider
engagement of the issues raised by FW Ervin, such as I've tried to
do with DN6 (to good or ill is your call), I am compelled to abstain
from the uneven dispensation of disengagement from such poor
processes as we have currently provided for in the constitution,
while continuing my call for a wider dialogue on conflict resolution
in the IWW.

###
MD12-- Though I vote yes (for the record), it is my understanding that
this is withdrawn upon the failure to pass of DN6. Essentially, MD12
was a patch for the one charge I missed in the Litany of Officiation
that indeed was DN6 (oops!). It was my full intent to drop all these
charges in DN6, and I appreciate the helping hand FW D'Amore gave me
in clarifying that for the record.


Other Miscellany:

* ON TELEPHONES AND INTERNET AS TOOLS WITH WHICH TO CONDUCT BUSINESS 
	While understanding the concerns that not everyone may be informed
all the time of everything (obviously such a high priority to this
Board!), I find it rather absurd that there are those of us who
argue that it is illegitimate for the GEB to use any means more
modern than the Postal System in order to communicate and thereby
make decisions.
	Hey, this is 1995! While the telephone is inherently exclusive 
(even with conferencing technology), it's been around a long time--
most anyone can access one, and it provides for an interactive
communication format that is second only to face-to-face. Meanwhile,
please bear in mind that I work on the Internet (which, by the way,
should really be considered an industry all its own, as it's a
hybrid of phones, press, post and computers... just the sort of
thing Father Haggerty left room in th'wheel for!). Now, it may
still be somewhat exclusionary-- only 30 million people worldwide
are on the 'net, in most countries on the planet, and the
'net-population is only growing at an estimated rate of 10-15% a
month. However, to talk about the 'net's accessibility in 1995 is 
comparative to talking about the accessibility of telephone technology
in, say, 1916, and to call it thereby illegitimate is like saying
we shouldn't send postal mail to each other because not everyone has
mailboxes, or that some people have mean neighbors who steal their mail
so they wouldn't see it anyway. In other words, rather absurd.
	I am currently a member of virtual-IU 560, Communications. I
switched from v-IU 570, Data Entry and Retreival because, although
that's the closest our Union comes to acknowledging the Computer 
Industry (and a pretty huge one it is at this point in History), that's
not really what we do at the point of production where I work; rather,
we use Phone Lines to network computer systems cheaply, self-
autonomously, and (in terms of information, "bits" we call 'em)
voluminously.
	I'll compel no one else to participate, though I will most
certainly offer access to all this cybershit to all my FWs as my
knowledge and understanding increase my ability to, in organizing
with others, assume some control of the industrial point at which I
produce for a living. However, you simply cannot convince me that
my industry as it stands in 1995 is an illegitimate way to 
communicate-- I know better! I work there! 
	This is the 21st century, not the 19th. If we are to survive
into the future, I suggest that we wake up to the way the world 
today works, and in taking advantage of the (perhaps) momentary
access thereunto that is truly all around us, help shape its
development into the future, for the sake of our Union, our class
and our Planet. Maybe someday soon we run the Internet on solar! 
But not by snubbing the opportunity in a misguided, small-minded
snail-mail supremacism... 
	Blessed Be!

(Gee, has that been on my mind, or *what*?  *:)

Oh-- one more thing (not really, though)-- BTW, you still awake, Fred?--

I hereby request, indeed demand that the full text of DN6 (including
amendment as qualified by MD12) be included in full in the next GOB,
if in fact our Union is still producing and distributing that august
publication, and the record of the GEB votes cast along with it,
so that the full of the membership may better understand just what
all the votes, let alone the fuss, generated by said motion are
all about. As ever, I most ardently desire to put the issue before
the only real rightful power in this Union-- the rank-and-file of
the membership ourselves.


In Solidarity,



Deke Nihilson, X341697
IU 560, S.F. GMB, IWW
31 March 1995 Era Vulgaris

virtual-cc's: copies of this are being snail-mailed to all members
of the GEB (including all alternates), the GST, FWs Rush and Meyers
(who have requested copies of my reports from me; you can too!),
and FW Ervin to boot.


AND, Another Thing...

Exhibit A:

ABOUT ALL THIS `COERCIVE' LANGUAGE

There are those who complain that the language of my GEB motions is 
overly coercive, seeking to "compel," "officiate" and otherwise "bind" 
the Union in some matter or another. I would first ask those detractors 
just what they think an EXECUTIVE board exists to do? I would assert 
(ahem) that that is exactly the function of the GEB, for better or 
(often) for worse, and that such language merely renders explicit the 
processes involved in such a body as the GEB. This is not to say that I 
particularly *like* such behavior, at least not without a lot of mutual 
consent and a few "safe words," but it was going on when I got here and 
in no sense has this been a safe, sane OR consensual process within the 
Union. So what's a girl to do?

I would further point out that what I seek to `compel' etc. is this
organization itself, and especially its well-fed bureaucracy, not any
particular member herein. I find it the height of, um, irony that those
who have been so publicly upset by such language in my motions are often
seeking, implicitly, to coerce or bind or whatever, individuals and
"subordinate" entities within the Union, and often confusing the two in
the process to boot (the Philadelphia GMB is a textbook example). I find
the subliminal message in this to be "You'd better behave, but don't tell
*me* what to do"-- as if their liberty as a once or future executive of
the OBU is on the line! Like we say in my neighborhood, "Oh PLEASE,
Mary..."  This sort of cloying, one-sided libertarianism is exactly my 
beef with, for example, anarcho-capitalists, though I'm no bigot, some of 
my best friends etc. etc.

As much as I love our Union, it is unfortunate that such "coercive" 
language continues to be necessary-- but it is merely the form of the
functions served by such entities as an Executive Board and a
Headquarters, all so full of Generals and their generalities, so many of
whom primarily occupy themselves by playing Boss of a very generalized
budget (but not for you!), doling scraps of money and subsequent
persecution to organizers within the Union (lowly GMBs etc.). In this
context, I seek to compel the Union in another, different-than-that
direction-- and hey, that's about all a spot on the GEB is good for.
Meanwhile, myriad are the examples of the GEB being ignored by the
membership, the GHQ, and even itself-- I've characterized this as "going
through the motions," more and less literally. Oh, let me be more specific
than all that... 

Look, okay, I'm pretty unabashedly an anarchist, folks. My leadership 
style is thusly: I am relentlessly fabulous, and encourage others around 
me to be likewise because they can be, and should settle for nothing less 
in their lives and worlds. I bust my ass and ask for help a lot. I 
involve myself in supporting others, not *just* financially if and when 
possible, without subsequent coercion, but also in the efforts of my own 
life and work. This is something akin to the leadership of initiative, 
except maybe a little more existential. It is in this sense that I assert 
(ahem) that we are *all* leaders, or could be, or should be if a better 
world is truly our aim in all this. 

I do not pretend that such leadership is really possible in such an 
outdated format as the GEB. What I do pretend is that playing a role on such 
a board can be a way to hold the line against the implicitly coercive 
behaviors of those who would hold such roles in order to control access 
to resources like the Anderson and Nelson bequests, and to maintain that 
control by persecuting anyone who has gained access to those resources in 
the past, other than their own particular projects of course.

Is this clear enough? Or shall I be encouraged to be even more blunt?

In All the Solidarity You Can Endure,
--Deke Motif Nihilson, X341697
28 March 1995 Era Vulgaris

P.S. I'll be sure to append this to my next Executive Report, for the 
sake of sweet, if general, clarity.  *:)


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On Sat, 1 Apr 1995, Deke Motif Nihilson wrote:
> From: Fred Chase <73174.77@compuserve.com>
> Some of the fellow worker's questions are over my head.  Can someone 
> here give him a good response?  Former fellow worker anxious to rejoin.
> Thinks he can get a branch together in Indianapolis.  But he left
> the last time because of the fighting in the GOB.  Groan.

> I included the full text that you sent with the application.  Has anyone
> else mounted an IWW web page? If so what is the address?

http://iww.org/

> Is the "Industrial Worker" archived anywhere in cyberspace?
> What about the current issue, is it available online yet?

Not that we know of, to both questions.

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>Can someone advise on the creation of new industrial unions?
>We arecurrently organising couriers in London, a drive which may
> become "national".  So far most have been recruited to IU 530.
> However we are getting requests for membership form cycle
couriers
> who object to being in the Motor Transport Union.  Ideally we
should
> set up IU 535: The Dispatch Workers Industrial Union,

Exactly the way to go!

>but I am not sure how we go about this.  Some have said we need a
>change in the constitution for this but I can find no such
constitutiona

No way.  That is a matter within the IU,  they can create any
administrative structures they want to,  as long as not violating
the IWW.  Do it!

> A similar problem is arising among the long term unemployed. ...
They
>I have suggested IU 700, the union for the unemployed but there
appear
> to be  objections to this approach. What do you think?

Yeah, the normal is to sign up according to the last job they had.
But  what I think,  is that every person provides something to her
community.   Some are care givers for children or elderly,  some a
are home makers,  some are perhaps  unpaid artists or story
tellers.... So we can look at  it that way,  if it's a case of not
knowing where they fit in.

If you need a separate entity of unemployed, to campaign on those
issues, it could be called a  `unemployed committee', `coalition'
or some other word within the IWW.

Hope this helps,

Carlos Murray       `I + yoU = industrial union' Ottawa
IWW

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> setting up a Majordomo server here-- and there's a local FW
>who knows how to  do that and has said he'll  do it here. He's
got experience and interest,

Corin says he will help  `talk' on a health list,  so this can go
forward whenever your people have it ready.

> IU 610 oughta be a lively list!, as it strikes me as a pretty
> computer-literate industry...

Yeah.   The potential is quite vast.  For all these decades the
IWW has been deprived of members who didn't know it exists,  and
the IWW didn't have the money/media power to inform them.  With
email that barrier is gone.

PLUS  it enables us to do what we could never quite manage, due to
costs -- create industry specific media.   This knocks down that
other barrier,  the  perception of IWW as too general, broad and
abstract.

With these barriers gone, the opportunity is tremendous.

Re:  wider access to iww.org

My limited understanding,  like for example IGC  has local phone
access all over the place, either  via their own machines or
piggybacked on other carriers  or via  datapac numbers.  So I
guess it would need to be done that way,  but we'd have to buy
carrier/datapac access.

Carlos Murray Ottawa
IWW

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							   April
							   4,
							   1995

Friend Workers,

       People who work in health services want an industrial union
to unite on the basis of equality and democracy, across all
dividing lines of occupations and professions.  An industrial
union will give us a strong voice in political and economic
decisions,  and a network for sharing support and information on
local and global concerns.

      As of 3/23/95, the GHQ shows 31 health worker members  (some
a bit behind on dues).  Another 20 or so,  have not paid dues in
the last year.  This is more than enough to start IU610,  and we
need your help.

      IU610 herbalist Corin Drummond is engaged in labor action at
a California health food & herb store.  A new pamphlet, `Labor Law
for the Rank-and-File Health Care Worker,'  is written by
Wobblies, available soon from GHQ.  A new IU610 e-mail
communications list is planned this Summer from fletcher.iww.org.


      My own local efforts are towards a massage practitioners'
co-op.  I've also been corresponding by e-mail with a number of
health workers,  and find a good level of interest in a health
industry union.  I recently heard from FW Mallon Harris,  Atlanta
chiropractor and new IWW member with organizing ideas.

       IWW-GST Fred Chase has made contact with some Great Lakes
area workers:  "Sounds like we could get about 30 new Wobs if they
are convinced that the revitalization of IU 610 is real,"  writes
Fred 3/23/95.

       Share the news of YOUR organizing efforts, also your
suggestions for IU610 projects:  write to the Industrial Worker
newspaper or the G.O.B.,  or via IWW e-mail lists.  There is
plenty of groundwork needed to make IU610 functional.  Your
contribution adds to the whole.

      But first!  Please write to IWW-GST Fred Chase.  Ask for a
`charter to administrate Industrial Union #610,  Health Service
Workers.'   Make sure your IWW dues are paid up, so your voice
will be counted.

      Write that letter to Fred today, and send it to:  IWW-GST,
103 W. Michigan Ave., Ypsilanti MI  48197--5438.
Fax:313-483-4050.

Thank You!  In Solidarity, Carlos Lee Murray   (polarity +0-
therapy) 388- 1/2 Kent,  Ottawa ON  K2P 2A9  Canada tel:
613-231-2922   E-mail:  indwrk@web.apc.org    OR:
BH295@Freenet.Carleton.Ca

a.k.a: Lee Johannes
###

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Hi y'all--

I've just finished my new GEB report, and it's *500* lines long (eek! 
didn't mean to, sorry etc...) Those of you who are due or who have 
requested copies be sent to you will receive them in the plain old 
snail-mail.

Due to the length (to say nothing of the mature theme of the 
viewing material and subject matter  *:), I'm not just gonna send this 
one to all y'all, as I do that sorta thing too much already and I'm 
trying to be more sensitive as a compliment to my touchy-feeliness, of 
which I am justifiably proud...

But it is available in electronic format. So if you can't wait for the 
donkey to make it across the continent, just send me a note to request a 
copy and I'll email you one. Send it to me at:  deke@fletcher.iww.org

And it'll come shrieking your way like so many electrons.


Soli,
Deke  X341697

From mitch@bluemarble.net Sat Apr  1 21:48:10 1995
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Fred Chase put me on to your IWW web page.

I am just a beginner at this stuff, but I do have the IWW email stuff
Fred sent me in my Southern Indiana Environmental Action Page.
Come and visit my efforts at: 

http://www.bluemarble.net/~mitch

I downloaded tsunami, but could find no email address so that I could get
permission to mount it in my web. Could you supply this?

I am a backsliding wob, not paid dues or attention for about ten years, the
main office was still in Chicago last I remembered.  

I recently met Judi Bari when she visited here, and her stories and music
reinvigorated my interest in the iww, and its apparent resurgence.  I 
have sent my application, and hope to hear back from Fred soon. 

If you feel I am ready, please link my page to yours, as I am adding
yours to mine tonight.  I consider my web a work in progress, not really 
ready for prime time, so I have not sent notices to Yahoo, etc. yet.
I compose from lynx, and really don't know what I'm doing looks like with 
a graphic browser! 

Have you any good wob graphics that I might mount?  I have a friend with
a scanner, and may try to get some of the great older iww stuff I have 
online, what do you think? I'll let you know if I have any success.

Well, looks like I've run on again, it's just exciting to find a fellow
worker online!

			Solidarity
				Mitch Rice, aka Hoosier Slim

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Hi Y'all--

Just a quick, 11th hour note to let you all know that I'll be away from 
my usual post from 2-10 April-- no fooling!

Details forthcoming later, but it's midnight and I got a plane to catch 
in six housr (or so) and a bit of packing left to do. In addition to 
getting th'hell outta town for a week, IWW organizing (of course) figures 
prominently in my impending adventures.

But-- this means that, though I'll try to check in, there's no guarantee 
that I'll even have effective access (though it's probable). What's also 
probable is that a) I won't be around to add/delete people to/from the 
iww-list and b) won't be responding to much mail until after 10 April. 
Please pardon the inconvenience as I bust ass to improve service to *you*...

In Solidarity,
Deke  X341697
deke@iww.org

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On Sat, 1 Apr 1995, Deke Motif Nihilson wrote:

> Hi Mitch, Deke here. Um, I'm just sysadmin at fletcher-- I do the 
> unglamorous, behind-the-scenes shitwork that keeps the damn thing up! Who 
> you wanna hook up with (among many others, surely), is FW Gnat-- he's the 
> one doing the work you're asking questions about. His e-ddress is:
> gnat@iww.org   I'll fwd your note along to him meanwhile...

Thanks
 
> So, you're back for more. Cool! BTW, it was Judi who convinced me to join
> too, just in the course of her relentless fabulousness as an EF!/IWW
> organizer. You know there's still people in this Union who maintain that
> she never did anything for the IWW, just ripped it off? Go figure... 

I left the IWW on my back burner in large part because infighting and 
flaming, and bickering about the fine points (of anything!) seemed to be 
more of a focus than organizing, or even just being a wob.  My focus
is music, I've worked since 1976 as a street singer (part time, I have a 
small family to support, so I also work as a mason), and my work to save 
the world has been with various environmental groups. (See the PCB Blues,
and Hiway 69 on Mitch's Music Homepage). Meeting Judi was like finding my
long lost sister, only to find we were still on the same path, only she is
a bit farther along than I. She reaffirmed my approach, in fact put me in
front of all the locals who came to hear _her_ speak, and had me sing and 
speak about our local problems before her lecture - her way of telling
folks to focus on our local affairs, but it really boosted my ego to know
we were on the same page in regards how to change people.  BTW, I have 
quite a repetoire of UMW, CIO, and especially IWW songs that I perform
here- Joe Hill, Woody Guthrie, and Pete Seegar being my musical and 
personal heroes.  

> ANYway. More than glad to have ya aboard-- we got a whole domain over 
> here, and can use all the hands, in all the places, we can get. As you're 
> pretty net-savvy, I'm sure you know how this is.

Not entirely, but I'd love to find out. I've been 15 years in the building
trades, and at 47 I'm starting to wear out!
 
> When ya get your red card, do let me know if ya want to be on the 
> iww-list. It's a pretty high-flame area, but, its got its moments of 
> shimmering brilliance too-- much like the OBU! And, if ya want an 
> account on fletcher, just let me know by asking for one and-- send me 
> that X number. 

 I'm not familiar with fletcher, your domain; what would an account help
me with?  I don't get all the newsgroups I want from my provider, and am
checking into telneting to envirolink to get them.  Could having an 
account with fletcher help this?  

I am quite willing to help the IWW with anything I can computerwise:
I can format html, and I run a mailing list called Politics and Ecology,
an academicly oriented list that I run on majordomo ( I just recently took 
over ownership when the previous owner was quiting, and no one else was willing
to take it.  I think I'm the only non-academic on the list, and though
I've had internet access for only a couple of months, apparently I'm one 
of the more computer saavy. Go figure.

> Can't wait to check your page out myself, but I'm off for 8 days on an 
> organizing trip, foci in Queer labor and (of course) Internet (in which 
> I'm employed). I look forward to keeping in touch with you, and meanwhile 
> remain
> 
> In Industrial Solidarity,
> Deke Nihilson  X341697
> deke@fletcher.iww.org
> 
Thanks for your reply, I love getting email!

*****************
Mitch Rice
Freelance Cogitator,
Musician &
Environmentalist Whacko
http://www.bluemarble.net/~mitch
mitch@bluemarble.net

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Below is the partial text of a request for submissions I received in
the mail.  It seems like some of the work L&R has published would
be quite appropriate.  I will be sending my "The Right To Love,
The Right to Kill" article (which appeared in L&R and elsewhere in
the anarchist and queer press).  Julia's article that appeared in
L&R and Free Society also seems like an excellent submission, as
well as the "Stonewall was a Riot" poster.

Please pass the announcement along to interested parties. It can
also be printed in the FedBull (the project people ask to publish
it widely) if there's time before May 1.

-Liz

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To activists and activist organization

Queers R Us is a group of people around the country who are putting
together an anthology of radical queer writings, artwork, agitprop,
'zinework, etc. Our aim is to compile anti-assimilationist material
from the late 1980s through the present, material that, up until now,
has received only a limited audience. Some examples include the "I
Hate Straights" broadside, the "Absolutely Queer" wheatpasting series,
the "We Like Our Queers Out of Uniform" posters, and similar material
that we have never seen or heard about!  We are interested in the
works themselves as well as the reasons behind the works, responses
and follow-ups to the work, and anything else that people think is
interesting. We are soliciting new works as well and plan to assemble
all the material in a book format.

Send in your work, along with some info: why you did it, what you did
with it, responses. Send material (multiple copies if possible) or
inquiries to:

D. Gould
4646 N. Winchester Ave., #2
Chicago, IL 60640
Phone: 207-786-6453
Email: E. Rand (Bates College, Maine), erand@bates.edu

Deadline is May 1, 1995.







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Thanks, I got your phone message about the petitions, with the ones
from Philly it will be enough to submit. Love ya!


From deke@wps.com Sun Apr  2 20:08:16 1995
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Hey all,
	On behalf of Monkeywrench Press I would like to say that 
putting Lorenzo Komboa Ervin's stuff on line is cool, but I would 
encourage you to wait until the end of april when I can put it online 
myslef and save someone all the OCR work.  If you do put it online 
anyway, we ask that you include Lorenzo's  and MWP's contact info, plus 
a request that if you've got the money to purchase a copy of the book.  
Comming very soon are two pamphlets on international organization of 
resistence, and Anarcho-Syndicalism, and later on we will have his 
Autobiography, "Years of Struggle, Years of Death" also available.
	Actually, I would encourage those who want to type or scan in Lorenzo
s stuff to start on stuff no printed by us, since those articles are 
not already easily avialable in computer format (stuff like recenct 
articles in differnt magazines, and Black Autonomy (why not)).
	solidarity
	josie, x341890

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On Sat, 1 Apr 1995, Deke Motif Nihilson wrote:
> From: Mitch Rice <mitch@bluemarble.net>
> I downloaded tsunami, but could find no email address so that I could get
> permission to mount it in my web. Could you supply this?

I vaguely remember getting verbal permission from Josie to post Tsunami. 
The hardcopy version is being distributed free to whoever wants it.

> If you feel I am ready, please link my page to yours, as I am adding
> yours to mine tonight.  I consider my web a work in progress, not really 
> ready for prime time, so I have not sent notices to Yahoo, etc. yet.
> I compose from lynx, and really don't know what I'm doing looks like with 
> a graphic browser! 

If stuff looks OK with lynx, it probably looks fine with Netscape. It has
been suggested that we break long documents up into 5 - 10K pieces so they
won't take too long to download. 

> Have you any good wob graphics that I might mount?  I have a friend with
> a scanner, and may try to get some of the great older iww stuff I have 
> online, what do you think? I'll let you know if I have any success.

We don't have a scanner either & iww.org has no graphics card.  Good luck. 


From kevin.brandstatter@bbsrc.ac.uk Mon Apr  3 04:38:30 1995
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SCRUB THE REPORT SENT BEFORE THE WEEKEND.  THERE IS A NEW UP-TO-DATE REPORT SET
OUT BELOW.

(The earlier report had a number of inaccuracies!)

Membership Summary

Total on the books:  68

Paid to March 1995: 55
Paid to Feb 1995   : 55
Paid to Jan 1995   : 55
"  "  "  Dec 1994  :  57
"  "  "  Nov 1994  :  57
" " "    Oct 1994   :  62
" " "    Sep 1994   :  68

A few are in extremely bad standing at present, mostly those where there is no
branch/group machinery, however to balance against that at least 20 and
possibly 25 are paid in advance!

Of the 55 In good standing IU membership is as follows:

Education Workers IU 620  - 19 (with two more who SHOULD be fully paid up by
now)
Transport Workers IU 530   -   8 (of whom 7 are in the couriers union)
Public Service Wkrs IU 670 -  5
Health Workers IU 610       -   4
Printing And Pub IU 450     -   3
Construction IU 310           -   2
Construction IU 330           -   2
Gen Distribution IU 660      -   2
Data Processing IU 570      -   2

One each for IU 220, IU 560, IU 640, IU 680, IU 510.  With three in no
identified union.


(Append here the activities of the Education and Research Workers Union and the
Couriers union, together with the report of the unemployed workers).

Part Two to follow later.

Kevin Brandstatter
IWW Swindon Branch on behalf of delegates east of the atlantic.

From deke@wps.com Mon Apr  3 07:59:22 1995
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Fellow Workers, 
	After reading this list for a couple weeks, I have a question, 
what is its purpose?  Most of the e-mail seems to be of the poison pen 
variety, usually coming from the same people.  Certainly the IWW has its 
internal problems which need to be ironed out, but how do 
frivilous accusations of other fellow workers being "FBI agents", 
"lynchers", "racists", etc., help do anything but weaken the union?  The 
list seems to be more of a factional tool than an organizing tool.  Where 
do these fellow workers find the time to write this stuff, if they are so 
busy organizing?  I find it hard just to read it!
	Please take the time to consider what you write before you write 
it.  Let's build the union, not destroy it by conducting vendettas.  If 
you don't like the way the union is run, then run for the GEB or GST, or
propose revisions in the constitution or by-laws.  That is the democratic 
way to do things.  Smear campaigns and name-calling, no matter how 
effective they might be as means for destroying political rivals, destroy 
the solidarity and mutual aid needed to keep the IWW going after the 
dispute is over. Instead I would suggest coming up with a more convincing 
argument why the union should do this or that, instead of just making 
personal attacks on anyone who disagrees with you.
					For the OBU, Jeff Stein
  

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Hi Friend Workers, Contents:  My opinions on BPOC cheque, Language
On the List,  Suggestion to start Legal Defense Committee.

Re: BPOC...

FW Ervin  handing in his delegate credentials should not stop the
cheque, IMO.  He is technically correct to hand them in if he
doesn't expect to file a delegate report in 30 days.  It would be
logical for him to assume that he would re-apply for delegate
credentials upon receiving the funding to make possible  his work
as a delegate.

The members have voted to fund FW Ervin this amount,  and that is
what they want to happen.  If it turns out some way wrong, then
the members are to blame, not the officers who write the check.

UNACCEPTABLE ACCUSATION
FW Flank, in a recent post said that another member is a paid
agent of the state.  IT was phrased as a question but the meaning
is the same.  IMHO  the membership cannot allow these kind of
statements to be made,  they are damaging to all.  An apology and
retraction are necessary.

ABUSIVE LANGUAGE
FW Flank in a more recent post called another member by a name
that is considered degrading and humiliating.  IMHO personal abuse
is damaging to the morale of everyone, not just the victim.

Further, it is one more obstacle to signing up members when we
have this kind of abusive talk in our common media.  The union
media are supposed to be accessible to all kinds of workers, not
just the few or even the majority.  So I ask all members to
voluntarily refrain from abusive name calling and personal
attacks, out of consideration for other people who don't consider
that a necessary part of their liberation.

Since I've criticized FW Flank's actions, I give him the right to
criticize my errors also.

LEGAL DEFENSE COMMITTEE
It is clear that IWW members are going to continue to run into
legal battles.   Let's put together a LDC,  made up of Wobs with
knowledge of aspects of labor law, and other Wobs to do
fundraising.  A LDC  can also function to give advice on legal
rights in drives and disputes, that is a service  every union
provides and we have to do it.  It will be an information resource
for delegates.

There are certain individuals in the union with a lot of knowledge
and experience in labor law.  Then there are others with a bit of
knowledge.  Together,  and each in our different locations,   we
can form a useful committee for answering legal questions.

We are fortunate in Ottawa to have a member with some ability in
this area,  and I will ask the member about being available for
such a committee,  for questions of Canadian law.

I suggest that we persuade our members who are most experienced in
labor law, to review the Flank case,  provide any possible
assistance to Len's lawyer, and advise the IWW on a winning
strategy in this case.   If necessary, pay our experts a fee  to
look at the documentation and write an opinion.

In the meantime I support funding the LVDF $2000.  The union
members and media can help more with fundraising from other
sources.  Maybe the Lawyers Guild might be interested in this
case.

--Carlos L Murray Ottawa

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I synchronized the system time, which had been about an hour slow, with my
watch, which I set to Ma Bell a couple of days ago.  I hope no
unfathomable Unix issues made this a bad idea. 


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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 17:52:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: San Francisco Fractal Factory <andyrose@netcom.com>
To: fnb-l@webcom.com
Subject: ping


Hi, this is a heads up roll call kind of thing.

Things are moving along - we (SF) are serving
13 meals a week and handled over one hundred 
for dinner the day before the checks came.
No arrests for a while now.

I am sending 10 more copies of the video tape
to Keith's travelling show, and he's taken
orders for more.  I hope you get to check in with him.

This list has around 40 subscribers, many who
heard of fnb-l from the webpage at
http://webcom.com/~peace  
Check it out!

Finally I am wondering if you can help me.
I need CT Butler's e-mail address if he has one.
I called 1800 884 1136 which you should all know
is the Food Not Bombs "National Hotline" and 
also CT's answering machine so I suppose I'll here
from him - but it's important so if you know it mail
me back.

Lastly I am about to call the 53 locals I have phone
numbers for and try to get an electronic contact from
every one of them.  If you can act as this person for
a local fnb write me back and I'll note the fact.

Thanks everyone,  you are fucking great!

"All we're saying is give us food not bombs"



From deke@wps.com Mon Apr  3 19:47:28 1995
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Hello FW's,
	I would just like to voice my support for FW Murray's 
suggestions on his recent post, with the proviso that it is unfair to 
single out FW Flank for criticism in his use of language.  It is 
unhelpful to put out accusations regarding members being paid agents or 
informants unless the person placing the accusation has some concrete 
information that they share at the time of the accusation.  However, it 
is important to look at the behaviour of members that is continuously 
distructive to the well functioning of the union, and the pursuit of 
the preamble's goals.  It is not really important in the long run if 
someone's actions are motivated by employment by an outside body, or 
simply because of pathalogical disfunctions.  If it has been hurting, 
is hurting and likely to continue to hurt the solidarity of the union 
it must be neutralized.  Either by challenge, ridicule, or simply 
ignoreing it into oblivion.
	I am not in favor of anyone being expelled from the union, but 
I am concerned by the way in which some members continue to spout lies 
and half-truths despite knowing better.
	In Solidarity for One Big Union,
	josie,x341890

From gnat@iww.org Mon Apr  3 20:35:18 1995
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To: links -- FNB <andyrose@netcom.com>, Dan <grotesk@zynet.com>,
        FAIR <mernst@theory.lcs.mit.edu>, Hyperreal <webmaster@hyperreal.com>,
        Jack Jansen <jack@cwi.nl>,
        Jimmer Endres <jimmer@bawdy.slip.cs.cmu.edu>,
        Justin Paulson <justin@sccs.swarthmore.edu>, LUMPEN <lumptime@mcs.com>,
        Michael Albert <zsysop@zbbs.com>, Mitch Rice <mitch@bluemarble.net>,
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cc: Deke Nihilssen <deke@wps.com>
Subject: backlinks & glossary links
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Greetings from the IU570 internet project.  For what it's worth, one of
each of your web pages is being pointed at from http://iww.org/

For hypertextual reference purposes, any instance of the terms _sabotage_
or _direct_action,_ especially in the context of the labor movement, can
be linked to

http://iww.org/labor/sabotage/s2.html
http://iww.org/labor/direct_action/s0.html#direct action

respectively, for extended discussions of the terms.

From loveandrage@burn.ucsd.edu Mon Apr  3 21:37:23 1995
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I got email from one of the people working on the Queer R Us
project I posted about yesterday.  She said the deadline had
been moved back to July 1, giving plenty of time to publish the
call for materials in the next paper & FedBull.

Tell all your queer friends...

-Liz

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From: len.flank@father.com (Len Flank)
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Date: Tue,  4 Apr 1995 13:12:32 GMT
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->         After reading this list for a couple weeks, I have a question
-> what is its purpose?  Most of the e-mail seems to be of the poison pe
-> variety, usually coming from the same people.  Certainly the IWW has
-> internal problems which need to be ironed out, but how do
-> frivilous accusations of other fellow workers being "FBI agents",
-> "lynchers", "racists", etc., help do anything but weaken the union?
-> list seems to be more of a factional tool than an organizing tool.  W
-> do these fellow workers find the time to write this stuff, if they ar
-> busy organizing?  I find it hard just to read it!
.
.
What is the purpose of the iww list?  I think a better question would
be "What is the purpose of the IWW?"  Is the purpose of this "union" to
print songbooks and newspapers and keeep aliove the memory of long=dead
labor heroes?  Or is it to organize workers and empower them?  The
priorities of the "union" seem clear (and it is NOT just the current
GEB, alhtough they seem to be racing headlong down a path that the IWW
has been on for years now).  The refusal to support people who are
actively organziing workers in the name of the IWW (Corin, the Philly
folks, Santa Cruz, myself) and the unspoken assumption that such
efforts are a waste of time and money, and only drain resources away
from the "real important studd" at GHQ and the IW, make it abundantly
clear that the IWW's commitment to "organizing workers" is at best mere
puffery and is at worst a deliberate distortion.  The IWW is apparently
not in the slightest interested in organizing workers, and is not at
all interested (or willing) to support those IWW members who ARE doing
organizing.
.
This is NOT a personal attack or a political vendetta (although
certainly the "union" has had its share of that too, and FW Stein has
been no stranger to it).  It is a plea that the IWW support in deeds
what it SAYS it supports in talk--is the IWW going to support its
organizers or isn't it?  Apparently, the IWW has decided that it isn't.
 How do YOU feel about that, FW Stein?  Which do YOU think is more
vital to the "union" --  saving our money to put out more issues of the
Industrial Worker and the Songbook, or giving aid to IWW organizers who
are being threatened by the bosses, like FW Corin and myself?
.
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Lenny Flank
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X341341
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Subject: BPOC, List Language, LDC
Date: Tue,  4 Apr 1995 13:21:35 GMT
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-> UNACCEPTABLE ACCUSATION
-> FW Flank, in a recent post said that another member is a paid
-> agent of the state.  IT was phrased as a question but the meaning
-> is the same.  IMHO  the membership cannot allow these kind of
-> statements to be made,  they are damaging to all.  An apology and
-> retraction are necessary.
.
.
Excuse me, I said nothing of the sort.  I said that "FW" Bekken is the
single most disruptive influence within the IWW today, that he has not,
to my knowledge, signed up a single solitary member into the IWW nor
has he ever organized a single solitary job shop in his life, and is
therefore in no way qualified to be using his official position and/or
his control over the purse strings to enforce his "advice" onto others.
I did NOT, repeat NOT, accuse him of being a paid FBI agent.  I *DID*
ASk him if he was, or if he just carried out his disruptive and
damaging (FW Bekken has done more damage to the IWW than I ever have,
IMHO) because he enjoys it.  In any case, if FW Bekken is NOTY being
paid by the Feds, he should be.  He is doing a terrific job in their
interests.
.
Since I have made no such accusation as stated here, I have nothing to
apologize for and nothing to retract.  If I am to be accused of
believing "FW" Bekken to be a closet Leninist who now has a little
power and likes it too much, then go ahead and accuse me.  I plead
guilty.  If I am to be accused of belieing that "FW" Bekken is using
his official position and his control over the purse strings to beat
people who disagree with him (or who don't accept his "oversight") into
submission, yep, that's is precisely what I believe.
.
If FW Bekken would like to file charges against me (why not, he has
filed charges against virtually everyone else who disagrees with him)
he is welcome to do so.  In fact, I am someahat jealous that he has NOT
filed anything against me so far, since it seems that one of the surest
signs that a FW is being an effective organizer for the IWW is to have
"FW" Bekken oppose your efforts ad file charges against you.
.
So go ahead, Jon--file away.
.
.
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Lenny Flank
X341341.
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Date: Tue,  4 Apr 1995 13:33:59 GMT
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-> I suggest that we persuade our members who are most experienced in
-> labor law, to review the Flank case,  provide any possible
-> assistance to Len's lawyer, and advise the IWW on a winning
-> strategy in this case.   If necessary, pay our experts a fee  to
-> look at the documentation and write an opinion.
->
-> In the meantime I support funding the LVDF $2000.  The union
-> members and media can help more with fundraising from other
-> sources.  Maybe the Lawyers Guild might be interested in this
-> case.
.
.
I've already gotten wuite enough "advice" as it is--everything from
"let *US* pick your lawyer" to "why don't you just pay the money" to
"why is this such a big deal anyway".  Gee, folks, thanks for the
useful "advice".
.
The blunt reality is that I don't need the "union's" "advice" right
now.  I already have a lawyer handling the case--he's doing a great
job, I am comfrotable working with him, and I see no reason whatsoever
to replace him in mid-stream with a horse of the "union's" choosing
(particualrly when the "union" didn't lift a finger to help me, legally
or otherwise, a year and a half ago when this whole thing started).  
.
I am very willing (as is my lawywer) to listen to the "union's" advice.
 I am NOT willing to abdicate control over this organizing campaign and
legal strategy to the GEB.  With all due respect, none of you have law
degrees and none of you are licensed to practice law in the state of
Pennsylvania.  So as far as the legal strategy and tactics we are
employing here, I respectfully suggest that you butt out.
.
As for the Lawyer's Guild idea (which is an extenstion of the "we don't
like your lawyer so let *US* pick one for you" idea), I answered this
before but I will answer it again for those who weren't listening.  I
*HAVE* approached the ACLU, Lawyer's Guild, Legal Aid etc etc etc.
The very first person I contacted was Lawyer's Guild member Fred
Rooney, who has done some minor legal work for the LV IWW in the past.
The bottom line is that, with no money, weren't going to get a lawyer,
period.  Nobody I talked to was willing to do the case pro bono.  I'm
sorry if y'all don't like that (I don't like it either) but that
decision was not mine.  Doug Kunkle agreed to take on the case and
represent me after at least six other attroneys turned me down (they
ALL wanted a minimum of $15,000 UP FRONT before they would take the
case).  Doug was willing to do the case for just $1500, about one-tenth
of what everybody else (inlcuding Lawyer's Guild attorn\ies) wanted for
teh case.  To those of you who insist that I find a free lawyer
somewhere (so the GEB won't have to pay for it) I respectfully suggest
that you fly to the Lehigh Valley for a few days and look around for
yourself.  I couldn't find a free lawyer here (this is the Lehigh
Valley, not Berkeley--the "Movement" has been dead here for thirty
years).  If you can find a free lawyer here, you're a better man than
me.
.
I need the "union" to SUPPORT me and HELP me in this fight.  I *DON'T
need the "union" to TAKE OVER for me.  We've been doing a damned good
job here so far, and I have every confidence in our abiulity to
continue to do so.  PLEASE help us out with the aid we need to keep
fighting.  But PLEASE don't try and muscel in and take over.  We are
alrady fighting one set of bosses.  We don't need another.
.
.
Lenny Flank
X341341
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.
.
.

From kevin.brandstatter@bbsrc.ac.uk Tue Apr  4 10:57:47 1995
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This mail is not really about the BPOC, List Language at all.  It is about the
LV IWW.

I have watched with growing concern and consternation the ongoing debate about
whether the IWW should support a member in trouble because the bosses, in this
case scum from the Boulevard Bingo Hall (BBH), have decided to sue one of our
own for having the temerity to take them on and win.

I think all members should note that any employer could be substituted for the
BBH.  It could have been (still might be) the Food Bin, the End Up, any
university where a member is a wage slave.  This side of the Atlantic any
courier company, Stevenson College employers, my own bosses.

I think the overriding principle should be WE LOOK AFTER OUR OWN.  It would not
worry me whether the member in question was alleged to have done dodgy deeds in
the past, or whether they are at one end or the other of IWW "politics", or
whether they were from one country or another.  The point is they are members
of our union.

I have tried looking back at what motion the GEB actually passed concerning
this. If I am right then the board agreed to send an amount of money to the
Lenny Flank Defence Fund NOT TO HIS LAWYERS.  hsi being the case the GST has no
option to pay the money into the Defenbce Fund which I believe is being managed
by the LV IWW.  I don't know what the practice is in the US but if a struggling
worker or group of workers comes to us and asks for money we raise what we can
and then send it to them.  We don't question what the money is being spent on,
who it is going to, or whether the strategy a group is pursuing is right or
wrong (from our point of view), we just send it.

I thought I made it clear in one of my mails not long after the IWW meeting in
Birmingham UK that the consensus of our meeting was that Lenny should receive
the full support of the IWW.  A paltry amount of two thousand dollars would
appear to us to be nothing when the livelihoood and liberty of one of our
members might be at stake.  The vacillations of the GEB over whether to support
Lenny or not are unacceptable and put us in a very bad light.  Of course we do
not like going to the courts but I would remind everyone that we are supposed
to be a direct action union and direct action might end up with members being
prosecuted.  We face a situation in the UK where ANY industrial action is
illegal .

1.  Any strike action, overtime ban or withdrawl of goodwill is a breach of
contract and can result in dismissal.  The employers have the power to sack
everyone or just the ringleaders.   There is no recourse to compensation,
limited appeal and no state support.

2.  Any union inducing members to breach contract are liable to pay damages for
any loss incurred unless they have had a lawful ballot which includes the
following hoops:

a. all ballots must be postal and be supervised by someone independent (the
union must pay for both)

b. the employer must be given a copy of the ballot paper at least seven days in
advance of the ballot, together with a list of each individual being balloted
and those being asked to take any action.

c. the employer must be given seven days notice of any action in writing 

3. If union members mount a sit down or sudden walkout the union outside the
workplace must repudiate the action within 24 hours and tell the members to get
back to work.  If the union fails to do this it is liable for damages and can
be fined.  This has happened to the Communication Workers union, who face
combined fines of one million pounds.   More importantly form individual wobs
points of view any individual promoting strike action can be sacked and fined
and a union is NOT allowed to take action in their defence.

Bearing in mind thses possible scenarios is the IWW west of the Atlantic saying
to us that any member in the UK facing large fines etc is on their own?

Kevin Brandstatter

PS If money is not sent soon to LV IWW I will get enouggh  signatures ona
petition for a referendum calling for unlimited financial support for the LV
IWW.

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Deke,
Hey. Are you involved in the May 6 national action? I'm guessing so.I'd like
to hear what Food Not Bombs, the Wobblies, ACT UP & SF in general are gonna'
do. NYC for once has really got it goin' on... I'd be glad to fax propaganda
if ya want. Also, I'm getting these PSA's about it to run on my little TV
show. If you know any media out there I'd be glad to send you some; as we
must hype this my dear. Let me know...
Wow. I haven't had a drink in OVER A MONTH!!! CAN YOU BELIEVE IT...Too much
work to do, as you are all to familular with.... I haven't heard from you in
a while... is everything ok? ... RSVP...  As always, I remain your
hippie-punk, John-Fredrick.   XOXO

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From: "Michael D. Damore" <mdamore@moose.uvm.edu>
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Jon Bekken a fed?  Not likely.  I should stop here, butI won't

	A federal agent could only hope, in his wildest dreams, to cause 
as much dissention and disruption to a functioning organization as Jon 
Bekken has to the IWW.  His history speaks for itself.  I personally have 
always defended Jon from such talk (and I have heard it from people 
before it was broahced in email), and I still will, but that does not 
mean that I must consider his power-mongering as a positive asset to the 
union.
	Ask Ed Jahn about justice doled out by Bekken's little Central committe, 
or the dozens of members who have just left in disgust over the years 
because it was easier that fighting the constitution wielding white 
knight of the Wobblies.  Or how about the 
decade long campaign by Resurgence to disrupt the WSA in order to gain 
the upper hand on US IWA affiliation (which is utterly meaningless 
anayway).  This is territorial pissing; there is no place for vanguradist 
tactics in the IWW and that's what we are talking about here.
	If a members action is disruptive, are we not responsible as 
fellow members to call him on it?  I say we are.

File away Jon,

Mike

From josie@iww.org Tue Apr  4 16:28:18 1995
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From: X341890 <josie@iww.org>
To: "X341697 (Deke Nihilson)" <deke@fletcher.iww.org>
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Hey Deke,
	This current security regime is not working, at least if you wish 
iww.org to be an organizing tool.  the only path that I've been able to 
find to get to iww.org is to go to ucscb then to wps then to iww.org.  
Somethng that I can do because I am conficdent about my understanding of 
the tech. and my access to other peoples passwords.  Virtually everyone 
in philadelphia have been locked out (including me), and they are all 
getting tons oof negative internet feeling for trying to figure out why 
they cannot get onto their accounts.  Further, since the root password is 
different I can't even try to fix things. Likewise, Tai for example is 
locked out because she does not know the sciww passwords.
	If you want iww.org to be an organizing tool, and not simply a 
cool toy, you will have to ask yourself some serious questions regarding 
the role of security in it.  These are in every way analogus to the role 
of security in an activist group.  If you make it impossible, or near 
impossible for people to join and use the system, you are not going to be 
able to have the sysem grow.  The FBI can get into your system anytime 
they want simply by taping your line and getting your passwords, as to 
hackers, what are you afraid they might do, and how often do you think 
they might do it?  Will they increase the posiblity of a system crash by 
more than %20?  Why not just monitor your access logs and search for 
suspiciouss log ons, and then block them out?  By definition, hackers 
will ultimately hack any security regime anyway, and maybe while they are 
hacking us they will start to read our literature, and sighn up *:) (hope 
springs eternal).
	If your system is a buisness or a toy, security is necessary and 
feasable in the way iww.org is set up, if your goal is to bring people 
onto the iternet, and get them to use it positively and in a 
selfempowering way, you will have to rethink it.  We all take risks when 
we organize, the wise policy is to evaluate your risks based on the pros 
and cons in achieving certain goals.
	Solidarity,
	josie, x341890

From deke@wps.com Tue Apr  4 16:28:40 1995
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From: "Michael D. Damore" <mdamore@moose.uvm.edu>
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Subject: Utah's May Day
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Fellow Workers:
	Hey check this out, I'm not complaining about anything.  Kinda 
new, kinda different...
	Seriously, I am writing to you because the board has been asked 
to consider a grant to the Utah GMB for their upcoming May Day 
Commemoration.  From what the Utah folks say, this annual event is much 
more than just a party, rather it is a way to get the membership together 
(some of whom are on the road quite often) and get everyone back into 
Wobble-mode.
	Since evry branch is in a different situation with their 
membership, I think it is a good idea to help them out a little, even 
though I was personally against it at first.  I have introduced a motion 
to grant $200 from the GA; but this is not much and I'm not even sure it 
will pass.  The event which usually draw about 150 people for rallies and 
concert and the like in a very anti0union state seems tohave some 
organizing potential, so.... I'm asking anyone who can, to consdier 
making a donation to the Uath branch to help defray the costs of this event.
	I am asking you all to consider this because I think that many 
people don't know much about the Utah brnach.  Do you know they're one of 
the largest in the union?  I didn't until I spoke with the secretary, Jen 
Madsen.  Since money seems to be real tight on the GA this year, I 
figured that sending this plea for all us FWs to pitch in might be a nice 
idea.
	Send any donation to the Utah GMB at PO Box 520514,  Salt Lake 
City, Utah   84152-0514.  Tell 'em to have a happy May Day.

Soli,
Mike

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IU's & DUES -- who gets what?

I think it is best if I just describe the situation I am looking
at.

Health workers,  local.  I want to set up a workers co-op  that
will help independent practitioners get more jobs.   Basically,
like a casual temp  agency.

Now if I get the technicalities ironed out,  these people will
join because it gives them work and a way to make more money.
They will be willing to pay some kind of member dues for the
client-referral service,  and also additional charges based on
their use of the facilities.

I think they will be willing to pay a portion of dues to some
`mother' organization,  if I tell them this is a union co-op shop
set up by the union they can understand that.

The thing that looks funny to me,  is that they will have to pay
portions to 3 places:  the IU admin,  the GMB,  and the IWW-GHQ
--- all this aside from funding the co-op itself.

I think the problem is payment to the GMB.  If we removed that
from the equation,  the workers would simply split their payments
between the local shop, and the international IU.
 It would not concern them to know that the IU passes part dues to
the larger federation
IWW.

The important factor here is that in this case, the job shop, the
health workers are not likely to be interested in the GMB activity
of promoting the IWW.  They are interested in working,  and they
may be interested in the wider health industry.  They will receive
the IW and GOB,  but may not look at them very much.  We are
assuming IU media will help focus them on issues of wider than
local importance and on their identity as industrial workers, and
also act as an interface with the rest of the IWW.

So,  I think when there is an IU the job shop should be exempted
from having to pay dues to the GMB.

I believe that the `IU Branch'  is already allowed to function
that way.  So I think that every IU job shop should be an
IUBranch,  regardless of numbers.

Comments welcome to list or e-mail me.

----Carlos Lee Murray ottawa

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	FWs D'Amore and Flank have pointed out that it is incorrect to state that
the Bingo Workers and the Lenny Flank Offense/Defense fund have received close
to $13,000 from the IWW.  They're right.  I should have said the *Lehigh Valley
Branch*, Bingo Workers, and LF O/D fund have received that amount.  Apologies
for the misstatement.

			Fred Chase 


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-> Jon Bekken a fed?  Not likely.  I should stop here, butI won't
->
->         A federal agent could only hope, in his wildest dreams, to ca
-> as much dissention and disruption to a functioning organization as Jo
-> Bekken has to the IWW.  His history speaks for itself.  I personally
-> always defended Jon from such talk (and I have heard it from people
-> before it was broahced in email), and I still will, but that does not
-> mean that I must consider his power-mongering as a positive asset to
-> union.
.
.
Quite right, FW.  To say that Bekken was really a Fed would imply that
the IWW was somehow worth the attention of the Feds, which, being a
micro-groupuscule of revolutionary wanna-be's who spend their time
arguing inncouous ideological bullshit, represents no threat to anybody
in any way shape or form.  The IWW can't even get its own act together.
 It certainly is not worth the attention of the Federales.
.
.
Lenny Flank
X341341
.
.
.

From deke@wps.com Wed Apr  5 09:38:15 1995
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> Quite right, FW.  To say that Bekken was really a Fed would imply that
> the IWW was somehow worth the attention of the Feds, which, being a
> micro-groupuscule of revolutionary wanna-be's who spend their time
> arguing inncouous ideological bullshit, represents no threat to anybody
> in any way shape or form.  The IWW can't even get its own act together.
>  It certainly is not worth the attention of the Federales.
> .
> .
> Lenny Flank
> X341341       


> .
I'm not arguing that any specific person in the IWW is a police agent; but
my experience on the left has led me to the conclusion that even the local
pro-wage slavery SEIU affliated union on the Stanford Campus has snitching 
agents of the State in it.  I volunteered once to teach a class on 
political economy in a free university setting and even there, there was
at least one, if not two informants reporting to the local "Red Squad".
How do I know?  Freedom of information act. 
When attending anti-war functions after awhile, you could always tell the
agents.  They were usually the ones who knew nothing about the real issues
and always advocated the most extremely violent measures.  Be aware
fellow workers.  Don't be paranoid; but be aware.  Just assume that
the agents of the State are keeping an eye on you, even in this small
organization.  The advice an older rad once gave me was to have suspected
agents in your affinity group do the shit-work, if possible.  Then, at
least you could make use of them.
And try to remember that there just aren't any
large organizations challenging the power of capital in the U.S.A.
or anywhere else for that matter.
Keep on keepin' on,
Mike B)


From deke@wps.com Wed Apr  5 11:17:39 1995
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Fellow workers, 
	Considering the level of discussion on this list, I should not be
surprised that by asking others to cease their personal attacks on other
IWW members, that I would also be personally attacked.  Personal attacks 
are, after all, the whole purpose of this list.  I am therefore spoiling 
the fun.
	Lenny, since you asked what I thought about the subject of your 
legal troubles, I will tell you that I agree that the union should help 
you to some extent.  However, I do not agree that the IWW should simply 
write out checks giving you whatever you ask for, no questions asked.  If 
you want the rest of the union to cooperate with you, then you must 
cooperate with the rest of the union, not just call them names if they 
don't just give you what you want.
	I suspect that you aren't getting the best legal help, just the
the guy who would work the cheapest.  I realize that you have had 
difficulty finding somebody willing to take on the case, but perhaps 
there is somebody in the union who could help you if you stopped hollering
at everybody and gave them a chance.  It seems to me that you are hardly one
to criticize others in the union for driving people away.
	Perhaps what I have to say will just fall on deaf ears.  I hope that
is not so, because if you tried working with other people in the union, I 
think you would get the help you need.
				Fraternally, Jeff Stein

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Jeff:
	No deaf ears here.  I was wondering why you thought that Lenny's 
counsel was inferior.  I mean, we all would certainly like to see any IWW 
member who is in trouble get the best defense possible, but I'm not sure 
waht another lawyer could have done in this case.  If there is a point 
specific to the case that you have drawn from the summaries sent by 
Lenny, then please spell it out let's talk about it.
	Personally I have never met with Doug Kunkle, as I have been away 
from the Lehigh Valley for the past two years (mostly), but I have spoken 
with him on the phone and I try to keep up to date with Lenny's perils.  
It seems to me that the appeal is clearly a strong one and that the judge 
was just being a dick -- this is not an unusual occurance in any case 
involving labor and in this one in particular.  The Bingo operator was a 
significant supporter of the Lehigh County DA, and in return received 
special treatment from the county even before the Bingo workers ever 
struck and the IWW cam on the scene.  Since we've been involved in this 
struggle, we have received only static from the county "law enforcement" 
officials because of this cozy relationship (again, not unusual or 
unexpected).  It seems to me that a county judge is not above reproach 
and bribery either (I plan to check Judge Wallach's campaign 
contributions on file for his 1991 election when I get back in town in 
May, and then we will find out).
	Kunkle has done everything he could.  He made a motion to dismiss 
on the grounds that it illegal, even according to capitalist law to award 
punitive damages when no actual damages are found.  What more he could 
have done, I do not know.

Soli,
Mike

From deke@wps.com Wed Apr  5 16:39:23 1995
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From: Jon Bekken <jbekken@igc.apc.org>
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While meaning well, FW Murray is not helpful in saying "just do it"
It is quite clear that Industrial Unions can set up whatever internal
structures they desire once they are established.  It is equally
clear that to become established in a formal sense, an Industrial
Union needs to (a) meet the constitutional requirements for seeking
a charter (25 members and job control in at least one shop), (b)
petition the GEB for a charter, (c) have some form of democratically
arrived at Bylaws or other structural agreement consistent with the
requirements of the IWW Constitution and Bylaws (this need not be
elaborate, by any means).  Such an IU could not, however, simply
declare a new industrial union.  It would have to go through the
same process.  And as a Board member it is clear to me that we cannot
simply charter IUs where the members therein are logically covered
in another already existing industrial union (whether formally
established or, like all our IUs at present, merely nascent).

It is simply impossible to create a new industrial union or to
change the name of an existing one without a referendum.

Jon Bekken

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> 
> Hi Carlos,
> 	My understanding of the constitution and practice of the IWW is 
> that if you have a jobshop that is part of an IU, dues are split 
> between the jobshop (local body), and the IU (international body).  
> GMB's don't come into the picture at all, and any contribution from the 
> IU to GHQ is subject to negotiation between both bodies.  In 
> philadelphia we have chosen, for the time being, not to form all the 
> jobshops that our membership falls into, because this would effecively 
> disolve our GMB, and at the same time, the Wooden Shoe decided of its 
> own volition not to set up a separate tresury, and have us (the GMB) 
> lprovided member services for them.
> 	As IU's are effectively co-equal bodies with the GHQ on most 
> matters (they can't for example, change dues structures, or anything 
> that does not spcifically relate to their own members) and issue their 
> own charters, delegates, etc, it isup to the IU to determine its 
> functioning and how dues money, etc. is split up.  For that matter, an 
> IU could decide to handle the distribution of members sevices entirely 
> on its own if it felt that it could do a better job, and its 
> constituant membership was in agreement (bundleing the GOB, IW with IU 
> specific literature could prove much more economical).
> 	In Solidarity,
> 	josie, x341890
> PS I eagarly await the word of the IWW pope, and cardinals on  this.
> 

From deke@wps.com Wed Apr  5 17:08:27 1995
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I grow weary of the sort of abuse penned by FW D'Amore and Flank in
recent days.  It is precisely this sort of reckless namecalling that
prompted the membership to add to the IWW Constitution the clause
about circulating unsubstantiated accusations and requiring that
disputes be handled through a charges process in which evidence
could be presented and discussed and a reasoned decision reached.

The specific charges raised are ludicrous in the extreme to anyone
who has been in this organization more than a few minutes.  I have
personally signed up far, far more members than the self-proclaimed
organizers who heap abuse and accusations (ok, suspicions) of FBIdom
on my head.  I have been involved in several IWW organizing efforts,
and am working with two right now of quite substantial scale.  I
could go on, but why bother -- certain people have demonstrated that
they are quite unwilling to be swayed by facts.

As for FW Ed Jahn, he was recalled from the General Executive Board
by a vote of the entire membership (it was not close) after they
tired of his campaign of sabotage against the union.  He was then
expelled by teh General Convention based on charges filed by
several members (I charged him with circulating unsubstantiated
accusations, other FWs charged him with financial misconduct and
with sabotaging the union's computer -- he was convicted on all
counts, by my memory), and chose not to appeal to the general
membership which surely would have upheld his expulsion.

We all could indeed learn a lesson from looking back at this sorry
incident -- the membership is patient with disruptionists, but
not infinitely so.  Those who prefer to hurl abuse and insults at
those of us who do the work of building and sustaining this
organization will not be tolerated forever by the members.  They
are more patient than I, but their patience has limits.

Did my response to fire ant's questions re IW editorial policy
make it onto the list?  My computer net sent a message saying
fido.com was refusing to take postings from me.  Since iww-list
seems to be programmed not to send copies to the poster it is
impossible for me to say whether it was actually delivered.
(Please reply to this to me personally, not to the list)

Jon Bekken jbekken@igc.apc.org

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-> involving labor and in this one in particular.  The Bingo operator wa
-> significant supporter of the Lehigh County DA, and in return received
-> special treatment from the county even before the Bingo workers ever
-> struck and the IWW cam on the scene.  Since we've been involved in th
-> struggle, we have received only static from the county "law enforceme
-> officials because of this cozy relationship (again, not unusual or
-> unexpected).  It seems to me that a county judge is not above reproac
-> and bribery either (I plan to check Judge Wallach's campaign
-> contributions on file for his 1991 election when I get back in town i
-> May, and then we will find out).
.
.
FW D'Amore brings up a good point here that seems to have slipped by
those who have been complaining about my lawyer--we seem to be fighting
not only the bingo bosses but also the local (and perhaps even the
state) "law enforcement" officials here.  As anybody who has read my
reports knows, the bingo hall owner, Joseph Fillman, brings in
somewhere in the neighborhood of half a million a year from his bingo
hall (most of which is apparently unreported).  His former bingo
partner, John havassy, was under investigation by the Pennsylvania
State Organized Criome Commission for a number of years, and eventually
was kicked out of the bingo hall by Lehigh County DA Steinberg for
financial improprieties.  During this probe, the workers at the bingo
hall also presented information that Fillman was carrying out similar
financial funny business, but the DA's office turned a deaf ear and
refused to touch Fillman in any way, leading us to believe that there
is some sort of "relationship" between them.  (A few years ago, when an
airplane was seized at the local airport and confiscated with a cargo
of cocaine, the DA's office turned to--you guessed it--Joe Fillman to
auction off the confiscated plane in exchange for a cut of the money,
an action which is probably illegal under the state's ethics laws).  On
several occasions, the local officials refused to do anything to Joe
Fillman even after repeatedly being informed (and provided with
documentary evidence) that Fillman was violating state gambling laws.
It is our strong suspicion that people in the DA's office in charge of
overseeing local bingo operators are, shall we say, "very friendly"
with Fillman, and have been protecting him for years.  Both myself and
my attorney have contacted the State Attorney General's Office to ask
for an investigation into the possible link between Fillman and the
DA's office--the Attorney General's office has declined to investigate
the matter.  (It may or may not be coincidence that the former PA
Attorney General, Ernie Prerate, has been under investigation for his
own links to organized crime figures--the same names that keep turning
up in connection with Joe Fillman).
.
Both myself and my attorney realized that we almost certainly would NOT
get a fair shake from any local official (and we have not---the DA's
office refused to produce any of the documents we requested concerning
Joe Fillman, and the local judge, Wallitsch, refused to press any of
our demands for documents and ruled against us on every single motion
we made).  Thus, the legal travesty that resulted did not surprise us
(what DID surprise us was the fact that, despite all the legal
obstacles the judge placed in our way, we STILL almost won the case).
It is our opinion that we will NEVER get any sort of impartial hearing
unless we can take the matter to a level that is unreachable by Joe
Fillman (the NLRB, for instance, is stomping all over the bingo
bosses), and we have decided that this means we will have to take
action before a FEDERAL judge (even Fillman doesn't have the dpough to
bribe a Federal judge).  Hence the Branch's decision to pursue, if we
can raise the money, several lawsuits of our own--breach of contract,
wrongful dismissal, fraud, RICO--at the FEDERAL level, where we believe
we have a VERY good chance of winning.  So even if I had OJ Simpson's
defense team working for me for free, we don't believe we would have
gotten a fair hearing anyway--and indeed the judge in this case told my
attorney even before the trial had begun that he thought I was probably
guilty.  Even if Jon Bekken had argued my case personally, it wouldn't
have made a bit of difference.
.
The appeal of this case will be going to the state level, where we
think we at least have a realistic chance of impartiality.  
.
Once again, though, let me be very clear about one thing--the money
that we are asking for from the GEB for the defense fund is NOT, I
repeat NOT, connected in any way, shape or form with the offensive
lawsuits we plan on filing.  The $2000 I need is solely and completely
for the costs of appealing the decision of the kangaroo court I have
already been through.  Once we are off the hook for that, we plan to
raise enough money on our own to finance our own lawsuits (Doug is
willing to do these cases on contingency).  Right now there is simply
no incentive for the bingo hall to cooperate with the union in any
signficant way--all of the workers have been illegally fired for the
third time, and they view me as being "scared shitless" by their SLPPP
suit.  We therefore have decided that we need a credible threat from
the legal front--one that threatens the bingo owners not only with
bankruptcy, but with personal liability and perhaps criminal charges as
well.  Some lawsuits for RICO, etc would accomplish that.  I am sorry
if some of the "anarchist-schmanarchists" out there don't like the fact
that we are using the legal system as a weapon here, but our goal is to
beat this boss, not to be ideologically pure.  But again, I want to
stress repeatedly, so clearly that even Jon Bekken will be able to
understand it--the money we are asking for is NMOT, repeat NOT, going
to be used for any lawsuits of our own, and we have NO PLANS, repeat NO
PLANS, whatsoever to use one single solitary nickel of the union's
money to finance our own lawsuits.
.
Finally, for those who have bitched and moaned about the GEB financing
the legal defense and writing it "blank checks", I also want to point
out that, even if the full $2000 we have asked for is granted, the GEB
would be financing approximately 40%--less than half--of the total
expenses associated with defending this lawsuit.  The vast majority of
the money that has gone into this case has NOT come from GHQ--it has
been provided by private donations and shows of solidarity and support
from fellow workers who have not forgotten the meaning of the word
"solidarity".  The "union" has financed less than half of this legalk
effort.  So perhaps the best way to look at the $2000 we are requesting
would be as "matching funds".
.
So can we please dispense with second-guessing our lawyer and get down
to the business of not allowing the bosses to succeeed in their attack
on an IWW organizer?
.
.
Lenny Flank
X341341
.
.
.
.

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Hi Liz!

You may not remember me, but I've been aware of you for a few years now (in 
fact I have to admit to having I guess what amounts to an intelectual crush on 
you for quite some time).  I've read a lot of what you've written in both the 
queer and anarchist presses and really liked it all.  The only time we 
virtually met was when I was using the internet for the first time at the L&R 
conference in San Diego as part of Andy's computers for revolutionaries 
workshop.  You happened to be online when I was so we siliconicly chatted for 
a bit, so to speak.

Anyway, I just wanted to introduce myself again before I asked you about the 
Queers R Us shindig.  I read your post the same night that I had a rather 
unsavory housemate interview (me and my fellow radical queer housies are 
getting evicted so that the scumlord and increase his rate of profit (in Santa 
Cruz the term "neoliberal" has extra-distasteful significance, as those who 
are in power around here claim to be "progressive").  I went to look at a room 
for rent, and promptly came home and wrote this short story.  Its pretty 
self-explanitory.  I would appreciate it if you would let me know what you 
think, and if it seems like what the Queers R Us folx would like.



"The colors were chosen by a man," said the woman showing me the house.

"I like 'em, they're unusual," I said, glancing again at the lavender trim.

"A straight man!"

"That's even more unusual.  By the way, I'm bi."  I looked my potential 
housemate in her eyes.  "I hope that's not a problem."

It didn't take long.

"No, not as long as you don't resent me.  But I wouldn't think a bisexual 
person would have too much anger.  The lesbian who just moved out of this room 
was real resentful.  I mean she was real in to the 'lesbian thing'.  You know, 
400 pounds of anger..."  She held out her hands to emphasize how fat and 
rediculous the stupid dyke with the juvenilely misplaced anger was.

She prattled on about the laughable lesbian, not noticing that my skinny frame 
was rapidly gaining weight.  Her "I'm not a homophobe, but..." chatter filled 
up her ears, preventing her from hearing the Stonewall rioters screaming 
through my throat. Her tunnel vision blinded her from seeing the lavender 
paint peel off the wall and begin swirling around me, turning into a queer 
tornado right in the middle of her small, overpriced room.  Her polite plastic 
smile continued, oblivious to the sharp fangs of millions of marchers on 
Washington gnashing in my skull, inches from her jugular vein.  The bass of 
the dance music form gay bars all over the country blared from my pores, 
blasting her windows.  But she still didn't hear the glass shattering all 
around her.  The stomping feet of legions of pride marchers reverberated like 
thunder, causing the walls to fall.  The ceiling collapsed on top of the 
rubble, as I shot into the night sky, leaving the woman in the center of her 
ruins surrounded by whispy, pink smoke.


It's a true story.  Let me know what you think, Okay?  Also, I only have 
access to my housie's email until Tax Day (4/15/95) so please respond before 
then, if possible.  Bi the way, my housie's name is Cory and his email address 
is Newt@cruzio.com.  I think.  Since I tried this stuff once in San Diego 
several years ago, I've only been online for the last 3 days.  So, I'm still 
very much a beginer.  If you think its appropriate, perhaps you could forward 
it to the Queers R Us folks.  I don't know how to send a message yet, only 
reply to people who write to Cory (my housie).  If you could let me know how 
all this gagetry works, I would appreciate that too!

Yours in struggle,
Eric  

-- 
===: corin royal drummond :============: newt@cruzio.com :===: herbalist :===
===:                                                     :===: anarchist :===
===: health care necesitates revolutionary social change :===: wanderer  :===

From kevin.brandstatter@bbsrc.ac.uk Thu Apr  6 04:41:02 1995
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IWW Constuitution

Sec4 (a)  Whenever a membership of 25 has been attained in any industry, they
shall be issued an Industrial Union Charter on request.

        (b)  Industrial unions shall be composed of actual wage workers in a
given industry welded together as the particular requirements of said industry
may render necessary.

There is no mention in this section of the constitution relating to job
control.  I have searched the constitution thoroughly for any reference to a
referendum being needed to set up a new industrial union.  There is none. 
There is also no reference to merging/splitting unions either.

Therefore NO referendum is needed.  A couple of years ago the IWW set up IU
690, how was this done.  I have asked before but got no response.

All we have is this rather arcane list  of industrial unions in the back of the
constitution.  This seems to me to be very out of date and leads to the
following points and questions:

Where do bank workers go if they are recruited?  Or civil servants? Insurance
sellers?  People who work in travel agencies?

Why have we got IU 310 and 330.  In the UK people will often switch between the
two types of construction quickly and on big projects can be involved in both
at the same time.  

Why have we got IU 530 and 540?  Again in the UK people switch between the two.
 Our couriers have a problem becasue they may be
bicycle/motorbike/van/lorry/car drivers and be involved in a mix of long and
short distance work.  Why the artificial divide?

Local councils provide and run playgrounds, maintain roads, cemetaries, social
services and a lot else.  We obviously cannot have three industrial unions
covered by one employer (IU630/650/670) !  Come to think of it they also run
many schools.

What about the unemployed.  As I have already said there are people who have
not worked since leaving school, have no job now and no chance of getting a job
in the future, they WANT to get organised!  Our Oxford comrades held a day long
seminar for unemployed agitators last weekend so there is already a nascent
organisation out there ready to move.  What do we do?  Tell all those
unemployed workers that they must join the IU of their last job (if they had
one)  and then DIVIDE them up rather than uniting them?

I did think and still do that the aim of the IWW is to UNITE workers not divide
them!

Perhaps the point is that we have an industrial union structure born in the
early part of this century which might have made a lot of sense then.  Nowadays
however capitalism has been restructured and we have not kept pace.

Should we start again?

I must reiterate that the despatch/courier industry is a separate industry
employing some 10,000 + people in the UK.  We have no Industrial union to cover
these people.

In solidarity 

Kevin Brandstatter
Research Councils IU 620 Group

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-> on my head.  I have been involved in several IWW organizing efforts,
-> and am working with two right now of quite substantial scale.  I.
.
.
Well, Jon, the LV Branch has been directly responsible for singing up
almost 100 members into the IWW over the past four years.  We
etsbalished a GMB here in the Valley, we "spun off" IWW groups in
Lancaster, Reading, Paterson and Philadelphia (the Philadelphia group
went on yo become one of the most active IWW GMBs with several
organizing efforts to its credit.  In addition, the LV IWW was a
nation-wide organizer of the US-Guatemala Labor Education Projects
Phillips Van Heusen Campaign, and now has the honor of holding the ONLY
labor contract between the IWW and any employer recognizing the IWW as
the collective bargaining agent.  Exactly how many members have YOU
signed up, Jon? (And how many members have you driven to quit because
of your Papal Nuncios and your Leninistic bureaucratic haggling)?  How
many IWW groups (containign members other than yourself) have YOU
organized, Jon?  How many GMB's have YOU helped establish, Jon?  When
you say you are "involved" with organizing efforts, Jon, what precisely
do you mean?  Do you mean that you are actually talking with workers
and singing them up, that your are conducting negotiations with real
ive bosses and vbeing atacked by them for it, etc?  Or is your idea of
being "involved" with an organizing campaign merely that of sending
letters containing your Holy Writ to people who didn't ask for it and
probably don't want it?  Why is it we read nothing of your vast
organizing efforts in the GOB or the IWW?  Of what IWW group or Branch
are you a member of right now,  Jon, and does this group have any
members other than yourself (remember the Cortlandt "group", Jon?)
.
Don't attempt to paint yourself as an organizer, Jon.  You wouldn't
even know where to begin.  Just keep babbling your ideological pap and
pronouncing your Papal Nuncios, and stay the hell out of the way of
those of us who ARE doing real organizing work.
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Lenny Flank
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Can anyone help this fw?
Mike


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From gnat@iww.org Wed Apr  5 20:03:53 1995
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 20:01:14 -0700 (PDT)
To: reporters -- FNB <andyrose@netcom.com>, Iain <cllv13@ccsun.strath.ac.uk>,
        Ronan Charpentier <Ronan.Charpentier@lri.fr>,
        Luc Pac <lpaccagn@risc1.gelso.unitn.it>,
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Are there archives of the fnb-l and conf iww.news mailing lists?
Does anybody know where I can get hold of them?
Thanks


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	Greetings from the fire @nts:

	Not much time to email, as we are under a certain amount of 
durress ourselves due to Southern California Edison, the LAPD, and the 
landlord of (De) Center, but I'll hit a couple of points:
	1) To everybody: Please, please try to tone down the bile a 
little bit, I really think that there is a sneaky aspect of email that 
distorts and amplifies emotions ...we should all make a serious effort to 
be diplomatic in our communication here so this medium isn't poisoned for 
the IWW, if we can start a little adult dialogue with an eye toward 
reaching a CONSENSUS, our small, disparate organization could quickly 
become a powerful lever for change.   I reccomend everybody back off from 
the keyboard a little and take a breath: the list-mail lately is really 
discouraging...
	2) to Jon Bekken; no we never recieved any reply to that post

	3) Re: the FBI.  I dont think Bekken is an FBI agent either, but 
I think the idea that there aint no feds in the IWW because its too small 
is ludicrous: any kind of look at history will tell you that they have 
plenty of extra agents and esp. paid informants to spread around into 
every radical group anywhere, no matter how marginal.  I have had some 
experience with this first hand when we had a New Orleans Police Dept 
officer infiltrate a group of about a dozen of my friends who organized 
punk rock shows and parties, evidently to set people up for making 
graffitti and committing other minor crimes. dont discount the 
possibility: its sickening and terrifying, but chances are that there are 
feds in the IWW.  
	4) Having said that, paranoia and suspicion wont help anything either!
	5) To Deke Nihilson: if youre out there, send us an email, we'd 
like to pass something to you...
	6) To Philly GMB: Tsunami looks great, we have been passing it 
out at (De) Center and it may have helped me talk some folks into joining 
finally
	7) Viva IWW, viva (De) Centralization, viva Schmanarchy!


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From: Jon Bekken <jbekken@igc.apc.org>
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Subject: answers to queries

Fellow Workers,

The FW from fire ant posted some questions a week-and-a-half ago
about the Industrial Worker.  Sorry to take so long to get back,
but I've been too busy getting out the May Industrial Worker (now
in press), looking for a job, looking for short-term cash to keep
from getting thrown out of my room onto the street, and working on
our two organizing drives (the education workers effort, and the
local office supply plant we've been working for 6 months now--if
anyone out there is hungry for work, we could use another person
inside the plant.  Unfortunately it's a base 72-hour work week
with pressure for overtime on top of that.  Pay runs about $550 a
week gross, but you wouldn't have much time left in which to spend
it).  So I haven't been able to read most of the posts on the net,
let alone respond to them...

I'm not really familiar with this phenomena of "a whole lot of
militant independent, radical unions... springing up all over the
country..."  I've seen a little bit on some such efforts (and
wrote up the only one I knew anything substantive about for the
Industrial Worker a couple years back), and have come into contact
with some ersatz "unions" (notably the "National Labor Union," a
Stalinist cult in the most literal sense of both words which can
talk a passable syndicalist line to people who don't know them and
don't notice the glassy eyes of the sleep-deprived comrades).  To
the extent that these independent unions are a real phenomena,
they would appear to be a local one.  There is no way the
newspaper, the General Executive Board or the office could
possible be expected to learn about them or maintain contact with
them -- it would need to be done by fellow workers in the area who
are the only ones in a position to learn of their existence, to
find them, and to establish meaningful relations (practical
solidarity).  The sentiment that inspires this question (that we
should be working with rebel workers in independent unions and
elsewhere) is an excellent one, but the way that it is posed
represents the extent to which people have become dependent on the
center for resources, "leadership," etc., instead of acting for
themselves.  The FWs in fire ant, for example, are relatively
close to the area where the drywall hangers (who I'm told are now
in the Carpenters and largely defeated) struck a couple of years
ago.  Rather than asking why the IWW isn't in contact with these
FWs, it would make much more sense for them to establish contact,
develop working relations, and then share what they learn with the
rest of us through the Industrial Worker, etc.

As for the proposal to fund the Zapatistas, I can only speak for
myself.  I voted against it (as did most members) because (a) I
don't see the IWW as a funding agency, (b) I don't believe money
makes a revolution, (c) there is real reason to doubt whether the
funds collected for the Zapatistas ever make it down to them, (d)
I am not convinced that the Zapatistas are fighting for the same
thing we are, (e) I don't see how the modest funds the IWW could
contribute could make much of a contribution...  As for why there
is not more news of the Zapatistas in the Industrial Worker, when
the rebellion broke out the paper devoted quite a bit of ink to
it.  More recently we ran brief articles touching on economic
aspects of the rebellion, and two lengthy reviews of books  about
the movement.  As for "the latest news" about the Zapatistas, I
don't have access to any more information than any of you (indeed,
those with seemingly unlimited net time probably have access to a
great deal more material than I do).  I don't have a reliable
source of information about what's going on down there, and so
couldn't do more than publish synopses of the same material
already available in the capitalist press and such. This does not
seem to me an effective use of the very limited space available in
the Worker's columns.

Quite possibly some local IWW groups are doing solidarity work
with the Zapatistas.  If so they haven't sent me information about
it, and so I can't publish it.

The Libertarian Labor Review is, of course, an entirely separate
publication (and I can not agree that it is "Bekken's"
publication; it is very much a collaborative effort).  Coming out
twice a year (and temporarily a bit slower than that), it is in
even less of a position to offer breaking news than the Industrial
Worker.  Nor does it have any better access to information than I
do in my capacity as IW editor.  Certainly we could publish an
editorial hailing the rising, but I don't see much point to
sounding off about events that I know very little about.  What I
do know is that I believe that revolution must be made by the
people themselves, not by armed groups acting in their name, and
that a genuine social revolution is less an issue of government
structure and political "leaders" than of people organizing at the
base to take control of their workplaces -- of the economic base
of their daily existence.  It seems fairly clear to me that the
Zapatistas hold to a sharply different vision, that they are
essentially armed reformists.

The FW also asks what I (and others) do support.  That should be
fairly clear through the pages of the Worker and through my other
activity.  I support revolutionary industrial unionism, and am
working to build Educational Workers Industrial Union as a viable
presence in the industry in which I work (when I am employed).  I
support local and global labor solidarity, and devote extensive
space in the IW to reporting on significant labor struggles and
giving information on how FWs can lend support.  I support direct
action and IWW organization on the job, and report every instance
of same that I can get information on.  I support education and
agitation, and try to make the Industrial Worker a useful tool for
reaching out to the hundreds of thousands of rebel workers who are
not already IWW members.  I even support most of the projects I am
condemned for opposing.  I have, for existence, given extensive
space to the Bingo workers struggle and the legal harassment of FW
Flank (and donated personally to his defense fund when I had a
job), and recently pushed through a GEB motion to allocate
additional IWW funds for his legal defense even though we have
never received an accounting for past expenditures or even a
detailed proposal as to what the funds are needed for.  Those
funds will be released as soon as FW Flank provides a bill to be
paid, or receipts establishing how the union's previous
allocations were expended.  If additional funds are required, that
will be considered once we have the necessary information.

Other posts (I don't have time to look for them right now) asked
about IW editorial policy and about possible economies.

Money first.  Since I took on editing the paper, I have reduced
the average issue from 16 to 12 pages, and have trimmed the press
run from 6 to 4 thousand copies (although we are printing 5,000
copies of a 16-page May issue because of special orders, the Labor
Notes conference, and the press of copy and greeting ads -- there
are still a few days left to get in special May issue bundle
orders, by the way, before we put the issue in the mail and can no
longer supply copies at the special 10 cent per copy IWW member
rate).  We save $96 an issue from the 12 page size (plus a little
bit on postage), and $120 an issue from the cut in press run
(though it would certainly pay the organization to build the paid
circulation up to the point where we needed those extra 2,000
copies.  I have just negotiated with the landlord to cut the
office rent by $25 a month when the Literature Department moves to
Ypsilanti at the end of next month and we can vacate our second
room.  I have pressed for renewal notices to be sent out to
expired subscribers, for Branches to be reminded to pay their
bundle bills, and for contributions to the sustaining fund;
thereby helping the income side.  And I am working on sample copy
and other promotion efforts that will hopefully help boost paid
circulation.  The most effective way to improve the IW income
situation, however, is for local groups and branches to take more
of a hand in boosting the paper.  For a couple of hours a month,
you could distribute the paper to local bookstores which would
carry the paper on a consignment basis (paying 50 or 60 cents for
each copy sold).  This helps bring the paper to the attention of
new potential readers (boosting IW subscriptions, literature sales
and membership), be effective propaganda, and might help put
people in touch with your local group as well.

My editorial policy should be fairly clear from the newspaper
itself.  On an organizational level, of course, editorial control
rests with the General Executive Board.  If they don't like the
way I run the paper they can remove me as (unpaid) editor or order
me to do it differently (which is probably much the same thing).
The GEB has from time to time replaced editors for organizational
and policy reasons, such as in 1984 when the paper was removed
from a Washington, DC-based editorial collective and returned to
Chicago because of dissatisfaction with the general political tone
of the paper, its appearance, and plans to skip an issue and
relocate (about which the GEB first learned in the newspaper's
columns, if memory serves).  But as a matter of general practice,
the GEB does not tend to intercede very often.

Which means that I make the decisions.  I am constrained by the
information available to me (there is a great deal more happening
in the IWW and in the labor world than I ever learn of -- even our
incoming exchanges largely vanished under past administrations;
the IW sends out a few hundred exchange copies each month, and
receives back perhaps 15-20 papers; this is a problem I have been
working on for some months now), by the visual resources available
to me (I am in the process of eliminating the magazine-style
covers, partly because I need the space and partly because I
simply don't have enough strong images coming in to make effective
use of such display), and of course by my time (being unemployed I
can put in more hours than most volunteer editors could, but I
have many other projects on the table).  But I still have far more
material coming in than could possibly fit in the paper, even if I
went back to 16-pages.  I have a superabundance of long articles
-- travelogues by FWs writing of their observations while visiting
different parts of the world, reports on local social crises
(usually with little attempt to relate these to broader concerns),
and the occasional theoretical piece long enough to be a book
chapter.  What I am always in need of are short and mid-length
pieces on local IWW activities, on job actions where workers won
better conditions or shut down an unsafe machine or such by
intelligent use of direct action, on health and safety, and such.

I have made a deliberate attempt to broaden the coverage of Canada
and Britain so as to make the paper more relevant to our members
in those countries.  When I hear through the grapevine of
struggles in which Wobblies have been active, I encourage them to
get the information to the paper.  The May issue, for example,
reports on a quickie strike in Idaho in which several of our
members were involved.  Usually people cooperate with these
requests, though not always (you can find one story I was told
there was no time to write [on the resolution of the End Up
strike] in Tsunami), but there are doubtless other incidents which
ought to be in the paper which I never hear of.  I try to get in
news of international labor struggles and of instances of
international labor solidarity, though this is an area
particularly hard hit by the collapse of our exchanges.

I am trying to produce a newspaper of general appeal to rebel
workers.  The Industrial Worker is not aimed only (or even
primarily) at people who are already in the IWW.  Rather it
attempts to speak to our fellow workers who are looking for a way
out of the present morass engulfing the labor movement -- and to
offer a specifically Wobbly perspective.  It aims to inform, to
mobilize, to encourage.  Ultimately the extent to which the paper
succeeds is not only a question of its content, of course.  It is
at least as dependent on the extent to which it is distributed,
and the extent to which our members take up the paper as part of
their local work.

				Jon Bekken, editor, Industrial
				Worker

 





From gnat@iww.org Fri Apr  7 17:54:17 1995
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To: Mitch Rice <mitch@bluemarble.net>
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On Fri, 7 Apr 1995, Mitch Rice wrote:
> What is your mail program?  Is it unix based?  Pine is a program that often
> comes with unix that is mime capable, for example. There is a line in the 
> header that labeled "attachments:" and it allows me to send binary files 
> as as attachment to my email.  

I'm using pine.  I assume MIME works fine, but nobody's ever MIME'd me
anything yet, so I couldn't guarantee it.  I don't have graphics
capability on the iww.Borg console, so I'll be working blind to try to
incorporate other people's graphics or whatever, but by all means MIME
away! 

> I noticed that you have me linked when I view your html, but there is no
> link visible when I use lynx.  Could you put "Hoosier Slim's IWW Homepage"
> with your other links listed on your main page? 

You're now linked as the "Indiana IWW index."  I like to avoid geek jargon
like "home pages" if I can get away with it.  I changed the index to
_Tsunami_ so looking at it would be more like skimming a real paper; if
you want to see it it's still at http://iww.org/labor/tsunami/

Also, the link I'm using for the history stuff is
http://iww.org/labor/history/iww.html#iww
but I made sure yours stillworks. 

I'm running out of space on the iww.Borg home page, but I don't really
have enough material to make multiple indexes all look interesting.  I'd
especially like to get calendars of upcoming events type documents online
so Our Untapped Potential Audience will have a reason to come back and
look at our stuff more than once.  (Or once, even.)

There's an actual industrial strike going on in SF this week.  The Safeway
supermarket chain workers walked out, and two other chains went on strike
in support.  Food Not Bombs is bringing food and coffee to the picketers,
which seems pretty strange right out in front of a grocery store. 


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On Sat, 8 Apr 1995, Mitch Rice wrote:
> Don't know, nothing has arrived yet. Fred mentioned that I would be put on
> a mailing list when he got my application. Is this the same?  Should I have
> received an info sheet? 

No, it's an online mailing list.  As far as I know Mr. Chase only deals
with the physical postal stuff.  iww.news is administered automatically by
some server in the igc.apc.org world.  Deke forwarded me something about
it before; I'll send it to you.  There's one email address for getting on
and off it and another one for posting to it, and then you get stuff
automatically as email.

I was wrong about the Safeway strike.  The Safeway workers were the only 
ones who struck voluntarily; the workers at Lucky's and the other chain 
were _locked_out_ by their bosses as a reverse-solidarity thing.


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	I'm working on cleaning out the IWW@igc.apc.org file.  I found a 3/22
request from marcin.kosielecki.@fuw.edu.pl for information on a protest which
occurred during a February visit to Chile by Lech Walesa.  Apparently some
mothers of the disappeared took over the Polish embassy.  Kosielecki says there
has been a blackout of news on the incident in Poland.  I don't remembers seeing
anything about it.  Can anyone help him out?

			Fred 


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	And on 3/20 n.braumann@tu-bs.de asked for references on the history of
MayDay as well as information about the way in which it is celebrated around the
world.  Any help?   


From dmwillms@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu Sun Apr  9 12:21:30 1995
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hey love, it's been, what, 12 days since i left sf...wow...twelve days
that joel has been off heroin...don't really know how to reconcile those
two realities, but they've been all intertwined in a way that i haven't
experienced with any other human in my life...he's got a few friends
already, foodstamps, we're working on a place to live, rent assistance,
and something called 'rational recovery for substance abuse', billed as
'an alternative to AA that focuses on challenging irrational thoughts and
addictive voice recognition'...not sure what that means but it happens
tuesday so maybe he, or we, will go check it out...day by day...i am 
learning a lot...much love, dust



From gnat@iww.org Sun Apr  9 18:29:48 1995
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They love us.  I can't wait to tell Kevin and Aaron.

http://iww.org/
http://www.bluemarble.net/~mitch/
http://www.webcom.com/~peace/PEACTREE/stuff/stuff/HOMEPAGE.html

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: 09 Apr 95 19:22:10 EDT
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To: "INTERNET:gnat@iww.org" <gnat@iww.org>
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	Great BART leaflets!  The response might make a good article for the
industrial worker.

			Fred Chase	 


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Subject: Re: IWW and syndicalism
Date:    09-Apr-95 at 22:35   
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Thank you for the reply, Fred.  I understand your position.  I'm still thinking about joining.   
Also I wanted to tell you that a number of MD anarchists (myself included) have put out a  
call for a May Day rally in DC followed by a demonstration at the HQ of the World Bank  
and the IMF.  May 1st (obviously), monday, at 10:00am in Lafayette Park (right across  
from the White House).  We'll have a fairly short rally and then jaunt over to the IMF/WB  
HQ and hold a percussion protest hopefully right as IMF/WB officials go on lunch break.   
They probably never leave the building so we can confront them, but that's no excuse for  
inaction.  We're doing this in solidarity w/ the WSA and Neither East Nor West call for  
anarchists to reassert their May Day heritage and for demonstrations vs the Bretton Woods  
twins for their 50th anniversary.  If you could alert any IWW chapters  (or any anarchists  
you know for that matter) who might be interested in participating, I'd be eternally grateful  
(they are "formally" invited ).  Also, if any Wob would be willing, it'd be nice to have some  
speakers for the rally who could talk about May Day, the current labor situation, etc.
	Thanx again.  And another thank you for the issue of the Industrial Worker you're  
mailing me.

						solidarity,
						Eric
 





From gnat@iww.org Mon Apr 10 02:31:54 1995
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        "X342404 (peterj)" <peterj@fletcher.iww.org>,
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One of the more recent FRB flyers is now on the Web at
http://iww.org/justice/airwaves/

http://iww.org/
http://www.bluemarble.net/~mitch/


From deke@wps.com Mon Apr 10 12:47:04 1995
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On 9 Apr 1995, Fred Chase wrote:

> 	And on 3/20 n.braumann@tu-bs.de asked for references on the history of
> MayDay as well as information about the way in which it is celebrated around the
> world.  Any help?   
> 
> 
I've got something I save from last year.  I'll send it to the fw.
Mike

Don't just criticize; get yourself organized in the One Big Union.
Join the Wobblies! e-mail the IWW:  iww@igc.apc.org









From gnat@iww.org Mon Apr 10 17:54:32 1995
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To: Ken Cheetham <cheetham@igc.apc.org>
cc: deke@wps.com
Subject: Re: A Bay Area Progressive Calendar
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On Mon, 10 Apr 1995, Ken Cheetham wrote:
> (I'll probably start truncating this email calendar so that it
> contains only the next month or so of events, to reduce email
> volume, unless people object.)

I'd like to receive listings for as far in advance as you have
information.  I'm also interested in archiving previous lists if you want
to send them. 

If there's some other way to retrieve this information (e.g. an ftp site)
I can get it directly, but I'd need the address. 

http://iww.org/
http://www.bluemarble.net/~mitch/

From deke@wps.com Mon Apr 10 22:28:41 1995
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Hey Y'all-

Well OK, so I just got back into town, and much the better for it all! 

It may take me a bit of time to get back up to speed, as I have a week of 
e-mail, in addition to various other virtual-neeeedz to attend to. But, 
I'm here, and it is thus possible to shanghai me once more...

In Solidarity Refreshed,
Deke Motif Nihilson X341697

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Viva Fireant!
It's nice to get such good posts now and again, it's what keeps me in 
the IWW.  BTW, feel free to contribute to Tsunami, for this issue or next.
Solidarity,
josie, x341890

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Thanks for replies about Industrial Union dues.

It appears the most direct -- though not the only --  route to
establishing an IU is to organize a job shop with 10 or more
members.  That would give us the job shop,  plus an IU Branch.
Then there is needed a petition with 25 members in that industry,
asking GHQ for a charter --- and also needed is a written IU
ByLaws before we are legally allowed to organize workers on an
industrial basis.

Then before your IU organizing machine is ready to roll,  you have
to figure out how much the members should pay for it;  and you
have to figure out how you are going to maintain communications
among the IU membership.

So we have a formula:

1. job shop
2. ByLaws
3. Petition of 25
4. Assessments
5. E-lists,  GOB/IW, ...

Having an IUB (10 or more members in the same industry in the same
area) is not a necessity, but  seems like it would help act as a
center of IU activity.

As to dues,  the constitution flip flops like a wounded
politician.

Article VIII, Sec.2(a).  says ``the Industrial Union shall have
autonomous right to set their own initiation fees, dues...''
Then it reverses itself to say that dues cannot be raised above
the IWW rate;  then it turns back around,  says the IUs ``shall
charge sufficient dues to meet their obligations.''

We can't charge more than IWW dues,  and there's no way we're
allowed to charge less.  So, IU's do NOT have  ``autonomous right
to set their own initiation fees, dues...''  in fact there is no
way they can charge any dues at all.

Other members have told me that the IU may be able to negotiate a
portion of the regular IWW dues;  IUB's  may be able to negotiate
the right to keep a percentage,  for example.

But with the cost of doing business these days,  the IWW can't
afford much of a kickback.

Fortunately,  IUs are  allowed to charge  ``assessments''.  Okay.
Why doesn't the constitution just say it:  IU's have to live on
assessments.   Note that while the IU can't have dues,  it can
have monthly assessments...
---

In this photocopy constitution, I can't find the part where it
says IU has to have one job shop,  or anything about IU bylaws.  I
know I've seen the part about the job shop before but now I can't
find it.

[Who has the updated constitution on computer file?  Fred?  Let's
put this in the Spunk archive  chopped into convenient size files
(send to Mike Ballard).]

I'd like to read it,  because this one  part I do have reads
nice:

``Article I, Sec.4(a).  Whenever a membership of 25 has been
attained in any industry,  they shall be issued an Industrial
Union charter upon request.''

Isn't that fine?  Its got that hammer sound.  Whenever 25... upon
request.  Period.  Wob's your uncle.

{It seems to me that job shop clause ought to be right there,  but
it isn't on my photocopy.}

Anyway,  the constitution goes on to say that IUs  shall weld
themselves together as practical and set up any kind of structure
or make rules as they see fit,  as long as they don't ``void rank
and file control.''  But,  none of this  can conflict with any
part of the IWW constitution.

I'm a little dense on that point too.  It seems like any variation
at all would be a conflict, like if the IU decided to call its
officers the  General Executive Council, or decided to have 9
instead of 7,   that would conflict with the IWW constitution
definition of GEB.

Whatever.  I recall this Art.I-Sec.4(a)   formerly required  100
members for an IU;  it may have been myself that initiated the
motion to reduce it to 25 about 3 or 4 years ago.  I was hoping
that would enable IUs to spring up all over the IWW.

I was involved in the effort with entertainers IU630.  We had a
couple of newsletters,  then those who responded  were kept in
touch by FW Jim Barclay,  with a homemade letter for about a year.
This form of communication, by mail,  is difficult for the
purposes of initial discussions.  First it is necessary for the
members to come to an understanding of what they need to do,
before they can proceed to talk about doing it.

That work with the entertainers will pay off eventually,  but we
faded out and lost contact when FW Jim became unable to continue
the mailings,  and lost the momentum.  It was not just FW Jim but
several of us who had to withdraw from the action around the same
time, so these things happen.

It would have helped if we had a more clear idea of how to go
about establishing the IUs.  This question of finance is just one
of several questions that we tossed around.  It may be good for
the IWW in the long term to have such an undefined policy,
allowing each IU to set its own methods of funding.  But it would
help if we had a model of how to do it.

Like we know how to start up a GMB -- right?  I always knew that
the requirement was ten members in a local area, signing a
petition.  That's pretty simple.  But then once the GOB ran this
old reprinted flyer or article -- it encouraged members to start
up branches.  Go out and sign up ten members,  send in their dues
and you're on your way,  was the tone of the old document.  It
made it seem easier than I had thought,  and so I did exactly that
-- we were always hovering around 8 or 9,  sometimes we would get
up to 12 but always someone else would move away.

Having that charter has not, in itself resulted in organizing  of
course, but it has helped to maintain continuity through slow
times,  by the mere fact of the bank account.  Now that we are
making some new effort,  the GMB has a few dollars we can use for
leaflets and IW bundles and such.

So we need to light a fire under this IU process in a similar way.
Spell it out for the members.   The charter is not the whole thing
--  implied in the charter is that you have a core group and IU
officers,  a group with organizing on their minds.  But we do need
that charter in order to talk straight to the workers from an
industrial perspective,  and to function as a unit.

As I mentioned regarding the Entertainers,  communication is the
whole key to putting together useful networks for any purpose.
Quite simply,  there were enough IU630 members keen to be
involved,  we had theatre groups and bands and several well known
entertainers and people experienced on the union end of the music
business.  Barclay is a Wob who talks on the phone with Frank
Zappa (rip) and Pete Seeger,  and then there's Utah Phillips who
knows everybody,  at least they know him.  If we could have
communicated more easily, that campaign would stil be rolling.  A
very simple logistic problem of communications-technology,  its
cost and the work involved.

(IU630 still has around $100 sitting around,  so all it needs is a
new activist committed to the project of communicating,  to get
going again. hint hint)

Sustaining a paper mail newsletter is expensive and labor
intensive.  Now that we have electronic capabilities,  we can
overcome a large part of this barrier.  For the necessary paper
communication,  I think IUs could piggyback on the GOB and IW with
its business and news,  for a start.

Thanks for taking the time to read these comments.  I hope you
will consider starting a General Organizing Committee for the
industry of your choice.

--CLMurray/Ottawa
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The oft revered and oft maligned IWW Constitution
As revised through January 1, 1995

PREAMBLE AND CONSTITUTION
of the 
INDUSTRIAL WORKERS OF THE WORLD


PREAMBLE

     The working class and the employing class have nothing in common.
There can be no peace so long as hunger and want are found among millions
of the working people and the few, who make up the employing class, have all
the good things of life.
     Between these two classes a struggle must go on until the workers of
the world organize as a class, take possession of the means of production,
abolish the wage system, and live in harmony with the Earth.
     We find that the centering of the management of industries into fewer
and fewer hands makes the trade unions unable to cope with the ever-
growing power of the employing class. The trade unions foster a state of
affairs which allows one set of workers to be pitted against another set
of workers in the same industry, thereby helping defeat one another in wage
wars. Moreover, the trade unions aid the employing class to mislead the
workers into the belief that the working class have interests in common with
their employers.
     These conditions can be changed and the interest of the working class
upheld only by an organization formed in such a way that all its members in
any one industry, or in all industries if necessary, cease work whenever a
strike or lockout is on in any department thereof, thus making an injury to
one an injury to all.
     Instead of the conservative motto, "A fair day's wage for a fair day's
work," we must inscribe on our banner the revolutionary watchword,
"Abolition of the wage system."
     It is the historic mission of the working class to do away with
capitalism. The army of production must be organized, not only for everyday
struggle with capitalists, but also to carry on production when capitalism
shall have been overthrown. By organizing industrially we are forming the
structure of the new society within the shell of the old.
     Knowing, therefore, that such an organization is absolutely necessary
for emancipation, we unite under the following constitution:

ARTICLE I
Name and Structure

     Section 1.  This organization shall be known as THE INDUSTRIAL WORKERS
OF THE WORLD.
     Sec. 2.  The Industrial Workers of the World shall be composed of
actual wage workers brought together in an organization embodying Job
Branches, Industrial Union Branches, General Membership Branches,
Industrial Unions, and Industrial Departments.

Departments

     Sec. 3(a).  An Industrial Department shall be composed of Industrial
Unions in closely kindred industries appropriate for representation in the
departmental administration, and assigned thereto by the General Executive
Board of the Industrial Workers of the World.
     (b).  An Industrial Department shall consist of two or more Industrial
Unions aggregating a membership of not less than 20,000 members. The
Departments shall have supervision over the affairs of the Industrial
Unions composing same, provided that all matters concerning the entire
membership of the IWW shall be settled by a referendum.
     (c).  The Departments shall be designated as follows:
          1 - Department of Agriculture, Land, Fisheries, and Water
                   Products.
          2 - Department of Mining.
          3 - Department of Construction.
          4 - Department of Manufacturing and General Production.
          5 - Department of Transportation and Communication.
          6 - Department of Public Service.

Industrial Unions

     Sec. 4(a).  Whenever a membership of 25 has been attained in any
industry, they shall be issued an Industrial Union charter upon request. 
     (b).  Industrial Unions shall be composed of actual wage workers in a
given industry welded together as the particular requirements of said
industry may render necessary.
     Sec. 5.  Component parts of the IWW may set up such coordinating
bodies as they wish, provided their cost shall be defrayed by the sections
setting them up, and further provided that they shall not void rank and
file control.
     Sec. 6.  No legislation conflicting with the constitution of the IWW
shall be passed by any subordinate body.
     Sec. 7.  All charters of local bodies shall be issued by the GEB. In
industries where the IWW includes a functioning Industrial Union, charters
shall be issued only on recommendation of its General Organizing Committee.
In other industries it shall be permissible for local General Membership
Branches to organize and administer local bodies of workers in any industry
until they apply for and are granted Industrial Union Branch charters. In
localities where there is one or more Industrial Union Branch(es) and a
General Membership Branch, it shall be locally optional either to set up a
delegate council to handle matters of common concern (such as educational,
defense, and social activities) or to leave these to the General Membership
Branch, with the sharing of financial obligations to be arranged between
them. Where no General Membership Branch is chartered, it is expected of all
members of the IWW to arrange for occasional meetings at which any and all
members, whether they are members of Industrial Union Branches or not, may
meet together to plan local joint activities. Charters shall be issued to
GMBs or to IUBs only if the GEB finds it feasible for their members to meet
together. More than one GMB in the same city or area shall be chartered
only when the GEB finds language, transportation, or other practical
reasons warrant it.

ARTICLE II
Membership

     Section 1(a).  It is the aim of the IWW to build world-wide working-
class solidarity. No wage or salaried worker shall be excluded because of
race, sex, nationality, creed, color or sexual preference. Membership is open
only to wage or salaried workers except as provided in section 1b.
Membership can be denied to those wage and salaried workers whose
employment is incompatible with the aims of this union. 
     (b).  No unemployed or retired worker, no working class student,
apprentice, homemaker, or prisoner shall be excluded from membership on the
grounds that s/he is not currently receiving wages. Such workers may take
membership in the Industrial Union for the industry in which they last
worked, or for which they are now training, or at which they work part-
time, or in the case of students and homemakers in Educational Workers I.U.
620 or Household Service Workers I.U. 680 respectively as may seem most
practical, provided that no person under 18 is initiated on any basis other
than industrial employment as a wage worker. This provision shall not deny
to any Industrial Union or Industrial Union Branch the right to limit vote
on strictly industrial matters to those actively engaged in their industry.
     Workers employed in co-operatives democratically run by their
employees are welcome to membership. Members who become temporarily self-
employed may retain their membership or apply for withdrawal cards, which
are issuable also to those who must withdraw when they become employers.
     (c).  No member of the Industrial Workers of the World shall be an
officer of a trade or craft union or political party.
     Branches may allow IWW members to become officers of trade or craft
unions as long as these exceptions are reported to the General
Administration and no IWW member receives significant pay (more than dues
rebate and expenses) as a result of being an officer or official in a union
that does not call for abolition of the wage system.
     Exceptions may be made by the branches to allow unpaid officers of
political parties to become members.
     Sec. 2.  All applicants shall agree to abide by the Constitution and
regulations of the IWW and diligently study its principles and make
themselves acquainted with its purpose. This obligation shall be printed
on the application blank.

Job Branches

     Sec. 3.  Whenever there are five or more members on the job, they
shall constitute themselves a shop or a job branch, and elect a shop
committee and a job delegate to attend to urgent matters between business
meetings. No member should serve permanently on a committee. At each
meeting a new committee should be elected. All members should take their
turns at serving on committees.

Quorums

     Sec. 4(a).  Not less than five members, not including the paid Branch
Secretary, shall constitute a quorum for the transaction of business.
     (b).  No paid official of any part of the Industrial Workers of the World
shall be permitted to vote in Branch meetings.

ARTICLE III
General Officers

     Section 1.  The General Administration shall consist of the General
Secretary-Treasurer and the General Executive Board.
     Sec. 2(a).  The term of office shall be for 1 year and the same shall
commence on January 1. Officials, after having served their first term of
office shall be eligible for two more terms only,  except as specified in
Section 3 (c) and (d).
     (b).  The General Executive Board shall set the wages of all general
organization employees and organizers.

ELECTIONS
General Administration

     Sec. 3(a).  The General Secretary-Treasurer shall be a member for 3
years, and 18 months in continuous good standing immediately prior to
nomination. The General Executive Board shall consist of seven members, all
of whom have been members for 18 months, and 12 months in continuous good
standing, immediately prior to nomination.
     In the event that no nominee for General Secretary-Treasurer meeting
the 3 year membership requirement can be found, then the 3 year
requirement shall be reduced to one of 2 years membership with 18 months
in continuous good standing prior to nomination.
     A person elected to office must remain in continuous good standing
until assuming that office or forfeit the right to hold the office.
     (b).  Nominations for General Secretary-Treasurer and members of the
General Executive Board shall be made at the General Assembly of the IWW
or through the mail with nominations closed by the adjournment of the
General Assembly. In either event, election shall be by general referendum
ballot as provided for in Article IX, Sec. 2. The ballot shall include space
for write-in candidates. Either a verbal acceptance on the floor of the
Assembly or a written acceptance addressed to the General Secretary-
Treasurer must be received from each candidate whose name is placed on the
ballot. No member shall be a candidate for or be permitted to hold more than
one General Administration office at a time.
     (c).  The three candidates receiving the highest number of nominations
for General Secretary-Treasurer shall have their names placed on the
ballot. Members who have served three or more consecutive terms as General
Secretary-Treasurer shall not have their names placed on the ballot,
except in the event that three qualified nominees cannot otherwise be
secured. When this is the case, the names of the nominees who have served
three or more consecutive terms may be placed on the ballot, but the ballot
shall clearly state the number of terms in succession previously served by
such a candidate. All write-in candidates who meet the requirements of
Article III, Section 3(a) are considered qualified nominees. The one receiving
the highest number of votes on referendum being elected.
     (d).  The 21 candidates receiving the highest number of nominations for
General Executive Board member shall have their names placed on the ballot.
Members who have served three or more consecutive terms on the General
Executive Board shall not have their names placed on the ballot, except in
the event that 15 qualified nominees cannot otherwise be secured. When this
is the case, the names of the nominees who have served three or more
consecutive terms may be placed on the ballot, but the ballot shall clearly
state the number of terms in succession previously served by such a
nominee. A write-in candidate must receive a minimum number of votes equal
to 5% of the IWW members in good standing. All write-in candidates who
receive the minimum number of votes and meet the requirements of Article
III, Section 3(a), are considered qualified nominees. The seven nominees
receiving the highest number of votes on the referendum shall constitute
the General Executive Board.
     (e).  The General Executive Board Chairperson shall be the alternate
to the General Secretary-Treasurer. Alternates to the General Executive
Board shall be the remaining nominees in the order of votes received.
     In the event of a vacancy on the General Executive Board, with all
duly elected members or alternates already serving or being unavailable,
the General Secretary and the GEB Chairperson shall appoint a board member
until another shall be elected by referendum.
     (f).  No official of the General Administration shall be permitted to
hold other office in, or become a paid employee of any Industrial Union of
the Industrial Workers of the World.

Duties of the General Secretary-Treasurer

     Sec. 4(a).  The duties of the General Secretary-Treasurer shall be to
take charge of all books, papers and effects of the office. S/he shall
conduct the correspondence pertaining to his/her office. S/he shall be the
custodian of the seal of the organization, and shall attach same to all
official documents over his/her official signature. S/he shall furnish the
committee on credentials, at each General Assembly, a statement of the
financial standing of each Industrial Union. S/he shall have a voice, but no
vote, in the governing bodies of the organization.
     The General Secretary-Treasurer shall close his or her accounts for
the fiscal year on the last day of June. S/he shall make a monthly report
to the General Executive Board and the general membership. S/he shall also
make a complete itemized report of financial and other affairs of his or her
office to each General Assembly.
     S/he shall prepare and sign all charters issued by the General
Executive Board. S/he shall receive all moneys for charters from Industrial
Unions and Industrial Departments. S/he shall receipt for same, care for
and deposit all moneys as instructed by the General Executive Board, in
some solvent bank or banks, which shall be drawn out only to pay
indebtedness arising out of due conduct of the business of the
organization, and then only if bills have first been duly presented by the
creditors when a check shall be drawn by him/her in payment thereof.
     S/he shall employ such assistants as are necessary to conduct the
affairs of his/her office, remuneration for such employees to be fixed by
the General Executive Board.
     (b).  S/he shall publish a monthly General Organization Bulletin
containing his/her monthly report as well as that of the General Executive
Board; together with official notices, referendum ballots, monthly and
annual financial reports, and other organization business. The Bulletin shall
also include letters from IWW members on current referenda and elections,
organizing campaigns, and other union business. The GST shall publish all
submissions received by the published monthly deadline, deleting only
epithets and/or personal attacks against other members (except that
members shall have complete freedom to criticize the conduct of union
officials without censorship subject to the provisions of By-Laws Article
III Section 6a).

Duties of the General Executive Board

     Sec. 5(a).  The General Executive Board shall elect its own chairperson
from its own number.
     The General Executive Board shall have general supervision over all
affairs of the organization between conventions, and shall watch vigilantly
over the interests throughout its jurisdiction. It shall be assisted by the
officers and members of all organizations subordinate to the Industrial
Workers of the World. It shall appoint such organizers as the conditions of
the organization may justify.
     (b).  The General Executive Board shall not appoint or cause to be
appointed any delegate or organizer against the protest of, and without
first notifying, the General Organizing Committee of the Industrial Union
which has jurisdiction in the territory in which the delegate or organizer
is to operate.
     All organizers so appointed shall at all times work under the
instruction of the General Executive Board. All organizers and General
Executive Board members, while in the employ of the Industrial Workers of
the World, shall report to the Chairperson of the General Executive Board
in writing, on blanks provided for that purpose, at least once each week.
     (c).  The General Executive Board shall have full power to issue
charters to Industrial Departments, Industrial Unions, Branches, and
Industrial District Councils.
     (d).  The General Executive Board shall have full power and authority
over all IWW publications and guide their policy.
     (e).  The members of the General Executive Board shall have power to
visit any subordinate body of the IWW and have full authority to examine and
audit all accounts of such body; and also to enforce the use of the uniform
system of bookkeeping as adopted by the Assembly of the IWW from time to
time.
     (f).  The General Executive Board shall meet on the call of the
Chairperson or majority vote of the General Executive Board.
     (g).  All matters pertaining to organization shall be settled by the
entire General Executive Board by mail or wire when absent from
headquarters. It shall take a majority vote to settle any question.
     (h).  The General Executive Board shall have power to appoint a
Secretary of the General Defense Committee whenever they deem it
necessary.
     (i).  The General Executive Board shall issue a monthly report of their
activities.

Charges Against General Officers

     Sec. 7(a).  Charges against any of the General Officers shall be filed
in writing with the G.E.B. or the General Assembly, at the option of the
person filing charges. Also, in the case where a member of the Union who is
not a General Officer is accused of exercising the authority of the GEB or
GST without their approval, such charges shall be filed in writing with the
GEB or the General Assembly, at the option of the person filing charges.
     If the charges are filed before the G.E.B., they shall at once have a
copy of the charges sent to the accused, together with the notice of the
date of the hearing of the charges. Charges filed before the General
Assembly must be sent to the General Secretary at least 30 days prior to
the date of the convening of the assembly.
     On receipt of the charges the General Secretary will forward a copy
of the same to the accused and notice to appear at the convention for
trial.
     (b).  Any decision of the G.E.B. on charges tried by them shall be
subject to appeal to the next General Assembly and from the General
Assembly to the general membership. The decision of the General Assembly
on charges can be appealed to the general membership. This appeal must be
filed with the General Administration within ninety (90) days from the
adjournment of the General Assembly.
     The cost of appealing to the general membership shall be borne by the
party taking the appeal. If the vote on appeal results in the favor of the
party taking the appeal then the General Organization shall refund the cost
of the appeal.

ARTICLE IV
Clearing House

     Section 1(a).  The General Headquarters of the Industrial Workers of
the World shall function as a Clearing House that will automatically settle
all debts between Industrial Unions and General Headquarters.
     (b).  All credentials authorizing members to initiate members or to
collect dues shall be issued by the General Secretary-Treasurer. He or she
shall issue such credentials on his or her discretion, on the recommendation
of the local or industrial union officers, and must do so on the instruction
of the General Executive Board. Those so credentialed shall have been
members for 6 months, except that newly organized groups may elect one of
their members to serve in that capacity. All such credentials shall bear a
distinguishing number, and shall empower the bearer to initiate members or
collect dues in all industries.
     (c).  All job delegates or others bearing such credentials shall record
all fees, dues, assessments, etc., collected on the forms provided by the
General Secretary and shall identify receipt both on the page of the dues
book and on top of the stamps with their credential number and date, and
shall report at least monthly to the General Secretary by submitting this
record together with all signed applications for membership, and all fees
and dues money received; provided, any Industrial Union or Industrial Union
Branch, or General Membership Branch, through which the delegate operates
may require that this report be transmitted through it, to record the
information in its own files and to retain such portion of moneys as this
constitution and pertinent by-laws permit.
     (d).  The Chairperson of the General Executive Board shall countersign
all checks issued by the General Secretary-Treasurer. At the same time as
the General Executive Board selects its chair, it shall also select a non-
board member to be designated check co-signer. The co-signer will have the
same eligibility requirements as a Board member.
     (e).  Job delegates working out of the general office shall remit all of
initiation fees and dues, whether for employed or unemployed members.
Secretaries of chartered branches shall remit one-half of same to the
general office and retain the other half in the branch treasury.
     (f).  The General Secretary-Treasurer shall be the custodian of the
funds of a General Membership or Industrial Union Branch only upon its
request, but s/he shall be the custodian of the funds of each Industrial
Union, except operating funds for which the organizers or officers are, in
accordance with the by-laws, held responsible. The General Administration
cannot use the funds so entrusted to it without the consent of the
Industrial Unions or other bodies owning such a fund, so long as these
bodies continue.
     (g).  Supplies issued delegates and branch secretaries on behalf of
Industrial Unions shall be charged to the Industrial Union.
     (h).  Reports with remittance for dues, etc., paid during the month
shall be sent to the General Secretary not later than the 10th day of the
following month. Should any branch or Industrial Union fail to do so, further
supplies to it shall be withheld until these reports are received.

ARTICLE V
Duties of Branch Secretaries and Delegates

     Section 1.  Except as provided otherwise in Branch or Industrial Union
by-laws, branch secretaries shall be the responsible custodians of all
branch records, funds and supplies; shall issue such supplies to delegates
in their branch and receive reports from them; shall maintain such records
of these transactions as by-laws or organizing programs require; shall
report all such business to the General Secretary-Treasurer at least
monthly; shall also transmit to the General Secretary copies of all minutes
of meetings and of his or her own monthly financial report to his or her
branch; shall endeavor to keep all members in good standing and aware of all
referenda. S/he shall also report at least monthly to the General Secretary
on the activities and prospects of his or her branch.

ARTICLE VI
Assemblies

     Section 1(a).  Each year the IWW shall hold a General Assembly of the
Union, the date and venue of the next Assembly to be set by the Assembly
in session before its adjournment.
     (b).  The General Assembly of the IWW shall not remain in session over
10 days. Prior to the General Assembly the General Executive Board shall
issue an agenda to the delegates to the General Assembly specifying the
time limit on each question. All resolutions, wherever possible, shall be in
the hands of the G.E.B. 10 days before the opening of the General Assembly.
Copies of all resolutions shall be furnished to all delegates.
     Sec. 2.  The General Assembly of the IWW is the legislative body of the
union and has the power to expel any member for violation of the IWW
constitution, by-laws, or principles. The Assembly's enactments are of legal
force, provided they are approved by general referendum. Referenda to
approve assembly motions shall be issued according to the provisions of
Article IX, sec. 2.

Representation

     Sec. 3(a).  Representation at the General Assembly of the IWW shall be
mass membership and delegate on the basis of one member one vote.
     (b).  Delegates can have more than one vote only on issues on which
they carry written instructions from the member or body that instructed
them.
     (c).  When two or more delegates are representing an Industrial Union
in the Assembly, the vote of such Industrial Union shall be equally divided
between the delegates.
     (d).  The expenses of delegates to the General Assembly, including
their mileage, shall be borne by the body they represent.

Credentials

     Sec. 4(a).  On or before July 1 of each year the General Secretary-
Treasurer shall send to the Chairperson of the General Organization
Committee of each Industrial Union credentials in duplicate for the number
of delegates and alternates they are entitled to in the convention.
     (b).  The Chairperson of the General Organization Committee of the
Industrial Union shall properly fill out the blank credentials received from
the General Secretary-Treasurer and return one copy to the General Office
not later than August 15. The other copy shall be presented by the delegate
to the Committee on Credentials when the convention assembles.

Temporary Session

     Sec. 5.  The General Executive Board shall draw up a list of delegates
against whom no contest has been filed at the General Office. The General
Secretary-Treasurer shall call the convention to order and read the
aforesaid list. The delegates on the said list shall proceed to form a
temporary organization by electing a temporary Chairperson and a Committee
on Credentials.

Delegates' Eligibility

     Sec. 6(a).  Delegates to the General Assembly from the Industrial
Unions must be members of the IWW for 1 year and in continuous good
standing for 60 days immediately prior to nomination.
     (b).  The general administration officials shall be delegates at large,
with voice but no vote. All paid officials and employees must be off the
payroll 90 days prior to the convening of the General Assembly to become
eligible as delegates. Any member who has not been on the payroll 10
consecutive days in the 3 months immediately prior to the convening of the
Assembly, shall be eligible as a delegate. No delegate shall cast more than
one vote when voting on the seating of a contested delegate or delegates.
No delegate shall have more than one vote on the expulsion of a member.
     (c).  Delegates to the General Assembly shall not serve for two
consecutive terms.

Records of Delegates

     (d).  The Clearing House shall forward a complete record of each
delegate elected to the General Assembly of the IWW to the Chairperson of
the G.E.B., and to the Secretary-Treasurer in order to facilitate the work
of the Credentials Committee of the General Assembly.

Joint Delegates

     Sec. 7.  Two or more unions, with a total membership of 500 or less,
may jointly send a delegate to the Assembly, and the vote of said delegate
shall be based on the representation hereinbefore provided for.

Indebtedness

     Sec. 8.  Industrial Unions that are indebted to the official organs or
the publishing bureau controlled by the organization, having sufficient
funds to pay their indebtedness, shall not be entitled to representation
in the General Assembly.

Auditing Committee

     Sec. 9.  A general membership meeting shall be advertised and called
in Chicago 30 days prior to the General Assembly for the purpose of
electing an Auditing Committee from the floor of said meeting, to audit
headquarters' books and supplies. Any member who has not been out of office
for 90 days will not be eligible for Auditing Committee.

Resolutions

     Sec. 10.  Resolutions for the General Assembly shall be acted upon by
their Industrial Union convention, and if the Industrial Union has no
convention, then the branches acting on same must send them to their
Industrial Union G.E.B. or G.O.C. Chairperson to be segregated; and each
resolution shall be on a separate sheet of paper and duplicated. No
resolution sent in by an individual shall be considered by the General
Assembly.

ARTICLE VII

Label

     Section 1.  There shall be a Universal Label for the entire
organization. It shall be of a crimson color and always the same in design.
The use of the Universal Label shall never be delegated to employers, but
shall be vested entirely in our organization. Except on stickers, circulars,
and literature proclaiming the merits of the Industrial Workers of the
World, and emanating from the General Offices of the Industrial Workers of
the World, the Universal Label shall be printed only as evidence of work
done by IWW members.
     When the label is so printed it shall be done by the authority of our
organization, without the intervention of any employer.
     Whenever the Universal Label is placed upon a commodity as evidence
of work done by Industrial Workers, it shall be accompanied by an inscription
underneath the label stating what the work is that Industrial Workers have
done, giving the name of Industrial Department to which they belong and the
number or numbers of their unions; and the Universal Label shall never be
printed as evidence of work done without this inscription.

Seal

     Sec. 2.  Each Union and Branch shall be provided with a seal by the
General Secretary-Treasurer, which shall bear the number of the Union, and
all official papers from the union or branch must bear an imprint of this
seal, and none will be legal without this impression.

ARTICLE VIII

Revenue

     Section 1.  The revenue of the organization shall be derived as
follows: Charter fees from Industrial Departments shall be $25.00 and for
Industrial Unions $10.00. Industrial Union Branches shall pay $2.00 for seal
and charter.

Initiation Fees & Dues

     Sec. 2(a).  The Industrial Unions shall have autonomous right to set
their own initiation fees, dues and assessments, other than General
Organizational assessments. It is the policy of the IWW to put no financial
barrier to prevent any worker from joining. Accordingly, initiations shall
not exceed $12.00 nor monthly dues exceed $12.00. All Industrial Unions shall
charge sufficient dues to meet their obligations. No part of the initiation
fee or dues mentioned above shall be used as a sick or death benefit, but
shall be held in the treasury as a general fund to defray the legitimate
expenses.
     (b).  The G.E.B. is authorized at its discretion to waive initiation fee
or reduce it to a nominal fee when incorporating previously organized
workers or in organizing campaigns among especially distressed workers. The
G.E.B. is further authorized to waive dues payments in the event of a strike
or lockout.
     (c).  All dues stamps for all Industrial Unions must be of the same
design without the price printed on them.
     (d).  A page shall be provided in the credentials fully stating the
initiating fee and the dues charged by every Industrial Union for the
information of delegates and branch secretaries.
     (e).  For members in North America the initiation fee shall be $5 for
workers earning less than $800 per month, $9 for workers earning between
$800 and $1700 per month, and $12 for workers earning more than $1700 per
month provided that 50 cents shall be used to defray the cost of providing
each member with a copy of the One Big Union pamphlet. Dues shall be $5 per
month for workers earning less than $800 per month, $9 per month for
workers earning between $800 and $1700 per month, and $12 per month for
workers earning more than $1700 per month. Sub-minimum dues of $3 per
month may be paid by members in poor economic circumstances. Dues of
members in the subminimum category who belong to organized branches shall
be apportioned as follows: $2 to the General Administration, $1 to the
branch.
     In Great Britain, initiation shall be 50 pence and dues shall be 50
pence per month.
     (f).  For areas outside of North America (including Guam), the British
GOC, and the Scandinavian Organizing Committee, the initiation fee shall be
$1.00, and monthly dues $1.00 (rounded off to the nearest convenient amount
in local currency), until such time as General Organizing Committees with
authority to set their own dues rates are constituted in those areas.
     (g).  The General Executive Board is authorized at its discretion to
allow 50% of the dues and initiations collected to be retained by those
involved in an organizing campaign provided the delegates involved report
on the progress of such campaigns to the General Executive Board monthly,
and account for all money received and spent.
     (h).  Service fees collected in shops where the IWW has a contract that
includes an agency shop clause shall be split between the branch and the
General Administration on a 50-50 basis.

ARTICLE IX
Amendments, Etc.

     Section 1(a).  All proposed amendments to the Constitution and By-
Laws shall clearly state the article, section and paragraph to which the
amendment applies. New articles and sections shall be so stated. Each
clause to be amended shall be on a separate sheet.

Conflicting Parts

     (b).  All parts of the Constitution conflicting with amendments ratified
by a referendum vote are hereby declared null and void.

Referendums

     Sec. 2(a).  A referendum on any organization question, including
constitutional amendments, may be initiated by the General Executive Board,
or by a petition of 15 members in good standing.
     (b).  Referendums shall take place three times yearly, as close as
possible to the following schedule: Notification of the referendums shall be
made to the members in the first G.O.B. on or after September 30, January
31, and May 31, respectively. Notification on a measure may not be given
unless the motion or petition is printed in a prior or concurrent G.O.B.
Ballots will be mailed first class on or as soon as possible after November
1, March 1, and July 1, provided that at least one G.O.B. has appeared since
notification. Ballots will be due within 30 days from the date of mailing.
Ballots to members outside the U.S. will be sent via air mail. Election of
officers and resolutions of the General Assembly that must be sustained by
referendum will be included with the November ballot. If for any reason a
properly initiated referendum question misses the notification deadline or
the appropriate ballot it will automatically be carried over to the next
scheduled referendum.
     (d).  The returns of the referendum shall remain in General
Headquarters in sealed envelopes until the ballot committee meets. The
ballot committee shall meet immediately on expiration of time set for return
of ballots. The General Secretary-Treasurer shall notify Industrial Union
or body initiating referendum of date set for count of ballots.
     (e).  The ballot committee to count the votes on the referendum shall
be composed as follows: Three members in continuous good standing for 1
year prior to their election on committee shall be elected by the Industrial
Unions in the city in which Headquarters is located. In reporting through
the monthly bulletin the returns of referendums and elections, the General
Secretary-Treasurer shall give the names of the ballot committee together
with their card numbers and the Industrial Union of which they are members.
     (f).  The Industrial Union or body initiating a referendum shall pay the
expenses of its own delegates on ballot committee unless the referendum is
carried, in which event the expenses shall be borne by the general
organization.
     (g).  Referendum returns from any Industrial Union cannot exceed its
paid up membership for the 3 months prior to the vote on the referendum in
question.
     (h).  Ballots shall be prepared in such a way as to assure complete
secrecy in voting and shall be in duplicate form to allow the member to
retain a record of his or her vote. To ensure complete secrecy, all IWW
referenda will use the two-envelope system. The ballot will be enclosed in
the inner envelope and will contain no information identifying the ballot
with the member who sent it. All information pertaining to the member's name
and standing will be enclosed in the outer envelope. Once the ballot is
approved by the ballot committee, the innner envelope will remain sealed and
be secured separately from the member's identifying information. All ballots
must be numbered. Ballots not numbered, not sealed, or from members in bad
standing will not be considered valid ballots. Any members whose ballots
have been invalidated shall be notified by first-class mail within seven (7)
days of the decision by the Ballot Committee, explaining the reason his or
her ballot was invalidated.
     (i).  All constitutional changes ratified by a general referendum ballot
shall take effect January 1, unless otherwise decided by the General
Assembly.
     (j).  Any part of this General constitution may be suspended or set
aside for 1 year if so approved by a general referendum, initiated as
provided for in Section 2(a) of this Article.

Recall

     Section 3.  The General Administration Officials shall be subject to
recall upon a referendum, initiated as provided for in Section 2(a), Article
IX. They shall continue in office during the recall referendum.

ARTICLE X
Transfers, Craft Cards, Etc.

     Section 1.  There shall be a free interchange of cards between all
organizations subordinate to the Industrial Workers of the World, and any
Industrial Union shall accept, in lieu of initiation fee, the paid up
membership card of any recognized labor union. 
     Sec. 2(a).  Members of an Industrial Union who cease work in that
industry and are working in another industry for 30 days or more, must
transfer to the proper Industrial Union. No member is allowed to transfer
unless actually working in the industry s/he wishes to transfer to.
     (b).  Any member of chartered unions when working in another Industrial
Union over 30 days and who fails to transfer shall be considered a member
in bad standing.
     Sec. 3.  Members in arrears in dues and assessments cannot transfer
from one Industrial Union to another. Delinquent delegates cannot transfer.
     Sec. 4(a).  All delegates upon transferring a member from one
Industrial Union to another shall immediately send the record of transfer
to the Clearing House.
     (b).  Any member of the IWW who has attended any I.U. Conference or
convention, with voice and vote 90 days prior to the convening of the
General Assembly, at which action was taken on resolutions to be presented
to the General Assembly, or at which delegates to the General Assembly
were elected, shall not have voice and vote at any other I.U. Convention or
Conference prior to the General Assembly.

Withdrawal of Cards

     Sec. 5.  On application, members who cease to be wage workers shall
send their cards to the Secretary-Treasurer of the Clearing House who
shall enter date of withdrawal on transfer page of membership book,
together with his or her official signature, and return same to the
withdrawing member.
     Sec. 6.  Any member in continuous good standing for 10 years, and
found, after proper investigation by the Branch of the Industrial Union to
which s/he belongs, to be incapacitated for life, the Industrial Union shall
issue him/her a special membership card carrying the privilege of having a
voice under "Good and Welfare," but with no voice on the business of the
Branch.

ARTICLE XI
Charters

     Section 1.  The number of signers required on an application for a
Charter shall not be less than 10.
     Sec. 2.  The charter of a union or branch shall be surrendered when
membership falls below 5.
     Sec. 3.  Upon a union surrendering its charter, the General Executive
Board shall appoint a representative of the Industrial Workers of the World
to take charge of the charter, supplies and property and funds of said
union. Members or officers of said union refusing to deliver charter,
supplies, property or funds of union surrendering its charter to the
authorized representatives of the Industrial Workers of the World shall
be expelled from the organization.

ARTICLE XII
Unemployed members

     Section 1.  Except where Industrial Unions provide otherwise, any
member whose income for the preceding month has been less than $800.00
shall be entitled to pay dues for that month at the minimum rate of three
dollars per month, this to include students working part-time. If a member
pays more than one month in advance and later the member's income changes
to above $800, that member must pay the difference in dues with respect to
the new income beginning with the month that it changed. Special minimum-
income stamps shall be issued by the Clearing House, and shall be entered
separately in all accounts.
     Sec. 2.  Members with minimum income dues stamps are entitled to full
rights and privileges; representation at Assemblies shall in no way
discriminate between the two types of dues; except as otherwise provided
those paying minimum income dues shall be required to pay all assessments
due from employed members.

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GENERAL BY-LAWS
ARTICLE I

     Section 1.  Unions shall have the power to enact such laws for their
government as they may deem necessary, providing they do not conflict with
the Constitution and By-Laws of the Industrial Workers of the World.
     Sec. 2.  A majority vote cast shall rule in the general organization
and its subordinate parts.

ARTICLE II
Defense

     Section 1.  The General Defense Committee shall be composed of the
members of the G.E.B. and Secretary-Treasurer, and they shall be empowered
to hire any help necessary. All local defense committees shall submit
monthly financial reports to the General Defense Committee.
     Sec. 2.  General Defense Locals may be organized within counties,
cities, municipal subdivisions, college campuses, or wherever a sufficient
community of interest prevails. Membership in General Defense Locals shall
be open to non-members of the Industrial Workers of the World who
subscribe to the principles of the Industrial Workers of the World and of
the General Defense Committee. A General Defense Committee Local shall
consist of five or more members in good standing.
     Sec. 3.  No expelled member of the IWW shall be eligible to membership
in any of the General Defense Committee Locals.
     Sec. 4.  The General Defense Committee shall be known as the General
Defense Committee of the IWW and shall be so stated on membership cards,
literature and letterheads.
     Sec. 5.  Initiation fees for membership in the General Defense
Committee shall be $1.00 and dues shall be $1.00 per quarter. Members of
General Defense Locals shall have the same rights of transfer and
withdrawal as specified in Article X of the Constitution of the Industrial
Workers of the World.
     Sec. 6.  General Defense Committee Locals may retain 50% of dues and
initiations collected for defense work.
     Sec. 7.  The membership of the General Defense Committee may
requisition funds from the central General Defense Committee treasury by
means of a general referendum of the entire General Defense Committee
membership, said referendum to be called by a petition of 15 GDC members in
good standing; or by a chartered local making official petition; and balloting
to be conducted by the office of the General Secretary-Treasurer. Funds
also may be requisitioned by a majority of the chartered GDC locals.
     Sec. 8.  The General Executive Board shall conduct an election of the
GDC membership - including ex-officio members and dues-paying GDC members
- to select a chairperson to serve a one-year term commencing on January
first.
     Sec. 9.  There shall be three levels of GDC support. The first level
shall entail publicity in the Industrial Worker and other IWW publications.
GEB approval is not required for such support. The second level entails
statements of support, fund-raising, organized support activity, and the
issuance of literature. Such support requires approval of either the GEB
or Assembly. The third level of support, where the GDC acts as primary
defense committee, is restricted to members of the IWW and GDC. Assembly
or GEB approval is required for such support.


ARTICLE III
Charges

     Section 1.  Whenever charges are filed by a member of one Industrial
Union against a member of the same Industrial Union, they shall be in
writing, setting forth the facts, together with the names of witnesses and
their statements regarding the offenses with which the accused member is
charged.
     The charges shall be read in the Industrial Union Branch at the next
regular meeting, at which time five members shall be elected from the floor
of the meeting to act as a charges committee. The accuser and the accused
shall have no voice in the election of the charges committee, nor can either
of them act on same.
     The committee shall furnish the accused with a true copy of the
charges either by registered mail or by personal delivery in the presence
of a witness. The charges committee shall set a date for a hearing and shall
collect all evidence both for and against the accused, and at the end of
their hearing they shall submit their findings together with the charges and
evidence to the next regular meeting of the branch, at which time the
membership will accept or reject their findings.
     If the findings are accepted by both parties the decision shall at once
be sent by registered mail to the headquarters of the Industrial Union. If
either party so desires, an appeal may be taken within 30 days to the
Convention of the Industrial Union, and to the general membership of the
Industrial Union for referendum.
     Sec. 2.  Whenever charges are filed against a member of another
Industrial Union the member preferring the charges shall present same to
the branch of which the accused is a member if there is a branch in the city
or industrial district where the alleged offense was committed. If charges
are preferred against a member of another Industrial Union for an alleged
offense in a city or industrial district where there is no branch of the
Industrial Union of which the accused is a member then the charges may be
tried by any IWW branch in the city, provided, however, if there are two or
more IWW branches in the city the trial branch shall not be the one to which
the accused belongs.
     Sec. 3.  It shall be optional for each Industrial Union to make by-
laws permitting the filing of charges direct with the Industrial Union
Convention.
     Sec. 4.  Appeal may be taken from the Industrial Union Convention to
the General Assembly by either side.
     Sec. 5(a).  No member's card shall be taken up without the action of a
regular business meeting, conference or convention.
     (b).  No publicity shall be given in our papers on any suspension until
same has been acted upon by the I.U. Convention or General Assembly. The
I.U. Convention or General Assembly shall then order whatever publicity is
necessary on the case.
     Sec. 6(a).  The circulation of accusations by one member against
another, unless substantiated by charges filed according to these
provisions, shall be grounds for expulsion of member circulating such
matters.
     (b).  No member of the IWW shall be suspended for more than 90 days.
All charges must be finally disposed of, and members so charged either
expelled or reinstated within that time.
     Sec. 7.  When the member charged does not belong to an IUB or GMB that
can provide for his/her trial, the GEB shall provide arrangements for a fair
trial, and shall seek agreement between the charged and charging parties on
these arrangements.

ARTICLE IV
Employees

     Section 1.  All employees hired by the IWW shall be members of the IWW
when possible.

Expelled Members

     Sec. 2.  The general organization and Industrial Unions shall be
prohibited from employing expelled members until such members have been
reinstated and placed in good standing by the union or unions from which
they were expelled.

ARTICLE V
Delinquency

     Section 1.  Monthly dues are payable the first of each month. Members
whose dues are 60 days in arrears (60 days from the first of the month
when dues were payable), shall be in bad standing and shall not be entitled
to any rights or benefits in the IWW until such dues have been paid. After
6 months in bad standing members cannot take part in business meetings.
     Sec. 2.  Delinquent delegates are members in bad standing. Delinquency
of delegates shall be defined by the Industrial Union to which the delegate
belongs.
     Sec. 3.  All G.O.C. travelling delegates and branch secretaries when
issuing credentials shall mark in delegate's membership card the number of
the credentials issued with the date,and by whom issued; and when a
delegate's account is cleared, the Clearing House shall issue her or him a
clearance stamp to be affixed on his or her membership card.

ARTICLE VI
Supplies, Etc.

     All subordinate organizations of the Industrial Workers of the World
must procure and use such supplies as dues books, dues stamps, official
buttons, labels and badges from the General Secretary Treasurer. All such
supplies are to be of a uniform design.

                           ARTICLE VII
                     Speakers and Organizers

     Sec. 1. No members of the IWW shall represent the organization before
a body of wage earners without first having been authorized by the General
Executive Board or a subordinate part of the IWW.

     Sec. 2.  No organizer for the IWW while on the platform for this
organization shall advocate any political party platform.

ARTICLE VIII
Intoxication

Repealed


ARTICLE IX
Declinations

     Any member who accepts nomination for an official position and
declines after his or her name has been placed on the ballot, shall not be
eligible for any office for 2 years, unless good cause is given such as
sickness or being in jail.

ARTICLE X

     No publication that is entirely controlled by the IWW shall accept paid
advertisement in any form.

ARTICLE XI

     Section 1.  Each Industrial Union shall have power to make rules
relating to agreements between its job branches and the employers.
     Sec. 2.  No agreement made by any component part of the IWW shall
provide for a checkoff of union dues by the employer, or obligate the
members of the union to do work that would aid in breaking any strike.

ARTICLE XII

     No clause of the General By-Laws in the General Constitution shall be
considered valid unless carried by referendum vote and inserted in the
General Constitution and By-Laws. 

ARTICLE XIII

     No officer or member of the Union may seek a private interview with
an employer in the event of a strike or during contract negotiations.

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SELECTED RESOLUTIONS
Political Parties & Discipline

     Whereas, the primary object of the Industrial Workers of the World is
to unite the workers on the industrial battlefield; and 
     Whereas, Organization in any sense implies discipline through the
subordination of parts to the whole and of the individual member to the
body of which he or she is a part; therefore be it
     Resolved, That to the end of promoting industrial unity and of
securing necessary discipline within the organization, the IWW refuses all
alliances, direct and indirect, with existing political parties or anti-
political sects, and disclaims responsibility for any individual opinion or
act which may be at variance with the purposes herein expressed.

Cooperatives

     Resolved: That non-wage earners in producer cooperatives may join
the Industrial Workers of the world, provided that those co-ops are not
exploitative and do not undermine wages.

Organizing Campaigns

     Resolved: That the following policy be adopted on organizing campaigns:
     1. Delegates attached to General Membership Branches shall obtain the
approval of the Branch before beginning an organizing campaign. The Branch
will be held responsible for seeing that the campaign is carried through as
effectively as possible. 
     2. Delegates not attached to a GMB shall obtain the approval of the
appropriate regional General Organizing Committee, or the General Executive
Board, before beginning an organizing campaign. They will be expected to: (a)
Have knowledge of the job and industry in which they plan to organize; (b) Be
able to guarantee, beyond a reasonable doubt, that they will be able to
remain in the area until the campaign is concluded; (c) Have a workable plan
for financing the expenses of the campaign; (d) Report regularly to the
Regional Organizing Committee or the GEB on the progress of the campaign.
                                                                  
                     FUNDING FOR ORGANIZING

     1(a). Any IWW Branch, Job Shop, Group, or Delegate may request funds
for organizing by submitting a clearly written proposal to the
Clearinghouse. This proposal shall include, but will not necessarily be
limited to, the following information; person or group requesting funds;
budget request (including stipends, phone costs, supplies, travel, etc.). This
budget request shall also include a proposed monthly disbursement schedule;
description of organizing drive; timetable for organizing drive.
     (b). The Clearinghouse, upon receipt of the proposal, will send copies
of the proposal to General Executive Board members immediately.
     (c). The GEB shall have a maximum of 45 days (from the postmark on the
proposal) to vote on the proposal. If the person(s) submitting the proposal
requests a phone vote for expediency, the GEB must vote by phone. A
proposal can only be accepted by a majority vote of the GEB.
     2(a). Immediately after a proposal is approved, funds will be
distributed on a monthly basis to the delegate, group, job shop, or branch
requesting the funds.
     (b). Monthly reports shall be sent to the Clearinghouse explaining the
progress of the organizing drive. These reports shall include a financial
report and appropriate receipts. Funds will not be disbursed without
monthly reports.
     (c). Funds can be suspended at any time by a majority vote of the GEB.
If this occurs, the balance of funds not yet spent must be returned to the
Clearinghouse promptly.
     3. Any GEB decision can be appealed to the general membership via a
referendum (see Article IX of the Constitution).

                          TRANSLATIONS

     The GST may authorize the expenditure of organizing funds necessary
to translate and reproduce IWW literature for organizing purposes, into any
language requested by a GMB, Job Shop, IWW Group, or Delegate.

                           RESOLUTIONS

     Resolutions to be voted upon at General Assembly must be presented
to the membership through the GOB at least two months before the Assembly
convenes to allow proxy votes to be gathered on the issues involved.
Resolutions submitted to the Assembly that have not been published in the
GOB as described above must only be voted on if the convention body
determines through majority vote that their content is of such an
emergency nature that it would effect the operation of the union.

                          EXPENDITURES

     Expenditures exceeding $5,000 can be authorized only by member
referendum.

                                
                    LIST OF INDUSTRIAL UNIONS
To Be Used for the Information of Delegates in Initiating New Members

DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND FISHERIES  No. 100
     Agricultural workers IU 110: All workers on farms, ranches, orchards,
and plantations.
     Lumber Workers IU 120:  All workers in forests. All workers engaged in
logging operations, in saw and shingle mills, and in preparing wood for fuel
and manufacturing purposes. Bark and sap collection.
     Fishery Workers IU 130:  All workers in fishing pursuits on oceans,
lakes and rivers. Oyster and clam bed keepers. Workers engaged in collecting
pearls, corals, and sponges. Workers in fish hatcheries.
     Floriculture Workers IU 140:  All workers in nurseries, flower gardens,
green- and hot-houses. Cultivation of silk. Distribution of floral products.
    
DEPARTMENT OF MINING AND MINERALS No. 200
     Metal Mine Workers IU 210:  All workers engaged in mining all metals and
minerals. All workers in refineries, smelters, mills, and other reduction
works. All workers in stone and other quarries.
     Coal Mine Workers IU 220:   All workers engaged in coal mining and the
production of coke and briquets.
     Oil Workers IU 230:   All workers in oil and gas fields, refineries and
processing facilities. All workers engaged in distribution of the products.

DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL CONSTRUCTION No. 300
     General Construction Workers IU 310:  All workers engaged in
construction of docks, railroads, highways, streets, bridges, sewers,
subways, tunnels, canals, viaducts, irrigation canals and pipelines.
     Ship Builders IU 320: All workers engaged in building and repairing
ships, boats, and small harbor craft. All drydock workers.
     Building construction Workers IU 330:  All workers engaged in erection
and construction of houses and buildings, and in delivery of materials.

DEPARTMENT OF MANUFACTURE AND GENERAL PRODUCTION No. 400
     Textile and Clothing Workers IU 410: All workers engaged in producing
cloth from natural or synthetic fibers. All workers engaged in manufacturing
wearing apparel.
     Furniture Workers IU 420:  All workers in planing mills and furniture
factories. All workers engaged in producing wooden containers.
     Chemical Workers IU 430:  all workers engaged in producing drugs,
paint, rubber, explosives, medicines, chemicals, plastics, synthetic fibers,
and other chemically-based products.
     Metal and Machinery Workers IU 440: All workers in blast furnaces,
steel mills, aluminum plants, etc. All workers engaged in producing
agricultural machinery, cars, locomotives, engines, automobiles, bicycles,
air craft, and various instruments. Tool makers, jewellery and watchmakers.
     Printing and Publishing House Workers IU 450:  All workers engaged in
producing printed matter.
     Foodstuff Workers IU 460:   All workers except agricultural and
fishery workers, engaged in producing and processing food, beverages, and
tobacco products.
     Leather Workers IU 470:  All workers in tanneries and factories
producing leather goods, luggage, boots, and shoes.
     Glass and Pottery Workers IU 480:  All workers producing glass,
chinaware, pottery, tile and bricks.
     Pulp and Paper Mill workers IU 490:  All workers in pulp and paper mills
engaged in making pulp, paper and paper containers.

DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND COMMUNICATION No. 500
     Marine Transport Workers IU 510:   All workers engaged in marine
transportation. All workers on docks and in terminals.
     Railroad Workers IU 520:  All workers engaged in long distance railway
freight and passenger transportation. All workers in locomotive, car, and
repair shops. All workers in and around passenger and freight terminals.
     Motor Transport Workers IU 530:  All workers engaged in hauling
freight and passengers by truck, bus, and cab. All workers in and around
motor freight sheds, and bus passenger stations.
     Municipal Transportation Workers IU 540:  All workers engaged in
municipal, short distance transportation service.
     Air Transport Workers IU 550:  All workers employed in air service and
maintenance.
     Communications Workers IU 560:  All workers engaged in telephone,
telegraph, wireless, radio and television operation.
     Data Storage and Retrieval Workers IU 570:  All workers engaged in
electronic communication.

DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SERVICE No. 600
     Health Service Workers IU 610:  All workers employed in hospitals and
health restoration services.
     Educational Workers Iu 620:  All workers in educational institutions.
     Recreational Workers IU 630:  All workers in playgrounds and places
of amusement and recreation. All professional entertainers.
     Restaurant, Hotel, and Building Service Workers IU 640:  All workers
in facilities for public accommodation. All building service workers.
     Park and Highway Maintenance Workers IU 650:  All workers in
cemeteries and all workers engaged in street and highway maintenance.
     General Distribution workers IU 660: All workers in general
distribution facilities, wholesale and retail. 
     Public Service Workers IU 670:  All workers engaged in public supply
services and other institutional services.
     Household Service Workers IU 680:  All workers engaged in performing
services in the home.
     Sex Trade Workers IU 690: All workers employed as dancers and models,
telephone sex workers, actors and other workers who use sexuality as the
primary tool of their trade (excluding all agents of the boss class able to
hire or fire, or possessing equivalent coercive or punitive power).
                                                               

                        ORDER OF BUSINESS
1. Opening and Calling Meeting to Order.
2. Reading of Minutes.
3. Reading of Applications for Membership.
4. Reports of committees, Standing and Special.
5. Reports of Delegates and Officers.
6. Reading of communications and Bills.
7. Monthly Report of financial Secretary, including reading of receipts and
expenses.
8. Unfinished Business.
9. New Business.
10. Nominations, Elections, and Installations.
11. Good and Welfare.
12. Adjournment.









 


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Hi Todd & Beth & whoever!

Cory & I are getting evicted on Saturday (4/15/95) due to our landlord's 
desire to maximize his profit.  Even he thinks we didn't do anything wrong.  
He stops short of revolutionary solutions to the problem, however.  Neither 
one of us has found a place to live yet.  I haven't delt with my mail 
situation yet.  You could email at the SC IWW address, I guess: sciww@ucsc.edu
Maybe you could send my smail there to: SC IWW PO Box 534 Santa Cruz CA 95061 
Attn. Eric.

You never told me if you got my last post.  Maybe that means that you didn't 
ever see what I wrote about the coffeehouse, along with my editing of the 
survey responses.  I don't have time to rewrite it, or even know how to 
retrieve it.  Oh well.

I'll let you know when I find a roof.

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SW's and FW's,
	Since the IWW home page was brought on-line a few weeks ago, we 
have had hundreds of information requests from dozens of different 
systems.  Still, we know that many of you have yet to see what the World 
Wide Web is like, and may not even be able to access it from your own 
account so we have created a public access site to get you there.
	This is our trial run, so we know there will be the odd problem 
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possible.  To try it out do the following:
	1) telnet from your home account to iww.org (the command telnet 
iww.org will often work on your home system, if not contact your support 
person, almost all accounts have telnet capability)
	2) at the login prompt enter the username: lynx (this is the 
software we use to browse the web)
	3) at the password prompt enter the password: Wobbly.
	You should then get the IWW home page.  On the page some words 
will be highlighted.  These words are links to more information.  You 
should use the up and down arrow keys to move from one highlighted word 
to another, and the right arrow key to try out a link and the left arrow 
key to leave a link.  Try and experiment.  The best way to learn the web 
is by trial and error.  Once you have used it a few times it will become 
like second nature and you will discover the "advanced" commands that 
will make it even more powerfull.
	Send you comments to josie@iww.org, gnat@iww.org, or as a last 
resort to deke@iww.org (he's already overworked as it is).  Also, if you 
like this interface and would like to use it in future, send us some 
email telling us that, since we might have to reduce access to non IWW 
members if usage becomes heavy (you could still visit the home page using 
your own web software regardless).
	Try it! Enjoy it! You might be suprised at what you find.
	Solidarity,
	josie, x341890


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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Network Working Group                                          J. Postel
> Request for Comments: 1591                                           ISI
> Category: Informational                                       March 1994
> 
> 
>               Domain Name System Structure and Delegation
> 
> 
> Status of this Memo
> 
>    This memo provides information for the Internet community.  This memo
>    does not specify an Internet standard of any kind.  Distribution of
>    this memo is unlimited.
> 
> 1. Introduction
> 
>    This memo provides some information on the structure of the names in
>    the Domain Name System (DNS), specifically the top-level domain
>    names; and on the administration of domains.  The Internet Assigned
>    Numbers Authority (IANA) is the overall authority for the IP
>    Addresses, the Domain Names, and many other parameters, used in the
>    Internet.  The day-to-day responsibility for the assignment of IP
>    Addresses, Autonomous System Numbers, and most top and second level
>    Domain Names are handled by the Internet Registry (IR) and regional
>    registries.
> 
> 2.  The Top Level Structure of the Domain Names
> 
>    In the Domain Name System (DNS) naming of computers there is a
>    hierarchy of names.  The root of system is unnamed.  There are a set
>    of what are called "top-level domain names" (TLDs).  These are the
>    generic TLDs (EDU, COM, NET, ORG, GOV, MIL, and INT), and the two
>    letter country codes from ISO-3166.  It is extremely unlikely that
>    any other TLDs will be created.
> 
>    Under each TLD may be created a hierarchy of names.  Generally, under
>    the generic TLDs the structure is very flat.  That is, many
>    organizations are registered directly under the TLD, and any further
>    structure is up to the individual organizations.
> 
>    In the country TLDs, there is a wide variation in the structure, in
>    some countries the structure is very flat, in others there is
>    substantial structural organization.  In some country domains the
>    second levels are generic categories (such as, AC, CO, GO, and RE),
>    in others they are based on political geography, and in still others,
>    organization names are listed directly under the country code.  The
>    organization for the US country domain is described in RFC 1480 [1].
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Postel                                                          [Page 1]
> 
> RFC 1591      Domain Name System Structure and Delegation     March 1994
> 
> 
>    Each of the generic TLDs was created for a general category of
>    organizations.  The country code domains (for example, FR, NL, KR,
>    US) are each organized by an administrator for that country.  These
>    administrators may further delegate the management of portions of the
>    naming tree.  These administrators are performing a public service on
>    behalf of the Internet community.  Descriptions of the generic
>    domains and the US country domain follow.
> 
>    Of these generic domains, five are international in nature, and two
>    are restricted to use by entities in the United States.
> 
>    World Wide Generic Domains:
> 
>    COM - This domain is intended for commercial entities, that is
>          companies.  This domain has grown very large and there is
>          concern about the administrative load and system performance if
>          the current growth pattern is continued.  Consideration is
>          being taken to subdivide the COM domain and only allow future
>          commercial registrations in the subdomains.
> 
>    EDU - This domain was originally intended for all educational
>          institutions.  Many Universities, colleges, schools,
>          educational service organizations, and educational consortia
>          have registered here.  More recently a decision has been taken
>          to limit further registrations to 4 year colleges and
>          universities.  Schools and 2-year colleges will be registered
>          in the country domains (see US Domain, especially K12 and CC,
>          below).
> 
>    NET - This domain is intended to hold only the computers of network
>          providers, that is the NIC and NOC computers, the
>          administrative computers, and the network node computers.  The
>          customers of the network provider would have domain names of
>          their own (not in the NET TLD).
> 
>    ORG - This domain is intended as the miscellaneous TLD for
>          organizations that didn't fit anywhere else.  Some non-
>          government organizations may fit here.
> 
>    INT - This domain is for organizations established by international
>          treaties, or international databases.
> 
>    United States Only Generic Domains:
> 
>    GOV - This domain was originally intended for any kind of government
>          office or agency.  More recently a decision was taken to
>          register only agencies of the US Federal government in this
>          domain.  State and local agencies are registered in the country
> 
> 
> 
> Postel                                                          [Page 2]
> 
> RFC 1591      Domain Name System Structure and Delegation     March 1994
> 
> 
>          domains (see US Domain, below).
> 
>    MIL - This domain is used by the US military.
> 
>    Example country code Domain:
> 
>    US - As an example of a country domain, the US domain provides for
>         the registration of all kinds of entities in the United States
>         on the basis of political geography, that is, a hierarchy of
>         <entity-name>.<locality>.<state-code>.US.  For example,
>         "IBM.Armonk.NY.US".  In addition, branches of the US domain are
>         provided within each state for schools (K12), community colleges
>         (CC), technical schools (TEC), state government agencies
>         (STATE), councils of governments (COG),libraries (LIB), museums
>         (MUS), and several other generic types of entities (see RFC 1480
>         for details [1]).
> 
>    To find a contact for a TLD use the "whois" program to access the
>    database on the host rs.internic.net.  Append "-dom" to the name of
>    TLD you are interested in.  For example:
> 
>                        whois -h rs.internic.net us-dom
>       or
>                        whois -h rs.internic.net edu-dom
> 
> 3.  The Administration of Delegated Domains
> 
>    The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) is responsible for the
>    overall coordination and management of the Domain Name System (DNS),
>    and especially the delegation of portions of the name space called
>    top-level domains.  Most of these top-level domains are two-letter
>    country codes taken from the ISO standard 3166.
> 
>    A central Internet Registry (IR) has been selected and designated to
>    handled the bulk of the day-to-day administration of the Domain Name
>    System.  Applications for new top-level domains (for example, country
>    code domains) are handled by the IR with consultation with the IANA.
>    The central IR is INTERNIC.NET.  Second level domains in COM, EDU,
>    ORG, NET, and GOV are registered by the Internet Registry at the
>    InterNIC.  The second level domains in the MIL are registered by the
>    DDN registry at NIC.DDN.MIL.  Second level names in INT are
>    registered by the PVM at ISI.EDU.
> 
>    While all requests for new top-level domains must be sent to the
>    Internic (at hostmaster@internic.net), the regional registries are
>    often enlisted to assist in the administration of the DNS, especially
>    in solving problems with a country administration.  Currently, the
>    RIPE NCC is the regional registry for Europe and the APNIC is the
> 
> 
> 
> Postel                                                          [Page 3]
> 
> RFC 1591      Domain Name System Structure and Delegation     March 1994
> 
> 
>    regional registry for the Asia-Pacific region, while the INTERNIC
>    administers the North America region, and all the as yet undelegated
>    regions.
> 
>       The contact mailboxes for these regional registries are:
> 
>          INTERNIC        hostmaster@internic.net
>          APNIC           hostmaster@apnic.net
>          RIPE NCC        ncc@ripe.net
> 
>    The policy concerns involved when a new top-level domain is
>    established are described in the following.  Also mentioned are
>    concerns raised when it is necessary to change the delegation of an
>    established domain from one party to another.
> 
>    A new top-level domain is usually created and its management
>    delegated to a "designated manager" all at once.
> 
>    Most of these same concerns are relevant when a sub-domain is
>    delegated and in general the principles described here apply
>    recursively to all delegations of the Internet DNS name space.
> 
>    The major concern in selecting a designated manager for a domain is
>    that it be able to carry out the necessary responsibilities, and have
>    the ability to do a equitable, just, honest, and competent job.
> 
>    1) The key requirement is that for each domain there be a designated
>       manager for supervising that domain's name space.  In the case of
>       top-level domains that are country codes this means that there is
>       a manager that supervises the domain names and operates the domain
>       name system in that country.
> 
>       The manager must, of course, be on the Internet.  There must be
>       Internet Protocol (IP) connectivity to the nameservers and email
>       connectivity to the management and staff of the manager.
> 
>       There must be an administrative contact and a technical contact
>       for each domain.  For top-level domains that are country codes at
>       least the administrative contact must reside in the country
>       involved.
> 
>    2) These designated authorities are trustees for the delegated
>       domain, and have a duty to serve the community.
> 
>       The designated manager is the trustee of the top-level domain for
>       both the nation, in the case of a country code, and the global
>       Internet community.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Postel                                                          [Page 4]
> 
> RFC 1591      Domain Name System Structure and Delegation     March 1994
> 
> 
>       Concerns about "rights" and "ownership" of domains are
>       inappropriate.  It is appropriate to be concerned about
>       "responsibilities" and "service" to the community.
> 
>    3) The designated manager must be equitable to all groups in the
>       domain that request domain names.
> 
>       This means that the same rules are applied to all requests, all
>       requests must be processed in a non-discriminatory fashion, and
>       academic and commercial (and other) users are treated on an equal
>       basis.  No bias shall be shown regarding requests that may come
>       from customers of some other business related to the manager --
>       e.g., no preferential service for customers of a particular data
>       network provider.  There can be no requirement that a particular
>       mail system (or other application), protocol, or product be used.
> 
>       There are no requirements on subdomains of top-level domains
>       beyond the requirements on higher-level domains themselves.  That
>       is, the requirements in this memo are applied recursively.  In
>       particular, all subdomains shall be allowed to operate their own
>       domain name servers, providing in them whatever information the
>       subdomain manager sees fit (as long as it is true and correct).
> 
>    4) Significantly interested parties in the domain should agree that
>       the designated manager is the appropriate party.
> 
>       The IANA tries to have any contending parties reach agreement
>       among themselves, and generally takes no action to change things
>       unless all the contending parties agree; only in cases where the
>       designated manager has substantially mis-behaved would the IANA
>       step in.
> 
>       However, it is also appropriate for interested parties to have
>       some voice in selecting the designated manager.
> 
>       There are two cases where the IANA and the central IR may
>       establish a new top-level domain and delegate only a portion of
>       it: (1) there are contending parties that cannot agree, or (2) the
>       applying party may not be able to represent or serve the whole
>       country.  The later case sometimes arises when a party outside a
>       country is trying to be helpful in getting networking started in a
>       country -- this is sometimes called a "proxy" DNS service.
> 
>       The Internet DNS Names Review Board (IDNB), a committee
>       established by the IANA, will act as a review panel for cases in
>       which the parties can not reach agreement among themselves.  The
>       IDNB's decisions will be binding.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Postel                                                          [Page 5]
> 
> RFC 1591      Domain Name System Structure and Delegation     March 1994
> 
> 
>    5) The designated manager must do a satisfactory job of operating the
>       DNS service for the domain.
> 
>       That is, the actual management of the assigning of domain names,
>       delegating subdomains and operating nameservers must be done with
>       technical competence.  This includes keeping the central IR (in
>       the case of top-level domains) or other higher-level domain
>       manager advised of the status of the domain, responding to
>       requests in a timely manner, and operating the database with
>       accuracy, robustness, and resilience.
> 
>       There must be a primary and a secondary nameserver that have IP
>       connectivity to the Internet and can be easily checked for
>       operational status and database accuracy by the IR and the IANA.
> 
>       In cases when there are persistent problems with the proper
>       operation of a domain, the delegation may be revoked, and possibly
>       delegated to another designated manager.
> 
>    6) For any transfer of the designated manager trusteeship from one
>       organization to another, the higher-level domain manager (the IANA
>       in the case of top-level domains) must receive communications from
>       both the old organization and the new organization that assure the
>       IANA that the transfer in mutually agreed, and that the new
>       organization understands its responsibilities.
> 
>       It is also very helpful for the IANA to receive communications
>       from other parties that may be concerned or affected by the
>       transfer.
> 
> 4. Rights to Names
> 
>    1) Names and Trademarks
> 
>       In case of a dispute between domain name registrants as to the
>       rights to a particular name, the registration authority shall have
>       no role or responsibility other than to provide the contact
>       information to both parties.
> 
>       The registration of a domain name does not have any Trademark
>       status.  It is up to the requestor to be sure he is not violating
>       anyone else's Trademark.
> 
>    2) Country Codes
> 
>       The IANA is not in the business of deciding what is and what is
>       not a country.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Postel                                                          [Page 6]
> 
> RFC 1591      Domain Name System Structure and Delegation     March 1994
> 
> 
>       The selection of the ISO 3166 list as a basis for country code
>       top-level domain names was made with the knowledge that ISO has a
>       procedure for determining which entities should be and should not
>       be on that list.
> 
> 5. Security Considerations
> 
>    Security issues are not discussed in this memo.
> 
> 6. Acknowledgements
> 
>    Many people have made comments on draft version of these descriptions
>    and procedures.  Steve Goldstein and John Klensin have been
>    particularly helpful.
> 
> 7. Author's Address
> 
>    Jon Postel
>    USC/Information Sciences Institute
>    4676 Admiralty Way
>    Marina del Rey, CA  90292
> 
>    Phone: 310-822-1511
>    Fax:   310-823-6714
>    EMail: Postel@ISI.EDU
> 
> 7. References
> 
>    [1] Cooper, A., and J. Postel, "The US Domain", RFC 1480,
>        USC/Information Sciences Institute, June 1993.
> 
>    [2] Reynolds, J., and J. Postel, "Assigned Numbers", STD 2, RFC 1340,
>        USC/Information Sciences Institute, July 1992.
> 
>    [3] Mockapetris, P., "Domain Names - Concepts and Facilities", STD
>        13, RFC 1034, USC/Information Sciences Institute, November 1987.
> 
>    [4] Mockapetris, P., "Domain Names - Implementation and
>        Specification", STD 13, RFC 1035, USC/Information Sciences
>        Institute, November 1987.
> 
>    [6] Partridge, C., "Mail Routing and the Domain System", STD 14, RFC
>        974, CSNET CIC BBN, January 1986.
> 
>    [7] Braden, R., Editor, "Requirements for Internet Hosts --
>        Application and Support", STD 3, RFC 1123, Internet Engineering
>        Task Force, October 1989.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Postel                                                          [Page 7]
>

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Network Working Group                                          J. Postel
Request for Comments: 1591                                           ISI
Category: Informational                                       March 1994


              Domain Name System Structure and Delegation


Status of this Memo

   This memo provides information for the Internet community.  This memo
   does not specify an Internet standard of any kind.  Distribution of
   this memo is unlimited.

1. Introduction

   This memo provides some information on the structure of the names in
   the Domain Name System (DNS), specifically the top-level domain
   names; and on the administration of domains.  The Internet Assigned
   Numbers Authority (IANA) is the overall authority for the IP
   Addresses, the Domain Names, and many other parameters, used in the
   Internet.  The day-to-day responsibility for the assignment of IP
   Addresses, Autonomous System Numbers, and most top and second level
   Domain Names are handled by the Internet Registry (IR) and regional
   registries.

2.  The Top Level Structure of the Domain Names

   In the Domain Name System (DNS) naming of computers there is a
   hierarchy of names.  The root of system is unnamed.  There are a set
   of what are called "top-level domain names" (TLDs).  These are the
   generic TLDs (EDU, COM, NET, ORG, GOV, MIL, and INT), and the two
   letter country codes from ISO-3166.  It is extremely unlikely that
   any other TLDs will be created.

   Under each TLD may be created a hierarchy of names.  Generally, under
   the generic TLDs the structure is very flat.  That is, many
   organizations are registered directly under the TLD, and any further
   structure is up to the individual organizations.

   In the country TLDs, there is a wide variation in the structure, in
   some countries the structure is very flat, in others there is
   substantial structural organization.  In some country domains the
   second levels are generic categories (such as, AC, CO, GO, and RE),
   in others they are based on political geography, and in still others,
   organization names are listed directly under the country code.  The
   organization for the US country domain is described in RFC 1480 [1].




Postel                                                          [Page 1]

RFC 1591      Domain Name System Structure and Delegation     March 1994


   Each of the generic TLDs was created for a general category of
   organizations.  The country code domains (for example, FR, NL, KR,
   US) are each organized by an administrator for that country.  These
   administrators may further delegate the management of portions of the
   naming tree.  These administrators are performing a public service on
   behalf of the Internet community.  Descriptions of the generic
   domains and the US country domain follow.

   Of these generic domains, five are international in nature, and two
   are restricted to use by entities in the United States.

   World Wide Generic Domains:

   COM - This domain is intended for commercial entities, that is
         companies.  This domain has grown very large and there is
         concern about the administrative load and system performance if
         the current growth pattern is continued.  Consideration is
         being taken to subdivide the COM domain and only allow future
         commercial registrations in the subdomains.

   EDU - This domain was originally intended for all educational
         institutions.  Many Universities, colleges, schools,
         educational service organizations, and educational consortia
         have registered here.  More recently a decision has been taken
         to limit further registrations to 4 year colleges and
         universities.  Schools and 2-year colleges will be registered
         in the country domains (see US Domain, especially K12 and CC,
         below).

   NET - This domain is intended to hold only the computers of network
         providers, that is the NIC and NOC computers, the
         administrative computers, and the network node computers.  The
         customers of the network provider would have domain names of
         their own (not in the NET TLD).

   ORG - This domain is intended as the miscellaneous TLD for
         organizations that didn't fit anywhere else.  Some non-
         government organizations may fit here.

   INT - This domain is for organizations established by international
         treaties, or international databases.

   United States Only Generic Domains:

   GOV - This domain was originally intended for any kind of government
         office or agency.  More recently a decision was taken to
         register only agencies of the US Federal government in this
         domain.  State and local agencies are registered in the country



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         domains (see US Domain, below).

   MIL - This domain is used by the US military.

   Example country code Domain:

   US - As an example of a country domain, the US domain provides for
        the registration of all kinds of entities in the United States
        on the basis of political geography, that is, a hierarchy of
        <entity-name>.<locality>.<state-code>.US.  For example,
        "IBM.Armonk.NY.US".  In addition, branches of the US domain are
        provided within each state for schools (K12), community colleges
        (CC), technical schools (TEC), state government agencies
        (STATE), councils of governments (COG),libraries (LIB), museums
        (MUS), and several other generic types of entities (see RFC 1480
        for details [1]).

   To find a contact for a TLD use the "whois" program to access the
   database on the host rs.internic.net.  Append "-dom" to the name of
   TLD you are interested in.  For example:

                       whois -h rs.internic.net us-dom
      or
                       whois -h rs.internic.net edu-dom

3.  The Administration of Delegated Domains

   The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) is responsible for the
   overall coordination and management of the Domain Name System (DNS),
   and especially the delegation of portions of the name space called
   top-level domains.  Most of these top-level domains are two-letter
   country codes taken from the ISO standard 3166.

   A central Internet Registry (IR) has been selected and designated to
   handled the bulk of the day-to-day administration of the Domain Name
   System.  Applications for new top-level domains (for example, country
   code domains) are handled by the IR with consultation with the IANA.
   The central IR is INTERNIC.NET.  Second level domains in COM, EDU,
   ORG, NET, and GOV are registered by the Internet Registry at the
   InterNIC.  The second level domains in the MIL are registered by the
   DDN registry at NIC.DDN.MIL.  Second level names in INT are
   registered by the PVM at ISI.EDU.

   While all requests for new top-level domains must be sent to the
   Internic (at hostmaster@internic.net), the regional registries are
   often enlisted to assist in the administration of the DNS, especially
   in solving problems with a country administration.  Currently, the
   RIPE NCC is the regional registry for Europe and the APNIC is the



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   regional registry for the Asia-Pacific region, while the INTERNIC
   administers the North America region, and all the as yet undelegated
   regions.

      The contact mailboxes for these regional registries are:

         INTERNIC        hostmaster@internic.net
         APNIC           hostmaster@apnic.net
         RIPE NCC        ncc@ripe.net

   The policy concerns involved when a new top-level domain is
   established are described in the following.  Also mentioned are
   concerns raised when it is necessary to change the delegation of an
   established domain from one party to another.

   A new top-level domain is usually created and its management
   delegated to a "designated manager" all at once.

   Most of these same concerns are relevant when a sub-domain is
   delegated and in general the principles described here apply
   recursively to all delegations of the Internet DNS name space.

   The major concern in selecting a designated manager for a domain is
   that it be able to carry out the necessary responsibilities, and have
   the ability to do a equitable, just, honest, and competent job.

   1) The key requirement is that for each domain there be a designated
      manager for supervising that domain's name space.  In the case of
      top-level domains that are country codes this means that there is
      a manager that supervises the domain names and operates the domain
      name system in that country.

      The manager must, of course, be on the Internet.  There must be
      Internet Protocol (IP) connectivity to the nameservers and email
      connectivity to the management and staff of the manager.

      There must be an administrative contact and a technical contact
      for each domain.  For top-level domains that are country codes at
      least the administrative contact must reside in the country
      involved.

   2) These designated authorities are trustees for the delegated
      domain, and have a duty to serve the community.

      The designated manager is the trustee of the top-level domain for
      both the nation, in the case of a country code, and the global
      Internet community.




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      Concerns about "rights" and "ownership" of domains are
      inappropriate.  It is appropriate to be concerned about
      "responsibilities" and "service" to the community.

   3) The designated manager must be equitable to all groups in the
      domain that request domain names.

      This means that the same rules are applied to all requests, all
      requests must be processed in a non-discriminatory fashion, and
      academic and commercial (and other) users are treated on an equal
      basis.  No bias shall be shown regarding requests that may come
      from customers of some other business related to the manager --
      e.g., no preferential service for customers of a particular data
      network provider.  There can be no requirement that a particular
      mail system (or other application), protocol, or product be used.

      There are no requirements on subdomains of top-level domains
      beyond the requirements on higher-level domains themselves.  That
      is, the requirements in this memo are applied recursively.  In
      particular, all subdomains shall be allowed to operate their own
      domain name servers, providing in them whatever information the
      subdomain manager sees fit (as long as it is true and correct).

   4) Significantly interested parties in the domain should agree that
      the designated manager is the appropriate party.

      The IANA tries to have any contending parties reach agreement
      among themselves, and generally takes no action to change things
      unless all the contending parties agree; only in cases where the
      designated manager has substantially mis-behaved would the IANA
      step in.

      However, it is also appropriate for interested parties to have
      some voice in selecting the designated manager.

      There are two cases where the IANA and the central IR may
      establish a new top-level domain and delegate only a portion of
      it: (1) there are contending parties that cannot agree, or (2) the
      applying party may not be able to represent or serve the whole
      country.  The later case sometimes arises when a party outside a
      country is trying to be helpful in getting networking started in a
      country -- this is sometimes called a "proxy" DNS service.

      The Internet DNS Names Review Board (IDNB), a committee
      established by the IANA, will act as a review panel for cases in
      which the parties can not reach agreement among themselves.  The
      IDNB's decisions will be binding.




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   5) The designated manager must do a satisfactory job of operating the
      DNS service for the domain.

      That is, the actual management of the assigning of domain names,
      delegating subdomains and operating nameservers must be done with
      technical competence.  This includes keeping the central IR (in
      the case of top-level domains) or other higher-level domain
      manager advised of the status of the domain, responding to
      requests in a timely manner, and operating the database with
      accuracy, robustness, and resilience.

      There must be a primary and a secondary nameserver that have IP
      connectivity to the Internet and can be easily checked for
      operational status and database accuracy by the IR and the IANA.

      In cases when there are persistent problems with the proper
      operation of a domain, the delegation may be revoked, and possibly
      delegated to another designated manager.

   6) For any transfer of the designated manager trusteeship from one
      organization to another, the higher-level domain manager (the IANA
      in the case of top-level domains) must receive communications from
      both the old organization and the new organization that assure the
      IANA that the transfer in mutually agreed, and that the new
      organization understands its responsibilities.

      It is also very helpful for the IANA to receive communications
      from other parties that may be concerned or affected by the
      transfer.

4. Rights to Names

   1) Names and Trademarks

      In case of a dispute between domain name registrants as to the
      rights to a particular name, the registration authority shall have
      no role or responsibility other than to provide the contact
      information to both parties.

      The registration of a domain name does not have any Trademark
      status.  It is up to the requestor to be sure he is not violating
      anyone else's Trademark.

   2) Country Codes

      The IANA is not in the business of deciding what is and what is
      not a country.




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      The selection of the ISO 3166 list as a basis for country code
      top-level domain names was made with the knowledge that ISO has a
      procedure for determining which entities should be and should not
      be on that list.

5. Security Considerations

   Security issues are not discussed in this memo.

6. Acknowledgements

   Many people have made comments on draft version of these descriptions
   and procedures.  Steve Goldstein and John Klensin have been
   particularly helpful.

7. Author's Address

   Jon Postel
   USC/Information Sciences Institute
   4676 Admiralty Way
   Marina del Rey, CA  90292

   Phone: 310-822-1511
   Fax:   310-823-6714
   EMail: Postel@ISI.EDU

7. References

   [1] Cooper, A., and J. Postel, "The US Domain", RFC 1480,
       USC/Information Sciences Institute, June 1993.

   [2] Reynolds, J., and J. Postel, "Assigned Numbers", STD 2, RFC 1340,
       USC/Information Sciences Institute, July 1992.

   [3] Mockapetris, P., "Domain Names - Concepts and Facilities", STD
       13, RFC 1034, USC/Information Sciences Institute, November 1987.

   [4] Mockapetris, P., "Domain Names - Implementation and
       Specification", STD 13, RFC 1035, USC/Information Sciences
       Institute, November 1987.

   [6] Partridge, C., "Mail Routing and the Domain System", STD 14, RFC
       974, CSNET CIC BBN, January 1986.

   [7] Braden, R., Editor, "Requirements for Internet Hosts --
       Application and Support", STD 3, RFC 1123, Internet Engineering
       Task Force, October 1989.




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From ee@lever.com Thu Apr 13 01:18:24 1995
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I've installed procmail and SmartList on my machine and I'm ready to move it
to fletcher. Unfortunately I seem to have forgotten the password I set it to.
Perhaps you could reset it to the original password I had requested. Or set
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From deke@wps.com Thu Apr 13 12:22:39 1995
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From: Michael Ballard <miballar@leland.Stanford.EDU>
To: indwrk@web.apc.org
cc: iww-list@fido.wps.com
Subject: Re: IU dues etc
In-Reply-To: <m0ryc9M-0001toC@web.apc.org>
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On Tue, 11 Apr 1995 indwrk@web.apc.org wrote:

> In this photocopy constitution, I can't find the part where it
> says IU has to have one job shop,  or anything about IU bylaws.  I
> know I've seen the part about the job shop before but now I can't
> find it.
> 
> [Who has the updated constitution on computer file?  Fred?  Let's
> put this in the Spunk archive  chopped into convenient size files
> (send to Mike Ballard).]
> 
> --CLMurray/Ottawa
> ###
> 
Carlos,

I sent the  Constitution to the Spunk Press Archive; but I'm not sure when
it will appear.  Since the London "Sunday Times" flap, there has been
some disarray at Spunk.  I'm assuming that it'll get fixed soon.
Yours for the OBU,
Mike
 
Don't just criticize; get yourself organized in the One Big Union.
Join the Wobblies! e-mail the IWW:  iww@igc.apc.org









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>>>>>>>>>>Forwarded Message:  From: stevew@xchange.apana.org.au
(steve wright) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 95 16:58:01 AEDT Organization:
the xchange bbs, melbourne, australia. phone: 03-383 3094

.....

Do you all have any contact with the so-called 'alternative'
unions in Italy - e.g. the CUB and the SLA? I have friends in the
former, associated with the libtertarian journal *Collegamenti*,
although they don't seem to be net-savvy yet.

Best wishes, Steve W

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###

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From: indwrk@web.apc.org ( )
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Subject: Thanks for GEB Motion DN4
Cc: helchick@u.washington.edu, mdamore@moose.uvm.edu, sciww@fido.wps.com
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Hi Folxs

Just want to say thanks for your GEB motion DN4  which I note  in
the G,O.B. has passed.

Thanks!  Carlos Lee Murray Ottawa

indwrk@web.apc.org BH295@Freenet.Carleton.Ca

From deke@wps.com Thu Apr 13 14:40:17 1995
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From: X341890 <josie@iww.org>
To: iww-list@wps.com
Subject: New email address for josie
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Hey all,
	This is your official notification.  Starting now do not sent me 
email at freevoice@igc.apc.org.  Instead you can reach me at:
	josie@iww.org
Thanks, for taking this into account in your future email connectivity.
	Solidarity,
	josie, x341890


From gnat@iww.org Thu Apr 13 15:22:22 1995
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From: X341841 <gnat@iww.org>
To: indwrk@web.apc.org
cc: Mitch Rice <mitch@bluemarble.net>, deke@wps.com
Subject: Re: Archive info request?
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On Thu, 13 Apr 1995 indwrk@web.apc.org wrote:
> Could you answer this person's question please?
> From: gnat@iww.org Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 20:01:14 -0700 (PDT)
> > Are there archives of the conf iww.news mailing list?
> > Does anybody know where I can get hold of them?

Thanks.  There's an "archive" on the Borg web server [below], but it's
just the posts I've gotten in the last week or so since I've been on the
list. 

http://iww.org/
http://www.bluemarble.net/~mitch/


From gnat@iww.org Thu Apr 13 15:28:47 1995
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From: X341841 <gnat@iww.org>
To: X341890 <josie@fletcher.iww.org>
cc: Mitch Rice <mitch@bluemarble.net>,
        "X342404 (peterj)" <peterj@fletcher.iww.org>, deke@wps.com
Subject: Re: accessing the home page
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On Wed, 12 Apr 1995, X341890 wrote:
> 	Home page looks great!  The problem with access was that 
> index.html was not readable by others.  also, a lot of files in the 
> www/docs directory are developing variations in ownership which might 
> create problems later on.  Maybe we should make them all uniformly 
> www.www and read and writable by owner and group, and readable only by 
> others.  This way if a file is changed accidentally, we would know how to 
> correct it.  I didn't want to change much of the ownership on your stuff 
> for fear that it would screw something up throught my ignorance.

Anything important I'll keep copies of in /usr/home/gnat.  Please
interfere as much as you like.  I periodically notice that permissions are
screwed up and fix them, but I guess not often enough.  I should just
change my default permissions I guess. 

http://iww.org/
http://www.bluemarble.net/~mitch/


From gnat@iww.org Thu Apr 13 16:26:25 1995
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From: X341841 <gnat@iww.org>
To: acratador@mest.unizar.es
cc: X341890 <josie@fletcher.iww.org>,
        "X342404 (peterj)" <peterj@fletcher.iww.org>, deke@wps.com
Subject: Re: Mail nuevo acratador
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On Tue, 11 Apr 1995 acratador@mest.unizar.es wrote:
> >> El Acratador is an counter-informative bulletin, it contains news & 
> >> articles. It is written in spanish language.
> >> If you want to receive it by e-mail, we can send it.
> >Please send the Acratador by e-mail -- thanks!
> Ok, I have sended the zine by e-mail. It is encoded with BinHex. If 
> you can't to decode it, I can send it as "text", but some spanish 
> symbols will be losen.

I'm sorry, but I'm not really sure what BinHex is about.  I'm sure
somebody will enlighten me eventually, but in the interim the text version
would facilitate an immediate solution. 

http://iww.org/
http://www.bluemarble.net/~mitch/


From deke@wps.com Thu Apr 13 16:50:31 1995
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From: Fred  Chase <73174.77@compuserve.com>
To: Iww-list <iww-list@fido.wps.com>, Fred Chase <73174.77@compuserve.com>
Subject: Recent post on Mumia
Message-ID: <950413234204_73174.77_DHI68-2@CompuServe.COM>
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	I seem to have erased a recent post that detailed the case of Mumia Abu
Jamal.  I've asked Mike D'Amore to sponsor a motion of support before the board
and he'd like to see it.  Could someone re-post it?

				Thanks,

				 Fred
 


From gnat@iww.org Thu Apr 13 17:05:54 1995
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From: X341841 <gnat@iww.org>
To: X341890 <josie@fletcher.iww.org>
cc: deke@wps.com, Mitch Rice <mitch@bluemarble.net>,
        "X342404 (peterj)" <peterj@fletcher.iww.org>
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I have set my default shell umask to 002 -- this should cut down on
permissions bullshit.  As the author of most of these documents I'm in a
particularly bad position to notice permissions problems; I appreciate
having them pointed out & you shouldn't hesitate to fix them yourself if
the opportunity presents itself. 

http://iww.org/
http://www.bluemarble.net/~mitch/


From gnat@iww.org Thu Apr 13 17:58:23 1995
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From: X341841 <gnat@iww.org>
Reply-To: webmaster@iww.org
To: X341890 <josie@fletcher.iww.org>
cc: Mitch Rice <mitch@bluemarble.net>,
        "X342404 (peterj)" <peterj@fletcher.iww.org>,
        Sarah Mithoefer <trippy@sfsu.edu>, deke@wps.com
Subject: Re: your mail
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On Thu, 13 Apr 1995, X341890 wrote:

> Sounds good.  What's your thoughts on encouraging Branch's, job shops, 
> etc. on developing thier own home pages on our system?
> josie,x341890

Josie: I assume you already know this, but just in case: 

Anybody on this machine can "post" web pages by putting documents in
directories called ~/public_html/ in their home directories.  As long as
their permissions are set correctly by their authors, we don't have to do
anything; the authors can disseminate their URLs themselves. 

The URL for a file called
/usr/home/wobguy/public_html/funky_stuff/doc5.html would be
http://iww.org/~wobguy/funky_stuff/doc5.html

Anything ending in .../index.html can be abbreviated up to the last slash:
/usr/home/fred/public_html/official_bullshit/index.html can be retrieved
with http://iww.org/~fred/official_bullshit/

Readers who can't remember the whole URL for wobguy's 
document-number-whatever are likely to try http://iww.org/~wobguy/ 
looking for links. 

Now, what do we have to do?  As a helpful extra service (but _not_
necessary for users to take advantage of our web server), we should
include links to our clients' stuff in http://iww.org/index.html or some
subordinate index. 

Deke: as far as I know none of this creates _any_ security issues; goofy
server behaviors would have to be placed _by_us_ in
/var/www/cgi-bin/funky_server* and malicious URL's like
http://iww.org/~wobguy/../../../../etc/fuck-shit-up are automatically not
served. 

http://iww.org/
http://www.bluemarble.net/~mitch/


From gnat@iww.org Thu Apr 13 18:05:32 1995
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From: X341841 <gnat@iww.org>
Reply-To: webmaster@iww.org
To: indwrk@web.apc.org
cc: deke@wps.com
Subject: Re: king+me www request failed
In-Reply-To: <m0rzUvP-0000kYC@web.apc.org>
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On Thu, 13 Apr 1995 indwrk@web.apc.org wrote:

> I think this request for www sub ? to iww-news came from your direction,
though not positive about that.  Anyway it didn't work and I was unable to
email to the address:  king+me@198.95.207.167

I saw that query too.  I don't know why he, or some glitch on his end,
submitted it like that, but I happen to know that the request originated
from echen@keypress.com (a DJ at Radio Libre).  I retested the submission
form and it seemed to work fine. 

http://iww.org/
http://www.bluemarble.net/~mitch/



From josie@iww.org Thu Apr 13 18:13:29 1995
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From: X341890 <josie@iww.org>
To: X341841 <gnat@fletcher.iww.org>
cc: Mitch Rice <mitch@bluemarble.net>,
        "X342404 (peterj)" <peterj@fletcher.iww.org>,
        Sarah Mithoefer <trippy@sfsu.edu>, deke@wps.com
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Hey Gnat,
	Actually, I meant that we would encourge, organize, facilitate 
the process as much of the web stuff is incomprehensible to people.  Also 
linking up to our home page would be a way of developing solidarity, 
access etc, and would not prevent people from disseminating their URL's 
independently.  Also, check it if I'm wrong, but I thought that I had 
restricted the ability of the server to go anywhere other than the 
initial directory to start off, as a security mesure, as well as 
resticting the ability of a web user to change documents etc.  Maybe, I 
misunderstood the security instructions.
	Well those were my thoughts,
	Solidarity,
	josie, x341890

From gnat@iww.org Thu Apr 13 18:26:08 1995
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From: x341841 <gnat@iww.org>
Reply-To: webmaster@iww.org
To: X341890 <josie@fletcher.iww.org>
cc: Mitch Rice <mitch@bluemarble.net>,
        "X342404 (peterj)" <peterj@fletcher.iww.org>,
        Sarah Mithoefer <trippy@sfsu.edu>, deke@wps.com
Subject: Re: your mail
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On Thu, 13 Apr 1995, X341890 wrote:
> 	Actually, I meant that we would encourge, organize, facilitate 
> the process as much of the web stuff is incomprehensible to people.  Also 
> linking up to our home page would be a way of developing solidarity, 
> access etc, and would not prevent people from disseminating their URL's 
> independently.  Also, check it if I'm wrong, but I thought that I had 
> restricted the ability of the server to go anywhere other than the 
> initial directory to start off, as a security mesure, as well as 
> resticting the ability of a web user to change documents etc.  Maybe, I 
> misunderstood the security instructions.

Go for it.  All I know is, when I type

lynx http://iww.org/~gnat/test_me.html

for instance, I get a document back.  (It's still there; you can test the
same URL yourselves.) Whether the server is smart enough to tell that it's
me asking for my own document, I have no idea. 

http://iww.org/
http://www.bluemarble.net/~mitch/


From deke@wps.com Fri Apr 14 09:18:48 1995
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From: Michael Ballard <miballar@leland.Stanford.EDU>
To: iww-list@wps.com
Subject: Re: Italy Contacts? (fwd)
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There are some contacts on the Spunk list who may be able to help
the FW.  
There is one address below in the message.
Maybe Anna can help find the others.
Mike

Don't just criticize; get yourself organized in the One Big Union.
Join the Wobblies! e-mail the IWW:  iww@igc.apc.org








---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 16:46:42 +1000
From: Anna Cicognani <anna@arch.su.EDU.AU>
To: spunk@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: Italy Contacts?

> There should be at least 4 Italian anarchists on this list.. Luc Pac, 
> Anna, and Massi & Partigian (From IRC).

Yeah! I am alive, even if I moved to Sydney last month...


From 75211.2515@compuserve.com Fri Apr 14 10:24:34 1995
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Date: 14 Apr 95 13:17:13 EDT
From: bonnie frontino <75211.2515@compuserve.com>
To: Deke Motif Nihilson <deke@fido.wps.com>
Subject: Happy Spring
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Hi guy! Just a quick note to say hey. I take it your trip home was an ok one.
Wishing you were here; Persephone is looking really gorgeous this year. Despite
the lack of rain, the flowers are spectacular. And we have a good part of the
4500 sq. ft. of garden started; a row of cabbages, a row of broccoli, a row of
snap peas, a row spinach, 3 rows of potatoes, a row of onions and a row of
carrots. Those are all 50 ft. rows BTW. Already planning to give anything we
don't eat or put to FNB, who BTW, along with Earth First had a demonstration in
downtown Asheville the other day. Of coure I didn't hear about it until
afterwards. It was on a day I worked anyway.  Lynn's already planning on cooking
for FNB. So none of the garden will go to waste. 

And for the good news, although I'm a bit reluctant to say it out loud in fear
of jinxing it. Gabe and MIsty are planning to move to Asheville the end of June.
Says he got screwed over by a friend over his recording equipment and needs to
distance himself from Tucson. Needs to get back on his feet and needs to do some
healing. So keep your fingers crossed that it really happens. You know how much
that'll please me. It may not be for long; he really wants to be in New York,
but this is a good stopping point and I'll take any time I can get.

Gotto run. Have been planting seeds all day, and now there's a greenhouse full
of seedlings to be pricked out.(yeh, I'm up to those old tricks again}.  Hope
the weather there is as beautiful as it is here and that your transition back to
the mainland is an easy on. Take care, do good work, and keep in touch.   Love,
Bonnie

PS  Haven't heard from your friends in Hawaii yet and I've been thinking about
some things they might do. 


From deke@wps.com Fri Apr 14 12:06:33 1995
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From: Michael Ballard <miballar@leland.Stanford.EDU>
To: iww-list@fido.wps.com
Subject: Re: Italy Contacts? (fwd)
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FYI,
Mission accomplished!
Mike

Don't just criticize; get yourself organized in the One Big Union.
Join the Wobblies! e-mail the IWW:  iww@igc.apc.org








---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 19:09:42 +0200 (DFT)
From: Luc Pac <lpaccagn@risc1.gelso.unitn.it>
To: Jamal Hannah <jamal@bronze.lcs.mit.edu>
Cc: Spunk Press Collective <spunk@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: Italy Contacts? (fwd)

> There should be at least 4 Italian anarchists on this list.. Luc Pac, 
> Anna, and Massi & Partigian (From IRC).

yes i'm here, and btw i'm already in touch with the guy who wrote the 
original msg asking for infos about the italian scene...



From josie@iww.org Fri Apr 14 19:16:41 1995
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From: X341890 <josie@iww.org>
To: webmaster@iww.org
cc: Mitch Rice <mitch@bluemarble.net>,
        "X342404 (peterj)" <peterj@fletcher.iww.org>,
        Sarah Mithoefer <trippy@sfsu.edu>, deke@wps.com
Subject: Re: your mail
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Hey gnat and others,
	I tested your test_me.html from another system and it worked.  So 
it seems that the server will take you to home directories.
	josie, x341890

From gnat@iww.org Sat Apr 15 19:20:58 1995
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From: x341841 <gnat@iww.org>
Reply-To: webmaster@iww.org
To: Mitch Rice <mitch@bluemarble.net>
cc: deke@wps.com
Subject: Re: Thanks and ?
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On Wed, 12 Apr 1995, Mitch Rice wrote:
> I named your link  "FW Deke's IWW Index". If you wish another appellation, 
> just let me know, like "IWW Main Index", or "San Francisco IWW", whatever 
> you find appropriate.

I actually liked "FW Deke's IWW Index" better.  "Main Index" implies a
hierarchical relationship, and I think the paradigm should be that any
autonomous web site is as important as any other, and that this would be
the best way to encourage more people to get involved.  But whatever --

http://iww.org/
http://www.bluemarble.net/~mitch/


From mitch@bluemarble.net Sat Apr 15 19:55:33 1995
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From: Mitch Rice <mitch@bluemarble.net>
To: x341841 <gnat@iww.org>
cc: deke@wps.com
Subject: Re: Thanks and ?
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On Sat, 15 Apr 1995, x341841 wrote:
> 
> I actually liked "FW Deke's IWW Index" better.  "Main Index" implies a
> hierarchical relationship, and I think the paradigm should be that any
> autonomous web site is as important as any other, and that this would be
> the best way to encourage more people to get involved.  But whatever --

Thanks for considering this topic. I understand your point, as well as
Deke's, that the site is not "his", but belongs to the union.  
In the same way my page is for the union, send me stuff, and I'll post it, or 
add a good link, but it is mine in the sense that I pay for the computer, 
the connection, and for my server, plus all the time. It is mine in that 
I am _responsible_ for it, but not mine in that I _control_ it.

Am I making sense, or just splittin hairs? (A favorite Wob pasttime)

The general public is not so sensitive to these fine points, and will see
that we are decentralized, with autonamous web site, and I agree this is good
and apppropriate for the  IWW.  The reason I like the Main Index is that
most of what my web contains is links to iww.org with my prose 
surrounding them.  Perhaps when I have more tunes online I will feel
more "autonomous" than I do now.

As to my name, when in the union before, I adopted the moniker  "Buckeye
Slim", as I had lived so long in Ohio. I have named my page "Hoosier Slim's"
but had it as Indiana Slim's for a while, and flashed on the name
Cyber Slim earlier this eve. What do you think?  Being in IU630, I feel 
it is ok to use the old-time naming traditions, what do you say?
Thanks for any input.
Mitch
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Freelance Cogitator			mitch@bluemarble.net
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From deke@iww.org Sun Apr 16 21:28:42 1995
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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 21:23:44 -0700
From: X341697 (Deke Nihilson) <deke@iww.org>
Message-Id: <199504170423.VAA22249@fletcher.iww.org>
To: deke@wps.com
Subject: SmartList
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		SmartList mailinglist management
		--------------------------------

	Copyright (c) 1993-1994, Stephen R. van den Berg, The Netherlands.
				 <berg@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de>

NOTE: Run "flist -v" to find out more about your installed version of
      SmartList.

Contents:
---------	1. Creating and removing mailinglists or archive servers
		2. Remote maintenance of mailinglists
		3. Customisation
		3a.Digest processing
		3b.Restricting subscriptions
		3c.Restricting submissions
		3d.Auto subscription on first submission
		3e.Autosending files to new subscribers
		3f.Moderated lists
		3g.List of lists
		3h.Positively discriminate certain daemons
		3i.Default help text replies
		3j.Unsubscribe assistance
		3k.Exploding other (non-SmartList) lists
		3l.Schematic overview of what goes on behind the scenes
		4. The archive server
		4a.Sending files to the archive server
		4b.Restricting access to the archive server
		5. The format of the dist file
		6. Multigram and the thresholds in rc.init/rc.custom
		7. Choplist & sendmail
		8. FTP addresses & the SmartList mailinglist

$Id: Manual,v 1.45 1994/10/26 19:37:05 berg Exp $


1. Creating and removing mailinglists or archive servers
   -----------------------------------------------------

Make sure that the .bin directory is in your PATH.  Now you can issue
commands like:

	createlist testing
	createlist testing joe@somewhere.edu
	createlist -a testing joe@somewhere.edu
	removelist testing

The first command creates a mailinglist with two useful addresses:

	testing
	testing-request

The second command does the same, but it also specifies joe@somewhere.edu
to be the responsible contact person for this list.

The third command does the same, except instead of creating a mailinglist,
it creates an archive server.

The fourth command removes all traces of the "testing" mailinglist again.

There are four other convenience-utilitis that can be used:
	led	A wrapper around your editor, should be used when instead
		of calling up your editor directly whenever editing a
		SmartList managed file.	 It automatically takes care
		of proper locking and does attribute checks.
	delink
		It will unlink a file from its hardlinked counterpart(s)
		(without deleting it).
	showlink
		It will display what groups of files are linked together.
	donatelist
		It will put a list under complete and exclusive control
		of the maintainer (a local user).  See below.

If you are running several lists maintained by separate maintainers, you
can give a maintainer complete and sole control over his or her own list
without the need for them to have user list or group list rights.
For this to work, you simply have to "donatelist the_maintainer his_list"
the whole tree that contains his list to him (her).  Make sure that the
group id of all necessary files in the tree are still group-writable by
"list", because that's the access privilege the mailinglist will be running
under.

The maintainer has to be careful to use an umask of 007 while editing in
his mailinglist directory.  This allows the mailinglist-programs to function
while still limiting access to all mailinglist files to *one* person only
(the maintainer).


2. Remote maintenance of mailinglists
   ----------------------------------

To facilitate remote maintenance of some mailinglists by their maintainers
I have created the .bin/x_command script.  It parses mails sent to the
-request address and can execute some administrative commands.

The mail should be sent to the -request address of a mailinglist and
should contain a field in the header looking like this:

X-Command: joe@somewhere.edu password command

"command" can be anything of the following:

	subscribe mailaddress
	unsubscribe mailaddress
	checkdist mailaddress		To multigram-match mailaddress to
					the list (showing the eight best
					matches)
	showdist			To list the distfile
	showlog				To list the log
	wipelog				To clear the log
	help				To show this command summary
	info				Ditto

The exact fieldname defaults to "X-Command", but can be customised to
whatever you want.

The password defaults to "password", but can/should be changed.

The "joe@somewhere.edu" is always the mail address of the maintainer.  Note
that this has to match what was specified on the command line of
"createlist" when the list was created.

Note that the X-Command: field has to be part of the header, when it's
in the body of the mail, it has no effect.

Anytime an X-Command: mail has been processed, the results will be
mailed back to the maintainer of the list, and the X-Command: field
will have been renamed to X-Processed:.

Although this remote-facility is convenient, some might argue that it
presents a security hole.  Well, in order to make this hole as small as
possible, you can keep the password secret.  Also, the exact mailaddress
of the maintainer might not be publicly known.	You can simply change
the X-Command field into something else like X-MyCommand.  Above all, since
faking mail is a well known possibility it would be ridiculous to take
more precautions than these.  Besides, if someone indeed manages to sneek in
a bogus X-Command:, it will never go unnoticed since the mailing list
maintainer (and only the maintainer) will always receive the X-Processed:
mail.

For your convenience, a sample script "doxcommand" is present in the
SmartList/examples directory.  It can be used to easily generate these
X-Command mails.  Do remember to read-protect this script once the password
has been changed.


3. Customisation
   -------------

The mailinglists can be customised in several ways:

- For all the lists:
	- Since all the lists initially share the same help.txt, subscribe.txt,
	  unsubscribe.txt, rc.init, rc.submit and rc.request files
	  (hardlinked), any change to them will affect all lists.
	- Since all the lists have the .bin directory in their PATH, any
	  change to one of the Bourne shell scripts in there will affect
	  them all.
- Per list:
	- Every list directory contains an "rc.custom" rcfile which can
	  be edited to your hearts content to customise certain parameters
	  for this list only.
	- Small local customisations can be realised by uncommenting one
	  or more of the RC_LOCAL_* assignments in rc.custom.
	  You then have to create the appropriate rc.local* file in which
	  you can put any commands you'd like (e.g. adding a general signature
	  or disclaimer to every outgoing submission).
	- For graver customisation you can remove the hardlink (using
	  .bin/delink for example) to any of the files in a list directory and
	  provide that list with its own copy in order to edit that to taste.
	- Since the current directory is in the PATH before the .bin
	  directory you can create per-list copies of any of the Bourne shell
	  scripts in .bin which can then be changed without affecting the
	  other lists.
- Per group of lists:
	- The same applies as when customising per list, but you should
	  then hardlink the appropriate files among the group of list
	  directories.

By default the scripts create and use hardlinks in various places.  You are
completely free to change some or all into symbolic links instead (or
substitute "ln" with "ln -s" in some scripts).
Some editors have a habit of moving the file you were editing to a backup
name and writing out a new copy in its place.  This can cause problems if
the editor is unaware of the symbolic or hard links in place.  You should
make sure that the editor is aware of the link and preserves it, even after
the file has been edited (for people using emacs: try setting
backup-by-copying-when-linked to true).
By using the "led" script instead of calling your editor directly you
will be timely warned of anything your editor broke.

If you are not using the remote-maintenance facility and you start editing
or customising scripts/files by hand, then you should make sure that there
doesn't arrive any mail to those lists that are affected by your changes.
The best way to do this is by using the command "led" whenever you want
to edit a SmartList governed file.  Led will take care of all the necessary
locking for any file, led can also be used to edit non-SmartList files.

If you don't use "led" but still would like to put incoming mails on hold
temporarily, then you can do this:

- for all the lists by creating the file:	.etc/rc.lock
- only for one list by creating the file:	rc.lock
  in the list directory of that list.

The .bin/flist command checks to see if these rc.lock files exist AND are
not older than 17 minutes before delivering the mail.  So, if you create
an rc.lock file, mails to that (or all) lists will stall for the next
17 minutes.  If you need more time, touch the file every so often.
You should remove the rc.lock files again after finishing your editing.

If you would like to change the -dist alias (used to distribute the
mail to the subscribers) into something less well known, go right ahead,
but remember to change the corresponding assignment to listdist.  For
completeness sake one should also correct the createlist and removelist
scripts in that case.  If you are using chopdist to expand the dist-file,
then you don't even need a -dist alias at all.


3a.Digest processing
   -----------------

You can configure a list to send out digests of accumulated submissions.
In order to do so, simply uncomment the appropriate assignment to
digest_flag in rc.init (if you want all lists to be digested) or rc.custom
(if you only want this list to be digested).  Digests are then sent out
every so often depending on size and age of the accumulated messages.

The conditions for sending out a digest are checked during the arrival
of every submission.  If, however, traffic on the list sometimes is very low
(i.e. less often than the maximum age of a digest) a digest could be laying
around for longer than the specified maximum period (3 days by default).

In order to make sure that the digest gets sent out anyway, you should be
running the .bin/cronlist program every so often.  The recommended
procedure is to create a cron job (under the list account) that contains
something like the following entry:

0 6 * * * /home/list/.bin/cronlist

The cronlist script can be customised to taste (maybe you'll need to
adjust the setting of the PATH variable).
Beware: call cronlist with an absolute or relative path, do not rely on
PATH to find it for you (cronlist uses $0 to find the location of the
lists it is responsible for).

By default, cronlist will run the flush_digests program.
By using the above listed crontab entry, you will ensure that at six o'clock
in the morning all the overdue digests will be sent out.

Flush_digests normally checks the age of the digest and does not send it
out until it is overdue.  If you want to force flush_digests to send out
a digest of a particular list, you can create the file ".digest.force" in
that list's directory.	During the next run of flush_digests, it will
remove .digest.force and push out the digest (if any) regardless of its age.

If you create a file named digest.admin in either the main directory of
the digested list or in the archive/latest directory belonging to it, it
will be picked up by the next flush_digests and included up front to the
actual digest under the heading "Administrivia".
The archive/latest/digest.admin file digested list will be automatically
removed after the digest has been pushed out.
The digest.admin file in the main directory of the digested list will not be
removed and is included in every digest.

If you want to give your subscribers the choice of receiving digests or not.
This is what you can do:

	Create two lists.  E.g. if your list would be called "thelist", then
	you have the `real' list called "thelist" (created and used like
	a regular list) and the `digested' list called "thelist-d".

	In the distfile of thelist you should include thelist-d as one of
	the subscribers.  In the rc.custom file of thelist-d you should
	edit the assignment to undigested_list to read
	"undigested_list =	thelist@$domain".

	After you've done this, you're all set.	 People that want digests
	simply subscribe to thelist-d and people that don't, subscribe to
	thelist.


3b.Restricting subscriptions
   -------------------------

There are three ways in which you can restrict who can subscribe to a list:
- You can put the addresses of unwanted subscribers on the so-called reject-
  list (the `reject'-file).
- You can create a program (e.g. a shell script) called "subscreen".  It must
  be executable and will receive the mail address of the prospective subscriber
  as the first argument.  If subscription for that address is allowed, the
  program must return with exitcode zero.  If subscription is disallowed,
  simply return with exitcode one.  A sample program is provided in the
  examples directory.
- You can completely disable automatic subscription by uncommenting the
  appropriate "auto_subscribe" line in rc.custom.
- You can completely disable automatic unsubscription by uncommenting the
  appropriate "auto_unsubscribe" line in rc.custom.


3c.Restricting submissions
   -----------------------

You can restrict submissions to people on the accept-list (the `accept'-file).
Mail from anyone else will be passed on to the maintainer instead of being
submitted.  To enable this you have to uncomment the appropriate
"foreign_submit" line in rc.custom.  By default the accept file is hardlinked
to the dist file (i.e. if submissions are restricted, only subscribers
can do so).  If you want to allow only an even more select group, delink the
accept file and edit it to taste.  If you'd like to have both the dynamic
accept file and a static one, create a new file "accept2", it will be
searched in addition to the regular accept file.

Beware that using an accept file is incompatible with having an owner- alias
for this list (procmail administered lists do not need the owner- alias
anyway).

If, in addition to notifying the maintainer you want an automated reply
to be generated to the submitter which was not in the accept file, then you
can accomplish this by simply creating an accept.txt file.  Its contents
will (like the contents of the help.txt file) be returned to the submitter.

This feature is not the same as a moderated list, the two features can be
used accumulatively.


3d.Auto subscription on first submission
   -------------------------------------

Instead of rejecting submissions by people not on the accept (dist) list,
you can enable "force_subscribe".  This will cause people submitting
mails to the list to be autosubscribed to the list if they were not in the
dist file.


3e.Autosending files to new subscribers
   ------------------------------------

You can create a file named "subscribe.files".	It can contain any
number of archive-server commands.  The results (i.e. the files requested)
will be sent to the new subscriber.


3f.Moderated lists
   ---------------

First create a file named "moderators", it should contain the fully
qualified mail addresses of all the moderators for this list (i.e. just
local usernames are not sufficient, at least include an @host or host! ).
Then uncomment the appropriate "moderated_flag" line in rc.custom.

>From then on all mail that does not contain an
"Approved: the_address_of_one_of_the_moderators" field is forwarded to
all the moderators.

One of the moderators should then resend the mail to the list after adding
an "Approved: his_own_address" field to the header (and possible editing
the contents of the mail).  It will be no problem if several moderators
resubmit the same submission concurrently, since the mailinglist will
filter out duplicates anyway (i.e. only the first one will go out and
be archived).


3g.List of lists
   -------------

If you want people to be able to get an overview of which lists are
publicly available at your site, you can have your listmaintainers create
a file called "info.txt" in their respective list directory.  This info.txt
file should contain a short description of the purpose and main topic of
this particular list.

You can then setup a command like examples/gatherinfo in crontab to collect
all these various info.txt files once a day.

The thus gathered info.txt files can be placed in a directory which can
be accessed by a gopher or ftp server, or, you can put them into the
archive directory of a procmail-managed mail-archive server (e.g. under
the mail-alias "metalist").


3h.Positively discriminate certain daemons
   ---------------------------------------

SmartList usually does not accept submissions or subscriptions from daemons.
If you'd like to make an exception for some, you can do this by tuning
the daemon_bias variable.  A sample template can be found in the rc.init
file.  This variable can of course be set in the rc.init, rc.custom or
rc.local files.	 Instead of directly specifying a weight and a regexp, you
can just specify a weight.  You'll then have to make sure that the variable
is set only when mail from your special daemons arrives.


3i.Default help text replies
   -------------------------

By uncommenting the appropriate "auto_help" line in the rc.custom file the
list will respond to every undecipherable request message as if it requested
help.  Messages that will still get through to the maintainer are those:
- that seem to come from a daemon.
- which look like a reply.

Depending on the typical audience you have on the list, enabling this might
not be a good idea.


3j.Unsubscribe assistance
   ----------------------

By uncommenting the appropriate "unsub_assist" line in the rc.custom file
you can turn on the unsubscribe assistance.  If the someone is trying to
unsubscribe from the list, but his mailaddress could not be found, he
will receive back a number of multigram matches (determined by the value
of unsub_assist) between his unsubscribe message and the dist file.

If you'd like to enable this feature, please keep the following points
in mind:
- People can get excerpts of the dist file this way.
- Malevolent individuals might become encouraged to unsubscribe lots
  of people from your list.  This will not go by unnoticed, of course.
  It will be logged and the innocent subscribers will receive a copy
  of the unsubscribe request they didn't send.	Nevertheless, it can cause
  considerable inconvenience.


3k.Exploding other (non-SmartList) lists
   -------------------------------------

A SmartList list can easily be used to function as a local exploder for
a larger mailinglist.  The advantages over using a regular alias are
threefold:
- (Un)subscription is handled automatically.
- Bounce messages go to the local exploder list (instead of the larger
  mailinglist which really is not interested in your mail problems with
  some local aliases).
- Misdirected administrative requests are filtered out of the regular
  submission channel.

If the larger mailinglist you are exploding locally is a SmartList list
as well, then there are no special precautions to take at all.
If the larger mailinglist is not managed by SmartList, misdirected
administrative requests will be caught *and* handled by the local list;
if this "handling" turns out to be a problem you can turn it off
by uncommenting the appropriate "pass_diverts" variable in rc.custom
(this will cause misdirected administrative requests to be caught but
then passed on to the maintainer verbatim).


3l.Schematic overview of what goes on behind the scenes
   ----------------------------------------------------

Suppose you have two entries in the aliases file, one for thelist@domain
and one for thelist-request@domain.

Whenever mail arrives for either address, the following happens:
	- flist is started suid root with thelist as its argument
		- changes its current directory to that of the (internally
		  hardcoded) main list directory
		- changes its uid and gid to that of the (internally
		  hardcoded) list account
		- changes its current directory to that of thelist
		- waits until both ../.etc/rc.lock and rc.lock are gone or
		  are old enough (17 minutes)

Then, if it was a regular submission to thelist@domain:
	- flist execs procmail with rcfile rc.submit
		- pulls in rc.init that sets up the defaults
		- pulls in rc.custom that overrides some defaults (if any)
		- checks the submission format
			- if needed it now checks:
				- the accept list
				- the moderators list (Approved:)
			- checks the msgid cache for duplicate submissions
			- if needed does digest processing (and stop)
		- archives the mail
		- munges the header of the mail to taste
		- fires off sendmail to send the mail to thelist-dist@domain
	- If the mail was an administrative request, it does not get
	  passed on to the list, instead, procmail pulls in rc.request

But, if it was an administrative mail for thelist-request@domain:
	- flist execs procmail with rcfile rc.request
		- pulls in rc.init that sets up the defaults
		- pulls in rc.custom that overrides some defaults (if any)
		- performs the necessary actions, depending on the content
		- if the content was undecipherable, it gets passed on to
		  the maintainer of thelist

If there are grave system failures during all this, the catch-all script
rc.post will kick in and make sure that the mail is stashed away somewhere
or forwarded to the maintainer, whatever works.	 This to ensure that no
mail gets lost.


4. The archive server
   ------------------

All mail (except mail being forwarded from another mailinglist) sent to any
of the lists is archived.  The archiving is fairly straightforward.
E.g. if you have a list called "scuba", then all submissions are archived
in scuba/archive/latest/.  The mails will be stored one-mail-per-file each.
The files will be numbered.

Now, normally, only the last two mails will be kept around, the others
are periodically removed.  This in order to keep down the archiving costs
for people with limited diskspace.  To change the size of the archive-history
edit the rc.custom file.  To get more sophisticated archiving, like grouping
submissions monthly, you should either create a cron job or edit the
.bin/arch_trunc file.

The archive server can be accessed per mailinglist by sending mail
to the -request address with the following Subject:

	Subject: archive

The body of the mail or the rest of the subject line can then be
filed with requests to the archive server.  It basically understands
five commands:

	get file ...
	ls directory ...
	egrep case_insensitive_regular_expression file ...
	maxfiles nnn
	help

The archive server does a thorough check on the commands and the files
that are requested.  This to ensure that it does not access any files
outside the "scuba/archive" directory.	Any text-file that you put in
the "scuba/archive" directory (or any of its subdirectories) can now be
retrieved by the archive commands.

If a file requested via the archive server starts with a header that begins
with `Content-Type:', then the file is sent out as is, without encapsulation.
This allows you to prepare the files in special formats that are directly
supported by the recipient's mailuser agent.  The leading Content-Type: and
any immediately following fields will become part of the header.

All other files are MIME-encapsulated before transmission.  You should take
a look at /home/list/.bin/mimencap.local if you want to extend or customise
the recognised file types.

The MIME-encapsulation is automatic and depends on the availability of the
metamail package in the PATH defined in rc.init.  The programs from this
package which need to be available are: mimencode and splitmail.
If mimencode is not found on the PATH, the files will be sent out with a
standard wrapper around them.

You can switch from MIME-encoding to uuencoding by applying the
appropriate patch from .examples/uuencode.dif.

If you put links in the "scuba/archive" tree, you can allow the archive
server to retrieve files from other parts of the filesystem.

The whole archive server can be found in the .bin/arch_retrieve script.
The archive server can be extended with arbitrary commands via the
examples/retrieve.local script that comes with the distribution.


4a.Sending files to the archive server
   -----------------------------------

The archive server as installed with SmartList does not directly support
the receipt and storage of files.
What you can do is look in the at the rcfile script .examples/putfile.
It provides you with all you'd need to receive and store files.


4b.Restricting access to the archive server
   ----------------------------------------

You can restrict archive access to people on the accept-lists
(the `accept' and `accept2'-file).  Mail from anyone else will be passed on
to the maintainer instead of being passed to the archive server.  To enable
this you have to uncomment the appropriate "restrict_archive" line in
rc.custom.


5. The format of the dist file
   ---------------------------

You do not need to know this, unless you edit the dist file by hand or want
to incorporate an existing list of addresses.

In order to distribute incoming submissions the dist file is fed to sendmail
with the regular :include: alias.  So the format of this file must
be in accordance with what sendmail would expect.  In addition to that
this file is searched and edited by multigram in order to find particular
subscribers.  The format which multigram expects is a bit more rigid than
what sendmail allows.

The following conditions apply:
- One subscriber per line.
- Empty lines are allowed.
- The mail address of the subscriber must be the first word on the line.
- Comments may follow the address (but separated from the address by
  at least one whitespace character).
- Everything preceding the line containing:
	(Only addresses below this line can be automatically removed)
  is write protected from changes by multigram (i.e. these addresses can
  never be automatically/accidentally unsubscribed).
- If the line:
	(Only addresses below this line can be automatically removed)
  is not present at all, automatic unsubscriptions to this list are impossible.
- Whenever multigram automatically removes an address from the list, it
  rewrites the dist file `in situ'.  This means that the dist file will be
  contracted at that point, any excess slack at the end will be overwritten
  by newlines (i.e. the dist file never shrinks, this because ANSI-C does not
  provide a truncate() command of some kind).  I choose to write in situ in
  order to avoid copying the dist file every time it changes (a real life
  saver if the list grows too big).
- Multigram always adds new subscribers on the line immediately following the
  last filled entry in the dist file.

Some sample entries (the preferred format):
	joe@some.where
	joe@some.where (some comment)
	joe@some.where (some comment) (some more comments)

Depreciated, but allowed:
	<joe@some.where>
	<joe@some.where> some comment
	<joe@some.where> (some comment)

Not allowed by multigram (although sendmail doesn't mind):
	(some comment) joe@some.where
	some comment <joe@some.where>


6. Multigram and the thresholds in rc.init/rc.custom
   -------------------------------------------------

The rc.init and rc.custom scripts define some threshold values:

	match_threshold, off_threshold, reject_threshold, submit_threshold.

These values are fed to multigram as a cut-off value with which to decide
if a certain mail address is on a list.
The higher the threshold, the better the match must be.	 The thresholds
have a scale from -16383 to 32766.  This means that, for instance a threshold
of 30730 can be used to find only mailaddresses that are almost verbatim
on the list.  A value of 24476 on the other hand allows for some error
(like mailaddresses munged by gateways etc.) in finding matches to the
list.

The values 30730 and 24476 are somewhat arbitrary values which seem
to work well for the particular problems at hand.

To get a feeling for the values computed by multigram you can do
the following test:

	Create a file with the same format as the distfile, fill it with
	any number of addresses you like (e.g. you could take an existing
	distfile).
	Now make a copy of this `distfile' and alter some of the addresses
	a bit (like omit one character, or add some gateway information,
	switch two words, change it into an uucp address, etc.).
	Next you should call up multigram with the following command line:

		multigram -l-16000 -b300 pseudo_distfile <altered_distfile

	Multigram will display up the 300 best matches it found after
	crossreferencing altered_distfile and pseudo_distfile.
	The output produced by multigram can be disected as follows:

		lineno. name1 goodness name2

	Lineno. and name1 refer to the line number in pseudo_distfile which
	contains the mailaddress name1.	 Goodness is the metric that
	corresponds to the aforementioned threshold values, and name2 is
	the matching mailaddress from altered_distfile (which is usually
	the incoming mail).

	Once you get the hang of it you can play around a bit with the
	entries in altered_distfile by mutilating them more and more in
	order to see what multigram makes of it (try inserting some non-
	existing addresses as well).


7. Choplist & sendmail
   -------------------

There are two ways of distributing the message to the addresses listed
in the dist file: either directly through sendmail and the :include:
alias expansion, or indirectly, through choplist which does the
expansion itself and calls up sendmail on suitable chunks.

By default, choplist takes care of the expansion, uncomment the appropriate
alt_sendmail environment variable in rc.init to revert to standard sendmail
expansion.

Choplist tries to make sure that even for big lists, the alias expansion
goes as swiftly as possible and several sendmails will be delivering the
mail to the subscribers concurrently.  The various limits that can be
imposed on this process can be tuned in the rc.init file.

Most sendmails will do a worse job without choplist as a preprocessor.

A side effect of using choplist as a preprocessor is that there is no need for
a -dist alias anymore.


8. FTP addresses & the SmartList mailinglist
   -----------------------------------------

A recent version can be picked up at various comp.sources.misc archives.
The latest version can be obtained directly from the ftp-archive at:

	ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de

as (g)zipped tar file:	   /pub/packages/procmail/SmartList.tar.gz
as compressed tar file:	   /pub/packages/procmail/SmartList.tar.Z

There exists a dedicated mailinglist for SmartList users, send your
subscription requests to:

		SmartList-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de

For procmail related questions not specific to the SmartList package
you can also write to the procmail mailinglist, send your subscription
requests to:

		procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de

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> Also, the mailing list stuff is starting to happen now. I don't
> know how  long it will take to install and debug, but now I can
> say with confidence "watch for an announcement soon."

Good!  You folx are amazing.   Thanks for keeping me in mind re
the new lists.  As soon as its ready  we want one  called  IU610.
As to who will be the `list owner' ,  I imagine it would have to
be me/ or Corin if he wants to do it.  Maybe both of us could have
the password and share the tasks.

Most IWW health workers are not yet online.  There is no way we
are going to put them together using the snail mail.

I think we are going to have to build part of our initial IU base
via new members made from direct e-contact.   We have to rely on
the GOB, IW,  and second hand contact via online delegates,  to
get the existing members involved in the IU.  So that means only
about 1/3 to 1/2 of them will pay attention,  and half of those
won't have their dues paid up.

It would be interesting  to see which industries the online
members ARE concentrated in.
-0--- I look forward to hear about your proposals re Re
generalizing the constitution.    I hope you will release them
prior to assembly to allow time for discussions.  Mike D'Amore has
written to say he wants an Assembly discussion on the matter,  but
he offered no concrete proposals of his own, and seems to think we
shouldn't talk about it until we get there.  I have also heard
that various other amendments may be brought to Assembly by other
people.   So it will make for a lot of confusion unless we can
circulate these proposals in advance.

I am in favor of streamlining and updating,  however I am wary of
piecemeal changes that do not consider the inter-relationships
between different structures and procedures.

For example,  in recent years,  the power of legislation was taken
away from Assembly  [for good reason since it is not
representative].   But along the same time,  membership
referendums -- now the ONLY legislative power --  were cut back to
3x/year [to expedite office work].  So the combined effect was a
significant reduction of the union's ability to make decisions.

We have to remember that the Assembly legislative power,  and the
referendum legis-- power,  were two alternatives, one the backup
of the other.   In the case of the organization's mail referendums
getting screwed up, say if GHQ was raided and confiscated for
example,  the convention could still run the organization.   And
in case no Assembly could be held,  the referendum was there.

So when we take Assembly out of the legislative picture,  the
proper thing to do is strengthen the referendums, not weaken
them.

This is just one little example of how things have to be
considered in relation to each other, and not just on their own
merits.   This situation happened, because I evolved the Assembly
change and Bill Meyers designed the referendum change,  unknown to
each other.

--Carlos Lee Ottawa     indwrk@web.apc.org
BH295@Freenet.Carleton.Ca

p.s.  I'm waiting for the details on this `vanilla sex'  that
Harry was talking about in the
GOB !
###


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If you can MIME me (or something) a mail folder with your iww-news archive
in it, I can separate the iww-news messages and incorporate them into the
public archive.


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On Mon, 17 Apr 1995, x341841 wrote:

> If you can MIME me (or something) a mail folder with your iww-news archive
> in it, I can separate the iww-news messages and incorporate them into the
> public archive.
> 
>               
Gnat, I've just been getting these for a week, so I don't have much archived,
and in fact I have not been keeping messages unless I'm presonally interested
or if I am going to post them.  If you want, I can easily save all IWW 
mail in a folder, and then send it to you once a week for archiving.

Is this what you need?  I don't need to use Mime (which is, as I now 
understand it, for sending binary files), I can load all the messages in 
one big email note.

Don't you receive mail from the same mailing list?
I've been receiving quite a bit of mail from iww-news, not all is worth 
archiving, but I guess you would be going through them and editing out
the unnecessary - I'm not clear about this at all.

Write me with details of what you want me to do, I will start saving this 
morning, Apr 17.

Mitch X344247

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On Mon, 17 Apr 1995, Mitch Rice wrote:
> Gnat, I've just been getting these for a week, so I don't have much archived,
> and in fact I have not been keeping messages unless I'm presonally interested
> or if I am going to post them.  If you want, I can easily save all IWW 
> mail in a folder, and then send it to you once a week for archiving.

Sorry Mitch, I was writing to Deke, who has all the posts to iww.news from
the beginning -- I was just cc'ing the message to you so you'd stay
informed about our little projects.  I can stop cc'ing stuff if it's
distracting. 


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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 11:26:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jon Beasley-Murray <jpb8@acpub.duke.edu>
To: marxism list <marxism@jefferson.village.virginia.edu>
Subject: action alert (fwd)

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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 23:15:32 +0800 (WST)
From: Adam Bandt <bandt@cleo.murdoch.edu.au>
Subject: action alert (fwd)
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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 05:37:55 -0600
From: mark selden <ms44@cornell.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <psn@csf.colorado.edu>
Subject: action alert

>Subj:  ACTION ALERT: CULTURAL ACTIVIST RON SAKOLSKY ARRESTED
>Date:  Wed, Apr 12, 1995 2:54 PM MST
>
>Ron Sakolsky is a board member of Alliance for Cultural Democracy, author,
>and long time cultural activist. I urge all of you to circulate this alert
>and write letters. For those of you who know Ron you will immediately
>understand the absurdity of this arrest, Ron is dedicated to non violence
>while not bowing to the emerging fascistic powers. - Michael Schwartz - ACD/
>Editor: Cultural Democracy Journal
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>    CAMPUS FREE SPEECH ACTION ALERT!
>
>          Dennis Fox
>
>  On March 15th Ron Sakolsky and I went to hand out leaflets on
>the Sangamon State University (SSU) campus where we teach. Before we
>knew it, the campus police had arrested both of us on a variety of unfounded
>charges. We need your help. Especially Ron.
>
>  Ron is a tenured associate professor of public affairs and labor
>relations long controversial in Springfield because of his consistent
>activism. For 23 years he has taught courses at SSU on everything from
>Organizing for Peace and Justice to Workplace Democracy to World Music. I've
>been here seven years, and am a tenured associate professor in
>legal studies and psychology. I teach things like Law and Inequality and,
>this semester, a seminar in Conservative Efforts to Reclaim the Law. A few
>years ago Ron and I team-taught a course called the Columbus Quincentennial:
>Hype and History From 1492 to 1992.
>
>  Here's what actually happened last month to Ron and me. We went
>to give leaflets to people going to a mayoral debate because one of the
>candidates for Springfield mayor was State Senator Karen Hasara, who had
>co-sponsored a recently passed union-busting bill. (As part of the
>"restructuring" of higher education in Illinois, the legislature and
>governor, on the Republican "fast track," had just passed legislation to
>merge SSU with the University of Illinois system. The legislation
>included a provision to destroy the SSU faculty's collective bargaining
>rights.) The leaflets pointed out Hasara's role and the media's failure
>to report the story, and we listed a few questions we hoped the audience
>might ask during the debate.
>
>  I was arrested when I refused to stop leafleting in the hallway
>outside the auditorium. An SSU employee and someone from WICS-TV Channel 20
>instructed SSU police officers that no one was allowed to hand out what they
>called "campaign literature" at what was characterized as an
>"invitation-only" event (Channel 20, Springfield's only TV station,
>reported later that night that we had been taken away "for violating a
>ban on leafleting"). An officer ordered me to stop or leave the building. He
>also grabbed leaflets out of the hands of a few people who had taken one.
>After 15 minutes of intermittent warnings, he said I couldn't even stand in
>the almost empty hallway with the leaflets "visible." Then I was handcuffed
>and taken away, charged with criminal trespass to state property (the cop
>told me I no longer had permission to be there) and interference with a
>police officer (I never did find out what that was about, since the police
>report didn't say I had done anything disruptive).
>
>  Ron Sakolsky's case went much differently. He was inside the
>auditorium, quietly handing leaflets to people who had gotten there
>early. When the police discovered him inside, Ron offered to leave the
>auditorium and join me in the hallway, but the cop told him he'd have to
>leave the building instead. So Ron stayed where he was, leaflets in hand.
>Without telling him he was under arrest and without warning him they would
>use force, the police grabbed Ron, twisted his arm, and began to push him
>out. Ron says he then told the cop he would leave peacefully, but the cop
>just twisted his arm tighter. In pain, as the physical assault intensified,
>Ron tried to get loose. Now he's charged with aggravated battery, a felony.
>
>  I'm in pretty good shape legally. When the State's Attorney read
>the police account of my actions, he decided not to file charges. That
>police report makes interesting reading, by the way. It makes you wonder
>why SSU's campus police force thought anyone could be arrested for what they
>say I did.
>
> Ron's in greater danger. He's scheduled to appear in court on
>April 20th to find out what the state has in mind for him. If he goes to
>trial, he faces possible prison time if convicted; at the very least, he
>faces mounting legal fees. That seems pretty excessive, considering the
>whole incident began when the university's poorly trained police force
>improperly prevented us from handing out leaflets. (Perhaps not
>coincidentally, Ron and I led the opposition on campus a year and a half ago
>when the President decided to replace the campus security guards
>with armed police. Also disturbingly, although two years ago the
>Administration promised the campus community that there would be a
>police review committee with well-defined complaint procedures, that
>promise was not kept. There are no still campus procedures to
>investigate police actions. The Administration's decision to refer the
>matter only to the State Police for investigation clearly does not
>fulfill the earlier commitment to campus-based review.)
>
> We think this incident relates to a number of disturbing trends
>across the United States and elsewhere: Infringement of free speech and
>academic freedom. Efforts to hamper labor union organizing. "Restructuring"
>of higher education. Unleashing the police to prevent
>dissent. One-sided mainstream news coverage.
>
> This could happen to you next.
>
>       HERE'S HOW TO HELP
>
>PUBLIC PRESSURE IS URGENTLY NEEDED BEFORE RON'S APRIL 20TH COURT DATE!
>
>(AND AFTER THAT IF THE STATE AND UNIVERSITY PURSUE FURTHER ACTION!)
>
>SSU President Naomi Lynn has the power to get the State's Attorney to
>drop charges. Sangamon State is on the verge of becoming the University
>of Illinois at Springfield--a controversial transition that provides the
>context for much that happens here these days. A show of support from
>around the country and beyond, for Ron in this specific case and for the
>broader right to free speech on a college campus, would help.
>
>PLEASE SEND E-MAIL MESSAGES ENCOURAGING SSU TO DO THE RIGHT THING!
>Send to:
>
>Naomi Lynn, SSU President    lynn@eagle.sangamon.edu
>
>CONSIDER SENDING COPIES TO:
>
>Stanley Ikenberry     sikenber@uiuc.edu
>  (current U of I System President)
>
>James Stukel         James.J.Stukel@uic.edu
>(soon-to-be U of I System President)
>
>Doug Anderson, SSU's Lawyer danderso@eagle.sangamon.edu
>
>PLEASE ALSO SEND ME A COPY SO THAT WE CAN KEEP YOU POSTED!
>
>  Dennis Fox fox@eagle.sangamon.edu
>
>FOR MORE INFORMATION FROM ME OR OUR NOW-FORMING SUPPORT GROUP,
>MY E-MAIL ADDRESS IS fox@eagle.sangamon.edu
>
>        PLEASE FORWARD THIS TO APPROPRIATE E-MAIL LISTS!!!!
>
>--------------------------------------------------------
>Dennis Fox                                 (217)786-6535 office
>Associate Professor of Legal Studies     (217)786-7279 fax
>Associated Faculty, Psychology
>Sangamon State University
>Springfield, IL 62794-9243               fox@eagle.sangamon.edu

>
>





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From 75211.2515@compuserve.com Tue Apr 18 20:49:33 1995
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From: bonnie frontino <75211.2515@compuserve.com>
To: Deke Motif Nihilson <deke@fido.wps.com>
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Hi guy! Hear you're at a concert tonite. Hope you're having a good time. Just
got home from work not long ago and couldn't wait to tell you about a long
conversation I had with a midwife student this afternoon. Karen is an old friend
from Buncombe Co. Health Dept. days as she's already a family nurse
practitioner. Hadn't seen her in a number of yrs. so we talked non-stop for hrs.
Anyway she had pictures of her trip to Mexico last summer and guess where she
stayed for awhile? - in Chiapas. Just happened that she was there when the folks
were having a good old fashioned peace demonstration and 150,000 people showed
up. Yep - all those zeros are correct. She's real anxious to talk to you, but
doesn't have internet access yet. So I told her you might be able to forward to
me any news you get on the revolution there and I can print it out for her.
She's writing an article for a political newspaper in Burnsville, a mtn. just on
the other side of the Blue Ridge.

The other thing we talked about that I thought you'd be interested in is the
union history of Gastonia. Seems there was a "communist" labor union in the
mills there back in the 30's, the sheriff was shot and killed on the streets,
and that's why the mill workers  is so opposed to unions now. She actually grew
up in Gastonia and lived there until she was 16; said all this was taught in the
schools. So I figure I can go to the library there and see what I can find out
for you. She's really a cool woman - Berkinstock folk. Is raising 3 kids on her
own, has had a bout with thyroid cancer and still managing to do the community
based midwifery program ( 10 times harder than I went through). So I'm glad that
she's finally getting to the end of the program and that I get to work with her.


Gonna close. I have a whopping sinus infection and feel like shit and am really
tired. So I'll close for now. Be well, do good work and keep in touch.   Love
and hugs......Bonnie


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Fellow Workers,

	Ron Sakolsky, a teacher at Sangamon State University in 
Springfield, Illinois, and long-standing IWW member is faced with 
prosecution for passing out leaflets during a campaign appearance of a 
union-busting politician on the SSU campus.  A campus cop decided to get 
rough with Ron while ejecting him from the building.  Ron didn't 
appreciate having his arm twisted by the cop, and fought back.  Now the 
SSU authorities have charged Ron with assaulting the cop.  The hearing on 
the charges is April 20.  Ron is asking people to E-mail the president of 
the university, asking SSU President Naomi Lynn to drop the charges.

	E-mail her at: lynn@eagle.sangamon.edu
	Send a copy to: fox@eagle.sangamon.edu


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Fellow workers,
Please find appended, my letter to the President of Sangamon State
University.
An injury to one is an injury to all,
Mike Ballard



Don't just criticize; get yourself organized in the One Big Union.
Join the Wobblies! e-mail the IWW:  iww@igc.apc.org








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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 12:08:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Ballard <miballar@elaine36.Stanford.EDU>
To: lynn@eagle.sangamon.edu




Dear President Lynn:

It has come to my attention that one of your faculty members is 
being charged with assaulting a police officer on your campus.
My understanding of the situation leading up to the alleged assault
is that the faculty member in question, Mr. Ron Sakolsky, was 
exercising his Constitutionally protected right to express his opinion
by distribution flyers on campus, when a police officer, attempting
to eject him from a campus building used excessive force, twisting
Mr. Sakolsky's arm, causing him great pain.  In an attempt to 
free himself and avoid suffering further injury, Mr. Sakolsky exposed
himself to the false charge of assault.  To my mind assault is 
synonymous with attack and to charge him so makes a mockery of the
law, not to mention the English language.  It reminds me of the sort
of tactics used by the officers who arrested Rodney King in Ventura
County a couple of years ago.  While Mr. King was being beaten
with night sticks, he was videotaped with his hands upraised in a position
suggesting that he was attempting to ward off the blows and protect himself
from further injury.  At his trial, he too was charged with assault.
While this case does not sound as severe as Mr. King's the attempt to 
charge a victim of excessive police force with assault sounds all too
familiar.
I respectfully request that you use your influence to have these charges
against Mr. Sakolsky dropped.

Sincerely,

Michael T. Ballard
Library Specialist
Green, Library
Stanford, CA 94306
 








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FW's,

Can someone help this Canadian FW out?

Mike B)





---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 11:44:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Julian Prior <julianp@sfu.ca>
To: 1-union@lever.com
Subject: Re: Bob Black, "The Abolition of Work", etc.


Mike Ballard writes:
 
> Just a point of information.  A work titled THE RIGHT TO BE LAZY was
> written by Paul Lafargue around the turn of this century.  In essence,

stuff deleted 

> LAZY is today sold by Charles Kerr Publishing and GREEDY is found in the
> AK Press catalogue; both have my hearty recommendation.
> 
> For the abolition of wage-slavery,
> Mike B)
> Don't just criticize; get yourself organized in the One Big Union.
> Join the Wobblies! e-mail the IWW:  iww@igc.apc.org
>    
 
I picked up a copy of THE RIGHT TO BE LAZY at the weekend and while I 
haven't yet got round to reading Lafargue's 50-odd page piece I did read 
the introduction by Joseph Jablonski and the endpiece by Fred Thompson.  
Both are excellent and worth looking at if you have the 1989 Charles Kerr 
edition.

Does anybody know anything about Jablonski? Apparantly (according to the 
publisher's blurb), he is a "leading figure in the Surrealist Movement." 
Does such a movement still exist in the U.S.?

One passage caught my eye - according to Jablonski:

"Subsequent generations of radicals, however -- and not only in the U.S. 
but throughout the world -- tended to lose sight of Lafargue's 
revolutionary vision of a truly non-repressive society, and to fall back 
into various retrograde mystifications, epitomized by the inherently 
bourgeois demand for "more jobs." With the traditional vocabulary of 
social radicalism monopolized for decades by social democracy and 
stalinism, authentically revolutionary theory was kept alive by the 
various currents of the extreme left: Wobblies, anarchists, "ultra-left" 
Marxists, Wilhelm Reich, the Frankfurt School, and the surrealists." (12)

(I would add others to this anti-work list - perhaps the Situationists 
(Vaniegem certainly), the Italian and U.S. Autonomist tradition (the 
journal Zerowork), early Wages for Housework, the World Socialist 
Movement (direct line from William Morris), the contemporary "marginals 
milieu" (Bob Black, John Zerzan et al.) . . .)

However, what interested me was the next paragraph where Jablonski writes:

"In the 1960's the Black insurrections, wildcat strikes, the "New Left," 
the women's liberation movement and the "counterculture" brought this 
hidden revolutionary tradition (or complex of traditions) to the fore 
[Jablonski adds the ecology movement]" (12)

My question is this: Is the link between so-called "new social movements" 
and the anti-statist, anti-market, anti-work tradition (Wobblies et al.) 
as straightforward as Jablonski seems to think it is? Certainly it would 
be nice to think that contemporary feminists, queer liberationists, 
radical people of colour etc. draw upon the anarchist/libertarian 
socialist tradition, and that a healthy dialogue exists (both 
theoretically and practically) between the two. 
However, from what I've seen and read, it seems that, not only do most 
(some?) feminists, black activists etc. continue to be pro-market, 
pro-statist, pro-"more jobs", but most anarchists/libertarian socialists 
from the tradition Jablonski mentions continue to pay scant attention to 
issues of racism, sexism, heterosexism. 

Perhaps I'm wrong - and I hope someone will show me to be so. 

 
Julian Prior
Vancouver, B.C.
julianp@sfu.ca
 
 
 




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From: Fred  Chase <73174.77@compuserve.com>
To: President Naomi Lynn <lynn@eagle.sangamon.edu>
Cc: Stanley Ikenberry <sikenber@uiuc.edu>,
        James Stukel <james.j.stukel@uic.edu>,
        Doug Anderson <danderso@eagle.sangamon.edu>,
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        Fred Chase <73174.77@compuserve.com>
Subject: Ron Sakolsky's Arrest
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Dear President Lynn,

	I have been informed that Ron Sakolsky and Dennis Fox, associate
professors at your University and longtime friends of labor, were recently
arrested by SSU campus police for exercising their right to freedom of speech on
campus.  I'm told that Ron was charged with aggravated battery.
	I'm reminded of a situation in the '60s when a friend of mine of small
stature was charged with resisting arrest and assaulting 40 FBI agents in a
church where a non-violent friend had taken sanctuary.  The judge had a good
laugh and threw the case out.  
	I'm hopeful that you will take action to have the charges dropped in this
case before that point.  It would be sad to see the overzealousness of a campus
police officer lead to a situation which might tarnish the reputation of your
University and those associated with it.

			Respectfully,

			  Fred Chase
			General Secretary/Treasurer
			Industrial Workers of the World
 


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Subject: for submission to GOB
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 03:45:59 GMT
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Fellow workers:

Just had the chance to go through the proposed "organizing manual" submi
to the GOB by Jon Bekken.  For the most part, it reads as though it were
by a person with no real-life organizing experience, who gets his knowle
labor organizing by reading books.  But that is not a surprise, since it
written by a person with no real-life organizing experience, who gets hi
knowledge of labor organizing by reading books.

I am curious as to FW Bekken's credentials to write our new organizing m
How many organizing campaigns has he ever started or participated in?  H
many IWW members has he signed up?  How many Job Shops or Branches has
he helped establish?  Has FW Bekken ever in his entire life ever actuall
of the advice that he gives in this manual into actual practice, with a
of live workers?  Has ANY of this been tested in hard reality?  Or did i
from reading the few books he lists at the end of his manual?

To my knowledge, FW Bekken's sole activities (other than a continuous st
charges against those he doesn't like) have consisted of editing the uni
newspaper and sometimes publishing a newsletter for the union's educatio
workers (all three or four dozen of them).  I find it disturbing that th
of preparing an organizing manual for the IWW has been apparently placed
hands of somebody who has no organizing experience whatsoever, and has n
even dealt with a boss in anger.  And this lack of organizing experience
through clearly and unmistakably in this draft manual.

On the one hand, to put out an organizing manual now, when we have a who
300 members, are wasting our treasury on substandard newspapers and
songbooks, and cannot or will not give realistic support to those organi
campaigns we have NOW, strikes me as being mere self-delusional weiner-
wanking.  On the other hand, however, I am glad to see that the GEB is F
making at least an effort to put out a manual (it's only been two or thr
since I, as a GEB member, introduced a motion to publish an organizing m
and only a year and a half or so since the Lehigh Valley IWW got tired o
and put together its OWN organizing manual, based on our real-life exper
with real-life workers and real-life bosses---the Lehigh Valley IWW is c
ONLY  branch in the entire union that has an actual existing contract wi
employer, which we fought for three years to win).  I do wish the task h
given to some folks with some real-life organizing experience (the bingo
the End Up organizers, Aron's records organizers, Food Bin organizers),
least we now have the opportunity to suggest revisions and changes. Sinc
the LV Branch DO have some real-life experience organizing real live wor
the IWW, and since the LV Branch has already written and printed an
introductory organizing manual (which I notice is not mentioned in the
"references" at the end of FW Bekken's draft), I hope I can inject some
experiences into the organizing manual.  So I'll go through and make my
suggestions.  Hopefully at least some of my suggestions will be seriousl
entertained by the poo-bahs.

In general, part One of the draft looks pretty good to me.  It describes
of organizing quite well.  I don't see any major changes that need to be

Part Two is different.  This is where the real nuts and bolts kind of st
come in, and this section seems short in this department.   The section
point of talking at length about competition with other labor unions in
workplaces.  Puh-leeze.  This is just puffery and self-flattery, and dem
once again the IWW's penchant for self-delusions of grandeur.  I think t
chances that the IWW will anytime in the forseeable future EVER be in a
competitive campaign with any of the UFO-CIA unions is EXTREMELY remote.
We cannot even organize shops effectively now, while we have no such
"competition".  And if we ever DID find ourselves in competition with th
unions, we would get our clocks cleaned in short order.

Whether we choose to admit it to ourselves or not, the IWW has virtually
NOTHING to offer to organizers in the way of support, beyond moral suppo
lots of radical-sounding "resolutions".  In approaching workers to organ
that as a matter of honesty we must be up front with them about that, an
frankly tell them that we are asking them to risk their jobs by organizi
risking getting fired, and that if the organizers ARE fired, or if a str
we can offer no help whatsoever--no lawyers, no strike funds, no financi
nothing.   If it comes down to a real knock-down drag-out fight, with pe
their jobs and big expenses piling up, then these workers are quite fran
off going to the UFO-CIA, which at least has the money to keep them eati
paying the electric bills.  And anybody who thinks we can counter the ap
the UFO-CIA in this area by preaching all the ideological horseshit that
fond of is in for a rude reality check.  In the LV, we have talked to se
workers about unionizing, and have found that, with not a single excepti
couldn't care less about all the anarchism-schmanarchism we  try to bliz
them with, especially if they've just been fired or forced on strike.  A
when the table is empty and the electric is about to be shut off, all th
horseshit means a great deal less than eating.  And yes, even revolution
workers need to eat.

I also think the manual gives too much emphasis on the tactics of direct
and not enough on the "legal" ways of organizing.  This, too, is a resul
enormous capacity for self-delusion and our complete lack of any real-li
organizing experience.  Despite all our rhetoric and wishful thinking, i
hard real world, our much-cherished "direct actions" are NOT a panacea o
sure-fire winning formula.  While they can certainly be effective tactic
have used them ourselves, in too many circumstances, they simply DO NOT
WORK.  And to base our whole organizing strategy on using them, on askin
people to risk their jobs and commit what are very likely illegal action
them to legal hassles and possibly fines and/or prison, without the slig
chance of any legal or financial support from the union, all because tha
"proper" anarchist way to do things, strikes me as being irresponsible,
a betrayal of the working class.

If we are serious about organizing workers, then we must be willing to o
them USING WHATEVER METHOD WORKS, whether or not it is "ideologically
pure".  That includes things like using the NLRB where we can, using the
where we can---whatever it takes, and anybody who isn't willing to do th
because "anarchists don't do that" had best stick to writing for intelle
theorizing magazines and stay the hell out of real labor organizing.  Th
some "let's pretend we're labor organizers" game we are playing here---w
talking about real people who live in real houses with real bills and re
have real kids and real stomachs to feed.  Either we are out to help the
are out to prove that our ideological dicks are bigger than anybody else
are out to help them, then that becomes our sole and only goal, and any
goal becomes secondary.  If we play, we play to win.  We have no right t
these people as guinea pigs to test out our neat-sounding "revolutionary
We have no right whatsoever to intrude into these people's lives and ask
risk their livelihoods just to feed our own rhetorical fantasies about w
revolutionaries" we are.

Workers in the US today aren't organizing and trying to unionize because
want to start The Revolution-- they are organizing because they are bein
fired or don't have enough money to feed their kids.  And whether or not
"should" think that way is quite beside the point.  If we attempt to for
concerns onto them rather than understanding and acting on THEIR concern
then all our talk about "worker self-direction" is just a lot of hot air
become nothing more than closet Leninists who are trying (apparently wit
success) to show the stupid working class what they should REALLY want.
an ideological perspective I find such an attitude intolerable, and from
organizing perspective it will virtually guarantee that nobody will take
organizing efforts seriously, since our only legitimate answer to the le
question "what's in it for me if I join" is "a nice warm rosy feeling th
helping The Revolution".  Most people would rather have a roof over thei
and food on the table.

This is probably my most fundamental criticism of this proposed organizi
manual--it is too heavy on the ideological preaching and too thin on the
nuts and bolts reality of running an organizing campaign.  Organizers mu
flexible, and must be willing to adapt their campaigns to the real conce
workers have.  The "let's trash the fascist state" message might play re
we are trying to organize  the local radical bookstore collective, but i
if you try to organize bingo workers or cafeteria workers with that mess
(Unless, of course, we are willing to openly and frankly admit that we d
the slightest interest in organizing these "real workers", and just want
the "class conscious" who work in radical bookstore collectives---in whi
should stop calling ourselves a "labor union").   If you give people a r
at best you'll get a blank stare and a "Yeh, right, whatever";  at worst
alienate every worker in the place and probably get turned over to the c
FBI.  If we want to organize only radicalized "class-conscious" workers,
frankly admit that and drop all this talk about "one big union" and orga
the workers.  But if we are just gonna organize the ideologically pure,
never grow beyond our current membership, which is not enough to fill up
good-sized movie theatre.  Apparently some people in the IWW are committ
the old Leninist saw, "Better fewer, but better."  I am not.  I am commi
Big Union of ALL the workers--even those who aren't anarchists, or even

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->         Ron Sakolsky, a teacher at Sangamon State University in
-> Springfield, Illinois, and long-standing IWW member is faced with
-> prosecution for passing out leaflets during a campaign appearance of
-> union-busting politician on the SSU campus.  A campus cop decided to
-> rough with Ron while ejecting him from the building.  Ron didn't
-> appreciate having his arm twisted by the cop, and fought back.  Now t
-> SSU authorities have charged Ron with assaulting the cop.  The hearin
.
.
Hey Ron, I know where you can find a good lawyer.  But you're on your
own as far as paying him. . . .
.
.
Lenny Flank
X341341
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Subject: for GOB  Pt 2
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 03:51:19 GMT
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 Apparently some people in the IWW are committed to
the old Leninist saw, "Better fewer, but better."  I am not.  I am commi
Big Union of ALL the workers--even those who aren't anarchists, or even

The draft manual makes a comment to the effect that all of the organizin
campaigns who neglected to preach the "trash the fascist state" stuff we
"uniformly unsuccessful".  Hmmm.  Which campaigns would those be, Jon?
not noticed that any of YOUR ideological preaching has ever organized an
Meanwhile, the LV Branch, which has always focused on real bread and but
issues rather than ideological pie-in-the-sky stuff, has been one of the
successful Branches in recent IWW history, has signed up over 100 member
the union all by itself  (this in a "union" which has not had more than
members at any one time for the past several decades), has obtained majo
national press coverage and exposure for the IWW in its bingo campaign a
campaign on behalf of the Phillips Van Heusen workers in Guatemala, has
a hand in organizing and setting up at least four other IWW groups and
Branches. and currently has the ONLY existing IWW contract in effect wit
employer.  If anybody else can match that record, I'd sure like to see i
way has our organizing method been "uniformly unsuccessful"?  Or does th
consider an organizing campaign "successful" only if workers throw up ba
and start The Revolution?

Even from this ideological point of view, though, ideological preaching
help.  The very best way to radicalize workers, give them a sense of the
power and the ability to utilize that power, is to ORGANIZE them and bea
bosses on some issue.  The Bingo workers started out as ordinary non-lef
mothers and grandmothers.  If we had approached them and said in effect,
we're the IWW and we're here to help you overthrow wage slavery", we wou
been laughed at, tossed out and gotten nowhere with them.  And then we c
have gone off and grumbled about how "those workers are just too stupid
that WE have the answer to all their problems".  Instead, we went to the
said, "We can help you win what YOU want from the boss".  And once we di
them win, they radicalized themselves.  They saw firsthand what labor or
and class struggle is all about, they saw firsthand the power that we ha
we work together, and they learned firsthand who to direct that power ag
how to do it---all without having to listen to any of our preaching or i
screeds.  And now some of the bingo workers are some of the most militan
radical people I know.  After all, people need to learn to crawl before
or even walk.  Revolutionaries are not made overnight, nor are they prod
through marathon sessions of ideological speechifying.  They are made th
ACTION.  And this draft organizing manual, like the IWW itself, is long
and short on ACTION.  It is no wonder that the only people who take us s
are ourselves.

I am not at all saying that we should tone down our radical message or t
should politely avoid mentioning the subject.  I AM saying that such rhe
cannot be made the focus of an organizing campaign.  If you can't organi
around the real tangible issues that working people care about and are w
fight over, then you simply will never be relevant to real live workers,
how fine your ideological rhetoric may be.  The fact that workers are av
IWW in droves proves conclusively that we simply are not relevant to the
can't do a damned thing to help them change the things they want to chan
And we are doing NOTHING to change that.

This leads to the question of what shops we should be attempting to orga
The draft manual mentions that most large unions won't attempt to organi
places with fewer than 20 people (actually, the policy of the UFO-CIA is
attempt anywhere with fewer than 50 people).  And this, I believe, shoul
niche.  These people desperately need to be organized, and nobody is wil
help them (including the IWW, at the moment).  It is a wide-open field w
"competition" from the "real" unions---which fits perfectly with our his
emphasis on organizing those that nobody else bothers to organize.  (Tha
keep the 'Joe Hill Memorial Society' folks happy).  Such an organizing f
us into conflict with bite-sized bosses which we can handle with our ver
resources.  (That should keep the 'fiscal conservative' folks happy.)  S
organizing focus depends upon the person-to-person organizing which we a
at and which is most effective.  And such an organizing strategy allows
organize in a wide variety of industries and workplaces.  (That will kee
serious organizers happy.)  This should be where we focus our organizing
And our organizing manual, rather than being more ideological cheer-lead
the sort that we've all heard before a hundred times, should be a basic,
nonsense nuts and bolts description of exactly how to go about accomplis
this.

There are more suggestions/criticisms/praise that I have for the draft m
but this missive is getting pretty long already, so I'll end it here.  A
those folks out there who haven't seen the Lehigh Valley IWW's "Worker's
to Union Organizing", which has actually been USED in real live successf
organizing campaigns, you can get a copy from the Lehigh Valley IWW, PO
4133, Bethlehem PA  18018.   We ask a token payment of $2.95 per copy, p
$0.75 if you can to cover postage (all proceeds from the sale of LV IWW
directly to the Legal Defense Fund for the bingo lawsuits).  We did offe
opportunity for the GEB to print our organizing manual as official IWW l
to the not-unreasonable condition that a small portion of the money (15
standard author royalties) would go back to the Branch for the Legal Def
Fund.  We were turned down flat.  I think that says a lot about what the
priorities of this "union" are.



For a real live UNION that actually ORGANIZES workers instead of continu
TALKING about it,


Lenny Flank
X341341

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Fred, please print this in the next GOB.  It's an important announcement 
which still remains timely.  Of course, please delete the header.  

Corin Royal Drummond
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Revolutionary Greetings, fellow workers of all genders,

I write to you this evening from the first Union-run Internet node in the
world. This is that of the IWW-- its name is fletcher.iww.org

Being that this is a machine, online 24-hours-a-day, 7-days-a-week means 
several things. Not only can we have secured accounts for members and 
branches that FWs only need to telnet into (a major feature to those of 
us squatting on-line), it also means the whole of the TCP/IP suite, 
including information services like ftp, gopher, www (web pages) and a 
whole lot more.

***warning: techie part!!! If ya don't want the stats, skip ahead!
	...you know how we in th'industry get  *:) ***

fletcher.iww.org is a 386sx with 1/2 gig hard drive, 32 megs of RAM, and 
not much more, running BSDI and using PPP to connect to the Internet, all 
the time, over 14.4 baud modems on either end of a plain old telephone 
line that's been acquired exclusively for this purpose. There's some bugs 
in the new BSDI release, and myself and my fellow workers at TLGnet (who 
have put much work into this too, with full knowledge of what their 
labor's supporting) are working on tracking these things down and fixing 
them. This is nothing unusual for a .0 release. (By The WAy, I don't want 
to get all tecchie on ya, but thought it would behoove us all to know the 
parameters of what's up with this thing).

Our domain (iww.org) is registered with the InterNIC, so it's ours 
forever. The administrative contact is myself, the tech contact (DNS 
server) is TLGnet and the organizational contact is the S.F. Bay Area 
GMB. You can find all this out, from your unix-like environment, by 
giving the command "whois iww.org" (without the quotes).

Tied to this domain name is an eight-bit subnet, and there's more where 
it came from. fletcher's IP address (the name the computers know) is 
204.188.113.1  Eight-bit means we can assign up to 253 more, and build a 
network of computers all tied to each other on the 'net, but still under 
autonomopus control. IE, there could be a flynn.iww.org at 204.188.113.2, 
a hill.iww.org at 204.188.113.3, a little.iww.org at .4 and so on, 
creating an internetwork of IWW presence online. This is a challenge and 
an opportunity ahead of us, one that will blaze a trail for labor and 
bring the IWW well into the 21st century, even if we're meanwhile 
flat-broke (but more on that in a minute). Organized and decentralized, 
like the Internet itself, the wobblies are coming home to the future,
even as we never forget the past from which we come. 

***end of tecchie warning****

Several wobs, in addition to a couple of my TLGnet FWs, already have 
accounts here, and are helping out not only with debugging but also with 
setting up other of the vast array of information services. This is the 
organizing I've been doing lately, and I haven't talked about it so much 
only because it hadn't happened yet, and no use getting folks all 
expectant about something that might not come off!!! But here it is, it's 
ours to have and hold. 
 
Something to check out, as an example of both the possibilities before us 
and the work that needs doing, is our brand-spanking-new web page. You 
can check it out at:  http://iww.org/
There's plenty of room not only for *your* involvement, but also for 
whatever  it is your branch/group/union entity/self wants to tell the 
world, as a wobbly outfit...

In addition to web pages and individual accounts, others are looking to
set up the ftp site, and majordomo, which is a software suite that will
allow for authorized users to set up their own mailing lists, moderated or
unmoderated, specific or general, so that we may do more in this media
than recreate our already-existant organs. Imagine-- Industry-specific
lists, organizing foci lists, well... whatever we, the rank and file of
the Union want to talk about and in whatever way. 

In case all this isn't enough, here's the scoop-- all of this won't cost
the Union a dime, while being thoroughly and utterly under only our
control.  This has been made possible through the (wo)manifestation of
direct-action-based control at the point of production. Because I work in
the industry, I can do this, and because I can do this, it is ours to run
with. (First and foremost, I'm a delegate, honey!!!  *:) We will need to
delevop ways to insure that it remains in control of the rank and file,
yet remains secure as it's possible for an outpost on a frontier to
remain. Freedom and accountability, as we find more things we want to do
and run into the limitations of our system simultaneously. This is a
challenge indeed, and one in which I ardently hope you all will join.
Together we can do this, and it will not happen on its own. 

The bugs, and the newness of my knowledge, prevented the announcement of 
this New Thing until now. For the record, fletcher's first day online was 
15 March, which just so happens to be the birthday of IWW Organizer Ben 
Fletcher, whom the machine had been previously been named after. This was 
a coincidence, and the date (indeed) was ultimately selected by Pacific 
Bell as the day the phone line was installed. Happy Birthday FW Ben; 
Caesar should indeed fret!

This project (so far) is very much the product of Queer Labor, by the way,
and I would like to take this mere moment to acknowledge that this is yet
one more queer-heavy contribution of labor and love to the whole of our
class, indeed worldwide, as is the Internet. There are 30 million + people
online currently, worldwide, and this figure is growing at about 10% a
*month*! And it's a fact that most of 'em ain't bosses, either... 

So let's go! Where to start? Well, to get an account here, send me mail
at: deke@fletcher.iww.org Because of a software bug, for now at least the
address *must* include the hostname (fletcher) or your mail will bounce.
This will hopefully soon be fixed. I'll need your name and X number, and
at least your X number will be on your "from" line (i.e. an account ID);
let me know which (if any) name you want to go with it. We'll have to
figure out how much (if any) control we want to give GHQ over access; I'd
suggest that bad standing not preclude participation while membership be
required for access. (Just like Organizing, and nothing like the perq
system of GOBs and IWs!!!) So while chronically broke members can still be
in on the action, GHQ can keep us updated on who's ignoring their dues,
which may well affect how much weight you give to some strident opinion or
other!!!  And if someone's complaining a lot, and doing nothing
constructive either online or off, well, the Silent Treatment is a
light-handed yet terrible thing and people with such ego-needs often get
bored and go away.  Otherwise, access can always be denied.... when? How?
Who gets to decide, under what circumstances, etc. etc. etc.  Let's get
this figured out from the start-- let it be part of our dialogue. With any
luck, it will spill over into larger Union-wide debates. 

All this can be facilitated through the x-number, which is so suitable 
for the computer age, and all the anonymity and accountability that 
the X number entails! See, we *did* have it all figured from the start...

Well, that's the 411. I could go on and on (and you *know* I do, honey!), 
but hey-- it's time to hear from you! Bother me, bother each other, tell 
members not online and those you want to persuade to join-- brag about it 
at labor events!!! Get involved, get others involved, make it your own 
because it's the Union's, and this is *your* Union!!! What we say is 
true-- together we can do things that we cannot do alone.

In Solidarity True and from the Point of Production I remain

Yours for the Revolution,
Deke Motif Nihilson, X341697, GA Del. 94-33
IU 560, SFBA G.M.B, '95 GEB member, IWW


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Subject: For the GOB: IWW internet presence & GOB redesign proposal
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First I want to commend Deke and others who have established the 
iww-list and the new internet domain IWW.ORG.  The iww-list has already 
contributed greatly to the free flow of ideas within the union.  The list 
enables timely communication from fellow workers on all sorts of 
subjects.  The iww-list is the sort of forum the GOB might hope to be.  
It's a lively forum consisting of debate, local scene reports, news items 
and more.  

The IWW.ORG internet site is a resource set up by FW Deke and others at 
absolutely no cost to the union.  IWW.ORG through it's web pages makes 
information on the Woblies available to millions of 'folks.  Members are 
invited to set up accounts at which to recieve e-mail providing they have 
access to a local internet service provider allowing them to access 
IWW.ORG through the telnet function.  IWW.ORG workers are busy archiving 
contents of the iww-news newsgroup which is a forum diseminating ideas of 
radical unionism to many people on the internet.  These efforts at 
creating an Wobbly on-line presence should be applauded.  Unfortunately 
they are being attacked.

Jon Bekken in his April GEB report demands that IWW.ORG be completely 
divested from the union and that the name IWW.ORG be forfieted.  He 
claims that the site has no affiliation with the union, that non-members 
are permited to use it, and that it is being used to send hate-mail within 
the union.  First of all, members with x-numbers are the only one's 
allowed to become users at IWW.ORG.  The operators don't check dues 
status, but each user is identified by their x-number.  The operators 
have repeatedly asked for input from union members as to how best to set 
up the site so that it remains in union control and serves our 
interests.  As far as hate mail is concerned I have read plenty of 
personally disparaging letters in the GOB, but I see no reason to stop 
it's publication.  Deke and myself have been among those pushing to keep 
IWW discussion in all forums respectful, open and productive.  However I 
would never suggest that angry members be denied a forum for expressing 
themselves.  The discussion I've seen on the list has contained some of 
the most interesting and constructive dialogues I've witnessed in the 
IWW.  Bekken barely expresses his appreciation for these resources which 
have been contributed to the union, he mostly just demands that these 
forums be marginalized and ignored.

The GOB redesign proposal

Over the iww-list on the internet I circulated a proposal to re-design 
the GOB to make it a more readable and useful tool for internal dialogue 
within the union.  Briefly the proposal suggested reformatting the GOB in 
larger format, typesetting most of the letters, and organizing topics 
into sections with a table of contents.  I realize that such a project 
would require a significant effort which GST Chase may not be interested 
in taking on, so I have offered to have him send me correspondence so 
that I can put out the GOB myself as a volunteer.  I am putting this 
proposal to the entire membership through referendum.  I choose this 
avenue over submission to the General Executive Board for several 
reasons.  First, the IWW is a rank and filer's union.  Referenda are a 
primary mechanism for excercising control over our union.  Debates 
isolated to the GEB do not enable membership to formulate creative new 
strategies to advance the union.  Secondly, the GEB has not demonstrated 
an ability to make effective decisions.  This year's GEB has been plagued 
by deadlock as evidenced in it's failure to elect a chair for at least 
four months of it's one year term.  GEB members themselves have 
complained about their dismal state of affairs.  It's time we re-examined 
our decision making processes and find something which is better able to 
serve a resurgent not sonambulant IWW. 

Yours for a bitchin Union,

D'amanda Lott-Moore
Aka Corin Royal Drummond
x343030 



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Lenny,
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Fellow workers:

Just had the chance to go through the proposed "organizing manual" submi
to the GOB by Jon Bekken.  For the most part, it reads as though it were
by a person with no real-life organizing experience, who gets his knowle
labor organizing by reading books.  But that is not a surprise, since it
written by a person with no real-life organizing experience, who gets hi
knowledge of labor organizing by reading books.

I am curious as to FW Bekken's credentials to write our new organizing m
How many organizing campaigns has he ever started or participated in?  H
many IWW members has he signed up?  How many Job Shops or Branches has
he helped establish?  Has FW Bekken ever in his entire life ever actuall
of the advice that he gives in this manual into actual practice, with a
of live workers?  Has ANY of this been tested in hard reality?  Or did i
from reading the few books he lists at the end of his manual?

To my knowledge, FW Bekken's sole activities (other than a continuous st
charges against those he doesn't like) have consisted of editing the uni
newspaper and sometimes publishing a newsletter for the union's educatio
workers (all three or four dozen of them).  I find it disturbing that th
of preparing an organizing manual for the IWW has been apparently placed
hands of somebody who has no organizing experience whatsoever, and has n
even dealt with a boss in anger.  And this lack of organizing experience
through clearly and unmistakably in this draft manual.

On the one hand, to put out an organizing manual now, when we have a who
300 members, are wasting our treasury on substandard newspapers and
songbooks, and cannot or will not give realistic support to those organi
campaigns we have NOW, strikes me as being mere self-delusional weiner-
wanking.  On the other hand, however, I am glad to see that the GEB is F
making at least an effort to put out a manual (it's only been two or thr
since I, as a GEB member, introduced a motion to publish an organizing m
and only a year and a half or so since the Lehigh Valley IWW got tired o
and put together its OWN organizing manual, based on our real-life exper
with real-life workers and real-life bosses---the Lehigh Valley IWW is c
ONLY  branch in the entire union that has an actual existing contract wi
employer, which we fought for three years to win).  I do wish the task h
given to some folks with some real-life organizing experience (the bingo
the End Up organizers, Aron's records organizers, Food Bin organizers),
least we now have the opportunity to suggest revisions and changes. Sinc
the LV Branch DO have some real-life experience organizing real live wor
the IWW, and since the LV Branch has already written and printed an
introductory organizing manual (which I notice is not mentioned in the
"references" at the end of FW Bekken's draft), I hope I can inject some
experiences into the organizing manual.  So I'll go through and make my
suggestions.  Hopefully at least some of my suggestions will be seriousl
entertained by the poo-bahs.

In general, part One of the draft looks pretty good to me.  It describes
of organizing quite well.  I don't see any major changes that need to be

Part Two is different.  This is where the real nuts and bolts kind of st
come in, and this section seems short in this department.   The section
point of talking at length about competition with other labor unions in
workplaces.  Puh-leeze.  This is just puffery and self-flattery, and dem
once again the IWW's penchant for self-delusions of grandeur.  I think t
chances that the IWW will anytime in the forseeable future EVER be in a
competitive campaign with any of the UFO-CIA unions is EXTREMELY remote.
We cannot even organize shops effectively now, while we have no such
"competition".  And if we ever DID find ourselves in competition with th
unions, we would get our clocks cleaned in short order.

Whether we choose to admit it to ourselves or not, the IWW has virtually
NOTHING to offer to organizers in the way of support, beyond moral suppo
lots of radical-sounding "resolutions".  In approaching workers to organ
that as a matter of honesty we must be up front with them about that, an
frankly tell them that we are asking them to risk their jobs by organizi
risking getting fired, and that if the organizers ARE fired, or if a str
we can offer no help whatsoever--no lawyers, no strike funds, no financi
nothing.   If it comes down to a real knock-down drag-out fight, with pe
their jobs and big expenses piling up, then these workers are quite fran
off going to the UFO-CIA, which at least has the money to keep them eati
paying the electric bills.  And anybody who thinks we can counter the ap
the UFO-CIA in this area by preaching all the ideological horseshit that
fond of is in for a rude reality check.  In the LV, we have talked to se
workers about unionizing, and have found that, with not a single excepti
couldn't care less about all the anarchism-schmanarchism we  try to bliz
them with, especially if they've just been fired or forced on strike.  A
when the table is empty and the electric is about to be shut off, all th
horseshit means a great deal less than eating.  And yes, even revolution
workers need to eat.

I also think the manual gives too much emphasis on the tactics of direct
and not enough on the "legal" ways of organizing.  This, too, is a resul
enormous capacity for self-delusion and our complete lack of any real-li
organizing experience.  Despite all our rhetoric and wishful thinking, i
hard real world, our much-cherished "direct actions" are NOT a panacea o
sure-fire winning formula.  While they can certainly be effective tactic
have used them ourselves, in too many circumstances, they simply DO NOT
WORK.  And to base our whole organizing strategy on using them, on askin
people to risk their jobs and commit what are very likely illegal action
them to legal hassles and possibly fines and/or prison, without the slig
chance of any legal or financial support from the union, all because tha
"proper" anarchist way to do things, strikes me as being irresponsible,
a betrayal of the working class.

If we are serious about organizing workers, then we must be willing to o
them USING WHATEVER METHOD WORKS, whether or not it is "ideologically
pure".  That includes things like using the NLRB where we can, using the
where we can---whatever it takes, and anybody who isn't willing to do th
because "anarchists don't do that" had best stick to writing for intelle
theorizing magazines and stay the hell out of real labor organizing.  Th
some "let's pretend we're labor organizers" game we are playing here---w
talking about real people who live in real houses with real bills and re
have real kids and real stomachs to feed.  Either we are out to help the
are out to prove that our ideological dicks are bigger than anybody else
are out to help them, then that becomes our sole and only goal, and any
goal becomes secondary.  If we play, we play to win.  We have no right t
these people as guinea pigs to test out our neat-sounding "revolutionary
We have no right whatsoever to intrude into these people's lives and ask
risk their livelihoods just to feed our own rhetorical fantasies about w
revolutionaries" we are.

Workers in the US today aren't organizing and trying to unionize because
want to start The Revolution-- they are organizing because they are bein
fired or don't have enough money to feed their kids.  And whether or not
"should" think that way is quite beside the point.  If we attempt to for
concerns onto them rather than understanding and acting on THEIR concern
then all our talk about "worker self-direction" is just a lot of hot air
become nothing more than closet Leninists who are trying (apparently wit
success) to show the stupid working class what they should REALLY want.
an ideological perspective I find such an attitude intolerable, and from
organizing perspective it will virtually guarantee that nobody will take
organizing efforts seriously, since our only legitimate answer to the le
question "what's in it for me if I join" is "a nice warm rosy feeling th
helping The Revolution".  Most people would rather have a roof over thei
and food on the table.

This is probably my most fundamental criticism of this proposed organizi
manual--it is too heavy on the ideological preaching and too thin on the
nuts and bolts reality of running an organizing campaign.  Organizers mu
flexible, and must be willing to adapt their campaigns to the real conce
workers have.  The "let's trash the fascist state" message might play re
we are trying to organize  the local radical bookstore collective, but i
if you try to organize bingo workers or cafeteria workers with that mess
(Unless, of course, we are willing to openly and frankly admit that we d
the slightest interest in organizing these "real workers", and just want
the "class conscious" who work in radical bookstore collectives---in whi
should stop calling ourselves a "labor union").   If you give people a r
at best you'll get a blank stare and a "Yeh, right, whatever";  at worst
alienate every worker in the place and probably get turned over to the c
FBI.  If we want to organize only radicalized "class-conscious" workers,
frankly admit that and drop all this talk about "one big union" and orga
the workers.  But if we are just gonna organize the ideologically pure,
never grow beyond our current membership, which is not enough to fill up
good-sized movie theatre.  Apparently some people in the IWW are committ
the old Leninist saw, "Better fewer, but better."  I am not.  I am commi
Big Union of ALL the workers--even those who aren't anarchists, or even



 


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> Hello, paul here. No communication either way for some time. I am writting
> because I have learned, third hand, that there are efforts to expell me
> from the federation. In browsing the burn account, I even saw a reference
> to a vote occuring on the issue. It is rudimenterally undemocratic, and
> sectarian to attempt to expell a member of an organization without even
> notifying them. I submitted a formal written proposal, along with a
> payment to the federation at the minneapolis meeting. I never received a
> reply to the propsal by the federation, and no effort was made by anyone
> in the federation to inform me as to the status of my propsal, or myself
> in the federation. Although I am not up to speed on the structural and
> organizational decisions adopted by th efederation, I am certain that any
> process for expelling a member would, at the very least, involve some
> participation by the affected party- in thsi case me. To be very clear I
> do not wish to leave the federation. Despite my admitted failures with the
> federation office project, i feel a strong political affinty with the
> federation and its projects. As a member, i expect to be treated openly
> and respectfuloly by the federation. I am interested in talking with, or
> otherwise corresponding with any member of th efederation on these issues.
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Subject: for GOB again pt 3
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 13:44:33 GMT
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I think that says a lot about what the real priorities of this "union"
are.





For a real live UNION that actually ORGANIZES workers instead of
continually TALKING about it.



Lenny Flank
X341341

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     attempt to force OUR concerns onto them rather than
     understanding and acting on THEIR concerns, then all our talk
     about "worker self-direction" is just a lot of hot air, and we
     become nothing more than closet Leninists who are trying
     (apparently without success) to show the stupid working class
     what they should REALLY want.  From an ideological
     perspective I find such an attitude intolerable, and from a
     real-life organizing perspective it will virtually guarantee that
     nobody will take any of our organizing efforts seriously, since
     our only legitimate answer to the legitimate question "what's in
     it for me if I join" is "a nice warm rosy feeling that you are
     helping The Revolution".  Most people would rather have a roof
     over their head and food on the table.

     This is probably my most fundamental criticism of this
     proposed organizing manual--it is too heavy on the ideological
     preaching and too thin on the practical nuts and bolts reality of
     running an organizing campaign.  Organizers must be flexible,
     and must be willing to adapt their campaigns to the real
     concerns that workers have.  The "let's trash the fascist state"
     message might play real well if we are trying to organize  the
     local radical bookstore collective, but it will fall flat if you tr
     organize bingo workers or cafeteria workers with that message.
     (Unless, of course, we are willing to openly and frankly admit
     that we don't have the slightest interest in organizing these
     "real workers", and just want to organize the "class conscious"
     who work in radical bookstore collectives---in which case we
     should stop calling ourselves a "labor union").   If you give
     people a radical screed, at best you'll get a blank stare and a
     "Yeh, right, whatever";  at worst you'll alienate every worker in
     the place and probably get turned over to the cops or the FBI.
     If we want to organize only radicalized "class-conscious"
     workers, then lets frankly admit that and drop all this talk
     about "one big union" and organizing ALL the workers.  But if
     we are just gonna organize the ideologically pure, we will never
     grow beyond our current membership, which is not enough to
     fill up a good-sized movie theatre.  Apparently some people in
     the IWW are committed to the old Leninist saw, "Better fewer,
     but better."  I am not.  I am committed to "One Big Union of
     ALL the workers--even those who aren't anarchists, or even
     radicals."

           Apparently some people in the IWW are committed to the old
     Leninist saw, "Better fewer, but better."  I am not.  I am
     committed to "One Big Union of ALL the workers--even those
     who aren't anarchists, or even radicals."

     The draft manual makes a comment to the effect that all of the
     organizing campaigns who neglected to preach the "trash the
     fascist state" stuff were "uniformly unsuccessful".  Hmmm.
     Which campaigns would those be, Jon?  I've not noticed that
     any of YOUR ideological preaching has ever organized anybody.
     Meanwhile, the LV Branch, which has always focused on real
     bread and butter issues rather than ideological pie-in-the-sky
     stuff, has been one of the most successful Branches in recent
     IWW history, has signed up over 100 members into the union
     all by itself  (this in a "union" which has not had more than
     400 members at any one time for the past several decades), has
     obtained major national press coverage and exposure for the
     IWW in its bingo campaign and its campaign on behalf of the
     Phillips Van Heusen workers in Guatemala, has had a hand in
     organizing and setting up at least four other IWW groups and
     Branches. and currently has the ONLY existing IWW contract
     in effect with any employer.  If anybody else can match that
     record, I'd sure like to see it.  In what way has our organizing
     method been "uniformly unsuccessful"?  Or does the IWW
     consider an organizing campaign "successful" only if workers
     throw up barricades and start The Revolution?

     Even from this ideological point of view, though, ideological
     preaching doesn't help.  The very best way to radicalize
     workers, give them a sense of their own power and the ability
     to utilize that power, is to ORGANIZE them and beat the
     bosses on some issue.  The Bingo workers started out as
     ordinary non-lefty single mothers and grandmothers.  If we had
     approached them and said in effect, "Hi, we're the IWW and
     we're here to help you overthrow wage slavery", we would have
     been laughed at, tossed out and gotten nowhere with them.
     And then we could have gone off and grumbled about how
     "those workers are just too stupid to see that WE have the
     answer to all their problems".  Instead, we went to them and
     said, "We can help you win what YOU want from the boss".
     And once we did help them win, they radicalized themselves.
     They saw firsthand what labor organizing and class struggle is
     all about, they saw firsthand the power that we have when we
     work together, and they learned firsthand who to direct that
     power against and how to do it---all without having to listen to
     any of our preaching or ideological screeds.  And now some of
     the bingo workers are some of the most militantly radical
     people I know.  After all, people need to learn to crawl before
     they can run, or even walk.  Revolutionaries are not made
     overnight, nor are they produced through marathon sessions of
     ideological speechifying.  They are made through ACTION.
     And this draft organizing manual, like the IWW itself, is long
     on talk and short on ACTION.  It is no wonder that the only
     people who take us seriously are ourselves.

     I am not at all saying that we should tone down our radical
     message or that we should politely avoid mentioning the
     subject.  I AM saying that such rhetoric cannot be made the
     focus of an organizing campaign.  If you can't organize people
     around the real tangible issues that working people care about
     and are willing to fight over, then you simply will never be
     relevant to real live workers, no matter how fine your
     ideological rhetoric may be.  The fact that workers are avoiding
     the IWW in droves proves conclusively that we simply are not
     relevant to them, and can't do a damned thing to help them
     change the things they want to change.  And we are doing
     NOTHING to change that.

     This leads to the question of what shops we should be
     attempting to organize.  The draft manual mentions that most
     large unions won't attempt to organize places with fewer than
     20 people (actually, the policy of the UFO-CIA is not to attempt
     anywhere with fewer than 50 people).  And this, I believe,
     should be our niche.  These people desperately need to be
     organized, and nobody is willing to help them (including the
     IWW, at the moment).  It is a wide-open field with no
     "competition" from the "real" unions---which fits perfectly with
     our historical emphasis on organizing those that nobody else
     bothers to organize.  (That should keep the 'Joe Hill Memorial
     Society' folks happy).  Such an organizing focus brings us into
     conflict with bite-sized bosses which we can handle with our
     very limited resources.  (That should keep the 'fiscal
     conservative' folks happy.)  Such an organizing focus depends
     upon the person-to-person organizing which we are best at and
     which is most effective.  And such an organizing strategy
     allows us to organize in a wide variety of industries and
     workplaces.  (That will keep the serious organizers happy.)
     This should be where we focus our organizing efforts.  And our
     organizing manual, rather than being more ideological
     cheer-leading of the sort that we've all heard before a hundred
     times, should be a basic, no nonsense nuts and bolts
     description of exactly how to go about accomplishing this.

     There are more suggestions/criticisms/praise that I have for the
     draft manual, but this missive is getting pretty long already, so
     I'll end it here.  Anyway, for those folks out there who haven't
     seen the Lehigh Valley IWW's "Worker's Guide to Union
     Organizing", which has actually been USED in real live
     successful organizing campaigns, you can get a copy from the
     Lehigh Valley IWW, PO Box 4133, Bethlehem PA  18018.   We
     ask a token payment of $2.95 per copy, plus $0.75 if you can to
     cover postage (all proceeds from the sale of LV IWW books go
     directly to the Legal Defense Fund for the bingo lawsuits).  We
     did offer the opportunity for the GEB to print our organizing
     manual as official IWW lit, subject to the not-unreasonable
     condition that a small portion of the money (15 %-- standard
     author royalties) would go back to the Branch for the Legal
     Defense Fund.  We were turned down flat.  I think that says a lot

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     Fellow workers:

     Just had the chance to go through the proposed "organizing
     manual" submitted to the GOB by Jon Bekken.  For the most
     part, it reads as though it were written by a person with no
     real-life organizing experience, who gets his knowledge of labor
     organizing by reading books.  But that is not a surprise, since
     it WAS written by a person with no real-life organizing
     experience, who gets his knowledge of labor organizing by
     reading books.

     I am curious as to FW Bekken's credentials to write our new
     organizing manual.  How many organizing campaigns has he
     ever started or participated in?  How many IWW members has
     he signed up?  How many Job Shops or Branches has he helped
     establish?  Has FW Bekken ever in his entire life ever actually
     put ANY of the advice that he gives in this manual into actual
     practice, with a real group of live workers?  Has ANY of this
     been tested in hard reality?  Or did it all come from reading
     the few books he lists at the end of his manual?

     To my knowledge, FW Bekken's sole activities (other than a
     continuous stream of charges against those he doesn't like)
     have consisted of editing the union newspaper and sometimes
     publishing a newsletter for the union's education workers (all
     three or four dozen of them).  I find it disturbing that the vital
     task of preparing an organizing manual for the IWW has been
     apparently placed in the hands of somebody who has no
     organizing experience whatsoever, and has never even dealt
     with a boss in anger.  And this lack of organizing experience
     shines through clearly and unmistakably in this draft manual.

     On the one hand, to put out an organizing manual now, when
     we have a whole 300 members, are wasting our treasury on
     substandard newspapers and songbooks, and cannot or will not
     give realistic support to those organizing campaigns we have
     NOW, strikes me as being mere self-delusional weiner-
     wanking.  On the other hand, however, I am glad to see that
     the GEB is FINALLY making at least an effort to put out a
     manual (it's only been two or three years since I, as a GEB
     member, introduced a motion to publish an organizing manual,
     and only a year and a half or so since the Lehigh Valley IWW
     got tired of waiting and put together its OWN organizing
     manual, based on our real-life experiences with real-life
     workers and real-life bosses---the Lehigh Valley IWW is
     currently the ONLY  branch in the entire union that has an
     actual existing contract with an employer, which we fought for
     three years to win).  I do wish the task had been given to some
     folks with some real-life organizing experience (the bingo
     organizers, the End Up organizers, Aron's records organizers,
     Food Bin organizers), but at least we now have the opportunity
     to suggest revisions and changes. Since we at the LV Branch
     DO have some real-life experience organizing real live workers
     into the IWW, and since the LV Branch has already written
     and printed an introductory organizing manual (which I notice
     is not mentioned in the "references" at the end of FW Bekken's
     draft), I hope I can inject some real-life experiences into the
     organizing manual.  So I'll go through and make my
     suggestions.  Hopefully at least some of my suggestions will be
     seriously entertained by the poo-bahs.

     In general, part One of the draft looks pretty good to me.  It
     describes the benefits of organizing quite well.  I don't see any
     major changes that need to be made here.

     Part Two is different.  This is where the real nuts and bolts
     kind of stuff should come in, and this section seems short in
     this department.   The section makes a point of talking at
     length about competition with other labor unions in organizing
     workplaces.  Puh-leeze.  This is just puffery and self-flattery,
     and demonstrates once again the IWW's penchant for
     self-delusions of grandeur.  I think the chances that the IWW
     will anytime in the forseeable future EVER be in a competitive
     campaign with any of the UFO-CIA unions is EXTREMELY
     remote.  We cannot even organize shops effectively now, while
     we have no such "competition".  And if we ever DID find
     ourselves in competition with the "real" unions, we would get
     our clocks cleaned in short order.

     Whether we choose to admit it to ourselves or not, the IWW
     has virtually NOTHING to offer to organizers in the way of
     support, beyond moral support and lots of radical-sounding
     "resolutions".  In approaching workers to organize, I think that
     as a matter of honesty we must be up front with them about
     that, and frankly tell them that we are asking them to risk
     their jobs by organizing, possibly risking getting fired, and that
     if the organizers ARE fired, or if a strike is forced, we can offer
     no help whatsoever--no lawyers, no strike funds, no financial
     aid, nothing.   If it comes down to a real knock-down drag-out
     fight, with people losing their jobs and big expenses piling up,
     then these workers are quite frankly better off going to the
     UFO-CIA, which at least has the money to keep them eating
     and paying the electric bills.  And anybody who thinks we can
     counter the appeal of the UFO-CIA in this area by preaching
     all the ideological horseshit that we are so fond of is in for a
     rude reality check.  In the LV, we have talked to several dozen
     workers about unionizing, and have found that, with not a
     single exception, they couldn't care less about all the
     anarchism-schmanarchism we  try to blizzard them with,
     especially if they've just been fired or forced on strike.  At that
     point, when the table is empty and the electric is about to be
     shut off, all the ideological horseshit means a great deal less
     than eating.  And yes, even revolutionary workers need to eat.

     I also think the manual gives too much emphasis on the tactics
     of direct action, and not enough on the "legal" ways of
     organizing.  This, too, is a result of our enormous capacity for
     self-delusion and our complete lack of any real-life organizing
     experience.  Despite all our rhetoric and wishful thinking, in
     the cold hard real world, our much-cherished "direct actions"
     are NOT a panacea or a sure-fire winning formula.  While they
     can certainly be effective tactics, and we have used them
     ourselves, in too many circumstances, they simply DO NOT
     WORK.  And to base our whole organizing strategy on using
     them, on asking people to risk their jobs and commit what are
     very likely illegal actions, opening them to legal hassles and
     possibly fines and/or prison, without the slightest chance of any
     legal or financial support from the union, all because that is
     the "proper" anarchist way to do things, strikes me as being
     irresponsible, stupid and a betrayal of the working class.

     If we are serious about organizing workers, then we must be
     willing to organize them USING WHATEVER METHOD
     WORKS, whether or not it is "ideologically pure".  That
     includes things like using the NLRB where we can, using the
     courts where we can---whatever it takes, and anybody who isn't
     willing to do that because "anarchists don't do that" had best
     stick to writing for intellectual theorizing magazines and stay
     the hell out of real labor organizing.  This isn't some "let's
     pretend we're labor organizers" game we are playing here---we
     are talking about real people who live in real houses with real
     bills and real rent and have real kids and real stomachs to
     feed.  Either we are out to help them or we are out to prove
     that our ideological dicks are bigger than anybody else's.   If we
     are out to help them, then that becomes our sole and only goal,
     and any other goal becomes secondary.  If we play, we play to
     win.  We have no right to use these people as guinea pigs to
     test out our neat-sounding "revolutionary tactics".  We have no
     right whatsoever to intrude into these people's lives and ask
     them to risk their livelihoods just to feed our own rhetorical
     fantasies about what "militant revolutionaries" we are.

     Workers in the US today aren't organizing and trying to
     unionize because they want to start The Revolution-- they are
     organizing because they are being unfairly fired or don't have
     enough money to feed their kids.  And whether or not they
     "should" think that way is quite beside the point.  If we
     attempt to force OUR concerns onto them rather than
     understanding and acting on THEIR concerns, then all our talk
     about "worker self-direction" is just a lot of hot air, and we

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Fred,

I was premature in sending the last message to the gob concerning the IWW 
internet presence and the GOB redesign proposal.  Please retract that 
from submission.  Folowing are two separate messages which I would like 
printed.

Read the GOB proposal and let me know if you're interested.  

Soli',

Corin.


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Subject: GOB Redesign Proposal (For the GOB)
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(for the GOB)
GOB Redesign Proposal 

Background:

Speaking to people about the IWW more often than not confirms for me that 
our ideas are relevant to working folk today.  Many new members are 
joining the union and many non-member activists in related communities 
are being inspired by our work and ideas.  But our union is still small, 
and plagued by infighting & complacency.  Our success enabling working 
class folk to organize is dependant on our ability to clearly identify 
the types of situations current working class folk find themselves in, 
and develop clear strategies which people can use to improve their 
situations.  Developing these strategies requires that we have forums for 
communication which are as useful as we can make them.  

The GOB (General Organization Bulletin) is the IWW organ for internal 
communication.  Many members have complained that the GOB in it's current 
form is not as effective as it could be.  The GOB is small, cheap 
looking, and features a disorganized wash of poorly reproduced 
correspondence in teeny print.  Lately the GOB has frequenly been coming 
out late.  The GOB production responsibility falls on the GST who has 
many other responsibilities, and understandably can't pour too much  
energy into this one duty.  

Proposal:

I am offering to take on the responsibility of typesetting a GOB master 
to be sent back to the GST for printing and mailing.  I would recieve 
snail mailed submissions from the GST and also collect submissions marked 
for the GOB from the iww-list e-mail.  The format of the GOB I produce 
would have the folowing changes:

1)  I would scan or type most submissions for improved readability.

2)  I would use larger paper, perhaps 8 1/2 by 11 for better impact.

3)  I would organize the GOB into sections by topic with headings and a 
table of contents.

4)  If I am unable to continue producing the GOB I would find someone 
else to do so, or inform the GST so that he can resume production in whatever 
format s/he prefers.

Referendum vote:  

This proposal seems a straightforward matter, and I believe GST Chase can 
choose to delegate these tasks to me.  If he is uncomfortable with making 
the decision, then I will put this proposal to referendum so that 
membership can decide for themselves.  I choose this 
avenue over submission to the General Executive Board for several 
reasons.  First, the IWW is a rank and filer's union.  Referenda are a 
primary mechanism for excercising control over our union.  Debates 
isolated to the GEB do not enable membership to formulate creative new 
strategies to advance the union.  Secondly, the GEB has not demonstrated 
an ability to make effective decisions.  This year's GEB has been plagued 
by deadlock as evidenced in it's failure to elect a chair for at least 
four months of it's one year term.  GEB members themselves have 
complained about their dismal state of affairs.  It's time we re-examined 
our decision making processes and find something which is better able to 
serve a resurgent not sonambulant IWW. 

In solidarity,

Corin Royal Drummond.



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Subject: IWW Internet Presence (for the GOB)
To: newt@iww.org ( X343030 (Corin Royal Drummond))
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First I want to commend Deke and others who have established the 
iww-list and the new internet domain IWW.ORG.  The iww-list has already 
contributed greatly to the free flow of ideas within the union.  The list 
enables timely communication from fellow workers on all sorts of 
subjects.  The iww-list is the sort of forum the GOB might hope to be.  
It's a lively forum consisting of debate, local scene reports, news items 
and more.  

The IWW.ORG internet site is a resource set up by FW Deke and others at 
absolutely no cost to the union.  IWW.ORG through it's web pages makes 
information on the Woblies available to millions of 'folks.  Members are 
invited to set up accounts at which to recieve e-mail providing they have 
access to a local internet service provider allowing them to access 
IWW.ORG through the telnet function.  IWW.ORG workers are busy archiving 
contents of the iww-news newsgroup which is a forum diseminating ideas of 
radical unionism to many people on the internet.  These efforts at 
creating an Wobbly on-line presence should be applauded.  Unfortunately 
they are being attacked.

Jon Bekken in his April GEB report demands that IWW.ORG be completely 
divested from the union and that the name IWW.ORG be forfieted.  He 
claims that the site has no affiliation with the union, that non-members 
are permited to use it, and that it is being used to send hate-mail within 
the union.  First of all, members with x-numbers are the only one's 
allowed to become users at IWW.ORG.  The operators don't check dues 
status, but each user is identified by their x-number.  The operators 
have repeatedly asked for input from union members as to how best to set 
up the site so that it remains in union control and serves our 
interests.  As far as hate mail is concerned I have read plenty of 
personally disparaging letters in the GOB, but I see no reason to stop 
it's publication.  Deke and myself have been among those pushing to keep 
IWW discussion in all forums respectful, open and productive.  However I 
would never suggest that angry members be denied a forum for expressing 
themselves.  The discussion I've seen on the list has contained some of 
the most interesting and constructive dialogues I've witnessed in the 
IWW.  Bekken barely expresses his appreciation for these resources which 
have been contributed to the union, he mostly just demands that these 
forums be marginalized and ignored.  I say such work and creativity 
should be appreciated and used.  

Yours for a bitchin Union,

D'amanda Lott-Moore
Aka Corin Royal Drummond
x343030 



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-> Jon Bekken in his April GEB report demands that IWW.ORG be completely
-> divested from the union and that the name IWW.ORG be forfieted.  He
.
.
Ah, so once again Pope Jon I is attacking one of the IWW's most
effective assets.  It seems as though his willingness to accept and
support IWW projects is in inverse proportion to their usefulness and
effectiveness.
.
What are you gonna do, Jon, file charges again?
.
Get a life.  Or at least put your energies into something constructive.
.
.
.
Lenny Flank
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.

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>From indwrk@web.apc.org  Thu Apr 20 18:29:46 1995
From: Jon Bekken <jbekken@igc.apc.org>
To: iww-news
Subject: wobble hits idaho contractor

Wobble Hits Slave-Driving Contractor

The following is from the May 1995 INDUSTRIAL WORKER, monthly
newspaper of the IWW. To subscribe send $15 (12 issues) to IWW,
103 West Michigan Ave., Ypsilanti MI 48197.

More than 500 construction workers "wobbled" a construction
project in Boise, Idaho, Jan. 28, forcing the general contractor
to reinstate two union electricians' foremen for not driving
workers hard enough.

Nearly 1,000 workers are working the job, managed by giant
construction contractor Micron. Nearly all are union members.
Although some of the workers are locals, most travel from project
to project in search of work. Since workers are on the job for
only a few months and then move on, they have no time to wait on
the grievance procedure. So "wobbling" the job P as traveling
construction workers refer to quickie strikes and other direct
action P is a common practice. Some even know the term comes from
the IWW.

Anyway, Micron's walking boss made the mistake of tangling with
workers who know that their power lies on the job. When he fired
the foremen, the 200 electricians on the job immediately walked.
They were quickly joined by hundreds of pipefitters and other
construction workers, although the foremen and job stewards stayed
on the job, bound by the no-strike clause in construction union
contracts.

			       Direct action gets the goods.
Had workers filed a grievance over the firings, they'd be working
under slave-driving foremen, watching their working conditions fly
out the windows. If the grievance procedure "works," Micron would
eventually be told to reinstate the fired men, but in the meantime
the job would have been completed and the crew dispersed.

By Wobbling, they settled the dispute in one day. The foremen are
back on the job, working conditions are intact, and Micron has
agreed that its walking boss won't harass workers (but will
instead work through the contractors handling different aspects of
the work).

Micron and the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers
(the "union" representing electricians on the job) both put out
letters protesting the Wobble and invoking the no-strike clause in
their contract. The "union" notified workers that any member or
group that turned to direct action to protect working conditions
would be disciplined by the IBEW.

So that's the last wobble Micron will see in a while, right?
Maybe. "If they pull that kind of stuff we'll wobble it again,"
one worker told the Industrial Worker. "What they want to do is
sit down and talk about it for a god-damned month, and meanwhile
the job gets done."

The construction field is ripe for a genuine union. Rather than
organizing and fighting the nonunion contractors, the construction
unions are signing sweetheart deals with the bosses, abandoning
the right to strike, and turning a blind eye to union conditions.
In the IBEW, many workers find themselves working under
"Presidential Agreements" in which the un-elected IBEW president
agrees to furnish workers for 80 percent of the union scale, and
promises the bosses that there will be no problems from workers.
Many workers refuse to take those jobs, others follow the old
union principle of bum work for short pay.

Faced with rebellion in the ranks, the IBEW is turning to
scab-herding. One IBEW hall recently put out a call for 55
electricians to replace workers fired for wobbling another job.
"The AFL P they're company people," one worker says. "All they
care about is getting the dues. They're more interested in keeping
the company happy... They're cutting their own throats, and ours
while they're at it."

Growing numbers of itinerant construction workers are turning to
the IWW and to direct action in response. A dozen workers on the
Boise job carry IWW cards, and many wear IWW t-shirts and buttons
on the job. As they move from job to job, they carry the IWW
message of direct action unionism with them.

The field is ripe for organization. The business unions have been
browbeaten for so long that they've bought into the idea that we
have to be more "competitive," desperately racing to see who can
drive down wages and conditions most quickly. We Wobblies are from
the old school, we still believe in solidarity and direct action P
in fighting the bosses and winning. The choice is clear.


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		       NESTLE BOYCOTT REVIVED

The following is reprinted from the April 1995 issue of the
Industrial Worker.  To subscribe send $15 (1 year) to IWW, 103
West Michigan Ave., Ypsilanti MI 48197.

In the late 70s and early 80s, an international boycott was
launched against Nestle, the largest promoter of infant formula in
developing Third World countries. Sufficient pressure was put on
Nestle that NestleUs corporate officers negotiated an end to that
first boycott, promising to stop the unethical formula marketing
practices which the boycott targeted. However, by 1988 activists
who monitored NestleUs performance in Third World countries formed
ACA, Action for Corporate Accountability. ACA determined that
Nestle had, in fact, continued to promote formula unethically,
breaking its promises to activists. As a result, ACA initiated the
current, second Nestle Boycott against RBottle Baby DiseaseS or
infant formula-related malnutrition.

The World Health Organization states that 1.5 million babies die
each year from Bottle Baby Disease, suffering from forms of
starvation including marasmus, kwasjiorkor and dehydration. An
estimated 10 million babies suffer from this malady, and while
these babies live many suffer permanent effects such as brain
damage. Nestle controls 50 percent of the formula market in Third
World countries.

There are four basic demands:
% That Nestle stop distributing free samples of formula;
% Stop using hospitals and clinics to promote formula;
% Stop using doctors and nurses as medical authority figures to
push the product;
% Stop mass media advertising which suggests that women of color
will lose their figures if they breastfeed and be less desirable
to male partners or spouses.

The crux of the problem stems from the fact that Third World
mothers start using free samples of formula, stop lactating, and
then become dependent on expensive formula P watering it to make
it last longer, often in areas with little or no sterile, potable
water. More and more of the family food budget goes to buy the
expensive formula, and often formula packaging has no pictures or
native language instructions for use. Nestle Boycott organizers
maintain that marketing the formula in this way is criminal.

ACA has not organized local boycott chapters. As a result, the
N.W. Boycott Committee was formed in Portland, Oregon, in Fall
1993 to actively organize local Nestle Boycott chapters. In that
time the Committee has gotten 66 groups in 10 states to endorse
the boycott. If an activist group, union, church, etc., in any
state is interested in endorsing the Nestle Boycott or organizing
a local chapter, the Committee will send a Rmodel endorsement
formS and can provide speakers and product list cards, lend a
20-minute video, RFormula for Disaster,S and suggest organizing
ideas for individuals and groups. The N.W. Boycott Committee can
be contacted at 503/244-3726, or write: P.O. Box 40821, Portland
OR 97240.

Targeted products of the Nestle Boycott include: Nescafe. Nestea,
Quick, Crunch, Butterfinger, MJB, Hill Bros., Coffeemate, TasterUs
Choice, Carnation, StoufferUs, LUOreal, Contadini, LibbyUs,
Calistoga, Perrier, Alpo and Friskies. In the past, the North
Carolina Nestle Boycott chapter was able to get one grocery store
owner who did not want his store picketed to distribute 6,000
grocery bags imprinted with the names of boycotted Nestle
products, with a paragraph explaining the boycott. In Oregon, in
1994, the boycott was endorsed by Portland Physicians for Social
Responsibility, the Oregon Fellowship of Reconciliation divested
its Nestle stock, and a community radio station, KBOO in Portland,
removed Nestle products from the station canteen.

Some activists may suggest that consumer boycotts only put a
band-aid on the fundamental problem of global capitalism. However,
as John Dewey noted that RPolitics is the shadow cast by big
business on public life,S the political process, at least in the
U.S., seems to be owned by large corporations. Therefore, why not
directly challenge and hold accountable big business where it
hurts the most: in the pocketbook. Saving the lives of infants in
poor communities around the world is no Rband-aid,S it is the
difference between life and an early death.  Q Lew Church


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Yo Carlos,

As ever, it's nice to hear from you.  I'm in the middle of moving to San 
Francisco, so I've been kinda slow to respond to mail.  But here goes...

I would be willing to co-admin the IU 610 mailing list, I am really 
pleased you are taking a leadership role setting it up.  I must admit 
though I am unclear on what will attract members to become involved in IU 
610.  What are we going to do?  

The problem with the IU model as I see it is that it depends on folks 
recognizing commonality in all health care professions.  What sorts of 
activities could we undertake that would be of interest to health care 
workers in really different jobs.  There are already professional 
organiziations, for example I am active with the American Herbalist 
Guild, which publishes a newletter, holds conferences, and tries to 
facilitate exchange of ideas among herbalists.  I assume other health 
workers have their own such organizations.  What can we as a small 
startup grouping offer which is compelling enough to get busy health 
care practitioners to participate?  

Since your enthusiastic about this, lay out for me your vision for the 
IU.  What excites you about it?  What, practically speaking, do you see 
inspiring other folks?  

Instead of laying all this at your feet exclusively, I will brainstorm 
some ideas.  Here are some possibilities (off the top of my head):

-We could focus on forming (for wont of a better name) Health Suficiency 
Collectives which would be Food Not Bombs type groups dedicated to 
providing free health care on the street.  In fact we could even do it at 
Food Not Bombs feeds (at least in those towns where there is a FnB).  We 
could publish or re-print informational materials on various health 
topics, provide free consultations and referals, advocate for clients 
when they see regular practitioners, etc.  If we got donations, we could 
dispense over the counter medicines.  

Part of the work would involve recruiting local health care professionals 
to commit to donating a few hours time to free work at our location.  We 
would also have to develop a strong local referal network.  Such a 
project could break down some of the clinical distance practitioners have 
from clients, and also help educate them see firsthand, without ruling 
class ideological blinders usually present in clinics, the dammaging 
effects class warfare has on poor folks.

Anyway this is just one idea.  Let me know what you have in mind.

Soli'

Corin.


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We just got Netscape working at the Santa Cruz office.  I looked at your IWW
page and source and noticed the slashes were missing in the header endmarks:

<h1>Whatever the Heading Is</h1>

If the slash is missing before the second "h1" (or h2 or whatever) then the
whole rest of the document will be in the huge bold heading font.

Thought you'd want to know.


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Carlos, you've anticipated us here at the PSGMB.  We've been discussing 
the need to revive the GDC (General Defense Committee):

> LEGAL DEFENSE COMMITTEE
> It is clear that IWW members are going to continue to run into
> legal battles.   Let's put together a LDC,  made up of Wobs with
> knowledge of aspects of labor law, and other Wobs to do
> fundraising.  A LDC  can also function to give advice on legal
> rights in drives and disputes, that is a service  every union
> provides and we have to do it.  It will be an information resource
> for delegates.

The Constitution provides for a body called the "General Defense 
Committee", which may consist of various locals and have its own General 
Secretary-Treasurer to be elected by referendum vote of the GDC 
membership.  [See complete text below]  Interestingly enough, the GDC 
locals don't have to be comprised of only I.W.W. members; this allows 
non-wage workers to show support for the I.W.W.  I believe the original 
intent was to solicit the support of leftist lawyers and intellectuals 
who couldn't be defined as "wage workers".  It could be broadly construed 
to allow support by associated organizations, like the National Lawyers 
Guild, in my opinion.

> There are certain individuals in the union with a lot of knowledge
> and experience in labor law.  Then there are others with a bit of
> knowledge.  Together,  and each in our different locations,   we
> can form a useful committee for answering legal questions.
> 
> We are fortunate in Ottawa to have a member with some ability in
> this area,  and I will ask the member about being available for
> such a committee,  for questions of Canadian law.

This is a wonderful idea.  If we had already had such a group functioning 
in the IWW before Lenny was hit with the lawsuit, then we might have been 
able to help smooth the whole process of his search for an attorney, 
paying the attorneys bills, etc.  There wouldn't be any anxiety about 
spending "organizing funds" on a lawsuit, because the money in the GDC is 
earmarked solely for defense and nothing else.

> I suggest that we persuade our members who are most experienced in
> labor law, to review the Flank case,  provide any possible
> assistance to Len's lawyer, and advise the IWW on a winning
> strategy in this case.   If necessary, pay our experts a fee  to
> look at the documentation and write an opinion.
> 
> In the meantime I support funding the LVDF $2000.  The union
> members and media can help more with fundraising from other
> sources.  Maybe the Lawyers Guild might be interested in this
> case.

Right now, Lehigh Valley has a its own strong GDC local.  The LVDF is 
functioning in this fashion and should, because of its independent status, 
be able to decide whether or not Lenny needs help from other IWW legal 
experts.  Since it seems that Lenny's lawyer is doing a decent job 
AGAINST ALL ODDS with a corrupt system, the question now is whether or 
not to send the $2,000.  In my opinion, if Lenny's lawyer is able to work 
so cheaply, we should send him the money and look at ways to build up a 
pool of funds within the union, so that we can meet these types of 
needs.

By the same token, we could all probably learn something by following the 
ins and outs of Lenny's case.  I'd like to hear more about the 
details--who the major figures are, what kind of evidence was brought to 
trial, how the judge ruled on different points, etc.  Instead of being 
inundated by the O.J. trial, why not give us our daily or weekly updates 
on the L.F. trial?


TEXT ON THE GENERAL DEFENSE COMMITTEE FROM THE CONSTITUTION OF 
THE INDUSTRIAL WORKERS OF THE WORLD

GENERAL BY-LAWS
ARTICLE II
Defense

Section 1.  The General Defense Committee shall be composed of the 
members of the G.E.B. and Secretary-Treasurer, and they shall be 
empowered to hire any help necessary.  All local defense committees shall 
submit monthly financial reports to the General Defense Committee.

Section 2.  General Defense Locals may be organized within counties, 
cities, municipal subdivisions, college campuses, or wherever a 
sufficient community of interest prevails.  Membership in General Defense 
Locals shall be open to non-members of the Industrial Workers of the 
World who subscribe to the principles of the Industrial Workers of the 
World and of the General Defense Committee.  A General Defense Committee 
Local shall consist of five or more members in good standing.

Sec. 3.  No expelled member of the IWW shall be eligible to membership in 
any of the General Defense Committee Locals.

Sec. 4.  The General Defense Committee shall be known as the General 
Defense Committee of the IWW and shall be so stated on membership cards, 
literature and letterheads.

Sec. 5.  Initiation fees for membership in the General Defense Committee 
shall be $1.00 and dues shall be $1.00 per quarter.  Members of the 
General Defense Locals shall have the same rights of transfer and 
withdrawal as specified in Article X of the Constitution of the 
Industrial Workers of the World.

Sec. 6.  General Defense Committee Locals may retain 50% of dues and 
initiations collected for defense work.

Sec. 7.  The membership of the General Defense Committee may requisition 
funds from the central General Defense Committee treasury be means of a 
general referendum of the entire General Defense Committee membership, 
said referendum to be called by a petition of 15 GDC members in good 
standing; or by a chartered local making official petition; and balloting 
to be conducted by the office of the General Secretary-Treasurer.  Funds 
also may be requisitioned by a majority of the chartered GDC locals.

Sec. 8.  The General Executive Board shall conduct an election of the GDC 
membership - including ex-officio members and dues-paying GDC members - 
to select a chairperson to serve a one-year term commencing on January first.

Sec. 9.  There shall be three levels of GDC support.  The first level 
shall entail publicity in the Industrial Worker and other IWW 
publications.  GEB approval is not required for such support.  The second 
level entails statements of support, fund-raising, organized support 
activity, and the issuance of literature.  Such support requires approval 
of either the GEB or Assembly.  The third level of support, where the GDC 
acts as primary defense committee, is restricted to members of the IWW 
and GDC.  Assembly or GEB approval is required for such support.

************
end of text
************

Remember, sister and brother workers, the Constitution is only a 
framework that we should use for guidance, not something to bludgeon each 
other with.  This text is provided for discussion purposes, so that we 
can see what earlier generations of wobs did in response to lawsuits, 
arrests, harassment, etc.  Our situation today may be completely 
different and MAY require a different style of organizing or changes in 
the Constitution.  I would greatly appreciate hearing from older members 
in the organization ANYTHING they can recall regarding the GDC and its 
functions.  I also would like to hear newer members bring their 
experiences with other organizations and struggles to the discussion, too.

And let's hear some juicy updates on the L.F. trial.  Enquiring minds 
wanna know!

-Maria Tomchick
Puget Sound GMB
x337968

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Carlos, you've anticipated us here at the PSGMB.  We've been discussing 
the need to revive the GDC (General Defense Committee):

> LEGAL DEFENSE COMMITTEE
> It is clear that IWW members are going to continue to run into
> legal battles.   Let's put together a LDC,  made up of Wobs with
> knowledge of aspects of labor law, and other Wobs to do
> fundraising.  A LDC  can also function to give advice on legal
> rights in drives and disputes, that is a service  every union
> provides and we have to do it.  It will be an information resource
> for delegates.

The Constitution provides for a body called the "General Defense 
Committee", which may consist of various locals and have its own General 
Secretary-Treasurer to be elected by referendum vote of the GDC 
membership.  [See complete text below]  Interestingly enough, the GDC 
locals don't have to be comprised of only I.W.W. members; this allows 
non-wage workers to show support for the I.W.W.  I believe the original 
intent was to solicit the support of leftist lawyers and intellectuals 
who couldn't be defined as "wage workers".  It could be broadly construed 
to allow support by associated organizations, like the National Lawyers 
Guild, in my opinion.

> There are certain individuals in the union with a lot of knowledge
> and experience in labor law.  Then there are others with a bit of
> knowledge.  Together,  and each in our different locations,   we
> can form a useful committee for answering legal questions.
> 
> We are fortunate in Ottawa to have a member with some ability in
> this area,  and I will ask the member about being available for
> such a committee,  for questions of Canadian law.

This is a wonderful idea.  If we had already had such a group functioning 
in the IWW before Lenny was hit with the lawsuit, then we might have been 
able to help smooth the whole process of his search for an attorney, 
paying the attorneys bills, etc.  There wouldn't be any anxiety about 
spending "organizing funds" on a lawsuit, because the money in the GDC is 
earmarked solely for defense and nothing else.

> I suggest that we persuade our members who are most experienced in
> labor law, to review the Flank case,  provide any possible
> assistance to Len's lawyer, and advise the IWW on a winning
> strategy in this case.   If necessary, pay our experts a fee  to
> look at the documentation and write an opinion.
> 
> In the meantime I support funding the LVDF $2000.  The union
> members and media can help more with fundraising from other
> sources.  Maybe the Lawyers Guild might be interested in this
> case.

Right now, Lehigh Valley has a its own strong GDC local.  The LVDF is 
functioning in this fashion and should, because of its independent status, 
be able to decide whether or not Lenny needs help from other IWW legal 
experts.  Since it seems that Lenny's lawyer is doing a decent job 
AGAINST ALL ODDS with a corrupt system, the question now is whether or 
not to send the $2,000.  In my opinion, if Lenny's lawyer is able to work 
so cheaply, we should send him the money and look at ways to build up a 
pool of funds within the union, so that we can meet these types of 
needs.

By the same token, we could all probably learn something by following the 
ins and outs of Lenny's case.  I'd like to hear more about the 
details--who the major figures are, what kind of evidence was brought to 
trial, how the judge ruled on different points, etc.  Instead of being 
inundated by the O.J. trial, why not give us our daily or weekly updates 
on the L.F. trial?


TEXT ON THE GENERAL DEFENSE COMMITTEE FROM THE CONSTITUTION OF 
THE INDUSTRIAL WORKERS OF THE WORLD

GENERAL BY-LAWS
ARTICLE II
Defense

Section 1.  The General Defense Committee shall be composed of the 
members of the G.E.B. and Secretary-Treasurer, and they shall be 
empowered to hire any help necessary.  All local defense committees shall 
submit monthly financial reports to the General Defense Committee.

Section 2.  General Defense Locals may be organized within counties, 
cities, municipal subdivisions, college campuses, or wherever a 
sufficient community of interest prevails.  Membership in General Defense 
Locals shall be open to non-members of the Industrial Workers of the 
World who subscribe to the principles of the Industrial Workers of the 
World and of the General Defense Committee.  A General Defense Committee 
Local shall consist of five or more members in good standing.

Sec. 3.  No expelled member of the IWW shall be eligible to membership in 
any of the General Defense Committee Locals.

Sec. 4.  The General Defense Committee shall be known as the General 
Defense Committee of the IWW and shall be so stated on membership cards, 
literature and letterheads.

Sec. 5.  Initiation fees for membership in the General Defense Committee 
shall be $1.00 and dues shall be $1.00 per quarter.  Members of the 
General Defense Locals shall have the same rights of transfer and 
withdrawal as specified in Article X of the Constitution of the 
Industrial Workers of the World.

Sec. 6.  General Defense Committee Locals may retain 50% of dues and 
initiations collected for defense work.

Sec. 7.  The membership of the General Defense Committee may requisition 
funds from the central General Defense Committee treasury be means of a 
general referendum of the entire General Defense Committee membership, 
said referendum to be called by a petition of 15 GDC members in good 
standing; or by a chartered local making official petition; and balloting 
to be conducted by the office of the General Secretary-Treasurer.  Funds 
also may be requisitioned by a majority of the chartered GDC locals.

Sec. 8.  The General Executive Board shall conduct an election of the GDC 
membership - including ex-officio members and dues-paying GDC members - 
to select a chairperson to serve a one-year term commencing on January first.

Sec. 9.  There shall be three levels of GDC support.  The first level 
shall entail publicity in the Industrial Worker and other IWW 
publications.  GEB approval is not required for such support.  The second 
level entails statements of support, fund-raising, organized support 
activity, and the issuance of literature.  Such support requires approval 
of either the GEB or Assembly.  The third level of support, where the GDC 
acts as primary defense committee, is restricted to members of the IWW 
and GDC.  Assembly or GEB approval is required for such support.

************
end of text
************

Remember, sister and brother workers, the Constitution is only a 
framework that we should use for guidance, not something to bludgeon each 
other with.  This text is provided for discussion purposes, so that we 
can see what earlier generations of wobs did in response to lawsuits, 
arrests, harassment, etc.  Our situation today may be completely 
different and MAY require a different style of organizing or changes in 
the Constitution.  I would greatly appreciate hearing from older members 
in the organization ANYTHING they can recall regarding the GDC and its 
functions.  I also would like to hear newer members bring their 
experiences with other organizations and struggles to the discussion, too.

And let's hear some juicy updates on the L.F. trial.  Enquiring minds 
wanna know!

-Maria Tomchick
Puget Sound GMB
x337968

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From deke@wps.com Fri Apr 21 14:02:56 1995
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From: X341890 <josie@iww.org>
To: helchick@u.washington.edu
cc: indwrk@web.apc.org, iww-list@fido.wps.com
Subject: Re: Legal Defense Committee
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Hello all,
	I'm glad that we are starting to get a few exchanges going back 
and forth on building the union, with IU 610 and now with the Legal 
Defense Committee.  Santa Cruz has had a longstanding LDC (I joined in 
solidarity from Philly durring the assembly), and they might have a few 
cents to contribute towards the discussion (Some of the SC folks have 
some really good ideas that they decided not to introduce because of the 
recent nonsense we all know more about than we need to probably.  We 
should start to draw these ideas out of our members).
	Legal stuff is unfortunately something we have to deal with, 
whether we like it or not, and we should develop some standard operating 
procedures, includeing how to get help QUICKLY! (45 day for a GEB motion 
isn't always reasonable).
	From the Philly side we would be happy to produce come voluntary 
contribution stamps if there are not enought historical ones available, 
as well as printing help.
	solidarity,
	josie, x341890

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From: "Michael D. Damore" <mdamore@moose.uvm.edu>
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FWs:
	I was just about to draft a message of support in the Sagamon 
State case when I noticed that Ron's trial date had just passed.  I was 
wondering if there is any news and if messages would still be relevent.  
Please let me know.

Mike

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From: X343030 (Corin Royal Drummond) <newt@iww.org>
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Subject: Re: GOB Redesign Proposal
To: mdamore@moose.uvm.edu (Michael D. Damore)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:22:50 -0700 (PDT)
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Fred:  Please follow the GOB redesign proposal with FW D'amore's 
clarifying questions, and this answer to them.  Thanks for your work.

Corin.

> 
> Corin:
> 	As a member, I have two questions about your GOB proposal.
> 
> 1) Cost.  The last GOB had a ton of graphics in it that made it much more 
> enjoyable to read, but increased the production cost.  I am against 
> spending any extra money if we do not have to.  How could you curb costs 
> if you took over the project.
> 
> 2) How can you assure timelyness of GOB submissions, as you are in SC and 
> the clearinghouse is in AnnArbor.  Again, I am considering the mailing 
> costs of submissions from Michigan to you.
> 
> 	I wish to close by stating that I generally support the idea of 
> decentralizing GA tasks, and I think that you would do a great job, in 
> general.
> 
> Soli,
>  Mike
> 
Hi Mike,

The cost of sending letters from Ann Arbor to San Francisco (my new home) 
should be about $2 or $3, negligable.  Also it would take a few days each 
way to send the correspondence and the GOB master each way.  If Fred and 
I are on top of it, this should not be a problem.  If it proves to be a 
problem, I would be willing to recieve all GOB correspondence, print the 
GOBs and mail them.  But before taking on these additional tasks I would 
like to try the other way.

The cost of a larger page format may be somewhat more than the current GOB, 
I'd have to confer with GST Chase to find out what the current GOB costs 
to be able to give you a good estimate.  I expect the GOBs I put out will 
be larger, as I intend to represent relevant e-mail discussion in the GOB 
to a greater extent that is currently done, and also hope to encourage 
more direct discussion in the GOB.  I also think it would be nice to 
include photos from local groups which give other Wobs a better sense of 
context.  Since I have a computer with a scanner, I could include these 
rather easily, but they do take up space.  All this would certainly mean a 
higher cost, however I think it's a cost that is necessary if we are to 
have the kind of communication needed to develop new member serving 
strategies.  

I don't want the GOB to depleat Nelson and Anderson funds either.  I am 
of the belief that if membership values a service, they will be willing 
to support it.  I would be willing to create a GOB assesment (presuming 
one doesn't exist) and stump for more funds.  I would like to have GHQ 
pay for the first three GOBs, however, to give me time to procure more 
funding, and to allow membership to see the results of my efforts and 
evaluate wether they're worth shelling out some extra cash.  If I am 
unable to procure the extra funding required, I will return the GOB 
responsibility to the GST and we'd be out nothing but the cost of 
three months of a larger GOB.  Consider this a paragraph an addendum to the 
GOB redesign proposal.  

As you can probably tell, I am comitted to creating a GOB which is a joy 
to recieve in the mail each month, which gives each member a stronger 
sense of participation in the union, and which allows all members, wether 
they are on e-mail or not, to learn from other Wobs, and strategize a 
stronger union.  Isolation is our enemy, the GOB and other communications 
forums are one of our strongest tools to breaking isolation unionwide.

If you require details on costs, let me know and I will get you a rough 
estimate.  

Soli'

Corin.


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Subject: Re: FW Flank's comments on Organizing Manual and IWW Strategy
To: iww-list@fido.wps.com
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 17:33:03 -0700 (PDT)
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FW Flank's passionate and lengthy critique of the draft IWW Organizing 
Manual written by FW Bekken is exactly the sort of strategy discussion 
this union needs to folow through on.  I share FW Flank's critcism that 
the draft needs more practical information on setting up an organizing 
campaign.  FW Flank and the LV GMB have another draft of an organizing 
manual which I would be excited to see.  (I know you tried to send it by 
e-mail, but I didn't get it).  

A couple of ideas...

I am not attached to the notion that we codify organizing suggestions 
into one 'official' manual.  There is no one IWW organizing strategy, nor 
should there be.  Different authors will elaborate on their own 
strategies and will have their own styles.  Further the legal 
information, which FW Flank reminds us is essential information in an 
organizing manual, changes from state to state.  At the very least we 
will need to have an addendum in THE manual which details legal 
shit for each state.  

I recommend that we sending out BOTH FW Bekken's manual and the LV GMB 
manual to all new members (and any current members who don't have them).  
Duality is a lie, my friends, this is not an either/or reality.  GHQ 
should be sending local groups whatever information on organizing is likely 
to be helpful.  

Further, we still need to develop manuals which detail local legal shit.  We 
might encourage local groups to undertake this project for themselves.  Perhaps 
we could set up an Organizing Manual Focus Group dedicated to helping 
local groups develop their own materials.  This is just a brainsorm idea, 
not a formal proposal.  In the mean time I hope members will contribute 
to this discussion in the GOB, and in other appropriate forums.

Soli'

Corin Royal Drummond
x343030
San Francisco California



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Subject: Re: Declining the GOB offer
To: 73174.77@Compuserve.com (Fred Chase)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 18:13:43 -0700 (PDT)
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> 
> Corin,
> 	Thank you for your offer to produce the GOB; but I see and the Union has
> previously experienced problems when the GOB was produced by someone not
> directly accountable to the membership.  Also, there are reasons for some of the
> things you would change.  The type is small because it makes production and
> mailing cheaper.  And some of the changes you have proposed are already in the
> works: table of contents, placing submissions in subject categories, and the
> typing of handwritten messages.
> 	So I'll have to decline your offer.  
> 
> 				Solidarity,
> 
> 				   Fred 

Fred,

I asumed you would welcome my offer to help with the burdensome and 
thankless job of producing the GOB.  But my offer is not intended as a 
personal favor but as a needed service to the union.  

While you mention that in the past the union has had trouble with GOB 
editors who were, "...not directly responsible to membership", the truth 
of the matter is that under your stewardship the GOB has consistently 
been coming out late.  About ever 1 1/2 to 2 months, way off schedule.  
Since referendum proposals must have appeared in at least two GOBs before 
they can be voted on, this is a serious failure.  

You claim to be saving money by printing in hardly readable type, so why 
are you flooding the GOB with sloppily laid out, poorly reproduced 
graphics, hardly any of which are current?  If space is at such a 
premium, surely you would have pared the graphics down to a tidy and 
relevant assortment.  That you have not leads me to believe that it's not 
funds you're trying to conserve by retaining editorship of the GOB.  
Given the problems you have had producing the GOB, I consider your 
reservations about me spurious.    

I appreciate the significant work you've invested into the GOB thus far, 
and am pleased that you have chosen to adopt my suggestions concerning 
sections, headings, and a table of contents.  But frankly Fred, you get 
paid $10/hr and the GOB is still not up to par.  It's time to give someone 
else a try.  

If you reconsider let me know, otherwise I will go ahead as planned and 
put the GOB redesign proposal to referendum, to let membership decide.

Solidarity, it would have been nice,

Corin Royal Drummond
x343030
San Francisco California

P.S. Please append your declination and this response to the GOB redesign 
proposal debate in the next GOB.  Of course you can skip this post 
script.  

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To: Iww-list <iww-list@fido.wps.com>, Fred Chase <73174.77@compuserve.com>
Subject: GOBs and Referenda
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	GOB #3 is in production.  Deadline for GOB #4 will be 5/20 with a 5/31
mailing date.  Deadline for GOB #5 will be 6/20.  

Art IX, Sec. 2(b) of the IWW Constitution states:

	"Referendums shall take place three times yearly, as close as possible to
the following schedule:  Notification of the referendums shall be made to the
members in the first G.O.B. on or after September 30, January 31, and May 31,
respectively.  Notification on a measure may not be given unless the motion or
petition is printed in a prior or concurrent G.O.B.  Ballots will be mailed
first class on or as soon as possible after November 1, March 1, and July 1,
provided that at least one G.O.B. has appeared since notification.  Ballots will
be due within 30 days from the date of mailing...etc."

	Any referenda for the July ballot will have to reach GHQ by noon on 5/20
as will be noted in GOB #3.

	I am one GOB behind schedule because of the transition from San Francisco
to Ypsilanti.  This will not affect any referenda.  
	I don't do the actual layout.  That is volunteered by FW Mashni.  My
guess would be he is giving the Union 30 to 40 hours a month when copying,
collating, stapling, labling, and mailing are all added in.  He has my profound
appreciation.  Mistakes have been made; but we are listening to the criticisms
and making changes as we go.
	
	To date the only referendum scheduled for July is that proposed by FW
Carlos Murray through the GEB which would remove the word "wage" from Article I,
Section 2 which currently reads: "The Industrial Workers of the World shall be
composed of actual wage workers..."  It would not take effect until January 1;
so unless others of a more pressing nature are presented by May 20th, we'll save
some money by having only a November referendum this year.

			Fred Chase 


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Syster Administratrices:  In response to newt's inability to talk at us from
the console, I've modified /etc/csh.login thusly:

# System-wide .login file for csh(1).

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if  ( "$shell" != '/bin/csh' ) then
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To: 73174.77@Compuserve.com (Fred  Chase)
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 02:24:31 -0700 (PDT)
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> Date: 21 Apr 95 23:39:43 EDT
> From: Fred Chase <73174.77@compuserve.com>
> To: Iww-list <iww-list@fido.wps.com>, Fred Chase <73174.77@compuserve.com>
> Subject: GOBs and Referenda
> Message-ID: <950422033943_73174.77_DHI24-2@CompuServe.COM>
> 
> 	GOB #3 is in production.  Deadline for GOB #4 will be 5/20 with a 5/31
> mailing date.  Deadline for GOB #5 will be 6/20.  
> 
> Art IX, Sec. 2(b) of the IWW Constitution states:
> 
> 	"Referendums shall take place three times yearly, as close as possible to
> the following schedule:  Notification of the referendums shall be made to the
> members in the first G.O.B. on or after September 30, January 31, and May 31,
> respectively.  Notification on a measure may not be given unless the motion or
> petition is printed in a prior or concurrent G.O.B.  Ballots will be mailed
> first class on or as soon as possible after November 1, March 1, and July 1,
> provided that at least one G.O.B. has appeared since notification.  Ballots will
> be due within 30 days from the date of mailing...etc."
> 
> 	Any referenda for the July ballot will have to reach GHQ by noon on 5/20
> as will be noted in GOB #3.
> 
> 	I am one GOB behind schedule because of the transition from San Francisco
> to Ypsilanti.  This will not affect any referenda.  
> 	I don't do the actual layout.  That is volunteered by FW Mashni.  My
> guess would be he is giving the Union 30 to 40 hours a month when copying,
> collating, stapling, labling, and mailing are all added in.  He has my profound
> appreciation.  Mistakes have been made; but we are listening to the criticisms
> and making changes as we go.
> 	
> 	To date the only referendum scheduled for July is that proposed by FW
> Carlos Murray through the GEB which would remove the word "wage" from Article I,
> Section 2 which currently reads: "The Industrial Workers of the World shall be
> composed of actual wage workers..."  It would not take effect until January 1;
> so unless others of a more pressing nature are presented by May 20th, we'll save
> some money by having only a November referendum this year.
> 
> 			Fred Chase 

GST Chase:

I offered to assist you with the GOB and you declined because I'm not 
'accountable' to membership and because the GOB's ugly, unreadable format 
is necessary to conserve funds, even though the wash of poorly printed 
graphics you're using takes up more than enough space to offset any savings 
from the small type.  

When I informed you that I would take the GOB redesign proposal to 
referendum to let membership decide what they would prefer be done you 
respond that "...we'll save some money by having only a November referendum 
this year."  

Interesting too that you would disavow the need referenda right after 
FW Murray commented on the iww-list that it was a mistake to limit them 
to three a year while in the same ballot assemblies were divested of their 
decision making power.  

To further illustrate context remember that many Wobs have been screaming 
of late for a more responsive decisioning making process, as well 
as envisioning strategic changes in our struture which will allow us to 
better serve the needs of working folk in and out of the union (one 
product of which is FW Deke's call for an effective Conflict Resolution 
process likely to go to referendum), and feeling frustrated by the widely 
acknowleged inability of this years General Executive Board to make effective 
and representative decisions.

Democracy is not a cost cutting measure.  I'm surprised at you--I know you 
know better.  New members have needs and agendas and will push the envelope of 
business as usual in this union.  The structure of the union must be 
flexible in order to accomodate these vectors.  The GOB must be a fluid 
conduit for our voices, we must have an effective conflict resolution 
process, and we must have open and accesible avenues to shape this 
union's structure, policy, and action.  This is not a plea for some sort 
of executive action on your part, it is a reminder that these changes are 
happening and there are courses of action other than some you have taken 
which would be more supportive to your fellow workers.

In solidarity,

Corin Royal Drummond x343030
San Francisco California

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This message is periodically posted on <iww-list> to make sure new
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`Public'  means that anybody can subscribe,  anybody can post
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> From: X343030 (Corin Royal Drummond) <newt@iww.org>
> Subject: GOB Redesign Proposal (For the GOB)

> to be sent back to the GST for printing and mailing.  I would
> recieve  snail mailed submissions from the GST and also collect

The only  problem is your proposal relies on snail mail -- 2 ways,
will add 10-20 days to the process,  not counting your turn
around!  Last-minute submissions won't make it in.  Deadlines will
force the use of Express-mail $$$.

There are at least 2 ways around this however.  First,  GHQ can
*type* incoming material and send it to you e-mail.  There will
still be a net saving in labor time at GHQ.  That eliminates one
snail-mail trip.

Second,  you can mail GOB out to the members yourself, instead of
routing your master to GHQ.  But I don't imagine you wish to do
that, so I won't talk about it.

*******

* Will 8.5 x 11 cost more to mail?  Or will it still be folded for
mailing.

* You suggest larger type,  so that means more paper=more $$ ---
unless you are prepared to cut out graphics.

> and I believe GST Chase can  choose to delegate these tasks to
me.
>  If he is uncomfortable with making the decision, then I will
put this
> proposal to referendum so that  membership can decide for
themselves.

But do you really want to *force* him to a project that will
require close cooperation between he and you?  Better if you can
trick him into thinking it was his idea ;)

***
RE:  GOB SIZE LIMITS

* A general point,  not specifically related to your proposal:
For how long can we guarantee to print anything that members feel
like saying?  WHEN we get a 10,000 membership [1996] we are going
to have to do things differently.

A lot of the talk in the GOB could better be discussed elsewhere.
The organizing reports are good,  business reports are necessary,
motions and resolutions passed by branches.  Debate and argument
about union business is necessary for democracy, but it is
impossible to print [or read] everything said by each individual
member in a mass organization.  `My life as an organizer'  for
example,  may be excellent reading but is more useful in the IW!

The usual method is for full free expression at the individual
level to take place in the branch and IU forums, meetings,
newsletters etc.  The combined members opinions get reduced to
resolutions  which are transmitted to the larger org.

We have an example of this in March95 GOB,  in the resolution by
Puget Sound:  5 or 6 members expressed an opinion here in couple
of sentences.  While about 8 individual members took up about 16
pages expressing various opinions.  [Note,  however, that at least
4 pages worth was taken up by pictures intermixed with these
letters.]

About the first 32 pages are filled with organizing reports
affecting a large number,  and GA business reports [and more
pictures].

BTW I don't think it's a good idea to reprint members'  signatures
on petitions, we don't need to see that, and it seems potentially
a risk to the members.  All we need is the facts.

The purposes of full free debate and discussion are affected in
our present case, by e-mail.  This list provides a free,
mass-member forum -- for part of the membership.  Other,  IU or
regional discussion needs can also be filled in part by e-mail.

Incidentally:

Branch to branch e-mail communication can now occur between the
following GMBs:  Brit GOC    Ottawa      San Francisco Lehigh
Philadelphia   Santa Cruz    Los Angeles O'ahu   Chicago  Salt
Lake City   Puget Sound Michigan    Burlington

These 13 branches can now be said to have an alternative forum for
the dissemination and debate of ideas among themselves and their
members.  This is fewer than half our present branches/groups.

To the extent we can fulfill our  communications needs among
ourselves on the local, regional, and IU levels; and laterally
between members and between branches;  we can reduce the amount of
input into the GOB  to acceptable levels in a 10,000 member
organization..

-- CLMurray/Ottawa
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From l.gaylord@m.cc.utah.edu Sat Apr 22 06:21:19 1995
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Hiya Deke.
 
My hgaylord@cc.weber.edu account just got deleted today.
They found me out.  Ah...the joys of squatting on the internet.
You can still e-mail me at the following addresses:
 
        l.gaylord@m.cc.utah.edu
        lgaylord@envirolink.org
        hgaylord@icarus.weber.edu
 
I just subscribed this address to the public IWW-news list, 
and would appreciate it if you could please subscribe me to
the flame-riddled private IWW-list as soon as you can.  I
would not want to miss out on any of the name-calling.  
 
Also...I am confused about the Fletcher domain you recently 
set up (your e-mail of several weeks ago explaining all the
details got destroyed along with my account).  What purpose
does it serve?  Can we fellow workers set up accounts there?
How much does it cost?  Since none of the above accounts are
exactly "legitimate", I am always looking for ways to hedge
my bets, in the event that something happens like it did today.
 
I hope that things are well with you.  Jenn Madsen told me that
you might be coming to Salt Lake City to celebrate May Day with 
us.  I hope that you can make it.  It would be nice to see you 
again.  As I've told you before, I really appreciate all you've
done to make the 'net a more effective organizing tool.
 
Solidarity,
Luther



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> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 95 05:53 EDT
> From:   <indwrk@web.apc.org>
> To: iww-list@fido.wps.com
> Subject: Re: GOB Proposal
> 
> > From: X343030 (Corin Royal Drummond) <newt@iww.org>
> The only  problem is your proposal relies on snail mail -- 2 ways,
> will add 10-20 days to the process,  not counting your turn
> around!  Last-minute submissions won't make it in.  Deadlines will
> force the use of Express-mail $$$.

You're right, this is a problem with the proposal.  I would be willing to 
do the layout, printing and mailing from here.  That should clear up this 
problem.  

> ***
> RE:  GOB SIZE LIMITS
> 
> * A general point,  not specifically related to your proposal:
> For how long can we guarantee to print anything that members feel
> like saying?  WHEN we get a 10,000 membership [1996] we are going
> to have to do things differently.
> 
> The purposes of full free debate and discussion are affected in
> our present case, by e-mail.  This list provides a free,
> mass-member forum -- for part of the membership.  Other,  IU or
> regional discussion needs can also be filled in part by e-mail.

E-mail is proving an important forum, but it's majorly exclusive of folks 
not on e-mail, which is still the vast majority.  Representing E-mail 
discussion in the GOB is essential.  

As membership grows and participation of existing members in discussion 
grows, we are going to have to find not only new forums other than the 
GOB but also we'll have to re-structure the union to have a less 
centralized more regional focus.  Kevin Brandstaters proposals seem an 
excellent starting point.  Tsunami is an excellent example of an 
alternate communications forum.  I agree that GMB, IU and regional 
newsletters should also be developed, and shared with folks outside those 
regions.  Still, we need to make better use of the GOB.  

From deke@wps.com Sat Apr 22 20:17:49 1995
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Aloha,

Good on ya' Maria!  One of the major obstacles that we have as an 
organization is that we can offer very little in the way of a legal 
network to those doing (or anticipating the effects of) organizing.  
Using the GDC framework to create a FUNDED legal network seems to me to 
work nicely.

Solidarity,

Pete Wilcox
O'ahu GMB
EWIU Local 3

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On Sat, 22 Apr 1995, bill E shakalis wrote:

> 
>                             ANNOUNCEMENT:
> 
> 
> when:  ** April 30, 1995, Sunday, from 6 pm to 9:30 pm, May Day Party **
> 
> 
> where: at TT the Bear's (bar) 10 Brookline St., Central Sq., Cambridge,MA
>          (1/2 block off Central Sq., and Mass. Ave.; on the Central Sq.
>           Red Line MBTA Stop).
> 
> 
> sponsored by:   Socialist Party/Boston Area Local
>                    
> 			   * and *
> 
>                 Industrial Workers of the World--Boston    
> 
> 
>        Bring friends, a singing voice, a rebellious attitude and
>          good spirits (dispite the Newts in the News)!!!
> 
> 
> for information:    SP contact --  Bill Shakalis  (617) 661-1143
> 
>                     IWW contact -- Steve Kellerman (617) 469-5162
> 
> 
> 
> 
>             'Arise ye Prisoners of Starvation!'
> 
> 
> 
>                 *** Fight back! Organize! ***
> 
>            There can be no democracy without Socialism, 
>             
>               and no Socialism without democracy!
>      
>  
>                              *
>                             * *   
>             Education, Organization, Emancipation
> 

From deke@wps.com Sat Apr 22 23:27:53 1995
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RE:  GDC

The GDC sounds like it would function in legal battles, prisoner
defense...  It would raise money,  search for helpers and info,
do publicity,  perhaps arrange for taking court actions.

The GDC doesn't seem intended for the purpose of advising workers
on labor law, though its members might do that too.  For ordinary
organizing purposes,  all that's needed is a working understanding
of the law,  which any one can learn.  While the GDC would be
there if people got in trouble.

Well I don't know if anybody will join the GDC.  There it is, all
we have to do is send 2 dollars to be in it. Then what.   As
consituted, the GDC as GA officers,  has no imediate meaning.

On the other hand if we wanted to think of a network for the
purpose of aiding the  LV- GDC,  we may come up with more concrete
ideas.  Right now the need is for funds,  so such a committee can
consist of members who are willing-able to do some
fundraising/publicity,  both inside and outside the union..  If no
legal help is needed,  then we have no immediate grounds to
involve law experts in the committee.  Still, it could lead to a
more permanent network as other cases come up.

Okay -- there is one way I can see to formalize it,  in keeping
with the constitution as presently framed.   That would be if one
of the GEB members wanted to act as GDC chair.
 Then we could send in our 2 dollars,  and they could serve as
chair to coordinate the campaign -- entirely a matter of  passing
info back and forth.  While any of the GEB members might do,
D'AMore seems in a good position.

If I join I want a stamp though :)
--- CLMurray/ottawa
###

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Len made some very good general points  [quite skillfully too].

* That we have to provide some helpful things to employees who are
trying to get organized.

I believe the basic services we need to have  `ready and waiting'
, includes

ACCESS to
1. information -- about labor law, the union scene, their employer
--
2. basic literature introducing the union and enabling them to
join --
3. delegates/members/committees to work with the local people.
4. organizing expense `petty cash' funds
5. a few buttons and such

We need to either have these things ready in our Branches,  or
have a way to get them from somewhere quick.

CLMurray/Ottawa
###

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I think the proposals floating around for a network of GDCs to provide
legal help to those Wobblies who need it is long overdue, and is a vital
necessity if we ever intend to do any serious organizing.  However, the
question that must come up is the same one that always comes up---how
are we gonna pay for it?  Depending on the local organizers to raise
their own money is not a workable solution, since they will already be
busy enough running the organizing campaign, and will probably be too
strapped to run a fundraising effort on top of that (one of the major
aims of a SLPPP suit is to force the union to direct its efforts from
organizing to fundraising/legal maneuvering).  This tactic has been
damned effective with the LV Branch--this legal fight has taken us
completely broke and has forced us to curtail virtually all of our other
activities--we were forced to suspend publication of our newslaetter, we
have been forced to back out of the Guatemala Labor Education Project,
and all of the hassles and delays in the legal process have driven a
large portion of our membership to drop out of the fight.  It would have
been MUCH better for us if there had already been some apparatus to
provide legal help/raise legal funds, leaving us free to continue our
organizing work.

But the GEB has already shown that it is simply not willing to fund
legal fights in any realistic manner, and I doubt that we can cunt on
them to fund and/or set up any GDC networks.  Legal fights are
expensive, and two bucks per member isn't going to cut it.  I see no
alternative to taking maybe $10,000 from the Nelson funds and using it
to establish a legal defense fund, but, given the fact that the GEB
would rather spenmd Nelson money on songbooks and crappy newspapers, I
doubt very much that this will happen.


Lenny Flank


X341341

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-> 1. information -- about labor law, the union scene, their employer
-> --
-> 2. basic literature introducing the union and enabling them to
-> join --
-> 3. delegates/members/committees to work with the local people.
-> 4. organizing expense `petty cash' funds
-> 5. a few buttons and such
->
-> We need to either have these things ready in our Branches,  or
-> have a way to get them from somewhere quick.
.
.
I think you are quite right.  I think we need to produce some booklets
concerning labor law, organizing tactics etc--and these should be
written by people who have real live organizing experinece, not by
academics.  The LV Branch was working on these projects until we got
sidetracked by all this legal baloney.
.
I definitely think we need to set up a network of "roving organizers"
who can be dispatched to where they are needed to help out with setting
up a campaign, providing organizing advice, etc.  (The problem here, as
always, would be $$$---we would at the minimum need to meet this
person's expenses while she/he is doing organizing for us.)
.
.
Lenny Flank
X341341
.
..

From deke@wps.com Sun Apr 23 12:12:09 1995
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From: X341890 <josie@iww.org>
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While in some ways it seems like stating the obvious, we have to actually 
follow through on this type of thinking.  Any one trying to do some 
orgainizing in this union has realized the shortcommings we have with 
respect to any and all resources (liternature, time, money...) and the 
complete faliure of all our central attempts to address this.  
	Frankly, only on the local level has there been new literature, 
time, money, etc. been available, and those who have sacrificed 
considerably to make these things available to the union have often 
gotten little better than lack of solidarity from the central 
institutions, and at worst aggressive harrasment.
	Unless we are willing to aggressively defend our local efforts we 
will simply continue a cycle of burning organizers on the IWW.  At the 
same time we have support networking accross our local groups so that we 
can minimize unneccesary duplication of efforts.
	Sorry for the down tone, but thats the only way to appreciate up tones,
	Solidarity, 
	josie, x341890

On Sun, 23 Apr 1995 indwrk@web.apc.org wrote:

> Len made some very good general points  [quite skillfully too].
> 
> * That we have to provide some helpful things to employees who are
> trying to get organized.
> 
> I believe the basic services we need to have  `ready and waiting'
> , includes
> 
> ACCESS to
> 1. information -- about labor law, the union scene, their employer
> --
> 2. basic literature introducing the union and enabling them to
> join --
> 3. delegates/members/committees to work with the local people.
> 4. organizing expense `petty cash' funds
> 5. a few buttons and such
> 
> We need to either have these things ready in our Branches,  or
> have a way to get them from somewhere quick.
> 
> CLMurray/Ottawa
> ###
> 

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$10 grand may very well be an appropriate figure for a grant to begin a 
GDC -- so send it to referendum and avoid those buttheads on the GEB.

Your loving bureaucrat,
Mike

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FW

My personal belief is that both these ideas are needed for the growth for our
Union.  Working with the organizers in our branch I have found it sometimes
difficult to keep them in materials and having appropriate literature to
supply them with.  Do to our wide ranging organizing efforts and diverse
trades it would be helpful to have literature other than the "Wobbly"
pamphlet available to our organizers.  
 
I have been asked about our policy on legal problems from organizing, by
potential organizers and am afraid I have not been able to field those
questions very well not knowing what the Union would defend and not defend. A
committee on this would be very helpful and comforting.

OBU
Jenn x3431369

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I agree that we must have a more flexible attitude towards our 
literature.  Personally, I think that every group should have a 
subscription to Labor Notes, as well as a copy of "A Troublemakers 
Handbook", one of the best source books on organizing I've seen.
In Solidarity,
josie, x341890

On Sun, 23 
Apr 1995 Jenn1ww@aol.com wrote:

> FW
> 
> My personal belief is that both these ideas are needed for the growth for our
> Union.  Working with the organizers in our branch I have found it sometimes
> difficult to keep them in materials and having appropriate literature to
> supply them with.  Do to our wide ranging organizing efforts and diverse
> trades it would be helpful to have literature other than the "Wobbly"
> pamphlet available to our organizers.  
>  
> I have been asked about our policy on legal problems from organizing, by
> potential organizers and am afraid I have not been able to field those
> questions very well not knowing what the Union would defend and not defend. A
> committee on this would be very helpful and comforting.
> 
> OBU
> Jenn x3431369
> 

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From: "X341697 (Deke Nihilson)" <deke@fletcher.iww.org>
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Hi FW's of all genders,

I am heartened in hearing the subject of a GDC emerge in Union
communications. I have felt for a long time that such a body is essential,
especially as our organizing becomes more effective, assuring we'll face
repression through (among other means) legal harrassment. History assures
us of this, and (of course) We Never Forget. Further, it is my ardent
belief that the best time to prepare such defensive capabilities is *well
in advance* of the need for such, for (as FW Flank and others can assure
us), once the offal hits the rotary, everyone will be busy beyond belief
with the emergency at hand. Bad time to realize you need an expensive
lawyer to keep your FW(s) out of prison! 

There's lots of things we can do to prepare for the shit we'll assuredly 
get from the knuckledraggers currently in control. I think FW 
Toms-Trend's call for dialogue on a nonviolence statement, along the 
lines of the one we developed in Santa Cruz, is another important thing, 
for example. But the GDC is something we've known how to do (in some form 
or another) ever since we've been making trouble...

Well, okay. So I'm into it. Please allow me to offer an insight or two, 
towards developing the discussion at hand.

Historically, a major function of the GDC was to provide a mechanism 
whereby sympathetic members of the ruling class (you know, those with the 
kinds of bucks that can afford lawyers) could participate in our struggle 
in a crucial way, with accountability maintained (through membership 
mechanisms), without violating our constitutional principles (no bosses in 
the Union). The GDC has separate membership cards and dues stamps, some 
of which exist at GHQ and a few of which I have in my possession. The 
card itself is a piece of red cloth folded in half, the size of the 
regular Red Ducat. The dues stamps are pink rectangles, and are due for 
purchase quarterly, at $1/quarter. (There are also historical 
Voluntary Assessment Stamps floating around, with Ralph Chaplin 
artwork on 'em, currently valued at $1 per-- bug your delegate 
and/or GHQ about them today!!!  *:) Initiation is equal to one quarter's 
dues. So! it's not exactly a Money Engine.  But the form is indeed there.

My understanding of the GDC as it currently (virtually) exists is as follows:

The GDC was reinvoked as a mechanism for the dispersal and accounting of 
the $25,000 granted by this Union to FWs Bari and Cherney for the 
purposes of their pursiut of justice. (That's why charges of 
non-accounting leveled against them later, BTW, were so unfair-- the 
accounting for all $25G was done at GHQ, on purpose!) That's why the GEB 
is the default GDC Board-- it wasn't like that historically, from what I 
understand. I would love to hear any further clarification on this, 
BTW... anyone?

So as such, the GDC (Like so much else in the IWW) is there on paper, in 
a remarkably sketched-out form. Successful application of the principle 
will *have* to happen on the *local* level for anything meaningful to 
develop, and not just because that's where the organizing that causes the 
situations needing a GDC develops! (an historical truth, I'd assert. Like 
in Paterson, or Fresno or Centralia, for examples). This is also due to 
the fact that GDC dues to GHQ are so ridiculously low (which also makes 
it fabulously accessible to even the poorest of our members!)

Part of the idea of the GDC is to get those of us able to do so to pay for 
extrordinary expenses like legal defense, while creating broad-based 
solidarity around same. You know, the Vision Thing, wobbly-style...

Along these lines, being a Delegate (and GA delegate at that) and ever-so 
self-actualized, I got about a dozen GDC cards from GHQ a couple of years 
ago, and with those and the approval of the branch there at a regular 
meeting, we proceeded to organize a GDC local in Santa Cruz. 

Our idea was that five GDC members would make for a
constitutionally-mandated "quorum," and with that we could proceed to make
decisions. The paperwork was handled thusly: when I'd sign someone into
the GDC (all wobs, BTW, even though ANYone can be in the GDC) or take dues
for same, I'd put it on my Delegate's Report, simply making notations on
the line on which it was entered, and itemizing same separately on the
front of the monthly delegate's report. Thus, the Branch could keep our
half of the dues, and GHQ got its cut and the reporting constitutionally
required for transactions. 

We never did a whole lot with our GDC local, as there was always 
something more pressing. The funds earmarked for same (all $19 or so) 
was, I believe, utilized in the defense of people arrested in connection 
with the Direct Action sleep-out during last year's assembly.

But the experience was good for all involved, and GHQ eagerly accepted our 
initiative (which establishes at least some sort of precedent, now don't 
it?) However, the form was never really at any variance to that of the 
IWW administration as it currently exists, via the Delegate's model. I 
think it will need to, to whatever degree, and that discussion along 
those (among other!) lines would be quite fruitful (since it *is* after 
all supposed to be at least a semi-autonomous organization). 

Something else to think about is: separate dues structure, much like IUs 
are empowered to assess themselves above and beyond those due GA for the 
purposes of maintaining their own autonomist Administrations ("so long as 
they don't conflict with the Constitution" or words to that effect). Um, 
that with a Local-based structure (cross-organized in whatever ways) 
would allow particular groups to assess their own member's needs and 
abilities for such foresight as a GDC local, thus making the locals more 
responsive to their particular environments while building the general 
ability of this Union to defend its membership against the lies and legal 
lynchings of the capitalist courts.

I hope any of this is useful to the conversation, and welcome further 
questions and comments you may have and, I most ardently hope, likewise.

In Industrial Solidarity,
Deke Nihilson  X341697
deke@iww.org


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-> I have been asked about our policy on legal problems from organizing,
-> potential organizers and am afraid I have not been able to field thos
-> questions very well not knowing what the Union would defend and not d
-> committee on this would be very helpful and comforting.
.
.
Well, actions speak louder than words, and from the IWW's actions (or
lack of them) it seems painfully obvious that the "union" does not
consider it worth its money or effort to "defend" ANYBODY, at least
with anything other than some warm fuzzy words.
.
.
Lenny Flank
.
X341341
.
.

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To: lindsey@fletcher.iww.org (X344240)
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 19:03:38 -0700 (PDT)
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> 
> FW Drummond:
> 
>     I just re-read your letter of about two weeks ago re: Bekken's call 
> to cut the new Wobbly node loose and force it to change it's name.  You 
> also stated that he is in consistent opposition to the two Wob 
> lists now in operation.  Why?  How the hell could he possibly object to a 
> Wobbly presence on the Net?  Doesn't he realize that this is the future?
> 
>     The only thing I can figure is that he feels that the IW is 
> threatened by these new sources of information, or that he wants the IW 
> and the GOB to be the *only* media of inter-union communication.  If the 
> latter is the case, I think an examination of his motives would be in 
> order. 
> 
>      You mentioned in the letter that he launched this attack in a 
> document issued somewhere near the top.  Is there any way for a 
> rank-and-file Wob to get a look at such things?  If so, how?
> 
> Yours in solidarity,
> Blake Lindsey   X344240
> 
> 
> PS You have my vote on the GOB referendum...good luck with that.  :)
> 

FW Lindsey,

I am enclosing a copy of FW Bekken's April GEB report that you 
requested.  I typed it from FW Deke's copy.  Unfortunately there is no 
mechanism for rank and file members to see GEB reports save requesting 
them with a self addressed stamped envelope from the GEB members 
themselves.  This fact serves to mystify and isolate GEB activites from 
membership.  

Many GEB members have gotten in the habit of posting their reports to the 
iww-list which at least allows members with email access to participate 
in GEB discussion.  I encourage all GEB members post their reports, and 
encourage local groups with access to print and make these reports 
accesible to members without email.  

Unfortunately FW Bekken and others seem to feel that such access is a 
problem.  In his GEB report (appended to the end of this document) brings 
up the issue of who controls the iww affiliated internet services.  
Bekken seems to have control issues about not just the internet, but all 
sorts of activities in the union.  

There will always be folks like Bekken in an organization, folks who use 
legalistic, authoritarian tactics to bash others, and discredit their 
projects.  The proper response to such people is to continue ORGANIZING, 
rather than to expend our energies arguing and bickering with them.  The 
IWW internet projects that members are developing are growing rapidly, 
and being used by a broad cross section of Wobs.  This growth will 
continue with or without the naysayers.  

To consider Bekken's proposals, I have no problem including a statement 
in welcome messages on IWW-News and IWW-List informing members that these 
are not official publications.  I do however think that GEB reports and 
work done by phone and internet are valid and important.  We must take 
advantage of all media at our disposal so that Union decisions are made 
in a timely manner.  Also I see no reason to divest the IWW.ORG domain 
from the IWW, although I and other contributors to the system are 
interested in hearing ways to increase membership's participation in their 
operation.  It's all about direct control by workers at the point of 
production.  Business within the union is no different from business in 
the larger world.  Ignore the bureaucrats and bosses; rejoice fellow 
workers, all is ours.

Sincerely,

Corin Royal Drummond x343030
San Francisco California




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Jon Bekken GEB Report 6 April 1995
4043 N Ravenswood #205, Chicago IL 60613

Recieved since last report:  Ditz 2/27/95, TomsTren 3/1/95, and 3/26/95, 
Kazar 3/12/95, Miler 3/13/95 (but postmarked 3/24), D'amore 3/14/95.  
Also recieved packet from "Josie" and Bob Helms of Philadelphia GMB 
containing new financial report, etc., and assorted email.

First and introductory comment.  I insist that all Board motions, votes, 
etc. be contained in GEB reprots which are sent by mail to all Board 
members as required by the IWW constitution & GEB Working Rules.  I have 
seen what purport to be Board motions buried in the middle of email 
communications which I have no reason to believe have actually been sent 
to all GEB members.  I will therefore ignore them.  I also strongly 
object to "phone votes" which involve only a portion of the Board members 
and which are not supported by written votes as required under the GEB 
Working Rules.  I consider any such "vote" or "motion" invalid under the 
IWW constitution.  

Votes on Pending Motions:

MD12 yes (note that Working Rules do not permit self-withdrawing motions)
MD13 no (I have not recieved the promised revised proposal)
ZTT1/JB8 yes (Note Working Rules require these motions to be consolidated)
AK1 yes 
JD4 yes (Though, of course, the funds were allocated for U. Penn. organizing)
DN2 change vote to yes (FW Chase verified good standing over phone)

New Motions:

JB9 Replace GEB Working Rule #14 with the following: "GEB business shall 
be conducted by written report only, and motions and votes shall not be 
official until a signed report containing the same is received by the GEB 
chair."

I vote yes.  The alleged motion for Santa Cruz organizing funds was not 
presented to three GEB members for a vote.  FW Miller's most recent 
report was sent by email from FW Nihilson's computer logon and (two weeks 
after its date) in unsigned photocopy form [I do not question that FW 
Miller actually authored this report, but I should hate to be asked to 
prove it].

JB10 Direct the Philadelphia General Membership Branch to return the 
$4186.65 in IWW Organizing Funds still on hand according to their 3/5/95 
report.  Those funds to be held on account by the GST and disbursed upon 
presentation of bona fide receipts or bills for Duplication Workers' 
IU450 organizing or other organizing efforts as authorized by the General 
Executive Board.  I vote yes.  It is impossible, of course, to reconcile 
the most recent (and rather unclear) report with the original financial 
report provided last year.  Given the fact that we have recieved two very 
different reports (the first of which reported that the funds were 
entirely spend, the most recent of which claims that they are almost 
completely intact) and the Branch has yet to provide any supporting 
documentation despite repeated requests, it is impossible to place any 
reliance on their book-keeping or reporting.  The only solution is to 
return these funds to GA where we can ensure that they are spent as 
intended.  This motion ensures that the funds remain available for 
Philadelphia Branch organizing efforts while preserving accountability 
and meeting our legal responsibilities .

JB11 That the operators of the IWW-News and IWW-List computer email 
listserves/bulletin boards be instructed to inform all new and existing 
subscribers that these are not official IWW publication and that the 
organization is in no way responsible for the views disseminated over 
them.  I vote yes.  No doubt the operators of both of these lists have 
only the best of intentions.  And while most of the postings to IWW-News 
have nothing whatever to do with the IWW or even with labor, that list is 
nonetheless generally constructive.  However, it does disseminate some 
material clearly inconsistent with the IWW Constitution (inevitably, given 
that anyone may post anything to it without regard for membership status, 
etc.) and should be required to issue a disclaimer similar to that 
printed in each issue of the Industrial Worker.  IWW-List purports to be 
an internal discussion list but potentially included non-members (there 
is no system in place for verifying continuing membership) and contains 
several postings attacking rank-and-file members and officers of this 
union, much of which would not be publishable in the General Organization 
Bullegin under the personal attack rule.

JB12  That the operators of the fletcher.iww.org computer system be 
directed to:  inform all present and future users that their system is in 
no way affiliated with the IWW, to correct statements to the contrary 
that they have posted in various computer fora, and to inform InterNIC 
that their registation of the iww.org domain was unauthorized and that 
the are therefore withdrawing it.  I vote yes.  I enclose a copy of the 
announcement of this computer system for those GEB members not on the 
net.  You will note that it says this is a "union-run Internet node," 
"it's the Union's," "thoroughly and utterly under only our [the IWW's] 
control."  You will also note that non-members are to be permitted use of 
it and that it is in no way under the control of the organization.  I 
have already received hate mail originating from the iww.org node.  While 
the FWs involved in setting this up may well be operating from the best 
of intentions, the fact remains that they are seriously misrepresenting 
the status of their network, have pre-empted the IWW from establishing a 
true IWW network at some point shoud we wish to do so by registering our 
name and thereby preventing the organization from using it, and are 
exposing the union to a situation in which we will be held responsible 
for a computer network over which we have no control.  If the operators 
refuse to voluntarily withdraw their registration of the iww.org domain 
and otherwise make clear that this is in no wy an IWW system.  I will 
propose further action to protect the union's interests in this matter.

General Discussion:

At some point we will need to begin discussions on an agenda for the 
General Assembly, as the Constitution charges the GEB with preparing the 
Assembly agenda and providing it to delegates in advance.  We should also 
remind Branches of the provision requiring that motions be presented in 
advance of Assembly.  I should hope that the agenda allows substantial 
time for IU-based meetings, given the efforts in Education and Health 
Care to establish functioning industrial union administrations, ans well 
as more general discussion of the appropriate IU-General Organization 
relationship.

On the BPOC matter...  Based on the present statements from FW Ervin and 
the Philadelphia GMB, I am persuaded that FW Ervin did not in fact 
recieve the $1,000 awarded for BPOC organizing by the 1994 GEB (although 
the information we had in our possession until recently suggested 
otherwise).  While I would not have voted in favor of those funds, I 
believe that we are now under a moral obligation to release them if there 
is a clear and unequivocal statement from FW Ervin that he intends to 
carry out this organizing project and an application from him or someone 
else working with the BPOC for delegate's credentials (it makes no sense 
to fund an organizing project that has no means of signing up members).

I have heard many people argue that we have some kind of obligation to 
pour an unlimited amount of IWW funds into the Pennsylvania legal 
system.  A great deal of contradictory and untrue information has been 
spread on the IWW-List in an attempt to whip up support for this 
viewpoint.  Last year the GEB put $2,000 into the Flank defense--$1,500 
for his attorney and $500 for general defense expenses.  That $1,500 
represented the entire amount the attorney requested to defend the case.  
FW Flank's IWW-List postings indicate that approximately (no actual 
figures are given) $1,500 in additional funds have been raised, of which 
an additional $500 was paid to the lawyer.  After current bills $650 
remains on hand, with the Board having recently authorized an additional 
$1000.  (This represents my attempt to construct a coherent account from 
contradictory postings--at one point he implied the attorney had been 
paid almost nothing, but the majority of FW Flank's posts seem to say 
that the attorney has received $2,000 of the original $1,500 estimate.)  
Given that we have not received an accounting for funds expended to date 
or a status report from the attorney indicating what has been done and 
what remains to be done in order to secure the dismissal of this bogus 
lawsuit, I feel that we have been quite reasonable.  Several of our 
self-annointed organizers disagree, and seem to believe that the best way 
to persuade people to support them is by insulting them and spreading 
wild and contradictory charges.  I begin to understand why our quite 
substantial expenditures on "organizing" have yielded so few results.

Yours for the works,

Jon Bekken

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I originally suggested the referendum to remove the word `wage'
from Article II constitution,    I do not mind if the referendum
is delayed for practical considerations.  However,  it is actualy
the GEB who `sponsored' the referendum.

I am glad to see some flexibility in the referendums.  No use
rushing if we are not in a hurry.

Fred Chase writes:

> Each referendum costs several hundred dollars in printing and
mailing.

So democracy has a cost.  Perhaps we can consider even more
flexibility in the referendums systems,  which could save money
and/or time.

Some issues are more URGENT than others, and some issues are more
SECRET than others.   Does anybody care who knows how you vote on
the word  `wage'?   Does this type of issue need a secret ballot?

Such relatively minor issues could be voted on in a different way,
through the Branches, with votes reported in to GA.  The names and
the card numbers of voting members would be included in the Branch
report  [e.g.  1000 votes = 1000 names].

I drew up a process model,  and suggest we run a `dummy'
referendum as a test,  which won't cost anything.  I'll send it in
a separate message.
--- Carlos Lee Murray Ottawa
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-> I have heard many people argue that we have some kind of obligation t
-> pour an unlimited amount of IWW funds into the Pennsylvania legal
-> system.  A great deal of contradictory and untrue information has bee
-> spread on the IWW-List in an attempt to whip up support for this
-> viewpoint.  Last year the GEB put $2,000 into the Flank defense--$1,5
-> for his attorney and $500 for general defense expenses.  That $1,500
-> represented the entire amount the attorney requested to defend the ca
-> FW Flank's IWW-List postings indicate that approximately (no actual
-> figures are given) $1,500 in additional funds have been raised, of wh
-> an additional $500 was paid to the lawyer.  After current bills $650
-> remains on hand, with the Board having recently authorized an additio
-> $1000.  (This represents my attempt to construct a coherent account f
-> contradictory postings--at one point he implied the attorney had been
-> paid almost nothing, but the majority of FW Flank's posts seem to say
-> that the attorney has received $2,000 of the original $1,500 estimate
-> Given that we have not received an accounting for funds expended to d
-> or a status report from the attorney indicating what has been done an
-> what remains to be done in order to secure the dismissal of this bogu
-> lawsuit, I feel that we have been quite reasonable.  Several of our
-> self-annointed organizers disagree, and seem to believe that the best
-> to persuade people to support them is by insulting them and spreading
.
Jon, it amazes me that after repeated explanations you still do not
apparently grasap the concept here and as usual have not the slightest
clue what you are talking about.  Please tell me precisely who has
argued for "unlimited funding" of the legal fight, and when and where
this argument was made.  Please point out to me ANY money from GEB
which was not either sent directly to the lawyer or for which no
receipt or cancelled check was presented within one week of its
arrival. If you cannot substantiate these nonsensical accusations, then
please withdraw them.
.
As for what the new money is for, I'll explain it once again, and I'll
try not to use any big words this time.  The $2000 originally from the
GEB went straight to the lawyer, and was used to pay the lawyer fees
for defending the case (defending the case, Jon--are you with me so
far?)  The money raised by the defense fund directly went towards such
niceties as travel to Philadelphia for witness depositions, photocopy
expense and fax expenses for researching the many illegal operations of
Allied Air Force, and (the biggest chunk) taking a deposition from
Joseph Fillman.  GHQ paid for NONE of these things.  GHQ paid ONLY for
the lawyer.  And ALL of GHQ's money has been documented by receitps and
cancelled checks.  Which part of that do you not understand, Jon?
.
As for the money we need now, as I explained repeatedly and am
repeating now, the original $2000 was to defend the case.  Once the
kangaroo court made its ruling, it became obvious that we would have to
appeal, and that meant we needed more money to pay the lawyer to take
on teh APPEAL.  See, Jon, the agreement for $2000 was for the CASE,
*not* for the appeal. we agreed up front that if an appeal became
necessary we would come up with some more money.  Fokllow me so far, or
am I going to fast for you, Jon?
.
So the money we need now is for the lawyer's fees for the APPEAL.  The
money we are raising outside GHQ is going to such niceties as a copy of
the trial transcript ($500) and some more legal research.
.
as for your statement that the lawyer agreed to take on the whole case
for $1500, I don't know what the hell you are talking about, and since
you have NEVER to my knowledge spoken with either me or my attorney, I
see no way that YOU cna know what you are talking about either.
.
Now please substantiate yourt accusations of mis-use of funds.  If you
cannot substantiate them then withdraw them.
.
.
Lenny Flank
X341341
.
.
.

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 I'm interested in seeing the IWW musical recording REBEL VOICES
 promoted to a much greater extent.  Does someone have all the facts
 about it?  For example, I know that a CD is sold by Flying Fish
 Records, 1304 West Schubert, Chicago IL 60614.  Someone gave me it
 as a gift a few years ago.  The only version I recall seeing
 advertised in the INDUSTRIAL WORKER is the vinyl record.  What's the
 story here - is Flying Fish the designated CD distributor, or does
 the IWW also sell the CD?  Also, would the IWW be able to e-mail a
 file (or post it on your www page) containing all the lyrics to the
 songs, with some indication that the lyrics may be reproduced as long
 as credit is given to the authors?  If some ads and reviews for this
 fine production can be put together, I can help splatter the
 information all over the computer networks.
                   Mike Lepore   mlepore@mcimail.com
 
 

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Michael D'Amore
Department of Political Science
University of Vermont
Burlington, VT 05405-0114
mdamore@moose.uvm.edu
GEB Report #5 -- 4/24/95
Correspondence: USPS - AK 3/12; TM 3/13; JD 3/19; ZT 3/26; DN; JB 4/6, TM 4/13, GST 4/18 

New Address:
Since this will probably be my final report while I'm in Vermont, the following address is where you can reach
me for the next few months:

655 North Irving St     Allentown, PA 18103-2063
phone#: 610-434-0218
email: faf2@lehigh.edu

I am not sure how long I will be at this address; certainly, I will be there up through the convention in Philly
and possibly this will be my address until the end of the year.  Since I'll be leaving Vermont at the end of the
semester, I would say that May Day would make a convenient cutoff date for me to say don't send any snail
mail to Burlington after that date.  Of course email can be sent right up until the last minute before I leave (I
have no exact date on that), and I will send messages between now and then regarding my accessibility on FW
Fara Farbod's account (address listed above).

Old Motions:
Now that we have a GEB chair, I will leave the compilation of votes on my motions to him.  I wish to re-affirm
my withdrawal of MD 12.  I do this, not because of any real need (since my last report was quite clear and
fully supported by GEB rules).  Rather I must make my position absolutely clear.  Sadly, I am forced to do
repetitive  things like this due to the petty rumblings of a self-proclaimed constitutional expert.  Hey pope, this
one's for you!

New Motions:
MD 14: Have the GST draft a letter to Thomas Ridge, governor of Pennsylvania requesting clemency for
Mumia Abu Jamal.  The letter should also call for a new trial for Jamal, with full disclosure of all evidence to
the jury this time.  Also the GST shall send a copy of the letter to Mumia Abu Jamal in prison along with the
IWW's message of solidarity - YES

MD 15: That in addition to the Organizing Manual submitted by FW Bekken, the Lehigh Valley GMB's
Organizing Manual shall be considered as official IWW literature - YES

MD 16: That the operators of iww-news computer email list server be instructed to inform all new and existing
subscribers that it is not an official IWW publication and that the union is in no way responsible for the views
disseminated over it.- YES

MD 17: That the operators of iww-list computer email list server be instructed to inform all new and existing
members that, while it is a members only list, it is not accessible by all IWW members and therefore the views
expressed on it may not necessarily reflect the opinions of any sizeable percentage of the membership.  Have it
also suggest that any member wishing to submit and idea, argument or proposal to the entire membership of the
IWW should use the GOB in addition to the iww-list - YES

MD 18: Issue a job branch charter to Stevenson College which is part of the Edinburgh IWW group - YES

Votes:  DN 8 (pay all expense for L Flank) - YES; JB 9 (snail along) - NO; 
JB 10 (continue to harass Philly) - NO; JB 11 (disclaimer on list) - NO; 
JB 12 (harass emailers -- notice a pattern?) - NO;
 
Discussion:
MD 14 - I want to thank GST Fred Chase for coming up with this proposal; I am happy to put it forward
though I wish it was not necessary.  
     Mumia Abu Jamal, a black political activist, was sentenced to death in Pennsylvania for the alleged
murder of a Philadelphia cop.  The "facts" surrounding Mumia's conviction are fuzzy, at best.  What we do
know is that he was quite an effective political organizer in a city whose police force has been known to ambush
and drop bombs on people of color, who say "fuck you" too loudly.  Through the years, Mumia has
consistently declared his innocence, and a campaign for his release continues.  I bring this motion now because
the new governor of Pennsylvania has promised to re-instate the death penalty, and start the death parade with
all the cop killers.  I have no doubt of two things -- first, Mumia Abu Jamal is a political prisoner; and second
he's going to die at the hands of the state if enough people don't scream "stop."  

MD 15 - I thought that parts of the submitted manual were quite good but it tended to be much too ideological,
and "one way only" oriented.  It also severely lacked examples from practical organizing.  Therefore, I offer
the LVGMB's publication as I feel that it does a superb job at presenting all the options and melds that with
practical examples.

MD 16, 17/JB 11 - I agree that iww-news should carry such a disclaimer, but iww-list is a members only
discussion group.  Yes, it is unedited and that's very effective.  Yes, it's policy is also not to throw off every
member that falls into bad standing for one day; but since I've joined the union the GA has always granted a
grace period to out of good standing members with regards to the GOB -- I see no reason why the iww-list
cannot afford members the same courtesy.

JB 9- I see no reason not to use technology if it's applicable (this does not mean shutting out non-email
members).  Also written reports don't take into account emergency matters.  We need phone votes, especially if
we are going to insist on handing out needed organizing funds with an eyedropper.

JB 10 - When is this singling out of one branch in the name of accountability going to stop?  This is absolute
ridiculous bullshit!  Philadelphia is certainly not the only receiver of funds from the GA, and has reported its
finances.  What more can you want?

JB 12 - I think things are going smoothly now and do not think GEB interference is warranted at this time. 
Regarding FW Bekken's assertion about the hate mail he's been getting, I must say Jon that if you check you'll
find that the amount of hate mail you receive is in direct proportion to that which you send out -- this is the
humble opinion of a NON-self-proclaimed Super Organizer, by the way,

The Songbook - Look, I've got nothing against the songbook, in fact I'll probably buy one for myself after all
this brew-ha-ha is all over.  The whole point is this.  The songbook committee is funded by the Hungarian
Literature Fund, which is basically a secret society that is ruled over by a central committee.  The HLF may or
may not be linked to the IWW; frankly I do not know.
     Nevertheless, the 1993 GEB decided to turn the financing (and the moneymaking, of course) over to
the HLF.  This is absolutely true; in fact, I, myself, voted yes very happily on this motion, so I do not contend
the HLF's right to finance the project and make the revenue from it.
     The songbook was put together by a group of volunteers, none of which were ever elected by the
membership of the IWW; this includes Penny Pixler, who has served as an unofficial chair of the committee. 
Again, I have no problem with this because there was an open invitation for all members to participate and
those who enjoyed the task of creating a songbook pitched in.  The problem is that there is no accountability to
the membership here, even though the IWW Constitution very clearly states in Article III Section 5d: "The
General Executive Board shall have full power and authority over all IWW publications and guide their policy."
     Now the editorship of the IW runs along similar lines.  The IW editor was not appointed by the GEB,
and that's OK, but if either the GEB or the membership passes judgement over the paper, the editor is required
to abide by this decision.  All that I am asking, and all that LF 12 is saying is that the same apply to the
songbook.
     The need for such oversight is best shown in the incident in May 1993 over which LF 12 was drafted. 
Upon receiving the list of songs to be included in the new issue, he noticed that the songbook included songs (or
a song, frankly I do not remember) by Malvina Reynolds.  Now this member objected to the inclusion of
Reynolds's songs because she was a known scab, what's worse she scabbed on an IWW picket line at the Cedar
Alley Coffee House in San Francisco (1964).  His initial request to have the Reynolds material removed was
met with static, and the committee only agreed to drop the songs after members of the GEB threatened to make
a big deal out of this issue if the songs were not dropped  (of course this was a big deal, the inclusion of
Reynolds material after this disclosure struck me as an outrage and a slap in the face to the real work of this
union).
     After this incident, LF 6 was passed to ensure that the final approval of the songbook would be in the
hands of elected officials of the IWW.  The right of oversight belongs to the GEB by both the motion and the
constitution, the matter of who is paying for it is irrelevant unless the HLF plans not to put and IWW stamp on
the book.  At no time did the GEB abdicate its right of oversight when it reached a mutually beneficial
agreement with the HLF.
     Now, the committee did release a list of songs, and that was OK as a preliminary step, but a list of
songs is not a final copy, and that is what I demand.  Also in response to FW Ditz's point -- It is not my fault
that the songbook went to press without it being sent to the GEB first, that is simply one of two things, a
mistake/misread by the songbook committee, or blatant defiance of a GEB motion because it's potential
inconvenience.  I care not which, I simply demand that the unelected group which created the songbook, and the
unelected group that financed the songbook yield to the final decision of either the only elected body in the
union or the entire membership itself before one single copy of a songbook proclaiming to be "IWW" is sold.
Enclosed is a copy of a letter that I have drafted to Penny Pixler and the HLF.

Assembly: Article VI Section 1b of the IWW constitution states that the GEB "shall issue an agenda to the
delegates to the General Assembly specifying the time limit on each question.  All resolutions, wherever
possible, shall be in the hands of the GEB 10 days before the opening of the General Assembly.  Copies of
resolutions shall be furnished to all delegates."
     Besides being yet another portion of the constitution that is terribly inappropriate to a union of our tiny
size (this is for a large union with assigned delegates to a convention), FW Bekken's assertion that the GEB sets
the agenda seems a bit too definite.  I know for sure that the last two years the GEB took a hands off approach
to the agenda for the Assembly, and I'm generally for this.  We should contact San Fran, Santa Cruz, and Ann
Arbor and ask them how they set the agendas for the assemblies they hosted.  Past assemblies did not self-
destruct for the lack of involvement by bureaucratic bullshit artists; I have a feeling the '95 assembly will do
quite well on it's own.
     Finally, I cannot help but feel that this sudden rush to place more decision making power in the hands
of the central committee is prompted by the site of this year's assembly.  Since Philadelphia has been
discriminated against and harassed by this body all year, I don't know why I am surprised.  
     Either way, I suppose we must reach some kind of decision; please let's make it quick as I and many
others have important proposals for discussion at the Assembly and we are not about to have our proposals
silenced because they didn't meet some half-ass dictates set by the Supreme Soviet.

PS: to those who are making statements criticizing "blanket amnesty," but then voting to dismiss all the charges
levied by FW Ervin without consideration -- listen to your own hypocrisy, it's an absolute joke!

In Solidarity,


















Michael D'Amore
655 North Irving Street
Allentown, PA 18103-2063
610-434-0218 -- Pennsylvania
802-660-4790 -- Vermont

April 22, 1995

Dear FWs Involved in Songbook Production:

     I am writing to you as a member of the General Executive Board because I am concerned about the
fulfillment of the 1993 GEB motion LF 12.  LF 12 read "as official IWW literature, the new edition of the
Little Red Songbook shall be reviewed and approved by the GEB prior to printing."  Recently, I heard through
indirect channels that the songbook has gone to press without first circulating a draft copy to the GEB.  I can
assume that this lack of action on your part means one of three things:

1) You have no intention of marketing the new songbook as official IWW literature.
2) You have chosen, for some reason, to ignore this clear motion.
3) You have simply overlooked LF 6, as it was passed a long time ago, and upon this notice will be happy to
fulfill this simple provision.  I sincerely hope that this is the reason.

     My insistence that this GEB motion, which has never been overturned or nullified, be fulfilled in no
way should be construed as an attack on the songbook.  I, for one, have no intentions of editing this book for
artistic choices, or rejecting the LRS for small details and I don't think that any GEB members have that
intention either.  While I cannot officially speak for my colleagues, I anticipate that the review of by the GEB
will be quick and positive; but the actual review must take place to ensure democratic control over the most
widely circulated non-periodical published by the IWW.  I'm sure you can see how an unelected songbook
committee and an entity which now operates entirely independent of the IWW (HLF) is insufficient to certify
the LRS to bear our seal and speak for this union.
     I hope that we can come to an agreement on this issue in a timely fashion.  Again, I feel that GEB
oversight will not delay the release of the songbook very long, and it will ensure accountability and union
democracy.  Please contact me with your response as soon as possible.  Thank you.

Solidarity,



Michael D'Amore
General Executive Board




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Hi Net Wobs,

To follow up on FW Deke's call for the establishment of a IWW conflict 
resolution proceedure (save expultion as provided in the constitution) I 
wanted to know if anyone knows any sucessful models for being used in any 
other organizations.  How do other groups deal with conflict?  What can 
we learn from them?  Are there any group who can help us implement a 
proceedure in the IWW?

Hopefully we can avoid reinventing the wheel.

Sincerely,

Corin Royal Drummond x343030
San Francisco California



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Hi a guy. Haven't heard from ya in awhile...TIMC(typical Italian mama
complaint). Actually haven't even fired old Winnie up in a few days. Tried to
yesterday but couldn't get her to kick into windows again. Then I found a light
left on in the basement that may be on the same circuit, turned it off and today
she's working. Go figure. And, besides, I been sick - kinda real sick. Had a
temp of 102.4 the other night that the doc said yes indeedy, for a 48 yo, is a
bit high. Actually have run a temp now for the last 5 nights, but Friday's was
the highest. Seems there's some strange rhino-virus (spread thru the nose) going
around that has kids and adults flat on their backs. Feel pretty good during the
day, but the aches and chills at nite are horrible. Is this for us folks to know
what those with AIDS have to live with all the time?  So I didn't work the 36
hrs. I was scheduled for this weekend, but this is only the 2nd time in 2 yrs.
that I've been sick, so I have sick time out the kazoo. 

Speaking of time off, we're gonna be in KC next week. It's Lynn's 20th nursing
school reunion and her mom's 50th from the same school. So we're dressing to the
9's and all going. As I've worked with about 6 or 8 other women who graduated
with her I won't feel completely forlorn. The biggest problem so far has been
finding shoes as Birkenstock doesn't make a basic black pump, and Lynn promised
her mother she wouldn't wear hers - yes she really did ask!

So what has been your community's response to the bombing in OK?  My heart goes
out to those poor parents of all those kids they haven't found yet. I think they
should do to the bombers what the Indians did - flay them and then stake them
over a red ant hill. Sorry, but it brings out some pretty violent parts of me.
And then I heard something briefly about a bombing in Sacremento today. Guess
I'll have to turn on the PM news. 

Another update. Gabe and Misty are really moving to Asheville in June.
HOORAY!!!!!  Another TIM thing. 

Gotta go. The weather's turned colder than shit here and I gotta get more wood
for the fire. 
Take good care and write back soon.    Love........Bonnie


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I like it when you talk dirty.

FW silla


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RE: online unofficial

I have no problem with the suggestion that we notify that iww-news
is not an official IWW podium.    This can probably best be done,
as Corin suggested, in the `welcome' file.   It could also be
included with periodic postings,  which are needed in any case for
other purposes.

I think this is obvious to people once they begin reading the
list.  However,  some people,  when they first hear about it,
assume it's going to disseminate IWW news.

My own vision for the iww-news,  is a link and forum among  groups
and individuals who are in accord with IWW  principles.  This is
well reflected in the subscribers,  which includes several AIT
sections,  a few trade union local activists,  as well as numerous
anarchs and socialists.

The IWW is in a good position to show leadership in uniting the
global syndicalists  by frequent posts of news and info about
itself -- either from IW, HQ, or from members and branches
[ideally from all these sources].

Since I am also posting this message to iww-news,  let me add that
all syndicalist and similar organizations are welcome to approach
the list in the same way.

I'd like to see about half the IW posted;  more would be okay,
but perhaps there is a need to hold out some,  so people will be
tempted to buy paper IW subs.

GHQ can post any passed resolutions, support letters...

Branches and members can report on what they are doing, even if
it's small potatoes.  We are not here to provide an illusion of
being bigger than we are.  We want to get down to brass tacks.
Just knowing what others are doing,  can be an encouragement for
similar efforts.  And you never know,  maybe someone else is
already doing the same thing and is able to give advice.

This activity will strengthen the community of radical labor.  One
important function is to broadcast publicity widely and quickly,
with minimum effort.

At the same time,  the iww-news brings info to us,  about what
these other groups and people are doing,  which makes it a handy
resource for IW.

It is always my intention that the list be in control of the IWW.
At some point this can be formalized,  when there is a practical
reason.  For example,  if I had to quit managing the list,  or if
the members became dissatisfied with my work,  then the
appointment of my successor would be a decision of the GA.  GA has
power to change the welcome message,  or place any controls they
wish on the topics of discussion,  or to change the name.

GHQ has the password for the list maintenance, this does give GA
power to intervene directly,  and also provides a emergency backup
in case anything happens to me.

I do have control over subscribers and can cut them off.

In addition to the 116 current subscribers 4.24.95, and the
unknown number of APC conference readers,  the iww-news is ported
in to 3 BBS's that I know of.  One is in Australia, one in Belgium
and one in Ottawa.  Add to this, the fact that some of the
subscribers are groups,  others are publishers of newsletters.

One thing we need on the iww-news,  is more about the trade unions
activity such as is relevant;   perhaps a better liaison with the
other labor lists and LaborNet [IGC],  perhaps a person to scan
these media and cross post.

Currently the maintenance work has picked up.  Nearly every day
there is a user account that goes dead somewhere,  and I have to
unsub them or else the messages keep bouncing [back to me, filling
my mailbox].   Also, nearly every day we get a sub request from
WWW servers,  and for some reason these need my approval.  But
they almost never work.  I sub them, but majordomo reports
messages undeliverable.  These are addresses with more than one
@.

Occasionally,  someone will ask me to subscribe them.

Frequently,  people have a temporary problem with their user
account so messages are bounced.  Usually I wait a couple of days
before cutting them off,  but I never know if the account is dead
or just temporarily out of whack.

Well I have to go make some money -- to pay my e-mail bill!

For solidarity,
--- CLMurray/Ottawa

indwrk@web.apc.org     BH295@Freenet.Carleton.Ca
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RE: online unofficial

I have no problem with the suggestion that we notify that iww-news
is not an official IWW podium.    This can probably best be done,
as Corin suggested, in the `welcome' file.   It could also be
included with periodic postings,  which are needed in any case for
other purposes.

I think this is obvious to people once they begin reading the
list.  However,  some people,  when they first hear about it,
assume it's going to disseminate IWW news.

My own vision for the iww-news,  is a link and forum among  groups
and individuals who are in accord with IWW  principles.  This is
well reflected in the subscribers,  which includes several AIT
sections,  a few trade union local activists,  as well as numerous
anarchs and socialists.

The IWW is in a good position to show leadership in uniting the
global syndicalists  by frequent posts of news and info about
itself -- either from IW, HQ, or from members and branches
[ideally from all these sources].

Since I am also posting this message to iww-news,  let me add that
all syndicalist and similar organizations are welcome to approach
the list in the same way.

I'd like to see about half the IW posted;  more would be okay,
but perhaps there is a need to hold out some,  so people will be
tempted to buy paper IW subs.

GHQ can post any passed resolutions, support letters...

Branches and members can report on what they are doing, even if
it's small potatoes.  We are not here to provide an illusion of
being bigger than we are.  We want to get down to brass tacks.
Just knowing what others are doing,  can be an encouragement for
similar efforts.  And you never know,  maybe someone else is
already doing the same thing and is able to give advice.

This activity will strengthen the community of radical labor.  One
important function is to broadcast publicity widely and quickly,
with minimum effort.

At the same time,  the iww-news brings info to us,  about what
these other groups and people are doing,  which makes it a handy
resource for IW.

It is always my intention that the list be in control of the IWW.
At some point this can be formalized,  when there is a practical
reason.  For example,  if I had to quit managing the list,  or if
the members became dissatisfied with my work,  then the
appointment of my successor would be a decision of the GA.  GA has
power to change the welcome message,  or place any controls they
wish on the topics of discussion,  or to change the name.

GHQ has the password for the list maintenance, this does give GA
power to intervene directly,  and also provides a emergency backup
in case anything happens to me.

I do have control over subscribers and can cut them off.

In addition to the 116 current subscribers 4.24.95, and the
unknown number of APC conference readers,  the iww-news is ported
in to 3 BBS's that I know of.  One is in Australia, one in Belgium
and one in Ottawa.  Add to this, the fact that some of the
subscribers are groups,  others are publishers of newsletters.

One thing we need on the iww-news,  is more about the trade unions
activity such as is relevant;   perhaps a better liaison with the
other labor lists and LaborNet [IGC],  perhaps a person to scan
these media and cross post.

Currently the maintenance work has picked up.  Nearly every day
there is a user account that goes dead somewhere,  and I have to
unsub them or else the messages keep bouncing [back to me, filling
my mailbox].   Also, nearly every day we get a sub request from
WWW servers,  and for some reason these need my approval.  But
they almost never work.  I sub them, but majordomo reports
messages undeliverable.  These are addresses with more than one
@.

Occasionally,  someone will ask me to subscribe them.

Frequently,  people have a temporary problem with their user
account so messages are bounced.  Usually I wait a couple of days
before cutting them off,  but I never know if the account is dead
or just temporarily out of whack.

Well I have to go make some money -- to pay my e-mail bill!

For solidarity,
--- CLMurray/Ottawa

indwrk@web.apc.org     BH295@Freenet.Carleton.Ca
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Hi e-Wobs,

I typed in the text of FW Meyers' three referenda petitions which are 
lacking signatures.  He apparently needs only a few more of the 15 
required to qualify them for the ballot, but I thought sending them out 
over the list would be a good way to get them some pre-GOB exposure.  

Discussion of the Proposed Referenda

These are three changes to the bylaws, one limiting the General 
Administrations power to audit IU and GMB financial records, one 
requiring a 3/4 majority to expel a member, and one changing the penalty 
of a charge for circulating untrue accusations from mandatory expulsion 
to the printing of a correction in the GOB.  

FW Meyers is attempting some much needed adjustment to the constitution, 
and I thank him.  I have reservations about the proposal to change the 
penalty for untrue accusations.  This proposal covers the same territory 
as would a true conflict resolution proceedure, but only in a limited 
piecemeal way.  I would rather we put the effort into developing a truely 
effective process.  FW Meyers' changes leave intact the vague requirement 
that, "the circulation of accusations" must be substantiated by 
"charges."  Meyers' in his introductory statement asks, "What constitutes 
and accusation, and what constitutes circulating one?"  Further who 
decides these questions?  

Recently charges were filed by FW Ervin against three officers.  One of 
the officers charged, voted to dismiss the charges against himself.  
Can you say, "conflict of interest?"  This is an unacceptable situation.  

So I want us to dialogue about a true conflict resolution proposal to 
replace the unworkable situation we have now.  Failing that, I'm willing 
to vote for this inadequate piece of reform.  But not without strong 
reservations.  

It's time we as a union committed to re-envisioning our organization and 
re-cast this organization into a structure which is more workable.  We 
can't afford to continue working with a patchwork constitution riddled 
with inconsistencies, which then get used in faction fights.  I 
appreciate FW Meyers' efforts in this direction, and will eagerly vote 
for them, but we really must do a more thorough job.

Solidarity,

Corin Royal Drummond x343030
San Francisco California


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Subject: Petition for Referendum:  Concerning Expulsion
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Introducing a Petition to add a Section 8 to Article III of the By-Laws

Written by Bill Meyers, x337515

I believe it may be sometimes necessary to expel a member from the IWW.  
When it is necessary, it will probably be obvious to most of the 
membership.  Then most members would vote for it.  

But if 51 members vote for expulsion, and 50 vote against it, can it be 
said that the necessity of expulsion is obvious to members?  No!  But 
that is our current set of rules.

Requiring a simple majority for expulsion encourages factionally minded 
individuals and groups to attempt to expel those who disagree with them.  
Believe me, it has happened in the IWW. 

The second sentence of the proposed Section 8 corrects another avenue for 
injustice.  It guarantees the right to appeal in a matter involving 
expulsion.  This prevents the GEB or even the Assembly from expelling a 
member.  Only the full membership can do that.

Thus the tragedy of 1990, when Ed Jahns, the Chairperson of that years' 
GEB, was expelled, might not be repeated.  That year there was a fight 
between the GEB and the GST as to whether the IWW office was being run 
properly.  Both sides were unrelenting, the fight escalated, and the 
issue of who would be expelled went to the assembly.  The assembly 
happened to be held in a locale where the GST had a great deal more 
support than he did in the union as a whole.  When Ed Jahns went to 
appeal the finding of the Assembly, he was denied that right, his enemies 
claiming (correctly) the time allowed for appeal had passed.  Not only 
was this unfair to Ed personally (though it is possible he would have 
lost in a referendum as well), but it soured a huge number of Wobblies on 
the union, not just Ed's supporters.  As far as I know, after this 
incident the IWW hit its lowest number of paid members since its 
inception in 1905.

With a 3/4 majority required for expulsion, those occasional members who 
are power hungry and destructive would have to find more creative ways of 
getting rid of the FW's who oppose them.

---------------------
Petition for Referendum to Ammend the General By-Laws of the IWW
 
The undersigned IWW members in good standing hereby petition that the 
following be submitted to a referendum of the members:

The following shall be added as Article III, Section 8 of the IWW General 
By-Laws:

"No member shall be expelled from the IWW except upon a referendum vote 
of the membership, with 3/4 or more of those voting upholding the charges 
and penalty of expulsion.  When charges with the penalty of expulsion are 
upheld against them at earlier stages of the charges process, appeals to 
a vote of the entire membership will be automatic."

Date     Signature                          Card Number
--------------------------------------------------------



Please circulate this petition locally and return it promptly to:
 
IWW General Headquarters
103 W. Michigan Ave.
Ypsilanti, MI 48197-5438

Also please send me a message (newt@iww.org) containing signers names and 
x-numbers so I can keep track of how many signatures have been sent.

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Subject: Petition for Referendum:  Concerning Charges
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Introducing a Petition to Amend Article III, Sec. 6(a) of the IWW By-Laws

Written by Bill Meyers x337515 

Article III, Sec. 6(a) of the IWW By-Laws would never be added to our 
Constitution today if it wasn't a hand-me-down from a time of folly in 
the past.  I can see the good intention in it, but its real-life results 
have been extremely negative for our union.

The said section currently reads:  "The circulation of accusation by one 
member against another, unless substantiated by charges filed according to 
these provision, shall be grounds for expulsion of the member circulating 
such matters."

What constitutes an accusation, and what constitutes circulating one?  Is 
any criticism an accusation?  Is circulating a difference in opinion an 
accusation?

Taken to an extreme, the entire life of our organization would consist of 
filing charges against each other, otherwise we ourselves could be 
charged whenever we dared to criticize anyone.  

In fact this section has been used, selectively, as a bludgeon in personal 
and factional fights.  Want to get rid of an opinionated and infuential 
FW?  S/He's bound to have said something somewhere along the line that 
sounds like an accusation.  Then it becomes a popularity contest:  a 
majority (possibly a rump majority, created by refusing to recognize some 
members's right to vote) of members who vote in the final stage of the 
process can deprive a Wobbly of membership.

Frankly, it's overkill.  Did someone falsely accuse someone else of 
something, purposely or not?  The proper "punishment" is to set the 
record straight.

I know of many instances when members wanted to critcize a member 
(usually an officer), but did not because they did not want to actually 
bring charges, which seems officious, and did not want to be charged 
themselves for not bringing charges.  Which is what this section really 
does:  it punishes people for not bringing charges.

The Free Speech Fights are an important part of Wobbly history.  This 
section deprives the members of the right to free speech.  It should 
never have been in the Constitution.  I urge members to vote for this 
Amendment.

---------------------------

Petition for Referendum to Amend the General By-Laws of the IWW

The undersigned IWW members in good standing hereby petition that the 
following be submitted to a referendum of the members:

Article III, Sec. 6(a) of the IWW General By-Laws shall be amended to 
read as follows:

"The circulation of untrue accusations by one member against another, 
unless substantiated by charges filed according to these provisions, 
shall be grounds for charges to be brought against that member.  The 
maximum penalty will be the printing of the findings from the charges 
process in the General Organization Bulletin.  However, if the accuser 
can prove that the accuzation are true, then that finding shall be 
printed in the General Organizing Bulletin."

The grounds to alter this section are that it has been subject to great 
abuse by some members, and has been used as a gag rule to prevent free 
and democratic discussion within the union.

Date      Signature                Card Number
--------------------------------------------------------------



Please circulate this petition locally and return it promptly to:

IWW General Headquarters
103 W. Michigan Ave.
Ypsilanti, MI 48197-5438

Also please send me a message (newt@iww.org) with signers names and 
x-numbers so I can keep track of how many signatures have been sent.

Thank You,

Corin Royal Drummond x343030
San Francisco California

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Introducing a Petition to add and Article IV Sect. 1(i) to the IWW 
Constituion

This ammendment, I admit is a bit tricky.  There is a tendency for 
egoists and power-hungry types in the union to seek the offices of GST 
and GEB member.  Usually the members know each other well enough to 
prevent this type of person from being elected.  But there is a powergul 
pull for perfectly honest members, elected to these offices, to begin 
acting like they are the President of the USA and its Supreme Court, 
rather than simple custodians.

This amendment puts limits on the power of the international officers.  
Generally, I think that is good.  I suppose a GMB or IU could run amok, 
but consider this:  no IU or GMB has control over any finances except its 
own.  On the other hand, if a GST runs amok, not only are our 
international finances in danger, but those of our GMB's and IU's are as 
well. 

I expect a lot of debate about this.  Wether it passes or not, hopefully 
at the end of the process the membership will better understand the 
relationship of the parts to the union as a whole.

--------------------------------------------------

Petition for Referendum to Amend the Constitution of the IWW

The undersigned IWW members in good standing hereby petition that the 
following be submitted to a referendum of the members:

The following shall be added to the IWW Constitution:

Article IV Section 1 (i)

The Industrial Workers of the World is a creation of the workers, 
organized in Industrial Unions and General Membership Branches. The 
General Administration is a servant to, not a master over, the 
constituent parts of the union. Therefore each IU and GMB shall be 
responsible to audit its own financial records. Each IU and GMB shall 
report its findings to the General Administration once a year. The 
General Administration, however, has no right to audit the Industrial 
Unions or General Membership Branches. When funds are granted from the 
General Administration to any member, IU, GMB, committee or group, the 
use of those funds shall be reported in the manner originally requested 
by the General Administration; but such reports will be accepted by the 
General Administration as given. Nothing in this subsection, however, 
will relieve delegates from the reporting requirements of Article IV, 
Section 1 (h).


NAME		SIGNED				CARD NUMBER
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Please circulate this petition locally and return promptly to:

IWW General Headquarters
103 W. Michigan Ave.
Ypsilanti, MI 48197-5438

Also, please drop me a note (newt@cruzio.com) including the names and 
x-numbers of signers so I can keep track of how many signatures we've got 
so far.

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From: bh295@freenet.carleton.ca (Lee Murray)

>>> Forwarded Message:
From: andyrose@netcom.com (San Francisco Fractal Factory)
To: fnb-l@webcom.com

> Date: Thu Apr 13 18:23:31 1995
> From: Johnn Tan <jtan@envirolink.org>
> Subject: Re: Food Not Bombs serves children
> 
> San Francisco Fractal Factory writes:
> >Trend watchers:
> >Four young children were served yesterday at United Nations Plaza
> >in San Francisco.  Except for children of activists I have never
> >seen this before in four years of service.  Their parents were 
> >in attendance as well.
> 
> Andy, it happens all the time here in Ogden!
> Poor neghbourhood kids come around on a regular basis.
> Some even take home food for their working parents.
> 
> Johnn

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Lenny Flank writes:

>> we need to produce some booklets concerning labor law,

Now there's an idea.   But we need them state by state -- is that
right?  I suppose these booklets could be somehow connected with
this GDC idea.

We ought to have a look at the AFL/CLC booklets too.

>> organizing tactics etc ....

Definitely.  There is room for different approaches to the same
thing,  because we are dealing with different kinds of people.
While the official IWW manual might be the basic version,   a
branch,  or IU can have its own org manual[s]  as long as they
don't violate const.

How about a FAQ  [Frequently Asked Questions About Organizing]
for the IWW-WWW pages and the Spunkoid archive?  Who's gonna write
that up?   FAQ's, you know,  are considered by some to be the new
route to literary fame.

> The LV Branch was working on these projects until we got
> sidetracked by all this legal baloney.

Slapp'd!  WEll we ought to fool them and get you back on track.
How can we do that?  So you have a draft organizing manual ---
is this diffrent from the Direct Action manual?

> we need to set up a network of "roving organizers"
> who can be dispatched to where they are needed to help out with
setti
> up a campaign, providing organizing advice, etc.  (The problem
here,
> always, would be $$$---we would at the minimum need to meet this
> person's expenses while she/he is doing organizing for us.)

Yeah we got to do what we can without the $$$.  `Network' is the
way to look at it, delegates who are willing and able,  and don't
have to travel far.   We want more education and discussion on the
basics of workplace organizing.  It is a fairly simple formula
basically, but like any lesson it helps to repeat it a few times.
Because the delegate has to turn around and teach it to the
workers on the scene,   so she has to feel pretty confident about
the steps.
---

I wonder how many branches are in cities where there are bicycle
couriers?  It seems to me with this activity in Britain  would be
a good time for us to do a little outreach.  I know San Francisco
tried them a few moons ago,  around the time of the previous
London efforts.  They are wide open here in Ottawa.  But we are
not on the inside,  so I think we need to get hold of those
British literature  so we can just tell them,  look this is
happening in London just sign this card and Wob's your
international union.  But I guess we need to talk about some gains
that can be won,  and how to go about it in their unique
situation.

--- CLMurray/Ottawa
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Lenny Flank writes:

>> we need to produce some booklets concerning labor law,

Now there's an idea.   But we need them state by state -- is that
right?  I suppose these booklets could be somehow connected with
this GDC idea.

We ought to have a look at the AFL/CLC booklets too.

>> organizing tactics etc ....

Definitely.  There is room for different approaches to the same
thing,  because we are dealing with different kinds of people.
While the official IWW manual might be the basic version,   a
branch,  or IU can have its own org manual[s]  as long as they
don't violate const.

How about a FAQ  [Frequently Asked Questions About Organizing]
for the IWW-WWW pages and the Spunkoid archive?  Who's gonna write
that up?   FAQ's, you know,  are considered by some to be the new
route to literary fame.

> The LV Branch was working on these projects until we got
> sidetracked by all this legal baloney.

Slapp'd!  WEll we ought to fool them and get you back on track.
How can we do that?  So you have a draft organizing manual ---
is this diffrent from the Direct Action manual?

> we need to set up a network of "roving organizers"
> who can be dispatched to where they are needed to help out with
setti
> up a campaign, providing organizing advice, etc.  (The problem
here,
> always, would be $$$---we would at the minimum need to meet this
> person's expenses while she/he is doing organizing for us.)

Yeah we got to do what we can without the $$$.  `Network' is the
way to look at it, delegates who are willing and able,  and don't
have to travel far.   We want more education and discussion on the
basics of workplace organizing.  It is a fairly simple formula
basically, but like any lesson it helps to repeat it a few times.
Because the delegate has to turn around and teach it to the
workers on the scene,   so she has to feel pretty confident about
the steps.
---

I wonder how many branches are in cities where there are bicycle
couriers?  It seems to me with this activity in Britain  would be
a good time for us to do a little outreach.  I know San Francisco
tried them a few moons ago,  around the time of the previous
London efforts.  They are wide open here in Ottawa.  But we are
not on the inside,  so I think we need to get hold of those
British literature  so we can just tell them,  look this is
happening in London just sign this card and Wob's your
international union.  But I guess we need to talk about some gains
that can be won,  and how to go about it in their unique
situation.

--- CLMurray/Ottawa
###


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From: "X341697 (Deke Nihilson)" <deke@fletcher.iww.org>


The following appears in today's edition of a local right-wing, 
reactionary Gay Establishment newspaper. This is FYI only and offered 
without further comment.


from the S.F. Sentinel, 4/26/95, pg. 3

LAST CALL SOUNDED AT THE ENDUP
by Sister Dana Van Iquity

It was the end of the Endup, San Francisco's longest-running gay bar, 
when on April 24, the club closed its leather-lined doors forever.

Featured in Armistead Maupin's "Tales of the City" series, the Endup went 
through many changes in its 22-year history; it humbly began as a sleazy 
hotel where porn films were shot, according to Endup historian and 
muralist Brett Crawford. It gained notoriety as the site of Madhouse, the 
reggae-themed Club Dread, Kit Kat, Vertigo on and the Sunday tea dance, 
affectionately known as "tweakers' church."

Endup management attributes the club's demise to previous owners, who 
they say mismanaged the club's finances. The aging building has also been 
cited with several building code violations. The establishment has had 
Chapter 11 bankruptcy status since February.

"I suppose I'm still in denial about the club's closing," said Simon 
Falkingham, Endup manager for the last four years. He said the only way 
the property could be a club again would be to level the existing 
structure and rebuild from scratch, which wouldn't be a cost-effective move.

Madhouse hostess Madeline spoke from her customary perch on the bar 
Friday. "It's over, honey," she told The Sentinel. "Watch out for the 
wrecking balls!"

"There are a lot of people who don't know this is the last weekend for 
the Endup, and they are going to be rudely surprised when they try to 
drop in as usual," said Endup art director Markus Barsanti. He said the 
Endup will most likely end up as a parking lot. "It's a real loss for 
this city."

The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence performed a last rites ceremony and 
exorcism of any possible anti-gay spirits lingering on the premesis.

*****end of article*****


X341697

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     Please join with the Salt Lake City General Membership Branch 
of the Industrial Workers of the World in celebrating May Day--the
_real_ Labor Day
 
     The Utah IWW has planned a series of events for the weekend of
April 29th, in recognition of International Workers' Day.  On Saturday,
beginning at 12:30 pm, we have scheduled a rally at the pavilion in the
northeast corner of Liberty Park  (900 South 700 East, Salt Lake City).
There, speakers from the IWW and Joe Hill Club (CPUSA) will remind Utah's
workers of the origins and history of May Day, remembering Joe Hill, Frank
Little, the Haymarket martyrs, and our other fallen comrades.  Then local
wobblies, along with speakers from a number of different labor, leftist,
and progressive groups will address issues of concern to today's working
class.  These include California's racist Proposition 187, the Utah
legislature's recent disembowelment of worker compensation laws, and
the current attack on the poor by the United States Congress.
 
     A free, hot lunch will be provided at Saturday's rally by 
Food Not Bombs of Salt Lake.   
 
     On Monday, May 1st, Utah Phillips, Rosalie Sorrells, and Mark Ross
will perform in concert at the Tower Theater (900 South 900 East, Salt
Lake City).  This is the first time that these three artists have performed
together in over twenty years, and the concert promises to be a first-rate
labor music extravaganza.  The show is scheduled to begin at 7:00 pm.
Tickets are available at the door for $7, with a $2 discount for anyone
showing a valid union card. 
 
     Our intent in organizing these events is two-fold: First, it is an
opportunity for working people to share time together as friends.  Second,
and certainly more importantly, we want to educate folks as to the meaning
of May Day, remind them of the many people who fought and died to improve
the lives of workers, and fan the flames of discontent regarding current
issues.
 
     For more information please telephone (801) 485-1969 or (801) 566-0965.
You can also e-mail lgaylord@envirolink.org or jenn1ww@aol.com.
 
                             SOLIDARITY!


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                  POTLUCK!


   When?  Friday, May 5, 1995 at 7:30pm
   
   Where?  At Mike Ballard's humble apartment, located in poyfect Palo Alto.
           3833 Park Blvd. Apt#22  Phone: (415)424-1613

   What to bring?  Something you like to eat or drink and share with others.

   Universal
   Directions--this should work for anyone:  Take 101 from San Francisco
   towards San Jose.  Exit at the Oregon Expressway.  The exit merely 
   dumps you on to the Expressway (a 35mpg misnomer) going the right 
   direction.  Proceed about 2 miles--you'll go beneath an underpass over
   which the Cal Train travels.  BTW, if you're taking Cal Train, stop
   at California Avenue and then proceed up the street to the first left
   on Park Blvd--warning, it is about ten blocks to my apartment.  Now,
   you'll come up to the intersection of El Camino.  Get in the left
   turn space and then proceed up El Camino about 4 blocks to Curtner.
   Turn left on Curtner and go down to Park--it's as far as you can go.
   Look off across the street to your right.  You'll see the apartment
   complex, I live in.  Go to the entrance--there is a sign outside that
   says Boardwalk.  Push the 22 button and I'll buzz you in.  Once in,
   take the stairs to your left and go up not one floor, but two.  Turn
   left again and then at the corner, left once more.  Walk down to the
   second door on your left--to the right are the Cal Train tracks and 
   you're there.  Look for the Magritte postcard on the door.
   This potluck is part of an ongoing series of first Friday of the month
   celebrations--a moveable feast, so to speak.  What the heck.  It's
   Cinco de Mayo, Karl's 177th birthday and thank the goddesses, the
   end of yet another week of work.  It's also my turn to host, so I 
   thought I'd give a the best people a chance to make it.  If you need any 
   other excuses, I will be happy to supply them. 
   
   Mike B)  
   and his cat Mme Hulot.
   




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From: Luther Gaylord <lgaylord@envirolink.org>

     Please join with the Salt Lake City General Membership Branch 
of the Industrial Workers of the World in celebrating May Day--the
_real_ Labor Day
 
     The Utah IWW has planned a series of events for the weekend of
April 29th, in recognition of International Workers' Day.  On Saturday,
beginning at 12:30 pm, we have scheduled a rally at the pavilion in the
northeast corner of Liberty Park  (900 South 700 East, Salt Lake City).
There, speakers from the IWW and Joe Hill Club (CPUSA) will remind Utah's
workers of the origins and history of May Day, remembering Joe Hill, Frank
Little, the Haymarket martyrs, and our other fallen comrades.  Then local
wobblies, along with speakers from a number of different labor, leftist,
and progressive groups will address issues of concern to today's working
class.  These include California's racist Proposition 187, the Utah
legislature's recent disembowelment of worker compensation laws, and
the current attack on the poor by the United States Congress.
  
     On Monday, May 1st, Utah Phillips, Rosalie Sorrells, and Mark Ross
will perform in concert at the Tower Theater (900 South 900 East, Salt
Lake City).  This is the first time that these three artists have performed
together in over twenty years, and the concert promises to be a first-rate
labor music extravaganza.  The show is scheduled to begin at 7:00 pm.
Tickets are available at the door for $7, with a $2 discount for anyone
showing a valid union card. 
 
     Our intent in organizing these events is two-fold: First, it is an
opportunity for working people to share time together as friends.  Second,
and certainly more importantly, we want to educate folks as to the meaning
of May Day, remind them of the many people who fought and died to improve
the lives of workers, and fan the flames of discontent regarding current
issues.
 
     For more information please telephone (801) 485-1969 or (801) 566-0965.
You can also e-mail lgaylord@envirolink.org or jenn1ww@aol.com.
 
                             SOLIDARITY!




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From: Luther Gaylord <lgaylord@envirolink.org>


                MAY DAY--THE REAL LABOR DAY
 
May 1st, International Workers' Day, commemorates the historic
struggle of working people throughout the world, and is recognized
in every country except the United States, Canada, and South
Africa.  This despite the fact that the holiday began in the 1880s
in the United States, with the fight for an eight-hour work day.
 
In 1884, the Federation of Organized Trades and Labor Unions passed
a resolution stating that eight hours would constitute a legal
day's work from and after May 1, 1886.  The resolution called for
a general strike to achieve the goal, since legislative methods had
already failed.  With workers being forced to work ten, twelve, and
fourteen hours a day, rank-and-file support for the eight-hour
movement grew rapidly, despite the indifference and hostility of
many union leaders.  By April 1886, 250,000 workers were involved
in the May Day movement.
 
The heart of the movement was in Chicago, organized primarily by
the anarchist International Working People's Association. 
Businesses and the state were terrified by the increasingly
revolutionary character of the movement and prepared accordingly. 
The police and militia were increased in size and received new and
powerful weapons financed by local business leaders.  Chicago's
Commercial Club purchased a $2000 machine gun for the Illinois
National Guard to be used against strikers.  Nevertheless, by May
1st, the movement had already won gains for many Chicago clothing
cutters, shoemakers, and packing-house workers.  But on May 3,
1886, police fired into a crowd of strikers at the McCormick Reaper
Works Factory, killing four and wounding many.  Anarchists called
for a mass meeting the next day in Haymarket Square to protest the
brutality.
 
The meeting proceeded without incident, and by the time the last
speaker was on the platform, the rainy gathering was already
breaking up, with only a few hundred people remaining.  It was then
that 180 cops marched into the square and ordered the meeting to
disperse.  As the speakers climbed down from the platform, a bomb
was thrown at the police, killing one and injuring seventy.  Police
responded by firing into the crowd, killing one worker and injuring
many others.
 
Although it was never determined who threw the bomb, the incident
was used as an excuse to attack the entire Left and labor movement. 
Police ransacked the homes and offices of suspected radicals, and
hundreds were arrested without charge.  Anarchists in particular
were harassed, and eight of Chicago's most active were charged with
conspiracy to murder in connection with the Haymarket bombing.  A
kangaroo court found all eight guilty, despite a lack of evidence
connecting any of them to the bomb-thrower (only one was even
present at the meeting, and he was on the speakers' platform), and
they were sentenced to die.  Albert Parsons, August Spies, Adolf
Fischer, and George Engel were hanged on November 11, 1887.  Louis
Lingg committed suicide in prison,  The remaining three were
finally pardoned in 1893.
 
It is not surprising that the state, business leaders, mainstream
union officials, and the media would want to hide the true history
of May Day, portraying it as a holiday celebrated only in Moscow's
Red Square.  In its attempt to erase the history and significance
of May Day, the United States government declared May 1st to be
"Law Day", and gave us instead Labor Day--a holiday devoid of any
historical significance other than its importance as a day to swill
beer and sit in traffic jams.
 
Nevertheless, rather than suppressing labor and radical movements,
the events of 1886 and the execution of the Chicago anarchists
actually mobilized many generations of radicals.  Emma Goldman, a
young immigrant at the time, later pointed to the Haymarket affair
as her political birth.  Lucy Parsons, widow of Albert Parsons,
called upon the poor to direct their anger toward those
responsible--the rich.  Instead of disappearing, the anarchist
movement only grew in the wake of Haymarket, spawning other radical
movements and organizations, including the Industrial Workers of
the World. 
 
By covering up the history of May Day, the state, business,
mainstream unions and the media have covered up an entire legacy of
dissent in this country.  They are terrified of what a similarly
militant and organized movement could accomplish today, and they
suppress the seeds of such organization whenever and wherever they
can.  As workers, we must recognize and commemorate May Day not
only for it's historical significance, but also as a time to
organize around issues of vital importance to working-class people
today.  
 
As IWW songwriter Joe Hill wrote in one of his most powerful songs:
 
          Workers of the world, awaken!
          Rise in all your splendid might
          Take the wealth that you are making,
          It belongs to you by right.
          No one will for bread be crying
          We'll have freedom, love and health,
          When the grand red flag is flying
          In the Workers' Commonwealth.


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SY>____________________________________________________________________________

SY>"We are convinced that freedom without Socialism is privilege
SY>and injustice, and that Socialism without freedom                Jason Wehli

SY>is slavery and brutality."                           Email: <jason@ee.pdx.ed

SY>-- Mikhail Bakunin.                        Home: http://www.ee.pdx.edu/~jaso

SY>____________________________________________________________________________


SY>---------- Forwarded message ----------
SY>Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 22:04:21 -0600 (CST)
SY>From: Elliott Young (Colegio de la Frontera) <eyoung@colmex.mx>
SY>To: list Chiapas <chiapas-l@profmexis.dgsca.unam.mx>
SY>Subject: Ruta 100, Dialogue: Truth v. Gov't

SY>Mexio City report, April 25, 1995, by Elliott Young eyoung@colmex.mx

SY>Compas,

SY>	Direct confrontations between the state and workers are beginning
SY>to resurface dramatically in the capitol(al) city.  Although the peso has
SY>temporarily stabilized at 6 to the dollar and the stock market has
SY>remained fairly even for the past couple of weeks, the social effects of
SY>economic austerity begin to be seen on the streets.
SY>	The most obvious example of economic austerity and political
SY>repression is the government liquidation of the militant Sutaur union
SY>representing Ruta 100 bus drivers in Mexico City.  Ruta 100 has been very
SY>prominent in their support of the struggle in Chiapas and the government
SY>has clearly retaliated.  After declaring Ruta 100 bankrupt a couple
SY>of weeks ago, union leaders were jailed, and workers fired.  The
SY>ridiculousness of the government's excuse for the crackdown became
SY>quickly apparent when the bus line was reopenned with new workers (scabs)
SY>and passengers allowed to ride free.  For the first few days all of the
SY>buses were followed by police cars, with cops riding in the buses to
SY>prevent angry bus drivers who had been fired  from expressing their
SY>discontent.
SY>	Yesterday Sutaur called a major rally in the Zocalo which drew
SY>tens of thousands of supporters according to La Jornada.  En route,
SY>protestors stopped the scab buses, drew graffiti on them, and  punctured
SY>tires on 23.  Workers shouted "Gobierno, burges, te manchaste
SY>otra vez" (Bourgeois government, you soiled yourself again) as they
SY>marched to the Zocalo from different points in the city.  Today, buses
SY>ran along the Ruta 100 lines with banners draped on the buses announcing
SY>free rides.  One begins to wonder how a bankrupt bus line can rectify its
SY>financial situation by firing its workers and reducing the fares to
SY>zero.  Meanwhile, Sutaur has set up a permanent presence in the Zocalo
SY>where speeches are given all day long.  The Zocalo is also home to
SY>several other groups who have set up camp to demand a peaceful solution
SY>in Chiapas and justice in the rest of Mexico.  At this point, the
SY>permanent encampments, vendors of Marcos posters and T-shirts and videos
SY>about the EZLN, have become part of the scenery in the Zocalo along with
SY>the neo-indigenous dancers and tourist buses.
SY>	As the government speaks of dialogue in Chiapas, but refuses
SY>to negotiate with indigenous people around, it also shuts down the spaces
SY>for free expression in Mexico City.  A few days ago, Radio Pirata, a
SY>low-power pirate radio station which broadcast from plaza Hidalgo,
SY>Coyoacan, on Saturday afternoon, was shut down by the police.  Even
SY>though the radio station had requested a permit to broadcast, their not
SY>being able to produce the permit was grounds for the closure.  Radio
SY>Pirata producers argue that such an action violates the right to freedom
SY>of expression that is guaranteed in the Mexican Constitution.
SY>	 I begin to wonder how much free expression will be left in the
SY> US after US Congress passes its  draconian "counter-terrorism" bill in
SY>reaction to ultra-right-wing bombings.  The forces of reaction are the
SY>spectre that haunts the world today. Yet, the Mexican government's paranoia
SY>over the mere presence of  several thousand, poor indigenous chiapanecos at
SY>the
SY>dialogue for peace means that we are not without strength.  If they are
SY>afraid it is because they know that the EZLN represents legitimate
SY>demands and they are scared that the rest of the world will discover this
SY>basic truth.  If nothing else, we should at least make sure this truth
SY>reaches as many people as possible.

SY>Solidarity,
SY>Elliott Young




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From: l gaylord <l.gaylord@m.cc.utah.edu>

     Please join with the Salt Lake City General Membership Branch 
of the Industrial Workers of the World in celebrating May Day--the
_real_ Labor Day
 
     The Utah IWW has planned a series of events for the weekend of
April 29th, in recognition of International Workers' Day.  On Saturday,
beginning at 12:30 pm, we have scheduled a rally at the pavilion in the
northeast corner of Liberty Park  (900 South 700 East, Salt Lake City).
There, speakers from the IWW and Joe Hill Club (CPUSA) will remind Utah's
workers of the origins and history of May Day, remembering Joe Hill, Frank
Little, the Haymarket martyrs, and our other fallen comrades.  Then local
wobblies, along with speakers from a number of different labor, leftist,
and progressive groups will address issues of concern to today's working
class.  These include California's racist Proposition 187, the Utah
legislature's recent disembowelment of worker compensation laws, and
the current attack on the poor by the United States Congress.
 
     A free, hot lunch will be provided at Saturday's rally by 
Food Not Bombs of Salt Lake.   
 
     On Monday, May 1st, Utah Phillips, Rosalie Sorrells, and Mark Ross
will perform in concert at the Tower Theater (900 South 900 East, Salt
Lake City).  This is the first time that these three artists have performed
together in over twenty years, and the concert promises to be a first-rate
labor music extravaganza.  The show is scheduled to begin at 7:00 pm.
Tickets are available at the door for $7, with a $2 discount for anyone
showing a valid union card. 
 
     Our intent in organizing these events is two-fold: First, it is an
opportunity for working people to share time together as friends.  Second,
and certainly more importantly, we want to educate folks as to the meaning
of May Day, remind them of the many people who fought and died to improve
the lives of workers, and fan the flames of discontent regarding current
issues.
 
     For more information please telephone (801) 485-1969 or (801) 566-0965.
You can also e-mail lgaylord@envirolink.org or jenn1ww@aol.com.
 
                             SOLIDARITY!


From notes@igc.apc.org Fri Apr 28 01:15:31 1995
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From: l gaylord <l.gaylord@m.cc.utah.edu>
Subject: Haymarket and the history of May Day

 
                MAY DAY--THE REAL LABOR DAY
 
May 1st, International Workers' Day, commemorates the historic
struggle of working people throughout the world, and is recognized
in every country except the United States, Canada, and South
Africa.  This despite the fact that the holiday began in the 1880s
in the United States, with the fight for an eight-hour work day.
 
In 1884, the Federation of Organized Trades and Labor Unions passed
a resolution stating that eight hours would constitute a legal
day's work from and after May 1, 1886.  The resolution called for
a general strike to achieve the goal, since legislative methods had
already failed.  With workers being forced to work ten, twelve, and
fourteen hours a day, rank-and-file support for the eight-hour
movement grew rapidly, despite the indifference and hostility of
many union leaders.  By April 1886, 250,000 workers were involved
in the May Day movement.
 
The heart of the movement was in Chicago, organized primarily by
the anarchist International Working People's Association. 
Businesses and the state were terrified by the increasingly
revolutionary character of the movement and prepared accordingly. 
The police and militia were increased in size and received new and
powerful weapons financed by local business leaders.  Chicago's
Commercial Club purchased a $2000 machine gun for the Illinois
National Guard to be used against strikers.  Nevertheless, by May
1st, the movement had already won gains for many Chicago clothing
cutters, shoemakers, and packing-house workers.  But on May 3,
1886, police fired into a crowd of strikers at the McCormick Reaper
Works Factory, killing four and wounding many.  Anarchists called
for a mass meeting the next day in Haymarket Square to protest the
brutality.
 
The meeting proceeded without incident, and by the time the last
speaker was on the platform, the rainy gathering was already
breaking up, with only a few hundred people remaining.  It was then
that 180 cops marched into the square and ordered the meeting to
disperse.  As the speakers climbed down from the platform, a bomb
was thrown at the police, killing one and injuring seventy.  Police
responded by firing into the crowd, killing one worker and injuring
many others.
 
Although it was never determined who threw the bomb, the incident
was used as an excuse to attack the entire Left and labor movement. 
Police ransacked the homes and offices of suspected radicals, and
hundreds were arrested without charge.  Anarchists in particular
were harassed, and eight of Chicago's most active were charged with
conspiracy to murder in connection with the Haymarket bombing.  A
kangaroo court found all eight guilty, despite a lack of evidence
connecting any of them to the bomb-thrower (only one was even
present at the meeting, and he was on the speakers' platform), and
they were sentenced to die.  Albert Parsons, August Spies, Adolf
Fischer, and George Engel were hanged on November 11, 1887.  Louis
Lingg committed suicide in prison,  The remaining three were
finally pardoned in 1893.
 
It is not surprising that the state, business leaders, mainstream
union officials, and the media would want to hide the true history
of May Day, portraying it as a holiday celebrated only in Moscow's
Red Square.  In its attempt to erase the history and significance
of May Day, the United States government declared May 1st to be
"Law Day", and gave us instead Labor Day--a holiday devoid of any
historical significance other than its importance as a day to swill
beer and sit in traffic jams.
 
Nevertheless, rather than suppressing labor and radical movements,
the events of 1886 and the execution of the Chicago anarchists
actually mobilized many generations of radicals.  Emma Goldman, a
young immigrant at the time, later pointed to the Haymarket affair
as her political birth.  Lucy Parsons, widow of Albert Parsons,
called upon the poor to direct their anger toward those
responsible--the rich.  Instead of disappearing, the anarchist
movement only grew in the wake of Haymarket, spawning other radical
movements and organizations, including the Industrial Workers of
the World. 
 
By covering up the history of May Day, the state, business,
mainstream unions and the media have covered up an entire legacy of
dissent in this country.  They are terrified of what a similarly
militant and organized movement could accomplish today, and they
suppress the seeds of such organization whenever and wherever they
can.  As workers, we must recognize and commemorate May Day not
only for it's historical significance, but also as a time to
organize around issues of vital importance to working-class people
today.  
 
As IWW songwriter Joe Hill wrote in one of his most powerful songs:
 
          Workers of the world, awaken!
          Rise in all your splendid might
          Take the wealth that you are making,
          It belongs to you by right.
          No one will for bread be crying
          We'll have freedom, love and health,
          When the grand red flag is flying
          In the Workers' Commonwealth.



From deke@wps.com Fri Apr 28 09:15:10 1995
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                  POTLUCK!


   When?  Friday, May 5, 1995 at 7:30pm
   
   Where?  At Mike Ballard's humble apartment, located in poyfect Palo Alto.
           3833 Park Blvd. Apt#22  Phone: (415)424-1613

   What to bring?  Something you like to eat or drink and share with others.

   Universal
   Directions--this should work for anyone:  Take 101 from San Francisco
   towards San Jose.  Exit at the Oregon Expressway.  The exit merely 
   dumps you on to the Expressway (a 35mph misnomer) going the right 
   direction.  Proceed about 2 miles--you'll go beneath an underpass over
   which the Cal Train travels.  BTW, if you're taking Cal Train, stop
   at California Avenue and then proceed up the street to the first left
   on Park Blvd--warning, it is about ten blocks to my apartment.  Now,
   you'll come up to the intersection of El Camino.  Get in the left
   turn space and then proceed up El Camino about 4 blocks to Curtner.
   Turn left on Curtner and go down to Park--it's as far as you can go.
   Look off across the street to your right.  You'll see the apartment
   complex, I live in.  Go to the entrance--there is a sign outside that
   says PARK PLACE.  Push the 22 button and I'll buzz you in.  Once in,
   take the stairs to your left and go up not one floor, but two.  Turn
   left again and then at the corner, left once more.  Walk down to the
   second door on your left--to the right are the Cal Train tracks and 
   you're there.  Look for the Magritte postcard on the door.
   This potluck is part of an ongoing series of first Friday of the month
   celebrations--a moveable feast, so to speak.  What the heck.  It's
   Cinco de Mayo, Karl's 177th birthday and thank the goddesses, the
   end of yet another week of work.  It's also my turn to host, so I 
   thought I'd give all the best people a chance to make it.  If you need 
   any other excuses, I will be happy to supply them. 
   
   Mike B)  
   and his cat Mme Hulot.
   






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From:
Subject: Rally on May 1st

FROM: Lansing WSA-IWA, Lansing, Michigan
Please support this effort to build an independent syndicalist union at Lansing
Community College. FAXed letters of support can be sent to: 517-483-1854, send
to: ATTENTION-LCC Board of Trustees. HAPPY MAY DAY COMRADES!  Lansing WSA
*** Forwarding note from MK1299  --LCC      04/26/95 08:27 ***
To:

From: LCC-CTU
Subject: Rally on May 1st

A rally supporting the LCC-CTU request for voluntary recognition will be
held on Monday, May 1st at 5pm outside of the Hermann conference center. If
you haven't heard, the LCC Clerical Technical Union has been organized to
represent part-time CTPs at LCC. Your solidarity and support would be much
appreciated at this time. Please support us by attending this rally and the
Board of Trustees Committee of the Whole meeting which will follow. This
meeting is where the Board has committed to making a decision on our request.
We hope to see you there!

The Organizing Committee



From gnat@iww.org Fri Apr 28 14:55:21 1995
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From: x341841 <gnat@iww.org>
Reply-To: webmaster@iww.org
To: "X342281 (Crys-Vad Hyphus)" <vad@fletcher.iww.org>
cc: Carlos Murray <indwrk@web.apc.org>, Mitch Rice <mitch@bluemarble.net>,
        deke@wps.com, vad@wps.com, josie@fletcher.iww.org,
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On Thu, 27 Apr 1995, X342281 (Crys-Vad Hyphus) wrote:

> Hi gnat,
> 
> We've had problems accessing the IWW home page lately; we get a 
> message that "NetScape network connection was refused by the server: 
> fletcher.iww.org. Server may not be accepting connections or may be 
> busy." Is this just because fletcher's working like a dog or because 
> you're making improvements, or whatever? There is a lot of interest here 
> in getting stuff on & off line here. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Vad.
> 

Hi Vad, sorry we didn't fix this earlier.  Either through some typo or a
weird RCS reversion our http port specification became set wrong.  (At
least it wasn't the Feds.)

IMPORTANT:  You should talk to Deke about maintaining ftp access from the
Santa Cruz office, through ucsc.edu -- and especially through any other
ppp connections you may have that we don't know about; he wants to tweak
the security structure some more & it may affect your ability to upload
preformatted Web stuff. 


From gnat@iww.org Fri Apr 28 22:18:18 1995
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From: x341841 <gnat@iww.org>
To: trippy@sfsu.edu
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I think  you said you'd lost my email address.  It's gnat@iww.org

Let me know if you want any help setting up internet stuff on your
computer. 


From gnat@iww.org Fri Apr 28 22:54:42 1995
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From: x341841 <gnat@iww.org>
Reply-To: webmaster@iww.org
To: jeni@cats.ucsc.edu, Dan Jalkut <snozer@cats.ucsc.edu>
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Just thought I'd say it.  You can look at our web project on Netscape or
lynx at

http://iww.org/

Let us know if you want to post any art or Music Collective stuff or
whatever; our institutional mission is pretty compatible w/the general
Santa Cruz punk political trip & we need all the help we can get. 


From gnat@iww.org Fri Apr 28 23:55:13 1995
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On Fri, 28 Apr 1995 snozer@cats.ucsc.edu wrote:

> Wow! I didn't expect to be hearing from you! How are you doing? I will 
> check out the iww page as soon as I get a chance on campus with a 
> decent graphics computer.  Are you livin in SF?

Yes yes we are in the City.  Actually our graphics content is being
maintained by this guy in Indiana we only know through the net. 
Everything we've done ourselves you can look at with lynx -- sad but true. 


From gnat@iww.org Sat Apr 29 00:22:30 1995
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From: x341841 <gnat@iww.org>
Reply-To: webmaster@iww.org
To: Dan Jalkut <snozer@cats.ucsc.edu>
cc: deke@wps.com, vad@wps.com, newt@fletcher.iww.org
Subject: talky net net talk
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Do you know if talk works over the net?  When you replied so quickly to 
my email thing I tried talk snozer@cats.ucsc.edu but it said you were 
refusing messages or something.

From gnat@iww.org Sat Apr 29 18:41:55 1995
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From: x341841 <gnat@iww.org>
Reply-To: webmaster@iww.org
To: Steve Wright <sj@deakin.edu.au>
cc: deke@wps.com, newt@iww.org, Carlos Murray <indwrk@web.apc.org>
Subject: Re: http://iww.org/
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On Sat, 29 Apr 1995, Steve Wright wrote:
> I'm involved in the little *Italian COUNTERInfo* Bulletin that xchange 
> puts out with the Padova node of the European Counter Network - I saw you 
> circulate the last issue on the IWW list 3 or 4 weeks ago, which was 
> nice. Do you have any contacts in Italy? How about with any of the 
> 'alternative unions' there? (I have a few anarchist/council communist 
> friends in the CUB).

You'll have to ask the folks who posted it.  The mailing lists just
distribute whatever people send them.

> We also hope to start a 'work' section of the bbs, with files of 
> particular interest to workplace activists - debate, info, whatever. Any 
> pointers would be much appreciated.

You could search http://www.yahoo.com/ for entries w/the keyword "labor"
... 

> Anyway, hope all is well, and I like the look of your home page. Maybe 
> we'll have one too, one day...

I believe Deke will start you up a Web account for the cost of IWW
membership -- sliding scale: U.S. $5 - 25 depending on income.  email
deke@wps.com or vad@wps.com

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Greetings Friendly Workers,

Below is my updated version of the ``welcome'' message
that people get automatically when they sub to iww-news.

If you would care to look it over and suggest
improvements.  Those concerned may particularly 
note the parts about  IW,  Spunk archives,  GHQ,
WWW,  and iww-news archive.   Please add more complete info.

A favorite slogan, perhaps?

Also, if anyone else wants their  e-mail address listed
here in connection with your activity, branch contact
or whatever.

Just make the changes you want,  and send it back to me.
Try to keep it brief. Include a note about which parts you 
changed, so I don't  miss it.    Thanks for your help

[BTW  I'm going to need someone to look after maintenance on 
this list,  for the last 2 weeks of May.  Volunteers?]
-- Carlos Murray/Ottawa.---x---

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FAQ #1. What is this list for?

WE WELCOME YOUR   Calls for solidarity & support
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No, but IW articles are often posted here.
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Yes!  To look at IWW general information files, contact Spunk Press
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FAQ #6.  Can I look at previous postings on iww-news?

Soon!  An archive is being assembled that [we hope] will contain
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You have nothing to lose and a world to gain!

By organizing industrially, we are building the new
society within the shell of the old.  [IWW Preamble]

EOF

From deke@wps.com Sat Apr 29 23:57:34 1995
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Below is an experimental referendum proposal.  This experiment
will enable us to test the voting and reporting method for
possible problems.  If there is sufficient interest,  I ask the
GEB to approve it as an official referendum so it can go in the
GOB.  The methods would apply for this one referendum only.

This particular model still takes 2 months from start to final
report.  But it does not require printing and mailing ballots.  It
costs the union no money except for announcement in the GOB.

This model only tests the voting and reporting method.  If
successful,  this method might be considered in future for
referendums not requiring secrecy.  For referendums of an urgent
nature,  these voting methods could be used along with a
speeded-up announcing and reporting procedure.

note--For this experiment, the timelines should be as convenient
as possible for GHQ and so should be adapted in the final draft,
to fit in with existing deadlines.

iwwiwwiwwiwwiwwiwwiwwiwwiwwiwwiww

***start***

Experimental Referendum -- Open Branch Voting, GHQ Tally

HOW TO VOTE
Members may vote by any of the following means:
- Face to face verbal - Telephone - Fax - E-mail -
Handwritten/mail

Members may communicate your vote to any of the following:
-A delegate  - Branch Secretary  -A GEB Member  -The GST

HOW TO REPORT RESULTS
Delegates and officers will carefully record all the details of
each member's vote:  Date, time, place, method used,  member name
and card number.    If the voting member has just recently paid
dues  which might not yet be recorded at GHQ, then the delegate or
officer will add a signed statement to that effect.

Delegates and officers will compile the votes received and send
them in a written  [mail, fax or E-mail]  report to the GST.

3 members from the GHQ area, will total the reports received,  and
verify the dues standing of voting members.  They will attempt to
verify anything that looks dubious,  and report any problems.

---
THE QUESTION:
Shall the 100th birthday of the IWW, July 5, 2005, be declared an
international holiday?    yes____  no____
---

This question and these instructions are printed in the GOB with
the date of GOB publication affixed on the same page.   Members
have 30 days from that date to vote.  Delegates and officers have
35 days from that date to send in their reports.  The GHQ has 50
days from that date to summarize the totals,  and will print the
result in the next following GOB.

***end***

### CLMurray/Ottawa
###

From deke@wps.com Sun Apr 30 14:17:44 1995
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To: indwrk@web.apc.org
cc: iww-list@wps.com, Mitch Rice <mitch@bluemarble.net>, deke@fletcher.iww.org,
        newt@fletcher.iww.org, vad@fletcher.iww.org, josie@fletcher.iww.org
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On Sun, 30 Apr 1995 indwrk@web.apc.org wrote:
> FAQ #5.  Is there information about the IWW on files I can read?
> 
> Yes!  To look at IWW general information files, contact Spunk Press
> or inquire to:  miballar@leland.stanford.edu
> 
> WWW pages will be available soon!  Watch for announcements!

Our web servers are once again functional at http://iww.org/ and
http://www.bluemarble.net/~mitch/iww.html

You can check them out with lynx or Netscape.

> FAQ #6.  Can I look at previous postings on iww-news?
> 
> Soon!  An archive is being assembled that [we hope] will contain
> all messages since the start of the list May 1, 1994. Watch for
> announcements.

Unfortunately, the volume of material involved is such that an online
archive will only be useful if we can attach a keyword search engine to
it, which we don't presently know how to do.  Any assistance or
suggestions would be great. 


From deke@wps.com Sun Apr 30 21:02:34 1995
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Hi Deke, Thanks for your phone call.  I cleared out my mailbox so you can 
try sending e-mail again.
 I apologize for not keeping my mailbox clear.  I have been very busy 
with work, school, and family.  I think it would be helpful if some of 
the other people on this list didn't write so often.  It wouldn't be so 
bad if each time they wrote it was something different.  But how many 
attacks on Jon Bekken or Fred Chase can one be expected to read, 
especially when they always come from the same two or three people?  I 
often wonder if these folks are such great organizers as they would have 
us all believe, where do they find the time for so much hate mail?
 In Jon Bekken's defense I would like to point out that he is probably 
one of the hardest working individuals we have in this union.  I, for 
one, am happy to have him in the IWW.  I think his organizing manual is 
great.  It draws on the union's experiences of the past 20 years, and 
would have helped us avoid many of the mistakes the IWW made during those 
years, if it had been adopted.  I am much less impressed at the "glorious 
failures" of some of his critics on this list.  Maybe if they keep 
telling us what great organizers they are, eventually somebody will 
believe them, even if the facts don't back their claims.
 As for Fred Chase, I think it should be recognized that Fred was the 
main organizer of the largest union shop in the IWW since Cleveland, 
some 75 workers.  Not only did he help write union contracts but he 
helped enforce them as well (an enforceable contract is worth a thousand 
only existing on paper).  If he sometimes is slow about getting out the 
GOB, his critics should consider that maybe if he didn't have to spend as 
much time defending himself from baseless accusations, Fred would have 
more time to spend on union business.
 I am tired of all this crap from so-called "organizers" who spend more 
time organizing infighting than workers (and I am speaking directly to 
you critics of Bekken and Chase).

From deke@wps.com Sun Apr 30 23:15:30 1995
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MayDay was reborn in Ottawa as a group of youths strung up a
banner in the park on Sunday, April 30, 1995.  A generator and
sound system was set up around the statue of a military figure,
lamp posts were wound with red and black ribbons,  and tables were
strung along the paths under the budding Maple trees.

It was cool but the sun came through a few times.   Wobbly
musicians started the entertainment with some traditional and
modern songs of resistance.  Then they backed up Spider Merritt on
The Banks Are Made of Marble and other tunes.

IW newspapers sold so well that we donated $10 to Food Not Bombs,
who set up the bread and soup for this celebration on top of
serving downtown at their regular time.

Other groups with literature included Coalition Against the Arms
Trade, Lesbian Avengers, the East Timor support group, animal
rights activists, and the feminist newspaper Hysteriae.

3 punk rock bands blasted the neighborhood for a few hours.  A
multi-ethnic hand drum trio with African songs, and a jazz band
followed.

The crowd stayed around 75-100 with people wandering in from the
street and wandering off again, maybe 1,000 in all.  There were
activities for children, and lots of teenagers playing with hula
hoops.

`Take the risk' read a poster,  `Dance -- before you calcify'

It was encouraging to see this spontaneous MayDay celebration put
together by young adults on their own initiative,  without any
help from the traditional left unions or peace groups.

MAYDAY LIVES
###
CLM
###

From notes@igc.apc.org Mon May  1 04:38:03 1995
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From: indwrk@web.apc.org ( )

MayDay was reborn in Ottawa as a group of youths strung up a
banner in the park on Sunday, April 30, 1995.  A generator and
sound system was set up around the statue of a military figure,
lamp posts were wound with red and black ribbons,  and tables were
strung along the paths under the budding Maple trees.

It was cool but the sun came through a few times.   Wobbly
musicians started the entertainment with some traditional and
modern songs of resistance.  Then they backed up Spider Merritt on
The Banks Are Made of Marble and other tunes.

IW newspapers sold so well that we donated $10 to Food Not Bombs,
who set up the bread and soup for this celebration on top of
serving downtown at their regular time.

Other groups with literature included Coalition Against the Arms
Trade, Lesbian Avengers, the East Timor support group, animal
rights activists, and the feminist newspaper Hysteriae.

3 punk rock bands blasted the neighborhood for a few hours.  A
multi-ethnic hand drum trio with African songs, and a jazz band
followed.

The crowd stayed around 75-100 with people wandering in from the
street and wandering off again, maybe 1,000 in all.  There were
activities for children, and lots of teenagers playing with hula
hoops.

`Take the risk' read a poster,  `Dance -- before you calcify'

It was encouraging to see this spontaneous MayDay celebration put
together by young adults on their own initiative,  without any
help from the traditional left unions or peace groups.

MAYDAY LIVES
###
CLM
###

From deke@wps.com Mon May  1 11:36:25 1995
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Fellow Workers,

The Industrial Worker goes to press end of this week.  If I could get
brief reports on your recent activities, especially around May Day,
I'd love to squeeze them in.

Also, got an email message saying the list had refused to accept my
posting replying to criticisms of my motions on the various
computer lists, etc., I put up 5 days ago.  Did it actually go out?

This is a curious phenomena.  I had the same problem with my reply
to questions on the Industrial Worker editorial policy.  If there is
a technical explanation I'd love to hear it.

Jon Bekken

From 75211.2515@compuserve.com Mon May  1 13:20:45 1995
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Subject: some sad news
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Hi guy. Just found out and thought I'd let you know right away - Meryl died Sat.
The last time we'd talked to her about 2 mos. ago, she let on she was fine. But
she'd been heavy on my mind lately, and I'd just said to Lynn last week that we
really needed to get to R.H. to see her. Her mother's here from Australia, so at
least she wasn't alone. I feel sorry for her mother having to deal with all this
as a foreigner. There's really nothing you can do for her; prayers for those
already dead are pretty useless I think. The funeral's Wed. We leave for KC Wed.
AM. I'm not sure I could deal with a funeral right now. I'll try not to feel too
guilty about that one too. 

Not too much happening. Think I'll go plant some flowers. That's the best thing
I can think of at the moment. Take care. Love.....Bonnie


From deke@wps.com Mon May  1 15:59:37 1995
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From: "Michael D. Damore" <mdamore@moose.uvm.edu>
To: stein jeffrey s <jstein1@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>
cc: iww-list@fido.wps.com
Subject: Re: your mail
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Funny comments Jeff, since you, Bekken and the Resurgence crowd invented 
the word "infighting."  BTW, I have never claimed to be the super 
organizer of the world, and I respect every effort that all FWs make.

Happy May Day,
Mike

On Sun, 30 Apr 1995, stein jeffrey s wrote:

> 
> Hi Deke, Thanks for your phone call.  I cleared out my mailbox so you can 
> try sending e-mail again.
>  I apologize for not keeping my mailbox clear.  I have been very busy 
> with work, school, and family.  I think it would be helpful if some of 
> the other people on this list didn't write so often.  It wouldn't be so 
> bad if each time they wrote it was something different.  But how many 
> attacks on Jon Bekken or Fred Chase can one be expected to read, 
> especially when they always come from the same two or three people?  I 
> often wonder if these folks are such great organizers as they would have 
> us all believe, where do they find the time for so much hate mail?
>  In Jon Bekken's defense I would like to point out that he is probably 
> one of the hardest working individuals we have in this union.  I, for 
> one, am happy to have him in the IWW.  I think his organizing manual is 
> great.  It draws on the union's experiences of the past 20 years, and 
> would have helped us avoid many of the mistakes the IWW made during those 
> years, if it had been adopted.  I am much less impressed at the "glorious 
> failures" of some of his critics on this list.  Maybe if they keep 
> telling us what great organizers they are, eventually somebody will 
> believe them, even if the facts don't back their claims.
>  As for Fred Chase, I think it should be recognized that Fred was the 
> main organizer of the largest union shop in the IWW since Cleveland, 
> some 75 workers.  Not only did he help write union contracts but he 
> helped enforce them as well (an enforceable contract is worth a thousand 
> only existing on paper).  If he sometimes is slow about getting out the 
> GOB, his critics should consider that maybe if he didn't have to spend as 
> much time defending himself from baseless accusations, Fred would have 
> more time to spend on union business.
>  I am tired of all this crap from so-called "organizers" who spend more 
> time organizing infighting than workers (and I am speaking directly to 
> you critics of Bekken and Chase).
> 

From deke@wps.com Mon May  1 16:02:27 1995
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From: "Michael D. Damore" <mdamore@moose.uvm.edu>
To: iww-list <iww-list@fido.wps.com>
Subject: May Day
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I hope evryone is having a fulfilling May Day celebration whether it is a 
solo hoorah or a cool group love-in.  Have a great rest of the day.

For only a few more May Days under capitalism,

Mike D'

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	Happy May day from the beleagured lowlifes of the fire ant collective...
	

From notes@igc.apc.org Mon May  1 19:11:24 1995
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From: al691@freenet.carleton.ca (John Hollingsworth)

In celebration of the real workers' holiday...

Solidarity,
John
IWW-Ottawa


--
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  John Hollingsworth		al691@freenet.carleton.ca
  Ottawa, Canada		(613) 230-5377
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CHIAPAS RALLY AND MARCH TURNS BRUTAL

Note:  This is the perspective of only one participant, reconstructed
from memory.  I originally wrote it half an hour after the incident
ended, and have since revised it, with a little bit more input from
other participants and with the hindsight gained from the passing of
time.  I have heard some of my march companions give an account of
the story, which I found to be somewhat less than accurate.  Here
is my attempt to give what I feel to be a more accurate account.
Nevertheless, it remains one person's point of view.


Salt Lake City (AP -- Anarchist Press) We met with high spirits in front
of the Mexican Consulate in downtown Salt Lake City.  The ostensible
purpose of our rally was to show solidarity with the EZLN (Ejercito
Zapatista por la Liberacion Nacional), otherwise known as the Zapatistas.
     Coming off a wonderful pre-May Day celebration in Liberty Park over
the weekend, there was nothing but warm smiles all around (the sun was
even smiling brightly at us on this beautiful May 1st, May Day, or
International Workers Day as we call it).
     Within minutes of our noon rally time, the group was assembled.
Excitement brewed in the air as we picked up our signs and began the
drum-beatin', guitar-playin' demonstration to the gawks of standers-by,
including those working (on May Day???) in the Consulate.  After a ten-
minute rally in front of the Consulate to protest the Mexican government,
we began our 2-mile march down the streets of Salt Lake, headed, in a
roundabout way, for the Federal Building, to protest our *own* government
for its complicity in the situation in Chiapas.
     Emboldened by our 40-strong cohesive delegation and the applause
and solidarity of those we passed, we took our march to the streets.
It was exhilarating, to say the least.  We blocked two (sometimes three)
lanes of downtown traffic -- correct that, we *were* the traffic!
     Surprisingly, there were no angry cars, no cops, nothing.  We
couldn't have asked for a better march!  But things first took a turn
toward the negative when we arrived at the Federal Building....
     Incidentally, from what I gathered, we were marching without permits
and without informing the cops beforehand of our plans.  And apparently,
the security at the Federal Building were also none too pleased at our lack
of a permit to demonstrate in their plaza.  One security person ran around
asking who was in charge, so that he could escort them to the second floor
to get a permit for demonstrating at the Federal Building.  Well, he
obviously didn't have too much luck in that respect, but two people
eventually volunteered to get the permit.
     Soon, three city cops arrived, informing us of what we could not
do (no standing in any part of the street, no standing on concrete
structures (other than the sidewalk?), no blocking sidewalk traffic,
etc.).  We abided.
     After a great organic musical jam festival in front of the Building
(you knew that the stony-faced cops wanted to join in!), we began our march
back to the Consulate, again taking to the streets (three lanes of traffic).
     We're exactly two blocks from the Consulate and the end of our little,
peaceful vigil/march.  So far, so good, eh?  Well ...
     This time, we did not find as many supportive car-drivers.  Many honked
at us and made every attempt to pass us by.  As we approached the intersection
(200 South 300 East) just two blocks from our march's end, one car, directly
behind three of our lagging marchers, kept honking and shouting, some not-
very-nice epithets.  Unfortunately, that only provoked our three members to
walk more slowly.  Not only that, one of them halfway sat on the hood of the
car.  The two people in the car immediately got out and came around and
knocked the signs out of two people's hands.
     It was not pleasant.  A small scuffle began.  Luckily (???), a
plainclothesperson who had apparently been tailing us got out of his car
and broke into the middle of the tiny scuffle.  (Later, one of the cops
had said that we had marched in front of the city police or sheriff's (?)
building and they had come out initially only to prevent the thugs in the
car from beating on us.  I don't know the details of this.)  The near-violent
confrontation was dissipated ... only to be followed by another one, this
time with our supposed "saviors."
     Not one minute after that incident, we resumed marching on our last
leg (two blocks) of the trip, once again taking to the streets, but only one
lane of traffic this time.  A city police car appeared out of nowhere and
megaphoned us to get off the street.  Most of us did ... but two.  The orders
were repeated.  The two began to slowly, slowly move off.  Not quickly enough,
apparently.
     Now is when my own observations were blurred.  Seeing our last two
folks slowly move off the street (at first, I wasn't sure they were going
to), I figured things were cool and turned back around to finish the march
(personally, I was in a hurry to get out of there).
     Suddenly, there was shouting -- I turned around.  One of our people
started running toward me, with *three* cops on his tail (where did they
come from??).  Those of us in the lead all clumped closer together, confused
as to what was happening.  Our person got caught.  The three cops jumped on
him something bad.  He began to scream.  We all started shouting.  Half of
our people tried to find a camera (fortunately, one person had brought one
and she was covertly snapping away).  The other half of us began scolding
the cops for their obvious brutality.
     Then, within mere minutes, we were surrounded by *ten* Salt Lake City
police cars (yes, I counted), and there was a paddy wagon, too, and a
helicopter circling overhead (news media?, I wasn't sure).
     Another of our people tried to go after our arrested friend.  One cop
went completely berserk (this is *not* a biased depiction).   There were
now guns all over (and a six-year-old girl standing right next to me!).
Throwing a karate offensive position, the berserked policeman (he was
visibly in a frenzy) literally threatened to kill anyone who got near.
One of our people got near.  He was pepper-sprayed.  Unable to see, he began
thrashing about.  That only provoked the cops more, thinking he was attacking
them (my gosh, how could he attack anyone, he couldn't even see!).  Meanwhile,
more cops arrived.  Our group was clumped too close together.  Everyone was
going crazy, including the police.  (I might add that the dozen or so police
cars were now *completely* blocking the entire intersection where our
confrontation was taking place -- who's blocking traffic???)
     It was chaos.  Someone spat on the grass in disgust of the actions of
the cops.  He was threatened with arrest.  "For spitting???" he yelled in
disbelief.  Affirmative.  He spat again on the grass.  And they went after
him.  That, of course, made all of us yell even more.  Pain compliance was
applied to our arrested friends.  This only further incensed our group,
and some people charged the police to help protect our two friends.
     Of those who charged the police, two more were arrested.  More pain
compliance (very *obvious* PAIN compliance).  When our arrested friends
weren't screaming for their lives, they boldly continued to shout their
support for the Zapatistas.  By now, there were far more cops than us.
Another person was arrested.
     Slowly, things began to get under control.  Most of our group was
being herded back on the sidewalk and told to leave, or all of us would
be arrested.
     I was too dazed to move.  I looked in horror as two of my friends
were thrown to the ground, kicked repeatedly in the back, and handcuffed.
(One of my arrested friends got his backpack cut off with a large knife --
didn't they think of removing his backpack first, *before* handcuffing him??
And isn't that destruction of private property???)  One person snapped a
few more photos.  Unbeknownst to me, most of my group had already began to
walk back to our ending destination.
     But I stood firm, with tears in my eyes.  The berserked cop approached
me.  He yelled at me to move.  Unlike most of the others in my group, I
did not respond with anger or provocation.  In fact, I didn't hear him,
because I was spellbound by what the cops were doing to my friends.  I stood
there, sobbing ... and thinking about the words of the Zen Buddhist monk,
Thich Nhat Hanh (to paraphrase, that those who commit violence upon others
must themselves suffer inside because, otherwise, if they felt inner peace,
joy, and happiness, they would not be trying to make others suffer).  I could
not help asking myself over and over, "What happened?  What happened?"
     The berserked cop yelled in my face once again, and brought me back to
my senses.  I stared deeply into his cold grey eyes.  He thought I was going
to resist like the ones that had been arrested.  Looking at his face, this
face that was all set to kill me if I didn't move in three seconds, I asked
with compassion and firmness in my voice:  "Are my friends going to be all
right?"
     "YES!  They are all right!  MOVE!"
     I turned slowly and reluctantly away as my friends were driven off in
white and blue cars.  When I joined the others in my group once again in
front of the Mexican Consulate, I slowly put down the sign I had carried
throughout the rally and march.  Ironically, it read:
     "WE ALL LIVE IN CHIAPAS."

Johnn Tan
Ogden, Utah


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To: Deke Motif Nihilson <deke@wps.com>
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	Hi deke, I was wondering if you knew what the status of aaa list 
is? Any word?
Ciao,
JR


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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 18:54:35 -0700
From: Jon Bekken <jbekken@igc.apc.org>
To: deke@iww.org
Subject: the bounced message

   ----- Original message follows -----
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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 17:46:24 -0700 From: Jon Bekken
<jbekken@igc.apc.org> Message-Id:
<199504260046.RAA06290@igc2.igc.apc.org> To: iww-list@fido.com
Subject: Reality Check

Fellow Workers,

I am not anti-computer, nor have I proposed to divest the union of
"it's
 computer resources.  The simple fact is that neither of the "iww"
computer lists are under the slightest degree of union control,
nor is the "irr.org" domain.  Having the domain registered the way
it is prevents the IWW from estabilishing an on-line presence of
our own, should we wish to do so.

Anyone can make up an X number.  This offers no protection
whatsoever.  So what we have is an "internal" discussion list
which is open to anyone who wants to participate, regardless of
whether or not they are a member, an IWW computer host that exists
at the sufferance and whim of one particular IWW member, without
the slightest degree of union control (but who will get blamed if
some whacko uses the list, say, to post bomb diagrams?), etc.

I am committed to using computer communications and do so
extensively.  But I oppose misrepresentation of the control and
nature of these lists and computer sites, and particularly oppose
the attempt to foreclose the IWW from ever being able to establish
our own systems.

Jon Bekken


From deke@wps.com Tue May  2 20:17:46 1995
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From: "X341697 (Deke Nihilson)" <deke@fletcher.iww.org>
To: Jon Bekken <jbekken@igc.apc.org>
cc: iww-list@wps.com, "X341697 (Deke Nihilson)" <deke@fletcher.iww.org>
Subject: Re: Jon Bekken's bounced message
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Deke here.

FW Bekken and other online FWs:

Here is the analysis of what happened to the disappearing message FW 
Bekken sent to iww-list, as he mentioned in e-mail to the iww-list on May 
Day. FW Bekken sent me the full text of the bounce message itself, quoted 
from below and responded to by me.

To non-techies on the iww-list:
This will be a somewhat technical message, but a most basic one; it 
should be fairly easy for even non-technical people to understand. If you 
just cannot bear *any* technical discussion, you may want to skip this 
post. If, however, the Internet is relatively new to you and you want to 
understand a basic thing about how the whole system of computers works, 
then I fully encourage you to read on! I'll be more than glad to help 
answer questions about this, and other stuff, that on-line wobs may have, 
as time and personal knowledge allow of course, and/or recommend some 
good books...

ANYway! Here goes:

On Tue, 2 May 1995, Jon Bekken wrote:

>     ******************************************************************
>     ** This is to advise you that we have been attempting to
>     **
>     ** deliver the message below for 20 hours.  While the e-mail

This means the system you log into (igc.apc.org) is still trying to
deliver it.  You should also be informed if/when it fails (usually 5 days
is the default), but not necessarily if/when it finally succeeds. If there
is a way to be informed of success in such circumstances, I don't know it,
and sure wouldn't mind knowing; does anyone else on the list know? This is
also a part of why peole tend to be a little redundant in mailing things;
they'd rather you get two copies than none. Again, not always the best
solution, especially when the problem is such as the one below.
 
>     ** 		...While the e-mail	
>     ** address you specified appears to be valid, the recipient's
>     **
>     ** machine has not been reachable.  Our system will continue

But indeed it wasn't; see below.

>     ** attempts to deliver the mail for another 5 days.

Above-mentioned default.

>    ----- The following addresses had delivery problems -----
> <iww-list@fido.com>  (transient failure)
> 
>    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> <iww-list@fido.com>... Deferred: Name server: fido.com: host name
                                     right there^^^^^^^^
> lookup failure Warning: message still undelivered after 20 hours
> Will keep trying until message is 5 days old

The address is:  iww-list@WPS.COM

Fido is the *host* name, and wps is the *domain* name, in the following 
address:

iww-list@fido.wps.com
	 ^^^^^^^^^^^^

The above text highlighted-so: ^^^^^ is called the Fully Qualified Domain 
Name (FQDN). The equivalent on our system is:

yet-another-list@fletcher.iww.org

and the equivalent on your local system, Jon, is:
jbekken@igc2.igc.apc.org

(Sometimes a domain will have more than two system names (such as the 
igc.apc in Jon's; igc is a big system!), but never less than two. In 
Jon's system's case the host name squezzes in between that and the @narchy 
sign, when it has to. 

For those of you interested or wondering, there was a technical issue with
this when iww.org first came on-line, in that mail to here had to have the
FQDN in the address (hey, we're wobs; one more acronym won't hurt!  *;)
That has since been resolved, and (as with many other domains) inclusion
of the *host* name in e-mail addresses is not necessary for successful
mail delivery (i.e. in single-host domains, which hopefully we won't have
forever!)

But the host name alone (or with .com or whatever) won't do it. See 
there? Easy as pie!

> 
>    ----- Original message follows -----
> ...
> ... etc. etc

(And then it tacks the original message on, so you know what the hell 
it's talking about  *:)

I'll respond to the other post separately, but this does beg the 
question, Jon: what makes you so sure you're a competent judge of how wobbly 
the node iww.org is or isn't? 

And, if you have concerns or questions about things involving other FWs 
than yourself, what's going on, etc., why do you insinuate, accuse or attack 
as an initial communication strategy? Reality could be much simpler (and 
more pleasant for all!) than such strategies make it.

In Solidarity,
Deke  X341697

From deke@wps.com Tue May  2 21:07:24 1995
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On Tue, 2 May 1995, Jon Bekken <jbekken@igc.apc.org> wrote:

> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 17:46:24 -0700 
> From: Jon Bekken <jbekken@igc.apc.org> 
> To: iww-list@fido.com
> Subject: Reality Check
> 
> Fellow Workers,
> 
> I am not anti-computer, nor have I proposed to divest the union of
> "it's
>  computer resources.  

Yes you have Jon, whether you realize it or not.

> Having the domain registered the way
> it is prevents the IWW from estabilishing an on-line presence of
> our own, should we wish to do so.

No it doesn't, even if you don't consider iww.org "ours". But then, you've
never even asked for an account, so whaddaya mean?  Who's "we"?  

> Anyone can make up an X number.  This offers no protection
> whatsoever.  

I've been a delegate for going on 4 years, Jon. I'm on the GEB this year. 
I've been a Branch Secretary before, and helped organize an Assembly 
(including door duty). Why do you doubt my ability to ascertain 
membership? 

Perhaps part of your concern is really something else: the ascertainment 
of Good Standing. These are two different things; perhaps what we lack is 
a POLICY , or some sort of standardized ROUTINE. We lack a few of those 
here, and that's why I've been calling for HELP. If you want to be part 
of the process of developing any of that, you'll have to COMMUNICATE with 
others and, yes Jon, you'll have to communicate with me. Even when things 
have been difficult, I've shown you respect, and the fact of the matter 
is that you'll have to do the same likewise.

> So what we have is an "internal" discussion list
> which is open to anyone who wants to participate, regardless of
> whether or not they are a member, 

This is simply not true, Jon.

> an IWW computer host that exists
> at the sufferance and whim of one particular IWW member, 

This is not true, Jon. Whaddaya mean "sufferance?" Upon what ground do 
you level such accusation?

> without
> the slightest degree of union control (but who will get blamed if
> some whacko uses the list, say, to post bomb diagrams?), etc.

Well. Now that's a whole nother subject! What if a local did that, Jon? 
What if the GEB (the official arbiter of the Official IWW Word) did that 
by majority vote, even without the consent of the majority? (Even with 
it)? Much bigger question...

In any case, the answer is to engage in a process whereby we change the 
ability of that to happen. I think we need a unionwide Nonviolence 
Statement, and am glad that the Puget Sound FWs have pursued some of the 
work we've done on the local level in Santa Cruz (which you were there as 
a witness and participant to, Jon). I'm also glad that the iww-list has 
seen discussion on the topic too, (and all of that is disclaimative 
evidence, BTW), because despite the subject being broached in the GOB 
(including the SCGMB Resolution text) that forum has proven to be too 
slow and cumbersome for indepth and timely discussion of a subject of 
that scope. There have been other proposals for changes in process that 
might help rectify that, and/or it may rectify itself in time, but the 
iww-list has helped make it a multifaceted, empowering, and indeed living 
dialogue.

That's a much better solution than silencing everyone. Denying free 
speech has never fixed any problems, and wobblies have always known 
that!!! That's why we fight for it.

What would you see done, Jon?

> I am committed to using computer communications and do so
> extensively.  But I oppose misrepresentation of the control and
> nature of these lists and computer sites, and particularly oppose
> the attempt to foreclose the IWW from ever being able to establish
> our own systems.
> 
> Jon Bekken

I think you're mixing up the host and the domain again, Jon; I will 
presume out of ignorance, which is curable! But if not, upon what basis 
do you level such heated accusations as those above, Jon?

I await your reply, with the hope that you will begin a real dialogue with 
me thereby. The track record ain't so hot lately, but I too am learning 
patience.

This actually marks Time Three I've asked you this fundamental question 
this year, Jon. Again I reach my hand out, not sure whether you'll shake 
it or bite it. We don't have to agree, but Can We Talk?

In (the name of) Solidarity?
Deke Nihilson  X341697

From deke@wps.com Tue May  2 21:38:56 1995
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FW,
The 1983 GEB approved the songbook as official literature. The
claim that final printed songbooks were to be circulated to the
GEB for review prior to release is both ridiculous (step back a
minute and think about the logistics involved with this) and
untrue.  I realize one FW has been insistently making such a
claim, but that doesn't give it any validity.
The songbook is official literature. Copies are available.
It is being distributed.
It's not done quite the way I would have done things (I would
have included different songs, made different editing and
production decisions, etc.), but then I was not on the
Songbook Committee nor on the GEB that established it or
approved the songbook two years ago.
Jon Bekken


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Deke Motif Nihilson, X341697
GA Del. #94-33 
IU 560, S.F. GMB, IWW

GEB Report #4, April 1995

Ways To Reach Me:
	snail-mail: c/o The Little Garden, 3004 16th St. #201, San Francisco CA 		94103
	e-mail: deke@iww.org
	tel.: work: (415) 487-1902 M-F 10 a.m.- 6 p.m., PST; msg. OK
	      home: (415) 282-4834

Official Correspondence Received (i.e. GEB reports and matters appertaining):
	...in addition to numerous e-mails:
	DN 4/3 (printed, signed, in the USPS); JB 4/14; TM 4/15; GHQ 
4/24; ZT 4/26; MD 4/28 (email version 4/24); JB 5/2; GHQ 5/2

*****
GEB MEMBER CODES: JB= Jon Bekken, MD= Mike D'Amore, JD= Jeff Ditz, AK= 
Art Kazar, TM= Tai Miller, DN= Deke Nihilson, ZT= Zimya' A. Toms-Trend

*****

Votes on Others' Motions:

JB9 (GEB Rule #14): No
JB10 (Make Philly GMB Pay): No
JB11 (IWW computer lists): No
JB12 (iww.org): No

TM1 (Overturn JD4): Yes
TM2 (Policies in GOB): Yes

MD14 (Mumia Abu Jamal): Yes
MD15 (LVGMB Org. Manual): Yes
MD16 (IWW computer lists): Yes
MD17 (IWW computer lists): Yes
MD18 (Job Branch Charter to Stevenson workers): Yes

*****

Discussion of the Motions at Hand:

JB9 is unrealistic in 1995.

Philadelphia has accuonted for their funds far beyond what is ever 
demanded or expected of other branches.

MD16 and MD17 are reasonable alternatives to the autocratic and 
industrially-unrealistic JB11 and JB12. I do not see any of Mike and Jon's 
motions as mutually-compatible, and will ardently protest the collapsing 
of either one's into the other's (as in GEB Rule #13).

Further, it is my understanding that FW ZT has changed her vote on JB12 
to an abstention, and I have the full confidence that her next report 
will reflect same. 

There are better ways to engage in a process of dialogue than that of 
assault. I'm certainly learning this as well.

I remember several Job Shops seeking and struggling for GEB approval in 
order to receive their Job Shop card (which is signed by the GST and the 
GEB Chair), specifically including the Sea Dive, IU 510. MD18 fulfills 
such requirement.



Sincerely,



Deke Nihilson
X341697


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The following is culled from the local, daily capitalist press. Presume 
biases, etc. accordingly...

from the S.F. Examiner, 5/16/95, pg. A10 col. 6


FBI Spied [sic] on AIDS Activists

New York-- The FBI has been spying on AIDS activists and gay rights 
organizations out of fear that some may be throwing infected blood and 
used condoms during protests, according to a published report.

Twenty-two pages of FBI files on New York gay groups were obtained by the 
Center for Constitutional Rights and reviewed by the New York Daily News.

The FBI has a file on ACT UP, the Gay Men's Health Crisis, the Coalition 
on Lesbian and Gay Rights, and Senior Action in a Gay Environment, the 
News reported Monday.

The records show agency activity in 1990 and 1991. The FBI refused to 
release 177 pages of the 199-page file on ACT UP, claiming "ongoing law 
enforcement activity," the newspaper said.

One memo shows agents were worried about protesters throwing "infected 
blood and used condoms." ACT UP leaders say that had never occured in any 
protest, according to the News.

One ACT UP incident involved a demonstration on Oct. 1, 1991, when group 
members poured red dye in a fountain near the Capitol in Washington. An 
FBI memo, as released, contains blacked-out material from an informant 
and describes ACT UP members throwing "theatrical blood over the fences 
in protest," according to the News.

ACT UP leader James Learned said that during the protest, a man he 
believed was a law enforcement plant had posed as an ACT UP member and 
torched an American flag, according to the News.

FBI spokesmen wouldn't comment, the newspaper said.

In San Francisco, Joe Fera of the San Francisco AIDS Foundation, said: 
"We're trying desperately to keep ahead of an epidemic that keeps killing 
people at an alarming rate. This is a national embarrassment, to have 
government money spent on spying when government money should be spent on 
caring for people."

*****end of article*****


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Anyone in the Bay Area have a first-hand account of what happened?

--brad

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Tuesday 27 June 1995

Contact:

Bay Area Network for Mumia Abu-Jamal
Eli Rosenblatt 510-845-8813
Rachel Lederman 415-648-4505

Equal Justice USA
Karen Palmer 301-699-0042

SPIRITED MARCH SHUT DOWN BY SF POLICE
More than 270 arrested in illegal sweep in SF's Duboce Triangle area.

Last night, more than 700 people gathered at San Francisco's UN Plaza to
march for human rights.  The protest was organized in support of Mumia
Abu-Jamal, a political prisoner on Pennsylvania's death row.  The
non-violent and lively, spirited crowd chanted and held signs expressing
opposition to the death penalty, and to rampant police abuse as highlighted
by recent killings by the SFPD.  Officers in one of these cases
pepper-sprayed, clubbed and kicked Aaron Williams in the head after he was
cuffed and shacked and lying on the ground.  Mr. Williams died in police
custody shortly thereafter, and hundreds have expressed solidarity with his
family.

The march began with no police presence at UN Plaza around 8:30pm. The
route took the march past the SF Police Dept.'s Mission Station, home base
for cops who have killed two of the three people to die at the hands of the
police in the last month. The demonstration left two dumpsters burning in
its wake, and the police response became increasingly hostile.

After a game of cat and mouse, police trapped the protesters on a small
side street a block from Church and Market.  This was site where in May of
1992, a mass demonstration (protesting police actions in the wake of the
Rodney King rebellion) led to a very expensive settlement of a false arrest
class action suit.

On Monday night, More than 280 participants (including prominent Bay Area
progressive attorneys and journalists such as Michael Parenti) were
arrested for felony Arson, as well as misdemeanor participation in a riot
and jaywalking. UNLESS THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY DROPS THE CHARGES, THOSE
ARRESTED COULD BE HELD UNTIL FRIDAY JUNE 30TH.

PLEASE CALL D.A. ARLO SMITH AND DEMAND THAT HE DROP THE CHARGES.
D.A.'s Office (415) 553-1751
FAX: (415) 553-9054


                        -- Who is Mumia Abu-Jamal? --
An award winning African-American journalist, Mumia is a political prisoner
on death row in Pennsylvania. His advocacy of human rights had been a thorn
in the side of the Philadelphia Police Dept. when he was involved in an
altercation in 1982 that left him wounded and an officer dead. The
opportunity to frame him for this death and at the same time put an end to
his unrelenting exposure of police brutality and misconduct was more than
the city of Philadelphia could resist. Mumia was railroaded in a trial that
was riddled with injustices and he was promptly sentenced to death.

-------------

For more information on Mumia Abu-Jamal, the death penalty, and what you can do:

International Concerned Friends & Family of Mumia Abu-Jamal
P.O. Box 19709
Philadelphia, PA  19143
215-476-8812 (phone & fax)

Equal Justice USA, A Project of the Quixote Center
P.O. Box 5206
Hyattsville, MD  20782
301-699-0042 phone
301-864-2182 fax

Free Mumia Abu-Jamal Coalition
P.O. 650
New York, NY  10009
215-330-8029

Committee to Save Mumia Abu-Jamal
P.O. Box 163
Amsterdam Ave. #115
New York, NY  10023-5001

Partisan Defense Committee
P.O. Box 99
Canal St. Station
New York, NY  10013
212-406-4252

Western PA Committee to Free Mumia Abu-Jamal
P.O. Box 10174
Pittsburgh, PA 15232-0174

Freedom Now Network!
2420 24th St.
San Francisco, CA  94110
415-648-4505

Refuse & Resist!
305 Madison Ave., Suite 1166
New York, NY  10165
212-713-5657

>Remember to check Mumia's web page as often as possible, info is
>updated daily and things are happening rapidly.  Although I'm trying
>hard to keep up, it's a good idea to double check the page for new info
>on our brother.  Access the page at
>http://huizen.dds.nl:80/~tank/mumia002.htm.  Messages of solidarity,
>support and strength for our dear brother may be sent to mumia@aol.com
>and will be forwarded to him.
e-mail address for henk and spg: tank@xs4all.nl

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From: Jenn1ww@aol.com
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 03:44:56 -0400
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Just got to my news stuff didn't know if you had seen this.  

      SAN FRANCISCO, June 27 (Reuter) - About 300 people were arrested in a
fiery demonstration by advocates for the homeless and a group protesting the
death sentence of a black activist, police said Tuesday. 

    Protesters set fire to dumpsters and damaged several police vehicles in
Monday night's demonstration, police spokesman Sergeant Jim Leach said. Those
arrested would face charges such as inciting a riot and arson, he said,
adding that no one was injured. 

    The protesters were from Food Not Bombs, a group which has often been in
trouble with San Francisco authorities for feeding the homeless without a
permit, and from a coalition of groups protesting the death sentence against
a black political activist in Pennsylvania, news reports said. 

    A Food Not Bombs spokesman could not immediately be reached for comment. 

    Police, who had been busy escorting President Clinton and other
dignitaries in town for celebrations marking the 50th anniversary of the
birth of the United Nations, said they were taken by surprise by the
protests. 

    About 200 demonstrators, many of them carrying torches, marched from
downtown San Francisco to the nearby Mission District, where they were joined
by hundreds more demonstrators, news reports said. 

    Many of the demonstrators were protesting the death sentence handed down
in Pennsylvania to political activist Mumia Abu-Jamal. 

    Abu-Jamal, 41, was convicted of the 1981 killing of a police officer and
is scheduled to be executed Aug. 17, but his lawyers allege prosecutors
suppressed evidence that could have cleared him and are calling for a new
trial. 



Please let us know if there is anything we can do from here to help the
arrested folks out. -

In Solidarity
Jenn


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The following was taken from the daily capitalist press, and therefore 
reflects a bias of interests in that direction.

from the San Francisco Examiner, 28 June 1995, pg. A4 col. 6

ARSON CHARGES FOLLOW PROTEST

Most of the 279 Arrested Monday Night in S.F. Still in Jail
by Dexter Waugh of the Examiner Staff


Most of the 279 people arrested after a mass demonstration that ended in 
the Mission District remained in jail a day later on felony arson 
charges. [Transcriber's Note: all have been released, and all felony 
charges dropped.]

"The district attorney is evaluating the charges and will make a 
determination what to do next," Deputy Police Chief Tom Petrini said 
Tuesday evening, as about three dozen people from the Partisan Defense 
Committee paraded around the Hall of Justice [sic] steps demanding the 
release of the protesters arrested Monday night.

Police said the demonstrators were from the group Food Not Bombs and 
other groups protesting the incarceration and scheduled August execution 
of Mumia Abu-Jamal, a journalist who has been on Pennsylvania's death row 
since 1981 for the killing of a police officer. Support groups for 
Abu-Jamal contend he is innocent and was framed because of his political 
activism in Philadelphia's African American community.

Tuesday night's demonstration, which was peaceful, focused on both 
Jamal's case and the 279 arrested protesters, most of whom have been 
charged with arson, a felony. All were charged with inciting to riot, a 
misdemeanor, Petrini said.

Police say demonstrators set several dumpsters ablaze on Valencia Street 
during the protest Monday, which started at about 8:30 p.m. at Eighth and 
Market Streets. Seven police cars had their tires slashed and windows 
broken, officers added.

The demonstration finally ended around 10:30 p.m. when police corralled 
the protesters on Landers Street, between Church and Dolores streets.

Michael Parenti, a historian who has written numerous political books, 
was at the Hall of Justice [sic] with the protesters Tuesday night, 
having been released from jail on $5,500 bail. He said he had been 
charged with arson, inciting to riot and obstructing traffic. He said, "I 
didn't see anything burning on the whole march."

Parenti and Justin Hall, who was among those arrested and also bailed 
out, both said they hadn't heard police order the crowd to disperse. 

"People are chanting, `Free Abu-Jamal,' and pretty soon we're chanting, 
`Let us disperse,' and the cops are standing there in battle position," 
said Hall, who was charged with abetting arson, inciting to riot and 
jaywalking.

Petrini said police "didn't feel it was necessary" to give an order to 
disperse.

"They were arrested for crimes they had committed-- inciting to riot, 
arson," he said.

"They were acting as a group. That's why we arrested them. No mistake was 
made. These crimes were ongoing, and we had to put a stop to it."

*****end of article*****


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 Protest at U.S. Governors' Conference

/* Written 12:22 PM  Jun 30, 1995 by igc:peacejustice in web:iww.news */
From: Peace and Justice Coalition <peacejustice>

FREE MUMIA, PROTEST DEATH GOVERNOR RIDGE!!!
NO TO THE CONTRACT ON AMERCIA!!!

The 1995 Governors' Conference is being held in Burlington, VT from
July 29th to August 1st.  Governors from across the U.S. will attend
along with special guest appearances by President Clinton and
Presidential hopeful Bob Dole.  A "People's Conference For Economic
Democracy" is taking place on the 29th in reaction to the Governors
invasion and is being sponsored by a coalition comprised basically of
the left who are opposed to the Contract on America.

The Native Forest Network (NFN) and the Burlington IWW Group are
currently working to have someone from the revolutionary Black
movement in Philadelphia, MOVE (or other qualified spokespeople),
speak on behalf of Mumia Abu Jamal.  Pennsylvania's governor
Ridge, who signed Mumia's death warrant, will be attending the
Governors' Conference in Burlington.

There are preliminary talks by some folks of setting up a Temporary
Autonomous Zone during the Governors' conference for people to
congregate and camp and definitely people will be joining in
Saturday morning's march to protest Ridge.  Just another reason why
you and your affinity group may want to come and visit Burlington,
VT, on beautiful Lake Champlain.

AN INJURY TO ONE IS AN INJURY TO ALL!

For further info contact the NFN and/or the IWW at POB 57,
Burlington, VT  05402, tel:  (802)863-0571


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A Call To...

FAST FOR HEADWATERS FOREST
To Begin Wednesday, July 12, 1995

Contact: Wendy (707) 943-3788

(Note: Do not reply to sender of this post, but please repost as 
appropriate!)

Ultimately, your demands, your location, your approach is up to you.

In Ft. Bragg CA, a fast is being planned for the California Dep't. of 
Forestry (CDF) offices. Most of the fasters are older people who will 
fast for a day and pass on the honor of fasting to the next, like a 
relay. They are hoping to continue for at least a week and maybe it will 
grow. They are looking for at least one local person there to fast 
consistently rather than for just a day, and of course indefinitely. 
Rather than adopting our five demands, their message will be PROTECT THE 
OLD GROWTHS, TOTAL PROTECTION. Also, HIRE LOGGERS AND OTHERS TO RESTORE 
THE LAND.

Following are the five basic demands. You are free to get involved and 
develop your fast/vigil/demands however you want. We will be coordinators 
of any actions that want our assistance. We can help with press releases 
and will also put out a basic press release that explains the entire 
picture with each fast adequately mentioned. We hope to be in constant 
communication with all group fasts.

PEACE, SHALOM, THANKS!

***

DEMANDS:

(A) PENSION FOR LOGGERS/PACIFIC LUMBER EMPLOYEES-- Charles Hurwitz, owner 
of Maxxam, pay back the pension funds to loggers. He must drop his appeal 
to the lawsuit which he lost and restore the pension fund to its previous 
status.

(B) SAVINGS AND LOAN-- Charlie Hurwitz must pay back taxpayers' money 
($1.6 billion) he stole from them through his savings and loan scam. The 
FDIC must recommend to the Justice Department that they press charges on 
Hurwitz and in turn recover money to the public through civil litigation.

(C) ESA (Endangered Species Act)-- U.S. Fish and Wildlife must stop 
"signing off" on plans that destroy endangered species, which makes public 
input difficult. They must cite Hurwitz for conspiracy to violate the 
ESA, and end logging in endangered species habitat altogether. 

(D) DEBT FOR NATURE-- Hurwitz must stop logging immediately and return 
Headwaters to its inhabitants and the American people who ultimately paid 
for it with their tax dollars when they bailed out Hurwitz' S&L, which 
had its money looted and laundered to finance his takeover of Pacific 
Lumber (PL). Debt for Nature...

(E) RESTORATION JOBS-- The Federal and/or California state government 
must pass a bill which creates restoration jobs in the woods and offers 
the option for forest workers to stay in the forest. Judi Bari's 
Headwaters Forest Restoration Jobs Proposal would be the foundation of 
this demand.


Public visibility by Fasters as well as press conferences are encouraged 
and will be coordinated. Ultimately, each group of fasters has the leeway 
to join in fasting with whatever style, demands, guidelines they choose.


SITE/DEMANDS COORDINATION POSSIBILITIES:

San Francisco: F.D.I.C., Debt For Nature/Savings and Loan

Santa Rosa: C.D.F., Stop approving PL harvest plans without 
sustainability plan (this is not on our primary list, but it could be 
incorporated).

Sacramento: Fish and Wildlife, ESA/Capitol, RESTORATION BILL

Los Angeles: F.D.I.C. or Fish and Wildlife

Scotia: P.L. Headquarters, Hurwitz payback taxpayers and loggers 

Eureka: Riggs' Office, RESTORATION BILL

********

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FOR PUBLICATION IN THE GOB


Below is a report of IWW activity this side of the Atlantic.  This will be the
last "UK" report as we are about to have a member based in the Irish Republic.

Members of the union met in a very sunny and hot Edinburgh on 24 June.  The
meeting was hosted by the newly chartered Stevenson College Branch.

Membership

The treasurer reported 76 members based in the UK.  Not all fully paid up
however.

Couriers Union

The union has been holding regular meetings and while membership stands at 8
there is a growing list of contacts.  The small membership has been very active
giving out hundreds of leaflets and has thousands of stickers all over London
in places where couriers congregate.  The couriers union hotline has been very
busy with calls for inofrmation, advice etc.  Letters have been coming in to
the new PO Box and the union has come to the attention of the owners with two
bogus letters being traced back to the bosses.

The union has now targeted a central London couriers firm notorious for its
practices.  For example a new member worked a twelve hour shift for five days
and then got only 75 for 60 hors work after stoppages by the company for late
deliveries etc etc.  The members are currently working out the tactics and it
further news on this front will be posted some time in the future.

The union is currently having a banner made which will be featured on pickets,
demonstrations etc.

Education Workers - Stevenson College

Members scored a big success recently despite small numbers.  College
management wanted to make a number of compulsory redundancies because of a cut
in government funding.  The "official"  unions at the college appeared to
accept this albeit with some muted protest.  The IWW brnach however decided to
put together a leaflet calling for resistance.  The leaflet invited any
employees of the college to sign up for strike action should there be any
compulsory redundancies.  Within a couple of days 50 signatures were gathered
and the union posted notices around the building.  Within a couple of days
management called the "official" unions to a meeting and announced that there
was no need for compulsory redundancies.  They commenced discussions on job
sharing, voluntary severance and other measures to avoid compulsory job losses.
 While not a complete victory the IWW activity upstaged the "do nothing"
approach of the other unions and proved that industrial unionism works!

The branch is now trying to organise action by temporary staff.  A large
minority of staff at the college are employed on very short term contracts
which finish at the end of the academic year.  The branch is writing to all
those on these contracts inviting them to turn up for work on the first day of
the new term and sit at the desk or in the office they last occupied...

The branch also took part in the Scottish Miners Gala and recruited five new
members taking Edinburgh membership up to 12 and laying the foundation for a
GMB.

Education Workers Swindon

Meetings are now being held on a regular basis is some growth of the UKs second
largest workplace branch is hoped for.

Local groups

Our Aberystwyth members are working very hard on the development of a
correspondence course on the history of industrial unionism in all its
variants.  The course will be broken down into a number of freestanding
sections, each of which will include a list of reading material.  If everything
is prepared a pilot course among current members might be run to sort out any
problems.  The group has also drafted a series of short lealflets explining the
preamble to the unions constitution. These will either be published in their
own right or be put together in an introduction pack.  The "backbone" of which
will be an introduction to the IWW.  This has already been compiled and will be
printed soon.

Groups are now up and running in the West Midlands, London and Glasgow as well
with many being involved in different forms of activity.  We are to open up
shop in Cork, southern Ireland in August so we will be truly "isles" based
rather than UK or British!

A mobilisation of the IWW is being called for 29 July in support of health
workers fighting for a decent pay increase.  1% has been offered nationally
with 2% locally in exchange for "productivity" and other cutbacks in
conditions.  The Royal College of Nursing (RCN) with 300,000 members is urging
acceptance of this while the other unions are totally opposed.  One of these
UNISON is organising the demo.  We hope to produce some lealfets etc for the
march and would really like to see an increase in our health workers membership

The meeting in Edinburgh also discussed the case of Mumia Abu Jamal and many
members expressed the desire to write letters etc.  Now that they have their
Industrial Workers with all the details this should soon bear fruit. 

The meeting also agreed to send to ballot two proposals on a revised dues
structure and a conslutation paper on a regional organising committee
constitution in order that it may be included in the November ballot of the
IWW.

The next open meeting is scheduled for 4 November 1995 in Leicester.  Wobblies
all over the world are invited to attend.

Yours in solidarity 



Kevin Brandstatter
IWW (east of the Atlantic)


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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 20:50:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: X341697 (Deke Nihilson) <deke@iww.org>
To: deke@iww.org
Subject: notes re. headwaters


planning mtg re. headwaters sept. 15th demo

planning mtg.  aug. 13 noon

laytonville CA; also, official reps.
___

one-night base camp 13 aug.; next morning da vs. chipboard l/p final solution

how many interested in participating? getting arrested?

contact Judi: 707-459-1466 
msg: 468-1660      sun. p.m.  

endorsements too


From deke@iww.org Tue Aug 15 11:41:58 1995
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From: "X341697 (Deke Nihilson)" <deke@iww.org>
To: iww-list@iww.org
cc: 73174.77@compuserve.com
Subject: Addendum to my just-mailed GEB Rept. 
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In the lately-common spirit of better late than never, I snail-mailed out
my latest GEB report yesterday, only to receive that of FW Mike D'Amore
today. And it actually had a new motion in it-- damn! Not quite used to 
that anymore...

ANYway, it contained a motion too important to sit on-- so I offer this 
addendum vote. I hereby request that the GST inform the GEB Chair of 
same, and as I understand it the Chair will then inform the rest of the 
GEB and the whole of the Union in his regular GEB Chair report to the 
monthly GOB. No, really.

The vote (pretentious drum roll, please):

MD23 (Send $1000 to the Lenny Flank Defense Fund): I vote YES

This vote will be confirmed by myself in person at the Assembly in 
Philadelphia shortly, and perhaps more importantly, in writing through 
the USPS in my next duly-filed report. Why I choose to use this medium to 
convey my vote meanwhile, despite the controversy it seems to arouse 
amongst the more technophobic elements of my peers and fellow workers, is 
small-town simple: the issue at hand is too important to fuck around 
with, to sit on, to mock or degrade with petty ego shit. I'll take any 
resultant heat directed at me for doing the right thing.

Hey, fellas, our organizer is under attack. Let's be there for him, that 
he may return the favor upon our class enemies, shall we?

In Solidarity True,
Deke Nihilson,  X341697
deke@iww.org

P.S.-- The more suspicious among our ranks may call to confirm that I vote
YES on MD23 at (415) 487-1902, Mon. - Fri. 10 a.m. to 6 p.m. Say it's a
personal call and you'll get through to me... 


   ++++ stop de execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
   ++++ if you agree copy these 3 sentences in your own sig ++++
   ++++ more info: http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm ++++

	Abolish the wage/rent/prison system! [http://iww.org] 


From deke@iww.org Wed Sep 13 15:33:28 1995
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   ++++ stop de execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
   ++++ if you agree copy these 3 sentences in your own sig ++++
   ++++ more info: http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm ++++

	Abolish the wage/rent/prison system! [http://iww.org] 

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 18:26:48 +0000
From: Fred Chase <iww@igc.apc.org>
To: General.Executive.Board@iww.org, IWW@igc.apc.org
Subject: GST Packet. Urgent Issue included

Fellow Workers,
	The following is a cover letter for a packet I'll be sticking in the 
mail in the morning, plus the resolutions from assembly which require 
your immediate action, as the cover letter explains.  I'm putting it 
out here in case someone wants to get a jump on the mails to get the 
required board action moving.

Fred

*************************************************



                 INDUSTRIAL WORKERS OF THE WORLD
                      GENERAL HEADQUARTERS
                       103 W. MICHIGAN AVE
                    YPSILANTI, MI  48197-5438
                        ph: 313-483-3548
                        fax: 313-483-4050
                     email: iww@igc.apc.org


                                                  9/13/95
Dear Board Members,

     Enclosures:  
          1. Letter from SLC GMB returning the $200 granted to them
for Mayday festivities.  I think I already told you that the Santa
Cruz branch also returned all but c. $94 of the $400 I had sent
them toward their $1000 grant and requested that the remainder of
the grant be rescinded.  I'm impressed.

          2. FW Ervin's proposed wording for a statement to be
issued from GA.  He has already agreed to a change in #3 from "we
apologize" to "we regret"  which requires some change in the
following words to make them coherent.  I suggest "We regret any
misunderstanding which led Fellow Worker Ervin or any other Union
member to think otherwise."
     On #4, if the motion to grant the remainder of the funds to FW
Ervin in a lump some has passed, it's fine.  Otherwise you might
want to remove the "forthwith" and tack "in accordance with the
policy on funding for organizing" onto the end.  The 2nd $200 is in
the mail.  That leaves $600.  His financial report and description
of the organizing drive make me far less hesitant to give it all to
him at once than did earlier statements that he wanted it for
travel to Assembly, was discouraging people from joining the Union,
and resented having to account for it.  I think some real
understanding came out of the mediation session at assembly on this
issue.  Fellow Worker Ervin seems to be sincerely interested in
building the IWW.

          3. FW Ervin's Financial Report

          4. Branch application from the FWs in St. Louis.   Yay!
All 13 signatories are in good standing.

          5. Resolutions passed by assembly.  We have a problem
here.  I think we were all so focused on the tone of the assembly;
and the resolutions seemed so innocuous, that we overlooked the
Resolution on Resolutions which appears in the back of the
constitution and which was published as a centerfold in GOB #3. 
None of the resolutions which passed at assembly were presented to
the membership through the GOB at least two months before assembly. 
None were determined by the Assembly to be of such an emergency
nature that they would effect (shouldn't that be affect?) the
operation of the union.
     Therefore, as Fellow Worker Rush pointed out today, the
Assembly did not have the authority to send them to referendum. And
since all decisions of assembly must be retified by referenda, they
are moot otherwise. They can still be sent to referendum through
other channels.  Either members could bring petitions with 15
signatures; or the Board could vote to send them to referendum. 
Time's short.  They are also required to be published in the GOB
with notification in the first GOB on or after September 30th.  So
the petition route is likely to be too long.  Looks like it's up to
you guys; and I'll need a decision by September 30th to get them in
the GOB in time.
     Somebody want to propose: "Move that all resolutions passed by
the 1995 IWW General Assembly be sent to referenda."?  If so, get
it out quick and everyone please respond immediately.

     6. List of nominees.  All have been sent notification of
whether GHQ shows them as eligible and have been requested to
accept or decline by mail asap.

     I'm supposed to have one Board member and one non-Board member
as check co-signers.  Now that FW Kroepel is on the Board, may I
suggest FW and former GST Mark Kaufmann to take his place?

     Josie has promised receipts and documents to account for the
$4,500 grant "when he finds the time".  It's going to remain an
issue in every GOB I put out until the accounting is forthcoming. 
So if anyone with influence on Josie wants to see the issue put to
rest, you might encourage him to find the time.



                           Solidarity,



                       Fred Chase x331591
                   General Secretary/Treasurer




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Date sent:        Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:14:21 -0700
From:             Jon Bekken <jbekken>
To:               iww
Subject:          assembly resolutions

Resolutions from General Assembly

(Based upon a preliminary review of my notes, I believe this
includes all substantive motions)

Send the following resolution to Pennsylvania Governor Thomas
Ridge, Judge Albert Sabo and each Justice of the Pennsylvania
Supreme Court:

Resolved: The 1995 General Assembly of the Industrial Workers of
the World, convened in Philadelphia, PA on September 2nd and 3rd,
wishes to express its grave concern over the case of death row
prisoner Mumia Abu-Jamal. Mr. Jamal was convicted of murder
thirteen years ago in a trial marked by numerous improprieties.

In addition, the Assembly is concerned that 80 percent of all death
row prisoners are African-Americans.  This Assembly calls upon the
authorities of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania to affirm Mr.
Jamal's petition for a new trial; to immediately pass a moratorium
on the death penalty in this state; and to prevent Judge Sabo, who
has proven to be biased, from hearing this case.

Offer an honorary membership in the IWW to Mumia Abu-Jamal.

Create the following committees:

(1) A committee to create a set of guidelines for the General
Executive Board to help facilitate Board meetings and functions.
Fellow Worker Semel will chair the committee.

(2) A committee to create a set of guidelines regarding the
distribution of Union funds and the system of accountability for
said funds, i.e., periodic reports, etc. The Audit Committee is
charged with convening this committee.

(Both committees are to be announced in the GOB, with an invitation
for volunteers to join them.)

Move to express solidarity with the Staley workers in their
continuing struggle, and call upon our Fellow Workers to bring a
halt to the union scabbing which is undermining their struggle.
(Copies to be sent to Illinois Federation of Labor and other
unions)

Move to have co-facilitators/chairpersons, including at least one
woman, at each General Assembly.

That all GEB members be required to summarize their GEB report in
a brief discussion section in the GOB. This discussion shall be no
more than one page and shall accompany the regular GEB ChairUs
report to the GOB. (to referendum)

The ad hoc computer committee, established at the 1995 Assembly, be
continued as an informal standing committee to continue
investigating and promoting electronic communications within the
IWW.

That the GEB be required to place no less than a sixty-day voting
life on all GEB motions. (to referendum)

Hawaii GMB to produce a revised conflict resolution proposal for
referendum vote.

Move to issue a referendum on whether the Industrial Worker should
be elected to a two-year term







































Nominations:

General Assembly site (sent to referendum)
Burlington, Vermont and Salt Lake City, Utah

General Secretary-Treasurer
Fred Chase
Deke Nihilson
(FWs Mike DUAmore and Rochelle Semel declined nomination)

General Executive Board
Gnat Blackrag (13)
Kevin Brandstatter (37 - includes 11 proxies)
Trish DUAmore (24 - includes 1 proxy)
Ray Elbourne (27 - includes 8 proxies)
Lorenzo Komboa Ervin (39 - includes 10 proxies)
Lenny Flank (23)
Mike Garcia (23)
Dennis Good (18)
Chris-Vad Hyphus (14)
Marc Janowitz (34 - includes 15 proxies)
Crouton Jones (26 - includes 10 proxies)
Dave Karoly (27 - includes 15 proxies)
Art Kazar (9 - includes 5 proxies)
Ingrid Koch (20 - includes 7 proxies)
Geoff Kroppel (5)
Heather Harmon (28)
Tom Jordan (15)
Fred Lee (15 - includes 5 proxies)
Ray Levy (17 - includes 11 proxies)
Mirabai Martin (17 - includes 1 proxy)
Bill Meyers (11)
Tai Miller (26 - includes 1 proxy)
Deke Nihilson (45 - includes 14 proxies)
Paul Pasholk (3)
Penny Pixler (15 - includes 5 proxies)
Robert Rush (22 - includes 9 proxies)
Rochelle Semel (30)
Jeff Stein (10 - includes 5 proxies)
Maria Tomchik (15 - includes 2 proxies)
Zimya Toms-Trend (7 - includes 1 proxy)
Cameron Walker (16)
Amy Westerholm (3 - includes 1 proxy)
Pete Wilcox (36 - includes 14 proxies)
Terri Williams (2 - includes 1 proxy)

Nominated, delegates present indicated they declined (though the
nominees were
 not present to do so themselves): Franklin Devore, Jenn Madsen,
Tony Roehrig
Nominated and declined: Greg Giorgio, Mike Madore, Paul Poulos,
Sharon ???
Nominated but declared ineligible: Deb Ormasky


From deke@iww.org Thu Sep 14 10:48:47 1995
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 18:26:48 +0000
From: Fred Chase <iww@igc.apc.org>
To: General.Executive.Board@iww.org, IWW@igc.apc.org
Subject: GST Packet. Urgent Issue included

Fellow Workers,
	The following is a cover letter for a packet I'll be sticking in the 
mail in the morning, plus the resolutions from assembly which require 
your immediate action, as the cover letter explains.  I'm putting it 
out here in case someone wants to get a jump on the mails to get the 
required board action moving.

Fred

*************************************************



                 INDUSTRIAL WORKERS OF THE WORLD
                      GENERAL HEADQUARTERS
                       103 W. MICHIGAN AVE
                    YPSILANTI, MI  48197-5438
                        ph: 313-483-3548
                        fax: 313-483-4050
                     email: iww@igc.apc.org


                                                  9/13/95
Dear Board Members,

     Enclosures:  

 [snip]

          5. Resolutions passed by assembly.  We have a problem
here.  I think we were all so focused on the tone of the assembly;
and the resolutions seemed so innocuous, that we overlooked the
Resolution on Resolutions which appears in the back of the
constitution and which was published as a centerfold in GOB #3. 
None of the resolutions which passed at assembly were presented to
the membership through the GOB at least two months before assembly. 
None were determined by the Assembly to be of such an emergency
nature that they would effect (shouldn't that be affect?) the
operation of the union.
     Therefore, as Fellow Worker Rush pointed out today, the
Assembly did not have the authority to send them to referendum. And
since all decisions of assembly must be retified by referenda, they
are moot otherwise. They can still be sent to referendum through
other channels.  Either members could bring petitions with 15
signatures; or the Board could vote to send them to referendum. 
Time's short.  They are also required to be published in the GOB
with notification in the first GOB on or after September 30th.  So
the petition route is likely to be too long.  Looks like it's up to
you guys; and I'll need a decision by September 30th to get them in
the GOB in time.
     Somebody want to propose: "Move that all resolutions passed by
the 1995 IWW General Assembly be sent to referenda."?  If so, get
it out quick and everyone please respond immediately.

 [snip]


                           Solidarity,



                       Fred Chase x331591
                   General Secretary/Treasurer




cc: file
               
Date sent:        Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:14:21 -0700
From:             Jon Bekken <jbekken>
To:               iww
Subject:          assembly resolutions

Resolutions from General Assembly

(Based upon a preliminary review of my notes, I believe this
includes all substantive motions)

Send the following resolution to Pennsylvania Governor Thomas
Ridge, Judge Albert Sabo and each Justice of the Pennsylvania
Supreme Court:

Resolved: The 1995 General Assembly of the Industrial Workers of
the World, convened in Philadelphia, PA on September 2nd and 3rd,
wishes to express its grave concern over the case of death row
prisoner Mumia Abu-Jamal. Mr. Jamal was convicted of murder
thirteen years ago in a trial marked by numerous improprieties.

In addition, the Assembly is concerned that 80 percent of all death
row prisoners are African-Americans.  This Assembly calls upon the
authorities of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania to affirm Mr.
Jamal's petition for a new trial; to immediately pass a moratorium
on the death penalty in this state; and to prevent Judge Sabo, who
has proven to be biased, from hearing this case.

Offer an honorary membership in the IWW to Mumia Abu-Jamal.

Create the following committees:

(1) A committee to create a set of guidelines for the General
Executive Board to help facilitate Board meetings and functions.
Fellow Worker Semel will chair the committee.

(2) A committee to create a set of guidelines regarding the
distribution of Union funds and the system of accountability for
said funds, i.e., periodic reports, etc. The Audit Committee is
charged with convening this committee.

(Both committees are to be announced in the GOB, with an invitation
for volunteers to join them.)

Move to express solidarity with the Staley workers in their
continuing struggle, and call upon our Fellow Workers to bring a
halt to the union scabbing which is undermining their struggle.
(Copies to be sent to Illinois Federation of Labor and other
unions)

Move to have co-facilitators/chairpersons, including at least one
woman, at each General Assembly.

That all GEB members be required to summarize their GEB report in
a brief discussion section in the GOB. This discussion shall be no
more than one page and shall accompany the regular GEB ChairUs
report to the GOB. (to referendum)

The ad hoc computer committee, established at the 1995 Assembly, be
continued as an informal standing committee to continue
investigating and promoting electronic communications within the
IWW.

That the GEB be required to place no less than a sixty-day voting
life on all GEB motions. (to referendum)

Hawaii GMB to produce a revised conflict resolution proposal for
referendum vote.

Move to issue a referendum on whether the Industrial Worker should
be elected to a two-year term



Nominations:

General Assembly site (sent to referendum)
Burlington, Vermont and Salt Lake City, Utah

General Secretary-Treasurer
Fred Chase
Deke Nihilson
(FWs Mike DUAmore and Rochelle Semel declined nomination)

General Executive Board
Gnat Blackrag (13)
Kevin Brandstatter (37 - includes 11 proxies)
Trish DUAmore (24 - includes 1 proxy)
Ray Elbourne (27 - includes 8 proxies)
Lorenzo Komboa Ervin (39 - includes 10 proxies)
Lenny Flank (23)
Mike Garcia (23)
Dennis Good (18)
Chris-Vad Hyphus (14)
Marc Janowitz (34 - includes 15 proxies)
Crouton Jones (26 - includes 10 proxies)
Dave Karoly (27 - includes 15 proxies)
Art Kazar (9 - includes 5 proxies)
Ingrid Koch (20 - includes 7 proxies)
Geoff Kroppel (5)
Heather Harmon (28)
Tom Jordan (15)
Fred Lee (15 - includes 5 proxies)
Ray Levy (17 - includes 11 proxies)
Mirabai Martin (17 - includes 1 proxy)
Bill Meyers (11)
Tai Miller (26 - includes 1 proxy)
Deke Nihilson (45 - includes 14 proxies)
Paul Pasholk (3)
Penny Pixler (15 - includes 5 proxies)
Robert Rush (22 - includes 9 proxies)
Rochelle Semel (30)
Jeff Stein (10 - includes 5 proxies)
Maria Tomchik (15 - includes 2 proxies)
Zimya Toms-Trend (7 - includes 1 proxy)
Cameron Walker (16)
Amy Westerholm (3 - includes 1 proxy)
Pete Wilcox (36 - includes 14 proxies)
Terri Williams (2 - includes 1 proxy)

Nominated, delegates present indicated they declined (though the
nominees were
 not present to do so themselves): Franklin Devore, Jenn Madsen,
Tony Roehrig
Nominated and declined: Greg Giorgio, Mike Madore, Paul Poulos,
Sharon ???
Nominated but declared ineligible: Deb Ormasky


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We, the undersigned members of the IWW and in good standing, affirm that
the motions of this year's Assembly (1995) shall appear on the fall
referendum ballot, as rightly intended by that body. These are as follows: 

*****

Send the following resolution to Pennsylvania Governor Thomas
Ridge, Judge Albert Sabo and each Justice of the Pennsylvania
Supreme Court:

Resolved: The 1995 General Assembly of the Industrial Workers of
the World, convened in Philadelphia, PA on September 2nd and 3rd,
wishes to express its grave concern over the case of death row
prisoner Mumia Abu-Jamal. Mr. Jamal was convicted of murder
thirteen years ago in a trial marked by numerous improprieties.

In addition, the Assembly is concerned that 80 percent of all death
row prisoners are African-Americans.  This Assembly calls upon the
authorities of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania to affirm Mr.
Jamal's petition for a new trial; to immediately pass a moratorium
on the death penalty in this state; and to prevent Judge Sabo, who
has proven to be biased, from hearing this case.

*****

Offer an honorary membership in the IWW to Mumia Abu-Jamal.

*****

Create the following committees:

(1) A committee to create a set of guidelines for the General
Executive Board to help facilitate Board meetings and functions.
Fellow Worker Semel will chair the committee.

(2) A committee to create a set of guidelines regarding the
distribution of Union funds and the system of accountability for
said funds, i.e., periodic reports, etc. The Audit Committee is
charged with convening this committee.

(Both committees are to be announced in the GOB, with an invitation
for volunteers to join them.)

*****

Move to express solidarity with the Staley workers in their
continuing struggle, and call upon our Fellow Workers to bring a
halt to the union scabbing which is undermining their struggle.
(Copies to be sent to Illinois Federation of Labor and other
unions)

*****

Move to have co-facilitators/chairpersons, including at least one
woman, at each General Assembly.

*****

That all GEB members be required to summarize their GEB report in
a brief discussion section in the GOB. This discussion shall be no
more than one page and shall accompany the regular GEB Chair's
report to the GOB. (to referendum)

*****

The ad hoc computer committee, established at the 1995 Assembly, be
continued as an informal standing committee to continue
investigating and promoting electronic communications within the
IWW.

*****

That the GEB be required to place no less than a sixty-day voting
life on all GEB motions. (to referendum)

*****

Move to issue a referendum on whether the Industrial Worker should
be elected to a two-year term

*****



Signed			Print Name		X Number	Date
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   ++++ stop de execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
   ++++ if you agree copy these 3 sentences in your own sig ++++
   ++++ more info: http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm ++++

	Abolish the wage/rent/prison system! [http://iww.org] 

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To: Deke Nihilson <x341697@iww.org>
Subject: Conflict Mediation Cmte. Proposal-- for referendum


Resolved, that the following be added to the By-Laws of the Constitution 
of the IWW:

ARTICLE XIV
Conflict Mediation Committee

Section 1. The General Assembly shall have the power to select a 
Committee of five members, to serve the Union for one year in the 
capacity of mediating conflicts as such may arise amongst members.

Section 2. This shall be known as the Conflict Mediation Committee (CMC), 
and shall not have the power to arbitrate disputes or to bind parties to 
agreements. Rather, it shall seek to find mutually-agreeable solutions to 
conflicts and thereby avoid the need for charges to be filed. This 
Article shall not supercede or abrogate Article III of these General 
By-Laws, but rather augment its effectiveness by resolving disputes and 
dissipating their divisiveness before Article III remedies need be pursued.

Section 3. It is in the best interests of the IWW to resolve disputes 
without corroding solidarity between individuals and component parts of 
the Union. Mitigating the need for the intervention of the whole of the 
Union in any particular dispute serves this interest. Therefore, 
requesting the intervention of the CMC, and participating in its 
processes shall be viewed as an act of good faith. Such participation 
shall not be compulsory; however, publicizing a dispute without first 
attempting mediation is disrespectful both of other Fellow Workers and of 
the interests of this Union and the working class. 

Section 4. All rights and duties under Article III of these By-Laws are 
otherwise preserved, and the failure of mediation to resolve a dispute is 
rightly referred thereunto. 

Section 5. The CMC shall establish its own working rules,  bearing in 
mind that the nature of successful mediation is flexibility and 
accomodation of different needs within the broader framework of this 
Constitution and By-Laws.

Section 6. CMC members shall be and remain in good standing for the time 
they so serve, and shall be recallable by majority vote of the Union in 
referendum between Assemblies. As this Committee has no enforcement or 
other binding powers, members shall not be subject to term limits.

*****End of Article XIV*****

Further, should this pass referendum, a Special Election shall be held in 
the Spring Referendum 1996 for the term expiring at the General Assembly 
of 1996.



SIGNED			PRINT NAME		X NUMBER	DATE
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   ++++ stop de execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
   ++++ if you agree copy these 3 sentences in your own sig ++++
   ++++ more info: http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm ++++

	Abolish the wage/rent/prison system! [http://iww.org] 

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 22:08:51 GMT
From: Len Flank <len.flank@node99.com>
To: iww-list@iww.org
Subject: bingo update


Well, the first round of settlement talks are oever, and they went about
the way I expected they would.  Allied Air Force (the bingo owner) is
offering to pay the back wages for all of the workers, but adamantly
refuses to drop the suit against me.  We of course rejected this offer
out of hand, but the Federales are leaning towards it.  So more talks
are scehduled for Monday (before the trial) to settle the issue of
exactly how much back pay is owed.  If the bingo bosses then offer to
pay the money and not drop the suit, the Feds will accept that
settlement (over our objections).

As far as the bingo workers go, that is not a bad deal--they will get
all of the back pay they are entitled to for the illegal actions
committed against them.  The only person it leaves hanging is me--the
suit would still be active against me, and I'd still have to appeal it
(my attorney is busy right now putting together the paperswork for the
GEB).

If the settlement happens like this, one option for us would be to file
a suit of our own for breach of contract, then offer to drop it if
Allied drops the suit against me.  But that would take $$$, which we
don't have.

It is, of course, also possible that no settlement at all would be
reached, and we would then go to trial--but I think that is unlikely
because a trial would cost Allied a LOT, and it would be worth it for
them to just pay the back pay and end it all.

So I'll let everyone know what happens on Monday . . . .







Lenny Flank
X341341


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DRAFT ONLY!!!

   ++++ stop de execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
   ++++ if you agree copy these 3 sentences in your own sig ++++
   ++++ more info: http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm ++++

	Abolish the wage/rent/prison system! [http://iww.org] 

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 02:30:10 -0700
From: X341697 <deke@iww.org>
To: deke@iww.org

Deke Motif Nihilson, X341697
GA Del. #95-33 
(tele)Communication Workers IU 560, S.F. Bay Area GMB, IWW

GEB Report #8, 19 Septmber 1995


Ways To Reach Me:
	snail-mail: c/o The Little Garden, 3004 16th St. #201, 
			San Francisco CA  94103
	e-mail: deke@iww.org
	tel.: work: (415) 487-1902 M-F 10 a.m.- 6 p.m., PST; msg. OK
	      home: (415) 648-7256

Official Correspondence Received (i.e. GEB reports and matters appertaining):
	...in addition to numerous e-mails: JD 8/14; MD 8/15; JB 9/7; ZT 9/7;
GK 9/16; GHQ 8/24 or 25 and 9/18.

*****
GEB MEMBER CODES: JB= Jon Bekken, MD= Mike D'Amore, JD= Jeff Ditz, AK= 
Art Kazar, TM= Tai Miller, DN= Deke Nihilson, ZT= Zimya' A. Toms-Trend
*****
Votes on Others' Motions:

JD9 (Officiate JB's Organizing Manual): Abstain
MD22 ($300 to Burlington Group): Yes
MD23 ($1000 to LF Defense Fund): Yes
JB22 (Revoke Funds to BPOC): No

*****
New Motions:

DN12: A GMB Charter be granted to the Fellow Workers at St. Louis, MO, USA.

DN13: Affirm that the motions of this year's Assembly shall appear on the
Fall referendum, as rightly intended by that body.

*****
Discussion:

JD9: I have heard some say that they thought the manual in question was
too heavy on ideology and too light on skillsharing. As I understand the
draft was circulated for comment by the membership, I would be very curious
to see how these concerns have been addressed. I thought it to be quite
good, likewise the Lehigh Valley manual.

MD22: I believe this already happened, but just in case... I vote yes
anyway. The Burlington Group's report was indeed a highlight of the 
Assembly, and I'm pleased and proud our union could help make it possible.

MD23: I understand this is potentially a moot point by now, as a settlement
has been reached-- again. Still, if it falls through (again), this funding
will be just as necessary to that local and I for one would like to see
them jump through as few hoops as possible in order to get the money if they
need it after all. My Yes vote stands.

JB22: I understand that this was made before amends were at the Assembly,
and would presume it will be withdrawn forthwith. But just in case there's
any malingering ambiguity...

*****
Additional Comments:

I'm still eagerly awaiting the wording on the GOB statement clarifying the
situation with FW Ervin, as we promised to do forthwith at Philadelphia.
I understand that that's supposed to come out of GHQ, and I'll be glad to so 
move as soon as the GST is able to produce it.

I'm further glad that some peace, however tentative, has been made at
Assembly this year, and only wish we could manage to resolve conflicts
more than once a year. I look forward to lending a hand in this newfound
solidarity towards turning our remarkable skills of contention back
towards where they belong-- at the ruling class, not each other!


Sincerely,

DRAFT ONLY

Deke Nihilson
X341697

written 9/19/95
printed, signed and snail-mailed 9/xx/95 e.v.

cc'ed to the usual set of suspects   *:)


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   ++++ stop de execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
   ++++ if you agree copy these 3 sentences in your own sig ++++
   ++++ more info: http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm ++++

	Abolish the wage/rent/prison system! [http://iww.org] 

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 23:42:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: X341697 (Deke Nihilson) <deke@iww.org>
To: deke@iww.org
Subject: draft GEB Special Report (#9)

Deke Motif Nihilson, X341697
GA Del. #95-33 
(Tele)Communication Workers IU 560, S.F. Bay Area GMB, IWW

GEB Special Report (#9), 25 Septmber 1995


Ways To Reach Me:
	snail-mail: c/o The Little Garden, 3004 16th St. #201, 
			San Francisco CA  94103
	e-mail: deke@iww.org
	tel.: work: (415) 487-1902 M-F 10 a.m.- 6 p.m., PST; msg. OK
	      home: (415) 648-7256

*****
New Motion:

DN14: Resolved, that the following shall be published in the GOB:

The IWW General Administration wishes to make the following clear to 
all members:

1. That Lorenzo Kom'boa Ervin was not the object of any investigation for 
improperly receiving funds.

2. That in fact, to our knowledge, he received no funds or office 
equipment from the Philadelphia GMB.

3. That we regret any misunderstanding experienced by Fellow Worker 
Ervin or any other IWW member as a result of the handling of this issue.

4. That the 1994 General Executive Board authorized $1,000 for the 
B/PoC Organizing Committee and that the Committee will be receiving 
the funds both for recruitment and organizing into the IWW in 
accordance with the policy on funding for organizing.


*****
Discussion:

DN14 is the fulfillment of a promise made to FW Ervin at the Philadelphia
General Assembly of the IWW, 1995, as an important part of a broader
attempt to resolve a series of conflicts that have festered in this
organization for over a year now. This statement was promised him by the 
GST and a majority of GEB members present at Philadelphia.

The wording is the production of GST Fred Chase, in consultation with FW
Ervin and GEB members present, and is offered here for GEB officiation to
complete the Administrative process. Upon officiation, it is to appear in
the GOB. FW Chase suggests affixing the names of the GEB members who vote
"yea" to this, in addition to his signature and seal of office, and I
for one second this notion.

I would only further suggest that if this motion for some unforseen reason
does not pass, that that also be published in the GOB, along with explanation
of votes yea or nay from GEB members. As I said, this is merely my suggestion,
one that I think will retain the integrity, good faith and accountability we
strove to achieve across the board (so to speak) at Assembly this year.

I make this special report to so move adoption of the statement above in
as timely a manner as possible, that we may complete this phase of resolution
and all get on with the work we're in this union to do.

Accordingly, I vote Yes on DN14.

Sincerely,
and In Solidarity,


Deke Nihilson
X341697




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