From freevoice@igc.apc.org Thu Sep 22 21:52:06 1994 Received: from mail.igc.apc.org by fido.wps.com (8.6.5/wps.com-hackery) id OAA24957; Thu, 22 Sep 1994 14:52:04 -0700 Received: from igc2.igc.apc.org (igc2.igc.apc.org [192.82.108.39]) by mail.igc.apc.org (8.6.9/Revision: 1.47 ) with SMTP id OAA17350 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 1994 14:51:40 -0700 Received: (from freevoice@localhost) by igc2.igc.apc.org (8.6.9/Revision: 1.3 ) id OAA13272 for deke@fido.wps.com; Thu, 22 Sep 1994 14:51:39 -0700 Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 14:51:39 -0700 From: Freevoice Message-Id: <199409222151.OAA13272@igc2.igc.apc.org> To: deke@fido.wps.com Subject: Comming to PHilly Status: OR Hey Deke, Just got a message from Matt M. re: comming to Philly when you visit. I wanted to check with you before I wrote back. Clearly anyone you want to visit is cool by us, but as I felt that some of Matt's tactics durring the Assembly were dubius and potentially destructive to the Assemblies harmony, I want to be careful that the visit does not end up being usurped or hijacked into a Love and Rage thing. Also, what would you like to do while you are here, do you want to have a cafe or talk at the A-Space, if so on what topic? Are there any groups that you would like to meet up with, etc. I'll try to make sure that at some point you get the social tour of Phildelphia (as in social question), but let me know what else. My calendar seems to say that you would be comming on the 3 or 4 of November. Is this right? From the barricades of my house, Josie From maile Mon Oct 3 07:48:42 1994 Received: from localhost by fido.wps.com (8.6.5/wps.com-hackery) id AAA21553; Mon, 3 Oct 1994 00:48:41 -0700 From: maile (Maile Pickett) Message-Id: <199410030748.AAA21553@wps.com> Subject: travel To: deke (Deke Motif Nihilson) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 00:48:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 580 Status: OR deke, maile here, I am wondering when you are going to Philidelphia. Are you going to try to go before they lose their squat? How would you like a traveling partner? I'm still not sure of the idea but I've been thinking and thinking about what directions to pursue in Santa Cruz and I really want to see what they've done in Philly- I want to see how they've pulled off such a functional squat and print shop etc... Basically I want to see if they're as cool as they made themselves out to be and if they are then I'll take notes....Hope to hear from you soon. love, maile From deke Mon Oct 3 18:02:33 1994 Received: from localhost by fido.wps.com (8.6.5/wps.com-hackery) id LAA22589; Mon, 3 Oct 1994 11:02:33 -0700 From: deke (Deke Motif Nihilson) Message-Id: <199410031802.LAA22589@wps.com> Subject: Re: travel To: maile@fido.wps.com (Maile Pickett) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 11:02:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <199410030748.AAA21553@wps.com> from "Maile Pickett" at Oct 3, 94 00:48:41 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 992 Status: OR Hi Maile,Deke here. Made the LAGMB scene this past weekend-- they really kept me movin! I dug it. They got a really good group of folks, lotsa potential... they could use some help on process, though. I'm gonna try to coord. something with Miguel along the lines of makin the S. Cruz scene to check out our notoriously FABulous process (as ever, relatively speaking). More on that later. Ah, next stop Philly. I'd *love* to go with you-- that would be immensely fabu. Um, lessee... OK, I'm looking at taking a Friday and Monday off work, and going there from 4-7 November. Like, leaving Thu. night or Fri. early a.m., and coming back late Mon. night. If I'm going with you and this won't work, I'll gladly fiddle with this schematic to make it work for both of us-- I'm not emotionally invested in this rough schedule. Meanwhile, I wanna come down to SC this weekend or next. Any serving suggestions? See ya soon! Meanwhile, I remain, as ever Yours for the Revolution, --Deke From maile Tue Oct 4 02:19:51 1994 Received: from localhost by fido.wps.com (8.6.5/wps.com-hackery) id TAA24101; Mon, 3 Oct 1994 19:19:51 -0700 From: maile (Maile Pickett) Message-Id: <199410040219.TAA24101@wps.com> Subject: Re: travel To: deke@fido.wps.com (Deke Motif Nihilson) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 19:19:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <199410031802.LAA22589@wps.com> from "Deke Motif Nihilson" at Oct 3, 94 11:02:32 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 492 Status: OR deke, wow I really really want to do this the more I think about it yet I called to get flight pricing today and its 488.00 round trip, 278.00 on Amtrak and 189.00 on the grey-scab bus. I assume you are planning on flying? Have any ideas on fundraising? November would be okay for me too as long as they still had their squat...Maybe I should quit my job and sublet my room for november...I don't know, just thinking out loud, I mean on line. Love to hear your thoughts... soli, maile From deke Tue Oct 4 05:40:43 1994 Received: from localhost by fido.wps.com (8.6.5/wps.com-hackery) id WAA24771; Mon, 3 Oct 1994 22:40:43 -0700 From: deke (Deke Motif Nihilson) Message-Id: <199410040540.WAA24771@wps.com> Subject: Re: travel To: maile@fido.wps.com (Maile Pickett) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 22:40:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <199410040219.TAA24101@wps.com> from "Maile Pickett" at Oct 3, 94 07:19:51 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 4218 Status: OR > deke, wow I really really want to do this the more I think about it yet > I called to get flight pricing today and its 488.00 round trip, 278.00 on > Amtrak and 189.00 on the grey-scab bus. I assume you are planning on Ouch! > flying? Indeed...heeheehee*:) Flappin' my lips and away I go *:)_ _ No really though, Philly said they was gonna fly me out. They quoted something like $350, mebbe they know something we don't? But either way, that means our job is halved. BTW, don't quit your Job for what's only a long weekend, unless you're looking for an excuse to quit. (Though it is a good way to, like an ex-boss of mine once said, stunned, "just go, like, anarchy!?!!"...) > Have any ideas on fundraising? November would be okay for me too Well, mebbe a coupla... (though they seem somewhat predictable...) --> 1) Mebbe Philly GMB would kick down (Though their buying my ticket means we only need to come up with one. "All for one and one for all" is how I feel about this, BTW...) --> 2) Any provocative combination of: *** the S.F. GMB (fiscally conservative, but deeply in love with wobs like us, glad to hear we've come up with other,um,resources, also have a lot of money but nothing to do with it, especially since they're in denial about losing th'office[?!] and haven't started coping on getting another one,for reasons I've too much to type but will fill you inon later... BTW my space bar doesn't even suck, it blows *:) *** the S.C. GMB (how much did y'all clear, after the final debts from the GenAsmb were dealt with?) *** My middle-of-the-month paycheck (I'm learning the hard way that the first of the month check is skinny as I am, the midmonth is where the situational fat is... I was so used to just being high off making rent for the month that I lost this perspective! No, really.) *** um, the General Administration. (psych!) But ANYway... --> 3) We'll put on a show? I wish that were more, shall-we-say, coordinatible *here* (things just haven't been the same since the Barricades proposal went down in flames 'n'things, let alone Little Mike, The Scab At The Assembly, but ANYway...), or mebbe we could hit up all the woods critters in Santa Cruz Yet Again... (where, oh where is that Third Way when ya really neeeeed it?!?) --> 4) Turning tricks? (Not really.) Selling dope? (Just kidding.) All my friends here are as broke as all my friends in S.C.... anyone else we can hit up,personally? (Miguel? Tai? Um, either of our mothers...) > as long as they still had their squat...Maybe I should quit my job and > sublet my room for november...I don't know, just thinking out loud, I > mean on line. Love to hear your thoughts... > soli, maile > My thoughts are that I'm committed to making this happen. The real score would be to get Philly to buy both of the tickets and send them *together* (since they seem to be able to get a better price on that coast than we can on ours, and we gotta fly cuz I can't take so much time off work), then we pay them back as much as we could scrounge up. They have functional *businesses* as well as a lot of GA money they will not be compelled or expelled to give back (!!! geb ain't gonna press their refusal, BTW.Remarkable, ain't it?) and we *are* going there to help them out. So,somewhere in the muck and midst of this all, *we* will get there. Together. Let's work it (mebbe attend each other's branch meetings? ours is on *Sunday* the 23rd this month, BTW) together, raw, and see what we can come up with. My suggestion for now is that you contact Philly and see if they'll front for the second ticket, and also figure out a schedule in which you can travel. (Oh-- my other suggestion is that their squat still being there unmolested is secondary. Wherever *that's* at, it will be educational enough!! In November, We Remember...) Erstwhile, mebbe we can come up with,like, a hunnert each, hit each of our branches up for like 50 each, and scrounge the difference from Philly, friends and/or, well, Coffee Night). Or something likethat. In My Ever-Humble Opinion. Drop me a line (or more *:) and lemme know what you think of all that. Meanwhile, I remain Yours for the Revolution, --Deke From maile Wed Oct 5 15:59:05 1994 Received: from localhost by fido.wps.com (8.6.5/wps.com-hackery) id IAA29361; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 08:59:04 -0700 From: maile (Maile Pickett) Message-Id: <199410051559.IAA29361@wps.com> Subject: Re: travel/$ To: deke@fido.wps.com (Deke Motif Nihilson) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 08:59:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <199410040540.WAA24771@wps.com> from "Deke Motif Nihilson" at Oct 3, 94 10:40:42 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1330 Status: OR Deke, THanks for that long brainstorm of ideas. Well here's what I've been thinking. I definately want to go with you in early November to Philly and if possible I may sublet my room, mostly so that I'd have the rent money I would otherwise be giving to the landlord. Or if this University research job I am supposedly going to be doing over the next few weeks works out maybe I'll have extra money...At any rate it seems I am abundantly ready to "go anarchy" on the job front but not so much on the house front...my housemates are just too amazing. First though I thought I'd just ask Alisa and see if she would give me a month off...no really she might just do it, we'll see. So anyway I wanted to update you on those thoughts. Lets definately shoot for NOvemeber and start working on the funds. THe cheapest flights I come up with are 401.oo round trip from SF to Philly. Josie says he had alloted one of his unemployment checks for your airfare so if you're still into the all for one outlook (: that leaves about 460.oo to come up with...I tried to ask Josie about the possibility of other monies from Philly but he said that while they have a bunch of money tied up in *things* they are very low on accessible cash flow...hmmmm... Well thats what I have for now, gotta run, talk to you soon, love, maile From deke Thu Oct 6 01:30:58 1994 Received: from localhost by fido.wps.com (8.6.5/wps.com-hackery) id SAA02236; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 18:30:57 -0700 From: deke (Deke Motif Nihilson) Message-Id: <199410060130.SAA02236@wps.com> Subject: Re: travel/$ To: maile@fido.wps.com (Maile Pickett) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 18:30:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <199410051559.IAA29361@wps.com> from "Maile Pickett" at Oct 5, 94 08:59:04 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2530 Status: O > > Deke, THanks for that long brainstorm of ideas. Well here's what I've > been thinking. I definately want to go with you in early November to > Philly and if possible I may sublet my room, But where would you live the rest of the month? (Or do I infer correctly from later in your message that you'd actually be staying in Philly most of/the whole month? Wow...) >mostly so that I'd have the > rent money I would otherwise be giving to the landlord. Or if this > University research job I am supposedly going to be doing over the next > few weeks works out maybe I'll have extra money...At any rate it seems I > am abundantly ready to "go anarchy" on the job front but not so much on > the house front...my housemates are just too amazing. Who ended uptaking Jakie's room? Two jobs at once? Gurrrrl, y'all got it goin' *on* down there. It's enough to make any sane one Go Anarchy! Do tell... (hope we can actually converse soon, BTW.Kinda busy myself, but workin' on callin' ya...) >First though I > thought I'd just ask Alisa and see if she would give me a month off...no > really she might just do it, we'll see. So anyway I wanted to update you > on those thoughts. Lets definately shoot for NOvemeber and start working > on the funds. THe cheapest flights I come up with are 401.oo round trip > from SF to Philly. Josie says he had alloted one of his unemployment > checks for your airfare so if you're still into the all for one outlook (: As ever, comrade! *:) > that > leaves about 460.oo to come up with... Well, OK. I'll have a whole paycheck to savage, but hopefully not $460 hard. I'll see what I can do on the branch, and even GA scene (No, Rrrreally!) about this Philly Trip... The climate there is probably better for fundraising than here in the shitty, Where Nobody Cares (or cares elsewhere-- til it hurts! "No thanx, I gave a shit at the office...") You know that scene! *:_} >I tried to ask Josie about the > possibility of other monies from Philly but he said that while they have > a bunch of money tied up in *things* they are very low on accessible > cash flow...hmmmm... Howbout SCGMB? > Well thats what I have for now, gotta run, talk to you soon, > love, maile Hope to see ya soon, and talk to ya sooner! Gotta get along myself... Let's figure out who/where we're gonna getthat second ticket, tho. If we're gonna go together, seems like we should get them together (makes the logistics a little easier to coordinate...) Yours for the Revolution, --Deke From freevoice@igc.apc.org Thu Oct 6 04:10:27 1994 Received: from mail.igc.apc.org by fido.wps.com (8.6.5/wps.com-hackery) id VAA02737; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 21:10:24 -0700 Received: from igc2.igc.apc.org (igc2.igc.apc.org [192.82.108.39]) by mail.igc.apc.org (8.6.9/Revision: 1.48 ) with SMTP id VAA13295; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 21:09:48 -0700 Received: (from freevoice@localhost) by igc2.igc.apc.org (8.6.9/Revision: 1.3 ) id VAA10934; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 21:09:48 -0700 Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 21:09:48 -0700 From: Freevoice Message-Id: <199410060409.VAA10934@igc2.igc.apc.org> To: deke@fido.wps.com Subject: Trip to Philly Cc: maile@fido.wps.com Status: OR Hey Deke, Just a quick note. Since you left planning to us, how about this, you can do a talk/cafe at the A space on any topic you think might be of interest (if need be choose between Queer Labor and INTERNET Resources). You can hold court at the IWW open cafe on Sat morning, and we can schedule a video night (a common A space thing) where you can show a couple of movies/video's. You can also check out the local scene etc. in between. If you want to do a video thing, let me know what you want to show. It could be serious, sublime, or silly (People have shown everything from Matewan to Russ Meyer's Faster Pussycat, Kill! Kill!) We can get the video's here for you, so you don't have to worry about set up. Solidarity for the short run anyway, Josie (from Bob) There has been interest here on you taking on Queer Labor, and as soon you can let us know the topic we will let people know. There might be a very good turn out. In Solidarity Bob From deke Thu Oct 13 18:19:34 1994 Received: from localhost by fido.wps.com (8.6.5/wps.com-hackery) id LAA11491; Thu, 13 Oct 1994 11:19:34 -0700 From: deke (Deke Motif Nihilson) Message-Id: <199410131819.LAA11491@wps.com> Subject: Philly To: maile (Maile Pickett) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 11:19:33 -0700 (PDT) Cc: deke (Deke Motif Nihilson) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 884 Status: OR I just picked up $315.00 off the wire from Josie via Bob in Philly, for th'tix. Now, it's our turn to coordinate; we should get them ASAP. The SFGMB meeting isn't 'til the 23rd-- a mere 11 days (or so) before I'll be free to go (talkin' the night of Thu. 3 nov.) (or we could leave Friday? But I'd prefer Thu. night...) OK, so money notwithstanding, that makes departure (from SFO?) coordination easy enough. But, we're returning at different times. Do you know when you wanna return? Now's the time to give it some thought, and decide... (or so it seems to me.) How do you wanna handle th'cash, meanwhile? You wanna send me whatever you got? Or get the tickets yourself (i.e. I send you the money)? Or come up here, and we can go get 'em together? I get paid (most likely) tomorrow. Do let me know how you wanna proceed from here... Yours for the Revolution, --Deke From maile Sun Oct 16 23:19:15 1994 Received: from localhost by fido.wps.com (8.6.5/wps.com-hackery) id QAA22518; Sun, 16 Oct 1994 16:19:15 -0700 From: maile (Maile Pickett) Message-Id: <199410162319.QAA22518@wps.com> Subject: philly To: deke (Deke Motif Nihilson) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 16:19:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1529 Status: OR deke, hey there! So the SCGMB gave us $100 toward airfare!! I called on Friday to make plane reservations and found tickets on American at 360.00 each. I have them on hold and have to keep putting them on hold until we go down to pick them up (Monday or Tuesday?). Here's the info: Leave: SF 11:45pm Nov. 4 arrive at Philly Int. 9:50am Nov 5 then you would come back: Nov 7 leaving Philly at 7:40pm and arriving SF 12:13 am The record codes for these tickets are as follows: Daniel Elash -SIRVOY Maile Pickett - RIUYGU Somehow she didn't give me a flight number but I'm sure I can get you that before you actually go to pick them up. The place to go is: American Air 510 O'Ferral St. (between Stockton and Grant in the Union Square area between 9 am and 5 pm.) If this is not the best location I can try to see if there are any closer by or you could call American at 1 800 433 7300. Also are the times okay on the way over and way back? Taking the redeye flight makes it a little cheaper but that 7:40 time for the way back is just what she gave me - I could try to see if they have anything later if you'd like...(I was in the midst of dealing with customers at work while doing this so maybe I didn't cover all the details thoroughly...just let me know what ya think.) So that's the info and I plan to wire you all I can manage on Monday though I still need to do my finances so I'll let you know on that. Oh, what is the address of the Western Union I should wire the money to? Talk to you soon, soli, maile From deke Mon Oct 17 03:01:40 1994 Received: from localhost by fido.wps.com (8.6.5/wps.com-hackery) id UAA23015; Sun, 16 Oct 1994 20:01:40 -0700 From: deke (Deke Motif Nihilson) Message-Id: <199410170301.UAA23015@wps.com> Subject: Re: philly To: maile@fido.wps.com (Maile Pickett) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 20:01:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <199410162319.QAA22518@wps.com> from "Maile Pickett" at Oct 16, 94 04:19:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1886 Status: O > > deke, hey there! So the SCGMB gave us $100 toward airfare!! I called on > Friday to make plane reservations and found tickets on American at 360.00 > each. I have them on hold and have to keep putting them on hold until we > go down to pick them up (Monday or Tuesday?). Here's the info: Wow, cool! Rad city. Here we go... > If this is not the best location I can try to see if there are any closer > by or you could call American at 1 800 433 7300. Also are the times okay > on the way over and way back? Taking the redeye flight makes it a little > cheaper but that 7:40 time for the way back is just what she gave me - I > could try to see if they have anything later if you'd like...(I was in All that is just fine. I'll go down there as soon as I get the money from you. By my calculations, if you can kick down $170 and SC a hunnert, that leaves the gap (philly money included in the count) of $135, and I can cover that, no problem. With my name on one of the tix like it is on my ID, that should be no problem. Also, I don't think which office of Western Union matters so much (it's an anywhere-to-anywhere kinda thing), beyond the particular cities involved. If it does, I'll be picking it up on the 2000 block of Mission St (at 16th in SF). What matters more is that my legal name be given as recipient, and that I know how much I'm expecting to pick up. That'll be important to know... (the other things are *your* name, and phone, and city wired from, but I think I got all that down...) > the midst of dealing with customers at work while doing this so maybe I > didn't cover all the details thoroughly...just let me know what ya think.) At work, eh? *Nize* to know... Good Job, Maile! *:) Can't wait to see ya, I Miss Ya, but am keeping busy and will fill you in when we can interact. Meanwhile I remain Yours for the Revolution, --Deke